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23 Transcribed by Janet S. Dickens
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1 P R O C E E D I N G S
00:00:00 2 ELECTRONIC VOICE: Twelve hours, 30 minutes,
3 20 seconds. (Beep.) Twelve hours, 30 minutes, 25
4 seconds. (Beep.) Twelve hours, 30 minutes, 30
5 seconds. (Beep.)
00:10:00 6 (Dialing.)
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Swordfish aircraft calling
8 Huntress, say again call sign.
9 MALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, this is
10 Swordfish 21.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Swordfish 21, this is
12 Huntress. Go ahead.
13 MALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, Sw9rdfish 21,
14 roger. Request (inaudible) mode 3, squawking 4651.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. 4651. Irm sorry,
16 Mo. Here.
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18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Swordfish 21, this is
19 Huntress.
20 MALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, Swordfish 21, go
21 ahead.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir. (inaudible)
23 code to (inaudible) 1490, copy.
24 MALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, this is
25 Swordfish 21, roger copy. All those codes are
0003
1 (inaudible), and thanks for the help there. 21 out.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You have a good flight,
3 sir. Huntress out.
4 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Can you write down
6 Swordfish 21 on the board for me?
7 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Yes.
8 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
9 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) New
10 York's (inaudible).
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11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's not me; that's
12 Shelly.
13 (Dial tone, dialing.)
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Swordfish 21, there's his
15 codes. Just write 'em down.
16 (Busy signal.)
17 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Right here?
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, his codes are right up
19 there.
20 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Oh, Okay.
21 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Son of a Bitch.
23 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Their line's busy right
25 now. I'm still trying.
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1 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
2 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
00:20:00 3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible),
4 can I help you?
5 MALE SPEAKER 2 Yes, Sergeant pivits. First
6 Air Force Public Affairs How are you doing this
7 morning?
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Just fine, how are you?
9 MALE SPEAKER 2: I know you guys are pretty
10 busy up there. I've got two quick questions for you.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
12 MALE SPEAKER 2: okay, we just got a phone
13 call from -- from Operations saying that there's a
14 possible hijack out of Boston.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right.
16 MALE SPEAKER 2: Is -- do you know if this
17 guy's -- is he squawking hijack? Is he squawking
18 (inaudible)?
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: um, no, he's not squawking
20 anything right now.
21 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's a primary target
23 only, is what Boston went ahead and tpld us. All we've
24 got is the flight level altitude on him.
25 MALE SPEAKER 2: Okay.
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We're -- I guess the
2 pilot's having a -- having a hard time in the cockpit,
3 and the code's haven't been squawking.
4 MALE SPEAKER 2: okay. So he's squawking no
5 codes, whatsoever.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right.
7 MALE SPEAKER 2: And he's going 19 --
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'm sorry?
9 MALE SPEAKER 2: what hit -- wait a minute, a
10 plane just hit -- a plane hit the world Trade Center.
11 I just saw that on the news. I hope that's not the
12 same plane.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A plane just hit the world
14 Trade Center?
15 MALE SPEAKER 2: Yeah.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 it's on the news?
17 MALE SPEAKER 2: And it may be a 737.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 A 737?
19 MALE SPEAKER 2: what type of aircraft is the
20 aircraft that --
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 what type aircraft is the
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22 aircraft? it's a 767. First Air Force, stand by,
23 one. I'm going to patch you tfl_£inaudible).
24 Can you please call | 1?
25 MALE SPEAKER 2: | f. I
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right.
2 MALE SPEAKER 2: All right, thank you, ma'am.
3 Bye.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh, I'm sorry. Sir?
5 MALE SPEAKER 2: Yes? j
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I |.
7 MALE SPEAKER 2: d_h
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Y6S, Sir.
9 MALE SPEAKER 2: All right, thanks.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you. Bye.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: On the scope, in New York
12 Center and get --
13 (Dial tone.)
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
15 (Dial tone.)
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: He doesn't have an
17 altitude (inaudible).
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, we didn't. Boston's
19 still busy.
20 (Dial tone, dialing.)
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Fucking hell.
22 (Ringing.)
23 MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, CMU, Boston.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston, Huntress.
25 Reference on American 11.
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1 MALE SPEAKER 3: Y6S.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you have a tail number
3 on him, sir?
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: Excuse me?
5 FEMALE SPEAKER Do you have a tail number
6 on him, sir?
7 MALE SPEAKER 3: A tail number?
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, Sir.
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: Do we — by any chance, on
10 American Airlines, do we have a tail number, a November
11 number on it? Can we get that, call American, see if
12 they know what it is?
13 we'll get that information for you.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: copy that. Thank you,
15 si r.
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: And the last hit we had, he
17 was about eight miles south speed miles east of JFK,
18 and he was tracking —
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: DO you have --
20 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- southwest bound.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you have any -- are you
22 still seeing him on your scope —
23 MALE SPEAKER 3: NO.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: — at all?
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: No, we've lost everything.
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1 You'd have to probably talk to New York.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right.
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: We don't have anything on
4 him anymore.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you have a direct
6 number for New York Military that I can call, please,
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8 MALE SPEAKER 3: I — hold on one second.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.\m calling Boston for |Nfiw York Military's
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11 line number. They were going to !ca\ll us -- they're
12 calling for a tail number, but (ilnaudible) have to call
13 American Airlines. i \E SPEAKER 3: I have a\direct number. I
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15 don't have their DSN number.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, what's the direct
17 number, sir?
18 MALE SPEAKER 3:
19 FEMALE SPEAKER
20 MALE SPEAKER 3:
21 FEMALE SPEAKER
22 MALE SPEAKER 3:
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: --][ \y that.
24 Thank you, sir. I appreciate itJt
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. And what do -- what
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1 number do you want me to call in order to give you the
2 intel on that tail number? j
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: DSN I I.
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, hold on. if you want
5 to stay on the line, he's on the line with American
6 right now, if you want to hold on a second.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, I'll hold on.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Mo, come here. There's
10 the number. He's giving me the tail number for
11 American. They're on the line right now. But there's
12 the number for New York, if you want to call them, use
13 the black phone. That's the one that works.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: That's the one -- that's
15 the --
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The black phone's the one
17 that works.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: Hello?
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir.
20 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER (Inaudible) -- hit
21 the world Trade center.
22 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER Could you - - n o
23 way. Did he? Seriously?
24 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER It's on CNN
25 (inaudible) --
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The world Trade Center?
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, he crashed into the
3 world Trade center.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That is the aircraft that
5 crashed into the world Trade Center?
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup. Disregard the --
7 disregard the tail number.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Disregard the tail number.
9 He did crash into the world Trade Center.
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: That's what we believe, yes.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy that. Thank you,
12 si r.
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: It's Boston.
15 MALE SPEAKER '. urn, do you want me to stay
16 on the line?
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah. Stand by, one, sir.
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18 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Does anybody want to talk
20 -- here, plug. He's on the line with me.
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah?
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Go ahead.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Sir, Sergeant Dooley here.
24 We need to have -- are you giving confirmation that --
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: No.
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- American 11 was --
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: No.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- the one --
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: No, we're not going to
5 confirm that at this time, We just know an aircraft
6 has crashed in, and --
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Are you -- are -- can you
8 say -- is anyone up there tracking primary on this
9 guy's (inaudible)?
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: No. We had -- the last that
11 we had was about 15 miles east of JFK, or eight miles
12 east of JFK was our last primary hit. He did slow down
13 in speed, the primary that we had, it slowed down below
14 -- down to 300 knots.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay.
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: But that was the last thing
17 we had on him.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: And --
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: And then you lost him.
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, and then we lost him.
22 we did have some confirmation from New York Center he
23 was at 29, but -- hold on a second.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay.
25 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: The tail number's
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1 334-alpha (inaudible).
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. The tail number is 3
3 -- 334 --
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 334 --
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- alpha-alpha.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- alpha-alpha. Tail
7 number?
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: November.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: November 334-alpha-alpha.
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: Alpha. That's the tail
11 number.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. All right. Do you
13 -- you wouldn't happen to have souls onboard, would
14 you?
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: I might have that. Stand
16 by.
17 Do we have souls onboard? Do we have souls
18 onboard?
19 I don't -- I don't know if we have that
20 information.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay. Okay, if possible,
22 if you guys do find that, it's very important that we
23 have that, souls onboard, urn --
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- could you call us back?
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1 MALE SPEAKER 3: Souls 9nboard, we'll try to
2 get that from American Airlines, if we can.
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4 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, and --
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: All right, we'd --
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: --what's the number?
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need to get the last four.
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9 MALE SPEAKER 3: |
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FEMALE SPEAKER ?: Hh \e
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10 your name, again?
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 This is Sergeant Dooley.
12 MALE SPEAKER 3: Sergeant Dooley. Okay.
13 Thank you,
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Okay, sir. Thank you.
00:27:30 15 MALE SPEAKER 3: Bye.
00:31:00 16 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Huntress ID, sergeant
17 Dooley, may I help you?
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, Sergeant Dooley, Coll in
19 Scoggins again, from Boston Center.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yes, sir.
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: Talked to American Airlines.
22 The dispatch I was talking to was unable to give me
23 that at this time, because they've been locked out of
24 the computer —
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay.
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1 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- due to some reason.
2 There is a conference call. But I did give them your ./'
3 telephone number and your name, and told them to pass
4 the information on souls onboard when he gets the
5 opportunity.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: I appreciate your help,
7 si r.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay?
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Thank you.
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: All right.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Bye.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 : Huntress ID,
sergeant
13 Dooley, may I help you?
14 MALE SPEAKER 2: Yeah, it's First Air Force,
15 Sergeant Divits. We just confirmed, from down here,
16 that that was one and the same, the hijack and the
17 plane hitting the building.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: First Air Force
19 confirmation, one and the same, American Airlines in --
20 into the World Trade center, copy? is that what you
21 said? sir?
22 MALE SPEAKER 2: That's copy, yes. it came
23 from, uh --
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: came from whom?
25 MALE SPEAKER 2: From First Air Force. Let
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1 me get the -- let me get the person's name. Hold on.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Thank you.
3 MALE SPEAKER 2: So we can get the official
4 -- hold on. Okay. Don Deskins.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: okay, thank you.
6 (inaudible.)
7 MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible.)
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible.)
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FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Huntress ID, Sergeant
Dooley, may I help you?
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, Coll in Scoggins, ac
12 Boston Center. We just had a report of a second
13 aircraft hitting the Trade Center.
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14 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: A second aircraft hitting
15 the Trade Center.
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: That is correct. And I
17 don't know what you all need to do, but if I were you,
18 I'd start putting people on standby, as far as those --
19 the fighters at Otis. That's my recommendation, when
20 he said the second aircraft hit, we're going to ground
21 all our aircraft.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Second aircraft hit.
23 They're grounding all aircraft at this time, Boston
24 Center. They want you guys to put your fighters on /U
25 standby, or whatever.
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1 Okay, sir, can you confirm tail number and
2 type aircraft of that second aircraft?
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: Second aircraft? Can't
4 confirm anything yet. I don't know where it came from.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: United Airlines, copy? Is
6 that what you said?
7 MALE SPEAKER 3 I didn't say anything yet.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER Okay.
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: Are you (inaudible) somebody
10 else?
11 FEMALE SPEAKER : Okay, thank you.
12 MALE SPEAKER 3 Okay. And --
13 FEMALE SPEAKER : I -- could you keep us
14 updated, sir?
15 MALE SPEAKER 3 Yes, I will.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER : Thank you.
00:45:00 17 MALE SPEAKER 4 Huntress ID, Sergeant
18 Jenning, unsecure line.
19 MALE SPEAKER Yeah, it' ^Sergeant Zubon,
20 how1re you doing?
21 MALE SPEAKER 4: Not too bad, Joe.
22 MALE SPEAKER 5: YOU guys watching the news?
23 MALE SPEAKER 4: Yeah, they've got it on in
24 the battlecab right now.
25 MALE SPEAKER 5: Oh, do they?
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1 MALE SPEAKER 4: Yeah.
2 MALE SPEAKER 5: Yeah, I wasn't sure. I've
3 been watching it for about ten minutes, and I said, "I
4 wonder if they're -- did they suspend the exercise?"
5 MALE SPEAKER 4: Not at this time, no.
6 MALE SPEAKER 5: Not yet?
7 MALE SPEAKER 4: But I think they're going
8 to. I don't know. (Laughing.)
9 MALE SPEAKER 5: Yeah, I would imagine.
10 MALE SPEAKER 4: Things look pretty horrific
11 out there, so --
12 MALE SPEAKER 5: Alrighty, man.
13 MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay?
14 MALE SPEAKER uh, Sergeant Dooley there?
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15 MALE SPEAKER Yeah, she's kind of tied up
4:
16 right now. Can she call you back, or --
17 MALE SPEAKER 5: Yeah, just -- well,
18 actually, I'll -- I'll call her back.
19 MALE SPEAKER 4: Yeah, why don't you give her
20 about --
21 MALE SPEAKER 5: (inaudible) --
22 MALE SPEAKER 4: -- maybe a half hour.
23 MALE SPEAKER 5: -- the other day.
24 MALE SPEAKER 4: Oh, okay.
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25 MALE SPEAKER 5: Alrighty.
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1 MALE SPEAKER 4: Yeah, give her about a half
2 hour, Joe.
3 MALE SPEAKER 5: All
4 MALE SPEAKER 4: Okay, then.
5 MALE SPEAKER 5: Alrighty.
6 MALE SPEAKER 4: Thanks. Bye-bye.
00:50:00 7 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Any radio
8 (inaudible)? ^
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible),
10 can I help you?
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military, Bost9n
12 Center. I just got a report that American 11 is still
13 in the air, and it's on its way towards -- heading
14 toward Washington.
15 rfj^eS^T*- FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, American 11 is still
16 in the ai r?
17 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.
18 I FEMALE SPEAKER 1: On its way towards
19 Washington?
20 MALE SPEAKER 3: That was another -- it was
21 evidently another aircraft that hit the tower, That's
22 the latest report we have.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: I'm going to try to confirm
25 an ID for you, but I would assume he's somewhere over
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1 either New Jersey or somewhere further south.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. So American 11
3 isn't the hijack at all, then, right?
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: No, he is a hijack.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He -- American 11 is a
6 hijack.
7 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And he's going into --
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: There could be a third --
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- Washington?
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- this could be a third
12 aircraft.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: it could be a third
14 aircraft, going on to Washington? Do you have a mode 3
sir?
16 E SPEAKER 3: No mode 3. we're trying to
17 get it. I'll^(inaudible) if I can. This is a report
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in from Washington center. You might want to get
someone on another phone talking to Washington Center,
see if they have him tracked up --
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy that.
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- and then get maybe D.C.
23 Guard or somebody up there on that, on the aircraft.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Do you have a lat-
25 long right now on it?
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1 MALE SPEAKER 3: I will try to get one. ;—-~'
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, copy. Thanks.
3 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
4 MALE SPEAKER 6: Good morning, Air Station
5 Cape cod, Lieutenant (inaudible) speaking, how may I
6 help you?
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh, I'm sorry, sir, I got
8 the wrong number.
9 MALE SPEAKER 6: Okay.
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10 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
11 MALE SPEAKER 7: Washington.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Washington, Huntress,
13 reference American 11, possible hijack. New York just
14 called us. Do you have a mode 3 on him by any chance/
15 MALE SPEAKER 7: Hold on a second. That's
16 the first I heard of that. AAL-11, let's see what
17 we've got. Nothing's stored on American 11. Let's see
18 if maybe it's Oil. Nope, don't have anything on him.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, because apparently
20 two aircraft crashed into the world Trade center, we
21 thought one of them was American 11. _New York called
22 us back saving it was on its way to Washington, s t i l l
23 being a hi lack.
24 MALT SPEAKER 7: I -- well, I've only been
25 here about ten minutes --
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
2 MALE SPEAKER 7: -- so I'm not real sure
3 about what's going on with that, but we don't have
4 anything on a --
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
6 MALE SPEAKER 7: (Inaudible), was American 11
7 one of them?
8 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: We think SO. —
9 MALE SPEAKER 7: we think so, but we don't
10 know.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Can you guys give
12 us a call when you (inaudible) --
13 MALE SPEAKER 7: Yup. Soon as we get it all
14 sorted out, we'll talk to you.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy, thanks.
16 MALE SPEAKER 7: Okay, bye-bye.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye.
18 (Telephone ringing in.)
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible),
20 can I help you?
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, Collins Scoggins,
22 Military, Boston.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi.
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, you didn't get my lat-
25 long point, did you?
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, I didn't get your lat-
2 long point.
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay, it was -- disregard
4 those. I didn't want you to -- it was a VFR target, _
5 but we do have -- we did hear from Washington that
6 there is an aircraft, they believe it's American 11.
7 and he is southwest- We" Just don't have a point. "You
8 mignt want to taiK to someone in Washington about it,
9 see if they can confirm it.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I -- yeah, I called
11 Washington, and they're -- they can't confirm anything.
12 They -- they're still trying -- I guess they've changed
13 -- they're sorting -- they're sorting crap out.
14 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah. Okay. You might --
15 yeah, I don't know if they might want to alert some
16 aircraft down there, though, too.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: Just in case.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We have Langley on battle
20 stations right now.
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21 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. All right. And, you
22 know, keep me advised of anything else. If I hear
23 anything more on American 11, I will let you know.
24 we did hear something about an ELT,
25 simultaneous EOT, so -- which means he might have
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1 crashed, too.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A simultaneous EOT?
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: ELT, ELT.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: ELT.
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: simultaneous ELT, when
6 someone said they heard contact from them. So -- hold
7 on one second.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, copy.
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: Danny, you know anything
10 else about American 11? Danny? Danny, you know
11 anything else about American 11? You know anything
12 else about American 11? Terry, what's the latest you
13 heard on American 11? The latest on American 11, what
14 did you hear?
15 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: There may be three
16 airplanes. They're missing -- there are two confirmed,
17 they're missing a third.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: They're missing a third.
19 All right, definitely three aircraft missing.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: There are three aircraft
21 missing.
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: We just don't -- we just
23 don't know if -- we just don't know if it's an American
24 -- we don't know who is the third one, though.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, what's a --
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1 what does "simultaneous ELT" mean, sir?
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: what was the ELT thing you
3 heard about, an ELT, simultaneous --
4 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: I heard it on
5 (inaudible).
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: DLT. Now, is that somewhere
7 other than the Tower? Oh, at the Tower. Disregard.
8 That's at the Towers.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: But there is a third
11 aircraft missing.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A third aircraft missing.
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: Do you -- do you know the
14 call sign of the third aircraft?
15 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: NO.
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: No. We don't have the call
17 sign on the third aircraft yet.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, copy that.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay?
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I appreciate --
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: I'll keep --
22 PHONE MALE SPEAKER 1: -- it, sir.
23 MALE SPEAKER 3: I'll keep you apprised.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy.
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: All right, bye.
0025
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks.
2 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
3 MALE SPEAKER 8: Washington.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Washington, Huntress.
5 Question, do you guys have any kind of lat-long on the
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6 American 11, heading towards y'all?
7 MALE SPEAKER 8: Okay, hold on a second.
8 MALE SPEAKER 8: Hello?
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi, this is Huntress ID.
10 MALE SPEAKER 9: Huntress? Yeah, go ahead.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir. We have
12 fighters on battle stations and airborne also. We're
13 trying to figure out the lat-long for the American 11.
14 Boston gave us the heads-up and said that he was
15 heading towards Washington.
16 MALE SPEAKER 9: Now, where are you getting
17 this information from on American 11?
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston Military.
19 MALE SPEAKER 9: Who?
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston Military.
21 MALE SPEAKER 9: Boston?
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes.
23 MALE SPEAKER 9: Military Desk.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And they said that they
25 were getting it from -- they were getting updates
0026
1 through Washington.
2 MALE SPEAKER 9: Not Washington center, I'm
3 sure, because American 11 is the airplane that we're
4 under the premise that has already crashed into the
5 Trade Center.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right. They said that
7 they think that American Airlines wasn't the one.
8 They're missing three aircraft.
9 MALE SPEAKER 9: All right. So right now
10 you're scrambling aircraft --
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's (inaudible) we
12 already have aircraft airborne, because of the first
13 one.
14 MALE SPEAKER 9: And do you have a -- a
15 presumed target on this American 11 or anything?
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, we don't. That's why
17 they said to go ahead and call you. They said they had
18 to call Washington to figure out -- because they don't
19 have that for them, that they were getting updates
20 through you guys. I don't know who from, if -- if you
21 want to go ahead and call Boston Military --
22 MALE SPEAKER 9: All right, well, I'll have
23 my military guy talk with Boston Military. And you
24 have aircraft in the air; they just need to know if we
25 need to send them somewhere, is that correct?
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I guess. The guy said
2 that American 11 -- he said that that was American 11,
3 99"! "9 towards Washington that was still possible
4 hijack.
5 MALE SPEAKER 9: Boston Center told you this.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, Sir.
7 MALE SPEAKER 9: Just a minute.
00:58:00 8 Call the Boston Military guy and see if --
01:05:00 9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible),
10 can I help you?
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: Latest report. Aircraft VFR
12 six miles southeast of the white House. '
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: six miles southeast of the
14 white House?
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup. East -- he's moving
16 away?
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17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Southeast of the White
18 House.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: Aircraft is moving away.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Moving away from the white
21 House.
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. But what -- he was
24 a DVFR?
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: We believe it just -- we
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1 just know it's VFR aircraft, we're not sure who it is.
2 if you want to hold on a second --
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, copy.
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- (inaudible) have people
5 down there looking.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, copy.
7 MALE SPEAKER 3: where was that position?
8 Six, southwest. Six, southwest of the White House,
9 deviating away.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Deviating away. You don't
11 have a type aircraft, and you don't know who he is.
12 MALE SPEAKER 3: Nothing. Nothing
13 (inaudible) —
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Just a DVFR.
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- and so I have no clue.
16 Hopefully somebody in Washington would have a -- better
17 information for you.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: Is this a good number to
20 keep calling?
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, this is a great
22 number to keep calling.
23 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay, all right.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Washington -- okay, so
25 it's six miles -- you guys have him on primary target
0029
1 only?
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: we just had a tel-com. we
3 don't have any target at all up here, we're just on a
4 tel-com. we gust heard that and wanted to make sure
5 you got that information.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Can you do me a
7 favor and go ahead and fill Bo- -- I mean, Washington
8 on this?
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: I'll try to give them a
10 call. I don't have a number for them.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, I'll give you the
12 number, but -- Washington's number is 9- --
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: what is it?
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, they're number, DSN,
15 is 937-14
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- -20.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: what was New York's?
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: New York's number that
20 we've got for them is 1-631- --
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: oh, so you don't have a DSN
22 for them.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, I don't have a DSN for
24 New York, because we have shotline.
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. I have that already.
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
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2 MALE SPEAKER 3: I do have a DSN; I just --
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you have an OPS sheet
4 on the DVFR, sir, that was six miles southeast --
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: I have no information on it
6 at all. You would be better talking with Washington.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) or a deviating
8 -- deviating (inaudible).
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'm sorry, sir. It's a
10 deviating aircraft or it's a DVFR?
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. That's what you have?
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: NO, no, no, sir. On the
13 -- the one that was six miles southeast of the white
14 House --
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible) southwest.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Southwest?
17 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, southwest.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, southwest of it, the
19 white House, was he a DVFR -- or, you don't have any
20 codes on him, but was he an actual deviating aircraft?
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: Well, we believe he -- I
22 guess they believe that now he might -- he has been a
23 deviating aircraft.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You believe that he's a
25 deviating aircraft.
0031
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, copy.
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: You'll get more out of
4 Washington (inaudible).
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, copy.
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay?
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: I was just passing the
9 information.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks, sir.
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup.
14 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
15 MALE SPEAKER 7: Washington.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Washington, Huntress.
17 Boston just called us. They said that they had
18 information about some aircraft that was six miles
19 southwest of the white House but appear to be
20 deviating. (Inaudible) --
21 MALE SPEAKER 7: Boston does?
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bost9n called and said
23 that I'd have to get the information from you on it.
24 They don't have the call sign for the aircraft, they
25 don't have any codes for the aircraft. They just said
0032
1 that there was one that was six miles southwest of the
2 White House.
3 MALE SPEAKER 7: Okay. Well, Boston's
4 airspace doesn't even come close to that. I don't know
5 how they got that information, but we don't -- hey --
6 okay, we -- we don't know anything about that.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. You don't know
8 anything about --
9 MALE SPEAKER 7: No, we do not.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- that one.
11 MALE SPEAKER 7: And it's probably just a
12 rumor, but you might want to call National or Andrews
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13 or somebody like that and find out. But we don't know
14 anything about that.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy, thanks.
16 MALE SPEAKER 7: Okay, bye.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- Richman, unsecure line,
19 how may I help you?
20 MALE SPEAKER 3: Collins Scoggins, Boston
21 Center Military.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, sir.
23 MALE SPEAKER 3: Third aircraft, Delta 1989.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) Delta 1989?
0033
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: okay. Type aircraft?
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: Type aircraft?
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, sir.
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: Code -- can I give you the
5 code?
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, give me the code.
7 MALE SPEAKER 3: 1304, presently due south of
8 Cleveland.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. Presently due south
10 of Cleveland.
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: Heading westbound,
12 destination Las Vegas.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Heading westbound,
14 destination Las Vegas.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And is this one a hijack,
16 sir?
17 MALE SPEAKER 3: We believe it is.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You believe it is a
19 hijack.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Are they going to squawk
21 hijack?
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: I don't knpw, so -- I don't
23 know. It's just squawking 1304 now, if you want to try
24 to track him up.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, I'll --
0034
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And the type aircraft is
2 what, si r?
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: Do you know the type on that
4 Delta? Delta 1989? I think he's on there. 767.
01:10:00 5 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: 767. And --
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: And altitude?
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, please.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: 350.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: 350, okay, copy that.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And where -- where did he
11 take off out of, sir?
12 MALE SPEAKER 3: Took off out of Boston.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston? okay.
14 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, we're going to try to
15 get you a tail number on that, if you want to get
16 someone up there.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, copy that.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Copy.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you, by any chance,
20 know souls onboard?
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: No, we don't have that
22 information.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You don't have any of
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24 that?
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: You'd have to get that from
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1 United -- or get that from Delta.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: There he is.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: copy that. Thank you,
4 sir.
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 3 : DO you want me to
7 (inaudible) --
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 : (Inaudible.) Bye.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 3 : I'm going to make --
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: we're going to try to get
11 you a tail number, okay?
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 Okay, thanks.
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. Bye.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 Bye.
15 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: okay, we've got
16 a Delta --
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible),
18 can I help you?
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: Sc9ggins, Military, we just
20 had a report the aircraft's hit the Pentagon. I can't
21 confirm that.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Aircraft hit the Pentagon?
23 MALE SPEAKER 3: That's what we believe. You
24 might want to check your phone numbers there, or
25 whatever.
0036
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Now, what type
2 aircraft hit the Pentagon, sir?
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: we have no idea.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You have no idea?
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: No idea, it's just a report
6
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: --we just heard.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you, sir.
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. Bye.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye.
12 (Dial tone, dialing.)
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Attention (inaudible)
14 crew, this is ID, track bravo-089 -- classified special
15 15, time 1342. Repeat, bravo-089, classified special
16 15.
17 (Dial tone, dialing.)
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Huntress ID, Staff
19 Sergeant Richman (inaudible), how may I help you?
20 MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, sir.
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: we believe that aircraft is
23 a - - i s a - - i s a hijacked.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, we got it. The
25 Delta Airlines 89?
0037
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: okay, we've already made
3 it a special, which is what we do, and declared it as
4
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: we have a tail number for
6 you, if you want to hold.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, go ahead. Okay, go
8 ahead, sir. I got it.
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9 MALE SPEAKER 3: Stand by. DO you have the
10 tail number?
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: No, sir, we --
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, we need it --
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- need it. Go ahead.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Go ahead.
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: I'm standing by.
16 (inaudible) -- I think it's November 189DL.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: November 189DL. Okay, I
18 have another question for you, sir.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You just went ahead and
21 said there was an aircraft that hit the Pentagon?
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: That's what we believe.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's what you believe?
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: Did you confirm it? Yes,
25 that's what we heard.
0038
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, we're going to have
2 to -- we'll call and we'll confirm. We'll see what we
3
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: Could you please confirm
5 that with us?
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, copy. Yeah, we
7 will pass that --
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: I don't know if that's on
9 CNN, or whatever, but it could have been the aircraft
10 that was near the white House there (inaudible).
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Near the white House
12 earlier. Okay, Washington has no clue, we were
13 calling --
14 MALE SPEAKER 3: Washington Center?
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- Washington Center, yes.
16 And they don't know where you --
17 MALE SPEAKER 3: I'll give them a call.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- they don't --
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: All right.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- know where you guys are
21 getting your information, so --
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. Bye.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks.
0039
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Who made (inaudible) --
2 who made second (inaudible) unfriendly? I don't know.
3 Fuck.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Just go ahead and make it
5 a mess, it's okay. Make is a mess.
6 Yeah, right there.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) Delta Airlines
8 (inaudible).
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, Mo, the aircraft
10 that he said was by the white House is now near the
11 Pentagon. I don't know where the hell they're getting
12 their info. I said Washington doesn't haye a clue,
13 when I called Washington about it, they didn't know
14 what the hell was going on.
15 (Telephone n ngi ng in.)
16 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Answer.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
18 Huntress ID, (inaudible), can I help you?
19 MALE SPEAKER 10: Yeah, hey, Stace, it's
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20 Grover. Listen, whenever they talk to FAA --
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right.
22 MALE SPEAKER 10: -- they have to get a
23 heading and speed for last positions.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
25 MALE SPEAKER 10: Okay?
0040
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Heading and speed for last
2 positions.
3 MALE SPEAKER 10: Remember to tell them that.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We've -- we've been
5 telling them that, but Bost9n's the one that's been
6 passing information, (inaudible) doesn't have flight
7 plans on them, and Washington has no clue.
8 MALE SPEAKER 10: well, I know, but i'nu
[nflv
9 .listening to them talk to indy.and fflik to the-ones --
10 the last one they ]Ust asked3d lor,
Tl they had the guy on
11 the line, and he might have had the information.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy.
13 MALE SPEAKER 10: Okay?
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks.
15 MALE SPEAKER 10: Bye.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye.
17 (Beep.)
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: what is this (inaudible)
19 that's going on TV now?
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I don't know.
21 (Dial tone.)
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A23 --
23 (Di al i ng.)
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what the fuck is this
25 about?
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1 (Ringing.)
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Is that the one that
3 Washington has no fricking --
4 MALE SPEAKER 11: (inaudible.)
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi, is this -- oh, I'm
6 sorry, I got the wrong number.
7 MALE SPEAKER 11: okay, bye-bye.
8 (Dial tone, dialing.)
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Son of a bitch, okay, Mo.
10 Huntress ID, (inaudible), can I help you?
11 MALE SPEAKER 12: Yes, reference Delta 1989,
12 they did reach him on ACARS.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: It's --
14 MALE SPEAKER 12: Told him to --
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- 1989?
16 MALE SPEAKER 12: Yeah, Delta 1989.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
18 MALE SPEAKER 12: And they got him on ACARS,
19 told him to land Cleveland, and he acknowledged he
20 would land Cleveland, so he might not be a hijack.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He may not be a hijack?
22 MALE SPEAKER 12: May not be a hijack.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, where is --
24 MALE SPEAKER 12: And his tail number is
25 November 189-Delta-November.
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: November 189-delta-
2 November.
3 MALE SPEAKER 12: Delta-November.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And that's Delta 1989.
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5 MALE SPEAKER 12: Delta 1989, yes.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. Now, why --
7 MALE SPEAKER 12: (inaudible.)
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- why could he may not
9 be?
10 MALE SPEAKER 12: Because he acknowledged
11 that he would land in Cleveland. So I --
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh, he acknowledged he's
13 going to land at Cleveland?
14 MALE SPEAKER 12: Yeah, he acknowledged on
15 ACARS. He didn't acknowledge my frequency, so we're --
16 you know, he still could be; we're just not sure, but
17 we -- you might want to keep tracking him and see what
18 he's doing. I mean, if he's going down, he might
19 actually be going down to land --
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
21 MALE SPEAKER 12: -- maybe not to crash the
22 aircraft. So we're not sure.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy that.
24 MALE SPEAKER 12: Okay?
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you, sir.
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1 MALE SPEAKER 12: okay, bye.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye-bye.
3 All right, Delta
4 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
5 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
6 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
7 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- -04. He's a special.
9 He's still over there, yes.
10 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: cleveiandrs busy. Shit.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Cleveland Center.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Sorry, Mo.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: That's him. That's him.
15 (Inaudible) back on.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Anyone that's giving us
18 the information, give --
19 (Dial tone, dialing.)
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- American Airlines 11 --
21 (Ringing.)
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- and when they lost
23 altitude on him (inaudible).
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military.
0044
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi, Boston, Huntress, we
2 need a -- we have a question on American 11.
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what was his last altitude
5 and when did you lose position on him?
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: I last -- we never got -- we
7 had an ALTE report visually at 29,000 feet. Our last
8
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 29 vis.
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- our last position report
11 was about eight miles east of JFK.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Eight miles east of JFK
13 (inaudible).
14 MALE SPEAKER 3: But he had slowed down
15 considerably, so we -- we thought he could have
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16 possibly been descending.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: So we don't know if he's the
19 one who went to JFK or if he's the one that went to
20 Washington, we just don't know.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. So you don't know
22 who was the one -- what's the third -- okay, what's the
23 third one --
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: We --
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- the third aircraft?
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1 MALE SPEAKER 3: We --
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You guys don't know who's
3
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: We believed it was Delta
5 1989. However, when he was -- we asked him to respond
6 that he tries to land in cleye!and, he said he would.
7 So, therefore, I don't know if, urn --
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: And that's the one by --
01:20:00 9 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- I don't know if he's a
10 hijack or not. I really don't know.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, well --
12 MALE SPEAKER 3: I can't confirm that he is.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Do you remember
14 when we were talking about the aircraft by -- do you
15 guys have any idea who that aircraft was by --
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: By the white House?
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: we had thought, for some
19 reason, to believe it was American 11. I don't know if
20 we heard that from somebody else, that they had a
21 visual on him, that it was American Airlines, or what,
22 we just don't know. So we don't know which aircraft
23 that was. So -- we have three calls signs -- we don't
24 know who the third call sign is yet. So we have two
25 aircraft in the Towers, and one in the Pentagon, and we
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1 don't know what that third call sign was.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You don't know what the
3 third call sign was.
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: No, we — we originally
5 thought Delta 1989 was it, but now we have a third
6 (inaudible) -- that means it's, you know, possibly four
7 aircraft. However, do you still -- are you still
8 tracking Delta 1989?
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir, we still are.
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: is he -- is he descending
11 into Cleveland?
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Um --
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: Or appear to be?
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right now, no.
15 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: NO.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's at -- he's at 28,000
17 feet, 396 knots, still squawking his code.
18 .. . . squawking 1304?
MALE SPEAKER 3: StilI
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, it looks like he's
20 by Toledo.
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: By Toledo. So it doesn't
22 look like he's landing.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No.
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, uh --
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: NOW he's at 27,000 feet.
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1 MALE SPEAKER 3: He's at 27?
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah.
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: oh, then he is descending.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Sir?
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Excuse me, I'm sorry,
7 where would he be right now if he was going to be
8 landing in Cleveland? would he be descended?
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: He would be descended now.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: He would be descended, and
11 speed would be slowing.
12 MALE SPEAKER 3: Speed would be slowing.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 2:: well, it looks like he's
14 not going to go there.
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: it doesn't look like he's
16 going to Cleveland.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 2:: Nope.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: He's too high.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 2:: Okay. Yup.
20 MALE SPEAKER 3: He doesn't appear to be
21 going to Cleveland.
22 Hey, (inaudible)? Danny? That Delta doesn't
23 look like he's landing Cleveland. He's descending, but
24 his speed isn't slowing down at all, and he's still
25 heading westbound. He s over by Toledo.
0048
1 Do they have any fighters that can scramble
2 up on him?
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Stand by, one.
4 DO you guys have any fighters you can
5 scramble on the guy in Toledo?
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: They're on him.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: They're on --
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: They're on him.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 -- Toledo?
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 They're scrambling Toledo.
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 They1re on him.
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: You have fighters on him,
14 okay.
15 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Nobody (inaudible).
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: oh, stand by, one.
17 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
18 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (Inaudible) reports
19 (inaudible)?
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yes, uh, who -- who
21 (inaudible)?
22 Sir, we're looking right now, at this time,
23 to scramble somebody on Delta 89.
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: You haven't scrambled yet?
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Uh --
0049
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: You might want to scramble
2 somebody on him.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Huh? Excuse me?
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, you might want to
5 scramble on him.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 2:: Yeah --
7 MALE SPEAKER 3: is he still heading west
8 now?
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yeah, we were trying to
10 get Duluth. There was no one at Duluth. so now we're
11 -- yeah, he's heading westbound -- now we're trying to
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12 get up Toledo and scramble them.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Going north. He's going
14 north, MO.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: He's going north?
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's going north.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: okay, he just changed to a
18 northern position.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: Turned as far as -- you're
20 not sure what --
21 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) 767
22 (inaudible).
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: okay, what is that that
24 he's right over now? Toledo?
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah.
0050
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: okay, he's headed -- he's
3 on a northbound heading right now, FAA, with --
4 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (Inaudible)
5 military, other than (inaudible) —
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: North of Toledo?
7 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Would that put him in any
9 route to --
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: I don't know. You'd have to
11 talk t9 Cleveland Center, I wouldn't know what
12 direction he'd be be goin to land -
13 FEMALE SPEAKER Okay.
14 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- in Cleveland.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Cleveland is (inaudible).
17 Cleveland's right there.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Where is it?
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Cleveland's right there.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 Cleveland is south. Okay
21
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: He's turning back towards
23 Cleveland?
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: No. He's going north --
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, above.
0051
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- above Toledo.
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: He's heading north.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Yup.
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: You'd have to talk to
5 someone at Cleveland Center.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay, we're going to try
7 and get them up.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Thanks a lot for your
10 help.
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: All right.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Right.
13 (Dial tone.)
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes.
15 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: if we hear of
16 anything, Cleveland Center obviously would like us to
17 call them back.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right.
19 (Dial tone.)
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Did you call Cleveland?
21 (Dialing.)
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Did you guys --
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23 (Dial tone.)
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what did they say about
25 Cleveland? what did they say about Cleveland?
0052
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: In that book -- in that --
2 we used to have a point (inaudible) —
3 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
4 FEMALE VOICE 4: (Inaudible) ID, Sergeant
5 (inaudible).
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: wrong one.
7 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh, my God. I can't get a
9 hold of Cleveland.
10 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) -- airport in
12 Cleveland, the major airport. I don't know the name of
13 it.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Cleveland's right there.
15 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Right here.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's turning back.
17 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: There's
18 Cleveland, right there, (inaudible).
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: All right, put a -- yup --
20 put in a new z-point in at that --
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A reference point. Just
22 do a reference point.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: I don't care.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: There you go. Go ahead.
25 Huh?
0053
1 Okay, Cleveland's line is still busy.
2 Boston's the only one that's passed us information.
3 Washington doesn't know shit.
4 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: DO we have a
5 commercial line to Cleveland?
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: For Cleveland?
7 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Yes.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Cleveland -- we've been
9 talking to (inaudible) -- Cleveland is on him now,
10 they're watching him, they want him (inaudible) on our
11 side if we find out anything particular, like if Boston
12 passes us anything they find out --
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Anything that we just talk
14 about Boston to, you want me to pass to Cleveland?
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: she wants --
16 (Telephone ringing in.)
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 Open line.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: They want any heads-up --
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible),
20 can I help you?
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military, we have
22 an F-15 holding. He wants to Rnow if he should be --
23 continue to hold or ready to go or -- he's in the air.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You have an F-15 holding?
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, he 1 s in the air. He
0054
1 wants to know whether -- he's waiting to get
2 directions.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston.
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: I think -- if he needs to
5 refuel or stay in the air or -- I guess they're looking
6 to decide whether --
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
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8 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- any targets (inaudible)
9
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Stand by --
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: — (inaudible).
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- stand by, one.
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: (Inaudible.)
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 weapons? I need somebody
15 up here that --
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: He's over at Kennedy.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's over Kennedy?
18 who's got the fighter over Kennedy?
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible) 45. He's just
20 holding over Kennedy. He wants to know what he needs
21 to do.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, what's his call
23 sign?
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: what's it? Panta?
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Panta's. Plug in.
0055
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: P-a-n-t-a, Panta 45.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. Stand by, one.
3 I'm going to let you talk to our weapons officer.
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Plug in there. They want
6 t9 know -- Boston wants to know what y9u want to d9
7 with the F-15. He's calling them wanting to know if
8 he's supposed to refuel, stay up there, or what.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) F-15,
10 ai rborne. Out of where?
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Otis.
12 MALE SPEAKER 3: He's out of Otis,
13 FEMALE SPEAKER out of Otis?
14 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah. He's holding
over at
15 Kennedy, waiting for directions.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Alrighty. Stand by just a
17 second.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
19 is (inaudible) down on the ground? The
20 (inaudible) in the air, still, in our airspace?
21 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.) A
22 lot.
23 PHONE MALE SPEAKER 3: A lot? The Other
24 one's being diverted, though, correct?
25 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, (inaudible)
0056
1 Boston Center (inaudible).
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: How far is, uh, JFK direct
3 to wherever that guy is in Toledo, the Delta 1989? How
4 many miles is that?
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Sir?
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. As far as that
8 Delta 1989, we scrambled Selfridge and Toledo.
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, you did (inaudible)?
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We did scramble both. And
11 whoever gets there first.
12 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. So is he -- are you
13 still -- where is he tracking now?
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The one that he's
15 tracking, he's at 30- -- hold on. I've got to fix my
16 scope.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Is this the same guy?
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, same guy, go ahead
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19 and plug in.
20 Okay, I've got information for that F-15.
21 Hold on.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Okay. For the F-15, we'd
23 like to leave him under FAA control at a loiter
24 altitude, we want to keep him airborne. You can
25 choose the altitude.
0057
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Okay? And, basically, we
3 don't --
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible) in the air for
5 him?
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: We've got tankers in
7 whiskey 107 right now. Does he need gas?
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: He might need it. I'll try
9 to confirm that. But you want to keep him in the air.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: We want to keep him in the
11 air. we want to keep him out of the current air
12 traffic.
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yup.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: since he's airborne,
15 we'll leave him with you guys --
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: - - i n case we need him.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: All right.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: if it comes to where he
20 needs fuel --
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: --we've got our tankers
23 in Whiskey 107 on 2359.
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: what was that, again?
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: 2359, that's the tanker
0058
1 frequency, 2359.
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: 235-point-niner?
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Yeah. And they're in 107,
4 so we would basically use you to bring him --
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: -- down to --
7 MALE SPEAKER 3: No, that's fine. We'll let
8 him know that.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 5: Okay?
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. And you do have
11 fighters scrambling on the Delta?
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir, we do have
13 fighters scrambling on that, on Delta Airlines, it's
14 going to be fighters out of Selfridge and Toledo.
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: Selfridge and Toledo
16 (inaudible).
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah. Right now it looks
18 like he's heading back towards Cleveland.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, okay.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: His flight level is at
21 12,000, and descending.
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: 12,000, and he's heading
23 into Cleveland, it appears?
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, he's --
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
0059
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- he's at --
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: All right.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- 12,000, descending.
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4 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy.
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: Alrighty.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks, sir.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: Thank you. Bye.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, this is fucking
10 shit. Now --
11 (Dial tone.)
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Did somebody call
13 Cleveland and let them know? I'm sorry. Did you all
14 get a hold of Cleveland and let them know?
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 1989 is (inaudible) no
16 hijack, landing in Cleveland as a precautionary
17 measure.
18 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Delta 89?
19 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yes.
20 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.)
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Let me call Boston
22 back.
23 (Dial tone, dialing.)
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'm calling Boston back to
25 tell him.
0060
1 (Ringing.)
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'll call Boston back and
3 tell them that (inaudible) no hijack (inaudible).
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military. Hello?
5 Scoggins.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Boston, Huntress. Okay --
7 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- reference that Delta
9 1989 --
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: Y6S.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- Cleveland talked to
12 them. They talked to the pilot. He's not declaring
13 emergency, but they're going ahead -- I mean, a hijack
14 -- they're going to go ahead and land him at Cleveland
15 for precautionary measures.
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: He's not a hijack?
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: NO.
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay?
20 MALE SPEAKER 3: Thank you very much.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You're welcome.
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay, bye.
01:30:00 23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye.
24 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Go in my office, in
25 my Rolodex (inaudible).
0061
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: it's Leah. Westmoreland,
3 Pennsylvania, sweetie, (inaudible), okay, honey?
4 Cool.
5 (Dial tone.)
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: A3 -- okay, hold on -- A3
01:40:00 8 (Dialing, ringing.)
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Mo, if I --
10 (Ringing.)
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Andrews. I'm trying to
12 get a lat-long for the white House, who do I talk to
13 at Andrews?
14 ELECTRONIC VOICE: YOU have reached --
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15 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: A lat-long for the white
16 House?
17 ELECTRONIC VOICE: -- Andrews Base
18 Operations.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes.
20 ELECTRIC VOICE: Please listen carefully --
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: The white House isn't --
22 ELECTRONIC VOICE: -- as the selections have
23 changed.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Andrews is right by the
25 white House (inaudible).
0062
1 ELECTRONIC VOICE: (inaudible) --on the
2 local portion of the --
3 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: There is nothing
4 for Westmoreland (inaudible).
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: There isn't anything?
6 Tell Mo.
7 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Sergeant oooley,
8 there is nothing for Westmoreland. It's up north.
9 (Dial tone, dialing.)
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 331.
11 (Di al i ng.)
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Stand by.
13 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, stand by, one.
15 I need -- I need (inaudible).
16 (Ringing.)
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: York, Pennsylvania.
18 MALE SPEAKER 13: Washington Center, Glenn
19 Turner.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Washington, hi, this is
21 Huntress. I've got a question for you. Is there any
22 way that you have a lat-long for the white House?
23 MALE SPEAKER 13: I don't have it at this
24 moment, no.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Is there any way you guys
0063
1 could get one, or something relatively close to it?
2 MALE SPEAKER 13: Lat and long to the White
3 House? Okay, hold on.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: He's the one who said
5 (inaudible).
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
7 MALE SPEAKER 13: I've got Huntress on the
8 line. They need a lat-long for the white House.
9 Okay, you want the lat-long for the white
10 House?
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir.
12 MALE SPEAKER 13: okay, can I have -- well,
13 it's going to take a few minutes -- can I get it and
14 give you a call back?
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, go ahead.
16 MALE SPEAKER 13: okay, and I can reach you
17 on the -- the DSCS, right, the --
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right.
19 MALE SPEAKER 13: -- 608 line? Okay, good
20 enough,
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
22 MALE SPEAKER 13: I'll get to it as soon as I
23 can.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, copy.
25 MALE SPEAKER 13: All right. Bye.
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1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks.
2 4651?
3 FEMALE SPEAKER: Right.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: This is what? What?
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: well, New York just called
6 and gave us some information on him, an unidentified
7 intruder.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. A 4651 code,
9 unidentified intruder, southeast just got a call from
10 New York Center.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: Right, and I got his lat-
12 long position.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, what's the lat-
14 long, ma'am?
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: 4109.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 4109.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: 6708.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 6708, copy.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: (inaudible) --
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, I'm --
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: -- -thousand, and
22 climbing.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what's he, ma'am?
24 Fifteen?
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: He's at 15,000, and
0065
1 cli mbi ng.
2 FEMALE Okay.
SPEAKER 1:
3 FEMALE And he's on a 4651 code.
SPEAKER 6:
4 FEMALE 51 code.
SPEAKER 1:
5 FEMALE But New York doesn't have
SPEAKER 6:
6 him, and they just passed the info to us.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. So y'all don't
8 have a call sign for him, do you?
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: NO.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: That's all the info we
12 have.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Al righty.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: Your initials?
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Sierra-Rome9.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 6: Thanks. This is Romeo-
17 Hotel
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
19 PHONE FEMALE VOICE 2: Bye.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye.
21 Possible intruder, hit up that code, sweetie.
22 Southeast got information -- Southeast got
23 information from New York. They have an aircraft with
24 a possible intruder. They don't have a call sign.
25 That's the code, 4651.
0066
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Slow down. Who -- who is
2 thi s, now?
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Southeast just called us.
4 They said that New York called them. They have an
5 aircraft with an intruder on it, possible intruder
6 onboard. All right? 4651 is the code, is the mode 3.
7 That's the lat-long, right below it.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible) 51?
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, we're doing it --
10 that's the lat-long, right there. Man, I --
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11 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 4109, that was last known
12 position at what time?
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'll have to call her
14 back.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Okay.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, we --
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: We'll -- how far away is
18 he? where is he?
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We don't know. I'm just
20 locating him right now. I'm not (inaudible).
21 Okay, hold on.
22 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
23 (Dial tone, dialing.)
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Unidentified intruder on
25 the aircraft?
0067
1 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yes,
2 unidentified (inaudible) --
3 (Dial tone, dialing.)
4 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: There he is.
5 He's over water. He's over water.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: why did Southeast call
7 them?
8 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Right here.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Who's that?
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Disregard.
11 (Telephone ringing in.)
12 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: unidentified
13 intruder.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID, (inaudible),
15 can I help you?
16 FEMALE VOICE 7: Yes, is it possible to talk
17 to Maureen Dooley?
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Stand by, one. Mo,
19 somebody calling for you.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 0241 is --
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Somebody's calling for
22 you, Moe.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: where?
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: On the phone. 4651.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Is it -- is it my husband?
0068
1 FEMALE VOICE 7: No, it's your sister, but
2 I'll call back, since it's such chaos.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible.) Hello,
4 Sergeant Dooley.
5 FEMALE VOICE 7: Hi. It's just me. I'll
6 call back, it sounds like chaos.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Oh, my God, yeah
8 (inaudible). I will call you back. All right? Bye.
9 FEMALE VOICE 7: Bye.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: My sister.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Alrighty, stand by, one.
12 DO me a favor, (inaudible).
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: The one that they called
14 us and (inaudible) is an intruder?
15 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: New York's going to call
17 southeast.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Well, we don't know where
19 he's -- is that the code?
20 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Unidentified
21 intruder --
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22 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: That's the only one that
23 popped up on a 4651.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 0241 is --
0069
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 is Swordfish.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 -- Swordfish. That is not
3 -- how fast is he going?
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 15-9.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 2 He's going 350 knots at
6 15,000 feet --
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1 Hold on.
8 (Dial tone.)
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. The lat-long
10 that we got from New York, 4109, 0708.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: 4114 north, 06745 west.
12 (Dial tone, dialing.)
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's the Iat-l9ng.
14 That's the lat-long. That's her -- that's initials.
15 (Telephone ringing in.)
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Open line.
17 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, Uh --
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Huntress ID.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3 -- Scoggins, Military.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, sir.
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, we got a squawk 4651.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, we've got him pulled
23 up. I've got a question. what's that all about?
24 MALE SPEAKER 3: we don't know who it is.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You -- huh?
0070
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: we don't know who that is.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You don't know who that
3 is?
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: No.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Did you get a possible --
6 all right, he could be a possibility 9f one of our
7 Swordfish aircraft that -- we've got information from
8 Southeast, from Oak Grove --
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- saying that New York
11 called them, saying there was a possible intruder
12 onboard.
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Is that what you got?
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: No. And what was that on?
16 On what?
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: On the code that you just
18 gave me, the 4651.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: There's a possible intruder
20 onboard?
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That's what the Southeast
22 said New York told them, what information did you guys
23 get?
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Who --
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: This is Boston.
0071
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible^) All's we know
2 is we had "tin's" co^e 4651 that popped up. DO you nave~"
3 Jrim t r a c k e d . ' _ "
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, we have a track on
5 him right now.
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: Can you put the Panta on
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7 him?
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Can we what?
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: Can you put that F-15 in 107
10 on him?
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, copy.
12 MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible) okay.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. Stand by, one.
14 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hey, B9Ston'S --
16 Okay, Boston, you're talking about the 4651,
17 you want us to go ahead --
18 MALE SPEAKER 3: I would -- I W9Uld go
19 intercept and see who it is. we have no idea who that
20 aircraft --
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: You have no idea --
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- (inaudible) New York
23 (inaudible).
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- who that is, and you
25 want us to intercept on him.
0072
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yes, I'd like you to
2 intercept that target.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. Stand by, one.
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: I've got the lat-long for
5 you. But you're tracking him, is that correct?
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, we're tracking him.
7 The lat-long was --
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) talking about?
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: - - i t was 4116 north,
10 06759 west.
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: That's close enough.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay, copy.
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay?
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yes.
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: And the Panta -- you're
16 going to take the Panta in that direction?
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Stand by, one, we're going
18 to find out.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: if you want, we'll give you
20 a handoff on him.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, well, hold on.
22 Okay?
23 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Real quick.
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: Look at it going. Looked at
0073
1 a squawk 4651. Do you see him out there?
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Pull that squawk up. Do
3 you have it?
4 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah.
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible) 54 squawk.
6 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: He left the
7 track out. I don't know why.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: It could be the Panta 45.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: wel1, go ahead and hit him
10 up, Leah.
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: So you still see the Panta
12 45, the F-15 that we sent over earlier?
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what are we doing?
14 MALE SPEAKER 3: That's Coast Guard 2121?
15 Okay. All right.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: I know what he's --
17 MALE SPEAKER 3: what's his squawk now, 4625?
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18 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: This one -- this guy right
19 here, right?
20 MALE SPEAKER 3: And he is a (inaudible)
21 2121?
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's pulling. Pull up the
23 TD.
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Make him a Delta.
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: Hold on one second
0074
1 (inaudible).
2 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Did he give
3 this --
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'll pop up the mode.
5 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I'm going to
6 put it in one.
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Bravo 464.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: They did, okay, we -- hold
9 on one second, (inaudible). Nance? Nance?.
10 .FEMALEJSPEAKER 1: Did he swap code? _
11 MALE SPEAKElTT:7?57~fie~lttTh—we~-tJeTTeve
12 he's a Coast Guard 2121.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, that's what we
14 figured he was, sir.
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, fine.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Airighty. So he's fine.
17 MALE SPEAKER 3: He's fine. Okay, thank you.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. Thanks.
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: All right. Bye.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: okay, listen (inaudible)
22 4651, another possible hijack.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: We have released that
24 line, this is a son of a bitch.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hold on. Grab me the --
0075
1 all right, where are you, honey?
01:50:00 2 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Wrong one. 364.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) 51 . 51
4 (i naudi ble).
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Mo, what's the desk? New
6 York's calling me back — I mean, not New York --
7 Washington's calling me back with the lat-long for the
8 white House, because all I have that's closest to it is
9 Andrews, and I don't know how you want to --
10 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Okay. They're
11 calling you back?
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, they're supposed to
13 call us back.
14 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: okay. Because we
15 need (inaudible) --
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what was the freq you
17 want?
18 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: For --
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: For the Swordfish
20 (inaudible).
21 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: For you to --
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, (inaudible).
23 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: -- (inaudible) it
24 was 3542.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 354 -- okay, normal one.
0076
1 Here, what's my thing?
2 (Di al i ng.)
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3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Normal (inaudible) 53 --
4 (Di al i ng.)
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do you want me to do
6 "unknown rider, unknown rider"? Okay, ready? okay,
7 unknown rider, what is the hour?
8 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Huh?
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what is the hour?
10 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible)
11 unknown.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Unknown rider, unknown
13 rider at position 4122 north, 06839 west, this is
14 Huntress. Authenticate AKAA283-Gulf-Kilo?.
15 Okay. What's -- what's my thing to come back
16 on?
17 (Telephone ringing in.)
18 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Romeo.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Romeo?
20 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Huntress ID
21 (inaudible), how may I help you?
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Am I going out?
23 (inaudible.)
24 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Yes -- uh, yes,
25 sir. Okay, diverting, uh --
0077
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Am I even going out?
2 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.) And
3 your initials, please?
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: unknown rider, unknown
5 rider at position 4123 north, 06847 west, this is
6 Huntress. Authenticate AKAA283-Gulf-Kilo.
',S\\ 7
8
FEMALE SPEAKER 2: who are you
authenticating?
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Swordfish. Do I do
10 "unknown rider," or do I say "Swordfish"? I was saying
11 "unknown rider." If she's on the line, can I not use
12 it?
13 Swordfish 21, Swordfish 21, this is Huntress.
° 14
15
16
Authenticate AKAA283-Gulf-Kilo.
Huh? Grab your headset, girl. I can't do
that one. I can't do that 9ne. I can't do it.
17 I'm not getting him. What are you getting?
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Let's call (inaudible)
19 Internet, one that it was -- they're talking about
20 where that z-point is?
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Tell him (inaudible).
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Unknown rider, unknown
24 rider at position 4125 north, 06858 west, this is
25 Huntress. Authenticate AKAA283-Gulf-Kilo.
0078
1 I can't get him. I can't get him. I'm going
2 to get him. I'm going to get --
3 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
4 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
5 MALE SPEAKER 3: Scoggins, Military.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: uh, yes, Mr. Scoggins,
7 this is staff Sergeant Richman, from Huntress ID, here.
8 MALE SPEAKER 3: yes.
9 FEMALE VOICE 3: I need to find out if you've
10 got any information on that 4651 code. We're trying to
11 research it right now. I know that --
12 MALE SPEAKER 3: That 4651, I believe, was a
13 Coast Guard 2121.
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14 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: A Coast Guard 2121?
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: 21, yes.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Type aircraft?
17 MALE SPEAKER 3: Stand by.
18 (inaudible) could you give the type aircraft
19 on the Coast Guard 2121?
20 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Okay.
21 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: I am really
22 (inaudible).
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Good. He's going home.
24 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) 20.
25 MALE SPEAKER 3: Thank you.
0079
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, HU25.
2 MALE SPEAKER 3: And hold on one second,
3 please.
4 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay, um, we have the
5 information on the aircraft. According to our
6 information, he's supposed to be going back to Otis at
7 1030 local. — '
8 " MALE SPEAKER 3: okay.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Um --
10 MALE SPEAKER 3: He's on his way back now, as
11 far as I know.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: okay, well, it looks like
13 right now he's currently at 356 knots and desce- -- and
14 lowering, and at 6,200 feet, and it looks like
15 descending.
16 MALE SPEAKER 3: Into Otis?
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: That's what it looks like
18 at this time --
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: - - s i r . Yes, sir.
21 MALE SPEAKER 3: okay. All right. Yeah,
22 that's what we -- we believe h e ' s -- w e ' r e working him.
23 w e ' r e working (inaudible) --
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Um, yeah, we tried to
25 contact him on guard, and had no luck with that.
0080
1 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay. No, we are working
2 the aircraft (inaudible) --
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: You are working --
4 MALE SPEAKER 3: -- Otis.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- the aircraft? You're
6 —
7 MALE SPEAKER 3: ,Yes, we are_^
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 3 : - - TaTkfng to him, and
9 everything is aLI set? •
10 MALESPEAKER 3: That JS correct.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 3:"" Okay.—Because now I show
12 him squawking a 4625 (inaudible) --
13 MALE SPEAKER 3: That's correct.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- (inaudible).
15 MALE SPEAKER 3: He did change codes. That's
16 how we confi rmed who he was.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: okay. NOW, what about the
18 4651 code?
19 MALE SPEAKER 3: Do you still see one out
20 there?
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: No, I haven't been --
22 MALE SPEAKER 3: Oh.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- able to pick anything
24 up.
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25 MALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah, 46- - - h e swapped to
0081
1 4625.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
3 MALE SPEAKER 3: He came over on a 4651.
4 They had him swap to a 4625.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Okay.
6 MALE SPEAKER 3: Okay?
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: All right, sir. Thank you
8 very much.
9 MALE SPEAKER 3: You're welcome.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible.)
11 MALE SPEAKER 3: Bye.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Yeah. According to Boston
13 Military, he was on a 4651 code --
14 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Uh-huh.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- but then they got in
16 contact with him, had him switch to the 4625 code.
17 (Telephone ringing in.)
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: it is a Coast Guard 2121,
19 an HU25 --
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: we have another
21 (inaudible).
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: -- going back to Otis.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Out over Kentucky
24 (inaudible), (inaudible), look up -- (inaudible) --
25 hold on --
0082
1 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: MO?
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) as far as we
3 can --
4 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: I got the book.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: -- primary (inaudible).
6 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay, I got the
7 book for Kentucky.
8 (whistle to get attention.)
9 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Quiet down a little
10 bit. Use the intercom.
11 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I'm looking it
12 right now.
13 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Louisville, or
14 whatever, it's going to be right down below.
15 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: DO we have
02:00:00 16 anything on (inaudible)? All right, we've got another
17 one that's lost (inaudible).
18 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: what -- what --
19 which one, the Coast Guard?
20 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay, here we
21 go. You ready?
22 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, go for it
23 (inaudible).
24 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Put your
25 reference point --
0083
1 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Hold on.
2 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay, make it a
3 KLOU --
4 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: KLO?
5 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: KLO Oh,
6 wai t.
7 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible)
8 reference. That way they all know --
9 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: No -- yeah,
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10 that's good.
11 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.)
12 Now, what's the lat-long.
13 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: urn, latitude
14 3813 north.
15 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE Okay.
SPEAKER:
16 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 085
SPEAKER:
17 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE 085
SPEAKER:
18 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE -- -39 west.
SPEAKER:
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Talk to Munken right now
20 and find out =who the hell that (inaudible).
21 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Where?
22 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: where is that?
23 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Right here.
24 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Do you know who
25 they are?
0084
1 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Give me a lat-long.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible), bring up the
3 lat-long for Bill.
4 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay,
5 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) got
6 him on the phone right now.
7 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: It's in two.
8 YOU calling Canada?
9 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah.
10 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Want me to --
11 want me to go --
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible)?
13 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKEBj_K£ah-_
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah , | ^J.
15 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:; (Inaudible) squawk
16 on that or — i
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: On whjich one? No
18 (inaudible). i
19 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: One's squawking
20 a 2000 code, and the other one's oh straight search.
21 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Oh, wait.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) those four --
23 yeah, we're going to have -- I
24 (Telephone ringing in.) i
25 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Open line.
0085
1 (Dial tone, dialing.) !
2 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: 94?
3 (Dial tone.) i
4 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Huntress ID
5 (inaudible). i
6 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Unplug one.
7 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER:! (Inaudible) is on
8 the line (inaudible) type aircraft.
9 (Telephone ringing in.) i
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Huntress ID, Staff
11 sergeant Richman, unsecure line, how can I help you?
12 MALE SPEAKER 14: StaffiSergeant Richman, I
13 need to get in touch with Bill Aires immediately.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 3 :" ^Ok^yl
15 MALE SPEAKER 14: Is he;in the battle staff
16 or -- j
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Uh, let me check around.
18 MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay.i
19 is everyone on the ground yet? Do we have
20 everybody on the ground?
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21 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: we don't know.
22 MALE SPEAKER 14: Oh.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: We don't know.
24 MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: Hold on. I'm looking for
0086
1 him. I don't see him anywhere around where --
2 MALE SPEAKER 14: (inaudible.)
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: I don't have any free
4 lines now, sir.
5 MALE SPEAKER 14: I need -- I needed to speak
6 to someone at battle staff, a senior director, we've
7 had an airborne threat on the building, and we're ready
8 to evacuate Boston Center. So I need to speak to
9 someone quick and -- just to let them know.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: We're trying to get
11 someone right now, sir.
12 MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay.
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 3: I've got a phone call here
14 that needs to talk to someone higher up.
15 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: What is this
16 pertaining to, sir?
17 MALE SPEAKER 14: Boston Center, the building
18 being shut down due to an airborne threat.
19 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay. It's
20 Boston Center. The building's being checked out due to
21 an airborne threat. They need to talk to somebody
22 higher up, somebody --
23 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Somebody
24 important, right?
25 MALE SPEAKER 14: Yes, somebody important.
0087
1 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Very
2 (inaudible). Okay, I got my MCC tech right now, sir,
3 and he's getting somebody.
4 MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay.
5 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I'm sorry about
6 that. I'm just trying to get (inaudible).
7 MALE SPEAKER 14: Okay.
8 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: it's been crazy
9 here this morning.
10 MALE SPEAKER 14: Yes (inaudible).
11 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.)
12 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Make sure you put
13 everything on speaker, Terry.
14 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Huh?
15 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Make sure you put
16 everything on speaker. On speaker, just in case they
17 -- everyone leaves the building.
18 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay. The DSN,
19 sir, 94587.
20 MALE SPEAKER 14: Yes.
21 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: 94587?
22 MALE SPEAKER 14: 94587? 9458- oh --
23 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: 94587- --
24 MALE SPEAKER 14: Yeah.
25 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: -- -6304.
0088
1 MALE SPEAKER 14: 6403.
2 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yes, sir.
3 MALE SPEAKER 14: Thank you.
4 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: And that is DSN.
5 You're welcome.
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6 MALE SPEAKER 14: (inaudible.)
7 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Bye-bye.
8 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: New York, this
9 is Huntress on a 58 line.
10 MALE SPEAKER 15: Yes .
11 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: We have a
12 aircraft out there, Gold 99. It's a four ship. I was
13 trying to get some amplifying data on it.
14 MALE SPEAKER 15: Right, okay. Gold 99 is
15 one KC-10 accompanied by six A-lOs.
16 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Six A-lOs?
17 Okay. Do you know what -- do you have origin and
18 destination on them?
19 MALE SPEAKER 15: All right. The origin is
20 Lima-Echo-Mike-Oscar.
21 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Lima-Echo- --
22 okay.
23 MALE SPEAKER 15: And destination is Bangor,
24 Bravo-Gulf -Romeo.
25 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: They're going
0089
1 to Bangor?
2 MALE SPEAKER 15: Right, correct.
3 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Got it, thanks.
4 MALE SPEAKER 15: okay, sure.
02:11:00 5 (Telephone ringing in.)
6 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Huntress ID, - /? ^ , //f'
7 (inaudible), can I help you? A , /t f~OK(-
8 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Hi, Huntress ' ' ' ft /L/
9 This is (inaudible), again, reference Air Force one. l'
10 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Uh, yeah, go
11 ahead.
12 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay. We
13 talked to Jack Center, because it looks like he's going
14 westbound now.
15 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER All right, wait
16 a minute. You talked to who?
17 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER (inaudible) --
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Where is he at?
19 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay, lis
listen.
20 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER Okay, you
21 talked to Jack Center.
22 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: GO ahead.
23 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: West of
24 Tallahassee, we thought he was going to Andrews, we
25 called Jacksonville to see if he was deviating, and
0090
1 they said he -- it's unknown where he's going at this
2 time.
3 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay.
4 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: SO Jacksonville
5 can't tell us his destination.
6 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Are they in
7 contact with anybody, or are they just - -
8 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yes, they are.
9 They're talking to Jacksonville Center.
10 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Oh, okay.
11 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay? But we
12 just don't have a destination, if we fi nd one or if he
13 lands, we'll call and let you know.
14 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: All right,
15 thanks.
16 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay.
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17 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: All right.
18 Bye-bye.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: she's scaring the fuck out
20 of me.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Southeast will be
22 controlling him.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: she just called us, I
24 know. Okay.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: He is airborne (inaudible)
0091
1 west of -- yeah, he's west of Tallahassee, but an
2 unknown destination.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: They still aren't
4 answering, shelly.
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible) may be -- let
6 him --
7 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Let him get in closer?
8 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: HOW far --
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible) unknown rider.
10 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: HOW far -- give
11 me bearing a bearing range for (inaudible) 53?
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, somewhere
13 (inaudible).
14 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah (inaudible)
15 53.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 172.
17 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, this is
18 (inaudible). And then 54 -- 5451?
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Do we have radios for
20 that, though?
21 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: I don't think SO.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I don't think so either.
23 (inaudible) 144.
24 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: They've got to
25 get closer.
0092
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. So I'll tell
2 Shelly that, because they're freaking.
3 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Let him get
4 closer. And they're supposed to call us as soon as
5 they get in range.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what do you need?
7 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Your checklist
8 (inaudible). Give me a commercial phone number to the
9 WADS.
10 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: To the WADS, commercial?
11 it's right here, hold on.
12 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: 703- —
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: it's 382 -- okay? 38- --
14 oh, commercial?
15 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. 94- -- it's
17 going to be 984. That's their -- that's their
18 commercial -- 984, whatever number you need to dial.
19 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Well, what's the
20 area code?
21 FFMAI F SPEAKER 1: Area code is going to be
22 | \- whatever you number you need to dial for
23 tne last tour extension. . .
24 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: N.Q..-J | i S gone.
25 382 is —
0093
1 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: For commercial.
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2 Commercial is 984.
3 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Okay.
4 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: (Inaudible)
5 commercial number.
6 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: 253
7 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Oh, shit, I
8 (inaudible) my car running outside.
9 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Gi rl, you go.
10 (Laughing.)
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Fucking-A, Leah. All
12 right, find me -- I'm going brain dead, and before I
13 flip the fuck out, can you help me find -- (inaudible)
14 I need the Air Force mode 2. why the hell can't I find
15 them? I'm going nuts, Lee.
16 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.)
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 00- -- they wouldn't be
18 NORAD, would they? I need a 06- -- 0061.
19 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: -- 99, Huntress on
20 guard, Authenticate (inaudible) 506-alpha-alpha-echo.
21 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: He's coming OUt
22 of 54.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay. NOW --
24 what?
25 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) Z-point
0094
1 out there.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Right.
3 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: So what does that
4 (inaudible) --
5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That was -- no, no, no,
6 that was -- why do they have a pending on it?
7 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Pending is being
8 pulled in right underneath (inaudible).
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: From -- from where?
10 Charlie? Being pulled in?
11 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: That -- yeah,
12 that --
13 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: That was the
14 4651 code that (inaudible).
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Alrighty. That's
16 Swordfish 21. Okay, go ahead and drop all that crap
17 out, and let me call their ID section real quick.
18 (Dial tone.)
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: what's the -- what's the
20 number?
21 (Dial tone, dialing.)
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you, baby. Oh, this
23 is crazy.
24 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
25 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: They can't --
0095
1 they didn't get it. They couldn't --
2 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: That doesn't do me
3 any good. I'm not yelling. That doesn't do me any
4 good.
5 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: She Couldn't
6 get it from New York.
7 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) under
8 attack. I want to know type aircraft and call sign.
9 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Who said that?
10 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) said
11 that.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: we have to call New York
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for that. Canada doesn't know it. She couldn't get
the information from New York. They said that it was a
four craft. She made it friendly (inaudible).
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: The one behind it.
Behind it.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Well, one single ship
behind it. That —
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: 0265.
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Got it. C9py. I'll get
it. I'll get it. I'm sorry, Joe. I didn't know.
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: That's all right.
(Dial tone, dialing.)
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: NO, (inaudible) not.
(Dial tone, dialing.)
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.)
(Dial tone.)
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: He's right there.
ight up then
BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible)
; .... - I want
aircraft type, call sign, the whole nine yards, I
ain't taking no chances.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: When they call
-- when they're passing over, tell their ID to call and
pass everything --
FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Okay.
12 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: -- (inaudible).
13 (Ringing.)
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. Here -- I remember
15 it better if I write it down, Leah. Yeah.
16 MALE SPEAKER 16: 21 squadron ID, Corporal
17 Myers.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi, this is Huntress,
19 reference --
20 MALE SPEAKER 16: Yeah.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- 0265 over by Kudas in
22 Kings, it's on a 4342 code. Do you know who that is?
23 MALE SPEAKER 16: okay, stand by.
24 Okay, bring up the friendlies that
25 (inaudible). 0265.
0097
1 Okay, yes, we have identified them friendly.
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right. Do you know
3 who he is?
4 MALE SPEAKER 16: uh, stand by.
5 Do we know who that (inaudible)?
6 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.) That
7 was the one that was --
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I need to find out who it
9 is.
10 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) New
11 York Amos (inaudible) ID --
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: How did New York identify
13 that shit? You know they didn't.
14 MALE SPEAKER 16: I'm getting briefed that
15 New York gave us a confident ID on that aircraft.
16 * UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER:
17 Just to let you know, from our side --
18 MALE SPEAKER 16: Yup.
19 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: -- that we're
20 getting that we want --
21 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: We want --
22 MALE SPEAKER 16: Call sign?
23 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: -- all
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24 amplifying data on it.
25 MALE SPEAKER 16: I'm sorry?
0098
1 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I said, just to
2 let you know, we're getting, from our MCC position --
3 MALE SPEAKER 16: YufT — •
4 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: -- any aircraft
5 -- we're not just going to take a straight-up friendly.
6 We need —
7 MALE SPEAKER 16: Yeah.
8 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: -- type
9 aircraft. So if you guys can get that and pass it to
10 us ahead of time — like, if you talk to New York
11 first, just let them know we need to know everything on
12 them, we can't take chances.
13 MALE SPEAKER 16: Okay, then.
14 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay? So --
15 MALE SPEAKER 16: (inaudible.)
16 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: -- if YOU can
17 find out more info on that, just give us a call.
18 MALE SPEAKER 16: we'll give it a shot there.
19 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Okay, thanks.
20 MALE SPEAKER 16: Okay.
21 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Bye-bye.
22 PHONE MALE SPEAKER 15: Bravo-Mike.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible.) Now, what
24 are -- what the hell's going on? what are you looking
25 for? it crashed?
0099 \
1 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: NO, Asheville -- p*P
2 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, but that plane '
3 crashed?
4 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible.) I
5 don't know.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: who the hell did this?
7 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: I don't have an
8 Asheville. I have an Ashland., // <—t— n •>
9 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: There is no ^-^A^(^<LjQj^ '
10 Asheville in here? ^1
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: There's not an airport, fl
02:20:00 12 then. There's no airport there, so we don't know. v
13 Let's go grab it.
14 Huh?
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 2: Four aircraft, total.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Now, let me do this.
17 where is Munken? what's the number for Munken?
18 (Dial tone, dialing.)
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, give me --
20 (Ringing.)
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: That son of a bitch.
22 MALE SPEAKER 17: (inaudible) Base
23 Operations, (inaudible), may I may help you?
24 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Munken?
25 MALE SPEAKER 17: Hello?
0100
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Is this Munken?
2 MALE SPEAKER 17: NO, this is --
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: oh, I'm sorry. I got the
4 wrong number.
5 MALE SPEAKER 17: Yes, you're welcome.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thanks.
7 MALE SPEAKER 17: Bye.
8 (Dial tone.)
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9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 8308.
10 (Dialing.)
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Who did I call?
12 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (Inaudible.)
13 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Probably. Give me a
14 bearing range. Hold on.
15 (Ringing.)
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Fucking, they just --
17 there's two. There's fucking two. Oh, Munken better
18 pick up the damn phone.
19 (Ringing.)
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Munken, pick up the phone.
21 (Ringing.)
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible) Munken.
23 Munken?
24 (Ringing.)
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I understand New York
0101
1 being -- Boston's the only one feeding us anything.
2 (Ringing.)
3 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: DUSt to confirm
4 we're talking to who we're supposed to be talking to
5 (inaudible). You know what I mean?
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Who?
7 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: See, I don't know
8 where this is from.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Or Boston's -- no, Boston
10 was the one feeding us all this shit. And as they were
11 saying stuff --
12 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: (inaudible)
13 blowing up (inaudible).
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: This -- this is w h a t ' s
15 been killing me. No, this is what —
16 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: I can't find
17 (inaudible).
18 BACKGR9UND FEMALE SPEAKER: I'm looking for
19 -- it's in the middle of Kentucky.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: They told us all about --
21 Boston told us about the white House and the Pentagon
22 ones.
23 BACKGR9UND MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) Air
24 Force One (inaudible).
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Sure.
0102
1 BACKGROUND MALE SPEAKER: Call d9wn to
2 Southeast and tell them to fricking (inaudible).
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Copy.
4 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
5 MALE SPEAKER 18: Oak Grove ID.
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi, Oak Grove, this is
7 Huntress. I'ye got a question to ask you. will you
8 please tell (inaudible) Air Force One for information?
/ 9 MALE SPEAKER 18: Well, the last thing I see
10 here, we were telling it, but let me see what we got
11 here.
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Alriqhty.
13 MALE SPEAKER 18: I'm showing it being out to
14 --for information.
15 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Out for information?
16 MALE SPEAKER 18: Uh, but, uh, to -- yeah,
17 I'm showing it being told out right now.
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (Inaudible.) Hold on a
19 minute, what code do you guys have him on?
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20 MALE SPEAKER 18: 3755.
21 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 3755. And approximately
22 where is he at right now?
23 MALE SPEAKER 18: urn, well , let ' s see. The
24 biggest city around him there. Do you know where
25 Atlanta is? Do you guys (inaudible) --
0103
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, I know where
2 Atlanta's at.
3 MALE SPEAKER 18: — Atlanta? Okay, well,
4 he's -- well, he's a long ways away from Atlanta. He's
5 southwest of Atlanta for about 237 miles. He's about
6 to cross from -- he's kind of flying along the Gulf
7 Coast, and he's about to cross from the -- probably
8 Alabama into Mississippi.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh , I see him. That's
10 (inaudible). Alrighty. Yeah, he's right over
11 Louisiane.
12 MALE SPEAKER 18: Yeah, well, he's fixing to
13 get over Louisiana.
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Fixing to go over there.
15 MALE SPEAKER 18: Yes.
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Yeah, okay, copy.
17 MALE SPEAKER 18: All right?
18 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Thank you, sir.
19 MALE SPEAKER 18: Yeah.
20 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Bye-bye.
21 MALE SPEAKER 18: (inaudible.)
22 BACKGROUND FEMALE SPEAKER: Colonel?
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Can you release the line,
24 Mo? I've got to --
02:45:00 25 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
0104
1 MALE SPEAKER 19: Canada East ID, Corporal
2 Myers.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi. I called the wrong
4 number, I'm sorry. This is Huntress. Sorry.
5 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
6 MALE SPEAKER 18: Oak Grove ID, Sergeant
7 Eld ridge.
8 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Hi. Huntress calling.
9 Listen, the crew commander is asking information on Air
10 Force One. Can you give me a heads-up, please?
11 MALE SPEAKER 18: Like what --
12 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: where --
13 MALE SPEAKER 18: -- type of information?
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- he is. I know all the
15 information, as far as what he is and everything,
16 where he is, what's going on, have you heard anything,
17 do you know how he is, all that good stuff.
18 MALE SPEAKER 18: Urn, well, right now - well,
19 since the last time I spoke to you, no. The only --
20 the only thing we know is -- is he is currently --
21 well, let's see --
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Go ahead with the lat-
23 long, because we have the --
24 MALE SPEAKER 18: Lat-long? Okay.
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: -- radar coverage.
0105
1 MALE SPEAKER 18: All right. 3146 north,
2 09103 west.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Current position. Okay.
4 MALE SPEAKER 18: He is tracking 284 degrees.
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5 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Tracking 284?
6 MALE SPEAKER 18: Yes. Hers at about 420
7 knots at 36- --
8 (Dial tone.)
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
10 MALE SPEAKER 18: He's at 36,000 feet.
11 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: (inaudible.)
12 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Sir? Hello?
13 MALE SPEAKER 18: Hello?
14 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: No, you've got him.
15 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, we've got
16 you. Hold on a sec. we've got you. we're coming
17 back. I got you. Go ahead.
18 MALE SPEAKER 18: Okay.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'm sorry, go ahead.
20 MALE SPEAKER 18: Did you hear what I said?
21 37,000 feet -- or 35,600 feet now. It looks like he's
22 descending. Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I'm sorry. Go ahead.
24 MALE SPEAKER 18: Okay, where did you leave
25 off at?
0106
1 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: I've got three thousand --
2 35- -- shit -- you said he's descending.
3 MALE SPEAKER 18: Yeah, actually he's down to
4 four now, so I don't know where he's descending to, but
5
6 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: 4,000 feet?
7 MALE SPEAKER 18: No, he's down to 35,100
8 now.
9 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay. And what is near
10 the 3146 north, 0910(inaudible) west?
11 MALE SPEAKER 18: Well._Barksda1e Air Force
12 Base, in Louisiana. He' s ki'hd or-- his heading takes
13 "Trim right to Barksdale, but he's still 127 miles from
14 there. That's about the nearest Air Force base. He's
15 not really headed towards Houston. That's probably the
16 closest big city.
17 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: okay, we probably
18 shouldn't say, anyways, what I'll do is, I'll go ahead
19 and pass the information to the crew commander, and if
20 he has anything else he needs, we'll go ahead and get
21 it from you.
22 MALE SPEAKER 18: Okay.
23 FEMALE SPEAKER 1: All right, thank you.
02:48:00 24 MALE SPEAKER 18: (inaudible.)
25 (Telephone ringing in.)
0107
1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) line.
2 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Huntress ID,
3 Sergeant (inaudible).
4 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yes, can you
5 give me the BX number?
6 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: No, I'm sorry,
7 ma'am. I'm -- you -- I'm kind of busy right now.
8 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: My son works
9 there, and his daughter works in Washington, D.C., and
10 I want to get a hold of him, please.
11 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Ma'am, we can't
12 take that -- we can't help you right now. we're in a
13 crisis situation. We don't have --
14 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I know you --
15 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: -- that number.
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16 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I know YOU are.
17 I am, too. My daughter -- my granddaughter works in
18 Washington, D.C. I want to get a hold of my son so he
19 can get a hold of her.
20 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Stand by, one
21 minute, ma'am.
22 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Ma'am, what IS
23 your name?
24 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Josephine
25 Lizinski, and my son, Paul Lizinski, works in BX. I
0108
02:50:00 1 don't have the number.
2 (Dial tone.)
3 (Dial tone.)
4 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
5 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Boston, Huntress
6 ID, on the 89-9. Oh, you've got to do line 1. You're
7 trying to get through to Boston? Oh, I'm sorry.
8 (Click.)
9 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Boston, Huntress
10 ID, on the 89 line.
11 (Click.)
12 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Boston, Huntress
13 ID, on the 90-9. Boston, Huntress ID, on the 91-9.
14 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
15 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Can't get through
16 one at DSN.
17 (Dial tone, dialing, busy signal.)
18 (Dial tone, dialing.)
19 (Sustained buzzing.)
20 (Ringing.)
21 (Dial tone.)
22 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I can't get
23 through to them.
24 (Dialing tone, dialing.)
25 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: (inaudible) line
0109
1
2 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I have.
3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: -- Boston?
4 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I have. I've
5 tried all three 9f them.
6 (Sustained buzzing.)
7 (Ringing.)
8 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I've tried every
9 number we've got. I think the DSN system's --
10 (Ringing.)
11 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: -- locked up.
12 MALE SPEAKER 20: Boston.
13 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I got h i m .
14 Hey, this is Huntress ID. Apparently, we've
15 got a couple of guys that are within a 50-miles-south
16 radius.
17 MALE SPEAKER 20: Of where?
18 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Of Albany.
19 MALE SPEAKER 20: Okay.
20 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: One guy's on a
21 1200.
22 MALE SPEAKER 20: Okay, you know what? Hold
23 on, let me go over there and take a look.
24 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yup.
25 MALE SPEAKER 20: All right.
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1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay, thank you.
2 MALE SPEAKER 20: Okay (inaudible), what do
3 you need?
4 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: South of Albany,
5 about 80 miles. He's more southwest. I've got a guy
6 (inaudible) 6300 feet.
7 MALE SPEAKER 20: okay, that may be a state
8 -- I don't have a code, but that may be a state police
9 guy. Before we evacuated the building, we did have the
10 coordination with them that someone would be going down
11 south --
12 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay.
13 MALE SPEAKER 20: -- (inaudible) a
14 helicopter. So I don't know if that is the same guy.
15 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay.
16 MALE SPEAKER 20: We're trying to get the
17 target to come up.
18 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay. I've got,
19 like, three or four tracks I'm going to ask about, is
20 that okay? Have you got a second?
21 MALE SPEAKER 20: No, but I always have time
22 for you. What have you got?
23 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Thanks a lot.
24 Urn, 42 miles, uh, southwest -- southwest --
25 west/southwest, I'm sorry, of Albany. And this guy is
0111
1 on a 4326 (inaudible) 6200 feet.
2 MALE SPEAKER 20: Okay, 4326 code, you said?
3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: 4326, yup.
4 MALE SPEAKER 20: okay. I don't have
5 anything stored on the aircraft. I do see him out
6 there, but I do not have anything stored on him.
7 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: SO you don't know
8 who he is either.
9 MALE SPEAKER 20: I do not know who he is.
10 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay. Stand by,
11 one second.
12 Sir, are you still there?
13 MALE SPEAKER 20: Huntress, did you have
14 somebody else holding?
15 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, one real
16 quick thing.
17 MALE SPEAKER 20: Go.
18 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Urn, (inaudible)
19 south of Albany again -- 80 miles directly south of
20 Albany on a 0342 at 2,000 feet.
21 MALE SPEAKER 20: 0342. You know what? That
22 could be the -- one of those two guys could be the
23 state police.
24 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay.
25 MALE SPEAKER 20: I do not have anything,
0112
1 and, like I said, we would normally; but we don't have
2 any controllers at the positions
3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay. NO
4 problem.
5 MALE SPEAKER 20: All right.
6 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Thanks
7 (inaudible).
8 MALE SPEAKER 20: You're welcome. Bye.
9 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: SO --
10 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He has a Delta
11 and who?
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12 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: The Delta IS a
13 1200 code, okay? That's five --
14 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.
15 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: -- five-seven,
16 This friendly here, Bravo 602 and 651 he has no idea
17 who those three guys are.
18 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER They have no
19 controllers.
20 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Right. Right.
21 So you want to make 'em all Deltas for now?
22 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.
23 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: They're
24 friendlies, originally.
25 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yes.
0113
1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Because they
2 originated over us. ^
3 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, the last
4 one --
5 (Telephone ringing in.)
6 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Open line.
7 Huntress ID, Sergeant Booth.
8 MALE SPEAKER 21: Sergeant Booth, Sergeant
9 Gow. Bravo 545, who is he?
10 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: 545.
11 MALE SPEAKER 21: ^YeaJT^ he's a special,
12 headed towards_D.C.
13 1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yup, hang on.
14 That's a special 7.
15 MALE SPEAKER 21: Special 7?
16 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He's going to be
17 (inaudible) soon. Yup.
18 MALE SPEAKER 21: Yeah, I saw -- I saw the
19 symbology with (inaudible) earlier.
20 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yup.
21 MALE SPEAKER 21: Special 7, copy.
22 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay?
23 MALE SPEAKER 21: Yup, thanks.
24 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yup.
25 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: It's very
0114
1 general. Call Washington Center.
2 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yup.
3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Find out what
4 type aircraft it is.
5 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay.
6 (Dial tone, dialing.)
7 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I need a
8 departure, too.
9 (Ringing.)
10 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Now, was this
11 because of the incident or --
12 (Ringing.)
13 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: -- before it?
14 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: No, this is --
15 (Dial tone, dialing, ringing.)
16 FEMALE SPEAKER 8: (inaudible.)
17 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah, how're you
18 doing? Huntress ID here.
19 FEMALE SPEAKER 8: Yes?
20 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Calling in
21 reference to -- we have a -- the attorney general up.
22 FEMALE SPEAKER 8: A what?
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23 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: The attorney
24 general?
25 FEMALE SPEAKER 8: Yes.
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1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay. This guy's
2 on a 6522. I need departure/destination on him.
3 FEMALE SPEAKER 8: Hold on for a second,
4 please.
5 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Sure thing,
6 ma'am.
7 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Hey, Huntress?
03:00:00 8 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yes, sir?
9 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Okay, let me see,
10 you need a code for him?
11 UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: what I need is
12 departure and destination on (inaudible) attorney
13 general.
14 PHONE MALE SPEAKER 23: All right.
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