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GHADEER

Forbidden unto you (for food) are carrion and blood and swineflesh, and that which hath been
dedicated unto any other than Allah, and the strangled, and the dead through beating, and the
dead through falling from a height, and that which hath been killed by (the goring of) horns, and
the devoured of wild beasts, saving that which ye make lawful (by the death-stroke), and that which
hath been immolated unto idols. And (forbidden is it) that ye swear by the divining arrows. This is
an abomination. This day are those who disbelieve in despair of (ever harming) your religion; so
fear them not, fear Me! This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour
unto you, and have chosen for you as religion al-Islam. Whoso is forced by hunger, not by will, to
sin: (for him) lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
- Surah 5: Verse 3
1st Part: Once we look at the verse above, we realize it talks about disbelievers being despaired.
What does it mean?
a) Dispair: Yas or despair is the opposite of hope.
Ref: Qamus al Muheet Vol2, page 260
b) Disbelievers: mean Idol worshippers/People of the book
2nd Part: The religion is completed today
This means that yesterday , the religion was not complete! It means that Allah provided something
in the religion today, which completed it.
Now, is this thing new or old?
Logically, its going to be new, something not provided before. If it was old, the religion would
have been completed then, not today.
3rd Part: Completed religion
Religion
Idealogy
Shariah
Religion comprises of Idealogy and Shariah. Idealogy is never ending, thus can never be
completed. Example: Allah/Tawheed. Something new can be learnt about Allah everyday, till the
Day of Judgment.
But Shariah can be (is) completed.

WHAT ARE THE OPINIONS OF SCHOLARS WITH REGARDS TO THE THING COMPLETED?
There are 6 opinions:
1) The verse descended at the beginning of ad-Dawah.
Ans:
The 1st condition of disbelievers being in despair does not fit here. At the beginning of ad dawah,
the disbelievers were hoping to destroy Islam and Prophets claim. One of the ways to destroy
Islam was battles.
2nd condition: The religion was not complete yet.
2) They say it was revealed on the day of Fath al Makka. It was in 8 AH
Ans:
a) Fath al Makka was only w.r.t the idol worshippers but not People of the book
b) Religion was not complete yet
3) Was revealed after Surah al Baraat
Ans:
a) It only effects Jews, not idol worshippers and Christians
b) In 9th AH, religion was not yet complete
4) Was revealed on the day of Arafat
Ans:
a) Lets assume that the verse descended that day and religion was perfected. But the other
condition that it should put the disbelievers in despair is not being fulfilled here. Hajj doesnt put
them in a state of despair because they wouldnt care if Muslims perform Hajj or not.
5) Sunnis say: Dont look at the hadith but look at the verse. It talks about certain type of food
being forbidden. Eg: dead meat, swine, blood etc. Thus Allah, after mentioning this, completed the
religion
Ans:
a) Whether Muslims eat dead meat, swine etc or not, should not put disbelievers in a state of
despair
b) These rules were revealed earlier as well:
i)
Surah 2, verse 173
He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any
other name hath been invoked besides that of God. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful
disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless. For God is Oft-Forgiving Most
Merciful.
ii)
Surah 16, verse 115
He has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and any (food) over which
the name of other than God has been invoked. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful
disobedience, nor transgressing due limits, - then God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
iii)
Surah 6, verse 145
Say: "I find not in the Message received by me by inspiration any (meat) forbidden to be eaten by
one who wishes to eat it, unless it be dead meat, or blood poured forth, or the flesh of swine,- for
it is an abomination - or, what is impious, (meat) on which a name has been invoked, other than
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God's". But (even so), if a person is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor
transgressing due limits,- thy Lord is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
iv)
Surah 5, verse 90
O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are
an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.
Looking at all the opinions, it is seen that they didnt fulfil the conditions mentioned in the verse
namely:
a) The disbelievers should despair
b) The religion should be completed

6) This opinion is the opinion of the Ahlulbayt


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First, we understand the meaning of kuffar. What do they wish or desire from Muslims? The
following verses will indicate what the disbelievers want us Muslims to do:
Surah 3: 69
It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray
(Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive!
(People of the Book want to misguide you)
Surah 2:109
Quite a number of the People of the Book wish they could Turn you (people) back to infidelity after
ye have believed, from selfish envy, after the Truth hath become Manifest unto them: But forgive
and overlook, till God accomplishes His purpose; for God Hath power over all things.
(People of the Book want you to leave Islam)
Surah 9:68
God hath promised the Hypocrites men and women, and the rejecters, of Faith, the fire of Hell:
Therein shall they dwell: Sufficient is it for them: for them is the curse of God, and an enduring
punishment
(They want you to be flexible -?)
Surah 6:38
There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part
of) communities like you. Nothing have We omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered
to their Lord in the end.
(They want you to be patient with their Gods-?)
Surah 40:14
Call ye, then, upon God with sincere devotion to Him, even though the Unbelievers may detest it.
(They dont want you to pray to Allah)
Surah 9:33
It is He Who hath sent His Apostle with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all
religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).
(They dont want you to spread the religion of Allah)
Surah 9:61
Among them are men who molest the Prophet and say, "He is (all) ear." Say, "He listens to what is
best for you: he believes in God, has faith in the Believers, and is a Mercy to those of you who
believe." But those who molest the Apostle will have a grievous penalty.
(As above in 9:33)
Surah 3:72
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers,
but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back
(They want you to leave the religion of Allah)
So we see that the kuffar hope all the above things from Muslims.
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Now, if we look at Surah 108:3 (al Kauthar), we know that Prophet did not have a son. Knowing
this, the disbelievers were waiting for a tragedy to befall on the Prophet as evidenced by the verse

Surah 52:30
Or do they say:- "A Poet! we await for him some calamity (hatched) by Time!"
Thus, we realize that the disbelievers were waiting for the Prophet to pass away. They were
assuming the holy Prophet to be just a poet, so that once he dies, the people will forget his
teachings and his religion too.
Also, check the following verse for a similar desire, the disbelievers had towards the Prophet
Surah 8:30
Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get
thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.
From the past, we see that they had battles with the Prophet and they did not complete their
promises and agreements etc. So the only hope they had now is to wait for the Prophet to pass
away so that they can control muslims again.
In Ghadeer, they saw someone being elected who they fought with in Badr, Khandaq, Khybar etc.
All the kafirs, knew Imam Ali too well. In Ghadeer, when Prophet chose Imam Ali, they thus became
hopeless since a successor was chosen to carry forward the teachings of Islam.
What is the new thing though?
In al-Kafi volume 1, page 289, number 4: This new thing was the bayah which was forced on
everyone, was an obligation.
Hadith by Imam al Baqir (a.s): He spoke about many issues first, then about Ghadeer and said that
Prophet gathered people and everybody later gave bayah. Allah would send one obligation after
another and wilayah was the last obligation that was sent, then the verse 5:3 descended. Imam
said it meant Allah was saying that he will not send anymore obligations.

HADITH IN SUNNI BOOKS


1)

Khateeb al Baghdad in Tarikh Baghdad


Volume 8, page 284, hadith no: 4392

It reaches Abu Hurayra. It says anyone who fasts on the 18th of Dhil Hijjah, it is like he fasted for 60
months and it is the day of Ghadeer Khum, when Prophet took the hand of Imam Ali and said Am
I not your wali? They said Yes. He said: Whoever am his mawla, Ali is his mawla. Umar came
and congratulated him and said Today you have become my mawla and mawla of all believing
men and women. Then the verse descended.

SUNNI OBJECTIONS:
Ibn Kathir in Al Bidayah wa al Nihayah said:
a)
The hadith above contradicts the hadith in Bukhari an Muslim and says it was revealed on the
Day of Arafat
Ans: Tadhkirat al Khawwas by Ibn al Jawzi, page 30 states that there is no contradiction between
the 2 ahadith because the verse can be revealed twice. Eg: Bismillah was revealed both in Mecca
and Medina.
Our shia scholars say that Ayat e Ruh was revealed more than once.
Surah Fateha was revealed twice
Ayat 33:33 was revealed in Umm Salamas, Ayeshas, Fatimas (sa) house and in the mosque too.
b) If you fast that day (Ghadeer) it is like youve fasted for 60 months, but if you fast during
Ramadhan, it is like youve fasted for just 10 months.
Ans:

In Sahih Muslim, it states that someone fasts for the month of Ramadhan and the next 6 days
of Shawwal, it is as if he fasted for the entire life

From as-Suyuti: If youve fasted 6 days in Shawwal, is it as if you have fasted for one year

Whoever fasts one day from Arafat, it is as if he has fasted for 1000 days (Reference?)

Whoever fasts for 3 days from any month, it is as if he has fasted for his entire life (Ref?)
[There is one problem in the chain
All the narrators are reliable though except one who is unknown. But Al Baghdadi said he is saduq.
Ad-Darqutni narrated from the unknown guy, thus the chain is good since ad-Darqutni is stronger
than Bukhari]

HADITH AL GHADEER Is it authentic?


1) Sunan an-Nisaei Vol 5, page 130, hadith no: 8464
Narrated by Abi at-Tofail. He attended the event of Ghadeer possibly 4 years old then (maybe
doesnt remember). He asked a companion, Zaid ibn Arqam who was also present in Ghadeer. Zaid
said that the Prophet asked them to make a minbar and said that his death is near and that he is
leaving the thaqalain (2 weighty things) behind. Allah is my mawla and Im the wali of every
believer. Then he took Imam Alis hand and said whosoever wali I am, Ali is his wali.
2) Al Bidayah wa al Nihayah Volume 5 page 228 by Ibn Kathir
His teacher (adh-Dhahabi) authenticated this hadith and said that he was amazed to see the
number of chains this hadith has.

3) Silsila as-Sahiha by al Albani Vol 4, page 343, hadith number: 1750


He talks about Hadith Al Ghadeer, mentions its chain of narrators and then says, this is what I was
able to ascertain about this hadith; the hadith makes the researchers certain that it is an authentic
hadith and that it produces knowledge (certainty). This hadith has alot of chains of narrators, which
Ibn Ukda collected it in a book. Ibn Hajar has said that some of those chains are authentic and some
are (hasan). To conclude, the two parts of this hadith are Sahih (man kunthum maula fa hadha Ali
un maula & allahuma wali man walah). And the first part is Mutawatir. Any researcher can tell this
if they looked at the chain of narrators, and what I have mentioned is enough.
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because I have seen Ibn Taymiyyah weaken the first part of this hadith, and about the second part
he claimed that it is weak. He did this because of a habit of exaggeration of being too hasty in
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4) Fath al Bari Vol 7, page 74 by Ibn Hajar Asqalani.


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The hadith, Whoever I am his Maula, Ali is his Maula, has been narrated by Al Tirmidhi, and al
Nisaei and it has many chains of narration, which ibn ukda gathered in one book. And many of its
chains are sahih and hasan
He also says in another book,
Tahdhib al Tahdhib, volume 4, pg 213: Ibn Jareer Al Tabari has gathered this hadith in a book, and
it has doubles the number of people who have mentioned and authenticated this hadith. And also
Ibn Ukda paid special attention to gather this hadith in one book and has narrated it from 70
companions or more.
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WHAT DOES THE HADITH MEAN?


1) Majma az-Zawaid Vol 9, page 105
Prophet asks, Am I not AWLA on the believers and my wives are their mothers? the believers
replied, Yes. Prophet said, Then whoever I am his maula, Ali is his maula. (Al Haithami says: its
narrators are reliable)
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2) Sunan ibn Majah hadith number: 113
Prophet asked the believers, Dont you know that I am AWLA over the believers than they are
over themselves? The believers replied, Yes. After this he said, Then whoever I am his maula,
Ali is his maula.
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3) Sahih Sunan Ibn Maja by al Albani, volume 1, pg 56, hadith number 94 and 115:
The Prophet asked, Am I not AWLA on the believers than themselves? (He repeated this in a
different form) They replied, Yes. Then he said, Then this is the WALI of whomever I am his
maula. (Al Albani says: Authentic)
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Silsila as-Sahiha by al Albani Vol 5, page 261, hadith number 222

Prophet said that after an argument of some companions with Imam Ali, they came to the Prophet
and he (s) said: what do you want from Ali? He is from me and Im from him. He is the wali of every
believer after me.
If the hadith is interpreted to mean love, then it renders it meaningless because of the words
after me
One uses after me to denote one of the 3 things:
i) Place
ii) Time
iii) Status
We believe, it was speaking about status.
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If sunnis say that it is about time, it again proves Imamah


If sunnis say that is about place, then this is not acceptable since Prophet and Imam Ali were in
two different countries. (Imam Ali was in Yemen during the argument)
Now lets focus on this statement Man kunthum maula fa hadha Ali un maula.
The Shia point of view: Prophet Mohammed transferred the rights of guardianship over the
Ummah to Imam Ali in this statement. (use of the word MAULA)
Sunni point of view: Prophet Mohammed is only saying, Whoever I am his helper, Ali is his helper
or whoever I am is friend, Ali is his friend.
However, if we want to understand this hadith, then we need to look at the whole context. The
main disagreement lies in the interpretation of the word MAULA.
Root of the word Maula = Wali
This root can be used to create many words in many forms, such as awla, waali, wilayah, maula etc.
The Prophet used this root in three different sentences in this hadith.
The first time he used it is when he asked: Am I not AWLA over the believers?
The second time he used it is in: Whoever I am his MAULA, Ali is his MAULA.
The third time he used it in: May Allah be the WAALI of whosoever is the WAALI of Ali.
All three highlighted words have the same root - Wali
In order to prove that the second word, MAULA means Guardian, we need to understand the first
sentence. Here the Prophet was actually referring to a verse from the Holy Quran Surah 33:6
The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers. (part
of the entire verse)
Lets look at what the Sunni scholars have to say about the meaning of the word AWLA:
Shaykh Ibn Jareer Al Tabari, in his Tafseer, volume 11, pg 146
Ibn Jawzi in Zad al Maseer volume 6, pg 190
ibn kathir in his Thafseer, volume 3, pg 476
Al Shawkani in Fateh al Qader, volume 4, pg 301
All of the above scholars say that the word AWLA here means Guardian, which means the person
who has control over others; or he who has ownership on the believers more than themselves.
Such a person can make decisions for the believers without their permission. So, we have proved
that the first sentence in the hadith is referring to Guardianship.
The Prophet wanted the companions to acknowledge his guardianship; he wanted them to admit
that he indeed has more authority over them than they do to themselves. Once they admitted this,
he went on to say, Fa man kunthu maula fa hadha Ali un maula.
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Our proof that Maula has the same meaning as Awla is


1. The context - those two sentences must be in context with each other. The Prophet asked the
believers to admit something and then went onto make a statement. This means there was a
direct relationship between the two sentences.
2. To make it even clearer, the Prophet used the prefix Fa (Fa man kunthu maula fa hadha..)
before the sentence. Fa is the equivalent of then in Arabic. It proves a relation between
what was said earlier and is going to be said next. This further proves a direct relation between
the statements.
Conclusion: The Prophet must have used the same meaning in the two sentences; otherwise it does
not make sense to connect the two. Additionally, it would be a source of immense confusion, why
would he intend them to mean different and yet form a relationship between them? (Specially that
both, awla & maula, had the same root)
It proves a relation between what was said earlier and is going to be said next.
Sunnis will attempt at this point to bring in a relation between the 3rd statement and 1st.
Third statement: Allah humma waali min wala...
We tell them that the relation between the 1st and 2nd statements is already proven; now the
burden of proof is on them to establish a connection between the 1st and 3rd statements.
They are not connected because, in the 1st statement, Prophet is addressing the Muslims. Same is
the case in the 2nd statement. However in the 3rd statement, he has changed direction, he (s) is now
addressing Allah (swt). Therefore it is a new statement, a new issue.
The hadith of al Ghadeer thus means whatever Imam Ali tell us, we do it because Imam Ali owns
us and we are his slaves.
We have proven the meaning of the hadith from the hadith itself. And next we will prove the same
meaning from an event other than the event of Ghadeer Khum, but still from the Sunni sources.
23 yrs after the death of the Prophet, after the death of Uthman & before Imam Ali became the
Caliph, when the Muslims wanted him to accept khalifath, this is what took place:
Imam Ali asked everyone to gather in the mosque as he wanted to ask them something.
Once everyone had gathered, he asked them, Whoever heard the Prophet say in Ghadeer Khum
what he said let him stand up?
30 companions seated in the mosque stood up, and admitted that they heard the Hadith. The
Narrator (Abu Al Tufail) then said, I left while something negative was in myself, and then I met
Zaid Ibn al Arqam (a companion) and told him about what Ive heard from Ali, then Zaid ibn al
Arqam said, Why do you deny this? I have heard the Prophet saying this.
Referenec: Al Haithami authenticated the hadith in Majma al Zawaid, volume 9, pg 104 &
Albaani said this hadith is authentic in his book, Al Silsila al Sahiha, volume 4, pg 331:
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If this hadith meant friendship why would Imam Ali bring it up 23 yrs after the death of the Prophet?
Why did he ask the companions to admit this? Why did he ask this in the period when the issue of
his Khilafah was being discussed? And why did the narrator almost deny this hadith?
When we turn to the Quran
Surah 9:71
And the believers, men and women, are protecting friends one of another
If the Prophet was referring to the ordinary friendship, then this verse already says that the
believing men and the believing women are protecting friends of each other. There was no need
for Imam Ali to repeat that, and there was no need for the companions to admit this, and nothing
will cause the narrator to have negative feelings toward this hadith. So, we can clearly conclude
that he was referring to Guardianship, in which he meant to say, I am not taking this right from
anybody, I already got this right from the Prophet, and I am accepting this position because of my
duty, not because anybody wants me to.
Why did the companions not follow this hadith?
Our answer is, wasnt the appointing of Prophet Mohammed established from the time of the
Christians and Jews? Did they not know he will be coming and he will be the final Prophet? Yet why
did they not follow him? Similarly with the companions, it is their issue. That is not an indication
that there is a flaw in the hadith.
In Musnad by Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, hadith number 22461:
A group of people, one of them is Abu Ayub Ansari, came to Imam Ali and said Salamun Aleikum
Maulana Imam Ali replied, Why do you call me Maula when you are Arab people? (Arab people
here means free, not slave) They replied, Because weve heard the Prophet saying in Ghadeer
Khum whoever I am his maula, Ali is his maula.




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Al Albaani said in his book, Al Silsala Al Sahiha Volume 4, pg 340: This chain is good, and its narrators
are reliable. Al Haithami also said in Majma Al Zawaed volume 9 pg 104: The narrators of Ahmed
are reliable.
Again this proves that the meaning of the word Maula in this context is Guardian, and not
friendship because Imam Ali said Why do you call me Maulana when you are free people?, and
the reply was what theyve understood from Ghadeer Khum ie. They are the slaves and Imam Ali
owns them.

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DISCUSSING THE CLAIMS OF THE AHLE SUNNA AND OUR REPLIES


Claim 1:
Maula = walaya = Helper, NOT Guardian
Waali = wilayah = Guardian
The Prophet could have used Waali to imply Guardianship, why did he use Maula?
One of the proofs they use is from the book, Lisaan Al Arab, which is somewhat a dictionary. One
of the famous Salafis who used this is Othman al Khamees. He went to Lisaan Al Arab, and picks
only one scholar, whos meaning of the word Maula agrees with his own definition and uses that
as proof.
Reply:
However if we were to refer to this book, under the word Maula, there are many other scholars
who disagree with this meaning (Maula = helper).
Here are some:
Ibn Manzur in Lisan al Arab, volume 15, pg 402: Maula is guardian who has authority over people.
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Al Raghab al Asfahani in al Mufradaat Fi Alfadh Al Quran, pg 885; There is no difference between
Wilayah and Walayah in terms of meaning. The real meaning is Guardian or to have authority over
something. The word wali and mula are used in having authority over something.
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and weve heard Walaya & Wilaya having the same meanings. (Abu al Abbas also said something
similar)
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Ibn al Atheer said in al Nihaia fi Ghareeb al Athar volume 5, pg 228: Whoever have authority over
something, then he is his Maula or his Wali.
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Claim 2:
The Prophet was in Mecca for Hajj, however he did not mention anything about Wilayah of Imam
Ali there. He made this statement in Ghadeer Khum, which is in Johfa, 160km from Mecca. Why
did he not say it in Mecca itself if it was so important, where he would have had a bigger crowd?
Most of the people had already gone home after Hajj from Mecca itself.
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First of all, the Prophet mentioned Hadith Thaqalayn during Hajj, which is by itself enough to prove
the wilayah of Imam Ali. Even if the incident of Ghadeer Khum did not take place, that hadith is
sufficient to prove the position of the Ahlul Bayt and wilayah of Imam Ali.
Additionally, if you look carefully at the map, you will observe that there are two lines, green line
and a red line. At the bottom of the map is Mecca, if you follow the line right to the top, then that
is Madina. The green line represents the way travellers usually used to travel from Mecca to
Madina. The red line represents the line which Prophet Mohammed used to travel to Madina
when he was hiding from the Kuffar, in the cave. It was not the usual route. Now observe the
position of Mecca. It is in the middle of the mountains. Sunnis assume that people can go directly
to their homes from Mecca. In reality this is not the case, due to mountainous terrain, they need
to travel to Johfa, which is a connection point. From there they can go their respective ways. This
means that most of the people accompanied the Prophet till Johfa, after which they went their
separate ways. Thus he did not lose most of the people as the Sunnis assume.
Let us say he did lose most of the people. Everybody went home, and only the people of Madina
were left with him or the people who lived around Madina. This is still enough.
Why? Lets read the following verse
Surah 9:101
And among those around you of the wandering Arabs there are hypocrites, and among the
townspeople of Al-Madinah (there are some who) persist in hypocrisy whom thou (O Muhammad)
knowest not.
This proves that the people of Madina and those around needed more attention, they also had
the most influence on Islam and its future. The Prophet wanted to focus on them in particular,
and place extra emphasis on them.
Now there is only one more problem we need to clarify from within this question. Sunnis will ask
why did he not make the extra effort in Mecca itself? Why wait till Johfa?
Reply:
He wanted this EXTREMELY important event to be a memorable one. It is a fact that the memory
recalls those incidents much better which took place around exception circumstances. The
Prophet wanted this event to be memorable, he wanted to embed it into the minds of the
believers so no one can claim later to have forgotten it. This is why he stopped them all in the
middle of the way, in an unusual spot like Johfa and made the statement.
Which piece of news will be more memorable for you? One that was mentioned during the regular
news time? Or one that the TV channel would suddenly cuts its program to broadcast it? This is
why it was chosen for the Prophet to declare the guardianship of Imam Ali in Johfa and not in Hajj.

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Claim 3:
The Shia has made a big deal out of something very small. It was a very trivial incident, which they
have blown out of proportion. Prophet Mohammed said this to make peace among the
companions, as some of them were displeased with Imam Ali. That is all. It was merely a small
disagreement that the Prophet wished to sort out and thus made this statement.
Some of the authentic hadiths the sunnis use to support their argument are:
Majma al Zawaid, volume 9, pg 108:
Also Ahmed al Hanbal narrated it, under hadith # 21883:
Prophet sent some people including Imam Ali to Yemen, to preach Islam. There they were
displeased with something about Imam Ali. When they returned, the Prophet asked them, How
was Ali? They told him regarding what they were displeased about. At this the narrator said that
the Prophet had a red face which showed his anger and replied, Man kunthu waliuh fa Ali un
waliuh. The narrator then said, I will never hate Ali again.
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Al Nisaei, volume 5, pg 130:
Musnad Ahmed, volume 5, pg 358, hadith # 21950:
I had something in my heart against Ali. Me and Khalid ibn Walid were sent to Yemen with Imam
Ali as the leader. We didnt like something about imam Ali. When we told the Prophet about it,
his face changed and he said, Man kuntu waliuh fa Ali un waliuh
Albani said this hadith is authentic according to Musnad, in his book Silsila Sahih, volume 4, pg 337
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Tirmidhi, hadith # 3645
Albani said this is authentic in his book Sunan Sahih Tirmidhi, volume 3, pg 521, hadith # 3704:
Similar to the previous ahadith, a group of people came to the Prophet and complained about
Imam Ali. The first person said something, Prophet kept silent, the second person went onto say
something, he kept silent and so forth till the fourth person complained. At this the Prophet

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showed anger he had never shown before and replied, What do you want from Ali? Ali is from
me and I am from Ali. And he is the wali of all the believers after me.
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Reply:
Those are incidents that have happened in different time, place and has nothing to do with
Ghadeer Khum because this incident actually happened before Hajj, where as Ghadeer Khum
happened after Hajj. This happened in Madina, when Ghadeer happened in Johfa.
;Our proof for this
Book of Al Dhahabi, Tareekh al Islam, Chapter of Kitab al Maghazi, pg 690:
)(He said: This is an authentic hadith, which al Bukhari narrated some of it
Khalid ibn Walid and others were sent to Yemen for 6 months to make Dawa. They did not
succeed in making them accept Islam. Prophet then sent imam Ali and ordered him to tell Khalid
and the rest to return back. Back obviously refers to Madina where the Prophet was. Imam Ali
once he reached Yemen made the people all stand in a straight line and read the Prophets letter
to them. At this first attempt, they all accepted Islam. He then sent a letter telling the Prophet
about this (obviously with Khalid ibn Walid and the rest in their way back as the Prophet had
ordered). When the Prophet read this letter the he went into Sujud and sent Salaam on the tribe
of Hamdaan, the tribe which converted
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What do we understand from this?


That Imam Ali had sent Khalid ibn Walid and the rest back to Madina with the letter to the Prophet
and then this is where the incident which the Sunnis refer to, took place. This has no relation to
Ghadeer Khum, and it was in Madina before Hajj.
In this hadith the Prophet showed anger, not in the case of Ghadeer.
In this hadith he was replying to the people, in Ghadeer he gave a speech.
In this hadith the Prophet spoke to a small group of people, in Ghadeer there was large crowd.
In this hadith the Prophet used the word Wali, and in Ghadee Khum he used Maula.
Thus the two incidents are not related; they are separate and took place at separate times.
However, we believe that this hadith can also be used to prove the guardianship of Imam Ali. The
reason is the Prophet said Ali is the wali of all believers after me, which proves that he meant
guardianship and not friendship since Quran already proved that to everybody before and after
the Prophet.
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Claim 4:
Bring the hadith of Ghadeer Khum through authentic chains, from the Shia books.
Reply:
The Hadith is Mutawater according to Al Ekhtisas for Shaykh Al Toosi, pg 216.
The Shias also have it with authentic chains, some of which are narrated in:
Al Khisal for Al Shaykh Al Saduq, pg 55.
Usul Al Kafi for Al Kulaini, volume 1, pg 286, hadith 1, Chapter of Allah & the Prophets Appointing
on the Imams one by one.
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