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Sheikh Ibn e Arabi

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
Shaykh Muhyiddn Ibn Arabi was a scholar of the seventh century. He hailed from Spain and was a leading scholar of his era. He excelled in all sciences of Islmic knowledge. He had authored hundreds books on different topics. He was recognized for his piety and profound knowledge in Tasawwuf. He is counted amongst the great Sufis and was given the title Shaykhul Akbar (the great Saint) and Muhyiddn (the reviver of dn). Allmah Sharni in his Al-Tabaqt al-Kubr, Izzuddn ibnus Sallm, Safiyyuddn bin Abil Mansr, Shaykh Muhammad Al-Yfi and other Scholars, have praised him.
Ibn Hajar Al-Makki says regarding him:
There is unanimity that Ibn Arabi was the most knowledgeable Scholar of his era, as he mastered every science of Islmic knowledge.And there is unanimity that he was the most pious in his era, most staunch on the Sunna and the greatest in self-sacrifice. (Al-Fatw al-Hadthiyya, pg 210, Al-Fikr)
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Ibn Arabi held a high rank in Ilm (knowledge) and Tasawwuf. However, some Scholars expressed doubts concerning his Aqda (belief), especially concerning the concept Wahdah Al-Wujd. Amongst them were Imm Ibn Taymiyya AlHarrni, Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhb and Imm Dhahabi. Ibn Taymiyya AlHarrni was amongst the first that expressed doubt. In fact, some labelled him as Kfir (wana zubillh).
However, it is important to point out that these doubts concerning Ibn Arabi were due to misunderstanding the writings and terminologies used by Ibn Arabi. The writings of Ibn Arabi are profound, intense and philosophical. Many terminologies used by Ibn Arabi were not understood by all. It was mainly the Sufis and those involved in spiritual exercises that really understood his writings. Therefore, it was the misunderstanding of these scholars that lead them to doubt the legitimacy of Ibn Arabi.
Ibn Arabi stated:
It is not permissible for those that do not understand our terminologies to study our books (Al-Fatw al-Hadthiyya, pg 211, Al-Fikr)
The late Grand Mufti of Deoband, Mufti Mahmd Al-Hasan Ganghohi had stated that there is a lot of misunderstanding regarding Ibn Arabi.
Allmah Sharni and Mawlna Ashraf Ali Thnwi had written Al-Yawqt wal Jawhir and Al-Tanbih al-Turba respectively, to clear the doubts and reservations held against Ibn Arabi. Many other books have been authored in support of Ibn Arabi. Therefore, Ibn Arabi was an accepted Scholar.
The books of Ibn Arabi are of two types: 1. Basic books: These are straight forward and simple books to understand. For example, books that discuss Ahlq (character), Tarbiya (upbringing) etc. It is advisable to read these books.
2. Complex books: Those that discuss the concepts of Tasawwuf and other intricate issues. These books should not be studied alone. The tutelage and guidance of a competent Scholar should be sought. Ibn Hajar Makki has warned against studying these books alone.
Refer to: Al- Fatw al-Hadthiyya, pg 210, 211, Dar Al-Fikr) Al-Tabaqt al-Kubr of Sharni, vol 1, pg 260, Dar Al-Fikr) Fatw Al-Mahmdiyya, vol 4, pg 469, Frqiyya)
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And Allah knows best Wassalamu Alaikum Ml. Talha Desai, Student Darul Iftaa Checked and Approved by: Mufti Ebrahim Desai Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...c6a22ce576738f
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Re: Sheikh Ibn e Arabi

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In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
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Shaykh Muhyiddn Ibn Arabi was a scholar of the seventh century. He hailed from Spain and was a leading scholar of his era. He excelled in all sciences of Islmic knowledge. He had authored hundreds books on different topics. He was recognized for his piety and profound knowledge in Tasawwuf. He is counted amongst the great Sufis and was given the title Shaykhul Akbar (the great Saint) and Muhyiddn (the reviver of dn). Allmah Sharni in his AlTabaqt al-Kubr, Izzuddn ibnus Sallm, Safiyyuddn bin Abil Mansr, Shaykh Muhammad Al-Yfi and other Scholars, have praised him.
Ibn Hajar Al-Makki says regarding him:
There is unanimity that Ibn Arabi was the most knowledgeable Scholar of his era, as he mastered every science of Islmic knowledge.And there is unanimity that he was the most pious in his era, most staunch on the Sunna and the greatest in self-sacrifice. (Al-Fatw al-Hadthiyya, pg 210, Al-Fikr)
Ibn Arabi held a high rank in Ilm (knowledge) and Tasawwuf. However, some Scholars expressed doubts concerning his Aqda (belief), especially concerning the concept Wahdah Al-Wujd. Amongst them were Imm Ibn Taymiyya AlHarrni, Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhb and Imm Dhahabi. Ibn Taymiyya AlHarrni was amongst the first that expressed doubt. In fact, some labelled him as Kfir (wana zubillh).
However, it is important to point out that these doubts concerning Ibn Arabi were due to misunderstanding the writings and terminologies used by Ibn Arabi. The writings of Ibn Arabi are profound, intense and philosophical. Many terminologies used by Ibn Arabi were not understood by all. It was mainly the Sufis and those involved in spiritual exercises that really understood his writings. Therefore, it was the misunderstanding of these scholars that lead them to doubt the legitimacy of Ibn Arabi.
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Ibn Arabi stated:
It is not permissible for those that do not understand our terminologies to study our books (Al-Fatw al-Hadthiyya, pg 211, Al-Fikr)
Allmah Sharni and Mawlna Ashraf Ali Thnwi had written Al-Yawqt wal Jawhir and Al-Tanbih al-Turba respectively, to clear the doubts and reservations held against Ibn Arabi. Many other books have been authored in support of Ibn Arabi. Therefore, Ibn Arabi was an accepted Scholar.
The books of Ibn Arabi are of two types: 1. Basic books: These are straight forward and simple books to understand. For example, books that discuss Ahlq (character), Tarbiya (upbringing) etc. It is advisable to read these books.
2. Complex books: Those that discuss the concepts of Tasawwuf and other intricate issues. These books should not be studied alone. The tutelage and guidance of a competent Scholar should be sought. Ibn Hajar Makki has warned against studying these books alone.
Refer to: Al- Fatw al-Hadthiyya, pg 210, 211, Dar Al-Fikr) Al-Tabaqt al-Kubr of Sharni, vol 1, pg 260, Dar Al-Fikr) Fatw Al-Mahmdiyya, vol 4, pg 469, Frqiyya)
And Allah knows best Wassalamu Alaikum Ml. Talha Desai, Student Darul Iftaa Checked and Approved by: Mufti Ebrahim Desai Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...c6a22ce576738f
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Brother there is difference between Ibn AlArabi al maliki and Ibn Arabi they called the second Ibn arabi as to diffrentiate him from the maliki imam ibn Al arabi may allah have mercy on his soul The second one is the sufi which was said that hes murtad.
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02-01-10, 10:51 PM #3
Mujahid12

dear AKH in islam, this is about the Sufi Ibn e Arabi, but just because some call him kafir doesnt make him kafir. Many people are called kafirs, do you know Allama Iqbal was called a kafir?
02-01-10, 10:52 PM
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Abu Jaffar


brother read this http://saaid.net/feraq/sufyah/sh/5.htm
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brother its not about reading this or that. you read the books mentioned in the article do you know Allama Shami who wrote raddul mukhtar?
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Originally Posted by Abu Jaffar
brother read this http://saaid.net/feraq/sufyah/sh/5.htm
how you gona give dowah to the one who obv follows the murtad, these sufi's are a joke. call a spade a spade and they get angry.
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Brother there is difference between Ibn AlArabi al maliki and Ibn Arabi they called the second Ibn arabi as to diffrentiate him from the maliki imam ibn Al arabi may allah have mercy on his soul The second one is the sufi which was said that hes murtad.
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I didn't know there were two of them. I am reading the Treaty of Love (in French so i translated as i understand it) by Ibn Arabi so which one is it? Mine lived during the 12TH century. It is quite complicated but beautiful to read. Apparently it is part of : Kitab al Futuhat al-Makkiya fi ma'rifat al-asrar almalikiyya wa al-mulkiyya. Or maybe it is none of them
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Abu Jaffar


its a branch of the hanafi madhab
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junaid123
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do you know Allama Shami who wrote raddul mukhtar?
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Mulla ali qaari(rh) also called him kafir if i remember correctly. A lot of hanafi scholar called him kafir. I dont read his any work at all, and to think is he kafir and not, isnt my business.
Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) is also reported to have said: He who is very hasty and so bold as to pass verdicts is also bold in taking the path towards hell
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Abu Jaffar


Originally Posted by Massilia
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I didn't know there were two of them. I am reading the Treaty of Love (in French so i translated as i understand it) by Ibn Arabi so which one is it? Mine lived during the 12TH century. It is quite complicated but beautiful to read. Apparently it is part of : Kitab al Futuhat al-Makkiya fi ma'rifat al-asrar almalikiyya wa al-mulkiyya. Or maybe it is none of them
it is the sufi one
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02-01-10, 11:02 PM #12
Massilia


it is the sufi one
Alright and that's not good to read then if he's a sufi? I wanted to buy all of his work with Al Ghazali
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02-01-10, 11:05 PM
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you guys just listen to one side of the story, yes many can call him kafir but Allah knows he was not, many dont call him kafir. allama ibn e abideen asshami rahimahullah, can u tell me what he has written about muhammad bin abdul wahab in his Raddul mukhtar?
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Have you read any of Ibn Arabi's works (Fusoos in particular)?
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"..And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him." [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-D' wad-Daw Fasl 49]
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Abu Jaffar


Alright and that's not good to read then if he's a sufi? I wanted to buy all of his work with Al Ghazali
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for example Ibn Arabi says the dog could be Allah wal eyatho bellah because they are all one. lastly i urge people to stick to the quran and sunnah all the best are in these books. this is an important lecture by imam anwar al awlaki please hear it well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCSd2oKC_ts
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Mujahid12

for example Ibn Arabi says the dog could be Allah wal eyatho bellah because they are all one. lastly i urge people to stick to the quran and sunnah all the best are in these books. this is an important lecture by imam anwar al awlaki please hear it well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCSd2oKC_ts
can u state the reference please
02-01-10, 11:14 PM
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lastsultan
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Whats going on with you Mujahid12, you used to make some solid posts now days Wahdat ul Wujood and now your bigging up Ibn Arabi?? Brother Abu Jafar tries to give you hidaya and you just ignore it out of hand?
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Mujahid12

Originally Posted by lastsultan
Whats going on with you Mujahid12, you used to make some solid posts now days Wahdat ul Wujood and now your bigging up Ibn Arabi?? Brother Abu Jafar tries to give you hidaya and you just ignore it out of hand?
wahdat ul wujood, these people brought up, that post was very clear. if u have any doubt and if you can prove what i quoted is wrong then please do. Secondly, can u prove im misguided? are the muftis on www.askimam.org who spent their lives studying deen, they more learned or brother Abu Jafar more learned? Who should i follow? A unknown Abu Jafar who doesnt even read what i post or Mufti Ibrahim Desai who the whole world knows?
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Massilia


for example Ibn Arabi says the dog could be Allah wal eyatho bellah because they are all one.
Then he is implying some kind of incarnation? But it is really weird, it is unlikely with what i am reading, do you know in which
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book he says this?
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Originally Posted by lastsultan
Brother Abu Jafar tries to give you hidaya ?
only Allah can give hidayah

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Mujahid12

Eww this is disgraceful. But it is really weird it is unlikely with what i am reading, do you know in which book he says this?
brother they just take things out of context and paste it. they dont even know what the author is talking about. just like you say in Quran Allah says Don't come near Salah when you are drunk.. it means you can drink but cant come near Salah.. out of context. they havent even read ibn e arabi's books themselves, just hearsay. They havent read the books of Ulama who explain what ibn e arabi meant. Just hearsay!
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Abu Jaffar


Eww this is disgraceful. But it is really weird it is unlikely with what i am reading, do you know in which book he says this?
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a book called but i dont recommend you to read this. it will spoil your thinking and time.
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Originally Posted by junaid123
only Allah can give hidayah
im sure he meant naseeha inshAllah
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Massilia


brother they just take things out of context and paste it. they dont even know what the author is talking about. just like you say in Quran Allah says Don't come near Salah when you are drunk.. it means you can drink but cant come near Salah.. out of context. they havent even read ibn e arabi's books themselves, just hearsay. They havent read the books of Ulama who explain what ibn e arabi meant. Just hearsay!
Ok, by the way i am a sister
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Ibn Hajar said: Some confusing words of Ibn Arabi were mentioned to our master Shaykh alIslam Siraaj al-Deen al-Balqeeni, and he was asked about Ibn Arabi. Our Shaykh al-Balqeeni said: he is a kaafir. (Ibid., p. 39). Ibn Khaldoon said: Among these Sufis are: Ibn Arabi, Ibn Sabaeen, Ibn Barrajaan and their followers who follow their path and their religion. They have many books in circulation that are filled with blatant kufr and repugnant bidahs, trying to interpret clear texts in very far-fetched and repugnant ways, such that the reader is astounded that anyone could attribute such things to Islam. (Ibid., p. 41).
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Al-Subki said: These later Sufis, such as Ibn Arabi and his followers, are misguided and ignorant and beyond the pale of Islam; those among them who have knowledge are even worse. (Ibid., p. 55). Abu Zarah ibn al-Haafiz al-Iraaqi said: Undoubtedly the famous book Al-Fusoos contains blatant kufr, as does alFutoohaat al-Makkiyyah. If it is true that he wrote this and continued to believe in it until he died, then he is a kaafir who is doomed to eternity in Hell, no doubt about it. (Ibid., p. 60).
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Massilia


a book called but i dont recommend you to read this. it will spoil your thinking and time.
I don't read Arabic yet translate it in French ?

do you have the title in English so that i can
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junaid123
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allama ibn e abideen asshami rahimahullah, can u tell me what he has written about muhammad bin abdul wahab in his Raddul mukhtar?
A khwarij?
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But same time he considerd ibn taymiyah(rh) as a trustworthy person? Even took him as hujjah for hnafi fiqh where he himself couldnt find any evidence!!
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Dhulkarnein
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Assalam alaikum
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The book "Kernel of Kernel" of Ismail Haqqi P 44 and after:

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Ibn 'Arabi continuing, says as follows: "God created His own Being, but intelligences could not understand this. This is clear shirk , SubhanAllah The book "Kernel of Kernel" of Ismail Haqqi even if he didnt mean this , this words are shirk , all his books are philosophy
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Mujahid12

where are you guys copy/pasting from? and what is filosofi?
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Mujahid12

A khwarij? But same time he considerd ibn taymiyah(rh) as a trustworthy person? Even took him as hujjah for hnafi fiqh where he himself couldnt find any evidence!!
any example?
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aG123

Originally Posted by aG123
Ibn Hajar said: Some confusing words of Ibn Arabi were mentioned to our master Shaykh alIslam Siraaj al-Deen al-Balqeeni, and he was asked about Ibn Arabi. Our Shaykh al-Balqeeni said: he is a kaafir. (Ibid., p. 39). Ibn Khaldoon said: Among these Sufis are: Ibn Arabi, Ibn Sabaeen, Ibn Barrajaan and their followers who follow their path and their religion. They have many books in circulation that are filled with blatant kufr and repugnant bidahs, trying to interpret clear texts in very far-fetched and repugnant ways, such that the
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reader is astounded that anyone could attribute such things to Islam. (Ibid., p. 41). Al-Subki said: These later Sufis, such as Ibn Arabi and his followers, are misguided and ignorant and beyond the pale of Islam; those among them who have knowledge are even worse. (Ibid., p. 55). Abu Zarah ibn al-Haafiz al-Iraaqi said: Undoubtedly the famous book Al-Fusoos contains blatant kufr, as does alFutoohaat al-Makkiyyah. If it is true that he wrote this and continued to believe in it until he died, then he is a kaafir who is doomed to eternity in Hell, no doubt about it. (Ibid., p. 60).
Everyone just going to ignore the statements which some him up from the scholars?? another Al-Faasi said: I heard our companion al-Haafiz al-Hujjah al-Qaadi Shihaab al-Deen Ahmad ibn Ali ibn Hajar al-Shaafai say: there were many disputes about Ibn Arabi between me and one of those who like Ibn Arabi, until I insulted him because of the bad things that he had said, but that did not make the man change his mind. He threatened to complain about me to the Sultaan in Egypt with regard to a matter that was different from that which we were arguing about, just to cause trouble for me. I said to him: the Sultaan has nothing to do with this! Come, let us make Mubaahalah [call our sons, our wives and ourselves and pray and invoke the Curse of Allaah upon those who lie cf. Aal Imraan 3:61]. It is very rare, when people make Mubaahalah and one of them is lying, for that one to go unpunished. So he said to me, Bismillaah [i.e, he agreed]. And I said to him: Say: O Allaah, if Ibn Arabi is misguided, then curse me with Your Curse so he said that. Then I said, O Allaah, if Ibn Arabi is rightly-guided, then curse me with Your Curse. Then we parted. Then we met in a park in Egypt on a moonlit night, and he said to us, Something soft touched my leg, look! So we looked but we did not see anything. Then he checked his eyes and he could not see anything (i.e., Allaah had afflicted him with blindness). This is the meaning of what Al-Haafiz Shihaab al-Deen ibn Hajar al-Asqallaani told me. (Ibid., p. 75, 76).
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brother they just take things out of context and paste it. they dont even know what the author is talking about. just like you say in Quran Allah says Don't come near Salah when you are drunk.. it means you can drink but cant come near Salah..
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out of context. they havent even read ibn e arabi's books themselves, just hearsay. They havent read the books of Ulama who explain what ibn e arabi meant. Just hearsay!
Have you read his book 'Fusoos'??
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"..And verily for everything that a slave loses there is a substitute, but the one who loses Allah will never find anything to replace Him." [Related by Ibn al-Qayyim in ad-D' wad-Daw Fasl 49]
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assalam alaikum and what is filosofi? sorry , i wrote in my own langue , it phisolophy , you have greece , roman etc
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any example?
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: : : . : : I saw in al-Saarim al-Maslool by Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah the following: "As for Abu Hanifah and his disciples..." So Ibn Taymiyyah states that, according to us [i.e. Hanafis], it is permissible to kill him if he repeats [a crime like a Dhimmi swearing at the Prophet] and does it openly. As for Ibn Taymiyyah's statement: "... even if he accepted Islam after he was caught", then I have not seen this explicitly stated by anyone of us [Hanafis]. However, [Ibn Taymiyyah] reported it from our school of law, and he is trustworthy, therefore it is accepted [as our law]. Vol. 6, Page 346, Haashiyah Ibn Aabideen, Dar Aalam al-Kutub special edition, 2003/1423.
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Allmah Sharni and Mawlna Ashraf Ali Thnwi had written AlYawqt wal Jawhir and Al-Tanbih al-Turba respectively, to clear the doubts and reservations held against Ibn Arabi. Many other books have been authored in support of Ibn Arabi. Therefore, Ibn Arabi was an accepted Scholar. All those who are just copy/pasting things without even readin the books themselves, please i would advise and request them that they do not have to say someone is Kafir when alot of ulama dont say he is Kafir. Can they get these books and read them please.
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: : : . : : I saw in al-Saarim al-Maslool by Sheikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah the following: "As for Abu Hanifah and his disciples..." So Ibn Taymiyyah states that, according to us [i.e. Hanafis], it is permissible to kill him if he repeats [a crime like a Dhimmi swearing at the Prophet] and does it openly. As for Ibn Taymiyyah's statement: "... even if he accepted Islam after he was caught", then I have not seen this explicitly stated by anyone of us [Hanafis]. However, [Ibn Taymiyyah] reported it from our school of law, and he is trustworthy, therefore it is accepted [as our law]. Vol. 6, Page 346, Haashiyah Ibn Aabideen, Dar Aalam al-Kutub special edition, 2003/1423.
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where do you guys get the english translations from, really dude i have so much .trouble getting these english translations and quoting them here
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Assalam alaikum All those who are just copy/pasting things without even readin the books themselves, please i would advise and request them that they do not have to say someone is Kafir when alot of ulama dont say he is Kafir. Can they get .these books and read them please
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please i would advise and request them that they do not have to say someone is Kafir when alot of ulama dont say he is Kafir.
A lt isnt even more than 20 in the rank of above scholars mentioned. Again, peple should be warned about this works, and doing takfir isnt our Job. As long as his works are forbidden for us, its enough. But to note: some anti madhabist praised him from his anti works against madhab, as he "attend" to be a zahiri.
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Ibn Hajar said: Some confusing words of Ibn Arabi were mentioned to our master Shaykh alIslam Siraaj al-Deen al-Balqeeni, and he was asked about Ibn Arabi. Our Shaykh al-Balqeeni said: he is a kaafir. (Ibid., p. 39). Ibn Khaldoon said: Among these Sufis are: Ibn Arabi, Ibn Sabaeen, Ibn Barrajaan and their followers who follow their path and their religion. They have many books in circulation that are filled with blatant kufr and repugnant bidahs, trying to interpret clear texts in very far-fetched and repugnant ways, such that the reader is astounded that anyone could attribute such things to Islam. (Ibid., p. 41). Al-Subki said: These later Sufis, such as Ibn Arabi and his followers, are misguided and ignorant and beyond the pale of Islam; those among them who have knowledge are even worse. (Ibid., p. 55). Abu Zarah ibn al-Haafiz al-Iraaqi said: Undoubtedly the famous book Al-Fusoos contains blatant kufr, as does alFutoohaat al-Makkiyyah. If it is true that he wrote this and continued to believe in it until he died, then he is a kaafir who is doomed to eternity in Hell,
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no doubt about it.
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can u state the reference please

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book he says this?