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PC Buyer's Guide II: Extreme, High-End, Mid-Range, Budget, and Entry Level Systems

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A PC Buyer’s Guide that is everything to everyone is simply not possible. This is a simple guide to putting together a
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Section I - Complete Gaming System
Extreme Systems
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 & ASUS Striker II Formula ~ $2199
Crucial PC2-6400 DDR2-800 4GB (2X2GB) ~ $225
Dual MSI 9800GTX ~ $990
or MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
Western Digital Raptor 150GB ~ $276
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB 32MB for Storage ~ $135
LG or Samsung SATA 20X DVD Rewriter ~ $42
SilverStone Zeus ST75ZF 750W ~ $199
Cooler Master Stacker 832 W/Side Window ~ $368
Total ~ $4XXX
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 & ASUS Rampage Formula ~ $2159
MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
or GeCube HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $749
or PowerColor HD3870 X2 1GB ~ $659
SilverStone Zeus ST75ZF 750W ~ $199
Total ~ $4XXX
High-End Systems
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 or E8400 & Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 ~ $948/$819
or Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 & Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 ~ $?
or Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 & Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 ~ $900
MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
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Enhance ENP-5150GH 500W ~ $125
Total ~ $3XXX
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 & Gigabyte GA-EX38-DS4 ~ $680
or AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F
MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB 32MB ~ $135
Cooler Master Centurion 5 ~ $69
Total ~ $2XXX
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 & MSI P35 NEO2-FR ~ $490
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 4GB (2X2GB) ~ $130
MSI 9800GX2 1GB ~ $899
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 500GB 32MB ~ $135
Total ~ $19XX
Mid-Range Systems
MSI 9800GTX ~ $495 (need big casing)
or Leadtek 8800GTS 512 ~ $399
WD Caviar SE 320GB SATA ~ $100
Total ~ $16XX
Xpertvision 8800GT HDMI 512MB Sonic ~ $369
or Xpertvision 8800GT HDMI 512MB ~ $329
or PowerColor HD3870 PCS 512M DDR4 @ $309
or PowerColor HD3870 512MB DDR3 ~ $249
Andyson AD-500 500W ~ $89
Total ~ $12XX
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 & Abit IP35-E ~ $430
Total ~ $11XX
Total ~ $10XX
Xpertvision 9600GT Sonic ~ $279
or Xpertvision 9600GT ~ $199
or ASUS HD3850 512MB DDR3 ~ $199
Total ~ $9XX
Budget Systems
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ & MSI K9A2 CF-F ~ $290
ASUS HD3850 256MB DDR3 ~ $179
CoolerMaster Extreme 460W ~ $63
Total ~ $8XX
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ & Palit N68S ~ $185
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 (2X1GB) ~ $56
Xpertvision 8600GT 256MB DDR3 ~ $129
CoolerMaster Extreme 460W ~ $63
Total ~ $6XX
Entry Level Systems
Sempron 64 3000+ & Biostar NF61V ~ $128
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 1GB ~ $28
AOpen 350W ~ $47
Casing ~ $40
Total ~ $3XX
Sempron 64 3000+ & Biostar NF61V ~ $128
Kingston ValueRam PC2-5300 DDR2-667 512MB ~ $20
AOpen 350W ~ $47
Casing ~ $40
Total ~ $3XX :s22:
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BO=Rev E3
SDA3100AIO3BA – 90nm Paris
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Athlon 64 Revision E: Unofficial DDR500 Support

Q3'05 AMD Roadmap; DDR2 and New Sockets for AMD

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AMD Athlon X2 3800+ and Athlon 3800+ Review

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DFI LANParty UT nForce4 SLI-DR Expert

http://www.dfi.com.tw/press/press_he...90.jsp&SITE=US
ASUS A8N32 SLI Deluxe - nForce 4 SLI X16 Unleashed

http://hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=739
MSI K8N Diamond Plus nForce4 SLI X16

http://www.msi.com.tw/html/newsrelea...K8NDiamond.htm
nForce4 SLI Roundup: Painful and Rewarding

nForce4 Ultra Roundup: Charting the Mainstream

Memory
1GB DIMMs: FAST 2GB DDR Kits from Corsair, Gigaram, and OCZ
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2560
Corsair TwinX2048-4400 PRO PC4400 DDR Memory
http://www.pcstats.com/artvnl.cfm?articleID=1862
OCZ PC4000 2x1024MB EB Platinum Edition

http://www.3dxtreme.net/index.php?id=oczebpc4000p1
Crucial PC4000 Ballistix Tracer 2GB

http://www.benscustomcases.com/index...1742&Itemid=40
Corsair TWINX2048-3500LLPRO 2GB Kit

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/...00LL/index.htm
Corsair TWINX2048-4000PT 2GB kit

http://www.corsair.com/corsair/news.html
2x1GB/1x1GB OC Database
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=67762
Patriot Memory PDC1G5600ELK PC5600 DDR Memory

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1846
OCZ PC4800 Dual Channel Platinum Limited Edition Memory

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...id=1810&page=1
Corsair TWINX1024-4400C25
G.SKILL F1-4400DSU2-1GBFC PC4400

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/GSkill/4400-1GBFC
OCZ Gold 3500 Gamer eXtreme 1GB Kit

http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/m...xtreme_01.html
Kingston HyperX, Crucial Ballistix and Corsair XMS Expert 1GB Kit
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=707
Value 512MB DDR400 CAS 2.5 Memory Shootout: Corsair Vs OCZ

http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?o...tid=181&page=1
Value RAM Roundup: Computing On a Budget

adrianlee 24-08-2005 11:37 AM
Graphics Card
Oblivion CPU Performance

Oblivion Athlon 64 CPU Performance
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...u_performance/
Oblivion GPU Performance

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2746
ATI Radeon X1900XT and XTX Reviews

ATI Radeon X1900GT Reviews

Radeon X1800 GTO Reviews

7600 Series Reviews

RV560 and RV570 Info

Contemporary CPUs and New Games: No Way to Delusions!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...cpu-games.html
Games against CPUs. Part II

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...pu-games2.html
GeForce 7800GTX Performance with Athlon 64

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...0_gtx_scaling/
Call of Duty 2 High-end Graphics Shootout
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ce_ati_nvidia/
3D Performance with Call of Duty 2: Mainstream Cards
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ange_graphics/
Quake 4 High-end Graphics Shootout
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/quak...d_performance/
3D Performance with Quake 4: Part 2 Mainstream Cards
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/quak...ce/default.asp
3D Performance with F.E.A.R. Part 1: Mainstream Cards
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/fear...ce_mainstream/
Battlefield 2 GPU Performance Analysis
Quake 4 CPU Shootout: Intel vs. AMD
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/quak...u_performance/
F.E.A.R. CPU Shootout: AMD vs. Intel
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/fear_cpu_performance/
Desktop Graphics Card Comparison Guide Rev. 10!

http://www.rojakpot.com/showarticle....rtno=88&pgno=0
Tom's VGA Charts VIII: PCI Express Winter 2005

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/02/vga_charts_viii/
Tom's VGA Charts IV: AGP Graphics Cards
http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.c...004/index.html
Tom's VGA Charts V: PCI Express Graphics Cards

http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.c...222/index.html
Tom's VGA Charts VI: PCI Express Update Summer 2005

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...524/index.html
The Fastest Graphics Cards of 2004: Ultimate Testing of 27 GPUs

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...04-27gpu2.html
The Fastest Graphics Cards of Summer 2005: Ultimate Testing of 17 GPUs

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...005-17gpu.html
7800 GTX Extreme Edition Head-to-Head

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...7800gtx/1.html
Leadtek WinFast PX7800 TDH MyVIVO Extreme vs ASUS Extreme N7800 GTX TOP
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...704&cid=3&pg=1
XFX 7800GTX OverClocked Edition Review

http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=2825
SAPPHIRE Radeon X800 GTO²

GeForce 7800 GTX Performance with Athlon 64

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...0_gtx_scaling/
F.E.A.R. GPU Performance Tests: Setting a New Standard

3D Performance with F.E.A.R. Part 1: Mainstream Cards

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ce_mainstream/
Quake 4 High-end Graphics Shootout

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...d_performance/
GPU Database
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/
Hard Disk
Western Digital Raptor WD740GD

http://www.storagereview.com/article...WD740GD_1.html
Western Digital Raptor WD360GD

http://www.storagereview.com/article...WD360GD_1.html
Seagate's 7200.9
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2559
Western Digital Caviar WD2500KS

http://www.storagereview.com/article...D2500KS_1.html
Western Digital Caviar WD3200JD

http://www.storagereview.com/article...D3200JD_1.html
Hitachi's Deskstar 7K500 hard drive

Western Digital's Caviar SE16 hard drive

DVD Player
Plextor PX-130A
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Revi...rticleId=15285
Plextor PX-716SA
Pioneer DVR-110D fw1.17

Plextor PX-716AL
BenQ DW1640
BenQ DW1625
DVD Burners Roundup

adrianlee 24-08-2005 11:37 AM
Power Supply
Which Power supply?

http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/Power_Supply_Unit
ATX Power Supply Units Roundup. Part IV

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth.../atx-psu4.html
ATX Power Supply Units Roundup: 9 Powerful Models Tested

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth...u-roundup.html
PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/produc...php?show=TC1KW
Enermax Galaxy 1,000 Watt PSU

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
OCZ 1,100 Watts Power Supply Prototype

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/186
PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 850 ETX (SSI)

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/about/whatnew_850_ETX.htm
PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 510 Express / SLI

http://www.pcpowercooling.com/produc...hp?show=T51SLI
OCZ PowerStream Power Supply

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...m_power_supply
OCZ PowerStream Power Supply, 600W/520W, SLI Ready

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...ply-sli_ready_
Casing
adrianlee 24-08-2005 11:37 AM
Heatsink-Fan
AMD Athlon 64/FX and Intel Pentium 4
Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
Zalman CNPS7700Cu
Thermalright XP-90
Thermalright XP-90C
Thermalright XP-120
Thermalright Copper Heatsink SLK-948U
Coolermaster Hyper6
Universal 4 in 1 solution, Intel LGA775. P4 and AMD K7, K8
Thermaltake Tower 112
Thermaltake Silent Tower
AMD Opteron and Athlon 64 / Athlon 64 FX / Sempron Socket 754
Thermaltake Silent Boost K8
AMD Athlon XP up to 3400+ & AMD Sempron up to 2800+
Thermaltake Silent Boost K7 A1889-01 Ball Bearing
Thermaltake Silent Boost K7 A1889 Hydro Wave Bearing
AMD Athlon 64, AMD Athlon XP and Intel Pentium 4
ZALMAN CNPS7000A
Intel Pentium 4 Heatsink Roundup
Intel Pentium 4 Heatsink Roundup
The LCD Buyers Guide
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=71226
Monitor Technology Guide
http://www.necdisplay.com/support/cs...m#introduction
justin_ 24-08-2005 01:05 PM
Hope it's safe to reply now :s13:
anyway why never consider the ASUS Extreme for the Extreme Systems? Though it's durability is questionable.
jt_aus 24-08-2005 01:18 PM
How about an extreme system option of an Asetek Lightspeed or some other kind of phase change cooling? Maybe you
could include an overclockers extreme system.
PS: I've got the MSI K8N Diamond with TWINX1024-4400C25 (2GB, 4x512) and I can't get them to run above
250MHz/DDR500. Even at 4-4-4-8 timings. Also, the mainboard BIOS (which is the latest from MSI) doesn't seem to
have an CPU:RAM ratio setting. :s11:
Well done by the way, I don't know how you do it. :)
adrianlee 24-08-2005 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justin_
Hope it's safe to reply now :s13:
anyway why never consider the ASUS Extreme for the Extreme Systems? Though it's durability is questionable.
Mun mun lai :D ASUS Extreme N7800GTX TOP/2DHTV. Give me price and I will put it up
I am waiting to include this one :)
adrianlee 24-08-2005 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jt_aus
How about an extreme system option of an Asetek Lightspeed or some other kind of phase change cooling? Maybe
you could include an overclockers extreme system.
Go to review sites. Not Buyer's Guide
This one good
Quote:
Originally Posted by jt_aus
PS: I've got the MSI K8N Diamond with TWINX1024-4400C25 (2GB, 4x512) and I can't get them to run above
250MHz/DDR500. Even at 4-4-4-8 timings. Also, the mainboard BIOS (which is the latest from MSI) doesn't seem to
have an CPU:RAM ratio setting. :s11:
Well done by the way, I don't know how you do it. :)
I would get 2 X 1GB :D
o0KelviN0o 24-08-2005 01:47 PM
y no X2? :D
adrianlee 24-08-2005 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by o0KelviN0o
y no X2? :D
I will include dual core systems after editing the present guide
jt_aus 24-08-2005 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adrianlee
I would get 2 X 1GB :D
I thought about it but there seems to be no performance 1GB RAM around, the only Corsair TWINX2048 (2GB) are
PC3200 DDR400. Anyway, I thought 1024MB sticks were even harder to overclock than 512MBs? :s11:
eventhorizon 24-08-2005 09:55 PM
Nice buyer's guide... Care to include X2, Pentium D or Pentium Extreme Edition (PEE)?
eventhorizon 24-08-2005 10:18 PM
After reading again huh, i find tt i see less info leh...
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