“Only a God Can Save Us”:
The Spiegel Interview (1966)
Martin Heidegger
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tion, Det Spiegel, Nr. 23 (1976), 193-219, irl ina thei in brackets Tass
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Wiliam J. Richndon, S.)(093)
srca:: Profeuor Heidegger, we have noted sepeatedy that your
philosophical work has been overshadowed vomewhat by [eran] evens of
short duration in your if that you never ave dared
‘Heidegger: You mesn 1933?
snisort: Yes, [both] before and after. We would like tose this in a larger
‘context and thus arrive at certain quetions that sem to ws important, name
1y: what possibilities does philosophy offer for having an influence upon sc-
{ali (Winchli)~even upon pola actuality?
Heldegger: Thee are indeed important queaions, whether or not 1 can
answer them. But fst | must ay thar before my recorate [was inno way
politically active.* During the winter semener of 198233 I was on leave and
Sent most ofthe time in my mountain but
scx: How didithappea, then that you became Rector ofthe Universi-
ty of Freiburg?
Heidegger: In December, 1932, my neighbor, Profewor (of Anatomy) von
Matendot, was choven Rector. The inwallation ofthe new Rector bere akea
plice on April 15. During the winter semester of 1982-3, we dicumed the
{curcen situation often, not ony the political one, bu expecially that ofthe
‘universities and the partially hopelea situation of the mudens. My judgment
‘went like this: o the extent that I ean judge things, the nly pou ll
Available (0 us] iso try to seize upon the approaching developments with
thote constructive forces that wl remain alive
toe: You saw, then, a relationship between the poston ofthe German
‘University andthe poltical situation of Germany asa whole?
Heidegger: To be sure, I did follow the political event of January-March,
193, and aso spoke about them from time to time with younger colleagues,
My own work, however, was concerned with a more comprehensive inter:
pretation of [196] pre-Socratc thought. With the beganing ofthe summer
‘emeter I returned to Freiburg® Meanwhile, Profesor von Mélledor! had
sumed the office as Rector on Apeil 16. Hardly two weeks later be was
removed from office by the then Miniter of Culture of Baden. What
presumably gave the desired ocasion for this decision ofthe Minister was the
fact thatthe Rector had forbidden the wo-aled “Jewish poster tobe diaplayed
in the Universiy
spins: Mr. von Méllendort wat a Social Democrat. What did he do fier
bin damian?
Heidegger: On th very day of his dsmiaal, von Mllendor came to me
and aid: “Heideger, now you mut takeover the retorts.” rotated that |
had absolutely no administrative experience. However, the Pro-Rector at the
time, Professor (of Thésiogy) Sauer, aio urged me to become a candidate in
the new election, for there was a eal danger that otherwise a [mere func:
A6lnsoccex
tionary would be named Rector. Younger colleagues with whom for several
years I had discussed questions of university management besieged me (with
Fequest] to takeover the reciorate, [hesitated along time. Finally, I declared
‘myself ready o takeover the fice only in the interest inthe University, pro
vided I could be certain of the unanimous support of the entice Academic
Senate. Meantime, the doubts about my qualifieation forthe rectorate re
‘mained, 40 tha onthe very morning ofthe election I went tothe Rector’ of-
fice and tld the dismissed colleague, von Méllendor, and the Pro-Rector,
Sauer, that T could not tke over the fice. Both replied that the election
flready had proceeded so far that at that point I could no longer withdraw
fom the eandidacy.
srunost: And so you declared yourself definitively ready. What form, then
Aid your relationship 10 the National Socialists take?
Heidegger: On the second day after [took office the “Student Leader” and
{wo companions appeared at my door and demanded once more that the
"Jewish poster’ be diplayed. I refused. The three students let with the remark
‘hat my prohibition would be made known tothe Student Leadership Division
of the government. Several days Iatef a telephone call eame from Dr
Baumann, S.A. Group Leader in the office of Higher Education of the
Supreme 8.4. Gommand.* He demanded the hanging ofthe poser in quer
tion, as this already had been done in other universities. Should I reuse, 1
could expect my own dismissal ft, indeed, the clowure of the University 1
tied to gain the support ofthe Minister of Culture of Baden for my prohibi
tion. He explained that he could do nothing againat the S.A. Nonetheless, 1
id ot retract my prohibition
srioet: Up to now, this was not known in that way.
Heidegger: ‘The motive that above all determined me to take over the rc:
torate wat mentioned already in my inaugural lecture at Freiburg in 1929,
“What ia Metaphysics?” “The fields of sconces lie far apart. The manner of,
handling ther objec is esenilly diferent, This disintegrated multiplicity of