Roger Haeske Interviews Dr. Jennifer Daniels Regarding...

"The Medical Mafia Conspiracy

and The Candida Cleaner"

© 2010 Roger Haeske and Dr. Jennifer Daniels, all rights reserved

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"The Medical Mafia Conspiracy and The Candida Cleaner"
RH: Hello, this is Roger Haeske, the 42-year-old teenager. And I have a fantastic interview for you today
with Dr. Jennifer Daniels.

Dr. Daniels is a former medical doctor and unfortunately to the health of the world, her medical license
was suspended then surrendered – I’m not sure of the proper terminology – basically because, I think,
she wasn’t following their instructions of the medical establishment. She wasn’t maybe not using enough
drugs and maybe too many people were getting well without using their methods.

So anyway, we’re going to get into that, but what we’re talking about here today also is how she
discovered a very unique treatment that probably almost no one has heard of in this modern world of
dealing with Candida.

And this treatment actually works for many other things, as well, but what we’re going to go into
specifically today is how she handles it with patients who have Candida.

And so we’re going to get a lot of information about her, her background, and also about how the medical
establishment works and why there’s problems, danger sort of built into the whole system.

When I was talking with Dr. Daniels, to me some of this information was just shocking and maddening. I
already know a lot of this stuff. But having insider information from a doctor who is aware of what has
happened to her – at the time, she wasn’t aware of all the things that were going on to her.

So when you find out what she’s talking about, it’s just going to blow your mind. Now, just so you know,
Dr. Daniels was – as a doctor - very highly sought after because she actually healed her patients. Many
of these afflictions - at the time- were not even acknowledged by the Medical establishment. It was
believed that these things did not even exist at the time; things like Candida.

Dr. Daniels had patients actually flying to her from New York City, Florida, Canada, California, even
Europe. And they were going there because that was the only place they could go to actually get cured
and healed, assuming of course that they followed her instructions. So anyway, without further ado, I
want to introduce you to the very unique and special, an angel, as many of her patients – call her.

She’s very smart. By the way, she studied at Harvard, at Penn, and also at Wharton School of Business,
where she got an MBA, a Masters of Business Administration. So not only is she an MD, she’s also an
MBA. So we have a very smart woman here, and she just has an incredible, shocking, and hopefully
positive story in the end, to share with you today. So hello and welcome, Dr. Daniels.

JD: Great. Thank you. It’s great to be here.

RH: I’m so glad you’re here. So why don’t we start off with getting to know a little bit about yourself, about
how you sort of got into the medical profession – you know, were you a good student, things like that. And
we’re going to hear – well, anyway, there’s going to be a lot of interesting stuff. So why don’t we get
started with that?

JD: Well, I was very ambitious, and in high school I did very well, great grades, top of my class. It won me
a National Merit Scholarship to college. I decided to go to Harvard because Harvard had a very high
admission rate into medical school. So over 96% of the people from Harvard who applied to medical
school actually got accepted, so I went to Harvard. But a premedical curriculum is pretty much the same
everywhere.

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The important thing about the premedical curriculum is it’s designed to require the student to put in so
much effort and so much time that they have to consume their holidays, their weekends, studying and
they literally become isolated from their own families and from friends. And this is because they have to
put great effort into their academic studies. Now, it’s not because the material is so complex, because it
isn’t. For example, in Harvard, there’s a course called Organic Chemistry. In Organic Chemistry, they give
a test – every single month, you get a test, which is reasonable, and in between you have homework
assignments. However, they will only give you the answers to your homework assignment a week before
the test, so you only had one week to review and practice materials that they took a whole month to teach
you. And this meant that for one week out of every month, you had to put all other matters aside. Multiply
this by 4, a reasonable course load and you have an isolated individual.

And so by requiring students to get a certain grade point average undergraduate, and then submitting
them to this type of process, you select the students who have been socially isolated and have even
removed themselves from the community that has nurtured them. And this is a very important part of
being a doctor. If the student hasn’t done that, then in order to get those grades, the student would have
to accept other people’s works and present it as his own work or get the answers in advance, or
whatever. So you’re selecting for people who are isolated from the community or people who have
integrity issues. And this is really the true process of admitting people to medical school. They select the
people who had a high level of conformity and obedience, and this is absolutely critical.

RH: Very interesting.

JD: It’s a very effective conditioning program. But then I continued on to medical school. I went to
medical school because I wanted to help people get better. I was very concerned about that.

I didn’t realize this conditioning process until I actually was on the medical school admissions committee,
and I realized that we were not, by any means, getting the brightest or the best of anything. And it really
was actually disturbing, being on the medical school admissions committee.

However, a very, very important part of going to medical school is that it’s very, very expensive. So, when
I was talking to my classmates about, “Gee, you know, this is very exciting, I’ll have a chance to learn how
to cure people.” And they were talking about what specialty to go into so they’d be able to pay off all this
debt. All because the medical school experience is so expensive. It’s designed to put the doctors in
golden handcuffs. Yes, they earn a fair amount of money when they get out, but they have an incredible
amount of debt. This re-focuses the attention of a lot of medical students not on the patient, not even the
outcome of their therapies, but the debt itself.

RH: Wow, that’s incredible – go ahead.

JD: If a student decides to drop out of medical school, this does not in any way satisfy their debt. Many
students who might decide maybe halfway through or after the first year that this was not really what they
thought it was, are under a lot of pressure to continue and to graduate because this might be the only way
of paying off that debt.

One thing that happened in medical school pretty early on, like the first or maybe the second or the third
year, you begin to get faced with serious moral issues. And for me, it happened very early on. At the end
of my freshman year, my first year of medical school, I decided I wanted to do some research. So I asked
around and they said, “Oh, you know, go talk to this doctor. He’s always doing research.” So I go and I
talk to him, and at the time I had a National Health Service Corps Scholarship to medical school, which
meant I didn’t have to pay anything, I didn’t take out any loans, I didn’t have any debt. So I really wasn’t
concerned about the price of medical school. And so he said to me, “Well, why don’t you sign this form
here saying that you’re not receiving any other federal grants and I can get you a few extra dollars for
doing the research?”

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And of course, this would be dishonest because I was receiving this national scholarship to go work in an
underserved area when I graduated. So I said to him, “I’m not going to sign this because I am receiving
money. But you know what, I’ll do the research because I’m interested in it. I don’t need to earn any
money in the research.” He said, “Oh, okay. Well, how about academic credit?” I said, “Oh, yes, that’ll be
good. I need academic credit to help me graduate.” And so I did the research, completed the research,
really spent incredible hours, about 1,000 hours doing this research. And then, I presented my results,
and he said, “Well, you know what? I don’t like those results. I want you to change all the numbers. I want
you to falsify the research outcome.” So I said, “No, I’m not going to do that.” And he said, “Well, then I’m
not going to give you any academic credit for the research that you’ve done.” Of course, I thought that I
was being mistreated and this was outrageous.

So I went to the Dean of Students to complain, as any reasonable person would do. And the Dean of
Students said, “Oh, you must’ve misunderstood him.” I said, “Well, you talk to him.” So he went and talked
to the Professor, and sure enough, the Professor repeated the same story to the Dean. So the Dean
came back to me and said, “You know what? He runs his course and he gets to set his academic
standards as he wishes. And if he wants you to falsify the data, then that’s what you have to do if you
want academic credit.”

RH: Wow, that’s shocking.

JD: Well, even more shocking is what happened after that. The Dean said, “I’ll talk to him again and see
if I can negotiate something for you.” I said, “Okay.” So the Dean negotiated a deal that if I put another
semester of work into the research project, I would get credit for the work I’d already done, not for the
work I was going to do. Now I had choices. One, I could start legal action to complain about being treated
unfairly. I could drop out of medical school, totally disillusioned. Either one of those two things would’ve
taken me out of the running. I would have never become a doctor. And the process basically weeds out
people who don’t have a high tolerance for dishonestly all around them.

RH: Wow.

JD: And so the process, step by step by step, leads you to tolerate dishonesty. So, I said, “Well, I can
see that I have to find another way to get out of medical school.” And so what I did was I just let go of
this, said, “Hey, you know what? I’m just going to walk away from this. I’m going to take extra courses
during vacation tmes and go ahead and graduate.” And I also decided then to register at the business
school. And so, this is an example – and like I say, I’ve done research many times since then, I’ve had
opportunities to do research, if you want to call it that. And each time, I was asked to falsify data, or it
came to my attention the data was being manipulated, let’s say, after I submitted it. So, again, anybody
who has a low tolerance for this stuff will just bail out. But how do you keep them from bailing out? You’re
stuck there because you’ve got this big huge debt over your head that you’ve got to repay. And so it’s
really a difficult thing.

RH: So tell me your general opinion then of research studies. Because it seems to me, every time you did
a research study, either they asked you to falsify your data, or they took your data and manipulated it
anyway to get the outcome that they wanted. So what good are these research studies?

JD: They’re really not that useful. In fact, especially if they’re measuring things like change in cholesterol
level, not overall decrease in mortality. Blood pressure is an excellent example. They’ll measure how
many points drop there is in the level of the blood pressure, not any increase in quality of life or increase
in life expectancy or anything like that. And I was absolutely shocked and amazed when I spent so much
time in medical school studying hypertension, studying the drugs that would be used for it, only to find
when I graduated that taking high blood pressure medications did not help people live one minute longer.
All it did was change their cause of death, but not the time of death. And so this, to me, was of course
shocking.

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And another thing that happens in medical school is they prep you for this. And what they do is they say,
“Well, you know what? We are teaching you the latest stuff, we’re teaching you the best stuff, there is no
better information anywhere. Despite our best efforts, we’re just going to be truthful with you, half of
everything we’re teaching you is not true. We just don’t know what half. And when you get out, you have
got to work really, really hard to keep up with the latest breaking stuff, because every four years, another
50% of what we told you becomes false.” This was scary. I said, okay, after 12 years, what happens? If
50% of the stuff I’m learning is now true, and after four years, 25% is true, another four years, 12.5%,
another four years, 6.25%, which would mean that 93% at least of everything taught in medical would be
false in 12 years. Now, if it’s false 12 years from now, isn’t it false now? I mean, think about that.

So – yeah, if you do that kind of math, which is just fourth grade math here, nothing heavy, then you
realize that necessarily, over 90% of what’s being taught in medical school has got to be false. But to
throw you off the mark, they tell you 50% is false. And so when you discover that one thing is false,
another thing is false, another thing is false, you don’t really figure it out until you cross the 50% mark,
which can take five, ten, 20 years. And even then, you’re like, “Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s getting outdated.
I’m replacing it with updated information. Oh, of course.” And so it keeps the doctor engaging in behavior
based on unreliable information. And so it keeps a thinking, reasonable person from discrediting the
source of their information.

And this is very important because in medical school, the protocols are written by the drug companies.
The drug companies actually decide, like, you see a patient, what do you do? The patient says he has a
cough. Okay, you do this test. Okay. Then you start this drug, Drug 1. Drug 1 doesn’t work; what do you
do? Well, you add Drug 2. If Drug 2 doesn’t work, what do you do? Well, you add Drug 3. So, wait a
minute. If Drug 1 and Drug 2 didn’t work, why continue them? But this is the kind of mental activity that
really gets you in trouble. You can’t pass tests when you engage in that kind of thinking, because that’s
what board certification is all about, to create uniform thinking.

And so a doctor says, “Oh, yeah, I have to give this answer on the exam – Drug 1, add Drug 2, add Drug
3, and so on.” And so really, you’re trained to multiply the person’s side effects and increase their
chances of dying from these drugs. Because we know Drug 1 didn’t work, right? So it has no therapeutic
benefit whatever. However, it does have side effects. Drug 2 didn’t work, so we know it has no
therapeutic benefit. But it has side effects. So we’re multiplying this person’s side effects and we’re
actually creating illness.

Another statistic that’s really fascinating, I found it fascinating, is that for every one dollar in medication
a person consumes, they will have to consume at least three dollars in medical care to treat the
side effects of the one dollar worth of medication. This is a marketer’s dream. How would you feel if
you could sell someone a one dollar product and guarantee they have to come back and spend another
three dollars with you? And of course, that three dollars, guess what? It gives rise to another nine dollars.
And this is not arithmetic, this is not geometric; this is exponential growth.

RH: It is quite a money-making system, is it not?

JD: But you know, that’s what it’s designed to do. That’s really what it’s designed to do. And people are
just shocked when they go see a doctor, they spend a lot of money on drugs, they get a lot of tests, and
they don't feel better. Well, it’s not what the system was designed to do. Engaging in the medical
system in order to get healthy is like eating soup with chopsticks. The chopsticks just weren’t
designed for that job.

So the medical system in the United States is specifically designed to accelerate the transfer of funds
from patients to hospitals, to drug companies, and to insurance companies. And that’s really important
because whether or not the doctor gets paid is not really a big deal. And a doctor will tell you that, too –
all the trouble they have being paid by insurance companies. But it helps to know the history of medicine.

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Medicine in this country took a turn in 1911 with something called the Flexner Report. Well, the Flexner
Report was paid for by drug companies. What Flexner did is he went all across the country, documented
all the schools of healing, and did a report saying that every school that did not use pharmaceutical
agents was fraudulent and was endangering the health of patients. The drug companies then financed
the establishment of medical licensing boards in each state and actually gave those licensing boards
standards to use in order to license doctors. Then they made donations to medical schools and, in
exchange for the donations, influenced the curriculum. The AMA already existed; it was a very anemic,
weak organization. Drug companies funded it to make it a more prominent organization. So this is what
happened in 1911.

Fast-forward to 1935, a hospital, Baylor Medical Center in Texas, was having difficulty getting paid and it
was about to go under. It looked at all this bad debt and realized that most of the bad debt was from its
very own employees. Then, they started something called Blue Cross. And they took money out of each
employee’s paycheck every month. They were shocked that, 1) the employees tolerated it, 2) the
employees were pretty happy with it, and 3) it actually solved their financial crisis. And this gave birth to
health insurance as we know it today, designed exclusively to make sure that the hospitals get paid.

Now, the drug companies must’ve ridden on the gravy train after the ‘40s and health insurance became
classified as a benefit to escape the wage/price controls that were put in place during World War II. So
now, fast-forward to today, the insurance company is designed to make sure the hospitals get paid, to
make sure the drug companies get paid, and of course, take some money for themselves. Nowhere is
there anything about protecting the patient from financial ruin. And that’s why health bills are the
leading cause of bankruptcy in the United States, and most of the people who declare bankruptcy
due to health bills have health insurance.

The health insurance is just there to extract money from people so it can be divided among the three
major players. And this is something that, if you understand it, then you can, I think, make a more
reasonable decision about your health and relationship it might have to health insurance. And that’s an
important thing to grasp, because increased access to a system that begets illness may not be the best
thing for your health. So that’s a little bit of background about the medical system.

And in medical school – you know, I got to see this firsthand when I went to pharmacology class one day.
And I was just a real learning machine. I would memorize at least 70 drugs a night; what do they do,
when do you prescribe them, what’s the dosage, when should you not prescribe them, what’s the generic
name, what’s the brand name? And I was just boom-boom-boom-boom, memorizing, and I worked really,
really hard. So I came to class one day and the professor was really just rattling off all these drugs and
telling us when to use them. One day I was stunned when the theoretical benefits of a drug were revealed
and this grand description of benefits was followed by the statement that there was no proof of benefit but
it should be prescribed anyway this really shocked me, and this particular drug is Pyrimadol. And this is
just an antiplatelet agent that’s supposed to help prevent blood clots, but then he said, “Well, you know, it
doesn’t really. It’s supposed to prevent stroke. But it doesn’t really. But you should prescribe it.” I thought
this was just totally puzzling. And at the end of the lecture, the professor raised his hand up, and said,
“Hey, Mr. Drug Rep, did I get that right for you? Everything the way you want it?” And the drug rep said,
“Yep, Professor, everything’s just perfect.”

RH: We have – That’s interesting that the – of course, I think a lot of people know that, that the doctors
are highly influenced by the drug reps, and it looks like the people teaching the doctors are also highly
influenced – or totally influenced by the drug industry.

JD: Exactly. And what we doctors were led to believe, that only the information we were getting during a
drug rep lunch was biased in favor of the drug companies. And most doctors don’t even suspect that the
very curriculum at the medical school is directed by the drug companies, supervised by the drug
companies. And so there’s not much in their education that’s objective evidence, at all.

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RH: So, can you tell me – you were telling me – basically, you were telling me that early on, you as a
doctor, you basically believed in the medical process, and basically you were killing people through your –
in an attempt to try to help them. But also we talked about a specific example or two that you had in – I
guess when you were in medical school or you were—

JD: In residency.

RH: When you were doing the residency. You want to share that?

JD: Yes. Now, in residency, that’s where doctors go to sharpen their clinical skills and to learn more about
how to take care of patients. And so, in residency, when we first sign on and they give you a white coat,
stethoscope, and nametag. You feel that you have finally arrived. You’re in charge and you’re writing
orders and examining patients in a hospital. I and the other residents were told very clearly, “It is not
your job to save any lives. If you feel that the senior doctor is doing something that is unsafe or that’s
dangerous, it is not your job to stop them.” And that was pretty much it. You know, “You are not in a
position to contravene or disobey any orders from a senior doctor.” And that was the instructions we were
given.

And so fast-forward to an actual situation. This really happened. This was in 1983. I was doing a thing
called a cardiology rotation, so the heart doctors were teaching me all about cardiology, and it was my job
to examine patients, write orders, and review the orders with the senior doctor. Of course while he was
teaching me, he would say, “Eh, let’s change this” or “Eh, let’s change that.” All right. So there was this
patient who’d been in the hospital and he had a heart attack, and he had a little stroke that went along
with his heart attack – which, by the way, is common. 30% of heart attack patients have a concurrent
stroke. And so, at that time, the medical fashion was to anticoagulate heart patients with something called
heparin. And if you know about heparin, you know that the therapeutic dose, enough to thin the blood, is
very close to the deadly dose, enough to kill the patient. So for this reason, it’s very closely monitored and
it’s dripped in a solution and you have to really pay attention to it.

So I came to work one morning and the nurse was just absolutely distraught. She says, “Oh, my God, Dr.
Daniels, I made an awful, awful mistake.” So I said, “Whatever it is, let’s take a look at it and maybe it can
be fixed.” Well, she had given the patient four times the concentration of heparin at four times the rate
that I had ordered. And this had been running for about two hours. And so this person basically received
about 32 hours of heparin over a two-hour period. So the first thing I did was ran to the room to make
sure he was still alive. And sure enough, you know, he was sitting up in bed, and he said, “Hello,” and I
said “Hello.” Then I dashed out of the room and said, “Okay, this is what we do. Stop the heparin
immediately. Check his urine. See if there’s any blood in his urine. And do a CBC, see if he is having any
blood loss, and let’s see, you’ve got enough heparin in him for quite a few hours. Let’s check his blood
thinness now, and in about 12 hours, just to see kind of where he’s at.” And she said, “Okay.” Well, that
wasn’t the end of it.

Unfortunately – or however you want to look at it – the senior attending doctor, this patient's personal
physician that he was paying a substantial sum of money for expert care, said, “What? Is that my
patient?” I said, “Yes, it is.” He said, “Don’t you ever, don’t you dare stop heparin on a patient of mine.
Never, ever, ever, do that.” I said, “Well, doctor, how much heparin would you like him to have?” And he
told me and I wrote it down. And I said, “Well, doctor, how fast would you like that drip to go?” And he told
me; I wrote it down. And I said, “Are there any other blood tests you would like, other than the ones I
ordered?” He said, “Well, no more tests now.” “Okay.” I wrote that down. And I drew a line, put an X, and I
said, “Here, doctor. Sign there.” Well, he signed it.

The nurse just about fell apart. So I took the paper and handed it to her, and she ran back to the nurses’
office, off the cardiac unit and talked to her supervisor. I overheard her say, “Oh, my God, this is horrible
the patient’s already received a dangerous dose. If I follow these orders, it’ll be even worse.” And so the
nursing supervisor said, “Well, did the attending physician sign it?” And the nurse said, “Well, yes.” The

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supervisor said, “Well, you have to follow them then.” Of course, what happened was the patient bled
from every orifice he owned, and they drained the blood bank supplies of Philadelphia that day, just trying
to keep him from dying.

RH: So did he end up dying?

JD: No, he ended up living. Unfortunately, he was a dentist, and because of this overdose of heparin, he
developed retinal hemorrhages in his eyes and was blind in both eyes.

RH: Oh, my God.

JD: It was awful. And his heart attack was trivial. It was not even enough to disable him. It was just a total,
all-around tragedy.

RH: Wow.

JD: But again, seeing something like that happen, let’s say I decide that I was going to step in and save
this person’s life, so to speak. Well, I would’ve been immediately disciplined and drummed out. And that’s
the way the profession is, that if you’re the kind of person that’s going to speak up about that, you’re
summarily removed, at whatever point you decide you’re going to speak up. Judging from the nursing
supervisor's action, this had happened before and there was a policy in place.

RH: So basically, someone who believes in doing the right thing is not doctor material?

JD: No. But again, – it’s a seduction. It’s little bit by little bit. First they tell you half the stuff is wrong, but
they’re going to replace it with new research that’s coming down the pike. So when you do something and
the patient gets worse, you’re like, “Oh, this is the part they’re working on. Okay, I’ll keep doing this until
they find something better. I know they’re looking at it.” And then if that’s not enough pressure for you, the
way malpractice is defined, malpractice is defined as deviating from these dangerous and deadly
protocols that were written by the drug companies.

So if you’re a doctor and you prescribe a drug for a patient and the patient does very poorly – let’s say he
dies. But you prescribed a drug that was – you were instructed by the PDR and by all the education
you’ve received. Next patient comes along; you prescribe the same drug. The patient dies. The third
patient comes along and you say, “You know what? The last two patients that got this drug did not do too
well. I really think we need to pass on the drug right now.” Just that alone, deviating from the protocol, is
nowadays regarded as malpractice. And so if you decide to be compassionate and not adhere to a
protocol, then you’re setting yourself up for malpractice.

And at some point after getting so many of these dings against your record, there goes your license. So
doctors are under severe pressure, negative pressure, to conform and to comply with these protocols.
And the thing is, we know these protocols are deadly. Why? Because 107,000 people every single year
die in hospitals as a result of properly prescribed medications. That’s more people than are killed every
year by incompetent doctors.

RH: I – can you say that again? More people than are killed…?

JD: More people are killed by competent doctors prescribing medication according to protocol than are
killed by incompetent doctors.

RH: That’s very interesting. Yeah, I’ve read – I remember a lot time ago, reading on Dr. Mercola’s
website that iatrogenic – I guess doctor-caused death was like, at the time, was like the third-leading
cause of death in the United States, I guess behind cancer and heart—

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JD: Yes, it depends on who’s counting. Yes, it can actually be number one. It depends on how you count.
But I would be conservative – I’m just going to take the numbers that the medical profession itself gives,
and this is the number that the medical profession – 107,000 people a year. That’s a very, very, very, very
low number. If you count things like doctors who are incompetent, if you add hospital-acquired infections
as a source of death and add up all these other sources, I mean, some researchers get as high as
999,000 deaths per year. Some people might quibble with his number.

But the point is that everyone will agree, you have the greatest chance of dying at the hands of a
competent doctor following protocol than at the hands of an incompetent doctor. Now, that is based on
the federal government's figures for deaths due to medical errors and the hospital figures of death due to
properly prescribed and properly administered medications. This number of 107,000 has been
published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, New England Journal of Medicine. This is
all – no one can dispute that. That’s straightforward. So I’m just sticking with the bare facts.

RH: Yeah. That’s with their facts. And of course, we know that their facts can be adapted in their favor, so
doctor-caused deaths might be a hell of a lot higher than can be imagined. And it’s funny, you know,
when some of these alternative practitioners, after they get patients, and these patients have been
treated all through the medical system, and they’re virtually on their deathbed, and these alternative
people try something different, and if one of their patients out of 500 dies, you know, then they’re in big
trouble.

JD: Oh, they’re going to jail. I mean, gee whiz, that’s practicing medicine without a license, and may be
one of the safest things you can submit to.

RH: Yeah. So, there was one other example of death with the – I guess a nephrologist. Can you just tell
me about that one? That one’s really shocking, too.

JD: Oh, it’s fascinating. This was the same residency, same hospital. And this was a hospital for the rich
and not so famous. So everyone that came in was well-heeled or had great insurance. You knew they
were poor if they didn’t have a private duty nurse with them. It was that kind of hospital. So I was on duty
one night and this guy came in – and actually, he walked in. He walked and he talked, and I was like,
“Wow, why is he getting admitted? That’s interesting.” But he’d been admitted several times before and
so I was kind of familiar with him. So no problems doing his history and physical, getting him kind of, you
know, tucked in. And five days later, he was dead. He got carted out of the hospital in a pine box.

So this to me was just an amazing thing. How is it somebody walks into the hospital and is carried out in a
pine box? At the same time, you can imagine my intellectual curiosity was definitely aroused. So the
medical director for the hospital had decided that I needed special guidance and that I needed somebody
to teach me how to be a doctor, whatever that was. And so I told them I didn’t want any third-year
resident teaching me. I wanted to learn from the source, I wanted to learn from a senior doctor who had
experience, who was capable. He said, “Well, I guess that would have to be me.” So I had mandatory
meetings with him every single week where I had to bring a case study patient and present the patient
and present my questions.

And so this particular week, I chose this patient because I was like, I need to know. This to me is very
confusing. You come to a hospital to get better. How is it you walk in and you get rolled out to your own
funeral? So I got his chart, which was two volumes, each one like two or three inches thick, and went over
all the admissions. And the pattern was he would be an outpatient – he had severe hypertension. He
would be started on a hypertensive medication while outside the hospital. He would become ill. He would
be admitted to the hospital. The medication would be stopped. He got better and he would go home,
doing fine. This happened about four or five times a year. His attending physician was a kidney
specialist. Well, the kidney specialist went on vacation and the cardiologist took over. Well, the
cardiologist got everything backwards. He admitted the guy to the hospital and started the medication
while the patient was in the hospital and continued the medication until the patient ultimately died.

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And so I presented this case to the medical director, and he became absolutely ashen – his face was
white as a sheet. He said, “Oh my God, get the PDR.” And the PDR is the Physician’s Desk Reference.
This is the book that tells you all about drugs and what they do and when you should prescribe them and
how much. So I got the PDR – I ran and got it and brought it back. I was like, “Wow, this is going to be
really interesting. We’re going to learn something. Wow, this is great.” So he said, “Open it up to that
page. Open it up to this drug.” And every single medical condition this man had was a side effect of this
drug he was taking. And the drug was absolutely deadly, and it was the drug that killed him. So what
happened was the kidney specialist had been seeing him in the office, putting him on this drug. When he
got sick, she would admit him and stop the drug, he would get better, then she would send him home.
And of course, he had excellent Cadillac insurance. And what she was doing was bilking his insurance
four times a year, whenever she needed an extra few thousand dollars or something. Kind of like an ATM
machine. Unfortunately, she went on vacation. The covering cardiologist tried to do the same thing, but
he got it backwards. Instead of putting him on the drug as an outpatient and then stopping it while he was
in the hospital, he admitted the patient and started the drug while he was in the hospital, and the patient
died.

And so when we read the PDR, it became as plain as day to me and to the medical director what was
going on here. And this was just the ace, number one kidney specialist for the hospital. Everyone totally
admired and respected her. And so here we have this very obvious situation. And so the medical director
said to me, “Well, what do you think we ought to do with Dr. Such-and-such? Do you think we should
maybe present this case to Grand Rounds and embarrass her?” I looked him straight in the eye and said,
“You know what? You’re running this hospital. You’re teaching me. How do you think we should handle
this?” And he said, “I think that you don’t need to have any more of these meetings, that we are through
of these meetings. I think that you’ve progressed far enough, and so we don’t need to bother with these
anymore.” And that was the end of that.

And the doctor was never disciplined and nothing was ever done. Now, had I made a stink about that,
had I – well, I wasn’t even that sophisticated. But had I decided that I was going to call the medical
licensing board and report this, then of course, what would’ve happened? I would’ve never become a
physician. That hospital would never have signed my piece of paper that I needed saying that I had
successfully completed residency and was fit to be licensed. And so the system is filled with these things.
It’s a self-perpetuating, self-correcting system.

RH: Can you tell me how you were going to – was this the incident related to you wanting to resign from
medical school? Or that was something else?

JD: No, I resigned from the residency.

RH: Oh, the residency. Okay.

JD: Yes. As soon as I started the residency, I started doing electives like nephrology, neurology, plastic
surgery, the residencies no one else wanted to do. This means that I only had contact with specialists, not
the family medical doctors or internal medicine doctors. What happened was professors who had never
worked with me would write letters in my personnel folder saying that I wasn’t as knowledgeable as they
thought I should be, which is pretty vague. I didn’t do what they thought I should’ve done in certain patient
situations, which is pretty vague. And I didn’t seem to have the fund of knowledge that they thought I
should have. So they were putting stuff in my folder and things started getting pretty outrageous and
pretty negative. And I looked at who was writing some of this and like, “I don’t even know this doctor. He
hasn’t even ever seen me work! This is not going well.” And so. I said, “Okay, fine. We’re going to nip this
in the bud.”

I wrote each doctor individually a letter saying, “Thank you so much for your valuable feedback. I always
want to improve myself. Would you please let me know which patient, which date, and what exactly it was

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I did not know, so that I can go and correct my information and knowledge deficits. Thank you so much. I
look forward to your detailed reply. Sincerely, Dr. Daniels.” Well, you can imagine, when they got a letter
like that, written by somebody they’d never even seen work, they were wondering what the heck to do
now. And so no one wrote me back. Instead, the medical director approached me and said, “I understand
you want some feedback.” I said, “Yes, I’d like that.” And then he proposed this meeting with him once a
week and he proposed that I come in an hour early every day, which is a huge burden when you’re
already working 90 hours a week, to come in an hour early – you know what I mean? I mean, it’s tough.

RH: Yeah.

JD: What I did, I did all this stuff – yes, I did all this stuff. And then, last straw was a doctor said something
to me, that was verbally – you know, really pretty abusive and out of line, I thought. So I said to myself,
“Let me go check that folder and see how my folder is doing.” And I checked my folder and there’s more
stuff in my folder from people who had never seen me work, and saying negative things. I said, “You
know what? I can’t win. I can’t win.” So I wrote my letter of resignation. I mean, why should I stay here
and work 105 hours a week, when obviously they don’t intend to license me? So I’m out of here. So I
tendered my resignation. I figured, what the heck – I had an MBA. I’m going to go look for work with the
MBA, you know? Not everything in life can work out.

So I tendered my resignation – I think it was 8:00 in the morning, as soon as I got in. And my beeper just
started going off like crazy, with other residents calling me, saying, “Dr. Daniels, we have a serious
situation. There’s an emergency meeting and it’s going to be in the conference room next to the
cardiology ward.” I said, “Okay, I’ll be there.” They said it was like 10:00 or something. Then the Medical
Diector started paging me. He said, “Dr. Daniels, I need to see you in my office. This is really an
emergency. This is, you know, very, very important.” I said, “Okay, well I’m due in cardiology now and I’ve
got this other meeting, blah-blah, I’ll see you at whatever.” He said, “Okay, fine.” Of course, my position
was, “I don’t have any problems because I’ve resigned. I’m not worried.”

So I went to meet with the residents and come to find that the big, big emergency was that I was
resigning! I’m like, “Well, what’s that got to do with you guys?” They said, “You don’t understand. What
we’ve been doing is we don’t answer our pages all day long. At 5:00, we’re getting ready to go home, we
sign out to you, and then you’re going around and doing all the work and answering all the calls we didn’t
answer during the day. So if you quit, then how are we going to get our job done?” Because, of course, I
was getting their job done. And then they said, “Well, besides, if you quit, you’ll never be a doctor
anyway.” I said, “Hey, if you saw what’s going on to my personnel folder, you would know – I’m not going
to be a doctor anyway. They don’t intend to let me be a doctor.” And they said, “Oh! Well, if that was
happening to us, we quit, too.” I said, “Okay, end of meeting, great. See you guys in the future. I’m out of
here.”

When I went to go see the medical director, the medical director gave me this speech about, “Well, you
know, this is a big decision you’re making, and if you leave now, you’ll never be a doctor. You won’t be
able to practice medicine.” I said, “Excuse me, doctor. Have you seen my personnel folder? I’m not going
to be a doctor if I stay here.” He said, “Oh, well, I don’t think you should take that too seriously.” I said,
“Oh, really? Are you taking it seriously?” He said, “Well, uh, uh – well, what is it going to take for you to
stay?” I said, “Well, I’m only here to get my piece of paper signed in June. Now, if you’re going to sign my
piece of paper in June saying I can be licensed, I’ll stay. I’ve got no problem.” He said, “Okay, great, no
problem. I will sign that paper in June and you will be licensed in June, and no problem.” I said, “Will you
put that in writing?” He said, “No, I’m not going to put it in writing. You have to take my word for it.” I said,
“Well, what about these doctors who are giving me a hard time and being rude to me and mistreating
me?” He said, “You have my permission to say whatever you feel is appropriate to them.” I said,
“Excellent. Thank you very much, doctor.”

And so, you know, from that day forward, if a doctor said something to me that was off the wall, I would
just tell him what was on my mind. And then they’d run to the medical director and the medical director

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would say, “Well, stop picking on her.” And so that pretty much cleared things up. But again, if you’re a
nonconformist, if you’re the least bit docile, you get singled out. And I was doing a bone marrow biopsy –
and people in the audience, some of them know what a bone marrow biopsy is, but it’s really painful. You
take this big thing – it’s almost like a dagger that you’d use for a Count Dracula. And you put it through
the person’s skin, through their muscle, into their bone, feel the crunch, and then you suck that and pull—

RH: Ugh.

JD: Yeah, exactly. Pull the stuff out of their bone. I mean, it is extremely painful. So, okay, I’m doing this
procedure. So the doctor says, “Okay, Dr. Daniels, I want you to do this procedure” – the doctor’s senior.
And so I’m entering the skin, entering the flesh, and didn’t even inject them – they didn’t even give the
patient any local anesthetic. The patient let out the most pitiful scream you could even imagine. And so, of
course, I decide, “Well, if this hurts, let me stop.” And the senior attending doctor says, “Dr. Daniels, you
cannot stop. You cannot allow the patient’s screams or cries or whatever to influence what you’re doing.
This is important. You have to do this.” I was like, “Whoa.” You know, this is medical education. This was
in the 80's. Patient rights have come a long way and now local anesthesia is used and some hospitals
even demand that doctors stop procedures if patients object.

RH: That’s very interesting. Let’s tie this in now – and by the way, we are going to get to how Dr. Daniels
came into her knowledge of natural – or better, let’s say alternative – it’s just different, let’s say, healing
modalities or methods than the allopathic medical model. But this is all very important information for
people to know, because you have to realize that the whole system is designed to get people in there
who are conformists.

And also, you were talking about before that they have these very big medical loans that they have to pay
off, so they’re willing to – even though there’s some moral issues, it’s like, “Well, I have to get these loans
paid off, otherwise my life is ruined. I’m not going to be able to make this money very likely in other fields.
So I have to get through this. I have to follow all the ways they do things, even if I don’t agree with it.” And
so I think this is very important for people to know.

But I would also like to just quickly go into this idea that – I think you said this also happened at Wharton,
at business school, that you were openly sort of recruited and maybe told promises of wealth and money
if you just would do certain things. And the way I call it is you were recruited into what people are calling
these days “the new world order” or – you know, recruited by globalists, these people who are actually
behind the medical profession and many other things, which are leading to – what they’re trying to get is a
one-world government, and that might be good and dandy, except they don’t have very good plans for the
people who are going to be in that government. Anyway, can you tell me a little bit about that, your
recruitment?

JD: Well, in medical school, again, this was a step by step by step process. And you know, if you’re the
kind of person who’s been noted to complain or to not conform, then you don’t get invited to the next step.
And the next step is to become a professor at a medical school where you enforce these standards on
students coming through. And that’s the ultimate because as a medical professor, you’re taken out of the
line of fire so you don’t have to deal with patients, with the day-to-day intensity that, say, a private practice
doctor might. You don’t have to worry about whether the insurance is going to pay you or not because
you’ve got a salary coming in. So this is an incredibly coveted type position. But you only get this position
if you endorse and support what’s already going on, and they see that you’re the kind of person who will
perpetuate what’s going on.

So if you’re the kind of doctor that’s going to tell a drug rep to not come back to your office ever again,
well, you know, you just flunked the test. And so, in business school, things were very interesting – I
majored in healthcare administration. And so, in healthcare administration, they’re very open about their
plans for the medical profession and for doctors. The plan for doctors was to eliminate them, because the
way it works is you have the insurance company throwing out the money to the hospitals and the drug

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companies. And the doctor is just the middle man – the patient, too, for that matter, but the doctor
certainly is the middle man to be eliminated.

So the plan then was to get patients to not have any allegiance to doctors, to get patients to believe that
one doctor is interchangeable with another. And this was in the early ‘80s. And so then, that’s when we
got the protocols in place. So you couldn’t even get a doctor who was going to tailor his therapy to you
because he’s having to follow a protocol or he was not going to get paid by the insurance company. And
the importance of these protocols was to make one doctor indistinguishable from another. It was not in
any way to save patient lives, because as we can see, these protocols have not saved anyone’s life.

And so, again, these were – if you were a thinking person sitting in a classroom, from a patient
perspective, you’d say, “Whoa, wait a minute. They’re going to tell my doctor that he can’t see me on
time? They’re going to tell my doctor that he can’t listen to my complaints and tailor his therapy to what
I’m complaining about?” But that’s exactly what we’re informed of. And again, there’s a self selection
process here. If it’s the kind of thing that turns your stomach, well, what are you going to do? Well, you’re
going to leave the room, you’re going to change your major, you’re going to do other things.

RH: So you had mentioned to me somehow that you were seemingly, like at Wharton, openly recruited or
told – you know, promised certain things if you sort of – I mean, was there some kind of brotherhood? I
mean – or to just explain that.

JD: Well, Wharton is much broader than medical school. Medical school, when you got there, you knew
what they were going to – that you were either in or you’re out, so to speak, in that if you conformed and
you did everything you were told, then that would make a huge, huge difference and things would go
better with you. In business school, the attitude and the atmosphere was, “You’re here, you’re in. Now,
let’s give you some tips on how to make the most advantage of this grand opportunity that you have
here.”

And in healthcare administration, it was very clear that the name of the game was to go after the doctor’s
income and appropriate that income for yourself, which is what was done in the ‘80s and ‘90s. The
HMOs, PPOs, whatever, with some very aggressive contracts, they essentially fleeced the doctors and
transferred the money to the MBAs. Now, a part of this process – what the MBAs were really getting paid
for was standardizing medical care so that all the drugs that were supposed to be prescribed and
consumed would get prescribed and consumed. And so that was basically your little niche there in the
market.

RH: I see.

JD: Yeah, handmaiden to the insurance companies, to the drug companies, or to the hospitals,
depending on which end you chose to work. But it was very clear working for the doctors on that side of
the table was not really an option.

RH: All right, okay, so we’ve got a little insight into that. Maybe some other time we can go into that back
connection more deeply. I’d also like to talk to you about, okay, so eventually you got your own medical
practice, started treating patients. You realized that some people were dying that really you thought
shouldn’t be dying. Maybe you could tell a little bit about that. And you’re telling me like a certain
percentage of people would die, and the difference between what happened there, between when you
went to an alternative method of healing than strictly just drugs. And then tell me that story where – how
you sort of got into doing the natural or alternative approach.

JD: Well, actually, I had my own little health crisis when I got pregnant with my first child. I decided that I
was so sick, I was surely going to die. And I was told in medical school that if you became a vegetarian,
that was it – you were going to die. And I’d always wanted to be a vegetarian. So I said, “You know what?

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This is the perfect time. I’m dying anyway. And I’ll become a vegetarian just before I die.” And so I
became a vegetarian, and overnight my affliction went away. It took about 26 hours.

RH: Wow.

JD: I said, “Whoa! This is good. I think I’m going to stick with this. Maybe it’s bad for everyone else, but
I’m going to stick with it for now.” And so I just felt so much better. I just felt fantastic. So then I returned to
Syracuse, bought a city block, built a medical office building, started practicing medicine. And I was very,
very proud of my education and I was very proud of my ability to memorize these protocols, to stick to
them, to keep all these drugs straight, and to fully inform my patients of their medical options.

So here I was, just, I mean, full guns ahead, practicing medicine. And I noticed that about four people a
year were dying, about four or five people a year. And I really wasn’t – it just seemed like I should be able
to do better, to be more helpful. And you know, someone died and I would call the specialist and I’d say,
“Hey, you know that patient that I sent to you a few weeks ago?” And they’d say, “Oh, yeah.” I said, “Well,
that patient’s dead now.” They’d say, “Well, did you do everything I told you?” I’d say, “Absolutely. I did
everything you told me,” and I would recite the whole thing. “Oh, well, Jennifer, don’t you worry. Patients
die. It’s just no big deal, as long as you did what you’re supposed to do.” I said, “Well, okay.” And I hung
up, but I really wasn’t happy with that.

And so what I started to do is like, “Well, golly gee, you know, this eating vegetables is really working out
for me. Maybe I’ll recommend that to patients.” And then I started educating myself more about natural
healing. And so I started giving people a choice. I said, “Look, this is the deal. Here’s a drug. It’s
recommended for you, you know, you can take the drug – that’s no problem. Or you can change your
diet, and here’s the changes I’d recommend. Or you can take some vitamins; here’s the vitamins I’d
recommend. Or you can take some herbs. Or, you know, whatever combination you want. What do you
think?”

And from the day I started doing that, the death rate went to zero. I mean, absolutely zero. I mean, if a
person was going to die, it was usually someone who came from another practice and said, “Dr. Daniels, I
have cancer, I know I’m dying. In fact, I’d like to die. And I understand that you’ll let me die and you won’t
order any fancy tests if I don’t want them.” And I said, “Yeah, that’s true.” So yeah, there were those
patients, but there were no 50-somethings who rolled into the emergency room and died of heart attack,
or – you know, there were no mysterious, unanticipated deaths. And when that happened, I was
absolutely stunned. Because I would keep track.

Because as a doctor, I’d get invited to the weddings, the funerals, you know. And I’d found I was going to
way too many funerals and not enough weddings, so I changed up and give them all these choices. I
didn’t even force it on them. I didn’t even say, “You can’t take drugs.” I would say, “Hey, here’s the deal.
It’s your choice.” Not once did the patients make a lethal decision. And I really got a lot of respect for
patients from that, because you know what? It’s their life. I’m going to let them decide. And no matter
what they decide – some people would decide drugs, some people would decide no drugs, some people
would decide they wanted to change their diet, use vitamins or herbs – and for me, that was a serious
eye-opener. I’m like, “Oh, my God. Could it be that that stuff I was taught in medical school is inherently
deadly? That it’s dangerous, it causes death?” And this is coming now that it’s well known. Again, the
industry’s own statistics from hospitalized patients who received drugs prescribed according to protocol,
and these protocols, of course, being written by drug companies.

RH: So, can you tell me now, also quickly, about that story about that patient you had – was he the one
who had the lupus?

JD: People would come to me with lupus, and using natural methods exclusively, they would get off their
prednisone, their antidepressants, the whole ball of wax, and they could actually go back to working every

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day and being on time and taking up hobbies like sports, and one guy started running marathons. In
fact—

RH: That’s actually the story I wanted to hear from you.

JD: Well, I had a family practice – that’s what I did. And so I started taking this newfangled insurance
and this man comes in with his wife and he says, “We want two complete physicals.” I said, “Okay,” and
did a complete physical on him. And of course, things were not checking out here. He had bald spots,
bright red shiny spots. He was very squirrelly and nervous.

Of course, he had lupus, he was on prednisone, he was on antidepressants, and he wasn’t really that
coherent. And so I called his specialist and said, “Hey, you know, your patient’s here. I’m his new primary
care doctor and I just want to touch base with you and see kind of what your plan is for him so I could
stick with that plan and send him back to you whenever you thought you needed to see him.” So he told
me whatever he should want to tell me. And so I said to the patient, “Well, you know, I’m family practice.
I’m not a rheumatologist, I’m not a specialist. You know, this is not really my expertise.” He said, “I don’t
care. I’ve been to the specialists. They’ve been treating me for years. I feel absolutely lousy. I’m going to
give you a try. I’m going to do whatever you tell me to do.”

So the first couple of visits, I just stuck with the rheumatologist’s plan. But the problem was, the patient
was having emergencies and every day he’d rush into my office from work, you know, because he was
freaking out or whatever. And I’m like, “This is not working. It’s not working for him and it’s definitely not
working for me.” So I talked to him, “You want to try something natural? You think – let’s give this a try.”
He said, “Well, okay.” So I told him what to eat, what not to eat, recommended some vitamins – really
minimal vitamins, just the ones that people tend to have deficiencies in, like B12, folic acid, whatever –
nothing heavy. And so he did what he was supposed to do. Then I recommended some anti-parasite stuff
and recommended that he have more bowel movements. It took about five months.

And at the end of five months, he was off all of his prednisone. He was off all of his pills. And his
attendance record at work was perfect. And life was good and he started training for his marathon. What
he always wanted to do was run a marathon. And so every time I’d see him, he’d say, “Well, doc, I’m
going to run that 7K marathon.” Of course, he had Lupus Cerebritis. That means that his brain is affected
by Lupus and his thinking is not clear. So I started – obviously he had lupus and of course, would never
run a marathon. But, I’d humor him and say, “Yes, Mr. Jones, of course you’re going to run that 7K race.”
And darned if he didn’t do it. And he ran the 7K race. He finished it. He ran every single year. And one
year, he saw his rheumatologist who was also running the 7K race. And he said hello to the
rheumatologist. The Rheumatilogist was shocked. He said, “Oh, my gosh, how are you doing so much
better?” The patient said, “Well, I’m just seeing Dr. Daniels.”

So yeah, so – and that’s really when I started applying natural healing to identifiable diseases, like
hypertension and diabetes. In fact, my license actually was suspended and then I surrendered it, when I
applied diet to a diabetic and he got better with diet and exercise and no drugs. But I started with
identifiable diseases, and then people started coming to me with – I would call them unidentifiable
diseases. By that I mean these are diseases that the medical profession did not recognize as a disease.

For example, fibromyalgia – that was not recognized as a disease when I started in practice in 1990. But
people started coming to me with fibromyalgia, with Candida, and most recently, electromagnetic
sensitivity. And so Candida is not something recognized by the medical profession. Of course, being an
observant student, I noticed that whenever somebody was admitted to the hospital for whatever infection
and put on antibiotics, and especially when they were in the intensive care unit, whenever you did a blood
test, you always cultured out Candida. So it seemed to me that obviously Candida existed as an infection
in the blood and throughout the body.

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And so of course, I scratched my head and wondered how come we don’t have this syndrome described?
Because these patients were living – and a couple of them actually got out of the intensive care unit into
what we called the step-down unit and then chronic care. And so I was thinking to myself, why don’t we
have some type of recognition of this and why don’t we have a treatment for it? And this was the dark
ages, before they had pills for yeast or for fungus. And now we have pills for Candida, but these pills
destroy the liver and create other side effects and lifestyle issues, and also there’s resistance.

So that was my first encounter, again, with working with identifiable diseases that were recognized, and
then I started working with diseases that were not recognized by the medical profession. In other words,
the patient would just say, “Hey, I’ve got pain all over,” or “Hey, I have brain fog” – which, of course, I’d
never heard that term in medical school, brain fog. The patient had to sit down and explain it to me. I said,
“Well, what do you mean by brain fog?”

And so even though these things were never taught or even mentioned in medical school, these were
complaints people came to me with because they had heard that I had gotten people better from diseases
that they thought were incurable. And a lot of people complain that doctors are insensitive, they don’t
listen, they don’t believe the patient. But the real deal is this. In medical school, we are taught that
information is very important; it’s important to get accurate information. And there’s only two or three
sources of accurate information. One is continuing medical education classes. Two is drug company
literature. And three is medical journals and books. That’s it.

So the patient is not a source of reliable information. So the patient comes and tells you, “I have brain
fog.” So you look in your book. Is brain fog in there? No. you look in the articles. Is there an article in the
New England Journal of Medicine that talks about brain fog? No. Well, obviously then the patient does not
have brain fog. The patient is simply someone who’s starving for personal attention and is coming to your
office for a social visit. And this is what we’re taught in medical school.

RH: Wow. So this is all fascinating. So let’s get into how you sort of – your sort of roundabout way of
discovering this Candida cure, which also happens to be a very similar protocol for a lot of different
diseases. Like, what are some of the other – with a similar kind of healing method – well, not exactly the
same – what are some of the other kinds of conditions that you’ve had success with, with this method that
we’ll talk about sort of how you discovered it, in a minute?

JD: Arthritis, severe osteoarthritis, where they have incredible pain – just unbearable and affecting many
joints. And that to me was a real eye-opener, because with conventional methods, I just did not have
success with the osteoarthritis. Then with the lupus; that was another shocker. Then there was
rheumatoid arthritis. Then multiple sclerosis.

RH: Wow.

JD: And then I said – well, then, when these individuals started improving with this miracle cure, I said,
“Whoa, let me back up here. Let me see if it helps hypertension.” So I would ask the hypertensive
patients, “Hey, you know what? This is not something I learned in medical school. I think it might benefit
you, and I think you should give it a try, because we’ve got you on quite a few medicines here and here
you’re having a few side effects. Why don’t we try this and see if it helps?” People with systolic blood
pressure – that’s the top number – would drop by 30 points. That’s a lot. They okay a medicine as high
blood pressure therapy when it drops the top number by five points.

RH: So that’s huge.

JD: It’s huge! Yeah, it was way huge. And then, you can imagine me as a doctor, I’m dealing with these
blood pressure medicines that would give them a five-point drop, and I have a patient whose blood
pressure is 60 points above normal. We’re talking about 12 drugs. Or we’re talking about using fewer
drugs and pushing the dose limit so high that the person’s quality of life just stinks. And so, to me, using

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this miracle cure, either instead of or alongside the medications, meant that I could take this person with
severe hypertension and I could give them fewer drugs at a lower dose, and I didn’t get phone calls about
side effects. They’re happy, I’m happy, and that was a big deal to my practice, me being able to sleep
through the night. I mean, I knew that when I went home at 5:00 or 6:00pm, that was it; I was home for
the night. And that was huge. And so discovering this miracle cure just totally transformed my life and the
patients, of course – they actually felt better and they could go on and live their lives and do the things
that were important to them.

RH: And what were some of the other things that you were able to cure with a similar method?

JD: Well, those were the biggies. But boils, you know, a lot of people had boils that would keep coming
and nobody would get rid of them, and they would give them antibiotic after antibiotic after antibiotic. It
was just incredibly, incredibly useful.

RH: And what about, you said also, just in general, it’s just great for any kind of autoimmune disease,
correct?

JD: Right, right. I found that it really helped with autoimmune diseases. And so that was just wonderful
because treating people who have autoimmune diseases was very, very frustrating because you just
really wish you could do more for them, you know? You know they’re suffering, you know they’re
miserable, but your medical education just doesn’t really extend to helping them. With the relief provided
by the Candida Cleaner, they can live their life as it was before the disease took hold.

RH: And you also said – wasn’t this also good for prostate problems, also?

JD: Yes. In fact, even prostate cancer. And I’d also use it for pneumonia.

RH: Pneumonia, that’s right.

JD: Yeah, as you can imagine, people would come to me who wanted things their way – you know, hold
the mayo, hold the lettuce, special orders don’t upset us. So I had older people come in the office and
obviously they had pneumonia. And I’d say, “Look, you’ve got pneumonia. You can either go in the
hospital or you can make a little tweak to your diet and take this miracle cure. What do you want to do?”
And there were patients who would pick the miracle cure and the diet and their pneumonia would clear up
very nicely in two or three days, just fine. And so this gave my patients an incredible amount of freedom.

Also, I had stopped accepting Medicare because Medicare was paying me about $9 a visit. So, say it’s a
$70 office visit, Medicare is paying me $9. And it also took my front desk about 30 minutes to figure out
how to properly enter the Medicare payment in the computer in a way that would be pleasing to Medicare.
So this is like really a lot of work. So I stopped taking Medicare. Man doctors did this so the government
created a form of Medicare where the patient could actually come and see a doctor and pay the doctor
independently. And so there were actually patients who did this, so they could get any doc they wanted.

RH: Okay, Dr. Daniels, can you tell me a little more about these undocumented conditions that the
medical profession just simply didn’t even recognize? And how that actually relates to the insurance
companies and how they would get paid or not get paid?

JD: Yes. There’s a book called ICDM-9, and this is a book that literally gives every single recognized
disease a number. It’s a very complicated number system. But only if a doctor can find the disease in this
book and find the number or code corresponding to that disease can a doctor actually get paid for
rendering a service. So a patient comes in and says, “Well, I have Candida syndrome. I’ve got Candida
all over my body.” Well, that’s not something that’s in the ICD-9 book in the list of outpatient diagnoses.
Or a patient might say, “I have electromagnetic sensitivity.” Well, this is not in the ICD-9 book. And so if a
doctor acknowledges that you have that disease and writes down that that is what your complaint is and

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that is why he is providing care for you, then he cannot be compensated for that care by any insurance
company and the cost of that visit cannot count toward your deductible.

RH: Wow, that’s weird.

JD: So this is one reason why patients are often unable to either, a) get the doctor to acknowledge their
disease, because if he acknowledges their disease then he doesn’t get paid, or if he does acknowledge
their disease, then he is not able to provide them care relevant to that disease.

RH: Okay. So—

JD: Which makes it really tough for people.

RH: So why don’t we get into a little of how you – I’m not sure – I want to discuss how you came about –
how you sort of discovered this Candida cure.

JD: Yes. The first thing that happened was – as I mentioned before, I was helping people with regular
diseases that did appear in the textbook. And then people started coming in with diseases that were not
in the textbook. And I would give them my usual holistic program of adjusting their diet, having them do
enemas, increasing their water intake, increasing the amount of bowel movements they have, doing all
these things. And people would get better, but they wouldn’t get like 100%. Maybe they would get 70%
better or 90% better. I mean, they were absolutely thrilled. They were very happy because they just had
never had anything near that amount of relief. But I felt – it seemed to me that there should be some way
to return them to the condition they were in before they got sick, number one, and number two, if they
followed all my instructions and they got this improvement, they would easily relapse if something went
wrong. And that concerned me.

So I was looking for some way to help people get a more complete resolution of their situation, number
one, and number two, a way of making relapses less likely and less frequent. So I really focused on doing
that. And the coincidence at the same time that I was homeschooling my children, and part of
homeschooling the kids is you have to read stuff along with them. And so I started reading about history
and reading historic accounts where they mentioned something that people would take twice a year that
cured absolutely everything, cured everything without question. And I was like, “Wow, that’s really neat.”

Well, I know it’s not a pharmaceutical drug because this is like really a long time ago, back in the 1800’s. I
said, “Man, it cures everything. I’ve got to find out what that is.” And of course, it was a natural substance
and it was used by some very poor people, like rural farmers and stuff. So I said, “Well, I’m going to find
that cure.” By this time, I was pretty much over the top. I had hundreds of books on natural healing and
I’m like, “Okay, I’m going to look through these books. I’m looking for something that’s really cheap and
cures everything.” Not in any one of my several hundred books did I find a reference to something that
cured everything. Then I said, “Okay, I’m going to take a look in the literature. I’ll look in the medical
literature.” And I looked – I was constantly going to the medical school library to look up one thing or
another because there were a lot of things, of course, I was very curious about.

Well, I went to the medical school library and looked there. I looked in journals and magazines. This was
pre-internet, so it was tough to get too far a reach, so to speak. But I couldn’t find anything. And so I
started nosing around, and I finally decided, since I couldn’t find the answer in the literature and I couldn’t
find the answer in the books, maybe some people who’d been alive in the 1800’s might know. And of
course, this was 1995, so I pretty much reaching the natural limit of finding someone who was alive in the
1800’s. But I figured that these people must have had children or grandchildren would know. And so I
started nosing around, and I finally found some people who had relatives that were alive in the 1800’s and
they shared the cure with me. But it was an exhaustive process.

RH: Okay, yeah. So I remember you told me you were asking your patients for a while and—

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JD: Yes.

RH: No one knew anything about what you were talking about. But eventually they started saying, “Oh
yeah, you must be talking about this.”

JD: Yeah, “My grandmother, she used to use that stuff.” And I said, “Well, what stuff?” And they told me
and I said, “Really?” And I said, “Well, I guess your grandmother’s dead now.” “No, no, no, she’s 90 years
old, still using that stuff.” I said, “Well, are you using it?” “No, I wouldn’t touch it.” I said, “Oh, interesting.”
And so it is something that’s very common, hiding in plain view, as they say. And even personally, I had
to say, “Well, I’m taking my life into my own hands here, and I might die and I might not.” So I personally
tried it out myself. And even though I was very healthy, I started feeling better. I said, “Well, this is
interesting.”

And so I got people – you know, relatives who I knew had problems where they weren’t totally healthy,
and I got them to try it. And they got wonderful results. And then I started offering it to my patients, but I
only offered it to people who were really ill, who had a condition that wasn’t improved by any medical
intervention; things that modern medicine just didn’t have any cure for. So I started doing that, and then
those people got better. I said, “Wow, that’s interesting.”

And then people started showing up with these diseases that were – I call them unrecognized diseases,
disease that just medically – the medical profession just didn’t even recognize that they existed. And this
was really the dark ages. Fibromyalgia wasn’t recognized; it was considered a neurotic disease of
suburban housewives, not a real medical thing. So that this was during those times, and so this cure even
worked for fibromyalgia. And then, of course, people started coming in and saying, “Doctor, I have brain
fog.” And I said, “Oh, what’s that?” “ I’m in a fog all the time.” I said, “You know what? I think I have
something that might help you. And you know, we didn’t cover this in medical school, but I think this will
help you.” And people were absolutely thrilled that they were able to focus or to concentrate, and it felt
like the brain fog lifted.

So that was just so, so exciting. And then, of course, the Candidiasis, you know. That lifted. And it was
just so encouraging to see people get better. Now, this is all nice and dandy, but it turned out there was
actually a profile of the kind of person that would benefit and the kind of person that would not benefit.
First of all, Candida, it turns out, is prolific. You know, they have babies and they propagate. And you’ve
got to remove the Candida from your system at a faster rate than what they’re reproducing. And by your
system I mean literally the intestines. And so this meant I would have to sit down with these people and
say, “Hey, you need to have three bowel movements a day or even more.” And a lot of people weren’t
willing to do that. And some people couldn’t because of their job or whatever. But having three bowel
movements a day is a definite must. You cannot cure Candida if you’re leaving the Candida in your
system.

Now, typically, not everyone has three bowel movements a day; they can do enemas instead. I don’t
really recommend colonics because the colon has to do a lot of reabsorption in the first ascending and
transverse portion, and the colonics would remove the contents of the whole colon, and remove a lot of
stuff that the body would be better of reabsorbing, like the water and various enzymes. Then, of course,
you have to change your diet. Everyone says, “Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I follow a diet for Candida.” And
when you get your document, your PDF about the Candida Cure, you’ll get detailed information about the
diet that I recommend.

Many people failed to improve because they ate their granola, power bars, rice milk, rice cakes, and they
switched from processed regular food to processed health food. The processed health food is not a whole
lot healthier than processed regular food. And so people really had to kind of look in the mirror and say,
“Yeah, I’m going to do it. I’m really going to drop all of the food in my diet that Candida loves to eat.”
Because that is another thing people had to do, and not everyone’s willing to do that. Next, they had to

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drink water. They had to drink enough water so that the immune system could function. It could literally
liquefy and dissolve and mobilize the Candida to help it leave the organs, the brain, and the circulation in
the body. So one big issue of people who’d been suffering from Candida for years and years and years is
that the Candida has literally become encrusted. And you’ve just got to start hydrating the body so these
encrustations of Candida can get loosened up and your immune system can mobilize them and make
them leave your body. And finally—

RH: Can I jump in here for a second?

JD: Yes.

RH: One thing that might concern people, you’re not saying, in terms of diet – like for instance, some
people might think, “Oh, I can’t eat fruit,” because so they’re so afraid of eating sugar. But you’re not
saying that, right?

JD: No, I’m not saying that. I personally limit people’s fruit anyway to like one or two pieces a day, you
know, while they’re trying to get a handle on things. But somebody who’s eating a 100% fruit diet or a
really sugary fruit like, say, grapes, as opposed to an apple, well, that grape eater may have a few more
issues. But the truth of the matter is, once the person gets going on a diet that’s clean, free of processed
food, and they start drinking water and having frequent bowel movements, then the fruit is not that big an
issue.

RH: Yeah, because I’ve – you know, I had Candida, which was to me came because I was eating not just
fruit, but I was eating a very high-fat raw diet at the same time.

JD: Exactly.

RH: And so when I went to just eating fruit, you know, most of the symptoms cleared up almost within a
week. And so I think as long as you’re eating fresh fruit, watery fruit, more than likely – and you’re not
eating extremely high-fat – I think more than likely, your other part of your miracle cure and the other
steps will help them to go the rest of the way and really get rid of the problem.

JD: Exactly. And a person’s got to have just an attitude that they’re just full of Candida. They’re through
with yeast and that they’re willing to take some responsibility for their own healing, because when you
suffer from something as potentially devastating as Candida, sometimes you can slip into the mentality
where you’ve been victimized, this is not fair this horrible thing has happened to you. While all of those
things may be true, the other truth is that you are the most important ingredient in your cure, in terms of
taking action. And I know some of you might purchase this cure, read it, and say, “Whoa, I can’t do that.
I’m not going to do that.” But you know, sometimes in life you just have to say, “You know what? This is
it.”

And I can tell you the story of this patient that came to me with Candida, and she was very, very upset
because she had spent a lot of money and had been to a lot of doctors and had tried a lot of drugs and
had been given a lot of tests, and she still had it. And so she came to my office and she was literally
waving this book, almost like a weapon. And the name of the book was The Yeast Connection. And she
came with me to the exam room and I carefully took the book from her hand and told her thank you and I
put the book on the counter and showed her a seat. And she told me all about Candida and how it had
ruined her life, and that she didn’t even want to talk to me unless I was a Candida yeast expert.

And so, you know, whenever something like that happens, I feel honesty is the best policy, because was
not a yeast or Candida expert at the time. I told her, " I really can’t claim that expertise. But I do think I
can be of help to you". She said, “Well, how?” And so I told her. I told her the diet to follow, some changes
I wanted her to make to her diet. And then I told her what the cure was. And she said, “You’ve got to be
kidding.” I said, “No, no, that’s the cure. You’ve spend a lot of money, traveled a long way to see me, and

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I’m just telling you what I know and I think this will be helpful to you.” And she said, “You know what? I am
so upset, I am so done out, I’m so ticked off, I’ll even do that.”

She went ahead and did it, came back in two weeks – because it takes at least a week for people to get
through steps 1 through 4 of the Candida protocol. And only after they’ve done that is it okay for them to
use this candida cleaner, step 5. So she did all of that, which took her about a week. Then she used the
cure. She took only two doses. And she came back on a follow-up visit – I wanted to check and make
sure she was doing okay. She came back and I said, “Well, how’s your yeast going?” She said, “What
yeast? I don’t have any yeast. I’m cured. I’m done with that. I don’t have any problems.”

So yeah, I was already to get into it with her and discuss it and commiserate and tweak and adjust her
program, and she says, “No, that’s fine.” So you can see it’s pretty dramatic. Again, you do have to follow
instructions, and when you get your PDF, it’ll tell you exactly what the steps are, exactly how to follow
them. You know, I go over some things that some people messed up on so you don’t do the same thing.
And you can get very, very good results. Be sure to read the FAQ section of the PDF.

RH: So what percentage of people with Candida even – I mean, I’ve been getting so many emails from
people, some of these people having Candida problems a few years, ten years, 15 years, 25 years, 45
years, their whole lives. A lot of people are suffering with this, and most of those people have tried so-
called everything in the book. I’ve read over 320 – no, over 330 different emails from people, and none of
them who mentioned all the things they’ve tried knew anything about what you’re recommending. So, so
far, out of all of those people, nobody knows.

JD: Exactly, that’s because it’s really highly, highly highly censored. An act of Congress in 1966 officially
outlawed its sale for theraputic use. You know, this is a really effective cure for sure. And so I think that
might be the reason. And also, when we had compulsory education in this country that separated young
people from their parents and their grandparents, and so this cure is not passed down. And I think many
parents and grandparents were embarrassed to talk about it because it’s considered to be backward and
not modern. And they wanted their children to be modern, to be educated, to be up-to-date. And everyone
had this false sense of security that modern medicine, as it was evolving, had all the answers, and they
didn’t want to cloud their children’s consciousness or database with all this nonsense home remedy stuff.

RH: Yeah, I could imagine. Back then, you know, probably medicine was advertised so well and people
actually thought it worked back then and—

JD: The greatest potential.

RH: We’re in a very different state now. Most people know that, for the most part, medicine just doesn’t
work, or they soon enough find out. So let’s talk about this. Okay, so we know that for many Candida
sufferers, they’ve been suffering with it for years and years, and just can’t seem to get rid of it completely.
Sometimes they get improvements. A lot of times they take medicines that give them horrible side effects
and give them other injuries and stuff. So let’s talk about – okay, you know, some people are like, “Well,
I’m skeptical. I want to believe but I’ve tried so many things.” So what do you honestly think is going to be
the percentage of success of people who have Candida? And also, you can talk about people who also
have multiple conditions. What do you expect the healing rate to be out of ten people?

JD: Out of ten people, if they all follow the step-by-step, Step 1, do this, Step 2, do this, and so on, and
then finally use the miracle cure, I think 100% of people will experience dramatic improvement. Now I say
100% of people who actually do that will get dramatic improvement. Now, who’s not going to get complete
improvement? That person who has multiple conditions, that person who has maybe diabetes,
hypertension, and arthritis, in addition to their yeast symptoms, now that person’s probably going to take
longer but will experience improvement from day to day. you know. In my practice, people generally came
to see me that had only been suffering for maybe five years or something like that. So I was a pretty

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young doctor, and so back then, again, the word had to get around that, okay, is this doctor curing
rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and arthritis, and then the Candida people said, “Hey, wait, maybe she can
help me.”

RH: All right.

JD: But the key is in many chronic conditions, you can’t count on your body to tackle the one that you
think is most important. If you have a yeast type syndrome, your body might think that the arthritis is more
important, and that’ll clear up first, and then the yeast symptoms will clear up. So you have to be open to
your body deciding what it wants to do first.

RH: Okay, makes sense. I know that’s the same thing that happened to me with going raw the body just
sort of has its own way of doing things, and sometimes you’re eating raw and you’re expecting to get all
sorts of energy, but the reason you don’t is because your body is taking an opportunity to start healing
itself because finally it’s got some good building materials, and so it’s doing its own thing, clearing out
your lungs or doing whatever, and it could take a while before you feel as good as you want to feel
because you’ve got to do some repairs first.

JD: Someone who comes in with a list of 20 problems and, you know, after a lot of years of experience, I
now tell them, “Look, I can help you get better but I can’t guarantee you which problem your body’s going
to tackle first.” Or, “I recognize your list of 20 things and it sounds to me like someone else’s list that I’ve
seen heal.” I can tell them, “Look, your body might want to proceed in this particular order; that’s what
I’ve seen before. And is that okay with you?” And then sometimes, it’s actually possible to redirect the
body to get it to take things kind of out of order, so to speak. In the area of Candida, that’s not really the
case, I don’t think, because Candida is everywhere. You know, it’s throughout the blood, it’s throughout
the muscles, throughout everything. And so we have to trust the body to decide whether it wants to clear
out the blood first or clear out the muscles first or clear out the joints first. Now, I think that’s really
important for people to understand, that if you’ve got a long list, then your body may not start where you
want it to start. But with this miracle cure, it will get started and you will notice.

RH: Okay. So let’s talk a little about – you know, basically we’ve put together this. This is – I’m just doing
the interviewing and getting the information. But we’ve put together all the information you need to cure,
to get rid of your Candida. And for many people, it can be done – if you don’t have any extra
complications, it could be done in as little as a week with just two treatments, assuming you’re following
the other steps, diet-wise and so on and so forth, and getting enough bowel movements and so on. And I
don’t think what you said – personally for me – what you said is very restrictive as far as what the diet
thing is. Maybe for some people who are eating absolutely horrible diets. I guess for me, because I eat
such a strict diet as it is, it just seems like nothing. So I just want to let people to know – it’s not super-
difficult to do.

JD: Well, the other thing is the way I coach it is I tell you exactly what you can eat, so I don’t give you a
list of what you cannot eat; I give you a list of what you can eat. And if you stick with that list, you’re really
okay. Now, what I found, again, since I had a practice where the insurance company wouldn’t pay me for
taking care of these undocumented, unrecognized diseases, so people had to pay me themselves. So
that meant what? These people who came to see me had more disposable income, and I’d give them this
restrictive list, I’d see them back, and you know, they’re into the granola and they’re into the power bars,
and I’d say, “Whoa, what’s up here?” And they’d say, “Well, I was at the health food store.” I’d say, “Well,
wait a minute. Not everything at the health food store is healthy.”And they were like totally shocked. “Oh,
no, Doctor!”

So you have to understand that not everything at the health food store is healthy, but processed is just
that – processed food. And it’s the yeastie beasties – it’s just their favorite food. So you’ll get direction
there and you’ll get a list of things that seem to work. And you don’t have to have a diet totally free of all
carbs and it doesn’t need to be all that. You just need to clean up your diet, add some water. And really,

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all you’re doing is making it easy for your immune system to do its job. Once you’ve made it real easy for
your immune system to do its job, then you’re ready for the miracle cure, which is going to take things up
a notch. And when it takes things up a notch, that means your immune system’s got to be ready, too.
Your immune system’s going to say, “Whoa, all this yeast is ready to leave. I’d better give it an escort.”

RH: And yeah, so then you’ll be able to take care of it if you do that. This is powerful stuff.

JD: Yeah, that’s what I say. A lot of people with like yeast problems, their issue is they get these die-off
reactions. And that’s the awful thing. And when I didn’t really understand the whole process, I would try to
help people and they would get like a die-off reaction, which is uncomfortable. And then that’s it – they
don’t want to hear any more of what you have to say, once they have one of those things. But that’s the
whole purpose of doing all this stuff before you use the miracle cure, preparing your body, so that means
you don’t get the die-off reaction. Also, the doses that you’re going to get for the miracle cure, it’s going to
seem like not a lot. It’s not a lot, but it works. So don’t increase the dose, don’t try and go quicker or
faster, because again, you’re going to run into a die-off reaction. You don’t want that. So this is something
that I have a lot of experience with and I’ve arranged it so that it’s pretty comfortable.

RH: Yeah, that’s a nice factor. So it’s not – they’re not going through horrible pain and they can continue
working or living their lives and get over this.

JD: Right.

RH: And so, what I want people to know is that we’re going to have this program, and one of the bonuses
that we’re going to give is that anyone who gets this program who also – if they need more help, you’ll be
able to take 30% of one of Dr. Daniels’ – up to an hour of Dr. Daniels’ consultation. You can get either –
the lowest increment of time you could get her for would be 15 minutes – you know, 15 minutes, half
hour, 45 minutes, or up to an hour. And so when you get this program, we’ll give you a 30% discount on
whichever increment of time you want to take, assuming that you want to take it, if you need more
clarification – which is good. I mean, her current – as far as I know, your current consultation rate is $797
an hour, correct?

JD: Yes.

RH: So we’ll give you a 30% coupon off of that. And of course, you can consult to her, I guess, about
Candida or any related issue, as well, assuming that you’re the customer and you actually bought the
program. So all right, I think we’ve given everybody a pretty good idea of what this is all about. We’ll be
updating you, getting you information as soon as we have the program ready, up and ready to buy.

RH: Okay, great. So you can take it from there. Was there anything else that you wanted to add about the
program? By the way, we are going to have a 30-day money back guarantee, so there’s absolutely no
risk. If you feel that, for whatever reason, this is just not quite right for you, or you realize afterwards that
you’re not willing to make some of the changes, you have 30 days to try it out and get a no-questions-
asked money back guarantee. So, was there anything else you wanted to add?

JD: Well, as I was saying, this is really a major breakthrough for my patients. It has just totally changed
their lives. Many people had brain fog so bad that they thought they were going to have to quit their job or
get fired. And after using this and testing it, they’re able to continue with their job and continue with –
even with their family life. So it’s really a major breakthrough. The other thing I might say is just stay
focused and take those steps one step at a time. Make sure you stay focused on each step and do it.
When finally you take the miracle cure, it’ll be a great experience.

RH: By the way, how many steps were there in this program?

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JD: A total of five, with the fifth step being the miracle cure itself. So the first four steps are preparing
yourself for the miracle cure so that you don’t have any die-off issues or reactions or anything like that.
And then the fifth step is the miracle cure.

RH: Okay. Well, I really appreciate your taking the time to do the interview here. You’ve revealed just
some incredible information. It seems to me that I’d be very wary about going to the doctor after what I’ve
heard from you and how the whole – basically the drug companies are running the medical profession
and it’s all basically about money and not about people’s lives.

JD: They’re not running it; they created it. The medical profession is the distribution and marketing arm of
the drug companies.

RH: Yes. And that’s what people don’t realize. They actually created it, starting with funding from
Rockefeller – anyway, that’s a whole long story. So okay, I guess that’s it. We want to – if you didn’t
know where to go, I believe we’re going to be putting up a page at my website where we’re going to give
you more information about this. So when that’s up and running, you can go here. So I’ll tell you where to
go. You can go to www.Candida.RogerHaeske.com. So I’ll spell that out for you. You can go to
www.Candida.RogerHaeske.com. So, again, it’s www.Candida.RogerHaeske.com. And we hope to have
that up very soon because I know a lot of you have been suffering. I had Candida for quite a while; I
struggled with it myself. It’s not such an easy thing sometimes to get rid of. So I want to thank you for
taking the time to listen. And Dr. Daniels, I think we’re going to be doing some more interviews with you.
And I know you’re coming out in the near future also with other products dealing with how to cure other
specific conditions, like IBS and arthritis, and so on and so forth.

JD: Exactly, and lupus, that’s right.

RH: You know, things that are considered incurable by the medical profession and even many alternative
treatments just don’t seem to work. You seem to have a handle on it. And so this is really, as far as I’m
concerned, breakthrough, monumental kind of stuff. And it could really just improve the health of a lot of
people, and therefore, improve your health, you have more energy, you can earn more money. I mean,
I’ve met some people who had Candida who couldn’t even work. They’re almost stuck in bed almost the
whole day. I mean, it can be really bad.

JD: Absolutely

RH: So we’re hoping that this will be your solution. So thanks so much, Dr. Daniels, and we’ll talk to you
soon.

JD: You’re welcome.

RH: And thanks, everybody, for listening. Take care, have a great day.

To your radiant health, this is,

Roger Haeske,
the 42-year-old teenager.

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