aus inski The Master of Screen Depravity Speaks cot Klaus Kinski wears the Labo ‘notorious well, As farous fo his afscreen antics the has for tn tance, the unfortunate habit of telering ta many of his cirectors "eshotes") a he for his ansereen perior mances, the Gerrtan-bom actor hin made ‘over 175 filme including Venom, Nos dus Verne's Rocket ta the Moon, The Wrath af God, For A Few De ‘Greus.of Fear, Schiza, Woyzeck, Android and, of course, Filzcaraldn—a ‘much chronicled production which once ‘again found him working withpined agains ‘rector Werner Herzog. ("Vou want 10 slrect me!" he once railed a the fnmaker, "You're a doar dvector”) Thefathe of actress Nastaisia Kins, Klas naw lives in Calfenia. The following inter ew wae done inbetween burteof hyper tity on Kinsk's paras he wound derwn his mt Science Feta fi (rkdro) and began dubbing the American print of Fitzcarald, is not forthe squeamish a folks wher shusderatiioayrcratic behavior. Fangoria: How do you prepare Klaus Kinski: | don't.do ypica Fang Ok, Haw do you prepare fora movie? Kina don't. don’t even run through my lives. kat of what ido cares rom hor lect along with my disector. People akwaye say that you cannot change the Bible and you cannet change Shakespeare, But me! | hays change things, [have to: Lam ike that Fang: Have you ever worked witha genius? Kinki: Waupling) Words. Wards. teday block meanings. Words are lasing thelr value these days. People con® communicate wnat they mean. Ifsemeane tells me “Ths cee penis,” what does that mean This hat thi cofee is genius, then whit does “genius” mean anymore? | don’t believe In words anymore. "Hlawe acake and si [have a coke and it hurts my stomach become sick Fang: Why co you always play villins Ales: ha refavectlo ofthe oes ve done, you'd be asking ene vwhy | always played heroes. Ws justa matterof timing and money, | dontthink too mueh about Fang: But you have done quite afew ina anypical rormoviest No, Horrible maviest Yeu. When the maney wat good: Fangs Do you corsider yaursed typecast ‘si: People try 10 pigeonhole me. In Cer anya very stupid’ country—crites toy ta By Ed Naha iE Kinski with tsabeile Adjant te Herzoa's Nosferam. label me, But I elude them many toles because | didn't wart The waylam Fang: How da you decide which mavie to Kinski: Circumstances vary. Sometimes, i's ‘Who's goting paid morer” "Whe has t work longer ets funny. “Ifyoudon tgve fe thi and this TE say F*CK YOU, YOR SHITHEAD." | realy don’t warry about any ofthis, Mostly, I dont care. re ess about acting now stared? cared Hess oF more, R's aysbeenthe same. I was daing amore That was relly bad, | avaysroalsed that had to play my role as good as possible when the camera was on me. The ict that the mie was tal shit id not ether me. For example, let's say that there's a hand that is used to playing the violin excell. Le’s say that haned belongs to the world's oli Bi, we he rind isl ‘outed work Someane tells hi “Idan t have a jb for 8 bat 1d have a jal for samcone who is willing 0 cary outtrash, The violist takesthe js. He hasto do his ew job well ar else he won't get paid. He won eat. although his hands forced 1a «arr gacinage, that aeso'tdieinsh the sil tf the hand Fang Does t ever bother you that you've never been inbox office mt Kinski No, because that is ot important. I hadivt relused “Ken Russell, Felli ancd Spielberg and made their movies whenthey asked me, my life would be ao dilerert fot my faut that | ateepted one movie and to be Iypecas. Thon, I stared playing hile. as turned dawn another. Ion tsee any pontin mst doing my jab, ee it well | Kill people cetending mse, ether Beat in. mosis. Fang: Suppose a producer walked into this People waned seeing me in killer movies raom right now and said "Klaus, 1 have $15 and they say "We have a murderer inthis lion and movie! Get Kinski?” Fd sgn alle piece of Kinskl: say ve it to me, neath, please [paper and find out later that reigned! tos Fangs “Klaus, | fave $15 milan ta finance Fave ill movies, read the contracts | worked that way because ia't pay onthe sireet dowsntcare what ho: The point to steal somethin Foralongpenad aitime your attitude charged? | noticed that everyone was doing ve fecept forme because Iwasthe on ot caring. So, I tummed around, looked at Vet lott Germany ard sid "Fc Yout the silly movies made were my faut ‘wasn really ful. Kowa jus thew |, ne | made ot where | made. ever any movie you'd keto make ileal role bet whi | wouldn't care what | played. iong a he gave me the entire §15 milion, ‘These it ane role Id like to play. There are ‘many ane there are none. Ivo always adit What would are. ted To being a prostitute U sell myself for money. Idan’ have tose nyse upon the otalluntil_ sereen 35 Napoleon to feel satisfied about ry well moe: you pay mea lotef money, il be i.do you consider yourwors role Kinski: Who cam say! Somenne wanted ta rmalkea mae with me as Adal! Hier, once Iewsakabout 10 years ago, Onginaly, thispeo- Buttong with this Pekona m iy} Give me my money! we movie, but can of "Adal ler” Vaid and walked out. eed meh | 3 that | don't da it because would have been bet ‘adel! Hider. | could ave deli speeches a lat beter. . that’s for cera Fang: You've done a lot of fil movies in your career, Movies lke Circus Vere, Mangus De Sade Dr, Matuse: k you. Fang: Do you ieel any affinity towards that type of meviet Kinski: None whaisoever, Some 1 do because ofthe cory. Some I do because of the money, Some I do because afthe dee Fang: Would you ever like to dire Kineki: No. I've been directin years. [dart have to prave tothe weld that Candirect movie. Dieecingis madness. The ‘only good thingabout tis that youre really bsessed with movies youl be a great direc tor. Working witha great director is wonder ful for an actor because It means thet you're at forced to take the advice af a ih Fang: Oo you think mos direc Kinski; Some, Natall, Aran act, have the choice of working with whom you please. You try todo the best you can, Even ‘when you're on ampoule with areal diet fora Girectorand the mavie isa real pain inthe as thetime because, dest ine is shit, you're sill making more money than oral people do, Fang: How do you react when yousteponto the et ofa maw and realize that i's real dog? Kinski: | try to burn the studio down, Hels heh, Just kicking, There's no visual reaction bout you cemtainiy feel t deep don inside, Sometimes you try to help the move: 3s ‘ch as you can. Bulthat never workswhen you're warking swith an arrogant ditector Someone you cannot talk to. TTworked on 2 movie in England recently that was impossble. Everything the director ssid was wrong, would, "Look, show you that it cannot week thal way.” He ‘would listen, teouldn help mysell "Fe yout” Isay. How can you gel caught up ina ‘movie when you wind up fighting for every seve Ey shot? What's the point? Hom Can yauargue withsomeone who alwayshas tobe right Even you can prove i hi tal he i not right? Fang:Areyou asciicutto work withaspe plesayi Kinski Me? No. Look, t'vebeenactingalong, time, You just know some things after & while. Youcan' always explain thera to peo ple, You'll see thangs about the lighting You'll notice how your body is being posi toned, If is being positioned wrong, youll ask "What are you doing this fr?” I no one ppaysartention, you lsay "De you ke my as in the middle of your scene? I you fice that leabelle Adjaci keeps Kinoki's Dracula by her bedside tll the coming of the mornieg Ugh.in New Warld's production af Androld, Kinskf's beeps the tls character's hands fll with his mech. New World ix alse the \dintfeator for Fizcarrald, the ltewt collaboration between Kinski wad director Werner Herzog. Fido: © wmznewnonio Ish wy et you Jat tography ve goon in traublo at times because Fi set how a dieoctoris ruining amoviewnd FI tay to make itbetter. Fang: One of your latest ims, izcarraldrs already something ofa legen, Kinskis Yeah, they made a legend aut oft, Ws range to see how a legend grows. Fang: How il this ane grow? Kinski: Werner Herzog, invents his own legends ta make himeelflokimeresting. He was writing down nates the enti ene he was shooting the film. Hie had a notebook with him, always, It took him longer io wnte his ledger than tid toi the mavie. Every three minutes, he'd be af seribbling He was fxintingtinier han the print yourind inthe k Bie, Brave! You can print smaller than the Bible He would send these: letters back pewspapers in Germany, like some explorer describing the conquest of the Noah Pole ‘This memning, Kinski terapts me.» but | resi I cannot give up!” That vor of shit “1 have the feeling that Kind is erie of ne ing med ‘OF course | was tered of being filmed! The cameraman didn’t know anythingabout lighting and hal the creue didnt understand the movie. Fang: Was fling in the Amazon june as rough as Herzog states? Vins We made # rough, The jungle i ie sell A thousand times more ave than anything you've ever soon. We did't go there to be a part of We invaded a, We shaved the jungle and made a sinking carp in the mile of it. Radios baring. I was cdsgasing. Herzog was mostimterestedinshowingthe word that he could pull a230tanstipevera ‘mountain, That's the plat of the movie, ‘would say thins ke "You are stupa This {ask stupid! Uehat are you tying o prover American movie makers would use a small ‘modelsbipthatwouldduplicatethefllseale ship. You'd save time. You'd save money. He sid, “No. I want to show the world that Lean do what nobody has everdone, I say to that, “F*ck that asshole.” "The zeal Fitzcaralde's ship was ony 35 tons, He had itdsmantied and cared across the jungle, Herzog wanted ta outdo the eal Fizcarmad, Thats crazy Fang: Did Herzog's behavior strike you 2 being particulary ode? Kinski: No. Herzog's ahways been like that He did range things wher we were fing Aguire 12 years ago. He warted us to do Suieidal things, But he did't court one. | rout’ get repped like the ete ‘We were suppoied ta go dover the jungle rapids in ara The local natives were saying, ‘You'll diet You can't do that!" Herzog dismissed them. He was in 2 motoebaat. | wwas-onthe darned af with over a0 pounds af armor on, If | had fallen into the water, | wouldn't have been able 10 Swen, The tat fan inioa tee, We were in water up tour Waits | started cuting my armor of Hesog tole me to stop. To keep ito. | yelled back ck your” Hie did't cate about me. He fled the entre scene, wah me cursing at him and cusing «a my armor. Later he playedthna one scene Germany before the movie pened. He was already creating legend: years ago, Met thin.a mare, fs od, will ceate its own Begend ance it pens. Fang: Do you dislike Herzog? Kinski: No. Fes a highly tlerned guy. He does very good movies and he's not the sort @f peson who always talks in bullshit, He does many, many things ght. But he's ako sick. Obsessed. He wants to make history not mavies. Anyane who wants to make history is stupid Fang: Whycid yousdoa movie ike Anco! Wingki: thought a wasa clever ile mate. 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