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1 P R O C E E D I N G S

2 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the

3 continuation of the 9/11 tapes, severe weather

4 position 4. Time now: 14:40:30 Zulu.

5 MALE SPEAKER 1: (Inaudible) shut down.

6 (Inaudible) from Indianapolis (inaudible).

7 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. Now, I've got a

8 response on the ATCO.

9 MALE SPEAKER 1: Go ahead, sir.

10 MALE SPEAKER 2: Stand by on that. It's

11 under discussion.

12 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. We'd also like to

13 know as far as to the (inaudible), is Philadelphia

14 available as a landing site for that craft?

15 MALE SPEAKER 2: I'll have to check on

16 that one.

17 MALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you.

18 (Elapsed time: 53 seconds.)

19 MALE SPEAKER 2: FAA back to air traffic

20 command.

21 MALE SPEAKER 1: Go ahead there.

22 MALE SPEAKER 2: Can you confirm you're

23 requesting information regarding Philadelphia?

24 MALE SPEAKER 1: We're requesting to know

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25 if Philadelphia is a viable place to park an

1 airplane. That is correct.

2 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. Thank you, sir.

3 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: FAA TAG eastern region

5 command center.

6 MALE SPEAKER 1: This is FAA TAG.

7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We are checking with

8 Philly at this time to find out if they're available

9 (inaudible).

10 MALE SPEAKER 1: This is the command

11 center in Herndon. We understand the airport is

12 physically available and it can accommodate any.

13 However, in light of the situation, do we want that

14 considered as a landing site? That's our question.

15 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

16 BACKGROUND MALE 1: Command center in

17 Herndon.

18 MALE SPEAKER 1: There are some — there

19 are some aircraft that are looking to get to Philly,

20 that's correct.

21 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

22 MALE SPEAKER 3: (Inaudible) center. Did

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23 you come up with a password or passcode for the

24 (inaudible)?

25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (Inaudible).

1 (Elapsed time: 7 seconds.)

2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: FAA TAG eastern region

3 command center.

4 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

5 MALE SPEAKER 3: Eastern region command

6 center. This is (inaudible). I don't know what Rick

7 said about putting that passcode on all the managers'

8 beepers, but that's the best way to get it to us real

9 quick.

10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Stand by, one.

11 MALE SPEAKER 3: Thank you.

12 BACKGROUND MALE 1: Beepers.

13 (Elapsed time: 11 seconds.)

14 BACKGROUND MALE 1: Hijack, yeah.

15 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: FAA TAG (inaudible)

17 eastern region command center. Over.

18 MALE SPEAKER 2: Go ahead, eastern region

19 command.

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20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Could you please

21 confirm who needs to be landing as soon as

22 (inaudible)? Over.

23 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. We're working that

24 one. Stand by.

25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Standing by.

1 MALE SPEAKER 2: Air traffic command, do

2 you have an aircraft on approach?

3 MALE SPEAKER 1: Air traffic command

4 center, Herndon. Stand by.

5 (Elapsed time: 15 seconds.)

6 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, air traffic

7 command, Herndon.

8 MALE SPEAKER 2: Go ahead, sir.

9 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. We're on — we

10 don't have any information at this time as to number

11 of aircraft seeking approaches to Philadelphia.

12 However, the facility manager, acting facility

13 manager is inquiring as to status of Philadelphia.

14 BACKGROUND FEMALE 1: I'll turn back —

15 I'm trying to get (inaudible).

16 (Elapsed time: 2 seconds.)

17 MALE SPEAKER 1: It might be the local.

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18 Might be.

19 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. So you still don't

20 have a count on aircraft approaching?

21 MALE SPEAKER 1: That is correct. We do

22 not have any information at this time as to aircraft

23 requesting to go to Philadelphia. The management

24 here is requesting to know if Philadelphia is viable

25 for a landing site. Over.

1 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. I'm advised there

2 shouldn't be anybody airborne right now. But if

3 there is an aircraft en route, we're saying it's

4 clear.

5 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Understood. Thank

6 you.

7 MALE SPEAKER 4: I mean, so here's the

8 bottom line. The only airplanes that are going to

9 move on the East Coast of my area are going to be

10 military, Coast Guard, search and rescue, or land

11 shore is the exception to it. If (inaudible) is

12 going into Philadelphia, (inaudible) that's the only

13 airplane. Other than that, we're finished.

14 MALE SPEAKER 2: Agreed. There shouldn't

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15 be any other aircraft involved.

16 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

17 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. TAG back to ATC.

18 MALE SPEAKER 1: ATC command center.

19 MALE SPEAKER 2: On the general question,

20 facility is available, but there shouldn't be

21 anything airborne other than those specified.

22 MALE SPEAKER 1: Roger. Understood.

23 Thank you.

24 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. We're clear.

25 BACKGROUND MALE 1: You got a direct field

1 operations (inaudible.)

2 (Elapsed time: 13 seconds.)

3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE 1: I'm not seeing

4 anything.

5 BACKGROUND FEMALE 1: That did not work.

6 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 1: (Inaudible) in on

7 there. It's too hot in here. I told Donna come and

8 get Mark to come up to do something with the air. He

9 said he was doing it. I called Mark's number and

10 there was no answer. But someone's still got to be

11 down there, because there (inaudible).

12 (Elapsed time: 5 seconds.)

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13 MALE SPEAKER 1: (Inaudible) whatever

14 (inaudible). FAA TAG Net air traffic command.

15 MALE SPEAKER 2: Go ahead.

16 MALE SPEAKER 1: Facility working November

17 4 requesting to know if Richmond airport would be

18 okay as far as a destination.

19 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. That's being

20 worked right now. Please stand by.

21 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Thank you.

22 (Elapsed time: 9 seconds.)

23 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. FAA TAG Net.

24 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

25 MALE SPEAKER 2: FAA TAG Net to ATC

1 Command.

2 MALE SPEAKER 1: ATC Command, Herndon. Go

3 ahead.

4 MALE SPEAKER 2: Regarding November 4.

5 MALE SPEAKER 1: (Inaudible.)

6 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Air conditioner —

7 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. Richmond is clear.

8 MALE SPEAKER 1: Roger. Understand.

9 Thank you.

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10 BACKGROUND MALE: Did you all come back?

11 Did he find anything down there?

12 BACKGROUND FEMALE: I can't get a hold of

13 anybody down there and I need someone up here

14 immediately.

15 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

16 BACKGROUND MALE: (Inaudible) 1989 is on

17 the ground in Cleveland (inaudible).

18 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Thanks very much.

19 Bye.

20 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

21 BACKGROUND MALE: I have a female voice on

22 that frequency (inaudible).

23 (Elapsed time: 11 seconds.)

24 BACKGROUND MALE: Female voice.

25 (Elapsed time: 15 seconds.)

1 BACKGROUND MALE: 1989.

2 (Elapsed time: 20 seconds.)

3 MALE SPEAKER 2: TAG Net to Great Lakes

4 Security.

5 MALE SPEAKER 4: Great Lakes Security.

6 MALE SPEAKER 2: Any update on the Delta

7 aircraft?

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8 MALE SPEAKER 4: We're still waiting for

9 word back from the agents on the scene.

10 MALE SPEAKER 2: Do we know if law

11 enforcement's on the ground?

12 MALE SPEAKER 4: Yes to that. They were

13 responding as soon as the plane hit the ground.

14 BACKGROUND FEMALE: It's confirmed that it

15 went down in Johnstown --

16 MALE SPEAKER 2: Please advise as to

17 status when you get it.

18 MALE SPEAKER 4: Roger.

19 (Elapsed time: 12 seconds.)

20 BACKGROUND MALE: Pentagon.

21 (Elapsed time: 19 seconds.)

22 MALE SPEAKER 2: TAG Net back to Great

23 Lakes Security.

24 MALE SPEAKER 4: Great Lakes Security.

25 MALE SPEAKER 2: Did you advise on that

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1 flight service radio frequency or was that ATC?

2 MALE SPEAKER 4: Was ATC reporting on the

3 passenger calling in about being shot down?

4 MALE SPEAKER 2: No, that's true. But

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5 anything further on that?

6 MALE SPEAKER 4: We want the source of

7 that information.

8 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. Was that TRACON?

9 (Elapsed time: 12 seconds.)

10 MALE SPEAKER 4: Indiana's air traffic

11 command. The information relay came from

12 Indianapolis (inaudible).

13 MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay. Thanks.

14 (Elapsed time: 10 seconds.)

15 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, listen. This is

16 the eastern region air traffic. All air traffic

17 (inaudible) 99 — 99 —

18 (Elapsed time: 21 seconds.)

19 MALE SPEAKER 2: FAA TAG to air traffic

20 command.

21 (Elapsed time: 19 seconds.)

22 MALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible) to air

23 traffic command.

24 MALE SPEAKER 1: Air traffic command

25 center, Herndon.

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1 MALE SPEAKER 2: Do you have an update,

2 sir, on that female voice on 122.6?

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3 ( 14:50:28 ) MALE SPEAKER 1: Stand by. We'll attempt

4 to check with the (inaudible) information.

5 MALE SPEAKER 2: Standing by.

6 (Elapsed time: 7 seconds.)

7 MALE SPEAKER 2: Long Beach, Ontario, and

8 LAX?

9 BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah.

10 (Elapsed time: 6 seconds.)

11 MALE SPEAKER 2: Long Beach, Ontario, and

12 LAX evacuated.

13 BACKGROUND MALE: Can I get a couple

14 people to run in (inaudible).

15 (Elapsed time: 7 seconds.)

16 MALE SPEAKER 2: If this is true that, you

17 know, these folks also on the ground, entry into the

18 building is very accessible. (Inaudible). If

19 they're running around (inaudible), I'll walk into

20 that building (inaudible.)

21 BACKGROUND MALE: All the information

22 comes to you.

23 MALE SPEAKER 2: One person at the gate

24 that the (inaudible) to do it.

25 BACKGROUND MALE: (Inaudible)?

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1 MALE SPEAKER 2: No, they're more busy

2 with the traffic situation.

3 BACKGROUND MALE: On this one, use my

4 radio.

5 MALE SPEAKER 2: They're trying to stop

6 the traffic from going up and down Pennsylvania Ave.

7 (Elapsed time: 9 seconds.)

8 MALE SPEAKER 2: Yeah, we need to be

9 concerned about that.

10 (Elapsed time: 6 seconds.)

11 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Confirm this.

12 MALE SPEAKER 2: Is that a confirm?

13 BACKGROUND MALE: Is that capital?

14 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Capital.

15 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

16 BACKGROUND MALE: Hey, Cathy.

17 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

18 GROUND MALE: They just hit the building

19 on the sixth floor.

20 BACKGROUND MALE: What (inaudible) are you

21 monitoring?

22 BACKGROUND MALE: Tactical.

23 BACKGROUND MALE: They're on the lookout

24 for car bombs also, the DOJ.

25 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The - when you say

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1 tactical, is that the regional?

2 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, national.

3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. This —

4 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was at the

5 regional —

6 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right. I'm going

1 to tell them that you're on the regional.

8 (Elapsed time: 13 seconds.)

9 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good morning.

10 (Elapsed time: 8 seconds.)

11 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, this is

12 Somerset.

13 (Elapsed time: 10 seconds.)

14 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Hey, Ms. (Inaudible),

15 how do you spell her name? How do you spell her

16 name?

17 MALE SPEAKER 2: FAA Tactical Net to air

18 traffic command.

19 MALE SPEAKER 1: Air traffic command,

20 Herndon.

21 MALE SPEAKER 2: Stand by.

22 BACKGROUND MALE: Yeah, but I'm not — I

23 got that but I'm not — I just got to get —

24 (Elapsed time: 6 seconds.)

25 MALE SPEAKER 2: Air traffic command, TAG.

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1 MALE SPEAKER I: Air traffic command,

2 Herndon. Go ahead.

3 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. I'm looking for

4 status on United 93, last reported over Johnstown,

5 PA.

6 (TC- MALE SPEAKER 1: We believe that aircraft

7 is the crash that's being reported near the

8 Pennsylvania area, up near Somerset, Pennsylvania.

9 That's the one we believe that is there.

10 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. So no one is

11 tracking that right now?

12 C C, MALE SPEAKER 1: That is correct.

13 MALE SPEAKER 2: I covered you on the

14 location of the crash.

15 r^C MALE SPEAKER 1: We believe that was the

16 aircraft that was in the vicinity of Johnstown,

17 Pennsylvania earlier and we're hearing possibly an

18 area near Somerset, Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh,

19 aircraft possibly down. We believe that might be it.

20 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. I've got that.

21 BACKGROUND MALE: Now we're on the

22 national map. The primary we're now on.

23 (Elapsed time: 8 seconds.)

24 BACKGROUND MALE: I'm now currently on

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25 this national.

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1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Air tactical —

2 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. All parties on

3 the tactical net, please check your microphones. We

4 have open mikes. Check your mikes -- open.

5 MALE SPEAKER 1: FAA TAG Net, air traffic

6 command center, Herndon.

7 MALE SPEAKER 2: Go ahead, sir.

8 MALE SPEAKER 1: Indianapolis center

9 reporting low transmission on 122.6.

10 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. Nothing further on

11 that one?

12 MALE SPEAKER 1: That is correct.

13 MALE SPEAKER 2: Right.

14 MALE SPEAKER 4: TAG Net. Great Lakes

15 Security.

16 MALE SPEAKER 2: Go ahead Great Lakes.

17 MALE SPEAKER 4: Delta flight 1989 on the

18 ground in Cleveland. The agents have approached the

19 aircraft. There's been no breach of the aircraft of

20 this time. Nothing further to report.

21 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. I've got it.

22 Standing by.

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23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: TRACON is unable to

24 dial in on the breach.

25 (Elapsed time: 19 seconds.)

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1 BACKGROUND MALE: (Inaudible)

2 representative? Oh. Is there a confirmation on the

3 two people that (inaudible) number 11? Okay.

4 (Inaudible) flight crew and (inaudible) and whatever

5 else was (inaudible).

6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Central region

7 (inaudible) tactical net.

8 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

9 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the

10 (inaudible).

11 (Elapsed time: 15 seconds.)

12 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right now, United 93,

13 the one that was talked about this morning.

14 (Elapsed time: 6 seconds.)

15 MALE SPEAKER 2: FAA TAG Net to FSMJFK.

16 MALE SPEAKER 5: JFK.

17 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. You're bleeding

18 over on your secondary conversations. Can you

19 squelch that?

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20 MALE SPEAKER 5: There's not a mute on

21 this phone.

22 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay, then you're

23 carrying over the whole net.

24 MALE SPEAKER 5: Okay. Thank you.

25 (Elapsed time: 24 seconds.)

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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: TAG Net. This is New

2 York TRACON.

3 MALE SPEAKER 2: Go ahead, New York

4 TRACON.

5 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible) bridge that

6 you announced?

7 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. I did not announce

8 the bridge. Who are you trying to contact?

9 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 964 bridge and we're

10 unable to dial it.

11 MALE SPEAKER 2: I think that's an air

12 traffic net.

13 (Elapsed time: 35 seconds.)

14 BACKGROUND MALE: This one here —

15 BACKGROUND MALE: That's still

16 unconfirmed. He just gave me another (inaudible).

17 Still unconfirmed.

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18 (Elapsed time: I minute, 38 seconds.)

19 MALE SPEAKER 2: FAA TAG Net to Great

20 Lakes Security.

21 (Elapsed time: 10 seconds.)

22 MALE SPEAKER 4: This is Great Lakes. Go

23 ahead.

24 MALE SPEAKER 2: Looking for an update on

25 Delta 1989.

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1 MALE SPEAKER 4: We don't have anything

2 new to add at this point.

3 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. Thank you.

4 (Elapsed time: 1 minute, 15 seconds.)

5 ( 15:01:03 ) FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hey Carol?

6 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hey Carol?

8 (Elapsed time: 6 seconds.)

9 BACKGROUND MALE: Thank you, Gary.

10 BACKGROUND FEMALE: What's our latest

11 update, guys? The latest update? Flight 189 has

12 landed safely.

13 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

14 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Rochester.

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15 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Did you get that —

16 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Is that Rochester, New

17 York? I thought they were going to Detroit.

18 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

19 BACKGROUND FEMALE: It was flight 189.

20 (Elapsed time: 7 seconds.)

21 MALE SPEAKER 1: FAA TAG Net. Air traffic

22 command center, Herndon.

23 MALE SPEAKER 2: This is the TAG Net. Go

24 ahead.

25 MALE SPEAKER 1: Sir, we're getting a

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1 request from November 4 again to change their

2 destination to DCA, and they're also requesting an

3 escort, fighter escort.

4 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

5 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. Stand by.

6 (Elapsed time: 14 seconds.)

7 MALE SPEAKER 6: Hello?

8 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

9 MALE SPEAKER 6: Hi. This is New York

10 TRACON.

11 (Elapsed time: 11 seconds.)

12 MALE SPEAKER 6: New York TRACON. Can

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13 anybody hear me? (Inaudible), are you here? FAA TAG

14 Net? Do we have Secret Service on this net?

15 BACKGROUND FEMALE: I've been trying for

16 like the last hour and I couldn't get out.

17 MALE SPEAKER 6: DI (inaudible).

18 (Elapsed time: 5 seconds.)

19 MALE SPEAKER 6: Copy. This is New York

20 Center. Can anybody hear me?

21 MALE SPEAKER 2: TAG Net. Go ahead. I

22 can hear you, New York Center.

23 MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. This is New York

24 TRACON. The problem we're having is we can't

25 communicate with our regional office. All the phone

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1 lines are dead from here to there.

2 MALE SPEAKER 2: Check.

3 MALE SPEAKER 6: And we have about one,

4 two, three, four, five, Medivac helicopters off of

5 (inaudible) that wants to go to Manhattan and help

6 out, but we had no way of getting them there, and we

7 need to figure out some sort of security clearance

8 kind of a mechanism so that the Air Force and

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10 trying to get to Manhattan to help.

11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Eastern region air

12 traffic is working on that issue. Thank you.

13 MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. Thanks very much.

14 Who is this?

15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (Inaudible) security.

16 MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. This is

17 (inaudible) TRACON. We can't get a line into the

18 regional office. Could somebody just call the

19 facility? We can receive calls, but we just can't

20 get calls into the regional office, so I need to know

21 about this so we can clear the airplanes or not clear

22 them, okay?

23 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And copy that. Try

25 9963 one more time. We have individuals that have

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1 dropped off and you may get to them. Over.

2 MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. I'll try it again.

3 MALE SPEAKER 7: F. Clark?

4 MALE SPEAKER 6: Yes?

5 MALE SPEAKER 7: Rick Shavinski here at

6 Morristown. I had an air -- a couple of guys,

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8 assistance if they can. You want me to just keep

9 them on the ground here for now?

10 MALE SPEAKER 6: Yeah. Hold everybody on

11 the ground. We need security clearances before we

12 let anybody depart anywhere.

13 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: FAA TAG Net —

14 MALE SPEAKER 7: If we could use if

15 needed.

16 MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay. I'll — call me, ^

17 683-2900.

18 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Break FAA TAG Net. I

19 request to have all non-essential personnel drop off

20 this net please. All non-essential working personnel

21 drop from this net and break contact. FAA TAG Net

22 out.

23 BACKGROUND FEMALE: On this net, off of

24 it, Tactical Net.

25 MALE SPEAKER 4: FAA TAG Net, FAA Great

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1 Lakes Security. We'll offer 5 minute updates on

2 Delta 1989. Nothing new to report at this time.

3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. Thank you.

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5 region air traffic should be dialing into 9964.

6 (Elapsed time: 13 seconds.)

7 MALE SPEAKER 2: TAG Net to FBI SIOC.

8 MALE SPEAKER 8: FBI SIOC's on the line.

9 MALE SPEAKER 2: Are you copying the

10 requests for November 4?

11 MALE SPEAKER 8: No, I did not.

12 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. We have a request

13 for November 4 to land at DCA, AG is aboard.

14 (Elapsed time: 6 seconds.)

15 MALE SPEAKER 8: Stand by, please.

16 BACKGROUND MALE: What's the status of

17 flight 93?. / " !

18 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Flight 93 on "T/l /"


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19 (inaudible) . _. ^^

20 (Elapsed time: 8 seconds.)

21 MALE SPEAKER 4: FAA TAG Net. Update

22 flight 93, United 93. The crash vicinity, Somerset,

23 PA, for air traffic command, Herndon.

24 BACKGROUND MALE: Okay. What about the

25 Pentagon?

23

1 BACKGROUND MALE: That's the Attorney

2 General's office.

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3 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Attorney General's on

4 November 4?

5 BACKGROUND MALE: Right.

6 BACKGROUND MALE: Just tell me what you

7 have.

8 MALE SPEAKER 4: Update, Delta Airlines

9 1989, on the ground, Cleveland. Police on the scene.

10 No breach at this time.

11 (Elapsed time: 23 seconds.)

12 BACKGROUND MALE: Okay. Copy. Okay,

13 again, for you to get the word out (inaudible) out of

14 the country to (inaudible).

15 BACKGROUND MALE: They're trying to keep

16 this open. I don't think we can do it through this

17 line.

18 BACKGROUND FEMALE: Oh, we have to find

19 someplace else?

20 BACKGROUND MALE: We need to get a flight

21 out of here.

22 (Elapsed time: 11 seconds.)

23 BACKGROUND MALE: Okay. Does anyone out

24 there have any questions for me?

25 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

24

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1 MALE SPEAKER 1: Air traffic command

2 Herndon to the FBI.

3 BACKGROUND MALE: 77, the aircraft

4 (inaudible).

5 BACKGROUND MALE: Yes.

6 BACKGROUND MALE: That's reported to have

7 crashed in Ashland, Kentucky, possibly at the border

8 of (inaudible).

9 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

10 BACKGROUND MALE: That's United Airlines

11 70-what?

12 BACKGROUND MALE: 77.

13 BACKGROUND FEMALE: American, American.

14 BACKGROUND MALE: American 77. Dulles.

15 BACKGROUND MALE: Okay, so for —

16 MALE SPEAKER 4: Hey, TAG Net. FAA Great

17 Lakes Security.

18 (Elapsed time: 7 seconds.)

19 BACKGROUND FEMALE: I can't pull out.

20 (Elapsed time: 15 seconds.)

21 MALE SPEAKER 1: FAA TAG Net. FAA air

22 traffic command, Herndon.

23 MALE SPEAKER 2: Go ahead, Herndon.

24 MALE SPEAKER 1: We had an inquiry from an

25 individual reporting to be an FBI agent, a special

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1 agent (inaudible) inquiring about American 77.

2 Obviously we do not want to provide any information

3 until the, you know, identity of the individual can

4 be confirmed or — would you like to advise the FBI?

5 We have a number where this agent will probably call

6 from.

7 MALE SPEAKER 2: FBI SIOC?

8 MALE SPEAKER 1: FBI SIOC.

9 MALE SPEAKER 2: Copy that last.

10 MALE SPEAKER 1: No. We're still trying

11 to get through to the DOJ TAG Net. Okay. FAA, LAX,

12 or FBI, Los Angeles.

13 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Russian Pacific Asian,

14 go ahead.

15 MALE SPEAKER 2: Are you in contact with

16 FBI?

17 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can be.

18 MALE SPEAKER 2: We have a request from an

19 agent or an individual identifying himself as Agent

20 | |. Can you authenticate and have that handled

21 locally?

22 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A g e n t | \3 MALE SPEAKER.-2T'" Correc

24 ...UNIDENTIFIED MALE.;•••-] fr From FBI LA?

25.... What is .the --his request is what?

9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy

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1 MALE SPEAKER 1: This is the air traffic

2 command center in Herndon. This individual called

3 the — one of the positions here at the command

4 center, gave us a telephone number he could be

5 reached at. He was asking for information concerning

6 American Airlines 77 flight. Have we contacted that?

7 (Elapsed time: 5 seconds.)

8 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay. FAA Western

9 Pacific. You copy?

10 MALE SPEAKER 9: Yes.

11 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're going to handle

12 out there?

13 MALE SPEAKER 9: Yeah. Do you have that

14 return number he gave you so that we can use it?

15 MALE SPEAKER 1: I do. Are you ready to

16 write?

17 MALE SPEAKER 9: Go.

18 MALE SPEAKER 1: Area code I

19 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: FBI SJOC.

20 MALE SPEAKER 1: Correction. | | It's

21 I I...extension 3404.

22 MALE SPEAKER 9: Copy. We'll get back and

23 let you know. .

24 UNIDENTIFIED MALEs- F8J SIOC. We have

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25 confirmed November 4 is the AG' s flight and it's okay

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1 to land.

2 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. You confirm that

3 November 4 is okay for DCA? This is air traffic

4 command, Herndon asking.

5 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's correct.

6 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Thank you very

7 much.

8 MALE SPEAKER 2: Air traffic command,

9 Herndon. Stand by on that last request. I've got to

10 get back to you on that one.

11 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

12 MALE SPEAKER 1: Someone just got on this

13 net and said that was approved.

14 MALE SPEAKER 2: That was FBI SIOC.

15 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Thank you. We

16 will wait for you TAG Net.

17 (Elapsed time: 3 seconds.)

18 MALE SPEAKER 2: Stand by on that one.

19 MALE SPEAKER 1: FAA air traffic command,

20 Herndon.

21 (Elapsed time: 7 seconds.)

22 MALE SPEAKER 4: FAA TAG Net, FAA Great

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24 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. FAA TAG Net, back

25 to ATC.

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1 MALE SPEAKER 1: ATC command center,

2 Herndon. Go ahead.

3 MALE SPEAKER 2: That's affirmative on

4 November 4.

5 MALE SPEAKER 1: Roger. Roger.

6 Understood at DCA. We'll advise the facilities.

7 Thank you.

8 (Elapsed time: 18 seconds.)

9 ( 15:11:13 ) MALE SPEAKER 4: FAA TAG Net, FAA Great

10 Lakes Security.

11 MALE SPEAKER 2: Go ahead.

12 MALE SPEAKER 4: We have an airport

13 commissioner recording that initial contact with and

14 confirmation with the air traffic control tower in

15 Cleveland. Reported that Delta 1989 initial contact

16 recorded a hijack condition, and that information

17 says there's still no breach of the aircraft by law

18 enforcement on the ground at Cleveland.

19 (Elapsed time: 4 seconds.)

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20 MALE SPEAKER 4: We have a report of

21 hijack. 1989 on the ground. Nothing further.

22 MALE SPEAKER 2: Roger.

23 MALE SPEAKER 1: FAA TAG Net, FAA air

24 traffic command center, Herndon.

25 MALE SPEAKER 2: Go ahead.

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1 C (MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. The facility has

2 advised the aircraft, November 4, he is requesting a

3 military escort. We are advising the air traffic

4 services cell, the military cell here. Over.

5 MALE SPEAKER 2: I copy.

6 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Do you have anyone

7 else so that you may be able to follow up on that?

8 We are going to advise DCA that this is an approved

9 flight.

10 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. I don't have a

11 follow-up on the fighter request.

12 MALE SPEAKER 1: Roger that.

13 (Elapsed time: 12 seconds.)

14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: TAG eastern region

15 command center.

16 (Elapsed time: 48 seconds.)

17 BACKGROUND MALE: Bonnie, what do you

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18 need?

19 (Elapsed time: 9 seconds.)

20 BACKGROUND MALE: It's not there.

21 (Elapsed time: 11 seconds.)

22 (End of tape.)

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