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LT85 Santana gearbox information

History

  • 1984 through 1990

When Rover (still part of British Leyland) decided to go to a five speed gearbox they picked the existing LT77 for use in certain vehicles. The LT77 is an updated version of an old Jaguar gearbox that found its way into current model British cars manufactured by British Leyland. Yes the distance between the main and lay shafts is 77 mm. There were two version of this gearbox. The earlier version is known as the short stick version. The later version, introduced around 1988 is known as the long stick version.

The Range Rover received the LT77 in 1984 because it was less expensive than the new LT85 and considered strong enough for the 3.5L V8 to use as a street cruising gearbox. The four cylinder Ninety and One Ten also received the LT77. When the Discovery was introduced it got the LT77 as well.

  • 1984 through 1991

The LT85 (85 mm shaft spacing) was used in all V8 110 and 90 Land Rovers. The LT85 was originally

designed under contract by Land Rover for Santana in Spain and was considered to be a strong working gearbox. Rover purchased LT85 gearboxes directly from Santana. It is also known as the Spanish Box. This gearbox was used as originally designed until 1988. A cost reduced, lighter weight, divided case version of the LT85 was introduced in 1988 and used through 1991. The main short coming of the divided case version was its main and lay shaft bearings. The loading on the bearings in 5th gear caused frequent gearbox failure when cruising for long periods of time under high throttle. There was also a bearing quality problem at one stage of manufacture and the gearbox was sensitive to the type of oil used.

In 1991 the relationship between Rover and Santana ended and the LT85 was no longer available to Rover. They needed to find a quick short term solution while they developed a new stronger gearbox.

  • 1991 through 1993

The LT77S was introduced to the Defender V8 line and all models using the Tdi engine as an interim replacement for the no longer available LT85. The LT77S was a strengthened version of the LT77. The 'S'

on the LT77S stands for 'Synchromesh'

it

was modified for a 'smoother gear change'. The bell housings

... and input shafts of the LT77S differ between the V8 and Tdi due to Tdi's more aft location.

Source:

http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/gearboxes.htm

The LT85 gearbox was used from 1984 to 1991 on 90/110s with V8s and 1986 on for Isuzu diesels. All of these boxes use a separate transfer case called the LT230 which is mounted directly onto the output flange of the gearbox. This is normally referred to as the "Santana" gearbox as it was used on Santana Land Rovers.

Source:

http://members.shaw.ca/red90/gears.html#lt85

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Land Rover SIII 2.25 Turbo Diesel - http://lrs3turbo.4800bps.com/ Identifying your unit There are three types of

Identifying your unit

There are three types of 5 speed main box, LT77, R380 and LT85 (Santana). The following questions will help identify which type of box you have:

1) Is reverse underneath 5th gear? If yes, you have an R380. If no go to question 2.

2) Is reverse gear next to 1st gear? You either have an LT77 or LT85. Question 3 will identify which one.

3) Is the main casting black or aluminum? If black, you have an LT77.

If aluminum, you have a LT85, Santana box. There are 2 types of LT85. The sides of the aluminum housing will either be:

  • a) smooth, which will be a 20C, Solid Case

  • b) cross hatched, which will be a 22C, Split Case

Source:

http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?p=237461#237461

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=4

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This is an LT85 20C heavy duty 5-speed manual gearbox suitable for Defender V8.

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Land Rover SIII 2.25 Turbo Diesel - http://lrs3turbo.4800bps.com/ This is an LT85 5-speed manual gearbox suitable
Land Rover SIII 2.25 Turbo Diesel - http://lrs3turbo.4800bps.com/ This is an LT85 5-speed manual gearbox suitable

This is an LT85 5-speed manual gearbox suitable for early Defender V8. Split case type "Santana", a very strong gearbox similar to the LT95 V8 gearbox. Also fitted to Military variants, armored vehicles etc.

Source:

http://www.hobsonindustries.co.uk/acatalog/LT85_-_5_Speed_-_Manual_-_V8.html

Serial Number location

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Land Rover SIII 2.25 Turbo Diesel - http://lrs3turbo.4800bps.com/ Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNH-Ex8E-wQ&feature=player_embedded LT85 5 Speed Main Gearbox One

Source:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNH-Ex8E-wQ&feature=player_embedded

LT85 5 Speed Main Gearbox One Piece Case V8 Stamped on the right hand side of the front bearing plate. Prefix 20C

LT85 5 Speed Main Gearbox Split Case V8 Stamped on the top face of the gearbox behind the gear selector lever housing. Prefix 22C

Source:

http://shop4autoparts.net/technical.htm

Gear Ratio

Gear

Ratio

1st

3.6497

2nd

2.1804

3rd

1.4362

4th

1.00

5th

0.7951

Reverse

3.8242

Source:

http://members.shaw.ca/red90/gears.html#lt85

Videos

Video of a LT 85 being built

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB5tKkl6rvs&feature=player_embedded

Santana (What it comes with)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bC3BD08B8M&feature=player_embedded

Santana (Serial Number)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNH-Ex8E-wQ&feature=player_embedded

Source:

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=81

LT 85 light weight divided-case gearbox (22C)

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This unit replaces the earlier heavy duty LT 85 gearbox fitted to the basic V8 engined Land Rover 90 and 110 models. The heavy duty version is still being used for certain non-standard applications.

The new gearbox, which is interchangeable with the heavy duty version, can be recognized by the prefix 22C before the serial number.

The gearbox was first fitted from the following vehicle numbers:

Land Rover 90 V8 VIN SALLD VBV 7AA 299109 Gearbox number 22C 00070

Land Rover 110 V8 VIN SALLD HAV 8BA 298614 Gearbox number 22C 00061

The individual gears and shafts are not, however, interchangeable between the two gearboxes.

Gearbox data

Ratios: as heavy duty version. Lubrication: as heavy duty version. Torque figures: as heavy duty gearbox where applicable with the exception of the following: divided case retaining bolts M8- 7off (5 bolts and two bolts and nuts) 22- 28 Nm (16-21 Ibs.ft.)

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Land Rover SIII 2.25 Turbo Diesel - http://lrs3turbo.4800bps.com/ Source: Land Rover Workshop Bulletin No. SLR 621
Land Rover SIII 2.25 Turbo Diesel - http://lrs3turbo.4800bps.com/ Source: Land Rover Workshop Bulletin No. SLR 621

Source:

Land Rover Workshop Bulletin No. SLR 621 EN WB 3 - DECEMBER 1987

Land Rover SIII 2.25 Turbo Diesel - http://lrs3turbo.4800bps.com/ Source: Land Rover Workshop Bulletin No. SLR 621

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LT230 Transfer box

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Product Information

There are many different types of LT 230 transfer cases used across the Land Rover range.

The serial number will be stamped in one of 2 possible places:

either on the bottom left of the main casing

or (on the earlier vehicles) right at the bottom of the left hand side face of the main casing, obscured by the exhaust pipe. In this case you will need a knife (to scrape the muck off) and a mirror

You are looking for eg. "28D123456E". We are interested in the first two and the last, i.e. we call this a

"28E".

LT 230 Ratios

12D = 1.667 13D = 1.410 14D = 1.003 15D = 1.192 20D = 1.667 22D = 1.410 25D = 1.410 26D = 1.003 27D = 1.192 28D = 1.222

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Land Rover SIII 2.25 Turbo Diesel - http://lrs3turbo.4800bps.com/ 29D = 1.192 32D = 1.222 36D =

29D = 1.192 32D = 1.222 36D = 1.211 38D = 1.211 40D = 1.211 41D= 1.211 43D = 1.410 47D = 1.667 57D = 1.410 59D = 1.211 61D = 1.211 62D = 1.211 68D = 1.211 69D = 1.211 70D = 1.211

Source:

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=45

More info:

http://www.muddyoval.com/articles/generalinfo/LT230.htm

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