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Display Modes #1 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 400
Nomadz
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Note: For informational purposes only and not an action condoned or recommended by this site or its owners. Though none of my own Hi Powers have the magazine disconnects left in place, it should be understood that the option to do this is the individual owner's personal choice and his responsibility.....Stephen A. Camp Here are pics of the process i just completed on my latest P-35s one a Browning the other an FM. Assemble tools punches (or good nails if your a tightwad)and a hammer and electricians tape. Tape over the taper pin/trigger pin on the side of the guns reciever you intend to drive it from after stripping to frame/reciever only.
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I Punch out Left to Right (the flat not the taper side)through electricians tape to protect the frame with firm hammer hits to the punch or nail.I have done it this way for years works for me the 'proper' way is Right to Left.
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__________________ "The sunshine bores the daylights outta me......." Keith Richards
Last edited by Stephen A. Camp : 03-07-2006 at 01:52 AM.
01-15-2006, 03:40 AM
#2 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 400
Nomadz
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Rotate trigger and mag safety mechanism out of the frame through trigger housing (its fiddly----compress the mag safety)
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sit trigger assembly on bench and remove trigger lever then punch out pin in trigger which retains the mag disconnect safety
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01-15-2006, 03:45 AM
Nomadz
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remove the mag disconnect safety and spring and either discard the pin or replace it for a clean look.
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reassemble the trigger and lever and rotate back in to frame replace taper pin/trigger pin.Taper should end up on the Right side of the frame.
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Last edited by Nomadz : 01-19-2006 at 03:26 AM.
01-15-2006, 03:51 AM
Nomadz
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Fully restored then lubricate and reassemble here the Browning FN frame and FM after the mag disconnectectomy
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Fully restored with no disconnects trigger pull is nicer and the gun is improved as a carry gun in my own opinion.
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Presented for information only if you do this modification it is at your own risk and should be checked by a gunsmith qualified to examine the pistol before use. .......................enjoy. __________________ "The sunshine bores the daylights outta me......." Keith Richards
01-15-2006, 07:20 AM #5 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 381
Bob Reed
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Hello, Trigger pins are to be driven out from right to left, and reinstalled from left to right. Take Care, __________________ "LONG LIVE THE FN-BROWNING-SAIVE HIGH POWER" What does a Browning Machine Gun and James Burton's Pink Paisley Telecaster have
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in common? They both make the most beautiful Rock Roll music one will ever hear.
01-15-2006, 11:34 AM #6 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 400
Nomadz
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Sockman thanks for the correction.However i have never noticed a difference with the trigger pin works either side for me in the dozen or so i have done. __________________ "The sunshine bores the daylights outta me......." Keith Richards
01-15-2006, 03:54 PM
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POB
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Thanks for showing and the illustrations were great.
01-15-2006, 05:26 PM
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joewest
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why not just punch the pin out of the trigger while its still in place ?
01-15-2006, 05:53 PM #9 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: California Posts: 532
M1911Arch
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Originally Posted by joewest why not just punch the pin out of the trigger while its still in place ? Unless you have something holds the gun and trigger firmly in place, you'd be battering the trigger against the frame while trying to punch out the pin. Not a fun thing to do! __________________ My liberal definition of gun control: buy as much as you can afford.
01-15-2006, 06:17 PM
Nomadz
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Quote:
Unless you have something holds the gun and trigger firmly in place, you'd be battering the trigger against the frame while trying to punch out the pin. Not a fun thing to do!
exactly............. __________________ "The sunshine bores the daylights outta me......." Keith Richards
01-15-2006, 08:49 PM
#11 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5
joewest
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i rested my trigger on a wooden dowl, and held the frame while removing the pin. i dont think it caused any harm since the force was being directed into the dowl.
01-15-2006, 09:26 PM
#12 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: currently in NW INDIANA Age: 51 Posts: 325
thaddeus43
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any chance we can make this a sticky?????
01-16-2006, 08:34 AM
#13 Join Date: May 2004 Location: SW Illinois Age: 52 Posts: 146
COF
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When I removed my mag disconnect, I noticed my trigger went a lot further forward and I didn't like the feel of it. So I pulled the trigger back out, degreased the disconnect tunnel, squezzed several drops of red lok-tite in it and then stuck the disconnect back in with the flat edge down. I let it set over night and put it back in the gun. That was five years and a few thousand rounds ago - haven't had a bit of problem with it. __________________ COF Youth and skill are no match for old age and treachery
01-18-2006, 12:28 PM
#14 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Northern VA Age: 59 Posts: 64
mister2
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The exception to every rule....
...is my CDNN FN HP. 1. Tried the "easy" way. Supported trigger and punched out mag disconnect pin. That came out easy! Spoke too soon. Turns out, my FN is the version that WILL NOT allow the mag disconnect to be removed from the frame this way. The entire trigger assembly has to come out first.... 2. Masked the frame every which way and started tapping, hammering finally, and gave it a few good WHACKS (right to left, as I've read everywhere else). The rounded end of the trigger pin started to flatten. Back to the web where I read that, in fact some HPs really do NOT respond to disaseembly this way. These *exceptional* HPs need to be *pressed* apart. I even tried left-to-right. No budge. I would have wanted to send it to a good smith, and have the work properly done with a 1,000 ton atomic press, or whatever, but that would've made the gun double in cost, including shipping, etc. This creek was starting to smell, and I didn't, as yet, have a paddle. After letting it sit a couple of weeks, I went back and looked at ALL the moving/sliding parts, including the magazine's front surface, where the disconnector slides up and down, and applied automotive rubbing compound with a toothpick and just exercised the entire trigger group for an hour or so each day for weeks. Eventually, the pull got a lot better. The grit is gone, the creep has been reduced so the letoff is predictable. It's not a "custom" anything, but it is a pure stock HP that has an acceptable pull. Lemonade tastes good. MR2 PS. During the couple of weeks I set the pistol aside for its own protection, I debated whether a design so lame as the mag disconnect, especially applied to a mag surface that is parkerized, could ever come from Browning. Maybe it was Saive that did it. Perhaps the design actually was not so bad with blued parts, but when FN (or their jobber) goes crazy with parkerizing everything, watch out! The trigger on mine was so bad I kept thinking it was on safety all the time. Oh, and the trigger pin? I bet there's parkerizing in there, too. But I don't care, now.
01-19-2006, 03:28 AM
Nomadz
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Guys thanks i have adjusted the instructions to include the "correct" way as well as my standard way. __________________ "The sunshine bores the daylights outta me......." Keith Richards
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02-28-2006, 07:30 PM
#16 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 31
davewhite
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took me 10 minutes and the trigger now feels better Thanks for this post P.S yes i saved all the old parts and the pin and will put them back in if i ever sell the HP __________________ My new site http://www.handgunplace.com/
03-01-2006, 10:37 AM
#17 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Belgium Age: 23 Posts: 613
T@Gger
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My trigger pin won't move just like mister2's If I hit my gun any harder I'll probably damage it, still the pin doesn't budge __________________ Glock 19, FN HP Practical, Sphinx 3000 Competition Colt M1911A1, SW 1911 Steyr Gewehr98/M1912 7x57 Mauser
03-01-2006, 01:35 PM
Nomadz
Member
Try soaking some WD 40 on it for about 30 minutes liberally them give it a good solid whack!!!!!!!! __________________ "The sunshine bores the daylights outta me......." Keith Richards
03-11-2006, 09:27 PM #19 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1
JJ Hiryuu
Junior Member
Mine is also an FN HP from CDNN, and yes, mine also will not budge. I was looking at the HP as a carry weapon, thinking to myself "Oh, look how easy it is to remove that annoying worthless safety". No 'the jury will hang you' comments please. I tried soaking mine in every metal lubricant I have on hand, I put it in a vise, I tried hammering from both sides. Now I have a HP whose mags don't drop free, trigger
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stinks, and has a deformed trigger pin, not to mention a few minor scuffs. Not too fond of the mushy manual safety either. The gun shoots great, despite the gritty trigger, and I like it's size, but I'm really looking hard at a CZ75 now. I figure if I get the bug for a HP again later I can buy an FM, and feel a lot better about hammering on it. Anyone else suspecting the trigger pin held in place by pure unobtainium is common to the new FNs? Specifically the ones CDNN is selling? EDIT: I just realized I'd never posted here before, but apparently registered. So, hi!
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03-12-2006, 12:36 AM
#20 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 78
msnyder52
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Mine came right out with a punch and hammer. Trigger pull is much better than before.
03-12-2006, 09:01 AM
#21 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Belgium Age: 23 Posts: 613
T@Gger
Member
well mine was removed try hitting the triggerpin flush with the right side of the frame first and use a large punch (larger then the top of the triggerpin), when the pin is flush you should switch to a more slender punch __________________ Glock 19, FN HP Practical, Sphinx 3000 Competition Colt M1911A1, SW 1911 Steyr Gewehr98/M1912 7x57 Mauser
03-31-2006, 10:18 PM
#22 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 19
marklbucla
Junior Member
Is it easy to do on the SFS models or is it only the SA's that are giving people problems?
05-04-2006, 12:44 PM
#23 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Utah, USA Age: 23 Posts: 355
Thefumegator
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During the couple of weeks I set the pistol aside for its own protection, I debated whether a design so lame as the mag disconnect, especially applied to a mag surface that is parkerized, could ever come from Browning. Maybe it was Saive
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that did it. Perhaps the design actually was not so bad with blued parts, but when FN (or their jobber) goes crazy with parkerizing everything, watch out! The trigger on mine was so bad I kept thinking it was on safety all the time.
Actually, having tried both blued and parked mags, the blued is MUCH worse than the parkerized. I have an opposite experience; My CDNN FN's mag disconnect came out just fine, but my '94 Browning's won't. It needs a press. I have the slightly flattened trigger pin to prove it. One day, when I get the money... Wes __________________ MOLON LABE!!! *WARNING* WATCH FOR FLYING BRASS
08-07-2006, 10:25 PM
#24 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Peoples Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 11
spencerhut
Junior Member Busted my Hi-Power Cherry
I just followed the instructions and it worked as advertised. You do need to give the pin one good whack to break it free and then to reseat it flush.
08-23-2006, 07:26 PM #25 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: N. California Posts: 87
nickster
Member
WOW! Took ten minutes and its like a new gun. Trigger is great. Thank you for posting this.
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