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FASHION DIVIDES PUN K What's happened? How soon we forget- or di d we ever know in the frist place? I always thought punk was supposed to be about being an individual , living outside of straight society's bounds, tryin g to create change, etc . . . Well, you could've foole d me, 'cause I hear people setting rules and standards on our ideas . Like dress for example . . .that' s right- we now must look a certain way In order to become accepted . Of course some of the people doin g the talking are the same people who will go out an d spend gobs of money on 'punk' gear . . .bondage trousers, studded belts, jackets, etc . . .Whatever happened to the do-it-yourself philosophy of makin g your own clothes and T-shirts? What about thrif t shops? Don't you see that we're creating the sam e kind of conformity we originally set out to des troy? Punk's an attitude . . .why turn it into some thing plastic and superficial? It doesn't matte r what you look like or how you dress . . .punk i s about being an individual . I've seen the slogan s and I've read the rhetoric, so where's the action ? You've got to be prepared to change things wit h positive action . Use your head for a change . . . think and then act . This society is fucked u p enough, don't become part of the problem . Fin d fault and then seek a solution . Let's keep pun k pure, and let's not lose track of our individualit y and our ideals . Enjoy the music, whatever it i s (Black Flag, SPK, Salvation Army, etc . . .remembe r when I mention 'punk' here I'm not talking abou t a specific musical genre, but referring to a broader sense of thought) but don't forget about th e need to create and change . There's more to pun k than going out and slam dancing on a Saturda y night : Anyway I thought I'd make this point an d hopefully a few of you might profit from it . Also , I don't mean to give the impression that everyon e down here is like this 'cause there're slot o f people (even though were probably outnumbered ) who are dedicated and know the difference . Punk is a state of mind- don't be fooled or conne d otherwise . . . "You can be accepted or rejecte d in punk or societ y You can play the role, I'll just be mysel f Fuck people who think I'm a hippi e or a weekend pun k If they'd stop to think they'd se e Punk is an attitude " -The Wrecks 198 2 "Slogans and badges worn without though t Instant identities so cheaply bough t Well freedom ain't product, it isn't just fun If you're looking for peace your work's just begun " -Crass 198 2

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TYPIST : LAURA CHRISTOPHER (who dared to care ) CONTRIBUTORS : ERICK WATKINS, WALTER CZ, H B STILLANO, DAVE READ, LESLIE WINNER, CRAI G VAGUE, WENDY HOLIDAY, RICHARD, ALLISON RAINE , FISH, KEVIN STAWIERAY, MARIA DANIELLE, ALLEN ESSER, TML,MICHAEL SZYMANSKI, DAVE CHEETHAM + everyone else worth mentionin g 1982 Suburban Relapse . No material may be used without consent, however consent will be gladly given in almost all instances . Jus t ask first . SUBURBAN RELAPS E P .O . BOX 61090 6 N . MIAMI, FL . 33161 NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION via Rough Trade, Fault y Products, Systematic, and Constant Cause . Please contact any of these distributors i f you wish to carry Sublapse for your store . Girl in Plumed Hat by Fis h Mais Am i Obsidian eyes and serpentiresse s Don't chide me or provok e We shall always be friend s Dialectic and profound Your oneness to my multipl e How strange, almost eerie . Mais am i Odalesque in statur e Come, and dance by thelak e We shall always be friend s Though critical and satiri c Your strength to my visio n How wretched, almost ignoble . Mais am i Opalescent spirit in the nigh t Perform me a harlequinad e We shall always be friend s Somewhat depraved and vil e Your tacit consent to my connivanc e How supple, almost limber . Mais am i Omniscient teller of tale s Design me a comic vignett e We shall always be friend s Ever gracious and harmoni c Your agility to my supine vicissitud e How unexpected, almost celibate .

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Door Mr . Lapse , Thank you for this month's copy of 'auburban Healpse' . Your subtle humour is greatly appreciate d by our disc Jockeys . sincerely , bonny Pew Program Director WSHE-PM Ft . Lauderdale, Miam i What an honor: You've male my day, Sonny . hea l WSHE stationery and everything, . I don't know wha t to say . I'm truly speeohless . There may be hop e for you yet . I'll tell you what, Sonny- how 'bou t leaving the side of the enemy and Joining up wit h us? Just think of it . . .Minor Threat, The Fall , n Block Flag, The Eat, Birthday Party, etr- . . . . all o OSHE . OR- how about a weekend A-L special wit h oiouxale and the Banshees . That will help set v back on the right track toward total rehabilitation . I'll bet you'll even be able to sleep better a t y night as well . All you've got to do is throw awa all those ratings books, the Wall Street Journal , the charts and figures hod say 'I'm mad as hell an d I'm not going to take It any more, Our staff wil l he eagerly welting to help you rut . See you soon . - ED.

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Back in August Miami/Ft . Lauderdale got its first taste of some D .C . hardcore when Double, 0 came into town . It was a last minute decision b y the band to make the journey south . They Were in North Carolina and had the misfortune of having ; a bunch of their dates cancelled, so south the y came . The local turnout was pitiful, but the fe w that did show up weren't disappointed by the band' s performance . I think I can say that most of th e people in attendance had a good time . For those of you unfamiliar with Double 0 , they've been together for almost a year (I thin k that's right) . The band consists of Eric(vocals) , Jason (guitar), Bert ( bass), and Richard (drums) . They don't have anything on vinyl yet, although they can be found on the Charred Remains" cassett e compilation . All the band members have been activ e within the D .C . scene for awhile- Bert and Richar d were in the Untouchables, Eric was in Red C an d Bert also played bass in the Youth Brigade . Thei r roadie Tomas was formerly the drummer for Red C a s well . He begins their sets with a quick warm-up o n guitar . . .was that Jimi Hendrix or Robin Trower ? The following interview was conducted on the beac h (where else? This is Florida!)- everyone was pre sent except Eric .

PHOTOS . . .LESLIE WIMME R SR : Why do you think most of the D .C . bands onl y stay together for a few months ? JASON : Because there's a lack of places to play . . there's really not alot of places to play . . .bu t usually other bands come out of the bands tha t break up . SR : Tell us about the whole " straight edge" thing . RICHARD : Let's get some shit straight abou t straight edge . It's not a movement . People get th e wrong thing about straight edge, it's not a movement ; it's the idea of one person (Ian MacKaye) . If some people are straight . edge that's great , that's fine- if you're not, you're not . JASON : There's no turmoil in Washington lik e these two groups who hate each other . SR : Is there a D .C . philosophy ? RICHARD : Everybody has feelings- 'What's this al l about, man?' . . .it's all about your own ideas . . . how you feel- its independence . THOMAS : It's like alot of people don't drink o r take drugs, but that's their own idea . JASON : Then there's alot of people thatdo- it' s not like a turmoil . . .people get along with eac h other .

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compilation ? JASON : We declined- we dropped out of that . SR : Alot of people lately seem down on the Bad Brains . JASON ; The Bad Brains have alot of things the y need to take care of . . . too many worries on thei r minds . . . BERT : They've got Zion Trian and their album coming out and all this shit . We're probably going to be on a compilation cassette with Brian Schroeder . . . JASON : We're definitely going to be coming ou t with something . . .hopefully by this winter . SR : What about the shows there ? JASON : There's show's on and off . . .like Wilson Center has shows . . .930 Club when some major hard core band comes by . . .there's shows .

about is if there's anarchy . . .you're going to di e in whatever a matter of time . . .someone's just going to come up and kill you and take all your money . RICHARD : Let ' s get it straight up- what you're talking about as far as anarchy . SR : What about peaceful anarchy ? THOMAS : Terrorism is not anarchy, anarchy is a lifestyle . It's not fucking throwing bombs a t tanks . . . . RICHARD : I hate labels like that . JASON : Labels basically suck- all the straigh t edge labels, anarchy labels . RICHARD : To label is to limit . . .to limit is t o label . Put that down for Bored Youth . . . . SR : What do you guys do during the day ? RICHARD : Sleep . THOMAS : Masturbate . SR : What about skateboarding ? RICHARD : These two are the big skateboarders , Eric and Bert . Me and Jason just fuck around . . . JASON : We're the ones who just drive down the hill .

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SR : What bands have you played with that you'v e been particularly impressed with ? JASON : Negative Approach . RICHARD : They were hot as shit . THOMAS : Bruce Springsteen . JASON : I wasn't impressed with the Dead Kennedy s when we played with them . I mean, I thought the y sounded like your average basement band . They al l just stand there like they're dead . . .like they hav e sticks up their asses . JASON : No, he moves around and all . SR : Are you making any money on this tour ? RICHARD : As a matter of fact, we're in the hole , but we're having fun . THOMAS : OK, here's my comment . You've got to give up, you've got to make sacrifices . The proble m with the punks today is that they don't make an y sacrifices, they just go along with all this bull shit, and the only thing that sets them apart I s the music they listen to . It's not supposed to be that way, they are supposed to have a totally different lifestyle . JASON : Wait a minute . . .I don't believe that- lik e I listen to punk rock and I've got to get a mohaw k now and a pair of boots- I've got to drink warm beer and beat up old women- that's a bunch of shit . RICHARD : I'll go along with what Thomas said, bu t most important is where your head's at . . . SR : So are you saying be an individual ? THOMAS : It's doing what you believe in and yo u don't have to live up to the role because it's a n image . It depends on what your real feelings ar e about it, and not how you look . Being a punk mean s looking at all the bullshit around you and fightin g against it . Wake up and make sacrifices . SR : What kind of sacrifices ? RICHARD : Anything that bothers you . . .anything yo u don't agree with . There's your sacrifice, so g o against it . THOMAS : Punk is supposed to be a lifestyle, it' s just that people lose track of it . SR : (Heavy sarcasm) Hey, one more question- So, i s Ian MacKaye the leader of the D .C . scene ? JASON : Oh yeah, he's our god, we worship him . Every Tuesday night we go to his house, everybod y in the D .C . scene and some people from many othe r cities like L .A ., and there's a big shrine tha t looks just like Ian 350 feet tall, and we all worship him . RICHARD : Hey, that's one thing . . .hey . . .Ian MacKay e is probably one of the most outspoken people i n the D .C . scene . That's why he gets all t h recognition, which is fucking great . He's g thing to say and he says it- he's not afraid to sa y it . . .but he's probably one of the friendliest people in D .C . BERT : See, all along their tour they encountere d people that thought Ian would go up there and cal l them assholes because they're drinking, and not t o drink . . .but it's not true . SR : So he's not trying to impose a punk "mora l majority" thing ? BERT : Not at all . RICHARD : People get the wrong idea . The attitud e they have with the straight edge, it's . . .who th e fuck are you? They shouldn't do that snit . Look a t that song "In My Eyes", people get the wrong ide a about that . If you read the lyrics, and read care fully, you can really see what he's trying to say , man . t's almost like you can stick an 'if' i n there . . .it's like "if I don't smoke, if I don' t drink" .
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E : Who writes the songs ? Je : Ummm, we all do, I write most, of them . 5 : We all write lots of riffs, but we all put i t together, do our own things, you know- He write s all the words though . Uggh . E: Where do you get your lyrics from : Je : From TV Guide- no, we steal them from othe r bands . F: Which bands ? Je : China White (laughter), T .S .O .L ., i,ircle One , Suicidal Tendencies . . . Ja : Wasted Youth writes all our lyrics for us . Je : Jack from T .S .O .L . is a lyrical genius . Yah ? Je : He writes all of our lyrics . T : Simon & Garfunkel, Arlie Murray . . . Je : Anne Murray was oil Saturday Ni g ht Live . Uhgh yah! (lau g hs ) F : What are vour musical root ' Je : Tammy have . What are your Influences ? S: Wilma RurgeSS ; Je : Ugh huh yah ! (2 min- pause ) Je : Hey, sweet young thing . (directed towar d Tracy ) 5 : What bands do you listen to ? Je : Rick Jmaes . 5 : What are your favorite songs ? Je : Wait, wait, wait, wait- how's it go ? T: Jimmy Furcy . S : "She was getting kinky in the ghetto and sh e laid her pigtails down on me . " Je : "I came comin' home & talk to (Jamie? ) E; Is this live ? S: Oh, that's our favorite song . "I'm so craz y comin' home & talk to (Jamie? ) Je : 1 swear Rick James is our idol . Ja : Shut up, you guys . E : I just got so much tape . Je : Oh, okay . T: Superfreak!

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I think . Je : Like purely for A lot of bands that form just wanna see i f Ja : they can get big . Je : L .A . has a lot of shit bands, and they hav e a lot of great bands, too . I'm sure any city ha s good and shitty ones . E : What do you do when not performing ? Je : Watch T .V ., smoke pot- Steve goes to school . E : Yah, what do you think about pot ? Je : Oh, I love it ; I've been smoking pot every single day for 3 years, and like with only missin g maybe 4 days . T : I like shoot (something) . E : Can you elaborate ? T : Well, shooting (something) gives you thi s death-defying feeling, it's euphoric, I mean yo u can orgasm . E : Really, did you today ? Je : I'm not allowed to use the vibrator . T : Well, only 2 or 3 times a day- I'm gonna g o get some water . Je : Get some for me, too . E : Me 3 . Je : And I don't eat health food either, I've bee n eating at Jack-in-the-Box for the past 4 years . M y mom doesn't cook any more since she works, so m e and Steve eat at Taco Bell, and pizza . E : Bet you're almost dead now, huh ? Je : No, we're very healthy , E : How about the mushro0Uis I saw you smokin' o n stage ? Je : That was Angel Dust, 00 Sherms, they dip i t in Sherman cigarettes, they them Sherms- d o they have Angel Dust in Florida ? E : I think so . Je : It's fun to play on Angel Dust, I've onl y smoked, like twice . Ja : It lowers your I .i ..like by about 50% . Je : O h ; my I .Q .'s so high, my I .Q .'s like 500 . E : Is it really? Is that maximum ? Je : Wouldn't you be dead if It were 500, like 16 0 is genius, you'd be bored shitless . E : What do you think about your fans ? Je : Oh, they're great . See, we're one of thos e bands, like the lucky ones that have a very diff erent, we have a totally split audience- we hav e like your average older people, we have pun k rockers, just regular people, we're not in a ru t like, only punkers like us, our audience is no t huge . . . A real big cross-section . Ja : E : Would you rather have people slam or watch ? Ja : People slam or people watch, it like depend s on the show . Depends on who you're playing with . If you're playing with Black Flag they slam, I f you're playing with middle class, they stand ther e and pick their noses . Je : It's cool as long as people are into it, i t doesn't matter if they're dancing or just sittin g there, but when they're like, just not paying at

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Is that for the record ? Ja : That is for the record, well . . . not everybody . Je : All night clubs suck, I mean I'd advise an y band that is planning to tour in L .A ., you bette r have your shit together, because the club owner s will rip you off, they're so used to rippin g people off that they rip people off more than the y pay them . E : Like the Cathay deGrande incident . Je : Cathay deGrande, like for instance they'l l pay another band that has really fancy smanc y management, but they haven't been together as lon g as us, and they're not as big a draw . Je : And they got paid 700 bucks and they'll pa y us like 50 to 100 dollars, even if it's packed , and make up an excuse- the guy's fried, gnat guy' s brains are fucked up, like here they pay you i f you're headlining, otherwise, you get paid 10 0 dollars, I think out of town is alot better than it is it L .A . .

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E : Who writes the songs ? S : Vicki Peterson and I, Susana Hoffs, write most of the songs, and we write words and music and / Debbie wrote 1 song that's gonna come out on the EP that we worked together on . E : Hmmm .Where do you get the ideas for you r lyrics ? BANGS : Anything . D: It's like whatever somebody feels at the time, lag or some personal experience, or you know, abou t somebody they know personally, or something that happened. / p E: Which are your favorite songs- of yours, an d in the world? D : Well of our songs, I think, `The Heal World" . S : You like that one ? D: Yeah, and "I'm in Line" . BY ERICK WATKINS S : Yeah, it's a soul song more than anything else . E: How many members in the band, four, right ? S : There's four, yeah, Debbie Peterson play s drums, and I play rhythm guitar, Vicki Peterso n plays lead, and Annette Zilinekas plays bass ; an d Debbie, Vicki, and I all sing . E : How long have you been playing as a group? ~ .. S : About a year and a half . E : Where do your musical roots come from- wha t bands influenced you ? D : Well, actually, our roots are a lot of 60' s male groups, really, like the Beatles, Yardbirds , the Kinks . . . . S : The Byrds . D: The Stones . E: I love the Stones . S : A lot of people call us a girl group, you know, ; but we aren't so much influenced by the classic \ girl groups of the 60's, we're more influenced b y the male rock bands . E : What bands do you listen to ? Well, I listen to alot of 60's stuff, you kno w The Bangs are : Debbie Peterson, Vicki Feter ) l.ilinskas . This in- but I also like a lot of the bands around now, like. -sonSuaHf,dAet Dream Syn- ' terview was taken at the Whiskey, the last night \ dicate, oyou knownIwrnamed 3 o'clock), lly alot . before they closed . They closed because the big oi = D : Alot of local bands . l _ a E : Who's your favorite ? bands, Chron Gen and Vice Squad came, and some alleged skinhead began belly-flopping on the hoods S : The Dream Syndicate , and 3 o'clock, and Re d of the cop cars . Riots broke out, squad cars . . .so Kross (laughter, for Red Kross were in the room) . have a dances clu b our favorite movie is " Beyond the Valle y so they'll go back S . AndDolls" (laughs) . of the month . Present were E : Who are your favorite movie stars like per- / ,sonaliteduf ? S : Dennis Hopper (someone yells "yah :") and Davi d Hemming, we like all those mod guys from the 60's, you know . E : The Who ? S : Oh yeah, we like old Who, I love old Who . D: I love old Who, love old Stones . S : Before Ron Wood (laughter) . j E: Yeah, yeah I hate that guy (laughs) . S : Mick Taylor I like, Mick Taylor was cool . E : I didn't even like him that much, though Brian .000i Jones I loved . S : Yeah, Brian Jones was cool . D: Yes, he was definitely cool . S : So . . .we dust recorded a 5 song EF . E: Do you like it ? D: Yeah, it turned out really well, it sounds slo t like us live . S : Yeah, as opposed to sort of a real slick pop / sound, we wanted a real live sound, dig drums . E: No synthesizers used . D: No, none at all . S : We had some pianos, we got like a harpsichord 1 sound on one of the pianos . E: Have you done a lot of interviews ? D : Recently we've done a lot . S : N .Y . Rocker, Bam, Trouser Press, slot of stuff . D : Yeah, it's really been great .

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0 : Why hasn't the band played Florida before ? A : We asked ourselves that . When we first want ed to go to Florida, there were no clubs tha t . wanted us . Then we weren't big enough to pla y bigger places . 0 : Tell me about your new material . i A : We are doing a little bit of new material on 1 the tour . It still has a lot of rhythm, but les s instrumentation . We are down from a nine-piec e to an eight-piece . (Guitarist Andrian Bele w Ilullulll departed for King Crimson . ) 0 : How did the decision to expand the band from the basic four come about ? : I can't remember how it came about . Jerry (Harrison) had a lot to do with it, finding th e A people . We had no idea originally how long it would last . We were only going to do it at Heatwave (th e punk Woodstock in Canada, Aug . 1980) and at th e show in Central Park . "We'll see how that goes, " we said . Then we were pleased with it . Q : And the next album will continue in that vein . A : More or less . The album is maybe two-third s i recorded . We ' ve been working on it pn and off . We recorded before our Japanese tour . We have t o add some vocals and added touches and do mixing . It should be released in January . Q : Do you have a title ? A : No, there has been no decision . Q : Are you writing songs on the tour ? A : I haven't been able to write songs while tour ing . But I make notes and take down ideas fo r instrumentation . Q : The University of Miami date (Sept . 22) i s the end of the tour . . . A : We can't continue playing with Tina pregnant . The baby is due in late November . Q : How did you get involved with "The Catherin e Wheel? " A : They called me up and asked me if I wante d to do it . I went to a couple of rehearsals whe n they had a rough version . It turned out to be a collaboration with Twyla Tharp . I just read i n thklpaper it is going to be on "Dance in America" (PBS television) . Q : What records are you listening to ? A : I'll look at what cassettes I have here . (pause)

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You guys seem to have a change in attitude . . . or at least that's my impression from, let's say , - back in the days of the Balkan . . . from a not-give a-fuck attitude to now, you seem more serious- II mean Skip's got his briefcase inside and . . . . A : Yeah! It got to the point where down here i t didn't matter, cause we could just work our job s and do that bullshit trip at night . You remembe r last summer our attitude changed a bit . . .we saw the D.C . bands and the Bad Brains . . .and then whe n I went to New York my attitude changed alot more . iI stopped drinking alomost . . .almost . . .stopped smoking and cleaned out alot . . .just started living a different life. The reason for the organization it just stopped being funny after awhile and it started to aggravate me and in New York you have to be organized no matter what you're doing. We've gotten alot better, also which kind of inspire d

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Js Q : What about "Fascism's Fun " ? try to market A : It's like this sarcastic commentary about ho w bus to to listen to us,ourselves . . .if anyone woul d want you know. That's why it took ~y much fun the bi igs have in the world . us so long to put out a record, 'cause we just 'a really weren't into our songs that much * Q : Basically punk deals with rebellion in alot o f 0Q : The record's kind of a change, two ofreally . the songs respects, do you feel that you have that need t o are much slower than what we've been used to . I s rebel? that a new direction for the band ? A : Yeah, I've always been that way since I was a 'A : Yeah! I like heavy metal, I always have . I got 0, kid . Some of the things I did when I was a kid were sick of hardcore as far as . . .like you stand outside totally obnoxious . Yeah . . .my parents were real and open and you couldn' t strict Scottish people . When I was growing up smo- ,of A7whichthe door would.it just got so fuckin g tell band it was . . king pot and doing mushrooms . . .and when I was monotonous . There's only like 3 or 4 hardcore growing my hair they didn't like that, and now bands I relly like . It wasn't an intentional when I cut my hair they didn't like that either . change- it was just like something I changed whe n Yeah I guess I've always been rebellingit , ... I started writing the different musicSki' s . . .ppy , started as a parent thing although I love my of stuffparents . I still feel the same fire as when I first always loved Hendrix and that sortgot when w it' s a new formula in a way . We kind of started getting turned on by the earle music . . the started writing songs we saw thatinside of us e. . . early unk stuff . , instead of sitting down and saying 'I'm going to 00 i
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A : Almost everything that comes out of Englan d sucks, like 2 or 3 bands . . . Q : Alot of people here worship the British bands . . .oi and that type of thing especially . A : I hate of music : Let's make that clear righ t now . When we were down here before . . .I think I wa s misquoted in the Borington or something saying I like of bands, and I can't stand that kind o f music . Q: g hat about the record, are you happy with it ? A : Yeah, I'm very happy with the record- we_spen t a lot of time on it . I just wish we could do an L P we've got a load of new songs . We just haven't ha d the time, changing musicians and all . . . Q : Anything you want to add . . . any encouragement , advice . . . A: Tell everyone to practice their golf shots , polish their cars, and if they're in New York , don't look me up .

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My first time behind bars (barbed wire and tall fences, to be exact)- I didn't know what t o expect, exactly . It was quite different from th e movies . . .tennis courts, a lake, weight room, poo l tables, snack bar . . .this place must have bee n built right after Watergate . Things appeared to b e calm . . .prisoners walking about, a few jogging, a few carried tennis rackets, but most sat about . Appearances are deceiving of course, and it wa s difficult to examine things further, as we wer e not permitted to walk around . This was a minimu m security prison (I think that's what they cal l them)-the emphasis is supposed to be on rehabilitation-at least that's what we were told . Anyway, the reason we were here was for Larr y Joe- I went as a roadie (no photos permitted sorry) . Anyway, Larry Joe and the boys kicked ass , despite the overwhelming heat . I don't know whethe r everyone's seen his new line-up or not (Jame s Rowe- electric gtr ., Bobby Tak-snare drum, an d "Mad Dog " Smith-bass fiddle) but if you haven't , you should make a point of doing so . Now I know why they didn't open up for the Stray Cats at th e Agora (gag, choke, vomit!) . They would have blow n those silly boys straight off the fuckin' stage . Larry Joe's not a revival band- this is pure rockabilly, which in case you didn't know, is a pur e American music form- just like the blues (Musi c History Lesson #28) . Most of the songs were unfamiliar to the prisoners, but everyone seemed t o enjoy themselves . A few even came up afterward s offering thanks . The soundman was pretty cool . H e used to work for the Allman Brothers- I believe he's been in "the system" for 5 years now . Anyway , it was an interesting day, but it sure was a pies sure to walk away from that place after the con cert . (BOZ )

First on, Wampum Org . Their appearance of hig h school normality was charming and well-received- a welcome relief from the procession of trendy pretty-boys and pseudo tough-guys of late, Thes e four reminded me of the 'good boys' in grad e school : the ones who sat in the front row o f class, were appointed board monitor and were bea t up at recess . Aside from an anemic stage-presence, th e overly-long set is my only complaint with W .O . I f their diversity saves them from monotony, it is t o a fault ; Wampum Org has no identifiable sound . One must remember that they are young and I'm certai n will develop as to display their varied talents t o their best . Next up, The U-Boats . These were the 'bad boys " in school who used to beat up guys like Wampum Org . U-Boats have been around for years, but hav e never stayed together for long periods . This new line-up, however, looks promising- with Hitler , drums, Jay, guitar, Bob, bass, Mike, vocals, sex ; all quite young . Although I am unimpressed with most hardcor e bands I have seen, this was not the case here , This band had triple the stage-presence that W .O . should've had, but then, that's like comparin g turnips and eggs, right Bob ? Hitler's stamina on drums, Jay's agile guita r work, bassist Bob's near-explosion, outrun only b y vocalist Mike, fused together to create th e tightest gig I've ever seen by the U .B .'s, and they were still very raw . Opening with "Substitute " - an obscure Victim s tune- they were like live electrical wires , twitching and flashing about, drawing power fro m each other while giving it . Though I have yet t o hear the original version, I doubt it could'v e been better than this was . However, the U .B .'s rely on too many covers especially U .K . Subs . One of those featured wa s the unforgettable "Warhead " - very well-done . Another highlight- the Green Acres theme song . Their own work is strong and well written . New bassist Bob shows potential with "Land of th e Free", as do the other members ; they all write . They are also versatile and change instruments o n a few songs . This is one of those groups who have to b e seen . You will be able to hear them though, as th e U-Boats' single is to be released this week o n Crow Label with originals " Government Rip-Off" and " Breakout Tonight " . You owe it to yourself to give them a chance--even if you don't like hardcore ; they're one of the few groups who haven't sold ou t on us . Conclusion : A wonderfully un-trendy ni ght a t Trendies . -WENDY HOLIDAY DOUBLE 0 FROM DC IN SOUTH FLORIDA AT FINDER S 8/19/8 2 Walking into South Florida's finest clu b (which doesn't say much for South Florida or th e club) . I was pretty surprised to see such a smal l crowd, but later on found out the promoters fo r Double 0's first appearance at Finders Lounge onl y had two days to pass out flyers and advertise b y word of mouth . It wasn't bad, though, everybod y knew everybody else, and everybody else was drinking . Anyway, thinking they were quite cool, "Menstrual Cycles" opened up for Double O (with thei r parents' permission, of course) with the shittiest , p oorest excuse for whatever kind of music (shit ) you call it, I've ever been forced to sit, through . I moan, I even out my hand over my beer . Actually ,

WAMPUM ORG and THE U-BOAT S TRENDIES YBOR CITY, 7/30, 3 1 I attended this gig as a bored school-girl- expecting the worst from the least . Things have not been terribly exciting here lately . Fortunately, such boredom is 9supposedly0 a requiremen t before an enlightenment occurs ; this night it wa s true .

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I shouldn't complain, with each song lasting a bi g :58 seconds, their set was over in no time . Expecting to hate Double 0, the band gathere d to the stage, tuned up a bit, and blasted a tun e called " The End" . The song sounded great, but the y had to ruin it by dedicating it to the Abusers , which was an open invitation for the fucking ham s themselves to throw their bodies on the stage . I t looked like an episode of "CHiPs" about some pun k terrorists or something . I mean diving off th e stage into a mammoth crowd of sixteen? C'mon al ready! Well, besides the Abusers' annoying behavior , that they obviously thought was cool, the sho w progressed into a pretty interesting danceteria . As bodies slammed, collided, and bruised eac h other, Double 0 didn't quit for a second . Every song had a unique style that kept everybody o n their feet, and whoever else's they felt like . Double 0 consists of four members . Eric o n vocals (and good ones at that), Bert on a beat- y bass, Rich on drumsthat'll make your hair shak e (if you had any), and Jason on guitar that sounde d like two people playing . I ask you, is this some basis for a great band? Exactly . With hard, rhythmatic, original tunes lik e "Fade Out " , "death of a Friend", and my favorit e "D .C . On The Map" . I knew bands like this were hard to come by in this town . Small crowd or no crowd, I wouldn't miss Double 0 for free liquor . With 13 songs to their credit that evening , and half of them with undecipherable lyrics , Double 0 politically and dramatically culture d their audience . BY Michael Szymanski KILLING JOKE AT THE CHANNEL, BOSTON AUG . 19,198 2 I always found most of Killing Joke's records t o be somewhat irritating, repetitious, and heav y metal sounding . They were all of these thing s live . Lead singer 'Jaz' wore black camouflag e paint on his face and arms- he looked scary as hel l but only for a few minutes, because after watchin g him move around on stage, he looked just like a lost circus clown . The band did have a very powerful sound, the overbearing, pounding drums I like d until they became repetitious through every song . My conclusion of Killing Joke live : very loud, boring heavy metal . (A7.i .RN ESSER )

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he's quite good and adds slot to the band . Crucia l Truth are back in town for the next few months an d Leo's back on drums . Oh yeah . . .Gary got some new tatoos . He's got quite an art collection now . Latest rumor is that Mont really hates Killin g Joke- he just says he likes them 'cause they're more revolting than Adam Ant . Hey, Mont before you do another cartoon in retaliation- I'm onl y kidding! Seriously, Mont's an OK guy, and he put s out a zine with another OK guy, James . The name o f ?the zine is F .L .A . Decay . Send a buck or so t o them at 2925 Poinsettia St ., Ft . Lauderdale, Fl . , 33316 . CHEERS ! ANARCHY IN THE SECOND CIT Y CHICAGO HARDCORE BY DAVE REA D Well, here's my report from the 20th-centur y center of subterranean culture . Chicago- some ma y call it the Windy City . Some may call it the cit y that blows . The first thing I should discuss is the pun k bars, there aren't any . Last year the infamous Oz , scene of Autumn records' " Busted at Oz" live 12" , closed down . A few months later, O'Banions, formerly located on the lovely and scenic 800 bloc k of North Clark Street, closed down, leavin g Chicago without a punk venue . But all is not lost though . Through the hel p of our great local promoter Eric Nihilist, Thursday nights at Club C .O .D . has been established a s hardcore night . Once again punk bands have a plac e where they can get booked regularly . The Cubby Bear Lounge, a small pub on Chicago's North sid e also books punk bands occasionally . There are plenty of lighted discos all over Chicago that ar e just like a certain club with an unmentionable name in Lauderdale, but I won't get into them here . Now I guess I'll talk about the bands- firs t and foremost are the EFFIGIES, who should be appearing somewhere in South Florida by the time you read this . They look like the typical hardcoresya know, boots braces, and boneheads . Their sound though, is unique, somewhat slower and more sophisticated than most Clifornia punk bands . The y are a band that must be seen live to be appreciated . Their shows are no-holds-barred tota l thrash bashes . In Chicago their gigs are as violent as anything that happens in El Lay . On a recent tour of the West Coast they backed up the likes of the Dead Kennedys, the Circle Jerks, and DOA . In their home town, they have opened for th e U .K . Subs, X, Anti-Pasti, and the Rockats amon g others!!!??? They are favorites of both Keit h Moriss and Jello Biafra . Eral, the guitarist, may be the best axeman of any punk band in the country . Philo Cramer included . And the vocalist has th e stage presence of a lobotomized Joe Strummer . Check them out on the previously-mentione d "Busted at Oz" (Autumn Records, 2427 N . Jansen,

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They're fast, psychedelic, slow, trashy, noisy , and funny as hell so don't miss them . The bes t thing in Florida since Teddi and the Fratgirls!Th e Abusers have broken up and supposedly Matt an d Andy are forming a glitter band, to be calle d Saint or something like that . Oh well . . .the Menstrual Cycles are talking to NO FUTURE Record s about some vinyl . Let's wish them luck . Speakin g of English record deals, the Screaming Sneakers , (now called PSI Force) have a set up to do a coupl e of singles with Polygram UK . Congratulations! A new Larry Joe Miller single should be coming ou t on Open one of these days, also . . .finally saw Radi o Berlin at the disco awhile back . While I reall y don't care for their brand of music, their stag e set-up was awesome . It was all black (my fav e color) and they stood on these weird platform s that had these bright lights in them- I think the y were chicken egg incubators or something . . .speaking of eggs, we have no new Charlie Pickett new s this issue . Sorry . Also no new Eat news, excep t that Mrs . O'Brien had a baby boy and I got sic k on my cigar . Thanks Eddie! . . .Isaac Baruch's ne w band is the U .S . Furys . How 'bout a Reactions re union, Isaac? Coolest club in town is still Finder's . . .27 Birds is OK, but a bit conservative (n o HC) . The New Wave Lounge still has the best booze . Thanks George! The Essentials have a new bassis t (again) . His name is Henry, and from what I saw,

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Chicago, Ill . 60614), their over-produced bu t still powerful "Haunted Town" EP previously re leased on Autumn but now distributed by their own Ruthless label (Ruthless Records, 319 S . Jefferson Chicago, Ill ., 60606) and their brilliant new 7 " "Bodybag/Security , also on the Ruthless label . Another one of my favorite Chicago bands i s the relatively new group ARTICLES OF FAITH . The y are an unpretentious 4-piece slam band that play s fast and tight . Their drummer is the best on th e Chicago scene . They have gone over well openin g for Fear and Black Flag . No wax from these guys , but I'm hoping . One of Chicago's favorite local groups is th e skinhead trio TRIAL BY FIRE . They are the secon d incarnation of STRIKE UNDER (see "Busted at Oz") . Three members of STRIKE UNDER got rid of thei r lead singer to form this much tighter three-piece . They play extra-simple three minute masterpiece s with a distinct CRASS influence . No word on an y records from these boneheads . Also, still making noise on the Chicago scene are the SUBVERTS . Sure, their performance o n "Busted at Oz" kinda sucks (they also have a 7" E P available), but they have gotten a hell of a lo t better since . I saw them do a great set at O'Ban .. ions last year, despite the fact that only about a dozen people came to see them . Definitely wort h checking out . Another interesting band worth mentioning i s DV8 . I cought them two years ago when they were a New W_ E band trying to sound like the Buzzocks . Now have dropped the pop and hopped on th e hardcore bandwagon . I have only seen them onc e since their metamorphosis . And I have to admit tha t I was quite impressed . Last but least is SIX FEET UNDER . They hav e been playing the dives for several years now . Unfortunately, they are just about Chicago's onl y politically-oriented punk band . Memebers of thi s four-piece can be identified by a stupid facia l expression and an equally stupid political sloga n on the back of a leather or denim jacket . Thei r guitarist was one of the mongoloid boneheads o n the Phil Donahue show a few months ago . They wast e some wax on the B .A .O . Live LP and are threatenin g to release a 12" EP . A must buy for anyone who i s into skeet shooting . Oh yeah, I should mention that recently ther e has been a small flurry of activity centered i n exotic, suburban Downer's Grove, Illinois . I've heard slot of good things about a group calle d RIGHTS OF THE ACCUSED, though I have yet to chec k them out personally . So there you have it . Admittedly, the scene is pretty bleak, considering th e fact that Chicago is the second larggst city i n the U .S . However, there are several great bands i n the area that are not getting the publicity (an d the recording contracts) that they deserve simpl y because they are not from L .A . or San Francisco o r New York . The EFFIGIES, ARTICLES OF FAITH, an d TRIAL BY FIRE are just as good or better than an y of the groups that have come from those cities i n the past year or two . Remember, don't miss the EFFIGIES when they come here some time this fall . Oh yeah, Jon Hope, DIE KRUZEN is not the onl y Wisconsin hardcore . HUSKER DU plays Chicago alot . They are a three-piece with a fine LP called Land Speed Record" (on New Alliance) Their sound i s very loud, very noisy and very fast . And they hav e a drummer who looks like Pugsley from the Addam s Family . I witnessed a HUSKER DU gig at Oz 2 year s ago where said Pugsley clone went into a back roo m and returned with a 5-gallon can of blue paint . H e proceeded to open the can and shower the audienc e with it . A band undoubtedly destined for a gues t appearance on Solid Gold .

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RAY GUN GOES BACK TO HOLLYWOO D "An Observation" by TML Why was it that most people were pro-war bac k before Pearl Harbor and during the wars that followed? In the 4O's the government financed producers and studios to make movies that portrayed wa r as Fun! Adventurous! Romantic! You know, the kin d where Johnny always came home to his girl, The y brainwashed this country into wanting to go t O war . They needed to get the country into the righ t frame of mind . War was the salvation of a depressed economy and high unemployment, and movies were the perfect vehicle . When the vets relayed storie s from Vietnam, they said at first they felt like they were in a John Wayne movie, jumping off th e helicopter with everyone, until a buddy's head got blown off next to him . Mom never bothered to portray those grisly details . "So what?", most assholes would reply . Fuckin WAKE UP! Seen or heard of "An Office r and A Gentleman" or "Inchon"? Seen the unemployment rate? RayGun strikes again! He's getting thi s country acclimated to the 'patriotism' of it all , the self-righteousness of the U .S . to be mediato r of conflict, anywhere, especially where we don' t belong . (Beirut ring a bell?) He's trying to be s o slick, easing us into the idea, keeping the jo b market squeezed tight . Starting up registration for the draft again . Where the hell is all the awareness we had

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