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erick.mattos Posted: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:56:08 PM
Rank: Copper Hi to all!! :)
Joined: 10/28/2008 Later follows a link to a document available on specialized website in document storage.
Posts: 5 I ask you humbly to know it and to spread it to all responsible personnel able to deal with its acceptance by government, markets,
Location: Brazil banks, financial institutions, etc..
I ask you the gentleness of widespreading it indiscriminately to all people by any media too, since its use could be employed in diverse
layers of our society.
I clarify that the utilization of the informations contained on it has as goals the public wealth, financial justice and the social adjustment
of the economic power.
Its use should be extended globally to anyone interested.
http://www.scribd.com/full/6968820?access_key=key8k3fzu5k3xmacmwueg8
Best regards,
Erick Mattos <erick.mattos@gmail.com>.
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Hattaresguy Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:21:40 AM
Rank: Rhodium This post reads just like a Nigeran spam email! Thats cool I didn't know they moved to South America, learn a new thing every day!
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Silicon_Chippy Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:54:44 AM
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This post reads just like a Nigeran spam email!
I thought that may be the case when I first read the post, but I have checked the link and there is no selling at all. If you haven't
checked it, it's all about interest rates.
Chris
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erick.mattos Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:37:37 PM
Rank: Copper Hattaresguy wrote:
This post reads just like a Nigeran spam email! Thats cool I didn't know they moved to South America, learn a new
Joined: 10/28/2008
thing every day!
Posts: 5
Location: Brazil
It's funny, isn't it? It's easier to believe in a very weird malicious activity than that this is a real message!
It is a real message and it pretends to explain everything!
Anyway if someone needs more informations please let me know. I would be glad to explain it more meticulously.
Thanks to all the effort to analyze my system.
Best regards to all.
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Silicon_Chippy Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:32:18 PM
erick,
That's forums for you, some people just accuse you sometimes when your motives are good.
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erick.mattos Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:05:10 PM
Rank: Copper Hi folks,
Joined: 10/28/2008 The Scribd website let the document be downloaded in PDF directly on the following address:
Posts: 5 http://www.scribd.com/document_downloads/6968820?extension=pdf&secret_password=
Location: Brazil
The only "but" is that this function is allowed only after you register and do log in.
Another option for those who are having problem with the visualization on the browser.
Regards,
Erick.
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Hattaresguy Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:01:38 AM
Rank: Rhodium Well your English sure improved in your follow up posts.
Joined: 5/29/2006 I never said the link wasn't any good.
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Andrew63 Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:44:43 PM
Rank: Platinum erick.mattos wrote:
Anyway if someone needs more informations please let me know. I would be glad to explain it more meticulously.
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Thanks to all the effort to analyze my system.
Location: Per capita foreclosure
capital of the world
Best regards to all.
It's not that hard to understand.
1. Start from a constant amortization system (Table 1).
2. Treat each element as an independent entity. In other words, each payment becomes a zero coupon bond at simple interest.
3. Determine a constant 'interest' payment so that the monthly payment is therefore constant.
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erick.mattos Posted: Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:08:55 PM
Rank: Copper Andrew63 wrote:
erick.mattos wrote:
Joined: 10/28/2008
Posts: 5 Anyway if someone needs more informations please let me know. I would be glad to explain it more
Location: Brazil meticulously.
Thanks to all the effort to analyze my system.
Best regards to all.
It's not that hard to understand.
1. Start from a constant amortization system (Table 1).
2. Treat each element as an independent entity. In other words, each payment becomes a zero coupon bond at simple
interest.
3. Determine a constant 'interest' payment so that the monthly payment is therefore constant.
You made a simplification but with some mistakes:
1. This system is an amortization system composed by a method and two main tables. One regular and one made to build a constant
payment and constant amortization. I only use Table 1 (CAS) to make a comparison and to develop my argumentations.
2. Number 2 is correct but number 3 is more or less correct.
Andrew63 wrote:
This is an intriguing idea;
Yes, indeed.
Andrew63 wrote:
however, in step three you are simply pre paying interest in order to ...
You are talking ONLY about Table 3 (Mattos Fix System) and making too much calculation. It is not that way on this table: the interest
is calculated once for the whole system and paid in parts. It's a way of having constant payment and amortization.
Its correctness is for the WHOLE system. I have written on the document that ANY change of variables would take us to a
recalculation.
Andrew63 wrote:
Let's extend this logic to a 30 year mortgage. I do not know about Brazil, but in the U.S., a family moves (buys a
different home) about every seven years. What this would have the effect of doing would be to front load the interest
at HIGHER rates. Over the full course of the loan, it's not a huge consequence, but at the front end, not so good.
As I already told you and as written on the document: any change to the Mattos Fix table would make necessary the recalculation but
any delay.
A simple delay is calculated easily just making an interest calculation over the period delayed and the amortization part in delay.
Any other change as refinancing or whatever take us to sum the interest paid to this point in time. Then, after the comparison of
interest due and paid, another table can be created.
Andrew63 wrote:
An additional question to ask would be to compare this to a fixed payment / constant interest system. As it stands,
your analysis is incomplete.
This is done on the first page of the document when I did CAS Table which is already very well compared to other systems. And this is
an essay base to show the similarity to something already existent.
So as you can see your reading is incomplete.
Andrew63 wrote:
You conclude that this is more just. I disagree.
You have the right to it! But please review your position: What makes this system more just is...
1. Ease of calculation . Any regular citizen can understand each part of this system without very complicated calculations, thus
making it more democratic and harder to deceive people. A simple calculator (+ x /) is enough.
2. The cheapest interest as result, only compared to CAS Table. This of course makes production (the borrower) have more
advantage than financial institutions (the loaner). This is a need not only for the borrower but for the society too. Production should be
the most profitable part of economy. Certainly we need low interest rate and low taxes to get that. But this system alone is a good
start.
Please don't take my answer in a wrong way: I am very pleased by your message and I think it is wonderful that you have read and
analyzed it. I am only trying to reply your questions.
Thanks!
The most intriguing of Mattos System is simplicity. It is just another way of seeing things. A different pointofview. A different
approach.
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erick.mattos Posted: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:29:42 PM
Rank: Copper If someone here understands portuguese: I am presenting this system on a Brazilian forum too:
http://www.clubedopairico.com.br/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5960 .
Joined: 10/28/2008
Posts: 5
Location: Brazil
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