Band Mixing (Tool, Nin Etc) Vs EDM Mixing

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As and exercise for the past few days I have been analyzing the mixes of both bands that I live and electronic artists I listen to. One album I have always loved is Tools Aenima and one obvious difference I noticed is that there seems to be a much better sense of where the instruments are placed in that I can clearly picture in my mind that the vocals and high percussion would be right up close, with the guitars off of centre and a bit back, with the bass back and centre with the drums. At the same time though, each individual instrument does not sound very wide and has literally no artificial reverb. All instruments in this album sound organic, like real events occurring in real space and time. I can get a similar effect in my mixes when I actually narrow elements in my mix (synths, samples etc) with very little hall reverb but a bit of room reverb. I love this sound actually and it seems like I have so much more space. Nin's downward spiral is very similar even though it uses a ton of samples and electronic stuff. *Both these albums are from the mid 90's and do not possess the complete squashing of newer rock stuff or even those artists newer albums. When I compare this with EDM stuff like Mr Oizio, Sebastian, Flying lotus etc, the EDM sounds much more wide for sure! Even sometimes widening a bit of the low end which gives it that jelly feeling with good headphones you may have noticed and its obviously more compressed and louder, with the sacrifice to the dynamic range. As far as I can tell, in the two band albums I mentioned, nothing has been widened to this sort of artificial degree accept maybe for a few ambient sounds which consist of misty high frequencies (the outdoor ambience in tools pushit for example) My main question is; in your belief is it useful or possibly detrimental for me to take influence with regards to mixing from those tool and NIN albums given that my goal is to produce instrumental IDM? Could going for the more organic, real space feel result in my music being laughably quiet (and therefore be interpreted as bad) when played next to one of the modern EDM artists I mentioned with all their plastic sounding squashed, wide glory? I know theres some tool and reznor fans out there, however all opinions are welcome .
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well one thing I can say is that Tool does a huge amount of multitracking on most parts of their songs. If I recall, the drums get the least and are finished the fastest, I believe Danny does the drums for a record in 2-4 weeks. The guitars get the most, Adam sometimes takes up to 3 months to finish experimenting, layering tones together and getting a final unified tone that he's happy with. I'm pretty sure they always record everything to tape before any further processing. This surely has an effect on their sound. you might want to look into David Bottrill a bit, he produced lateralus and aenima. could give some insight to his processes etc. ------------------
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05-15-2012, 09:21 AM
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i have to say that the dynamics have a LOT to do with how clean you sound. there's a reason mid90's mixes sounds so damned clean and unintrusive, just take a listen to virtually any mainstream album that weren't techno (in fact, even the techno type shit has clean mixes heh) and compare it to a similar one today. you have to realise that when apply all that sortof overcompression that todays ME's likes to do on a regulat basis you are boosting things that shouldn't be boosted while you are limiting things that shouldn't be limited, resulting in a very odd spatial imagine
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in general. overcompression in general can make things sound wierd, and f said wierd has some stereo processing going on you'll be sure that this stereo processing is going to sound even wierder; it was designed to sit in the back subtly, not inyourface up front assaulting your ears. seriously, just try it. take a good week or so and listen and understand the mixes of most mid90's music, then compare it with todays music of the same genre. it will make you cry, surely.
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Originally Posted by gbsr i have to say that the dynamics have a LOT to do with how clean you sound. there's a reason mid90's mixes sounds so damned clean and unintrusive, just take a listen to virtually any mainstream album that weren't techno (in fact, even the techno type shit has clean mixes heh) and compare it to a similar one today. you have to realise that when apply all that sortof overcompression that todays ME's likes to do on a regulat basis you are boosting things that shouldn't be boosted while you are limiting things that shouldn't be limited, resulting in a very odd spatial imagine in general. overcompression in general can make things sound wierd, and f said wierd has some stereo processing going on you'll be sure that this stereo processing is going to sound even wierder; it was designed to sit in the back subtly, not inyourface up front assaulting your ears. seriously, just try it. take a good week or so and listen and understand the mixes of most mid90's music, then compare it with todays music of the same genre. it will make you cry, surely. Casualties of the loudness wars. ------------------
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Originally Posted by gbsr And if said wierd has some stereo processing going on you'll be sure that this stereo processing is going to sound even wierder; it was designed to sit in the back subtly, not inyourface up front assaulting your ears. Actually, if you overcompress stuff, the mix tends to close up. As the dynamic range of either left or mid channel decreases, the potential difference between left and right channels also decreases. Granted, if you're actually hardpanning stuff all the time, it doesn't matter. ------------------
05-15-2012, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Blingley Actually, if you overcompress stuff, the mix tends to close up. As the dynamic range of either left or mid channel decreases, the potential difference between left and right channels also decreases. Granted, if you're actually hardpanning stuff all the time, it doesn't matter. not if you boost the shit that's supposed to be sitting subtly in the mix. try it yourself by overcompressing the sidebands and see what it does to your sound. i'll give you a clue: H O R R O R. -----------------milehighscientist:
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05-15-2012, 02:41 PM #7 Re: band mixing (Tool, nin etc) vs EDM mixing Quote:
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Originally Posted by gbsr not if you boost the shit that's supposed to be sitting subtly in the mix. try it yourself by overcompressing the sidebands and see what it does to your sound. i'll give you a clue: H O R R O R. Oh, yeah, if you compress them individually.. Yeah, I can see that. Compressing buses you're sending them to (Assuming there's other stuff going there, too.) shouldn't be too bad, though. ------------------
05-15-2012, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Blingley Oh, yeah, if you compress them individually.. Yeah, I can see that. Compressing buses you're sending them to (Assuming there's other stuff going there, too.) shouldn't be too bad, though.
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05-15-2012, 04:25 PM
henryspencer
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Thanks for the input guys. So I guess the big question becomes; would emulate the clean 90's mixing style (which I have also noticed with electronic stuff from that time) be a good thing or bad for a new artist in this day and age? Can someone survive by being a non loudness war participant....??
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Think of the medium that's most important for that song and mix accordingly. You don't need to squash it for web streaming, because the listeners' hands are pretty much on the volume button. But if you expect people to listen to your stuff from phone speakers, then something closer to sidechained white noise might work better. -----------------Discipline EP released and there are public remix packs in this thread. Mimicry - Comfort:
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The mixes of both are very different, as are the mixes for country and reggae. The most important thing to remember that compressing your kick and sidechaining something, gating your this, reverbing your that, so on, so forth, are all part of the sound design in electronic music. Make sure you understand the boundary between sound design and mixing, as they use the exact same tools. The mix is to make sure everything gels with each other in all regards... Level, frequencies, panning placement, dynamic range, etc.
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Originally Posted by ghytwembpang I'm pretty sure they always record everything to tape before any further processing. This surely has an effect on their sound. It gives it a slight colouration, but the extent and hue really depends on the tape and record/read heads. It maintains the tape sound after the analog to digital conversion, too, which is the whole point. Experiment time! You can try this at home by having a VCR and a blank VHS tape on the output of your interface and dubbing every stem separately and bringing it back into your DAW. I'm not sure the extent/hue of the colouration to the sound for this one, as it is
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Originally Posted by ghytwembpang well one thing I can say is that Tool does a huge amount of multitracking on most parts of their songs. If I recall, the drums get the least and are finished the fastest, I believe Danny does the drums for a record in 2-4 weeks. The guitars get the most, Adam sometimes takes up to 3 months to finish experimenting, layering tones together and getting a final unified tone that he's happy with. I'm pretty sure they always record everything to tape before any further processing. This surely has an effect on their sound. you might want to look into David Bottrill a bit, he produced lateralus and aenima. could give some insight to his processes etc. Yea I was reading about him a bit, and Ive heard that about Adam. Would you say that you can hear a distinct difference between Aenima and Lateralus even in terms of mixing. Aenima just sounds so organic and "real" to me, where as Lateralus, which I love in terms of the songs, sounds more polished and kind of like the mixing of typical new music with that really compressed sound and stuff.... I think if I had a choice I would want my mixes to sound more like Aenima, how bout you?
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Originally Posted by henryspencer Yea I was reading about him a bit, and Ive heard that about Adam. Would you say that you can hear a distinct difference between Aenima and Lateralus even in terms of mixing. Aenima just sounds so organic and "real" to me, where as Lateralus, which I love in terms of the songs, sounds more polished and kind of like the mixing of typical new music with that really compressed sound and stuff.... I think if I had a choice I would want my mixes to sound more like Aenima, how bout you?
Opiate was incredibly raw, the band at their youngest and most angry, and their least eloquent and polished. They were pissed off, each member had their own issues in varying degrees of seriousness, and that absolutely came though in their earliest recordings and shows. Undertow was far more polished but still had that raw anger and aggression to it. Silvia Massey produced that one; it's a wonderful album but the band wasn't entirely pleased with the end result. It also saw the more introspective and spiritual side begin to peek out - they intentionally chose their most aggressive songs to use on Opiate as they felt this would be the best first impression on the industry they could make, at a time when heavy music was starting to make a real mainstream comeback after the hair-metal and disco focus of the past 1015~ years of music at that time. Evidently it turned out to be a sound judgement. Aenima saw the shift away from that aggression towards something more enlightened, less about being angry and more about letting that anger go, because it rarely serves any useful purpose(good art is about the only real, solid upshot of such an extreme emotion.) As you say it was still more raw, definitely a very different beast from Undertow due to their recruiting of Bottrill as their producer and the replacement of Paul D'Amour with Justin Chancellor at the very infancy of the albums formation. In case you're wondering and don't already know, the roster change was amicable; the band was simply getting more popular than Paul was comfortable with. On Lateralus they shift even more into the spiritual and therapeutic - the band has been together about 10 years, they have matured and securely found their stride with Justin, and they are more thoughtful about their subject matter and the presentation of said matter than they ever have been. They shift away from the grittier, more organic sound to a cleaner and more produced sound. They experimented more with multitracking on that album than ever before, in particular Maynard doing far more vocal overdubs and harmonies than he had felt comfortable doing previously. I never thought of it as more compressed but that is likely an effect of their more laborious crafting of the recordings - they are still a wonderfully dynamic band, and they still manage to capture much of the energy present at their live shows. 10,000 Days saw this trend continue, however without the contribution of Bottrill - like their split with Massey it was nothing personal, they simply felt that they had done the best work they were going to with him and that they could get a more accurate representation of their art by producing it themselves. They delved further into the exploration of personal growth and spirituality - and Maynard put forth one of his most powerful and openhearted performances/set of lyrics in the form of the title tracks, dealing with the issue of his mother's life, death, and how it affected him(and subsequently, due to peoples gross misinterpretations of what the song is about, he said that he would not be writing anything that was quite so close to his heart again) - while also being unafraid to put out tracks like The Pot and Rosetta Stoned which merged some very
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silly ideas and lyrics with serious issues. I am incredibly excited to finally find out what the band is working on now - they have been in writing on and off for about two years now, and with it being about 6 years since 10k Days they're due to be announcing something soon if they stick to their historical pace. It is disappointing in a sense to know that there almost certainly won't be anything quite as emotional and personal as the two title tracks from 10k Days, however I can understand perfectly Maynard's stated reason for this - to have something like that misinterpreted and misunderstood by so many people, especially for someone who is as intensely private as Maynard, can't be something that's easy to deal with or attempt to repeat. This is all a bit off topic though. to actually answer your question, I can't really say whether I'd prefer the mix of one album over another, either as a listener or to attempt to emulate myself. It really depends on the songs and what I hope to do with them. That said, if you feel the sound of Aenima is something you want to emulate with your own creations, absolutely strive for that - just don't lose sight of your own voice and vision while doing it. And yes, I have a lot to say about them. They've been one of the most influential artistic forces in my life and I feel certain that I have connected with the band in the best sense that a fan and an artists can hope to connect in without ever being in eachother's presence(i have not seen them live, and that sucks). ------------------
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05-18-2012, 10:56 PM #15 Re: band mixing (Tool, nin etc) vs EDM mixing Quote:
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Originally Posted by ghytwembpang Opiate was incredibly raw, the band at their youngest and most angry, and their least eloquent and polished. They were pissed off, each member had their own issues in varying degrees of seriousness, and that absolutely came though in their earliest recordings and shows. Undertow was far more polished but still had that raw anger and aggression to it. Silvia Massey produced that one; it's a wonderful album but the band wasn't entirely pleased with the end result. It also saw the more introspective and spiritual side begin to peek out - they intentionally chose their most aggressive songs to use on Opiate as they felt this would be the best first impression on the industry they could make, at a time when heavy music was starting to make a real mainstream comeback after the hair-metal and disco focus of the past 10-15~ years of music at that time. Evidently it turned out to be a sound judgement. Aenima saw the shift away from that aggression towards something more enlightened, less about being angry and more about letting that anger go, because it rarely serves any useful purpose(good art is about the only real, solid upshot of such an extreme emotion.) As you say it was still more raw, definitely a very different beast from Undertow due to their recruiting of Bottrill as their producer and the replacement of Paul D'Amour with Justin Chancellor at the very infancy of the albums formation. In case you're wondering and don't already know, the roster change was amicable; the band was simply getting more popular than Paul was comfortable with. On Lateralus they shift even more into the spiritual and therapeutic - the band has been together about 10 years, they have matured and securely found their stride with Justin, and they are more thoughtful about their subject matter and the presentation of said matter than they ever have been. They shift away from the grittier, more organic sound to a cleaner and more produced sound. They experimented more with multitracking on that album than ever before, in particular Maynard doing far more vocal overdubs and harmonies than he had felt comfortable doing previously. I never thought of it as more compressed but that is likely an effect of their more laborious crafting of the recordings - they are still a wonderfully dynamic band, and they still manage to capture much of the energy present at their live shows. 10,000 Days saw this trend continue, however without the contribution of Bottrill - like their split with Massey it was nothing personal, they simply felt that they had done the best work they were going to with him and that they could get a more accurate representation of their art by producing it themselves. They delved further into the exploration of personal growth and spirituality - and Maynard put forth one of his most powerful and openhearted performances/set of lyrics in the form of the title tracks, dealing with the issue of his mother's life, death, and how it affected him(and subsequently, due to peoples gross misinterpretations of what the song is about, he said that he would not be writing anything that was quite so close to his heart again) - while also being unafraid to put out tracks like The Pot and Rosetta Stoned which merged some very silly ideas and lyrics with serious issues. I am incredibly excited to finally find out what the band is working on now - they have been in writing on and off for about two years now, and with it being about 6 years since 10k Days they're due to be announcing something soon if
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they stick to their historical pace. It is disappointing in a sense to know that there almost certainly won't be anything quite as emotional and personal as the two title tracks from 10k Days, however I can understand perfectly Maynard's stated reason for this - to have something like that misinterpreted and misunderstood by so many people, especially for someone who is as intensely private as Maynard, can't be something that's easy to deal with or attempt to repeat. This is all a bit off topic though. to actually answer your question, I can't really say whether I'd prefer the mix of one album over another, either as a listener or to attempt to emulate myself. It really depends on the songs and what I hope to do with them. That said, if you feel the sound of Aenima is something you want to emulate with your own creations, absolutely strive for that - just don't lose sight of your own voice and vision while doing it. And yes, I have a lot to say about them. They've been one of the most influential artistic forces in my life and I feel certain that I have connected with the band in the best sense that a fan and an artists can hope to connect in without ever being in eachother's presence(i have not seen them live, and that sucks).
Thanks! Tool have also been huge for me, and I recognize allot of those details from stuff Ive read. Did you get that magazine that was dedicated to them (revolver I think)? It was good. I also look forward to what they are going to do next however, I sense that Maynard has moved on. The therapy effect of the music has done its job and it seems that he can move onto more of a normal life of enjoying his wine farm and joking around with puscifer. I also have to say having seen them live twice over the past two years (and seeing a perfect circle in 2000 and 2003), the years have taken their tool on his voice, badly. Its not the same and neither is his energy. I feel that the Aenima, Lateralus time was really the defining period for me, however they all seem to approach things as artists and if theres one thing for sure, maynard is just one piece of the pie so I am indeed looking forward to where they push it now. They are jamming in their same jam space now according to the toolarmy cite. So lets see what comes up! I hope Danny will bust out that collection of ancient synths he has, which they seemed to use a bit last concert... Thanks again. It was very interesting to hear about the multi tracking especially on lateralus. Man, would I have loved to be a fly on the wall during those sessions....
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mm, definitely a shame about Maynard's voice, but that's what you get when you push it for those really intense screams - he couldn't speak for 3 days after recording Ticks and Leeches, which is why they'll never play it live.' But like you said he seems to be in a good place now so it's only natural he wouldn't keep dredging up old painful subject matter for the sake of other people's entertainment. He's also stated that in the past(very prominently on Aenima and Lateralus) he was interested in sort of 'helping people along' so to speak, providing some form of spiritual or practical guidance for people, but moving forward he's not as interested in writing that sort of thing as most people just don't get it. so it makes a lot of sense that he'd be enjoying the much less serious topics explored with Puscifer, just silly music for the sake of having a good time.
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I did get that magazine, it was quite awesome. Still have it around somewhere I think. It'd be awesome to hear some of Danny synth collection get used, but I'm not sure if that's what you heard at that concert, most of that stuff is pretty fragile in it's old age - not the kinda stuff you want to take out on the road. I'm pretty sure Danny just runs Battery off his macbook for his electronic percs, and Adam runs an Access Virus controlled by that organ-bass-style foot controller on his pedalboard. fuck man, insight into their recording sessions would be awesome but what I'd love even more would be a chance to jam and hang out with some or all of them. Hell, just to get to visit the Loft would be so crazy math. ------------------
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Originally Posted by ghyt wembpang mm, definitely a shame about Maynard's voice, but that's what you get when you push it for those really intense screams - he couldn't speak for 3 days after recording Ticks and Leeches, which is why they'll never play it live.' But like you said he seems to be in a good place now so it's only natural he wouldn't keep dredging up old painful subject matter for the sake of other people's entertainment. He's also stated that in the past(very prominently on Aenima and Lateralus) he was interested in sort of 'helping people along' so to speak, providing some form of spiritual or practical guidance for people, but moving forward he's not as interested in writing that sort of thing as most people just don't get it. so it makes a lot of sense that he'd be enjoying the much less serious topics explored with Puscifer, just silly music for the sake of having a good time. I did get that magazine, it was quite awesome. Still have it around somewhere I think. It'd be awesome to hear some of Danny synth collection get used, but I'm not sure if that's what you heard at that concert, most of that stuff is pretty fragile in it's old age not the kinda stuff you want to take out on the road. I'm pretty sure Danny just runs Battery off his macbook for his electronic percs, and Adam runs an Access Virus controlled by that organ-bass-style foot controller on his pedalboard. fuck man, insight into their recording sessions would be
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awesome but what I'd love even more would be a chance to jam and hang out with some or all of them. Hell, just to get to visit the Loft would be so crazy math.
I saw ticks and leeches performed live a few months ago, so fuckin epic!!!! During the middle part there were bats on the screens on the sides of the stage. It was overcast and there was a tree with bats, couldnt understand why and then suddenly i realize "blood suckers". haha so epic. I saw puscifer twice, tool and a perfect circle all in this last year. So fuckin amazing I dont have words to express it but im sure you guys know. Lateralus was the craziest shit every live holy shittt!!!! haha im glad to see some TOOL fans in these here forums.
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Originally Posted by Auditus I saw ticks and leeches performed live a few months ago, so fuckin epic!!!! During the middle part there were bats on the screens on the sides of the stage. It was overcast and there was a tree with bats, couldnt understand why and then suddenly i realize "blood suckers". haha so epic. I saw puscifer twice, tool and a perfect circle all in this last year. So fuckin amazing I dont have words to express it but im sure you guys know. Lateralus was the craziest shit every live holy shittt!!!! haha im glad to see some TOOL fans in these here forums.
uhWHA? they played Ticks and Leeches live!? That is actually really surprising to me... did they do it differently at all, or the same way as the album version? It was my understanding that Maynard was a bit afraid/unwilling to do shit like that anymore due to strain/damage to his voice. But I'm glad to be wrong if that's the case, really. Either I was wrong entirely or Maynard's voice has healed up/he's been practicing his scream technique in the past few years. ------------------
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Originally Posted by ghyt wembpang mm, definitely a shame about Maynard's voice, but that's what you get when you push it for those really intense screams - he couldn't speak for 3 days after recording Ticks and Leeches, which is why they'll never play it live...
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Originally Posted by gbsr i have to say that the dynamics have a LOT to do with how clean you sound. there's a reason mid90's mixes sounds so damned clean and unintrusive, just take a listen to virtually any mainstream album that weren't techno (in fact, even the techno type shit has clean mixes heh) and compare it to a similar one today. you have to realise that when apply all that sortof overcompression that todays ME's likes to do on a regulat basis you are boosting things that shouldn't be boosted while you are limiting things that shouldn't be limited, resulting in a very odd spatial imagine in general. overcompression in general can make things sound wierd, and f said wierd has some stereo processing going on you'll be sure that this stereo processing is going to sound even wierder; it was designed to sit in the back subtly, not inyourface up front assaulting your ears. seriously, just try it. take a good week or so and listen and understand the mixes of most mid90's music, then compare it with todays music of the same genre. it will
make you cry, surely.
It already made me cry. Like ghyt said. Stupid loudness wars.
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band mixing (Tool, nin etc) vs EDM mixing

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Originally Posted by Stercogburn We are all ghyt's children.

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band mixing (Tool, nin etc) vs EDM mixing

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Originally Posted by Stercogburn

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We are all ghyt's children.

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i guess it depends on how hard you push it -----------------milehighscientist:

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band mixing (Tool, nin etc) vs EDM mixing

Originally Posted by Stercogburn We are all ghyt's children.

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Nice. That was a good read

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band mixing (Tool, nin etc) vs EDM mixing

Originally Posted by Stercogburn We are all ghyt's children.

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Originally Posted by Stercogburn We are all ghyt's children.

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They have actually played it live

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