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CenterofGravity(COG)ShiftloadCOG
ShiftCOG
Center of Gravity (COG) is a load of the most important problems in reservice (marine
construction,including:lifing,loadout...).
TohelpAEunderstandthiskindofload,topicprovidesinformationaesomebasicknowledgeof
theauthors,ifthereissomethingwronglookforwardtotheadditionofACE,asfollows:
1 / In the process of lifting and loadout, the COG structure will no longer determine the initial
position(COGcangetfromWeightControlReport,orSacs),whichwilldeviateaparagraphina
numberofproblemshavetodo,isoftentakenbysegmentdeviation1m(chidetailsseeattached
picture)comparedtotheinitialposition
2 / When structural analysis software Sacs, Because SACS can only solve the problem in a
specificlocationthatdoesnotdescribethewholeprocessofliftingastranslationThetransferor
thetexture.
To describe realistically, staff design must include COG deviation clearance a couple of different
dimensions (torque pair will create a structural shift torque) Sacs in software called load shift
COG
3 / summary is in fact COG construction cranes shifted during installation is correct and the
designproblemofliftingthedesignermustmentionthiscaseshift
HowtoTell?
WithSacsanalysis,itistheshifttorquepairCOG
COGshiftassumptionabouteachpointpadeye1m
pairwillcalculatethetorque,whichcreatesmovement.
Figure1:Surface,thecalculatedparametersCOGshiftFigure2:View3Dlifting,torquecaused
EnteringCOGshift(shiftthefocus)inSacs.

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In DNV you see the doctor Rule academic guidance that instead of COG shift load calculation is
replacedbyafactorofabout1:05ormoreforvolumeisok(asquotedphotospage16.Chapter
3).Well,thatturnedouttocalculateliftingidletoo,justlikefactorinitwithoutyouconsiderCOG
shiftloadforaheadache?Physiciansanddoctorshaveadvisedhoangtuaddanything?
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The doctor fried to all parties to this ri http://offshorevn.com/showthread.php?447Dieukien

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Really what you do for this shift COG machinery under very carefully, but also do not
understand. The problem is that currently you do jobrelated analysis Lifting and met a guy at
ParksonWorleyinsisteditnotbecalculatedinthesameCOGshiftloadare"coefficientof1.1to
mentiontheinaccuracyoftheheart"(brotherofthefather'swordsverbatimtranslationthereof).
InthesecondtopicthatdoctorsBigcrabmentionyousawenthusiasticdiscussionbutundecided.
The question is when to shift load calculation COG? Physicians do have some information about
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OriginallyPostedbyADATA

ReallywhatyoudoforthisshiftCOGmachineryunderverycarefully,butalsodonotunderstand.
The problem is that currently you do jobrelated analysis Lifting and met a guy at Parkson Worley
insisted it not be calculated in the same COG shift load are "coefficient of 1.1 to mention the
inaccuracyoftheheart"(brotherofthefather'swordsverbatimtranslationthereof).
InthesecondtopicthatdoctorsBigcrabmentionyousawenthusiasticdiscussionbutundecided.
ThequestioniswhentoshiftloadcalculationCOG?Physiciansdohavesomeinformationaboutthis
item,onlyformeto.

Thedocument,completethenormativestandardsthatthen,thecontroversialdoctorandboring,
so the doctor is important in this case how? Having accepted the plan of the guy in WP are not
doctors?CA'spartyandtheiruncleisyouropiniononthismatterdoesnot?
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Thedocument,completethenormativestandardsthatthen,thecontroversialdoctorandboring,so
thedoctorisimportantinthiscasehow?HavingacceptedtheplanoftheguyinWParenotdoctors?
CA'spartyandtheiruncleisyouropiniononthismatterdoesnot?

Em, I still require COG shift load, because under Rule says DNV is replaced by a coefficient of
1:05ormore,knowinghowmuch?Isgreaterthan1.1but1.9isgreaterthan1:051:05!But also
fromDNVrulesthatcanbeunderstoodasacertainextentcanbeacceptedinlieuCOGshiftload
factor by weight. And for understanding the problem COG shift should also concave pump new
playersthankstothedoctorsherejusttohelp.
P / S: Job you are doing the construction phase and installation, and the document is Lifting
analysisofcontractorinstallationofmarine(seainstallationcontractorshiredhimasWPreport/
analysis). And if you say YES a release, the marine installation contractor carrying out lifting
cranepulledthroughtheblisteringCA.not
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ThustheproblemofCOGshiftfinished.
Switch to the problem of selection based on internal resources sling calculated from analysis
softwareSacsorequivalent
AEthinkingwhenusedinacodehoistingsling04,forreasonsthatthecontractor'sproposeduse
ofcapacityat04differentsling,type....
Forexample:
1/verticalforceanalysisinsling1is70MT,70MTchooseSlingthereiscapacityat
2/verticalforceanalysisinsling2is80MT,80MTchooseSlingwithcapacityatthe
3/verticalforceanalysisofthesling3is50MT,60MTchooseSlingwithcapacityatthe
4/verticalforceanalysisinsling4is90MT,selectSlingthereiscapacityat100MT

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AEthinkingwhenusedinacodehoistingsling04,foranyreasonthatthecontractor'sproposeduse
ofcapacityat04differentsling,type....
Forexample:
1/verticalforceanalysisinsling1is70MT,70MTchooseSlingthereiscapacityat
2/verticalforceanalysisinsling2is80MT,80MTchooseSlingwithcapacityatthe
3/verticalforceanalysisinsling3is50MT,60MTchooseSlingwithcapacityatthe
4/Resourceslongitudinalanalysisofthesling4is90MT,selectSlingwith100MTcapacityatthe

Inprinciple,itcanbeok,
however it was noted with the layout sling, although the same length but different diameters
sling==>Lengthcraneslingonvariousdentalcode
, for example, in the diagram by 3D cad software or illustrations without careful ae leave us a
linelengthofeachline,whentherealitywilllagofafewmm,whereastheworkoftheslingand
difficulttoachieve.
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CollectalotofAEcommentinthetopiconfacebook:LongNguyenTu:Asyouknow,thisfocus
shift caused by its initial design parameters without the kind of equipment that is only
approximatevolumeloadofdevicetypestomodeltheproblem.Avoidthelattercasebacktothe
model, people shift the focus by shifting the focus of 2mx2m square edge. The latter compares
withWCRifstructuralfocusinthissquareisnottorunthetexturetoo.TuanLuuIthinkyouare
abitconfusedhere:1 / As you wrote above, I understand that when lifting the two mismatches
hook 1m (case 2 crane hooks) or wire cable design error is 1m (1 case crane hook), and the
loadout, the displacement of the knee is 1m. With cases like this will have a serious accident
during the construction of tomorrow we'll be on the front page of all the newspapers
immediately. 2 / I know roughly like this: the focus of structural is fixed (when taken at the
originofthestructure),weightliftingofmaterialmustbeconstant.Inthestructuralsoftwarewe
can not describe all the components of the structure (especially topside) so there is uncertainty
about the focus of the structural weight. The focus may actually be located somewhere around
the core theory (by our count) so to compensate for this bias is said to COG shift. 1m or 2m
longershift,squareorroundshapeisprescribed.WhenadditionalloadCOGshiftmustbebased
on the principle does not change the actual weight of structures should we put on the pair of
torque, torque value pairs is how much depends on how many meters and COG shift the weight
ofthestructureismuch3/actualdesignT&I,theCOGShiftcalculatedforliftingandlunching
alone,andloadoutwilltakethecase"lossofsupport"(withfewinvestorsrequireCOGshift)Ngo
VanWin : COG landmark in the WCR is so obvious to calculate more accurate SACS. Need one
step prior to putting COG shift from computation of the COG of WCR SACS, then shift COG COG
angle of about 4 WCR. Not square 2x2m which is usually 5% of the width and length structure.
Most1x1mdegree,insomecasesinWCR,theDEhasshownCOGshiftboxavailablethen.Only
afterWeighingcaseisseenrunningoutoftheboxCOGCOGshiftWCRcalculationsbyhand,but
the case This is very rare. Right Thanh Tran Thank admin on articles. Actually COG very
important in the preservice problem, especially lifting, loadout, transportation. The accuracy of
the location of the COG and directly influence the outcome of the problem. COG position is
usually determined through calculations (via wcr or SACS software model, bocad, ...), but this
willnotdeterminehowtruthful,duetochangesinthecourseofconstructionoraddotherdetails
requiredbytheOICasscaffolding,changearrangmentsling.....sotocoverallthechangesthat
need to be considered to COG shift. The COG shift envelope retrieved star depends on the size
andtheabilitytochangethecogtexturebutnotnecessarily2x2.ForexampleBoatlandingliftthe
COG shift 2x2 3x10 m which is not reasonable to listen too. Dad Vu Hoang COG is always a
certainposition.ShiftCOGtocalculatebecausewecannotfindtheabsolutepositionaccuracyof
the COG. For safety cases should be calculated using COG Shift. And radius depends Shift Base
Design.

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