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Is there any method or formula apart from ampacity for finding current carrying capacity of conductor having 630

sqmm cross sectional area and 1 km length..???


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BillUnfollow Follow Bill Bill Swingle, P.E. I am confused by your question. Ampacity is "current carrying capacity". Length doesn't effect ampacity. Not directly at least. Cross sectional area is used sort of directly for bus bars. The rule of thumb is approximately 1000 amps per square inch of copper. But for cables it's not so literal due to the varrying heat dissipation available at the instalation. This can vary widely. 4 days ago Unlike Like

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BojanUnfollow Follow Bojan Bojan Moevi You can calculate current which flows through conductor by using this expression: I=U/Z=(U1-U2)/(sqrt(sqr(R)+sqr(X)) U=U1-U2 Z=sqrt(sqr(R)+sqr(X)) R=r*l=*l/S X=x*l=L* =2**f where are: I-current which flows through conductor [A] U-voltage drop between begin and end of conductor [V] Z-impedance of conductor [] U1, U2-voltages at begin and end of conductor, respectively [V] R-resistance of conductor [] X-reactance of conductor [] r-longitudinal resistance of conductor [/m] x-longitudinal reactance of conductor [/m] -specific resistance of conductor (different values for copper and aluminum) [*m] l-length of conductor [m] S-cross section of conductor [m^2] L-inductivity of conductor [H] -angular frequency of power system [1/s] f-frequency of power system [Hz] P.S. You didn't write enough input data, so in depends of them you calculate current. 4 days ago Unlike Like

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Enrique Gallegos you can check the Neher and Mcgrath method regards 4 days ago Unlike Like

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JimUnfollow Follow Jim Jim Phipps, P.E. The current carrying capacity of any conductor is dependent on a temperature limit and thus can only be determined by solving heat flow equations. For overhead conductors, the maximum temperature limit is often controlled by the maximum sag of the conductor and maintaining adequate clearance from the ground-line to the maximum sag point. For underground conductors and conductors in conduit, the temperature limit is always established by the maximum temperature the conductor insulation system is rated for. Thus, cable ampacity is determined by solving the heat-flow equations based on defined temperature limits. 4 days ago Unlike Like

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SANUUnfollow Follow SANU SANU PAL Mr. Bill...I know that ampacity is independent of length.The wire resistance which is dependent on length and area (R=p*l/A). The ampacity of a long wire should be chosen far above the expected current to avoid a big voltage (IR) drop and power loss. But I just wanted to

Know the exact formula for finding ampacity if I have the supplied voltage around 400 KV and cross sectional area is 630 sqmm and max. Temperature at 65 degree Celsius 4 days ago Unlike Like

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SANUUnfollow Follow SANU SANU PAL @Mr Bojan... You doesn't include any temperature parameters in your formula. you just give a simple formula for finding current but if I don't know about impedence parameters and i have only supplied voltage and cross sectional area and no connected load then how could I find out the ampacity. 4 days ago Unlike Like

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SANUUnfollow Follow SANU SANU PAL Mr Enrique.. thanks for the suggestion. 4 days ago Unlike Like

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SANUUnfollow Follow SANU SANU PAL Mr Jim.. I am totally agree with you that this ampacity factor directly dependent on temperatur limit . Here I am giving some heat flow equation can you tell me is it correct equation for finding ampacity..

The current carrying capacity rating is computed by using the following formula under steady state condition of wind velocity, temperature, solar radiation and electric current. Qc + Qr = I2 R + Qs WhereI2 R = Heat generated in the conductor due to flow of current ' I ' in Amperes, R is the resistance of the conductor per meter. Qs= Solar Heat Gain in Watts per meter of Conductor. Qc = Convection heat loss in Watts per meter of Conductor Qr = Radiated Heat Loss in Watts per meter of Conductor. From the above equation, current carrying capacity I can be determined asI = Qc + Qr - Qs / R Ampere The effect of Heat Gain due to Magnetic Heat and Corona Heating and Heat Loss due to Evaporation is usually negligible, hence not considered. 4 days ago Unlike Like

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BojanUnfollow Follow Bojan Bojan Moevi Hi, Sanu, in appropriate tables for selecting high voltage conductors in my electrical engineering book, I

found only this kind of conductor in according to your requirements, so I'll describe to you it: rated cross section of conductor (aluminum/steel) [mm^2] - 680/85 outside diameter of conductor [mm] - 36,0 ratio of cross sections (aluminum/steel) - 8,0 longitudinal mass [kg/m] - 2,57 permanently allowed load for outside mounting [A] - 1150 temperature of ambient [C] - 40 allowed rise of temperature [C] - 40 frequency [Hz] - 40-60 4 days ago Unlike Like

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JimUnfollow Follow Jim Jim Phipps, P.E. Sanu, The equation you have shown would apply for the steady-state heat balance of a bare overhead conductor. For most overhead conductor applications using ACSR and AAC conductors, your temperature limit would be set at 100 deg. C. For high temperature rated conductors such as ACSS, a temperature limit of up to 200 deg C can be used in the design provided that all conductor attachment hardware and fittings are also rated for the higher temperature limit (i.e., don't use 100 deg C components on a 200 deg C application). 4 days ago Unlike Like

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EnriqueUnfollow Follow Enrique Enrique Gallegos Sanu....for overhead lines you can find a method in IEEE 738 Std for calculating the current-temperature relationship of bare overhead conductors. Regards 3 days ago Unlike Like

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SANUUnfollow Follow SANU SANU PAL Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. 3 days ago Unlike Like

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BillUnfollow Follow Bill Bill Swingle, P.E. The head of the engineering department when I was in college was an interesting man. (eccentric with 'einstein hair') He said something humorous once. He said "you have to take thermo because I had to take thermo". I quickly agreed. I like electricity but not thermodynamics. Mr. Pal your question boils down to a thermo question. An almost unsolvable question. Industry has decided the multitude of variables make the cost of solving the equation unreasonable. It's Fun when in college but not cost

effective. Thus, the industry utilized direct testing to determine the answers needed for compiling standardized tables. These tables are how electrical folks answer questions that are basically thermo in nature. When electrical people use those tables to answer a specific electrical situation which is thermo in nature it is engineering. Combining multiple engineering disiplines is exciting. 2 days ago Unlike Like

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SANUUnfollow Follow SANU SANU PAL Very true Mr. Bill. This are very complex issues and I am still searching for proper answer. I asked so many peoples about this but none of them gave me the proper answer. We are still dependent on standard tables fixed by Industries 2 days ago Unlike Like

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EricUnfollow Follow Eric Eric Delgado Use the manufacture tables for wire size,ampcities and distances. 2 days ago Unlike Like

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