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If you like this instructable please vote for it in the Epilog Challenge coming up. I have spent alot of time and effort trying to make this easy to understand and easy for anyone out there to do. I hope you enjoy and please rate and vote. This Instructable will show you how to construct a turbine from reused parts and a couple of new materials. This turbine can achieve speeds of up to and possibly accede 15,000-20,000 running speed rpm's and top rpm's reaching around 30,000 to 35,000. This project can be run on about 40 psi but I have run mine on up to 100 psi and it will really started to scream (I would not sugest running it with that much pressure for more than a few seconds, I was just testing it to see what it could do, it was very dangerous and it could have or was close to flying apart). But to make this project even greener you could run it on steam. Or put it downstream and direct water flow to it and run it just as a hydroelectric plant, this turbine is very strong and versitile. Also please rate this instructable. The reason for making this instructable is because I have been scanning the internet and to make one of these and the outcome of it will either not look very nice or they are very hard to find materials to make them or the materials are too expensive and usually the directions are very complicated and leave parts out. If any of you feel that I have left any parts out please leave a comment and I will try to put them into my instructable and if you have any trouble with any of this please make me aware of it and I will help you out.***PLEASE READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE INSTRUCTABLE BEFORE STARTING YOUR BUILD. Also something that I would love to see done is to have someone build a boiler, this turbine and a small r/c vehicle that could be powered by this. You could even put a generator on the turbine to power the electronic parts of the car. Although you would need to gear it down a bit so it has more torque and less rpm's but if anyone does this or has seen it done please let me know so I can see it. I am not liable for your versions of this and for this failing horribly and hurting someone so please do not run this on any more than about 70 psi and don't run it too long with that much pressure it will spin at around 15,000 rpm's at about 40 psi which should be good enough unless you are showing it off to friends or family, then crank it up but don't blow it up. ***Update, After seeing what this project could do I am now deciding what kind of motor to put onto this to actually power something and I am working on a copper exhaust system that will come together like the headers of a car to direct the exhaust flow upwards instead of straight out. I will be putting on how to build and attach these things within the next two to three weeks. I will post sometime soon.
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Step 1: Parts
Here is a picture of all of the parts and tools needed for the construction of your turbine. 10 hard drives, which if you go to your local high school they will willingly give you however many hard drives that you want just be polite and let them know what you are doing with them (you only need nine but just in case you mess up). You will then need two pieces of 1/4 inch plexi-glass that are 7x7 inches. Then about a 2.2 " piece of 4 inch diameter schedule 40 pvc pipe and if you want you may be able to find clear pipe for a better look. An exacto-knife or sharp knife. Safety glasses. A small bench-top lathe or mini-lathe. Then eight bolts that are 31/2 inches long and anywhere from 1/4 to 3/4(which is unnecessary but if that is what you have go ahead) inches in diameter. Then you will need 8 bolts and 16 washers to go along with them. Also, you will need some tubing; I am using 3/8 inch id 3/4 inch od plastic tubing. Then you should have two bearing and part of you project will be based on these so I chose two 1/4 inch id bearings with 5/8 inch od. These are Fafnir S1KDD7 bearings. You will then need some precision measuring equipment such as a micrometer and a good ruler. And on your lathe you should have a tailstock with a dead center or live center. And a 6-7 inch piece of 1-1/2 inch diameter Aluminum. The only parts out of the hard drive that you will be using are the platters and the spacer rings so save them and you can throw the rest out or save the very strong magnets in them for another project. I forgot to mention you do not need to have the same size bearings as I do just whatever you have lying around. But I have found that the smaller they are the higher speeds they can handle and if I were you I would not go under a 1/4 inch inner diameter. You should also have a set of drills and a drill. Just to be clear here is a list of materials. See pictures if you have trouble understanding what anything is. Materials -10 hard drives (local high school [tech department]) -8 bolts (I will be using 5/16) (hardware store or look around your house for some laying around) -8 nuts (I will be using 5/16) (hardware store or look around your house) -16 washers with a 5/16 hole in them (hardware store or look around your house) -Some 4" pvc pipe (The finish length will have to be 2.2") (hardware store or ask a local plumber ,it is a small amount so they may give it to you for free just remember to be polite) -2 pieces of plexi-glass that are 7x7" (hardware store) -1 pieces of 1-1/2" diameter aluminum 6-7" long (probably will have to order off the internet like I did) -2 ball bearing I am using some with an inner diameter of 1/4" and outer diameter of 5/8" (hardware store, you do not have to use the exact ones I am) -About a foot of plastic tubing (hardware store) -JB Weld (hard ware store but you can use almost any strong glue you have around such as super glue) -Silicon sealant (automotive store, ex. Advance Auto Parts or maybe Lowes or a hardware store will have it) if you don't know what this is there is a picture of it in here Tools -Exacto-knife (almost any store) -Safety glasses (almost any store) -Some kind of lathe (I am using a South Bend) with a tailstock and dead center or live center (if you do not have a lathe try to get a machine shop to do it for you but you will have to pay them depending on the owner anywhere from $10 to $60 where I work you might get it done for $20) -A micrometer and precision ruler (order off the internet buy a good brand don't cheap out so it will last a while if you do not have one but if you are giving it to a machine shop to do don't worry about these) -A set of drills (hardware store) -A drill press or milling machine would be nice but a hand drill will be fine (you probably know someone that has one that would let you use it if you do not have one) Extras -Krylon spray paint (hardware store) -Lock nuts instead of regular nuts listed above in the materials section (hardware store)
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Step 8: Assembly
First put one of the hard drive disks that you have not drilled onto the shank. Then layer them with a spacer from the hard drive and then put a disk with the holes drilled in it, spacer, disk, spacer, disk and so one until you end up with just a spacer on the end(After you do a dry assembly then put a few drops of superglue between each disk and spacer so they will not spin on the shank, that is not what we want them to do. After you do this put the retaining ring on and tighten up the set screw. Once this is done you can put the rest of it together. The last picture in this setting is the assembled shank and disks sorry I do not have a better picture. After this is done then take the piece of plexi-glass without the exhaust ports in it and put the eight bolts into the hole you drilled previously. Then flip this piece over so the bolt heads are on the bench or table you are using. Then lay the pvc pipe onto the piece of plexi-glass with the assembly of the shank and disks (look at the extras section first). Then you should take the other piece of plexi-glass (the one with the exhaust ports) and slide it onto the eight bolts that should be standing strait up now. After that take the last eight washers and slip them onto the bolts. Then put the eight nuts onto the bolts. The project should now be coming together. Then once you tighten up the nuts (remember to put the bearings exactly where you want them and then center your pvc pipe around the disks before tightening the nuts) then put your piece of tubing into the previously drilled hole and put a plentiful amount of silicon sealer all around the tube and the hole so no air will leak out from this area. Then put the appropriate air fitting that you have on the other end of your tube and you are ready to run it after the glue dries of course. On to taking it further.
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it make a better seal. Now let this dry overnight. Now that you have done this your project will look much better. Also if you see the pictures with the tape on them it is just holing the copper pipe there until I get some fasteners. But if you have already gotten them fasten away.
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kartikiyer247 says:
Jul 28, 2009. 6:41 AM REPLY whats its use for???????pls answer!!!!!i liked the project and would like to make it!!!but can u tell me where its basically used nd whats its application???
diginess says:
Jan 8, 2011. 9:53 PM REPLY Basically it's used to translate motion of air, water, etc into rotation of the device. It then acts as a flywheel, you could attach an electric motor to it to generate electrical power.
jpa234 says:
daaaang!0_0 at first i was all like "sounds fun" :3 now im all like 'sounds kompicated' :/ how much did it cost u 2 m8k dis?
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Pilgrimm says:
Domo Arigato!
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jpa234 says:
Dec 29, 2010. 3:17 PM REPLY I was just having some fun with the spelling is all, anyway don't you think this argument is kinda silly. I mean we're arguing about typing skills *_*
kage_no_akiri says:
Dec 29, 2010. 4:23 PM REPLY well sht....yeah i guess your right if you think about it. wow....how petty. im really sorry i started all of this. kenkou chou jumyou kage no mozaiku (good health long life, kage no mozaiku)
kage_no_akiri says:
i went back and deleted my replies. thanks for getting me to see how foolish this really was. kenkou chou jumyou kage no mozaiku (good health long life, kage no mozaiku)
jpa234 says:
thanks im glad you understand and thanks for the apology
amando96 says:
All I need now is the money for a lathe.
sadben says:
Dec 28, 2010. 9:28 AM REPLY go to a machinist, they will make it for you, but if u took shop or tech design you can use the shop provided by your school.
bombmaker2 says:
I hear that.
Bitkid says:
Why do people make these Really? I'm just wondering what they can be used for since I see Many projects on them.
carpe_noctem says:
Dec 2, 2010. 10:33 AM REPLY I haven't done it but a rain water powered generator sounds doable. You would have to run all the water from your gutters to the turbine. There might be problems with the gutter filling up and overflowing, though, so some kind of bypass near the top of the gutter would probably be a good idea...I'm thinking something like the buoy valve (or whatever its called) inside a toilet would probably work.
toogers says:
you could make an eco-freindly blender.
Sitnalta says:
They're just science projects, you can't really use them for anything.
To make a practical Tesla turbine you need very precise clearance between the discs and the outer housing, which is impossible to do at home.
dAkshEN3 says:
Its just a very efficient turbine and interesting to make and see working. Plus everyone loves Tesla.
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chakitodog says:
What do you use to power the turbine?
jx53 says:
Sep 20, 2010. 8:04 PM REPLY really nice instructable but I need some more precise information. did the holes on hard disk have to be aligned? what is the space between the hard disk? did you place 9 holed disk and then 1 without hole at the end? please give me more precise info on this to help me build my own tesla turbine. thanks at the advance and sorry for my bad english, i'm french!
Jan 20, 2010. 8:40 AM REPLY If you dont manage to locate any hard drive disks could you use CDs I am trying to build one an need some info any help would be appreciated
austinsqu111 says:
Jul 31, 2010. 2:20 PM REPLY yes you can use cds but if u have a rack of cds and u look if you stack one say the non shiny side if u stack the non shiny side on another non shiny side u will notice that there is space in between them and thats what you will have to do i am assuming because i dont know if hard drive discs are made any differently and i didnt read the instructable but yes u can use regular cds
kazlak5000 says:
very good http://science.creaforum.net/forum.htm
mekennedy1313 says:
Jan 21, 2010. 10:21 AM REPLY Why do you wrap the incoming air around the body of the turbine. I would think a straight in air pipe would be simpler and not have additional friction of the bends.
Firestorm_101 says:
Jun 14, 2010. 9:49 AM REPLY Pardon if I sound ignorant, but would be better to have the end of the tubing a conical shape? To increase initial pressure blowing into the turbine?
jeremyfox43921 says:
Apr 2, 2010. 3:01 AM REPLY hello first I want to say nice build :) second I want to ask does this produce thrust and if so how much? I don't check my mail here often at all so my address is jeremyfox43921@gmail.com if you would be able to reply that would be awesome ty
lenny25 says:
Jul 5, 2009. 7:45 AM REPLY If the turbine was geared up, do you think it might have enough torque to work as a motor for another machine like a lathe or a milling machine?
ElectronicsNub says:
Nov 10, 2009. 10:38 AM REPLY It would be a waste of energy to run the compresser to run the turbine to run the lathe. you would go from electrical energy to kinetic (i think) energy. every time you change forms of energy it costs you some of that energy.
lenny25 says:
Nov 11, 2009. 12:54 AM REPLY The exercise is not really about saving electricity, it's about exploring new possibilities. If I can successfully run a lathe on a compressor, the next question is, What is the minimum pressure needed to run the lathe? And then I want to ask: Can I find a source of air or steam pressure that equals that, yet is more cost effective or energy efficient than electricity. So it may not be a very green venture to begin with, but my goal is innovation and invention, which if successful will result in greener machines for the future.
darkevilapie says:
what about geisers (steamvulkanos ) in iceland. put one on top of these and it wil be green energy yay ^^
ElectronicsNub says:
Ahhhhh........... ok, maybe a steam engine-lathe? =P
lenny25 says:
Yeah imagine the cool factor on that! The Steampunk Lathe!
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ElectronicsNub says:
Nov 13, 2009. 3:53 PM REPLY steam is cool stuff, I'm really into steam engines and such right now, it has a ton of torque and there are so many designs for the engines. I'm thinking of a nuclear powered one that puts the excess steam in a condenser and recycles it, AKA UNLIMITED FUEL!!! =P
lenny25 says:
Hmmm, Uranium...maybe a little out of reach for the average DIY backyard engineering enthusiast. :P
masterochicken says:
I beg your pardon? unitednuclear.com/index.php
cuchulain92 says:
Jul 21, 2010. 1:50 PM REPLY The fact that you're posting publicly proves you haven't the capability to reduce that ore to metal and then enrich the isotope, I'm sorry to say. It takes equipment that's out of the reach of some national economies- and if a private citizen were so able, they'd remain a private citizen for perhaps a day.
CrazyMachinist94 says:
Jul 12, 2009. 11:24 AM REPLY Yes, but it would have to be geared down not up but that would use a lot of air for a lathe or milling machine but it is possible
lenny25 says:
Jul 15, 2009. 2:35 AM REPLY Maybe a compressor? I want to build a lathe, but struggling to find a motor that has enough torque. So I would keep the turbine the same size, but just increase the air pressure and add a couple of pulleys. Maybe I should try a simpler machine first, like making a safer version of that instructable on the pumkin cutter skill saw.
CrazyMachinist94 says:
Jul 20, 2009. 4:23 PM REPLY it would work but you would just need to gear it down alot... also almost any compressor would have to be running constantly to keep the turbine going especially if you increased the air pressure, my compressor will be fine for about 2 minutes and then it will kick on and just run constantly until i stop the turbine. But whatever you do let me know and if I can help.
kage_no_akiri says:
Dec 6, 2010. 12:48 AM REPLY hey! run teh tubine off of a methanol powered steam generator! youcn even make methanol with grass clippings cus it ferments! so youd pretty much have an inexhaustible supply of fuel. of course teh problem with tht is how much you could actually power with it and for how long. especialy looking at how long it takes grass to grow and how much methanol youd have to produce to hold you over the winter. unless you were able to find another source of fermentables for the still. this would take lots of research on. kenkou chou jumyou kage no mozaiku (good health long life, kage no mozaiku)
seabee890 says:
Oct 31, 2009. 2:41 PM REPLY I love the entousiasm that you all are showing for doing something a different way. I do the same thing sometimes, but this is what we in the navy call "nuking it." you would probably get a better return on your energy expenditure (though not as cool sounding) if you design a lathe that is powered by the electric motor on your compressor. they did this in the old days when people coud not afford many motors, they would use one motor that had different pullies and ratios to power multiple things. figure out the energy usage of the compressor motor and thn deside what it would do. I think somebody created a way to make bearings out of plywood or wood also if you can't work acrylic.
brokengun says:
Mar 11, 2009. 2:17 PM REPLY If your holes aren't precise, I would worry about it at high RPM. Be careful with that, a shattered hard drive disk would be pretty painful at high speed.
swdepew says:
What does the precise location of the holes have to do with RPMs and broken hard drives?
kerrs4 says:
Feb 25, 2010. 12:45 PM REPLY it's more the fact that the holes have to me balanced, so that the weight is balanced. If the holes are random, then the disc will be unbalanced and may shatter at high speeds
bodo says:
Dec 26, 2009. 4:12 PM REPLY ok well goood but please how can we calculate rpm and power as wats or hp so we can build biger ones for cars or more i heard that a small replication get 300 hp so it is posible to build in in something to get energy or motion how can we calculate I can not fined it in wiki Nov 30, 2009. 7:20 PM REPLY ok, I am in the design face of building one and I see that in one side the disk platters have holes and in the other side they dont...How many disks have the holes? or is the last one in one of the sides that doesnt have any...Very nice setup by the way!!
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CrazyMachinist94 says:
It is only the last disk that does not have holes in it. The rest of them do.
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