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ANNIE
E.
TRIMBLE
A. E. T.
Died
June 20th, 1911
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Walt Whitman
and
Mental Science
AN
INTERVIEW
By
Annie
E.
Trimble
Type
Distributed
PS 3242
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SCIENCE
AN INTERVIEW
"
And
" Walt
New
like,
Walt:
" Turn over the Leaves" he answered cheerily,
"it's
all
there.
"
New
Old
as the
hills,
and new
as
Not
and
And
it
in the
Leaves.
I've said
it,
and
" what
Interviewer
"
To
Walt
"
?
Walt:
" One's-self "
I sing,
Of
" Cheerful,
sing."
Interviewer
answered.
Good
Laws
for
SCIENCE
Human
action.
It's
We
big
hold on to them
catalogue,
all,
and more,
missed
out
" Walt.
but
you
Courage.
Walt:
M
for ever,"
answered Walt.
body and
" Lo,
"
above
/ntervien>er:
"
To
the
Mental
Scientist, there
is
Fear, the
fear,
the
force
which
stultifies
Battlte of Life.
fear of Death,
"Fear
may
bring;
Walt:
"
I will
show you
that there
is
no imperfection
in the present,
and
in the future;
And
And
will
show
anybody
it
may be
" turn'd
to beautiful results;
"
will
show
" Death."
Intervierer
"
You
Walt:
'
To
die
is
different
Walt
AN INTERVIEW
Has any one supposed
I
it
lucky to be
it
bom?
just as lucky to die,
is
and
" know
it
The
smallest sprout
if
shows there
it
is
really
no death,
And
And
ever there
was
led forward
life,
at
to arrest
it,
ceas'd the
moment
life
appear'd.
collapses.
know
am
deathless
....
Interviewer :
"
Some
"
is
conquerable by
say
yet
it
they die,"
ventured.
"
What do you
" about
"
?
Walt:
"
To
thither I
" door, turn the bed-clothes toward the foot of the bed, " Let the physician and " "
"
I
priest
go home.
raise
man and
neck;
him with
resistless will;
O despairer,
" me:
here
is
my
By God, you
shall not
"
M
dilate
bafflers of graves.
all night,
"Not
SCIENCE
"
to myself,
I tell
"
And when
"
It
is
you
rise in the
you
so."
magnificent, overwhelming,
was
in
and closed
the
door upon
just so
must
come
forth."
And
it
would
in
our
own
right
"
am
the Resurrection
and
the Life."
As
if in
answer
to
my
to
how
divine he himself
is
and how
interrupted here
Interviewer:
is
the
first
lesson in the
New
Thought
God God
is
is
"I am
"
the thought of
I
God,
Mind:
"In him
I
live
being.
free.
am
am
"
spiritual,
"
God
the everlasting
sin, sickness,
Good, and
am
and death.
God
Spirit,
am
I
Spirit.
am
and
One."
AN INTERVIEW
Walt
(smiling)
" Divine
am
I inside
and out;
I
"
And
I
touch or
am
touch'd from
"
am
do not decline
to
be the
voices, surging
and surging;
" Voices of the interminable generations of prisoners and slaves " Voices of the despairing, and of thieves, and dwarfs;
"Voices
M
down upon
Of
indecent, by me clarified and transfigured. " Down-hearted, doubters, dull and excluded,
" Voices
sullen,
atheistical,
know
know
"
And
asked.
Walt:
"
To
such
say,
are,
now
place
my hand upon
ear,
" my poem:
"
I I
whisper with
my
lips close to
your
"
but
"you:
" "
None
None
understand you;
" yourself;
10
SCIENCE
you;
I
None
only
am
he
who
will never
only
am
he
who
places over
better,
. .
God,
their
centre-
" From the head of the centre-figure spreading a nimbus of gold" coloured light;
" But
its
"nimbus
" There
is
of gold-coloured light.
in
...
but as good
is
no endowment
man
or
woman
is
in
you,
"No
"
in
you;
No
your
own
at
any hazard."
Interviewer:
"
It is
power of "suggestion,"
maidens of
"
said;
and
told
him of two
little
my
ac-
" quaintance,
"
rise
six
respectively,
who
from
their
the
mornings,
"
"
straight
and strong
their little
who
" assert
unison,
'
am
wholly whole.'
'
Walt laughed
"
and
.
said.
To
" The
"
The
air tastes
good
to
my
AN INTERVIEW
"The
from bed and
feeling of health;
sun.
is
my
soul,
and
clear
and sweet
is
all that is
" not my
soul.
is
" Lack one lacks both, and the unseen " " "
I I
know
know
I I
am
solid
and sound.
am
august.
is
I exist
as I
am, that
enough.
"
"
We
Interviewer:
" Folks
who
didn't understand
to consider
you
" a
bit egotistic,
Walt,"
cautiously interjected.
Walt
"
I
(fiercely)
" claim'd
"
for others
will
By God!
As
if it
rights as
rights
" myself:
to
my own
offset as
lost
I
my own you
your own,
else
it
" were
"In
"
all
people
less.
And
12
SCIENCE
Interviewer :
"
To
How
" blue
and the
Mental
Scientists assert
Walt:
" The
real or fancied indifference of
love
my
or lack of
money
or depressions,
The
...
nights
the
fitful events.
me days and
and go from me
again,
am;
unitary;
idle,
erect
curious
what
will
come next."
/niervien>er;
" Ah,
see, Jealousy,
"
"
actualities
And what
"
Walt:
soul.
is
not
more than
is
the body,
"
And And
nothing, not
God,
is
AN INTERVIEW
13
Interviewer:
**
You
speak often of
?
" you
does the name signify to " Nature, First Cause, Force, the Unknowable ?
God;
what
Walt:
44
I
44
say to mankind,
I,
Be
God;
not curious about
For
who am
am
God;
44
No
I
how much
am
at
peace about
God
not
"
God
understand
God
"
44
in the least;
In the faces of
see
God, and
in
my own
face
.
"
I
in the glass."
had stayed
Walt, but
to
was
loth to leave.
me
asked
?
What
Walt
You
once spoke of
to him, the
" Hegel as
Your
great authority.'
its
According
infinite variety
and
and
eternal purpose: so
transient,
Walt:
" Roaming
.
in
saw
the
little
that
is
good
"
And
44
call'd evil
saw hastening
to
merge
and become
lost
and dead."
14
SCIENCE
Intervie&cr:
"
in the
direct allusion
"
to the
first
principle of
Mental Science,
the principle of
"Unity, of Oneness; or to the idea of Harmony, that " thought upon which Mental Scientists so often concentrate. " You do not once use the word " Oneness "; and " Unity "
" you use but once, and then in relation to the individual, " and not in relation to the Whole. You speak of
" The vehement struggle so fierce for unity in one's self " " not Metaphysical, Walt, I said reprovingly."
that's
Walt laughed:
" Have
"
" I
The
The
"
base of
Metaphysics
is
dear love of
to friend,
man
for his
" Of " Of
the well-married
city for city,
husband and wife, of children and parents, " and land for land ?
Intervieier
"
Is that
Unity or Harmony
?'
questioned.
Walt:
It's life's music anyhow and have I not spoken of " The joy of concord and harmony ? "
;
"
Interviewer:
"
'
Harmony
'
in
the metaphysical
AN INTERVIEW
Walt:
"
15
Why,
it is
"
!
It
it's
runs
the
" through every line and vein of them " very Tree of Life itself
!
it's
more
had roused
I
all ?
"
He
mind once
....
that
and knowledge
"
I I
know know
that the
hand of
God God
is is
my own; my own;
and
the
men
my
brothers,
" women my
sisters
and
lovers;
is
And
That
Love."
"
can't be bettered,"
thought,
and
reluctantly
made my
adieux.
As
"
turned,
me
" Remember
morning-glory at
my window
satisfies
me more
than
all the
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