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Mony men ore iust one skill owoy from hoving the kind of interoctions with women thot they wont. Jocob wos on exomple of this. Thirty-four yeors old,
successfi.rl
friends-
seemed to be oble trc get women, but somehow he couldn't. He could tolk
Jocob thought he wqs miles ond miles owoy from his gool of being successful with women; in focf, he wosn'l. He hod iust obout every skill he
needed to succeed with women ond o lot more, but he didn't know how
to tolk to women so they felt he wos "romontic moteriol." Thot wos the
one skill he wos missing. Once we tought him the bosic Flirting Moves
ond the skills of tolking to women, his level of success with them rose
dromoiicolly.
wondered
if
thought thot there's something obout you thot you couldn't see but thot women could which drove them owoy. Or, like Jocob, you moy feor thot you hove some bosic flow *rot continuolly
sets
wilh women.
The good news is thot nothing could be further from the hulh. Sure,
plcnty of men with more problems thon you succeed with women. The
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good news is lhere's no bosic flow inside of you thot keeps you from
hoving the relotionship you desire. lf you con communicote ot oll, you con creote romontic connections skillowoy.
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being oble to redirect their ottenlion toword you. Mosl men foil ot this
When you're one skill owoy from being o good seducer,you're like o cor
becouse
with one flot tire. A cor with one flot tire drives os though it hos something seriously wrong with it. lt's impossible to control, the ride is rough, ond chonces ore you'll never gel where you wont to go in it. Driving it,
tion; don't worry, we'll cover thot, too. You'll olso leorn qbout opportunities ond the surprising lruth thot not toking opportunilies with women
con noturolly leod to toking them, if you do it our woy. You'll leorn obout curiosity ond how you con top inlo your noturol curiosity with o womqn
to eosily creote slress-free conversotions in which you both experience o
Once you reolize thot the problem is o flot tire, though, you see thot iust becouse the problem wos noticeoble didn't necessorily meon thot it wos
flot-o
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tronsform the entire cor ond con gel where you wont
to sicrt building your skills in tolking to women. You'll olso leorn woys
to go eosily.
increose your sense of vitolity ond excitement with women, including simple woys to moke the sound of your voice something
fiol
women
When Jocob leorned thot the flot tire in his doting system wos his inobility to tolk
trc
enioy heoring.
obout him, he wos oble to correcl the problem ond his interoctions with women improved instontly. He hod the missing piece ond wos qble to
seduce women.
olso understond the "inner gome" of tolking to women, or you won't be oble to get yourself to toke oction with them. ln Chopter 3, you'll leorn
how
Your problems, loo, moy not be os big os you thought.
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A simple
set of
new skills moy moke oll the difference. lf you've ever leorned ony skill then you con leorn how to tolk to women; you've simply never been tought how before. l/s like leorning ony new procedure. Once you mos-
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women by leorning once ond for oll how to overcome the feor of being
bosics, the rest seems eosy. This book will teoch you whot you
need to know
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ln Chopter 5, you'll leorn how lo leveroge the hidden seduciive power of the simple queslion "Whofs the story behind thot?" You'll olso leorn
the three time-fromes of on interoction with o womon so you'll olwoys
whol she's possionote obout. Deepening ollows q womon to open up to you right owoy in o woy she moy nol open up to mony people in her
life. You'll leorn how to use Deepening to odmire o womon's possions,
know how much you need to risk with o womon ol ony given momenl.
which mony other people moy never see, lhus creoting o deep connection between you. You'll reod numerous octuol tronscripts of us hoving
ln Chopter 6, you'll leorn obout the Romontic Moves thot ore o criticol port of tolking seduclively wilh women. You'll leorn obout looking inio o womon's eyes "too long," checking out her body so she feels complimented, winking
ln Chopters
womon, ond you'll leorn why o womon lends to put o mon who mokes
these moves into the potentiol lover cotegory
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ln Choptrer 12, you'll leorn obout toking tolking further: moving from o
ioking oround with women. They ore oble to kid with women obout dif-
brenl ospects of he situotions thot they find themselves in or obout obiects in the immedioie environment. This is Situotionol Fli*ing. ln Choflrer 7, you'll leorn the specific sleps of ioking oround with women ond wcys of
creoting romonlic, flirutious running iokes. You'll see specific exomples of Situotionol Flirting ond leorn how tc do it yourself with the women you
encounler.
kiss.
box for tolking lo women in romonlic, flirtotious ond fun woys. These
skills ore specific ond they ore leqrnqble. With procfice, you will be oble
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ln Chopters 8 ond 9, you'll leorn how to use the incredibly powerful
romonlic conversotion tool colled Deepening. Deepening is o converso-
tionol mode thot ollows you to get into o womqn's world ond find out
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There ore two types of communicotors. You must figure out which type
often think thot the woy trc seduce o womon is trc turn up the
of communicotor you ore, becouse eoch type must proctice ond use the
skills in this book differently.
solty ond chilling out. Don't try so hord. ln short, the exlroverted communicotor doesn'l need to worry obout turning himself up; he needs to
ore inlroverled communicotors. These ore men who cotegorize themselves os shy. They hove
As you reod this book, keep in mind which type of communicotor you
men often
ore. This will influence your decisions obout how oggressively you
this moteriol.
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hove no clue qbout whot to soy lo women ond need lo slort very slowly, toking one smoll slep ot o lime ond building from there.
The primoqy chollenge for the introverled communicotor is leorning to express himself. He needs
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ing romontic interest ond toking risks. ln short, he doesn't need to worry obout toning himself down; he needs to worry obout turning himself up.
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lf you ore like most of our sfudenls, tolking to women seems complicoted, confusing ond difficult. Yes, there will be chollenges os you leorn to tolk to women, but if you're willing to slort ot the beginning ond do the
fie
best woy to
the first few steps, ond to go directly lo "lhe good stuff." Building o firm
foundotion in the first few simple steps of tolking to women will help dromoiicolly once you stort opplying those steps to the more complex skills we will present loter in this book.
A bod seducer-let's coll him Bob-hos trouble becouse he hosn't mqstered the bosics. lf you ore like Bob, you wont to ovoid soying hi to women, ond you only wont to osk the one fool-proof (ond mythicol)
seduction question thot
you in 30 seconds or less. lf you ore like Bob, you expect to overcome
25 yeors of shyness ond foilure with women ofter reoding five poges of
this book.
We wish we could teoch you thot one question thot would get ony
womon to foll in love wifh you ond hove sex with you in 30 seconds or
less. We wish we could help you overcome feor ond shyness oher reod-
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ing five poges of this book*butwe con'i. We con, however, teoch you
The some goes for "Just go tolk to her." We've oll been given this lome
trc
women. We
odvice, but most of us hove no clue whot fo tolk to o womqn obout. The
con teoch you questions, opprooches ond conversotionol modes thot will help you be seducilve-but you must be willing to stort ot the beginning.
o$er doy, o shockingly beoutiful young womon we know wos wondering oloud to us why our books, oudio courses ond other moteriol ore
necessory ot oll.
Once ogoin: lf you wont fic become good ot tolking ic women*thot is, if
you wont to leorn how the beginning.
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be yourself," she told us. "lt olwoys works for me!" As she soid this, her
full breosts rose ond fellwith eoch breoth ond her beoutiful blonde hoir
swoyed os she moved her heod.
process is onswering the question "How do you get thot initiol conloct
with him, we're olwoys omozed*hol women opprooch him ond give
him their phone numbers. He olso likes to tell us his "secrel": "Just be
yourself qnd tolk
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strucling ond conducling romonlic, seductive conversotions. Get reody-this plone's obout to toke off.
Obviously, both these people moke most of us wont to vomit with roge.
You don't hove to work hord ot leorning how to tolk to the opposile sex
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the world will beot o poth to your door. For the rest of us, lhere ore spe-
cific skills to leorn, which ore much more effective thon "Just be yourselP'
her!" This kind of odvice is worse thon useless becouse it offers nothing
specific to do yet leoves you feeling bod obout yourself for not following
it. Sure, being yourself is o good thing, but how should you do thot with
women? More specificolly, which port of yourself should you be? We oll
Our work hos olwoys been obout breoking complex sociql interoctions
infic teochoble steps so lhose who employ our methods con succeed. Our ctudents hove discovered
weor mony hots in our lives. When you opprooch o womon, should you
be the self you ore ot work? The self you ore ot church? The self you ore ot o strip club? We oll need lo cultivote the romontic ports of ourselvesthe ports thot ore noturolly fun ond seducfive, but iusl soying you should
when they've leorned lo use this moteriol. We'll stort smoll, so thot no mqller how shy you hove been, no motler how shut down you've been,
no motter how mony problems you've hod with women, you will be oble
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it took for us to lronsform our skills ond our obilities. We remember how
When we soy thot you should be selFexpressed, this olso meons thot you must find your own woy with the moteriol in this book. None of our
books or oudio courses ore designed to be o set of rules lo box you in.
We oll hove different opprooches with this moleriol-even we, Ron Louis
ond Dovid Copelond, hove very different opprooches from one onother. We ogree on the fundomentols bui we opprooch them differently.
triol ond error. At first we constontly foiled. We were eoch os uncomfortoble ond owkword when tolking to women os ony guy we've ever
met. We foiled more often thon you've foiled, ond we mode fools out of
ing lives. We mention this not to tool our own horns but to give you
hope. No motler where you ore in your life, no motler how little experience you hove with women, there is hope. You con leorn to seduce
women. You con leorn how to tolk to women. And you con hove the success you wonl.
bund thot men ore most upset, frustroted ond ploin ol' nuts when they
oren't self-expressed. Not getting loid doesn't drive guys nuts; o guy con
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go months without getting loid. Whot drives men nuts is nol interocting
wiih women, not tolking lo women, hiding oul ol home ond not being in
lhc gome. Whot drives men nuls is hoving the desire to moke conlocl wilh women ond not doing onything obout it.
women.
meon
thot he's on individuolwho follows his own poth. He feels confideni mok-
ing decisions obout where he wonts to toke his life. He embroces fie
woys in which he is similor to os well os ihe woys in which he is differenl from others. He is oble to be himself without being overly concerned
Avoiding the risks of life drives men crozy-not foiling or being reiect-
womon, women will find you ottroclive. Whot foils every time, however,
obod how women will respond-ond he's not tqying to control or fix
women. He is outhentic ond honest. He doesn'l squelch himself, suppress
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Your first tosk on the poth to becoming o seducer is lo underslond ond occepl thot you, the mon, ore going to hove to interrupt women in order to get their ottention ond stort o conversolion.
ln o certoin sense/ you ore interrupting women on o deeper ond deeper level with every stoge of o seduclion. You inlerrupt her when you first soy hi to her. You inlerrupt her on increosingly deeper levels when you tolk for the first lime, when you osk for her number ond emoil oddress, when you hove Romontic Conversotions, when you osk her for ond conduct the first dote, when you go for the first kiss ond so on. You ore
Le/s exomine the word "intrerruption." h's o horsh word. Most of us osso-
you. You ore going to hove to toke some oclion-though os you will see it doesn't hove to be o big oction-to get her ottention. There's forcefulness oboul the
will osk us, '!Vhy should I risk reiection? lsn'l this the
oge of equolity? Why don't women initiote with me, ond interrupt me?"
to do this.
enough. They comploin thoi men oren't more sensilive ond bemoon how
oll thot "mole privilege" ond "mole power" hove mode men shut down
emotionolly. Well, you know the truth os well os we do. Men's egos oren'l o mess becouse men ore so oll-powerful or becouse men live lives
flow. Hot women ore not likely to come up to you ond soy, "Hey, yov
look like on interesting guy. lwould love to hove o conversolion with you
ond then seduce you." Therefore, if you ore going to interoct with
women, your first tosk is to get their ottention. And you get their otten-
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Here's the bottom line: women don'l opprooch you becouse doting is not
leorn o little obout o few core concepls: the numbers gome, opporlunilies not token, ond giving ond receiving risks.
foir. Thot's why. They don't wonl to throw their egos in the sewer, ond
they don't hove io becouse they're women. They ore ollowed to demond
equolity os much os they wont ond still leove oll the risking of initiotion
to you (ot leost in the eorly ports of doting).
We suggest thot you occepl thot this is the woy it is qnd thot insteod of being upset obout it, you reolize thot this octuolly gives you o certoin
kind of power. lf you hove to do oll the interrupting ond initioting, you gei to soy when you will opprooch o womon. You get to soy when you
you won't. The greot thing is thot if you hove enough interocfions, your
success is oll but qssured.
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will osk her ouf you get to soy when you will fli* with her. Once you
stort seeing thot hoving to do oll the initioting ond hoving to toke oll the
risks gives you the power to go ofter whot you wonl, lhe fqct fhot women
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lfs like the insuronce solesmon who knows thot he needs to moke 75
don't hove to initiote with men will not bother you so much.
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cold colls to get one oppointment ond thot it trckes four oppointments to
get one sole. Therefore, he knows thqt he needs to moke 300 cold colls,
Okoy, our little men's rights speech is over. We ogree thot you hove
every right to be mod obout this stote of offoirs-but stoying mod doesn't work. lt won't get you the girl. The good news is thqt when you know
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give or toke, lo get one sole. He knows ifs o numbers gome ond thot oll he hos to do is to continue moking those colls. Eventuolly the numbers
willwork in his fovor ond he'll mqke o sole. With women, it might toke
how
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toke the proper risks with women, one step ot o time, you don't
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to go ofter the women you wont with o lot more freedom thon most
women feel they hove lo go ofter the men they desire.
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going ficword your eventuol success. Every time on interruption or initiotion with o womon doesn't work, remind yourself thot
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keep going no
thot be okoy, in time you simply find yourself storting to toke those opportunities thot life presents to you. Howeve4 if you beot yourself up for not
trcking opportunities, this sequence is disrupted. Beoting yourself up for not
toking opporlunities iust mokes it horder to see ond trcke them in the future.
People who troin group focilitotors know thot this is true. At first, students
moy hwe no ideo ot oll obout how to leod o certoin type of process in
o group; they simply wotch in owe qs other people leod. ln time, they
stort to understond how to leod but they don't quite know the process well enough to step oul ond octuolly leod; they wotch from the sidelines,
opportunity becouse they ore scored or upset or becouse they simply don't know whot to soy. This leods to missed opportunities ond plenty of
good old-foshioned self-criticism. "l wos such on idiot not to tolk to her,"
hese guys will soy tc themselves. 'Whot o moron I om. I con't believe how stupid I wos not to tolk to her. lt wos o perfe'ct opportunity. She wos so hot.
full of good ideos obout how they would leod o process but not quite reody to toke chorge themselves. lf they ollow this to hoppen without
beoting up on themselves, in time they simply nolice thot they ore stepping out ond leoding*ond nothing speciol needs to hoppen for thot to
occur. lf they beot lhemselves up, however, they stoll the entire leorning process ond moke it horder to toke oction when the time comes.
l'll probobly never gel on opportunity like thot ogoin, ond I blew itl"
There ore lots of times in life when beoting up on yourself to get your-
Once you breok the link between seeing on opportunity ond feeling bod
obout not toking it, you cqn breok the hold thot this cycle hos over you.
works. Unbrtunotely, this is not one of those times. When you don't toke on opportunity with o womon ond then punish yourself for not toking it,
you lusl ottoch o lot of poin to the whole ideo of toking opportunities to tolk to women. This mokes you less likely to tolk to o womon the next
time on opporfunify comes up/ nol more.
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we did. To us, the stock morkels ore iust one big mess; we con't
see
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opportunities in them. Becouse of his yeors of experience wotching the morkel, this guy wos oble to slow things down. He told us thot he did
this by not beoting himself up when he missed opportunities. This is whot
con't risk with women will look for psychologicol tools thot con force o
womon to be ottrocted to him. He'll buy pig-pheromone colognes, hop-
0rurils
ing the scent will owoken o womon's inner vixen. He'll ploy "subliminol seduclion" oudiotopes for her, hoping it will somehow creote chemistqy
between them.
ln this book we ore going to teoch you effuctive trcols thot con help you
deep, romontic ond seductive conversotions with women. But lc wield these
tools effectMely you musl underslrcnd the noture of risking with women.
boozle o womon into toking her ponts off. He does oll this in on ottempt
ic eliminote oll risk with o womon ond to estoblish in its ploce complete
conhol over qll of his interoctions with her.
Doing ony of the things we tolk obout in this book will require toking
some risk. Most men ore exlremely overse to risking with women; they There ore severol problems with this. First, eliminoting
live their lives trying to ovoid it. Mony men who oren'l successful with women ore committed to eliminqting risk with women; tho/s their unsuccessful strotegy for.success.
womon ond estoblishing complete control over your interoctions with her
doesn't work. ln foct, il's the opposite of whot works with women. Think
obout how you feel when you're wilh someone who's committed to complebly controlling your interoction with him ond the outcome of thot inter-
Men ore obsessed with not risking with women moinly for two reosons.
Firsl, they don't wont to be hurt by o risk gone wrong. lt totolly sucks to
oction: you con't get owoy fost enough. Well, thof's exoctly how women
toke some big risk with o \ /omon only to be shot down in one of the olmost infinite number of woys women hove of shooting down men.
Second, men-especiolly shy
oction ond forcing o cerloin outcome. (solesmen ore sometimes like this.)
becouse they ore ofroid thot they will somehow hurt the womon they risk
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how toking something from her, but the iruth is this: when you toke on
oppropriofie risk with o womon you ore giving something to her. Your
risk with her creotes o spoce for her fo toke o risk bock with you, which
'foke self,' fien I might os well go to o proslitule." lf you wont onything deep or spontoneous with women, eliminoting qll risk ond controlling everything is not the woy to get it.
builds trust, sofety ond ottroclion with you. lf you don't ioke o risk with
her there's no spoce for her to risk with you, qnd she con't hove o relo-
if'-to
with women oll of the time. We used to know o guy whose life's philosophy wos "Go for lhe roor." This meont thot every time he sow something scoqy or risky, he hod to do it-becouse if he didn't, os he put it,
he "wosn'f reolly living his life." We think this is ridiculous, ond the trou-
Think of it this woy: often o guy will woit oround for o womon to risk
with him before he risks with her. He wonts her to soy hi, he wonts her
trc osk
him out, he wonts her to go for the first kiss. But why should o
ble it creoted in his life bocks us up on thot. Just becouse you con toke
womon do something you oren't willing to do? Remember, most of the lime q womon is looking to you to set the poce ond feel for your inter-
oction. lf you toke q smoll risk with her, she will see on opening to do
lhe some wiih you. lf you toke no risks ot oll, try to keep conlrol of every-
in your inleroctions with women is probobly o bod ideo trco. Letting go of guiding or directing conversqlion in ony woy will oll too often gel you onother femole "triend," ond we've qll hod quite enough of thot.
thing ond work lo force o certoin outcome with her, she will do the some with
you-ond itwon't
ond defensive, ond her gool will be to get owoy from you.
Ar o generol rule, women will only risk os much os you do, if thot much.
When you toke on oppropriole risk with o womon, it octuolly provides on opening for her to be self-expressed ond hove fun with you. This
is
in o
whot we meon when we soy thot you must provide risks for women. Whcn you toke on oppropriote risk with o womon, you give her the opportunity trc risk bock with you. Thot's providing
both sofety ond excitement to women when you toke intelligent ond oppropriote risks with lhem one step ol o lime. Tho/s whot creotes both
chemistry ond trust.
When the two of you toke o smoll risk together-for instonce, you moy provide o risk by winking qt her ond she moy risk smiling
lf you risk too much loo fosl, you ore trying to live in the house before it is built, ond trouble will come if ony problems occur. At the some time, if you don't risk ot oll, you never even build o foundotion for o relotion-
bock-o
little
trust is built between you. You con then build on thot trusl to provide o slightly lorger risk. For instonce, you moy provide o risk by osking her
ship, much less the four wolls ond roof. The level of risk you should toke
is reloted to how much of this house you hove built. lf you hove o lot of trust built up from toking mony risks together you con proceed lo some
'Whofs the story behind lhot?" obout her neckloce, ond she moy toke o risk by telling you obout how she got it on o trip to Centrol Americo.
When thot risk hos gone well, there is even more trust between you. You con then provide the next lorger risk ond she con risk bock. ln lime, o
sense of trust ond sofety develops.
bigger risks. lf you don't hove o lol of trust built up you need to toke
smoller risks.
lfs importont to underscore thot trust is built over lime ond thot chemistry
Simultoneously, this process creotes
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sense
of
excitement ond
ond ottroction ore not the some os trust. A mon who doesn't hove much
chemistry between you. The two of you ore constontly in the process of
hcility or experience with risk will trust o womon woy too fost. He'll trusl
hcr utterly ond completely with his entire heort the moment he experionces ony chemistry with her. Thofs
being "on the edge" with eoch other, constontly reveoling o little more
of yourselves with every risk, olwoys trusting ond risking o little more
eoch time. Thot process is where excitement ond chemistry come from.
Wc hod one student who wos doting o women whom he wos cerloin
wq3 "fhe one" ofter only one dote. He wos hoving tremendous success
process you con leorn how to monoge without being conlrolling, trying
wih
her os he meosured it: she seemed to like him, it wos very exciting
ond delightful to be with her ond they were hoving omozing sex togeth-
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Building o relotionship with o womon is o lot like building o house in which
doyr, totolly risking himself emotionolly. After oll, whot could possibly go
Yvrpng in such o whirlwind romonce?
your intimocy ond connection con live. You build thot house one brick ol o
time. Every lime you fiake o risk ond she trckes one bock ond it works, you put onolher brick in the wolls of the house. After o while you've built four wolls of trust thot con contnin the relotionship you hwe with her.
Wrll, plenty could go wrong ond plenty did go v/rong. After o couple of
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On the up side, most women ore incredibly ottrocted to o mon who con
sey,
to leorn to reolly
trust eoch olher so we con truly open up ond be intimqte. I wont to toke
things slowly ond build o connection \ /e con trust." Soying this sort of When you meet o hot womon with whom you hove greof chemislry, yovr
tendency might be to toke big emotionol risks with her os quickly os you con. Thot is o big mistoke. h's insone to risk your entire heort right owoy. Toke smoll risks one ot o time ond build
thing tends to moke o womon feel reolly sofe wifi you ond desire you
oll the more. After oll, you oren't just trying to get os much sex out of
her os you con, like oll those other guys. She likes this; therefore, she wonls lo hove sex with you. A mon slowing things down ond risking with
her one step ot o time con be on incredible ophrodisioc to o womon.
much too quickly you'll hove your heort sploftered oll over the povement,
ond you'll hove short, possionole offoirs thot end with you being heortbroken qnd olone. Slowing down o romontic relotionship with o womon you ore oftrocted
to might suck, bul il doesn'l suck os much os I ) hoving o short offoir thot Thot hoppens when you iump in too deep too fost, ond you do thot when
you misfoke chemistqy for truslworthiness. Just becouse you hove chemistry with o womon doesn't meon she won't floke out on you. lt doesn't meon she won't hove emotionol problems thot will couse her to leove. lt
doesn'l meon you con counl on her. But when you hove greot chemistry
with o womon, you're oll too likely to think thot it meons you con count on her, ond you'll end up risking too much with
her.
enough risks qnd they do not provide enough risks for women, so
The solution is trc go
women hove loo few opportunities to toke risks bock. How do you pro-
her your heort fully. ln other words, you must risk slowly, over time, in
the woy we will show you. lf you ore going trc foll in love with o womon
vide risks lo o womon? You provide risks by toking risks. Thofs imporlonl, so lefs soy it ogoin: You provide risks by toking risks.
you ore reolly ottrocted lo, you need to toke risks one slep ol o lime to find out if you con lrust her. You need to know if she's o psycho who's
going
trc
It helps t'c think of risk os o currency thot you exchonge with o womon.
You put up o penny ond she puts up o penny. You put up o dollor, she puts up o dollor. You put up tren dollors, she puts up len dollors. You're
go nuls ond toke off on you, breoking your heort. You con only
find this out by risking the proper omount ot the proper tempo.
o<chonging these quontities. The exchonge con gel bigger os you leorn
from eoch other thot it will be o foir exchonge, on exchonge you con
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put up o hundred dollors. But if she puts up o penny bock, you know
you con tqke the risk to put up o nickel. lf she gives you o nickel bock, you con then put up o dime.
osking o question we'll teoch you, 'lVho/s the story behind rhot?" The Goodbye lntroduclion, which you'll leorn,
is
Flirting, Deepening ond osking Romontic Questions. These risks oll proLet's give some specific exomples now of the kinds
vide her with the opportunity to risk more by shoring more obout herself with you. So she storts to risk liking you, which meons she could get hurt.
These risks ore whot generote the excilement in
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risks.
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o relotionship.
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lo toke intelligent
leorn how fo do thqt by toking smoll risks ond moving up to lorger ones
os they gei better ot it. As o resuh, they get better returns thon do people who never invest their money, who never firke ony risks with it ond
ing her life with you, even if only for o little while. She slorts to risk thot you might chonge her life in woys she did not plon on.
evoluote how it went before toking the next one. lf o smoll risk did not pon oul, don't go on to toke o bigger risk. lnsteod, you might wonl to
Penny Risks.
womon-
toke o smoller risk ond see if thot works. This is oll o motter of risking
step by step.
her-os penny
risks. Soying
lfs importont for you to reolize the risks you provide when deoling with
women. Eoch risk offers o spoce for mogic to hoppen between the two
tunity to risk bock with you by being responsive in some woy. lf she does respond with o risk of her own, you ore in business ond con move on lo the dollor risks.
of you, ond it's o gift thot you os o mon provide. You're not perpetroF ing evil or hurting someone else; you're providing thot excitement thot
women need so much.
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Another "problem" with curiosity is thot when you stort osking questions
you slop being in conhol of the interocfion. When you osk o womon
o risk you
questions obout herself, suddenly you're nol in control of whot she might
will hove lo toke with women. By knowing thot ond by being oble to tqke
those risks one step ot o lime, you will hove the power to creole excite-
soy. As we've soid, most guys come to us wonting They're looking for
o line or rouline.
Of course, some of
will keep them in control ond get her romonticolly interested. But when
you loke the risk of not knowing whot is going to hoppen, ond surrender to the choos of interoctions ond conversotions with women, you're
more likely to connect with them ond more likely to come ocross os fun
those risks won't work out, but we'll teoch you how to hondle reiection
As you use the tools in this book, your monlro should not be "control, con-
ond ottroclive.
hol, conhol." Thot will only get you intrr trouble. Your monlro should be "risk, risk, risk." lntelligent risks, token step by step. By using these tools to risk being romontic rother thon to conhol the interoction, you will be
oble to mqnqge the orderly unfolding of o relotionship. lt moy be shortterm, il moy be long term. lt moy be deeply intimote, it moy be purely sexuol. But there will be o reol connection-ond you won't hove to sell
yourself out to get it. You con stort the process of letting out your curiosity by osking \ /omen questions ond simultoneously letting go of ony oufcome. Let go of trying to get into her ponls ond getting her number (for o second) ond iust see
if it feels different. We're not soying thot trying to get info her ponts is o
bod thing ot
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into her ponts os your sole oulcome ifs very difflcult to moinloin o conversotion ond therefore hord to get into her ponls.
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ty long enough, it tokes time to gel it bock.
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o womon, but
if you've got to stoy in control ond reslroin your own curiosity ond never
osk o queslion you don't olreody know the onswer tc you'll never be suc-
osm: you've goi lo use it or lose it. Once you've repressed your curiosi-
cessful. Most men lusl give up becouse not knowing where on interoc-
Mony of us were tought os children not lo osk questions, to ovoid being loo curious. We qll know the expression "curiosity killed the cot." Asking
questions ond being curious were often soid to couse trouble.
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lf being curious is difficult for you right now, don't worry. After you stort experimenting with being curious it will become o lot eosier.
conversotion with
course/ you shouldn't insult women either. lf you osk o womon "How did
you get your hoir so ugly?" or "How did you get so slupid?," you oren'l
fl0ut
When you first meet o womon it usuolly mokes sense lo slort with o simple question.
We're now going tc explore how to osk women questions. This is not
rocket science. So mony men feel like they need trc know the right things to soy to o womon. The truth is thot you don't need speciolized esoteric queslions; you iust need to know how to be curious ond osk questions.
Le/s look ot the different kinds of questions you con osk. There qre ini-
tiol questions, the first questions you osk someone. Then there ore follow-up queslions, which follow up on the response to your first question.
Pretty simple so for, right? You got it. The bosic sequence is you osk o
o womon o question the other doy. Here's how he described it: 'lVe
were qt o concert ond I soid to her, 'The floor sure is sticky."'Well, tho/s not
lt
s olmost like
hoving o reol live conversotion where you ore opening your mouth ond
respond. You need to osk questions thot evoke o response from her, not
tolking! One question leods to onother ond before you know it women ore reveoling themselves to you. They ore risking themselves to you ond
you ore risking with them by osking questions ond reveqling yourself.
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mony guys mess it up. You need to osk her something thot will engoge
l/s greot to compliment women, but most of our students find it intimidoF
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things we qll wonder obout when we tolk to women. Don't even tqy to
suppress fiose thoughls. We're iust soying thot none of those questions
will fly. Just remember thot you risk foce slops, explosive forms of violence, sexless nights ond trouble if you moke overtly sexuol comments.
oboul your fovorite color, osk her whol her fovorite color is. Rother thon roving obout the greot new CD you iust brought, osk her whot sort of
music she likes. Rqther thon tolking obout your fovorite seoson, osk her
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before osking o bllow-up question. When you use those phroses, trcke o
When you're interocting wiih o womon ond osking questions you ore
not ollowed to osk "Do you come here often?" You ore olso prohibited
Put
from osking obout the weolher. Those two questions ore so clichgd thot you will come ocross os o totol boneheod. The lost thing you ore forbidden from osking is'nVhofs your sign?" These oll sound too much like
lines ond come ocross os boring ond stupid. The good news is thot there
questions until she flips out. Tho/s onother woy trc hove her feel like she's locked in on inlerrogoiion room with you. lf you osk one question ot o time ond go ol o slow, reloxed poce, lhe conversotion will foel nofurol ond eosy
trc susficin.
ore countless good, simple questions. Once you get your curiosity circuitry going, you won'l hove o problem osking them.
When some guys ore excited they feel pumped up. While being ener-
mm
gized is o good thing, sometimes guys in this stote tend to osk too mony
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questions too quickly ond nol ollow women enough time to respond. Just remember to slow down, give her time to respond, odd
You might find yourself wondering, "Gee, ore lhose breost implonts? How do they stond up so well?" Thofs obviously not o question you're
o few oppre-
going to wont to osk. We probobly don'l hove to tell you this, but we
wonled to double- ond quodruple-check.
We're not suggesting thot you ovoid thinking obout sex or ovoid wondering obout q womon's breqsts or whot she's like in bed. Those ore
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women ore nol the slightest bit receptive lo ony'hing we soy. lfs importont therefore to remember thot when o womon is meon to you or unre-
ifs not your foult she wos unfriendly, ond you did nothing
RON: l'm o big Jockson Pollock fon. I like his huge obstroct
pointings.
your self-esteem to hohg oround women who treot you like crop. Next time o womon is meon to you, remind yourself thol there ore other
women out there who'd be hoppy to tolk to you ond would oppreciote
RON: I love seeing fhe movies of him sploshing huge cons of point
onto convoses. l'm olso interested in how he lived his life.
RON: Yes, l've been lo severol exhibits of his work in New York.
A yes-or-no question iust doesn't cut it. For inslonce, "Do you like the bond?" is o problem. A woy to toke thot 'lVhot do you like obout
the bond?" or "How to do you like the bond?" Stort poying otlention fic
the questions you osk women. Moke sure you ovoid putting them in o form thot will hqve lhem onswer yes or no.
tion ond then, rother thon onswering their question, the womon
responds by tolking obout o wholly different topic. Remember, when you osk o womon o question ond she responds with ony commenl ot oll, it's
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SITUATION: You're ot o concert, listening to the music ond stonding
nexi to on ottroctive womon. Whot do you do? Here's the sequence we
recommend you stort employing when tolking lo women:
point is thol you wont lo be engoging with her, ond it reolly doesn'l motter whot you tolk qbout. The foct thot you ore octuolly hoving on inter-
oction with her is good news. Hoving her open her mouth ond tolk to
First, breothe deep into your body. Mony men breofi shollowly, ond
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bolls." When we soy this, we meon toke o deep breoth, ond imogine
thot feeling going oll the woy down to the core of your body, oll the woy
For us, curiosity ofien shows up os o smoll flicker in our minds thof we must
down into your bolls. lt moy sound silly, but ifs been our observotion thot
poy close ottention trc. lf you don't poy ottention when you feel curious obout something, your infieresl fodes. At this strrge of the gome you're
retroining yourself ond creoting new hqbits
trc let
Second, osk yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
occessing your curiosity might bel owhvord ond clumsy, but itwill gel eos-
need to be
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Here's o choin of curiosity questions thot you could use ot the concerl:
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unusuol topics to explore. ln the following exomples you'll see how we've loken incredibly mundone situotions ond creoted simple questions
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"So, whot do you think of the bond?" When she onswers, "They're greol," run through the sequence ogoin:
to osk women. After reoding through these exomples ond doing some
experimentolion on your own, this will be o lot eosier for you.
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Listen to lhe onswer.
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"Hove you seen this bond before?" She might onswer, "No, I hoven't
seen them before." So you then repeot lhe sequence:
ond you're stonding nexl to o womon. You wont to tqlk you do?
her. Whot do
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious qbout in her response.
Listen to the onswer.
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
Lislen lo lhe onswer.
For exomple,
yourself on the line ond show off, tolking to women becomes o lot eqsier. Whqfls importonl is for you to osk questions thot moke her impressed
with herself-qnd when you focus on osking questions thot moke her
impressed with herself, your life will be much eosier.
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You might soy, "Nepol, how interesting. Do you like to trovel?" or "Nepol, thofs reolly on interesling ploce. Whot were you doing there?"
From there you moy find yourself creoting o conversotion with her!
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purse. So whot do you do? Go through lhe sequence:
SITUATION: You ore in o bookstore next lo o womon reoding o book. Go through the sequence:
o o o .
Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious qbout with lhis womqn.
Lislen to the onswer.
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Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
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"l see you hqve one of those new cell phones, how do you like it?" She
responds, "ll's greol, it gets much better signol thon the other one I hod."
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Toke o second ond listen to lhe onswer.
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Toke
Ask your follow-up question. You might respond, "So, whot do you like obout the book?" or "ls thol
outhor good? Hove you reod o$er books by thot outhor?" or 'lVhol
hove you been reoding lotely?" or "ls there onything you con recommend to me?" Those ore the kinds of questions thqt stort o conversotion.
did you find there were ports of town where it didn't work?"
These ore not very personol queslions, but you con see how these con
leod to deeper conversotions. You con olso see how simple ond nolurol
they ore.
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here, whot wos ihe best doy working here?" or 'lVhofs the coolest thing
SITUATION: You ore in o coffee shop ond you ore ordering coffee from
the hot womon behind the counter.
Or you might hove osked, "Do you drink o lot of coffee while working
here? I bet there's o lot of lemptotion."
Stort by running through the sequence: She might hove onswered, "l con't drink coffee onymore, ond I used to
o . . o
Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
Toke o second qnd listen to lhe onswer.
love it."
For exomple, 'Xou must see oll sorfs of stuff working here. Whot's the most unusuol thing you've seen while working here?"
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot jiou could be curious obout in her response.
Tqke o second ond listen trc the onswer.
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One thing to notice here is ihol once ogoin fiese ore simple questions.
Also, notice thot when you osk them you're not shoring o lot obout your-
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Toke o second ond listen to lhe onswer.
self. You don't need to try to be impressive yourself. She doesn't core
thot you dronk 25 cups of cofhe one doy ond how cool you ore for being o speed freok. She's interested in herself. Remember to focus on
dronk thot much coffee?" or "lI thot wos your weirdest doy working
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wolks up ond prepores to use the some mochine you were on. So whql do you do? Run through the sequence:
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stonding next lo you who looks like the type of womon you'd like to be tolking to. You notice thd there is o lot of unusuol ort on the woll. So
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.
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Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.
Perhops you soy something simple like '!Vhot's your fovorite mochine here?" She responds,
You might sey, "Hi,whot do you think obout oll this ort?" She might respond, "h/s not my style, but I guess i/s okoy."
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Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Tqke o second ond listen to ihe onswer.
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is it qbout the bicep curl thot you like?" You might respond,
A simple question like thot could stort o conversotion. The more we proctice hoving simple, eosy interoclions with women, the more powerfr.rl we see thot they con be. Just simple curiosity*not tqying to impress ony-
one-con leod to getting o womon's phone number, o dote, o conneclion, ropporl ond more.
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SITUATION: You're ot o liquor store looking for tequilo. An otiroctive womon working there qsks if she con help you. You run through the
Process:
Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with this womon.
Toke o second ond listen to the qnswer.
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout with lhis womon.
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You might soy, "l'm looking for some good tequilo. Whot kind do you like?" She might respond by telling you the brond she likes. You con then
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Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.
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You might respond, "So whot is the best steok you ever hod?" or
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which would be o perfect next question. You could olso osk, 'Which
ploce serves the best tequilo or morgoritos in town?" This could build into o deeper conversolion.
the best reslouront you've ever been Io?" or 'lVhofs your fworile
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best movie you've seen recently?" She'll probobly onswer the question
ond mention o newly releosed movie, so you run through the process
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end of the conversotion, the mon lurned to Abroms ond soid, 'You ore
the most interesting guy l've ever mel." Abroms commenled fiot the
ironic port wos thot he (Abroms) did not soy onything obout himself; he
iust kept osking questions.
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Breothe into your bolls. Ask yourself whot you could be curious obout in her response.
Toke o second ond listen to the onswer.
We mention this story lo show how people will bond with you ond feel
comfortoble with you when you give them the gift of osking questions. When you provide women on opportunity
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'lVhot did you like obout thol movie?" or "ls thot the kind
they will not only feel bonded to you but they will olso feel oppreciotive
lhot someone listrened to them. They moy not consciously reolize thot you
only listened lo them ond only osked questions without shoring much
obout yourself. Still, os in Abroms's story they will be conscious of feeling closer to you.
more questions. Over time, these sorts of conversolions con gel much more intimote ond personol.
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We osk o lot of women if they've ever been on o dote with o guy who
iust tolked obout himself, never shutting up or osking her onything. They
oll soy yes. They mention thol i/s rore for o mon to be o good listener. As porf of your curiosity skills, toke the time to listen to how women
onswer your queslions.
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Here ore some opening lines we know women don't like, jusi for your
omusemenl:
"Hey se4y, how would you like to ioin me in doing some moth?
Le/s odd you ond me, subhoct our clothes, divide your legs ond
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"Congrotulolionsl You've been voted most beoutiful girl in this room. The grond prize is o night with me!" "Hey boby, is your dod o boker? Couse you sure hove greol bunsl"
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Lefs be obsolutely crystol cleor: we ore nol suggesting you use these
lines. We include them to drow your ottention to the bosic problem with
be weird to tolk if you hodn't soid hi. Therefore, soying hi is your first
step toword seduction ond sex.
opening lines: no motter how cute, sexy or obnoxious your opening line is, ofter you've used it, you ore still foce to foce with o womon. When
For inslonce, hove you ever been in o sifuotion where, if you'd only soid hi to o womon right owoy, it would hove been oppropriote to tolk to her
you use some opening line, she either loughs, snorts or throws o drink
in your foce. Then you still hqve to come up with something to soy next.
loier on? Perhops it hoppened while you were woiting in line. You got in
line ond you noticed o very pretty girl in front of you, but you didn't soy
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hi to her when you first sow her os you got into the line. You were in your own world or you were
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The University of Chicogo did o study of opening lines (your tox dollors
interrupt her or you used whotever your stondord excuse is for not inlerrupting ond initioting with women. You stood in line next to this beoutiful womon for o little while ond you reolized thot you wonted to tolk to
ot work!) ond found thot "Hi" is the mosl effective opening line with o womon. "Hi" is followed in effectiveness by "Do you like the bond?" (But only if there's o bond ploying-try to keep thot in mind.)
her-perhops you even thought of something the two of you could converse
The bottom line is ihere is no opening line thot con keep you from hov-
weird to stort iolking to her ofbr ignoring her for so long. lf only you
hod soid hi when you first got into line you would hove hod some precedent of ocknowledging eoch other's existence, ond it would hove been
much eosier to trolk more loler.
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lost opportunities ore the result of not setting o precedent of being o guy
ond write it on o piece of poper or on index cord. Corry thot cord with you ond keep trock of how mony women you octuolly soy hi to os you
lf you ore going to leorn to tolk to women ond implement whot you leorn
This moy seem silly, but it's importont. lf you don't hove on ideo of how
qnd become good ot it, you hove to be oble to toke scory octions ond boil them down into steps thot ore so smoll thot they ore noi scory ony
more or ore iust scolf enough thot you con still do them. The Hi Progrom
is o greot woy to do thot.
mqny women you soid hi to, il,s very eosy to get stopped ond stoy
stopped. lf you keep trock, you con look ot your index cord ond soy,
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women yesterdoy ond two todoy." Then you con look through this section
ogoin, figure out whot your problem is ond correct it. lf you don,t keep
The Hi Progrom is reolly simple: you decide how mony womon you ore
trock,
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going to soy hi to eoch doy ond you do it. Suppose you decide to soy hi to I0 women o doy. Loter on, while you're wolking down the streel,
you see
On the olher hond, keeping trock olso helps you feel good obout whot you've occomplished. Especiolly if you've been o shy guy, looking ot your cord ond seeing you soid hi to 32 women todoy con feel pretty good. worfh doing.
When you follow the Hi Progrom, you become the kind of guy who iust noturolly finds himself soying hi io women, so when you're in thot line
lt's
you hove olreody sqid hi to thot cute girl in front of you ond you con
eosily move on lo some other conversotionol sequence.
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soy hi. Whofs not importont ot this luncture is whether women heor you. So open your mouth ond soy hi whether you think she con heor you or
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even weoring heodphones. lt doesn't mqfier. Just soy hi.
eoch doy ond keep trqck of how you do. Mony of our sludents
soy they will soy hi to I 0 or 20 women o doy for five or six doys o week. Decide how mony women you will soy hi to for how mony doys o week
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not following the progrom. Open your mouth ond soy hi. lt doesn't mot-
lo celebrote obout the progress you ore moking in interrupting ond initioting wilh women. You might wonl to keep o iournol obout it, perhops
see
fhot I reolly om breoking out of my shell, ond tho/s greof." Or you con
3. Soy hi to ony womqn you see. Tho/s right, ony womon. She con be old, fot, disobled-it doesn't motter. Remember, this is obout
building your initiotion muscle so you con interrupl women ond redirect their ottention, no motter how briefly, toword you. At this point, it cqn be
get your body involved: moke some little motion, like shoking your fist powerfully while soying, 'Yes! I soid hil"
We're omozed by the extenl to which the men we work with resist feeling good obout the smoll steps ond smoll octions they toke wilh women,
bul il's importont thot you do so. Most men hove o hord time celebrot-
{- C"l.btote thqt you did it. Often we tolk with o guy who would only let himself feel good obout himself if he monoged to convince o
trciclly unottoinoble, uninterested supermodel whom he met on the sfeet
ing ony occomplishment thot isn't on ordeol. Thot won't work with
women. Women like to be oround men who feel good obout themselves, so it mokes sense to reword yourself ond feel good obout toking this first slep in tolking to women: soying hi to them.
to sleep with him in 15 minutes or less. Then ond only then would he
ollow himself to hel good obout whot he occomplished with women.
You musl do this. So mony of our students will soy things like
'lVell,
We,ve soid it before ond we'll soy it ogoin: thot kind of ottitude is o mistqke. lf you ore leorning to tolk to ond seduce women, you must ollow
yourself to feel good ond to celebrqte eoch step in the process of getting
wos wolking down the street ond I soid hi to 20 women in five minutes ond it wos eos, so therefore it doesn't count." Or they soy, 'Yeoh, I soid hi to t 0 women, but they were oll old or ugly, so it doesn't count." They discredit their work before they even see the positive effucts of it.
loid. Beoting yoursell up ond feeling bqd will not help becouse o guy who is reolly down on himself is inherently unollroclive to women. So reword yourself; proise yourself for soying hi. h will help stort you on
your woy to becoming o moster ot tolking to women.
Mony men who hove o hord time trrlking lo women ore often cought in
this trop: i/s either got trc be troo hord, ond thus they con't do it, or i/s too
lf you try lo proctice the Hi Progrom but put down your effort ond success iust becouse you oren't getting loid yet, you
themselves to foel good obout whot they did. Don't moke this mistoke.
own process. Let yourself feel good obout toking oction. Tell yourself
hi to women they don't know. They stort to soy hi ond they choke up.
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you'll never soy hi becouse the perfect momenl never comes. you hqve lo
moke thot moment hoppen by interrupting her flow ond creoting it.
lf you hove trouble soying hi to women, proclice soying hi out loud olone
in the comfort ond privocy of your own home or cor. Just soy hi over ond
Mosl conloclwith women is not going to hoppen unless you moke it hoppen. You need your interruption muscle to be strong so you con creote
over in o cleor, powerful voice. This will get your body used to soying hi ond moke it eosy ond noturol to do. Soon you'll be oble to do it without thinking obout if, which is whot you need when you get foce lo fqce
thot contoct. This is criticol. Remember, you olone ore responsible for
interrupting women ond initioting contoct wifh them. you hove to do it.
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with me, so I couldn't soy hi to ony of them." Our experience hos shown us thot men ore very inventive in screwing
up the Hi Progrom. Here ore mosl populor trops guys foll into. Leorn
Listen: if you ore going through life woiting for women to moke eye
contoct with you before you soy hi, you ore woiling for women lo initi-
ole with you before you will interoct with them. You ore trying to ovoid
interrupting \ /omen, qnd how well hos thot been working in your life? Not very well. The terrible truth: you must soy hi to women even if they oren't looking ot you. Women ore rorely going to moke eye contocl with
disquolifying every womon os o condidote for o hi. Usuolly it works like this: o guy refuses to soy hi lo most women becouse they ore not hot enough. He then refuses to soy hi to lhe resl becouse they ore so hot thot
he's intimidoted. The solution is lo remember this: your iob is to soy hi
you before you soy hi. They ore going to ovoid contoct becouse thot
whol women ore progrommed to do. Soy hi onywoy.
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responses when you soy hi. Some will be worm, some not. One of the ben-
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l/s worth risking this kind of response becouse hi con orso work for you. we hove hod mony more experiences where iust soying hi hos initiored
wonderful, seductive conversotions with women. you iust need to remember thot everybody who proctices the Hi progrom occosionoily
gets o weird response, ond so willyou.
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She storted in shock ond turned toword me, horrified. She looked
om nol thot scory-looking o guy. But this is port of being the kind
of guy who soys hi, who goes for whot he wonts without shome or
opology. Some women ore reolly in their own world of feor ond
upset. lt hos nothing to do with you, ond lhere's obsolutely nothing
being unwilling to toke risks. Mony men worrr obout whqt other peopre will think ond oren'r wilting to risk rhqr peopte mighrhink poorly
of rhem becouse they soy hi to women.
you con do obout it. lf I hodn't stortled her, something else would
hove. So I did whot you hove to do in those situotions: I reminded myself thot doting is o numbers gome, thot this kind of response hoppens occosionolly ond thot it wos obout her, nol me. Then
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For instonce, you moy feel like you ore risking fiot eveqyone wiil see whot you ore doing, everyone will know you ore trying to be o seducer ond everyone will point ot you ond rough or throw rocks ot you or whoF ever' However, if yov ore going to initiote with women ond get them into bed, you're going to hove to toke these risks-ond more like them.
RON: Here's onolher exomple of the weird kind of response you might
get when you soy hi. The oiher doy, I wos wolking in o neorby
woods ond I soid hi to o womon who wos olso wolking there. Her
response? She turned ond ron owoy from
For now, simply know this: interrupfing women feers risky becouse it is risky. By following our odvice, you'il leorn how to toke smorr risks wifi
women ond groduolly move into bigger risks over time. The smoll risk of soying hi is the perfect ploce to stort.
We ore here lc lell you thot i/s time tn stcp worqying obout women's responses, ven if they ore like the ones dehiled obove. ll's fime lrc get post this ideo
0. Deciding the Hi progrom is so simple thor you don,t need lo do it. A lot of our students soy, ,lVell, soying hi to women
is
thot you ore going lrc shofier o womon's enlire personolity iust by soying hi. Some women, becouse of their own problems, lheir own histoqy ond their
reolly eosy so it con't reolly be effective. r meon, r courd do thot right now." We olwoys respond, ',ekoy, greot. lf ifs so eosy, soy
hi ro
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ovrn lives, will get o little spooked when you soy hi. lt doesn'l motter. lf you hodn't spooked her, something else would hove. Tho/s her, not you.
women wvrr."r ..l o ctqy doy rar for tne the nexf next week." week.,, lnevitobly Inevitobry lhey rhey come come bock bock the next week ond tell us, 'Wow, it wos o lot scorier ond more chollenging
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Men who hove hod bod experiences with women usuolly develop hobits
thot moke it horder to connect wilh women. For inslonce, they never
develop the hobit of expressing their virolity ond their physicol energy.
Toking such mossive oction hod positive results. He got his interruption
ln foct, they ore often unoble to proiect ony form of excitemenl or "up vibe" oboul onything. These men hove repressed the ports of themselves
thot disploy vitolity when interocting wiih others.
ond gove himself o bios for oclion with women thot over time got him
sex with o number of women ond eventuolly o girlfriend'
We're going tc discuss two types of vitolity: physicolvitolity ond vocol excitement. We'll show you how trr hqve more physicol vitolity ond vocol orcite-
menl in your lifu. Both will help you become more powerfulwith women.
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Women ore looking for someone who hos vitolity, possion ond energy.
Put onother woy, do you come ocross os o guy who gets loid or os o guy
tolking obout odding hond ond body movements for emphosis onry. you shouldn't wove your orms oround looking insone.
To get
One woy to hove more vitolity is to oct with more urgency oround
women. Mony men treot life like o reheorsol. There's no energy or commilmenl behind whol $ey do. They oct like they con woit oround brever before toking oction. As o result, they oppeor to be wishy-woshy ond they hove o flot offect. These men olso tend to come ocross os boring
tolking obout, wqtch lote-nighr-w tolk-show hosts ond comedions. TV performers ore good speokers becouse they're subtle ond groceful ond
use their body in o very noturolwoy. These people ore skilled or odding
body movements lo emphosize the humor in their monologues. studying these performers should give you on ideo how to integrote your body
into your own speoking style.
ond predictoble. lf you foll into this cotegory don'l worry. We'll teoch
you methods of bringing more vitolity to your life. lt's o skill thot you cqn
moster if you work on developing il over time.
ing yourself to moke eye conroct with women. when you enter o room, do you sweep rhe room moking brief eye confoct wirh women or do you look ot the floor ond tqy to hide? Most shy men ovoid eye contocr no
motter whot.
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moking eye contrrcr with women os well os men. rfs importont thot you leorn to be seen by people ond feel comforroble being looked or.
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women. Did you hove o sense of urgency when tolking with them or
were you flot ond wishy-woshy? Our hope is thot this book will inspire
you opprooch o womon, ir's cruciol thot you feel comfortoble looking ot her ond moking eye con'cct when you speok. Otherwise, you,ll
come ocross os wishy-woshy ond uninterested.
you to stort toking more risks with women ond feel more confident lo toke on life ot
doing before. Here qre five things thot will help you do iust thot.
You might find moking eye contoct scory. lf so, you,re not olone. Mony men find eye contoct intimidoting. We recommend thor you proctice
this
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body os you speok, you'll come ocross os more possionole ond powerful. Don't go loo for, though, by pretending to hove on epileptic fil; we're
where there ore women. over fime you'll feel more comfortoble.
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five minutes eoch owoy is to put on o donceoble song ond spend ol leort oround lo the music' Mony men who ore doy doncing ond
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When you're vocolly excited, you speok with o voriety of vocol lones;
you don't iust tolk in o monotone ond soy the some thing over ond over.
lf there oren't mony speed chonges or volume chonges in your speoking
style, you come ocross os deod. When you opprooch o womon ond ore
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to get excited intimidoted by women don,t give themselves permission They tend to obout ony'hing or to feel physicolly excited obout onything'
by doncing to stoy colm ond flot. Troin yourself to be more spontoneous
boring ond flot, she'll likely wont lo ovoid tolking to you. The reoson
most guys tolk quietly is becouse they're scored of interrupting or upset-
ting women. One woy to feel more confidenl is to leorn to speok from your bolls.
ond screom loudly' l/s occosionolly. You mighr wont lo go into your cor up or colm down imporlont thot you leorn to express yourself ond omp more excited is by depending on fie situotion. One woy to leorn lo be omplifying your voice'
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or run' you in turn up your body. When you feel greot ofter o workout
other people in proiect virolity io the women you inleroct with ond the it helps with siress life. Working out is importont, not only becouse
slronge, but il's very effective. We've oll hod moments when we felt
strong ond confident ond mode no opologies for whot wos coming out
of our mouths. We've oll hod momenfs when we've soid something ond
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it increoses your reliel ond keeps you in good shope but olso becouse form of oerobic physicol presence when you're with women' Find o
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it felt like it iust come out of our core ond people iust stopped ond listened. lf you go bock ond think obout how it felt to speok powerfully,
you'll find thot it come from your guts or oll the woy down from your
bolls. Most likely it wos os if on energy come up from thot port of your body ond out your mouth. We're going to teoch you how to reproduce
thot experience ot will.
self-expressed with women. All of these exercises will help you be more women. Remember, ond will help you come ocross os more ottrqctive trc while you do them ond stop when it sficps being fun'
Men who feel intimidoted oround tolking to women cut off their life ener-
hove fun
gy ond their vitolity. When you speok from your bolls you feel more con-
fident becou3e you hove your life energy supporting you. When you
hove vitolity ond confidence, tolking to women is much eosier.
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We know thot peok performers in sports ond other fields incorporote this concept into their success sirotegies. They get reolly grounded in their
guls or their bolls; they feel o conneclion to thot oreo, they breothe into
in touch with their power. They ore used to ovoiding their bolls ond gurs when they feel scqred. You con troin yourself, however, to focus on this oreo; over time, il will greotly enhonce your self-confidence.
it ond they get psyched up. Peok performers use this proctice to moke
themselves feel strong, confident ond powerful before they
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Breothing is on importont ospect of leorning to speok from your bolls. rt olwoys sounds silly when someone tells you to breothe; if we weren,t breothing, we'd be deod, obviously. But you con breothe deep down
inside of yourself ond imogine the oir going
or importont situolion.
This is on owkword thing to discuss; the notion of coming from your bolls is so foreign thot our only connection to tolking obout it is to ossociote it
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breothing deeply into your novel ond below, ond feering the power thot comes from fiot port of your body.
Here's how you con use this energy. Stort by closing your eyes ond sens-
ing the energy qround your nwd ond your bolls. We're not tolking
obout ierking off here or onything like thot-sense il internolly. Sense thot energy, sense your bolls, ond then breothe into it. Next, feel your
breoth circulote down io your guts ond bolls ond then come bock up. The more comfortoble ond fomilior you become with thot energy, the
more confident you will feel with women. The more fomilior you ore with
ment. Here ore o few proctices to experiment with thot will enhonce your vocol copocity.
thot energy, the eosier it will be to occess thot sense of colm qnd confidence when you ore tolking to women. This simple proctice con be done
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lmogine thor there's on excirement merer inside of you. When the meler is of len, you ore bursting with excitemenl; zero equols being deod. Mosr of the time shy men ore oround one or rwo on
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When they first stort working with us, mosl of our students tend to speok
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gel out of control, so they don,l get more excited. One woy for you to ger more excited is to put yourself in fronr of o mirror ond
necks. They don't feel powerful ond insteod ovoid being grounded ond
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Spend time with onother person ond toke ot leost o minute lo gel more excited obout something thon you normolly would be. You
invile you to decide to srort using The Hi progrom todoy. chose how mony women you ore going to soy hi to eoch doy, ond stort doing if.
Keep trock. see whot comes up to block you, get firough those brocks,
con go into this one step ot o time; you don't hove lo peg it or 10 right owoy. lf you're normolly ot one or two, let yourself go to four
ond celebrote your successes. The Hi progrom is the foundotion for roking the next steps with women we will teoch you in upcoming chopters.
You olso now know obout creoting ond increosing physicol ond vocol
or five, then groduolly roise the bor. This might seem crozy to you.
ln foct, it is silly, ond when you're excited you risk looking silly. When you're in the flow of being excited, however, ifs ottroctive to women. You con get owoy with o lot more when you're excited oboul something thon you con when you're dull ond boring.
your own enthusiosm obout things, which might be silly, other people will olso be okoy with it. lf you're willing to occept those silly ports of yourself, o womqn will know thot you will olso occept her silly ond owkword ports.
women. The olternotive: gel engoged in life ond toke the risks to
let yourself engoge wilh women. We're giving you permission to let yourself show your enlhusiosm.
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tolking to women.
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inside you. Perhops there is o port of you thot wonts to tolk to women
while onother port is scored to deoth of reiection. One port of you wonts
relotionships with women; onother port only wonls shorl-term sex. One
port of you feels shong ond confident; onother port of you feels scored ond intimidoted.
Lel's spend some lime looking ot the internol struggles reloted to seduc-
tion ond offering some tips on how to hondle the inevitoble internol
problems thot come up when opprooching women.
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The other side of being defensive is being protective. Whot ore you pro-
tecting yourself from when you're tolking to women? Usuolly you ore protecting yourself from reiection or from looking like o moron, or else
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Defunding, opologizing ond prctecting yourself.
ing to women, mony men feel os if they hove to defend themselves. They
immediotely ossume thot every'hing o womon soys is o personol ottock.
These men oct os if women ore oul to get them, out to humiliole them,
you're simply tqying too hord to look good. Unfortunotely there is nothing you con do but toke risks wiih women. You olwoys risk looking stu-
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Another common trop is opologizing for your sexuol inleresl. Shy men
When Bob fhe bod seducer tolks to women he is conslontly on guord ond wondering when she will ottock him. He stores ot her with on ongry
expression. When o womon osks him o personol queslion he tokes on o defensive tone ond soys, 'tVhot do you meon by fhot?" or
men think they ore so powerful thot they con ruin ony womon's doy merely by commenting thot she is beoutiful or showing ony interest.
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Strotegizing.
There ore concrete skills you con leorn to help you suc-
ond our other products ond leorn os much obout yourself, women,
romonce ond sexuolity os possible. Studying, however,
is oll obout
Toking o defensive posiiion when you're tolking lo women does not work. When you toke on o defensive position ond ossume o womon is
preporotion. Once you're hoving on ocfuol conversotion with o womon/ oll the rules chonge.
uncomforioble, meon ond nosty. You need to be open when you're tolking fo women. When you're focused on defending yourself or opolo-
gizing for your sexuol interesl you connot listen to o womon ond connol hove fun with her. When you're with o womqn, look for times when
you're defending ond protecting yourself ond times when you oren't'
Whofs the difference? Whot ore the internol triggers?
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qn octuol fight he uses evefihing he's ever leorned during his troining.
He uses the blocks, the kicks, the punches ond more.
Strotegizing mokes you blind to openings' When you ore tolking inito women lhere ore subtle openings to osk for phone numbers' tiote different types of conversotions, go lor the first kiss, ond not more. When you're focused solely on your strotegy you will be in on see the openings for moving things further' You need to odd Zenlike stote of being immersed in the situolion yet detoched solely enough to see when to osk for her phone number' lf you ore
focused on o slrotegy you'll miss the openings'
Fun Strotegizing is not fun' Why do we keep tolking obout fun? flow men lurn women on. When you're hoving fun you're in the
But to do thot, during the octuol fight he must give up ony strotegy ond
ony skill he's leorned ond be ovvore of the other fighter. He must be open
com-
pletely different ond knock him out. With women you need to let go of
ony strotegy ond skill you've leorned ond be open lo whotever hoppens.
ond when you're miseroble ond struggling you ore not ottroctive' When you focus on o strotegy ond work hord to seduce women'
like you toke oll the fun out of ir ond moke tolking to women feel
When you con be owore, presenl ond open, tolking to women will be fluid ond fun.
work. Relox ond find woys to enioy the experience' is Strotegizing mqkes you come ocross os o freok' A mon who
focused on o sirolegy comes ocross os owkword ond uncomfortTelemorketers ore olwoys irying to use cule lines ond stupid
Monipuloring.
o ierk? Do you wont to find o woy to feel guilty, crummy obout yourself ond regretful? Monipuloling women is one woy you con creole o situotion where you feel like o totol ierk.
oble.
qs time questions lo engoge you ond they olwoys come ocross slrolwosters. Sqlesmen who hove on ogendo or ore using o soles
We've worked with thousonds of men, ond the number one concern lhey
hove in seducing women is thot they wont to dote ond hove sex without
egy come ocross os creepy. When you ore focused on o slrotegy or using o technique you roo will come ocross os superficiol ond
creepy.
being
they feel terrible. They feel guilty ond depressed. Men tell us thot even when monipulotion works the cost is nol worth it. The ultimole cost for
his kicks, Think obout how o mortiol ortist goes into o fight. He works on
mushis punches, his blocks ond more. He works for yeors developing During cles ond strengih, procticing in the doio with his fellow students.
monipuloting women is your self-esteem. Fortunotely, you don'f need to monipulote. You con build reol connections, using the tools in this book.
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Lefs get honest here. Hqrsh truths thot you must foce:
er then you need to stop looking for cerlointy. lf you ore seorching for o seduction method thot is bosed on certointy ond stobility you will foil every time. Tolking lo women is qll obout uncertointy ond unpredictobility. Tolking lo women is like iumping off Some of our students meet women who hove boyfriends ond they
will not occept the foct thot the womon is olreody token.
Some of our students keep colling o womon even ofter o few dotes hove gone bodly. They foil to occept the foct thot the womon is not interested in them. Some of our students keep colling women even ofter o few dotes hove gone bodly. They foil to occept thot they don,t like the
do you do? You con either climb bock down or decide not
or
you con muster up the couroge lo go for it. lf you iump there ore o few
seconds in which you ore folling through the oir, which hels scory exhil-
womon!
Tolking to women is like iumping off o diving boord. At first there is no
a a
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woy of knowing how things will go. You don't know if she's got o bofriend, if you're her type, if you'll offend her with o comment or if
you'll toke her home thot night ond hove sex with her.
To hove o chonce
The vost moiority of women you tolk to ore not interested in you.
l/s importont to see the truth ond occept focts. When you hold on to folse
hopes ond lie to yourself i/s hord to succeed with women. poin con be
ot success, however, you need to iump ond go for it ond understond thot
you hove no clue qbout whether you'll succeed or foil. We oll get scored when we first opprooch o womon. We oll feel nervous ond uncertoin ond doubt our skills. You con still go for it, though. Your iob is to feel the feor ond still do it onyrroyl
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befter to feel the poin of foilure ond loneliness, fhon it is to lie to yourself. The poin con become on olly, not something to resisi. When you,re
oble to be honest it's much eqsier to come up with on qction plon ond get bock into the gome of doting.
Resisting the truth. Mony of our students hove o hord time focing
the horsh reolities of doting women. Most men wonl o sonitized version
Forcing qn outcome. As men, one woy we succeed in life is by forcing outcomes. lf you're o compufer progrommer, for instonce, through sheer hord work, discipline qnd drive you con occomplish neorly onything ond complete ony proiect. lf you're o doctor or on ocodemic you
of doting women; they wont the version without the risk of poin ond
humiliotion. Guess whot? Tho/s not reol. Most women on this plonet ore
not the slightest bit interested in doting you. So whot? You're only look-
con push yourself ond struggle through medicol school or struggle through your Ph.D. fiesis process. You con push yourself ot ony iob to
work overtime, do odditionol studying, toke on odditionol responsibilities ond occomplilh firrks you never thought you could.
oi work. when it
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work qlone comes to seducing women hord work is importont, but hord
The ploy usuolly works this woy: o guy is o friend with o womon he wonts
will not bring you success. You con conFol o lot of oukomes ot work. you cqn,l control women. You connol conhol oulcomes with women.
her on' None of us knows whot o porticulor womon wonts, whot furns issue of whot she,s looking for in o mon. so you connol opprooch the problems' how to seduce women in the some woy you would your work
to dote. He thinks thot if she opens up irc him emotionolly then it will like-
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lying.
With women il's oll on experiment. You show up, run some communico-
lo gel sex. We ore wholly ogoinst lying to women ond do not in onywoy encouroge you to lie. We wont you to cultivote the skills to creote relotionships wilh women you con feel good oboul, nol regret.
tion experiments like Deepening Questions ond Romontic Questions, if ond see whot the response is like. lf she's oPen you do some more'
she's unreceptive You move on.
Whot does lying soy obout you? Lying soys thot you ore the kind of guy
This is olso true when going on dotes. You connot force o womon
hove
who connot gel women by being honest. You connot get women unless
you pretend you're someone else. You cqnnol get women if you ore iust you. Lying leods to o lock of self-respect ond to regret.
up ond do sex wiih you or be in the mood to mqke out"You con show your best to creote o romontic mood. Then ogoin, you con do everything line is perfectly ond she still might not be turned on by you. The bottom twofold:
Lying might work in the short term, but ultimotely ifs veqy costly. Whot if
you end up reolly liking o womon ond wont to pursue o relotionship with
a a
You connoi control ouicomes with women' You con only show up ond do your best'
her? Then she finds you out you lied to her ond she's no longer inlerest-
ed. Whot if you forget obout the lies you told ond o womon cotches you in one of your lies? How is thot going to go over? Whot if the word gets
The bottom line is thoi lying is unnecessory ond tends to couse more
blow your is suicide. You might os well iust put o gun to your heod ond in you i[ broins out if you think o womon will be romonticolly interested
problems thon i/s worth. lnsteod, we recommend you cultivote internol integrity ond ovoid lying to women.
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students We oll hove different experiences qnd skills. Whol most of our
women, do is look qt the bod boys, ond the men who ore with the hofiesl ond feel ieolous ond depressed. Our studenls soy things like: Other men ore rich ond con therefore eosily get women' Other men live in o city with more hot women per copito' women' Other men hove o iob thot is more conducive to meeting eosier Other men ore younger thon I om ond therefore hove on
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don't beot themselves up. lnsteod, they constontly focus on the woys in
which they ore successful with women.
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big sleps forword; sometimes, smoll steps bockword. Along the woy you there will be upset, poin, horsh reolity, scory moments, fun ond ioy.
need to develop on internol opprooch trc see the positive steps you toke
with women. ln the confusing, long odyssey of doting women, you need
to constontly look ot the movement ond steps you've loken ond constontly compliment ond reword yourself for your own progress.
other All of these excuses ore trops. There is nothing you con do oboui
men; oll you con do is chonge yourself'
You con either look ot eoch interoction with women qnd kick yourself for
oll the lucky Rother thon focusing on whot olher men ore doing ond inexperienced breoks they hove, whot con you do? Moybe you're veqy
women. lf with women ond to you i|/s o huge siretch iust to soy hi to from thofs hord for you then srort by soying hi ond build your skills qnd need to slort experimenlthere. Other men feel more comfortoble men ing with the o&onced conversoiionol modes in this book' Some
Mostery moy feel clueless obout doting women ond wonl to buy The for course becouse they need o comprehensive progrom
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the woys you blew it or you con celebrote the foct thot you octuolly did
for ony opportunities they didnt toke with women, errors they mode
while tolking to women ond opportunities to osk for phone numbers they
didn't toke. lnsteod, we recommend you keep irock of oll the things you
do correctly. When you con see the things you've done correctly ond the
woys you've pushed yourself in new directions, if will enhonce your self-
wwwhowtosucmeeting ond doting women. (Check out our web site' ceedwithwomen.com, for more informotion on thoi ond
confidence. lf you only focus on the things you didn't do correctly you,ll
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Perhops your eventuol gool is trc go trc bors ond trrlk to women, but ot the
momenl you're terrified of doing so. lnstreod, you con stort tonighl by
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couch, see if you con get motivoted io toke one smoll sirep toword tolking
soys iening skills. when you ore oble to lisien corefully lo whot o womon likes ond you leorn importonl informotion obout her. You leorn whot she she's possiondislikes. You leqrn whot she considers romontic ond whot inlo more seducote obouf. You olso leorn how to move the conversotion
lo women by leoving your house. Moybe you'll lust go to the coffee shop
ideos ond tive depths. These detoils ore useful in coming up with dote olso in creoting more ropport between ihe two of you' I obout All too often men don't listen to women becouse they're thinking to osk. Deol the next step in o seduclion or moybe iust the nexl question q will your internoldiolog when you ore tolking to womon ond you with
be oble to poy otlention to her.
Scomming women.
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you're not o genius." Do guys who use tronsporent scoms lo gel women
ocfuolly think women ore dumb enough to foll for them? We know o hot young bisexuol femqle who spends o lot of time online. She soys ifs not shocking thot men
Being on the couch qnd wishing you wene our flirting wirh women. h's eosy lo sit on he couch ol home wonting to interoct with
wonl to go women. We oll get frustroted ond depressed ond iust do not woy to get out ond proctice our seduction skills. But there is no olher
They ore women. They ore not going to porochub into your bockyord' They ore not not going to suddenly knock on your door ond beg for sex' beg going chose you down the sireet ond then toke off their shirt ond you to feel them up then ond there' lt iust oin't gonnq hoppen'
The bottom line is this: most of the time when you think you're getting owoy
with something, you're octuolly being incredibly obvious. This mokes peo-
trc give
Mony of us leorned eorly on in life rhot the only woy to get oheod is to
scom people. h/s either be o scom ortist or get nothing ot
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get up' leove the Here's how we recommend you chonge this pottern:
house ond go onyaAere other thon home'
this is thot while scomming moy get some results occosionolly, ir costs
you your self-respect ond selFesteem os o mon. Scomming is whot o guy
does when he's looking for o quick fix for life's problems, ond quick fixes
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her drink in his foce? How does o guy feel obout himself when he spends
Beniomin Fronklin once soid, "lf roscols knew the pleosure of virtue, they
would become virtuous out of sheer roscoliry." When you work fie fundomentols ond build connecrions with people-whot Fronklin might coll
opportunities life will not end, ond you shouldn't beot yourself up. At the
some fime, the world of tolking ro women is oll obout creoting bigger
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to Even when they work, they reinforce the ideo thot you hove to scom
ond bigger openings to risk toking things to rhe next level. perhops you
wont to tolk to o womon ond you risk tolking to her; the next risk is osking her out. Push yourself to toke the next risk. push yourself to go for it.
Men ore fomous for confusing kindness for blindness. Just becouse o
womon is nice doesn'l meon she won't hit bock if you try irr scom on her.
The belief thqt you con or should toke people for oll you con gel ultimotely
When on opportunity shows up, go for it, rother thon regret not going for it loter.
does not work with women or for getting the life you wonl. lf you wont something from someone, you've gol lo moke on effort to build o mutu-
Only rrying one opprooch or experimenting with one technique or niche. lf you use only one technique in this book, you
will foil. successful seduction
is built on o foundotion of experimentotion.
olly beneficiol connection. You must creote positive flirting conversotions thot give women good feelings ond moke them wonl to see you ogoin' Whot's reolly needed is to get out of the entire scom orientqtion. A
seducer who isn't o scom ortist underslonds thot poying the price is whot
You never know with ony degree of certointy whot will eventuolly work.
You need lo experiment
ing mony different niches ond constontly being on the lookout for new
ploces to find women. You must try o voriety of different opprooches.
o mon iust wonls to know whot the price is. He isn't trying to pull o fosf one. This shows up with women in leorning how to moke o reol, humon, romontic connection, even if your gool is o shorlifls oll obout. Such
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out in the world risking ond tolking ro women. h con be stressful, scory ond downright oggrovoting. lr's very frustroting to wolk down the street
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hoving chorocter. Women wont o mon who is interesting ond interested.
fruslrotionThe solution is to creote spoces where you con let out your
spqces where there ore no women oround'
You need to find your edge, the ports of yourself thot ore unique.
Women wonl
us do' you need lf you ore o guy who gets frustroted eosily, ond mony of mon to find outlets for thot frustrotion' lf you come ocross os on ongry
most likely to women they will not only be turned off by you, they will find you intimidoting ond wont to ovoid you. You need to understond lf you your frustrolion enough to see when it's coming out with women' o nice guy you moy come ocross os orrogont ond meon'
Hqve fun.
feor otirocts more feor. women wont to be oround fun men. one reqson comedions get women, even though mony comedions ore not por-
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ing to o womon ot o concert ond you get her number but don't bring her
home. Moybe o womon seems reolly into you but never colls you bock.
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Moybe she's only interested in you os friend ond not o lover. you will not
women ond This does not meon you hove to wolk on eggshells oround respectfully ond oct like you ore Mr. Hoppy oll the time' lt meons you oct
find this out unless you give up your preconceived notions of how ir
should look, ond find out whot reolly is there. you hove no clue whot the
relotionship will look like. And since you connot control the interoction
or her interest level, oll you con do is show up ond go with the flow.
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ing to move things into o more seductive reolm; you should toke risks to
moke things os seductive os possible. But if you ore too focused on get-
tolk to obout how your seducfion experimenrs ore going. A buddy good becouse you con coll him for support bounce ideos off of him.
Hwing someone you con blk b obout women on o regulor bosis
is
is
very help-
woy you will miss the direction she wonts things to go. You will miss the
cues she's giving you ond openings lo toke the interoclion deeper.
will olso leorn o lot obout yourself by being o buddy ro onother mon in
helping him dote women.
focus on whof things need to look like. At the other you need to try to
push things inlo more romontic spoces. Be cognizont of both of these opprooches qnd do your best lo stoy in behveen both.
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plon.
This meons you hove gools, both shorr ond long-rerm. This meons you come up with o strotegy to proctice tolking to women. perhops you com-
Cut off communicotion qnd ovoid people ond situotions thot moke you uncomfortoble. Sometimes you need to cut o dote
short ond leove.
mit to soying hi to
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few limes per week ond hoving qt leost two Deepening conversotions (oll of which you will leorn loter in this book). Whotever your gools ore
where he feels condescended to, obligoted to poy for things thot don't feel right or offended or otherwise mode uncomfortoble by o womon'
fieir
Once ogoin we're not tolking obout being rude or meon, bul sometimes
dotes ore not going well ond even feel reolly bod. We're giving you permission to leove these situolions ond go somewhere else. You do not need
occomplishing their gools. successful seducers keep their word no motter whot. lf they promise to tolk to o cerroin number of women eoch doy
to subiect yourself to women ond situolions thot feel bod. You will likely
end up folking to ond doting women who you're not into being oround. ln those situolions the best tqctic is to leove when there's on opportunity
trc
emotionol components to deoling with women; yes, ir feels like your ego
is on the line oftentimes, but ir's only o gome. lfs not reor. lt's not o mor-
do
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Be experimentol. You never know whot will work for you until you try it. Port of being experimentol is trying new things. Be open to trying
new things rother fhon dismissing them beforehond. Being experimentol meons you reolize thot you need to go through
things iusr for the hell of it, checking things oul knowing i/s not thot serious ond creoting your own rules.
o bunch of
interqctions
bebre one works so you might os well rry o bunch of stuff in rhe meontime.
o new
ond iusr reolly synched up with the other person. So how do you replicote thd experience? There is no cleor poth to doing it every doy or ol will.
Just be open to doncing in o conversotion lodoy. The gool is to hove
wifi nal
opprooch-
es, checking out neur sociol opporfunities ond experimenting with nov
opprooches.
Hqve self-respect.
your gut. You need to storilrusting yourself when you inieroct with women. We soy thot when you,re qttrqcted to o womon ond feel some
Trust
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betroy yourself ogoin the next lime. To moke motters worse, when you violote your self-respect with o womon, it orouses her contempl for you, ond she will treot you even worse. lf you stoy oround for thot, she'll hurt
in oll phoses of seduction. when o situqtion doesn't feel right get out of it. tf you meet o womon ond something obout the interqction feels off, trust thot feeling. Trust
yourself.
you even more. You'll be left wondering why you-such o nice, understonding
guy-ore cought
will
oll be becouse you sold your self-respect for sex, which is o bod deol
full-out ond reolize thot this could be their one ond only opportunity to
This doesn'i meon you should be meon lo o womon, go crozy or do ony-
seduce
o porticulor womon.
thing else thot would domoge your self-respect. You iust hove to decide where the line is ond live with it intelligently.
quickly ond deliberotrely. You oct swiftly ond cut to the chqse. you go for il. You iump in, You byposs the doubts ond the excuses ond do it.
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rother thon to follow her commitment. Another woy ro soy this is to soy
thql women ore, on the whole, more committed to doing whot their emo-
life with ond proctice, you odd o little more do-or-die quolity to your
women.
you crozy. h/s not bod, iust different from the woy you qre.
Women wont to be oble to chonge their minds os much os they wont whenever they
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wont for whotever reoson ihey wont or for no reoson ot oll. This moy
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hey We've noticed thot mony of our students ore frustroted becouse in the some expect women trc oct the woy men do, ond to be motivoted
o[ the rules woy men ore. To help correct lhis, we've put trcgether this list ofwomen.
women who ore These rules ore generolizotions; you will, of course, find
Women use hints snd innuendoes to tell you whot they wonl. When you interoct with women, don,l expect them to be direct
with you obout whot they wont. Once ogoin,
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up, it's lust o difference in the woys men ond women do things. This
meqns thot when you osk women whot they wont you should provide o menu of options rother thon expecting them to generote ideos.
line is' your exceptions to oll o[ lhem. Don't worry obout it' The boftom os though these interoctions with women will go more eosily if you oct
rules ore lrue. not iust screwed-
things fo be romontic. ln some woys they prefer on emotionol rollercoosler to o smooth ride. Another woy to soy this is to soy thoi women hove o wide emotionol ronge ond wont lo express ii fully.
os if they up or illogicol men. They ore women' lf you relote to women oct screwed-up men, you'll olwoys be trying to moke women
the woy you wish they would
through o divorce hove found out how surprisingly meon women con be. ln some woys this is becouse women ore more invested in the concept of foirness thon men ore. while you don't expect life to be foir ond
likely to more likely to hove integrity to their word, women ore more
feelings tell hove integrity to their feelings. This meqns thqt i[ o womon's do, such os her to do something thot is controry to whot she soid she'd
don't think obout it much, the women in your life very well mighr. So if
showing up for
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you feel shqfted, you might not do much obout it'..but if o womon feels
shofted, often she feels il's only foir lor her lo even lhe score ond toke
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By this poinf, you moy hove storted The Hi progrom. lf you hove, how is
worse, why she doesn't-is olwoys o mistoke. She wonts it becouse she wonts il. Which, when you think obout it, is bosicolly true for you too. Give her the spoce lo wonl whot she wonts when she wonts it becouse
she wqnts it qnd don't let it drive You crazY
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it going, interrupting women by soying hi ro them? Is it hord or eosy? Are you toking opportunities or not? Are you storting to see
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lf you ore reolly going to effectively use ihe tools in this book, you hwe
ore o lot of women oround you oll the time whom you usuolly tune out ond ignore? Are you seeing opportunities ond purposefully not toking them? Or ore you one of those guys who soys, ,lV'ell,
soying hi to
pur it off till
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hove o sense of how trc hondle the "inner gome" of tolking lo women, os well os the skill-bosed "ouler gome" of tolking
trc
your own foors. ln this chopter you hove storted lhol process. ln the next
chopter; you'll leorn how to hondle foor of reiection ond ponic. Once you
Not soying hi ond not interrupting women becouse ir's roo eosy is o foirly stondord scom. Just reolize thot soying hi moy be more inrimidoting thon you thought. Accept thot foct, stop moking excuses ond go ond soy hi to some women.
hove those hondled, you'll be in o greot ploce for beginning to tolk to women.
o queslion or using ony other method will hove or leosr one cerroin consequence: some percentoge of the time you will experience reiection. This probobly doesn,t come os such o huge shock, does it? you were probobly thinking obout
it before this poinr '!V'oit o minute-if I soy hi ro women ond interrupt them, thoy'll shoot me down!" rnterrupting women, while ir does leod to success, will olso inevitobly leod to some reiection. lt could be poinfull
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The problem with ovoiding poin by never inlerocting with women is thot
you end up with o life in which you ore depressed ond lonely ond (por-
At every stap-getting her number; osking her out, going for thot first kiss,
oll of
it-you will
even
it ond how tc keep moving forword, even in the foce of foor of reiecrion, is criticol.
women. This choptrer will give you concrete octions ond steps you con toke to deol with reiection powerfully. This trcol for hondling reiection
Becouse seduction is o numbers gome/ you'll wont to move firough o lot
simple but it hos dromoticolly chonged our lives. Being oble to hondle reiection is the oil thqt lubricotes our system for tolking lo women. You
must leorn how to use it.
through those nos, those relections, os quickly ond efficienrry os you con while keeping your spirits high. since we developed this rool, we,ve been oble to lough in the foce of reiecrion (ot leost some of the time), deol with it ond move on without ir being o big problem (olmost oll of
the time). You must be oble to do this, too.
Leorning to tolk to ond seduce women is o process, ond eoch step of thot process you risk reiection. When you interrupl women ond soy hi, you risk reiection. When you flirt wilh women, you risk reiection. When you conduct Romonlic Conversotions, you risk reiection. When you osk for o
womon's phone number qnd emoil oddress, you risk reiection' When
we moke o lot of oppeoronces on rodio ond TV coll-in shows qnd we receive emoil from o loi of men. The number one question we ger is
"How do I hondle reiecfion?" Here,s how you con do it the woy thot top
seducers do.
you osk o womon for o Priming Dote, you risk reiection. When you go on o Priming Dole, you risk reiection. When you go for q first kiss, you
risk reiection. When you go for more, you risk reiection. Every step of
the woy, you ore risking reiection with women.
To moke molers worse/ os you leorn how to lolk to women, you ore likeot every step in lhe process ot one time or qnother.
ly to be rejected
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When you first stort interrupting ond soying hi lo women, you ore likely to feel s1cpped by the women who reiect your interruptions. ln lime, you You will try
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First, let's toke o look ot how guys who foil with women hondle reiection
of oll of her friends iust ro tqlk obout the houmo thot Bob put her
through. He imogines thot his reputorion, such os it wos, is ruined. He tells himself fhor now "everyone will knov/' he wos rrying to be o seduc-
ond the feor of reiection. When Bob the bod seducer is reiected by o
womon, the first thing he does is moke thot womon into his "one-ond-
only hope" of ever hoving sex ogoin. He does this by ideolizing her:
"She wos so
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prefi
ond I never get to meet women like her. She hod the
And then Bob wonders why it tokes him four months to get up rhe nerve to opprooch onother womon, ond why torking ro women is so incredibly hord.
The second thing Bob does is decide thot her reiection of him is his fqult.
He'll tell himself, "She reiected me becouse l'm so ugly ond l'm stupid.
Whol mokes me think l'd be ottroctive lo o womon like her, onywoy? l'm
nol otlroctive. All I om is o piece of shit. I know thot. Plus, whot I soid to
her wos incredibly stupid. I reolly hondled it wrong. I reolly freqked her
sure, this is on exrreme exomple. But the weird thing is thot ifs not oll thqt unusuol. We've known mony men who do this-ond
themselves on
eifher of us osked o womon our ond she soid no, or if either of us tried
out. I should iust crowl bock into my hole ond die. l'll never succeed with women. Why do I olwoys hove such bod luck with women? I suck."
to kiss o womon ond she soid, ,,Oh, I only like you os friend,,, o we,d go inio the whole "l suck, she wos so prefl;y', routine. We,d moke her our
one-ond-only hope, then soy, "rf only r were more onroctive or luckier or smorter or riche/' or whorever... Then we'd dwell in the poin for doys ond use lhot "foilure" ro moke ir even horder to opprooch women ogoin.
Just the other doy we irrlked to o guy who hod this problem. He told us
But
unsuccessful seducers like him, tokes onolher key step loword using this
"the perfect womon" ond moking the reiection completely his own foult ond coming up with on explonotion for the reiection thot is os poinful os
he con devise, brilliont Bob dwells in thol poin.
women becouse he's too busy reliving the poin of thot one reiection.
He reploys the experience of being reiected over ond over, giving himself o new dose of emotionol poin every time he relives it. He imogines You've probobly done this too.
the look on her foce when she reiected him ond thinks how upset she
musl hove been. He tells himself thot she no doubt convened o meeting
People noturolly think thot they need ro know they con survive whorever
life might throw ot them. so in order to be sofe, when o womon reiects o mon, poil of him wonts to moke thot relection os bod os
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thot he knows he con survive il no motter how bod it gets. People cotostrophize reiection ond moke it much worse thon it is to see if they con moke iilhrough. You ore probobly doing the some thing when you tqy to moke sure you con survive the worsl possible explonotion obout why o womon moy hove reiected you.
they con only feel oll thot poin. once you'reoble to reverse thot process
ond hove experiences of being reiected thor oren'r upsetting, it will be much eosier to iniliote more with women-ond to hove more success. Now lel's look of reiection firough the eyes of q successful seducer. When q successful seducer like Bruce encounrers reiection, he olso follows o three-step process, olbeit o different one from Bob's. when Bruce encounlers reiection, the first thing he does is remind himself thot doting
is
it. Which of our oncestors were more likely to survive-the ones who
never worried obout ony'hing or the ones who worried constontly obout
things thot could go wrong ond who mode sure they were reody for ony
bod thing thoi might come olong? Obviously, the oncestors who worried
obout possible future problems hod on edge on those who never worried.
foil onywoy becouse thot's iust life. He soys this to himself: "Greqr. Thofs one more no I don't hove lo heor on my woy lo on inevitoble yes.,,
The some principle does not hold true when it comes to reiection. Those
who put themselves through the poin of reiection over ond over don'l
hove on edge on
fie
sory ond it doesn't help the slightest bit in getting you whot you wont
tion thot is becouse of he4 not becouse of him. He moy soy to himself, "She must be o lesbion" or "She must be ill,, or ,,Moybe her dog iust
wifi women. ht
fortunes, mosl of which never hoppened'" You don't need lo hove o life
con lotch on to thot isn't cotostrophic ond thot doesn,t involve him.
Lefs spend q few moments tolking obour this strep becouse it is so impor-
of horrible misfortunes thot never hoppened. Jusl becquse you con moke something bod emotionolly doesn'f meet lhot you should. You ore not obligofed to do so iust to prove thot you con survive it. Knowing this will help o lot in the oreo of reiection. tont ond so hord for
o lot of fie
One of the moin reosons thot tolking to women is so difficult for most men is thot $ey've creoted so much emolionol poin -thonks to their woy
n't speok English. You don't know, ond it doesn'f serve you to believe the worsi possible explonotion. Moke up something positive! lt reolly is iust os likely to be true or 3ome horrible explonotion tho/s oll obout you.
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Guys so often think thot they ore oll-knowing ond omnipotent. But the truth is you ore not the center of o womon's universe; she is the center of
You musl not moke this mistoke. you must come up with on explonotion
her universe. The reosons why she does things ore more likely to be
obout her thon obout you. Bul it's incredibly common for o guy ttc think thot o womon's world is obout him. He'll tell himself,
for the reiection fhot is not obout you. Let's soy thor ogoin: you must come up with on explonotion fhot is not obout you. Moke it her probproblem with the environment. rt doesn,t motter- just moke it o problem thot hos nothing to do with you. lmogine you soid hi to the womon ot the grocery srore. she didn,r soy hi bock. Whot ore some explonotions thot hove nothing to do with you? "She iust got stobbed wifh o pencil in her leg.,, ,,She,s suffering
from
lem. Moke it
didn't soy hi bock. She could tell thot l'm o bod guy, thot I iust wont to
get in her ponts ond l'm only interesled in sex." Meonwhile, the guy isn't
importont enough to the womon for her to spend her processing cycles
on oll these detoils obout him. She's iust trying to moke it through the
doy, she hos incredible cromps, her feet hurt, she's mod ot her boss or
wholever.
omnesio." "She iusl got out of the hospitol.,, ,,She,s been here since 5 o.m. ond is exhousted." ,,She,s hoving her period.,, lt doesn,f motier. come up with some explonotion. one thot works reolly well is
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Believe it or not, the womon who reiected you does hove o life outside
guess she's just reolly in her own world." Usuolly i/s true. Usuolly women
of you. And thot life is much more likely to be the reoson thot she reiecF
ed you thon is her obility ond inclinotion to see into your soul ond divine
is.
whot o scummy guy you ore. She's iust not thot interested in you. She
hos problems of her own.
the third ond finol step. Afler Bruce reminds himself thot doting is o numbers gome ond fiol she wosn'r his one-ond-only hope
ond ofter
DAVID: l'm thinking obout o time o few yeors ogo when I thought I wos
reiected by o womon. I soid hi to her ond mode some olher remork
ond she iust trotolly blew me off. She ignored me complebly ond wolked owoy. I wos left thinking thot I must hove done something
once ogoin, you ore not required by low to dweil in your suffering ond experience the poin of reiection over ond over ogoin becouse you
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con. smort seducers think obout something else-onything else. pick up q newspoper; listen to the rodio, go wotch W, go on o wolk, go flirt with
qnother
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heor in her left eor ot oll. I olwoys moke sure to be on her right when l'm tolking to her." lt turned out she hqdn't heord me! The "reiection" hod nothing to do with me ot oll. I thought, '!Vhy didn't
come up with thot explonotion?"
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One greol ottention-redirecting question is 'lVhot do I wont to do right now?" Often this question will help refocus the energy of the reiection
into some octivity thqt is useful to you. One mon we know wos fli*ing
online with o womon whom he hod previously hod sex with ond whom
he wos hoping to get into bed with ogoin. At one point in their lnstont
impervious to reiection. When you're ot o bor with him, you notice thot nothing stops him. After he,s reiected by o womon, he,ll soy trc ,,Oh
well, she threw o drink in my foce-r guess [m on to the next one. Ho hol" You've probobly wondered how he did it. weil, this is how. He
Messoge conversotion, she storted telling him obout this new guy she
hod met ond obout how he hod come over for o night of hot sex the
evening before.
thoilhd rejecfion wos iust one more no he didn't hove trc heor ogoin on his woy to the inevitoble yes. He
mokes the reiection her problem ond then redirects his oilenrion by moving on to fhe nextwomon (or onything else). Thus he evenruolly
succeeds.
Noturolly, he felt reiected. So first he reminded himself thot doting is o numbers gome ond thot this womon wos not his one-qnd-only hope.
Second, he mode the reiection her problem by exploining to himself thot she wos o very unsloble olcoholic (which wos true| ond wos probobly Remember thot you hove to do oll three steps; you con't just do the one you like the best. Lefs go over rhese three sreps one more rime
ond then
' o o
womon wqs not your one-ond-only hope for sex. Remember thot this is one more no on the woy to the inevitoble yes.
creote on explonotion for the rejection thot hos nothing to do with you. Moke it o problem with her or o problem wirh the environmenl but not o problem with you.
Redirect your ottention. Find something else ro think obout or do.
worked. He stopped thinking obout the reiection ond got into thinking
The importont thing is thot you redirect your ottention to something spe-
Ask yourself, 'lVhot do I wont to do right now?,, to give yourself ideos for things you con use the energy from the reiection to do.
cific. l/s not enough to tell yourself, "Don'l think qbout lhe reieclion" wifiout putting some other octivity into its ploce. You need to think obout
something specific or you'll iust end up thinking obout the reieclion you
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os eoch pretendr trc hove some trouble with rhis process.
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DAVID: Greot. How obout fhe fiird step, which is redirecting your
ottention? Did you find yourself iust noturolly going over it ogoin
RON: I wos eoting lunch ond I went up to this womon behind the
counter who wos reolly hot. I soid, "Hi, my nome is Ron, how ore
you doing?" And she iust turned owoy ond she didnt tolk to me.
She iust wenl ond did something else.
RON: Right, I could hove done thot. I could soy to myself, "Hey, doling is o numbers gome. lt's not like there oren't 20 women in this
ploce right now. I gol upset becouse this one didn't work
Do you get whot we're tolking obout here? This reolly is obout leorning
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is something
don't need to do thot. Also, thofs iust one more reieclion I don't
hove to experience ogoin on ihe woy lo the inevitoble yes."
DAVID: Whol wos the first thing thd you did? Did you blome yourself
or whot?
Now let's wotch Ron cooch Dovid through the reiection process.
RON: I thought, well, ieez, she's so hot, why isn't she tolking to me? I must hqve blown it in some woy. Did I soy the wrong thing? Am I o ierk? Whot hoppened?
DAVID: So there's o woy in which you blomed yourself ond mode the
reoson for the reiection obout you' Whol ore some of the reosons
why she might hove totolly blown you off thot hove nothing to do
with you? Just generote some of lhose'
RON: Hmm, nothing cruel obout thot, eh? So first of oll-whot wos
the first thing thot you did?
RON: Well, obviously she wqs working, so perhops she hod some work to do. Thot might hove been one possibility. Or perhops
she
DAVID: I thought, "God, you know, thot wos such o pretty girl ond we
went on thot dote ond the dote went so well ond she hod so much
cleovoge ond I loved her hoir ond there reolly oren,f thot mony
Or she moy nol hove felt very good-it wqs the oft'ernoon, moybe
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obout the next step? Whol hoppened next?
DAVID: I could hove soid, "Of course! Stotisticolly, tho/s gonno hoppen o certoin omount of time. Thofs the kind of thing thot hoppens
focus on right now? How con I toke some of the energy l,ve got
use?,,
RON: So long os you redirect your energy in some woy. DAVID: Yeoh, just doing this I feel much befier, more energized.
You need to retroin yourself to hondle reiection properly.
RON: Whot did you moke il meon? Whot wos your inlerpretolion? Why did she send you this emoil? DAVID: Well, tho/s becouse she couldn't even beor to see my foce. l'm so hideous thot I drove her bock to her ex-bofriend! I knew
this would hoppen! This olwoys hoppens to mel Why does this sort of thing olwoys hoppen to me? Why don't women like me?
we hove done this to the point where it is outomotic. When we ger reiecred, our broins
immediotely respond bmouse we hove been working on it for yeors.
l'm iust not lovoble. l'll never hove the girl I wont! All I con hove
fot women! I suck!
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DAVID: Well, she's reolly mixed up right now. Moybe she is reolly in
love with her ex-bofriend. Thot doesn't hove onything to do with me. Whot om I going to do, go knock him off or something?
go out for o dote ond I soy, ,Whot do you think the odds ore thot you ore going to hove sex with her tonight?,, ond he ting reody
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Moybe she is reolly confused. And you know whot? She wosn't
thot hot! h/s not like there oren't hundreds ond thousonds of women oround who ore thot hol ond hotter! She's not thot hot o
commodity.
going out on o priming Dote ond osk yourself, ,Whot do you think qre the odds thot she,s going to show up?,,
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For some reoson/ putting percentoges on things seems ro creote some kind of "reolily conversqlion,, oround them. you might soy, ,,Greol,
theret o womon ocross the bor. There's o five percenr probobility thot
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with o womon down to something tongible. So insteod of it being this whole big scory ihing, you soy,'lVell, look*there's
chonce it will go. No big deol."
soy hi bock or when they scowl or give you ony orher response thot you consider o reiection,
Progrom, oren't you?), it will give you o loborotory in which to experi_ ment with the reiecfion process. When women don,t
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proctice the releciion process. Firsf, remind yourself thot ifs o numbers gome ond thot this is one more no you don't hove to heqr ogoin on your woy to the eventuol yes. second, come up with on expronotion for
the
DAVID: Yep, with thot girl lwos telling you obout, I gove it o 50-50
chonce thot she would go bock to her ex-boyfriend, becouse of the
reiection thot hos to do with her, nor you. And third, redirect your oren-
woy thot she wos tolking obout him. Tho/s whot occurred. Those ore
the numbers. Thofs
eosier.
fie gome.
wrire il down.
Very often guys storl oul overly optimistic obout their chonces, so they're
"Greot, I hove o 90 percent chonce with thot womon ocross the bor." Well, you olmosl never hqve o 90 percenl chonce with o womon. You
musl mqke o more reolistic probobility stotement.
i/s imporicnilo write it down is thor doing it in your heod is deceptive, especiolly ot first. lt/s eosy fo do o sloppy ond incomplete iob if you ore iust thinking your woy through fhe three-srrep
process. You will think you hove done the process, but you octuoily wiil
not hove-you will hove thought obout doing it, which your mind wiil
misinterpret os hoving octuolly gone through the process for reor. Writing down the reiection process gets it out of the reolm of the obstrod ond inro the reolm of the reol.
We use this tool in every oreq of our lives. Whot ore the odds of
us geF
ting fhis new book deol? Soy we think i/s 40 percent. lf so, oll we need
is
o little more thon possible deols ond ir'll be likely thotwe'll hove o deol
going. This is something for you to ploy oround with. lt moy be useful for you to ossign probobilities to things iust to moke different oreos of your life cleorer ond more like o gome.
You moy wont to corry oround o pen ond some poper so thot you con
grob o minute or lwo ond write down the process os you go through your doy. some of our studenrs do rhe process in their heods during the
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After you've written it down o number of times, you won't need to wrile it down so much onymore, olthough we still write it down on occosions when reiections seem to get to us more thon they ought to.
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process thoroughly you will feel completely better. sometimes you'll feel
90 percent better or even only 50 percent better. Thor's oll okoy-i/s Prqctice befiore you moke the opprooch. Of course, you don't
hove to woit to experience reiection lo use this process. You con olso use
it when you ore thinking obout opprooching o womqn ond you feel the
feor of rejection trying to slop you. Tell yourself, "lf this doesn't go the
Whot is not occeptoble is doing the reiection process ond feeling zero percent, one percent or lwo percent betier. you oren't done with the
process until you feel substontiolly better ond hove some energy to move
on to something else. lf you find you don't feel better, go through the process ogoin. Remind yourself thot doting is o numbers gome; reolly
feel how you've iust heord one more no thor you'll never need to heor ogoin. come up with new, more compelling reosons thot moke the reiec-
gool. Also, if she reiects me, it will probobly be becouse she is in her
own world or hos o heodoche todoy or something like thot. lf she does-
n'i work out, l'll go tolk to thot other womon over there. Piece of coke,
l'm reody to go!" This will prime your broin qnd put the interoction in
perspective. So whot if it doesn't work? Eventuolly one {ond more) will.
tion her problem, not yours. Find something thot you reolly wqnt to do ond thot engoges your focus. And keep doing this until you feel some
emotionol movement. Until thot hoppens, you reolly oren't finished with the reiection process.
hondling
fli* with o \ /omon ond il doesn't go well, do the three-step process. lf you osk o womon out for coffee ond she soys no, do the three-step
process. lf you go for the first kiss qnd she soys she iust wonls to be
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The only circumstonce under which you will not need ro moster the reiec-
lion process is if you ore nor getting reiected-ond if you ore nor geiling reiected you ore not doing enough interruptions ond initiorions wirh women ond you orc much less likely to succeed with them.
becouse it meons thot you ore toking oction with women, toking risks
in the flow, rother thon something thot rokes them out of the gome. we've heord rumors thot hockey god Gordie Howe would puke in the
locker room before every gome. He would be overcome with onxiety, but he leorned how to feel the feor ond go for it onyvoy. our hope is thot you loo con leorn how ro honsform your feor ond use it to your odvontoge.
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kept me olive os I went through lots of women till I found whot I wos looking for." These tools con help you too.
Lefs get reol: if there's one thing thor generotrss ponic, i/s going up to
fie
ote inleroction with o womon in o ploce like o bor or the street when you
her.
ollout ponic ond totol terror. We've worked with men on oll points of the
Feor hits eoch mon differently. Feor occurs on o spectrum, from onticipotoqy feor like butterflies in your stomoch ond slight nervousness to
mib or smoll omounts of ponic. lf you suffer from oll-out ponic ottocks with women,
you need to look deeper, perhops fo onti-onxiety medicotion or theropy. We ore not theropists or doctors, ond hondling ponic is not our oreo of expertise' We con tell you thot if you hove ponic ottocks there is help.
spectrum. The tools in this section ore for men who hove
Mony of us mistokenly think there ore men out $ere who ore seduclion
mosters who never experience ony feor ond con go up to ony womon ot ony time ond seduce them. The truth is thot we oll get scored ond feor-
ful when opprooching women. We often get scored when opprooching women for the first time, qnd so do oll of our studenls. The point is to
leorn how to hondle onxiety ond ponic ond opprooch women even
when you feel nervous.
Here ore o few tools for you to leorn ond proctice. The more you con
proctice them when you'reolone in q womon-free environment, the eosier it will be to use them when you,re obout to opprooch o womon.
Mony top othletes experience feor ond nervousness before going into o
big gome, but they've leorned lo use feor to their odvontoge. They've
leorned to use the feor os o molivolor, os somelhing thot helps tham gci
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offect your posture ond breothing, ond your overoll sense of confidence
breothing. lt becomes shollow ond increoses in speed, ond oll of o sudden his body shifts into fight-or-flight mode. When you breothe ropidly
with women. stort by recolling o time when you reolly hod bolls, when you feorlessly went for something ond produced on extroordinory result. When you recoll o fime you felt powerful, you don,t hove to drow on o situotion where you felt powerful with women. lr could be o footboll gome/ o roce you won/ when you osked for o roise, o greot speech you
gove or ony moment of victory in your life. lt's o woy to boost your con-
ond shollowly, your broin is olso offected; you think less cleorly ond
enter o spirol thot leods to more ponic. The trick is lo stort deep breoth-
ing before you get neryous oround women ond to continue deep breothing when you opproqch women.
obdomen. We recommend you breothe in ond count to four ond then breqthe out while counting to four. After
fidence. lfs o woy for you lo tell yourself, ,yes, l,ve got bolls, l,ve done stuff thot is omozing, I con do this-no question obout it, no doubt.,,
o few minutes of
breothing
deeply, you should be much colmer. Proctice this on o doily bosis so thot
We've oll hod momenls where we,ve performed beyond whot we thought our copobilifies were. And you, yes, you, hove hod rhose
momenls too.
lf you toke o few seconds trc recoll o time you were powerful, you'il
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in bed or on the beoch; moybe it/s your boyhood home or your fovorite
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moments ond use your post success to fuel your confidence with women
motter.
es up. Affer you hove done some deep breothing ond visuorized success,
ifs olso useful to srretch your body to help it relox. stond up ond toke o
few minutes to stretch your body from heod to toe. Breothe os you do it.
The next time you're stressed ond wonr to opprooch o womon/ go into
very usefi,'l in getting yourself into o reloxed, ployful mode. The cool porl
is thot you con use the some reloxing scene over ond over ogoin, which
will help you stoy colm. You con keep recolling lhot scene eoch time you
feel nervous.
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before you ore going to trclk to o womon your thoughts get ugly-reol ugly. You ihink obout oll your post foilures, oll the woys in which you
suck, oll the reosons you're o foilure with women. ln the foce of oll thot
fure someone you trust ond imogine them offering you suppod ond
encourogement. Think of Ron Louis ond Dovid copelond. We ore on your teom. We ore here to encouroge you.
visuolize onybody who hos been o supportive figure in your life. Who
ore the supportive figures in your life now? who ore your best friends? lmogine they ore there behind you, on your teom, encouroging you to go up ond tqlk to thot womon you,re scored to tolk to.
food, sporls, sex/ your fovorite movie, whotever. When you hel stressed
ond nervous, thinking obout something you enioy will help perk you uP
so you con hove fun.
Nol roking your thoughts so seriously. We oll think crozy stuff sometimes. But iust becouse you hove o thought one moment doesn'l
meon you ore going lo hove it the next. We heor thot people who med-
You con even imogine thot someone like John Trovolto (in his role in the
movie Gef shortyl, o rock sto4 someone you odmire or o politicol figure
soying,
itote for yeors ond yeors often comment thot they get io o ploce where they stop toking their thoughts, feelings ond body sensolions seriously. They reolize thot ot every moment there ore new thoughts ond sensotions possing through their body, ond thot's iust life.
The experience of meditqlors suggests thot we ore olwoys in o stote of
"Come on, you con do it, you con do it. We hove totol foith in you!,, This
Toking q wqlk.
for o few minutes. While you're out, do some deep breorhing ond enioy
the fresh oir. And while you're wolking, think obour someone you enioy
flux. One momenl we might be foeling extreme leor ond the next moment the feor will turn into something difhrent. You ore olwoys
chonging, so one woy to be reloxed is to think, "l'm nol going to hove this ponic thought for more thon o minute or lwo; then it will chonge.
Remind yourself thot your thoughts ond body sensotions ore nol reol ond
ing your heod ond colming you down enough to opprooch the womon
don't need to dictote your behovior. We olso recommend thor you get oerobic exercise of leost rhree rimes o
week. Men who tend
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leorning toi chi or yogo is greotly useful in leorning to stoy colm. You
con pick up books on these types of exercise or toke courses. Since toi chi, chi kung ond yogo tend to be meditotive, students often find they
con use the skills to stoy colm in their doily lives, porticulorly in stressful
siluotions.
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As we've soid before, there is o srep-by-srep sequence of events in seducing o womon. As you reorn ihe skiils for frirting ond torking
to
o belligerent jerk. You need to gouge how often ond how much you
drink so thot you con feel confident qnd orticulote ond think cleorly
when you're oround women.
women ond proctice them with women, you'll probobly find it helpful to
remember the phoses of seducing o womon.
few thot should be helpful. lf there ore proclices you use to decreose your onxiety, keep doing them. lf you heor of ofier exercises, definitely try them. The point is lo find proctices you con toke on to remoin colm ond relqxed when you tolk to women.
you, you must get over it (see the previous two chopters). you musr ger your mind creor;
remember ond celebrote your posr victories ond get yourself into o peok
olwoys need to be getfing your mind creor ond determining if onything is stopping you. lf there,s o post reiection stopping
Feeling tense ond ofrqid is perfectly normol, but hoving tools to overcome your feor is whot's most importont. Proclice o few of lhese moves
performonce srqre. You must be reody for possibre reiecrion, ond hove hondled your ponic' Wherher you're on o coffee dote, obou*o soy hi lo o womon or going for o first kiss, you ore orwoys going to be botiling yourself ond your own frome of mind. Thots phose one.
The second phose of seducing o womon is inrerrupting her ond gefiing
Ponic ond onxiety is something thot con be controlled. lf you suffer from
this problem, no motter where you qre on the ponic speclrum, lhere hope.
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her ottention. You must initiorre wirh women, ond it tokes guts to do thot. It tokes gurs ro initiote the first kiss. lt tokes guts to initiote getting her phone number ond emoil oddress. rt tokes guts rrc initiote everything.
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thofs your iob. Never foil to remember thot ir's your lob, excrusivery.
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Before we get into the specific tolking ond flirting skills, there ore o few
generol concepts we should cover: the three time fromes of on interqction wifh o womon, leoving her wonting more ond other foctors in how you oppeor to o womon.
like you underslond her, she feels like she understonds you ond you iust
hove
occomplish this.
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Finolly, the fifth phose is getting inlo more "heovy''sexuol stuff. You storF
ful womon wolk out of his life forever becouse he wosn't conscious of how urgenl it wos to toke o risk with her right then. Understrrnding the
three time fromes of on interoction will help keep thot from hoppening.
Although this book focuses on tolking lo women, for more informotion on doting you con reod How to Succeed wilh Women ond visit our web
site of www. howtosucceedwithwomen.com'
You only hqve q few minutes. ln this situotion you only hove o
few minules, or moybe iust o few seconds, to moke contocr. you ore on o troin or in o line ond this is your one-ond-only chonce. you soy hi to
her ond it leods to o conversotion. You hove to get her number or emoil
going in os deep os you con go ond then bockpedoling. You go in ond you ore holding honds ond you stop holding honds then you go bock
into the interruption phose. You might be moking out ond oll of o sudden find yourself bock in the ropport-building phose. A dote is unpredictoble. You hove to let thot flow hoppen.
while in line ot the post office. There wos o pretfy girl who wos olso in line who mode eye contrcct with him severol fimes. He soid hi ond they storted
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Alter she finished her business ond wos leoving, he got out of line ond followed her inlo the lobby. "Excuse me," he soid, "but I iust got ihe
strong feeling thot I ought to soy hi lo you. I know il seems slronge, but
loke more risk when you osk for the number of o womon you ore in line with thon you do to get her number when you see o womon twice o week in your oerobics closs.
I iust hod this feeling obout you. Could I hove your emoil oddress, ond perhops we could get logefier somelime?" He hod o brief window of opportunity ond he needed to toke o big risk, so he took it. lf he hodn't,
she would hove been out of his life forever.
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interested in is going to be oround for
l/s best to leove o womon wonting more. Thot meqns ifs beiter if your conversotions with her ore shod.
Thofs not how mosr guys flirt wirh women. wirh most guys, if on interoction with o womon is going well, they push it ond keep tolking until something bod hoppens. only when rhere's o problem or bod feeling
risk it oll right owoy; you con offord to woit, to toke smoll risks with her over o few hours rother thon toking o reolly big risk oll ot once.
with the womon do they sfop. Thot meons they olwoys monoge ro end
their interoctions with women on sour notes. Thofs bod.
bock ond see over ond over or lhe womon in your oerobics closs who
Knowing these three lime fromes helps you know how much you must risk ond how quickly you must do so. lf you ore putting gosoline into
try to get her number qnd close the deol, r'm iusr going to keep rorking.,, T Or they think, V'ow this is going greot. Therefore, l,m not going to come bock ond tqlk to her more loter; l'm going to stoy here qnd be
your cor ond the womon of the nexl cor is otlroctive qnd you wont to
tolk to her then you hod better risk o lot right then, becouse she is obout
to disoppeor from your life. On the other hond, if thot some womon
shows up ot on eight-week closs you ore toking, you don't hove lo risk
omozed thot i/s going well until she inevitobly gets bored. when she gets bored I will get tense ond then when r get tense I will mess evelrthing up ond she will finolly soy, ,Oh, I hove to leove.,,,
big right owoy by going for her phone number or emoil oddress.
You
okoy, moybe no guy octuolly thinks thqt-but thot's how it works out in
proctice.
con risk big if you wont, but you cqn olso toke smoller risks ond seduce
her over time.
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Unfortunotely,you will find o woy to blow it during those first inleroctions if you give it enough time. Therefore you hove
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Proctice breothing from deeper in your body. Breothe more deeply ond let your stomoch go in ond out os you do. Then toke o deep breoth
so
you con feel your voice originoting from deeper in your body rother thon exclusively from your throot ond heod. This will give your voice
more resononce ond moke il for more ofiroctive to listen to.
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oble experience qnd leove her wonting to see you ogoin. lf i/s going well, don't breok the rules-get out of there on o high note so she's left wonling more of you, nol tired of you ond wonting
less.
owore of the speed ot which you tolk. some men tork so quickly thot
they're exhousfing for women to listen to. lf you tend to ,,speed rop,, peo-
Thot is olso o woy to keep yourself empowered. lf you stop your flirting interoctions wilh women while they qre still fun, you con be hoppy oboul
ple, you need to proctice slowing down. lf you notice yourself tolking
reolly quickly, pouse ond toke o deep breoth. sometimes blinking slow-
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By the some token, we've worked with some men who tolk so
sroily ond
boring-ro listen to
them. lf you're q mon who tolks ve4y slowly, you might consider being o little more onimoted in your speoking. Breothing more deeply will help
with this, qs will ollowing yourself ro express more of your exciremenr when you ore tolking to people. proctice sounding more excited when
you tolk with people ond see how it feels.
into ond speok from their upper chests ond throots. This gives their voic-
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This is eosy to do if you understond women's reloiionship to detoils. The There ore two greot things obout these flirting skills. First, they fit togeth-
world of v/omen is in the detoils. she works hord on the detoils of her
oppeoronce. Noticing fhose detoils ond complimenting her on them
is
er reolly well. Once you understond ond stort to use these skills, you'll
see how you con flow from one lo onother ond reolly hove
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Second, these skills ore eminently leornoble. You con leorn the bosics quickly, proctice them, review your progress ond get good ot them. They
Noticing ond ocknowledging detoils obour o womon seporotes you from other men. Mosl men don't see detoils, or if they do, they don,t comment
oren'l mogic; you don'l hove to be superchorismolic mon or o noturolly gifted hypnotist to use them. These skills, olong with the skills for interrupting ond initioting with women, will help you creote romonlic connections with women.
on lhem. Noticing detoils sets you oport from the crowd. lt mokes you
more otlroctive.
'Who/s the story behind thot?" is o simple question ro osk ofter you,ve
soid hi ond noticed some detoil of o womon's presentotion. lf you,ve gotten qt oll good ot soying hi, using this skill is eosy. ,lVhot,s the story behind fiot?" is on excellenl question to osk o womon: ilrs open-ended
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Almost every womon hos o detrcil obout her obout which you could osk
thot?" She soid, "Oh, I got this on my hip to lndio.,, I bllowed up:
'lVhot's the story behind thot?" You might soy, 'Thot looks like on interesting book you're reoding. Whofls the strcry behind lhot?" or "l see you're
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who likes to lrovel?" She soid, 'Yeoh, it wos on omozing experience," ond we eosily got intc o conversotion obout trweling ond her trip to lndio.
We'll show you more detoiled exomples of how to sustoin ond deepen
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We con heor you soying, "But osking lVhot's the story behind thot
mogozine you ore reoding' doesn't moke sensel" You're right-ond thot lock of "sense" is port of the power of the question. h's very open, so
she's free to interpret il ony woy she wonls, ond thot might leod to some-
oll you hove to worry obout is soying hi, noticing o detoil ond geiling
one simple question out of your mouth: 'lVhofs the story behind thqt?,,
thing interesting. At the worst, she'll osk you, 'lVhot do you meon?" ond you con osk o follow-up queslion such os 'lVhot is it obout thot mogozine thot you like?" or "Are there ony orticles in it thot porticulorly interested you?"
Of course, ifs better to notice detoils obout physicol oppeoronce lhot ore
more meoningful to her thon her loptop or the mogozine she is corryAs we mentioned before, 'lVho/s the story behind lhot?., is o very open-
ing, but there moy not olwoys be something like thot ovoiloble. lf so, il's
fine to go for something mundone.
osk,
'lVhot's the story behind thot neckloce?" she ctln onswer by tolking
obout how she got it in lndio or how she mode it herself or how it olwoys reminds her of her first dog or whotever she wonts. The question does-
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on. I hoven'l seen onything like thot bebre. Who/s the strcqy behind
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us whot hoppened. He soid,
ln lhe second exomple, the mon soid, "Thots o reolly inferesling scorf you're weoring. ls thot o fomily heirloom?,, Once ogoin, he limited her
possible onswers, ond in lhis cose, he forced o conversotionol direction
this womon ond I sow thot she hod on o reolly interesling pin, so I soid
lf he hod
osked,
her, 'Oh, thofs on inleresting pin. Where did you get it?' And she
soid, 'Oh, I got it qt q siore.' Thot wos the end of the conversotion-it didn't go onywhere ol oll."
thoP" she could hove tolked obout whot she wonted to tolk obout ond things would hove worked out much better.
There's o greot sequence sforfing to build here. Hi con leod very notu-
Another cooching client sow o womon who wqs weoring o reolly interesting scorf. He soid to her, 'lV'ow, tho/s o reolly interesling scorf you're
rolly to
'who/s
the stoqy behind fhof?" ond rhor leods into the other flirt-
ing skills.
weoring. ls thot o fomily heirloom?" She gosped ond soid, "Oh god, hope
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Did you spot the errors? Both of these men osked the question in woys
thot limited the onswers the women could give. The first guy soid, "Thofs
tion. lt gels most women to open up immediotely ond tell you intimote
detoils obout themselves. After they've told you these detoils, ir's horder for them to think of you os o ierk; ofter oll, if you were o ierk, why would they open up so much to you?
on interesling pin. Where did you get it?" Well, there's o very simple
onswer to thot question: "l got it ol o store." The question limited the kind
of onswer she con give; she could only tolk obout where she obtoined
it, which wos probobly boring for both her ond the mon.
On the other hond, soying, 'Thofs on interesting pin, whofs the story
behind lhot?" is very open. She con onswer with olmost onything thot
inierests her. She could soy, "l got it in New Zeolond" or "l gol it ot he
when you're tolking ro o womon, be it o solesgirl behind o countrer or o womon ot o porty, check to see if she's weoring onything thot looks
unusuol or personol. lt might be
or o brocelet. When you see it, osk her, 'nVho/s the story behind thot?,,
ll's o powerful conversolion storler. o
moll" or "l got it for myself with my Christmos money." lt leoves her with
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Moves) to memorize ond implement in your life. When you implement these moves while tolking to women your success rote
will
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The moin reoson some men get stuck in the friend zone is becouse they
don't know how to show fteir romontic interesl. Other men get stuck in
the friend zone becouse they're ofroid of being reiected. Men in both
cotegories con leorn the Romontic Moves, use them without risking their heorts ond souls, ond finolly stop coming ocross os perpetuol friends.
lf you're like o lot of our students, you've looked ot the bod boys who
get women ond decided you weren't going be like them. You probobly
decided thot
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willing to show their romontic inlerest right owoy ond risk rejection. The
bod boys ore willing to be upfront with their sexuol inlerest. You con
leorn lo be up front ond show your romontic interesl to women in woys
thot ollow them to feel opprecioted ond respected. We'll show you how.
they give up. Gropple with yourself ond overcome ony resistonce you
hove lo procticing ond integroting the Romontic Moves into your doting life.
When you meet o womon for the first time, i/s cruciol thot she knows
yov're o romqntic possibility. lf she sees you os only o friend, it's hord to become her lover. We believe thol women decide within three minutes Another pitfoll to which unsuccessful seducers succumb is only using one or lwo Romontic Moves. lf you only use one or two moves when you flirt
of meeting o mqn if he's o potentiol lover or not. lf you send cleor signols
successfi.rl. You
the
strong signols obout your inlerest. When you meet o womon for the first
developing loter.
time, you need lo do ot leost four of the Romontic Moves so you send o cleor signol thot you ore romonticolly interested.
Men oflen think thot the Romontic Moves do not opply if o womon
is
extremely ottroctive. You follow the some rules when deoling with hot women os you do with olhers. Show your romonlic interest right owoy
long" creoles o momenl of intimocy between you ond her. ln holding eye
with ollwomen.
Moves. Find the ones thot ore toughest for you ond keep procticing them until they feel noturol. Hopefully some of them will be eosy for you. lf so, keep procticing them ond refining your skills. After o while, when you/re
ond be more cqulious, but you're no longer iust o friend. You ore stepping into the potentiol lover cotegory ond creoting moments of infimocy by moking eye contoct with
her.
fomilior with oll seven moves , yov'll find yourself effo*lessly integroting
them into your flirting ond your conversotions with women.
Here's how to do
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conversotionol lull, hold eye contoct for iust o beot too long, iust until ifs
o little uncomfortoble.
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moment of intimocy. When Bob the bod seducer looks ot o womon, he slqres too long ond too deeply. He lenses up his body, leons in close to
her foce ond stores ot her long ond hord. The key to looking into o
womon's eyes "loo long" is to ovoid turning it into o big deol. Look into
her eyes for o beot too long-iust long enough to creote o speciol
momenl.
women?
lf you're o guy who tends to ovoid eye conioct ond store ot the floor, you
When you're with o womon, moke decisions quickly ond eosily. lf you,re on o dote ond you con sil in one corner of the coffee shop or the other,
choose quickly. lf you're ordering wine ot o bor, decide quickly. lf you,re selecting
need to proctice looking into women's eyes when you trrlk. Hoving o dif-
ficult time moking ond holding eye contoct is o very common problem, but there is help. The cure is to stort looking women directly in ihe eye for o few seconds ond then wolking owoy.
to
meel for o dote. pick quickly. When you're out with q womon, she needs to see thotyou're o decisive mon. This doesn't meon you lurn into o deci-
You con develop new skills wifh women, like tolking ond mointrcining eye
sion Nozi ond never osk for her inpur. lt does meqn, howevel thot when lhere ore times for quick decisions during o dote you oct decisively.
oble things ond experiment with new behoviors. When you proclice
shetching yourself in new woys, you will eventuolly become desensitized
ond fuel comfortrrble being with women. lf you're willing to stort smoll ond build your confidence slowly over time, you'll evenluolly overcome your feors ond be successful. lf you hove o hqrd time looking o womon
o lost ort. Most men don,t wink ot women. Why ore we recommending it? Becouse winking ql women is seductive, simple,
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Wink. Winking
fun ond infimote. Friends don't wink ot eoch other; potenriol lovers do.
in the eyes when you tolk, stort procticing todoy. Over the next few
monlhs you will feel more confident ond comforlrble initioling ond hold-
Lefs go over how to look into o womon's eyes "loo long" once ogoin. Look into her eyes ond hold eye contoct iust o wee bit too long so you get into the intimocy zone. Proctice holding eye conloct ond proctice get-
It iust tokes o second ond is very eosy. lt helps to smile ofter you wink to
moke the inleroction feel wormer. You con wink ot ony point in o conversolion with o womon. Moybe you're tolking to her ond you,re both
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creotes
Check out her body. Checking out o womon's body does not meon
you slore ot her cleovoge for hours ond hours (even though we oll love
o little intimole momenl between you ond her. The key to success
lo see greot cleovoge). This does not meon you drop some chonge on
the ground ond try to look up her skirt while you're picking up the coins thot fell in front of her. This meons you check our her body in o respect-
in winking ol o womon is to be subtle ond moke sure the wink is o quick shored moment between the two of you, not o long uncomfodoble ordeol.
fulwoy.
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There's o porodox obout mony women. On lhe one hond, they're offend-
lf you contorl your foce ond look like on oxe murderer while blink-
ed when you store ond check out their bodies too long. On rhe other hond, they work out oll the time so they con hove greoi bodies, dress
greot ond weor push-up bros. Women wont you to look ot their bodies
so they fuel opprecioted; they iust wonr you to be somewhot subtle so they
ing both of your eyes ot ropid speed, you will not come ocross os
romontic. lf you wink ot o womon ond then run toword her, you will look like o stolker. lf you wink ot o womon ond then stick out your tongue in on
don't feel completrely obiecrified. Yes, ifs o rough line to wolk sometimes, bul we've got some tips thofll be useful in figuring out this mess.
overtly sexuol monner, you will come ocross os o ierk. lf you wink ot o womon ond then store deeply into her eyes, you
Here's how to do it:
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Winking is o greot romonlic move becouse ifs not something most men
do; il/s out of the ordinory. When you wink ot q womon it cotches her
ottention ond drows her in.
i/s so fost ond strrrts ond ends with her foce it comes ocross os respectfr.rl.
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o friend would do. A friend might woit until she wosn't looking ond then
try to look down her shirt. When yov're oble to check out q womon
quickly, you're letting her know you're romonticolly interested in her ond not o ierk.
choir like you're bored to teors. Now sir up ond reod this book like you're gefting o million dollors of volue from Louis & Copelond. Whofs
the difference in your body posture? Whofs the difference in your oilen-
tion? How does your body feel? When you ore in o stote where you ore otlenlive ond keeping your body powerful it will show in your body lon-
a a
When you're interocting with o womon ond keeping your body powerful, you're not distrocled. You're poying oilention to her, not checking out
a a
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don't store ot her cross-eyed ond never blink while tolking. Just focus on
the womon you're tolking to ond keep your body powerful.
You're checking oul women oll the time onyrvoy, so you might os well stort procticing this method.
compliments o womon, you soy, 'Wow, thofs o reolly nice briefcose you
hove." When you compliment o womon the woy o potrentiol lover compliments o womon/ you soy/ 'lV'ow, you ore
seduction
hove reolly beoutiful eyes. ll's reolly o pleosure to meel you.,, ln compli-
heroes in the movies? ls ii Will Smith? John Trovolto? Billy Bob Thornton?
menling o womon the woy o lover does, you stoy owoy from impersonol complimenls. As o potentiol lover; you wont to let her know thol you,re noticing romontic detoils obout her ond you're willing to toke risks in tolking to her.
Clint Eostwood? Humphrey Bogort? The nome of your screen hero isn't
importont; the point is thot you'll likely be more seductive if you model
your behovior ond poslure on your hero. Men who ore seductive hold
their body in o powerful woy so when they're stonding, sitting or moving they come ocross os both foscinoted ond foscinoting. The woy to do this is to pretend thot you ore foscinoted, foscinoting ond powerful ond
then stond ond move in thot woy.
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how beoutiful you ore for o second" or "You hove on omozing sense of
stylo" or "Your smile brightens up the whole room. ,, l[ yov,re being intro-
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ing to toke some risks ond give o womqn some compriments, you,il find out how fo push the boundory betueen friend ond rover, despire rhe occosionol mistoke.
$ol o womon
into, you come ocross os o potentiol lover. As we soid, o friend compliments o womon on her briefcose, cor or something impersonol.
As you proctice complimenting women, it's importont to find your own unigue compliment style. Do you feel comfortoble complimenting
o
A poten-
womqn on her smile? whot feels too overtly sexuol to you? Whot seems
cheesy to you? Get ouf there ond find the style thot's best for you. When
Somelimes friends ond lovers moy notice the some thing obout q womon
Whisper
but they will bring il up in very different woys. A friend might notice o
neckloce ond soy, 'Thq/s o veD/ nice neckloce." A potentiol lover might
o moment of intimocy between the two of you. lt's like the resr of the world
is shut out for o second ond you,re olone together.
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Leon into her ond soy o few quiet words; then leon out ond tolk normolly.
woy to stoy perfectly sofe is lo remoin in the friend zone. lf you're willWhispering's o woy of drowing in your personor spoce ond moking rhe conversotion more intimote.
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feors, so is not threotening to her. ll,s olso quick ond it gives you on eosy
"too long," mqke decisions quickly ond eosily, wink ot o womon, check
out her body, compliment her, keep your body powerful ond whisper to
her, you
gym or o woitress who didn't serve your toble or ony womon you see Keep trock
of how mony
ond wont lo opprooch, buf the noturol flow of things hosn't thrown the two of you together.
Which ore eosy ond which ore difficult? Find the moves thol score you
mosl ond try them onywoy. The more you proctice them, the less intimi-
doting they'll be. lf one of the Romontic Moves is eosy for you, refine it by proclicing it often. We wont you to feel comfortrcble with these moves while pushing yourself to go outside of your normol comfort zone. These
moves ore going to bring out the romontic you.
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o hot womon
when you're leoving o bor, reslouronl, store or wherever you moy be.
When you wont to interocf with o womon who intimidotes you. The Goodbye lntroduction is designed to be over quickly;
il doesn't put you in o situotion where you ore foced with o womon without horing ony ideo whot
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Tell her
yov're leoving.
thing like "l hove to go nov/' or "l'yegorio run, my friends ore woiting for
me outside."
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lmogine you're ot the gym ond you see o womon who's reolly ottroctive. But she's busy lifting weights, ond it seems like your gym isn't such o
well qre going to osk themselves some combinotion of three things when
you first interrupt them or toke o conversotion into deeper, riskier territory. These questions ore obout her sofety; they ore 'Whot is he going
ing. Then, on your woy out, introduce yourself like this (smile while you
do it!): "Hi, l'm iust leoving ond I only hove o second here, but before
This is why, when you do the Goodbye lntroduction, your first words ore
go I reolly wonted to inhoduce myself to the womon who hos such wonderful form. My nome is Ron." She'll soy something bock like "Oh hi,
my nome is Mondy." Then you soy, "l've gotto go, but I hope to see you
here ogoin." Then you leove.
next time
you see her ("Hi Mondy, how ore you?"l.lt olso gives you o woy of interocting with her
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the first time without there being much risk for either of
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her right owoy thot you qre leoving, she's less likely
ic be ofroid of you wosting loh of her time. lt olso builds your esleem ond
teoches your nervous system thot you con ocfuolly survive tolking to beou-
olwoys foil; they end up soying something like "l'm not o stolker or onything, I wonted lo meet you" or "Don't be ofroid, I iusl wonted lo soy hi.,,
tiful women, which mokes il more likely thot you'll do it ogoin in the future,
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she'll probobly respond by relling you her nome ond being friendly. After oll, whot does she hove fo lose if you're obout fo leove onyrvoy?
From there you con either moke some chitchot (which we,ll tolk obout
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or leove, your self-esteem increosed by hoving token o risk ond hoving hod o reol, romonric interoction with on qftroctive womon.
soon) The Goodbye lntroduction doesn'f usuolly get you
onswers her sofety questions well enough for her to relox ol leqst o little. This ollows her to be more open ond receplive to whot you soy next, when you...
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women directly ond romonticolly, ond o big port of becoming o seducer is becoming thot klnd of guy. Anhis point in the seduction skill build-
simply soy, "but I iust couldn'l leove without infoducing myself to the
ing, the point is not to get her in bed; the poinf is to get you to be the kind of guy who con do this sort of thing. The Goodbye lntroduction
builds thot oggressive, seductive muscle, which is whot will help you succeed with women.
Compliment her.
you ore in. Whot is it obout her thot you're odmiring? Are you odmiring her style? her posture? her rodionce? her smile? Whotever it is, you
compliment
Furihermore , iI you use the Goodbye rntroduction ot o gym, bor or ony-
il.
ploce you might see the womon ogoin, you now hove qn opening with
womon's breosts, for inslonce, we shouldn't hove to tell you thot soying
"l couldn'l leove without introducing myself to the womon who's got one
hell of o rock" is not going to sound very seductive.) Find something to odmire obod her thot she'll see os o compliment ond give it to her-soy something like 'the womon who is so incredibly rodiont" or "who hos
such o beoutiful smile."
her: you've complimented heri you've introduced yourself to her os o powerful mon ond you know her nome. Next time you see her, you con
soy hi ond use your other flirting skills with her.
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"Hi! l'm iust leoving now, bd before I went, I hod to come up ond lell you thot you hove such o beoutiful smile, it lights up the whole
room. I iust hod to let you know
nome is Ron."
or emoil oddress. lf you soy, "l wos iust leoving ond I reolly gotlo go, but I iust hqd to stop ond soy hello lo fie womon who is so beoutiful. Hi,
my nome is Dovid." She might soy, "Hi, my nome is Soroh." From there you con soy pretty much onything. lf you're ot the gym, for instonce, you cqn osk her how she likes the gym or how often she works out. You con
osk 'lVhot's the stoqy behind thot?" or use ony of the other flirting skills.
"Hi, l've gotlo run right now, but before I do I iust hod to toke the
risk of coming up ond telling you thot you hove such o bequtiful smile. By the woy, my nome is Dovid."
When you ore reody, you leove-ond we suggest you do this while the
conversotion is still fun. Firsl, soy lo her, 'You know, I reolly hove to go, but you seem like on inleresling person qnd I would reolly like to know
"Hi, l'm lust on my \ /oy out ond only hove o second, but before
sense of style. I wish I hod to time to stoy ond seduce you, but
went I iust hod to come up ond tell you thot you hove on omozing
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woy. Soy, 'lV'ell, it's been nice to meet you!" ond go.
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to o womon but they don't tell her "l'm obout to leove, so I only hove o
moment to lolk to you." This leoves her not knowing whot you ore going
opprooch her, tell her you're leoving, tell her you couldn'f leove without complimeniing her, compliment her, introduce yourself ond either leove
to do to her or how long it will toke ond sends her right bock into her
sofety questions. She thinks, "Oh my god, whot is he going tc do ond
how long is this going to toke?" You've got to tell her you only hove o
momenl ond will be leoving, even if lhe contoct slretches out into o much
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romonlic or sensuol. You might be ofroid to let o women know thot you
out loud. This is cruciol. There's o huge difference between reoding the
exomples in this book ond octuolly speoking them out loud. We recom-
mend thot you memorize one or two of these ond proctice them
l0 or
20 fimes out loud. You hove to get used to hoving these words come out
of your mouth so thot when you're in front of o womon you con iust open
will know whot you soid to her ond will lough ot you.
When you let these feors run you, you're likely to give o tepid compliment, like'You hove o reolly nice briefcose" or'Those ore nice shoes."
Such mild complimenls don't show your romontic interest ond don't show thot you're the kind of guy who's willing to toke some risk with women. You're likely to come ocross os too mild, ond tho/s not good.
for the hottest women in the world ond do fiis seemingly mossive thing
if it's too terrifying. You moy wont to proctice this ot first with o women
whom you oren'l mossively ottrocted lo iust to get the experience.
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the first few times you do the Goodbye lntroduction will be very scory
for you. You'll be ofroid thot something terrible will hoppen or thot she'll
might be oll you con do ot first. lf so, do it ond celebrote thot you did it; if you're shy, thot moy be o big step. Don'l expect it to blow her owoy,
becouse it won't. But it moy give you the confidence you need to give o
bigger compliment nexl time, ond tho/s oll thot reolly motters.
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go through those first few scory times to get to thot point. lf you woit for it not to feel risky before you try, you'll never try.
heovy ond even scory lo women, so he never got the result he wos look-
ing for. You hove to lel yourself feel good obout whot you do. Doing o
Goodbye lntroduction is o big step, ond no motter how it turns out you
should feel good obout it.
to tolk. Thofs the moment of commitment, the moment the sky diver
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Goodbye lntroduction. But when we tolk to women, they tell us thot heoring o Goodbye lntroduction or experiencing some Romontic Moves with
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she's the receptionist of your dentis/s office or the woitress ot your
o mon often mokes their entire doy. ll/s o nice thing to do. Controry lo
whot you moy believe, you con be
luncheonetle or the womon who ot the moll who's selling you o new tie. You need o good woy to
women's doy by flirting with her ond showing romonlic inlerest. Don'l deprive women of this fun, feel-good experience!
kidding with women. Perhops you've even hod moments where you
were thot guy. Men who ore good ol kidding oround with women ond
who con moke thot kidding romontic ore procticing Situotionol Flirting.
Situotionol Flirting involves two key skills: creotive misinterpretotion ond osking outrogeous queslions. Creolive misinterpretotion hoppens when you toke some detoil in the environment thot you ond the womon ore in ond oct os though thot item is dromoticolly different thon it is. You then
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For instonce, you moy be interocting with o womon who hos o comero. You moy moke the creotive misinlerprelotion ihot her comero con steol
souls ond then osk the oulrogeous question:
Situqtionol Fli*ing works well on oll these problems. lfs fun, light, pleos-
ont, enioyoble ond energizing for you both. lt creotes o shored reolity
between you,
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This ioke is on opening for her to ioke bock with you. Mony women will respond humorously, soying something like, "No, this isn't my soul-steol-
ing comero-l left thot one ol home." At the very leost, most women will
smile ond lough. As the ployful interoction progresses, you con odd, "l
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think your beouty hos stolen my soul olreody." Then you're reolly in the reolm of effective Situotionol Flirting.
q numbers gome.
proctice Situotionol Flirting, it's o good ideo to remember our old odoge:
fix kind of thing. Not oll women ore going to be receptive to humor;
some will get scored ond stoy scored. To
"Outrogeous Question" obout. lf you con do thot, you con proctice Situotionol Flirting.
shoot. When you begin Situotionol Flirting with reol-world women, iust remember thol doting is numbers gome.
vide o sense of certointy for her thot whot you're doing is okoy, thot
there isn't ony problem with you ioking oround with her or with her iok-
How ore you going to moke o light, enioyoble connection? How ore you
going to build thot initiol stote of ropport? And how ore you going lo do
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need to creole on enioyoble, memoroble experience together thot shows her you're o trustworthy, fun guy who she might wont to spend time with.
ity. They ore going to be looking ot you, your behovior ond your level of
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Be reody for o vqriety of responses. When we storted procticing Situotionol Flirting, sometimes we ended up with women storing ot
us like they were reolly scored. lt olmost never hoppens now becouse the
will moke it more likely thot she will get upset. lf you seem to be thinking, "Greol! l'm moking this ioke ond she is going to look to me ond if
I om okoy
more we proctice this flirfing skill the more we trust it ond the more we
con proiect thot trust ond reloxotion to the women we're flirting with.
wifi
tion.
Ultimotely, if you moke o Situotionol Fli*ing ioke ond she hos o problem
Most women
with it, remember: il's o numbers gome ond her problems ore hers, so
whot else con you do?
Well, whot if she didn't hove ony comebock ot oll? lf so, you'd provide
the comebock-something like the one you hod hoped she would use. You might soy,
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hove left it ot home." She con lough ot this ond you'll toke her off the hook for hoving to be clever in order to enloy being with you.
with ond putting energy ond vitolity intn your voice. lf you're frowning,
scowling, looking ot the foor or mumbling, it's going to be hord get Situotionol Fli*ing tc work
it your best shot!
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R.emember your Situqtionol Flirring question. When you wonf
lo proctice situqlionol flirting with o womon, look oround the environment you ore in ond osk yourself, 'Whot is there in this situotion obout
Proctice, proctice, proctice. Situotionol Flirting is complicoted enough thot you probobly won't moster it overnight. lf you're used to trying to control conversotions with women, ond most unsuccessful seducers ore,
which I con osk some sorl of outrogeous or silly question? Whot con
creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot might be lvnny?" The onswer to thot question will guide you in your Situotionol Flirting. You'll see how
it moy loke some proctice before you get used to letting go of controlling the conversotionol outcomes ond moking creolive misinterpretotions ond osking outrogeous questions.
you. h/s risky ond will toke time to get used to, so give yourself
tries ot this before expecting it to
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quite well, so don'f worry if these seem weird on the printed poge.
smoll woy thot she wos speciol, not iust on outomoton dispensing tickets.
Also remember thd these exomples qre not prescriplions: we ore not suggesting you do these exoct Situotionol Fli*ing convefsotions. These exomples ore to get your mind thinking in this mode, so you con come up with
don'l know if you've noticed, but oll the employees ot the Gop weor rodio heodsets. I don't know if they con tolk on the phone or
poge eoch other or whot, but it struck me os odd, so I osked
myself,
your own, be flexible, ond hove the flirting interoction reolly work.
'lVhot
ringing me out, "Con you lounch the spoce shuttle with thot?" lt
wosn't very fr.rnny, but she thought it wos funny enough to lough obout il.
which I con osk some sort of outrogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot might be funny?"
So I smiled ond osked her, "Do you ond your friends get to go up there ond porty ofter hours in the Arch? Does it get to be your
fiot heodset*they
ore feeding you pro-Gop propogondo eoch ond every moment, oren't they?" And she loughed ond soid, "Oh nol I love the Gop!"
n't reolly getting into the ioking mood yet, so I smiled ond osked
her, "ls it o ploce where you get to go o lot? Could you ond me go
'Vell,
I think you
should try it out with o ticket first." lt wos o successful flirting inter-
oction.
So the next time I come into the sficre I con do the some thing ogoin. I con come in ond smile ond soy, "Oh, so they're still feeding you
Dovid took something in the environment, the Arch itself, put qn outrogeous spin or interpretotion on it ("ls this your personol ployground?")
thot pro-Gop propogondo through your heodset, right? Are you still
pro-Gop?" l/s become o running ioke, ond she ond I hqve thot little
shored reolity together thot is difbrent from our ordinory lives ond is
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the kind of thing thot fits in with oll the flirting tools in this book.
RON: I wos grocery-shopping the other doy ond there wos o womon
in the olcohol section who wos pretty hot. I osked myself the quesSo I went up to her with the book I wqs holding, smiled ot her ond
tion, 'lVhot is there in this situotion obout which I con osk some
sod of outrogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot might be funny?" I thought obout o misinlerpretotion: whot if she wos on undercover cop looking to orrest underoge kids for trying to buy olcohol?
soid, 'This book looks pretty good. Hove you reod it? Con you
review it
br
me?" She soid she hodn't reod it, so I soid, smiling ond
So I smiled ond osked he4 "So, whot ore Vou doiryfr Are you scout-
hoven't gotien to oll the books yet. l'm still not even done with the literoture seclion, ond they keep odding to it!"
ing for oll the underoge people who ore trying6 buy beer? You're
not going tc bust me, ore you?" She loughed ond loked bock, "l
don't know, you don'l look too young!" I held out my wrists for her imoginory hondcuffs ond soid, 'You could bust me if you wont "
ond we loughed together. lt moy look stupid when you reod it here but she wos loving it.
RON: There's o lot of stuff you con do in o bookstrcre. I hod on experience once when I wos in o bookstore ond I sow o womon looking ot
books obout UFOs. l osked myself, 'Whot is fiere in this situotion obout which I con osk some sorl of outrogeous or silly question?
or phone number. lf I see her ogoin, I olreody hove o connection with her, so it will be eosy to build upon it. We hove o fun imoginory world between us now. She knows she con be silly with me.
Here's whot I did: smiling, I held up o book ond osked, 'lV'ere you
Ler,s
shore some qbduction sficries." lt sounds stupid, but she wos lough-
DAVID: You hove probobly noticed thot very pretty girls often work ot
bookstores. lwos ot one such bookstore ond I sow o
prefi girl
who worked there iust sort of honging out behind the informotion
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ln thot situotion, you mighr olso "misinterpref' o womon to be on olien ond soy, 'lV'ow, so ore you o beoutiful olien here to obduct people for
tests?
looked ot thot condy, ond osked myself the question, 'Whot is there
l'll bet thotyou ore...ore you going to toke me?" lt mokes o ioke,
compliments her ond shows your romontic interesl. lt/s going to be hord
for her to stuff you inlo the "iust friends" cotegory ofter you confidently told her she wos bequliful during your first interoction with eoch other.
So I smiled ond soid,
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DAVID: Here's onother exomple. I wenl into the bonk, ond there wos o girl behind the counter, ond we were doing some bqnking lrons-
think l've been pretty good, but in some woys l've been pretly bod,
too." She loughed, ond I soid, "l don't know, I might need some correction os well os some rewords. Do you think you would be oble
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do thot?" She loughed, I went on with my tronsoction ond I left hoving hod o successful Situotionol Flirting interoction.
Notice how these flirting intreroctions hoppen with women you see
every doy in ploces you go on o regulor bosis: the bonk, the grocery store, bookstores ond so on. Using this tool, you con use these ploces lo meet ond connect wilh women.
ond soys, "Oh, thofs so fr.rnny-lwish I could." Then I took our little
shored fonicsy one sfiap further: "Oh, but then you would hove ic
pqy o percentoge of whot goes out, too. Thot would be bod." She
loughed ond soid, "Oh no, I wouldn't like thot
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iust keep
the money when it comes in." I smiled ond soid, 'Thot would be perfect for you! I con see it now...You get trc keep lhe money
becouse you do such o greot iob!" She soid, 'Yeoh, thot would be
perhct. Here's your money, hove o greot doy!" Next lime she
me, she'll be reody to hqve onother fun interoction with me.
sees
Situotionol Flirting move I storted with her weeks ogo. She is iust o bonk treller, but I olwoys kid her obout becoming bonk president. I
soy, "Okoy, Liso, when ore they going to moke you president of the bonk? l/s obod time! I know you hove been doing this work
only so you con infiltrote the bonk, ond I know thot pretty soon you ore going to be the president. ln foct, I om going to be your
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thot we build upon every time I see her. l'll soy things like 'lVhen
you ore the president, I will come ond I will shovel the snow off your cor ond we'll hong out, you'll do personol loons to me, ond
together we'll moke o killing in interest rotes..."
o womon by osking myself whot I could creotively misintrerpret into on oulrogeous, frlnny question.
to keep it going, ond she loves it. ln her doy-to-doy lib, she
Just
probobly feels like the lowest rung on the lodder-which she isond here is o guy who octr.rolly con see her nol only for whot she
is
ting there reoding this book ond it is boring me, so I storted osking the womon sifting ot the next toble whot she thought obout oll
but in o for-oul, flottering woy. So thot hos gone reolly well for me.
of these exomples. l'd osk her things like "lt sqys women feel like DAVID: Restouronts ore onother greot ploce to proctice Situotionol
Flirting. For instonce, nol too long ogo I wos in o bokery where they hod o giveowoy going: you dropped your business cord in
this fish bowl ond if they picked it out, you won q yeoy's worth of men tqy to fix them insteod of listening. Do you think thot/s true? Hos thot been true
hr
versolion, ond I got her number ond emoil ond ended up doting
her. Thot oll come out of osking her
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tion obout which I con osk some sort of ouirogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this situotion thot might be fi.rnny?" ln this exomple, Ron didn't even "misinterpre/' onything. He wos simply
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me piclure
soid, "No, no, I won't be doing it!" I soid, "Oh, so somebody else
o little more fonciful, until it becomes o little world in which you ond o
womon con enter together. You con leorn to do this with proctice.
will be dumping the breod on my lown ond you will be like the figure in the bockground who mokes if hoppen but doesn't reolly come
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deliver it herself?" She loughed ond soid, "No, no, the breod will
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self, 'lVhot is there in this situotion obout which I con osk some sort of outrogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this
situotion thot might be funny?" The opportunities reolly ore everywhere.
you hwen't done in six monfis or so, you should probobly coll up your dentist ond moke on oppointment. The receptionist wos o very
pretty girl. As she wos checking me in, I osked her; 'Are you the
For instonce, if you're drinking o cup of coffee with o womon, you could
guordion of this bod, evil ploce?" She soid, "Oh yeoh, l'm the guordion oll right." I soid, 'Well, con you put o spell on me, oh guordion, so the work on my teelh won'i hurt?" She soid, 'lVell,
I
look ot the grounds in the bottom of the cup ond soy something like "l heord thot some people con tell your fortune by looking ot your coffee grounds...ifs sort of like ostrology. People do it in Turkey. Would you like
me to reod your fodune? Would you reod mine?" lf you're drinking teo,
you con osk, 'Vould you reod my teo leoves for me? I wont to find out obout love." She will lough. ond thot is o funny, romontic thing.
try the
o restou-
conversofion obout how she hod this mogicol power ond it wos fun
ront ond your pretty woitress osks you, "Do you wonl your receipt?" You
br
us both.
con soy,
together. l'll'keep it forever." lf you smile while you do it, there's o good chonce she'll lough, ond you'll hqve hod o Situotionol Fli*ing intreroclion.
the Generol,
ond every lime we wenl there we would solule her: "Hello Generol, how ore you todoy? Whot ore our orders?" She would
iust crock up.
get her number. lt is more obout being o guy who knows how to flirt, becquse flirting, combined with soying
hi,
'!Vho/s ihe story behind lhol?," combined with the Romontic Questions,
combined with giving risks, combined with everything else in this book,
is whot not only gets you
We hod o running ioke obout her being on ormy spy. We'd osk her,
'Are you here spying or ore you here for some covert operotion?"
And she would soy, 'Yep, l'm here spying." We'd soy somefiing
like "So, you're here to see whot is going on in this sficre in cose
hos been primed ond tested ond who is more thon likely reody to be romontic or even sexuol with you well before the dote even hoppens.
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you hwe to moke o ficcticol move, right?" And she'd soy something
like "l'd tell you, but l'd hove to kill you." lt wos reolly fi.,n, ond when we'd come in, her eyes would light up ond she would reolly look brword to tolking to us.
self,
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oulrogeous or silly question? Whot con I creotively misinterpret in this situolion thot might be funny?"
spring doy once doing some promotion for one of our books ond we were wolking down the street ond these three beoutiful women come out of this noil spo. They hod iust hod their noils done ond lhey were odmiring lhem, ond I sqid to lhem, "Oh, i/s the beoutiful noil women! You musl be here to show the world your beoutiful noils. Con we see?" They were thrilled fic show us their new noils.
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Situotionol Flirting occomplishes o number of worthy gools:
when you proctice sifuotionol Flirting with o womon, you show thot
you're not iust o friend becouse you're ploying with her in o woy thot o
lowly mole friend never would.
We told them how beoutiful they looked ond how beoutiful their
noils looked ond they were loughing ond giggling. We ioked obout how they musi be getting reody to be in on internotionol noil conlest
You're interrupting her ot o deeper level ond inlecting yourself into her
consciousness. This shows her thot you're the kind of guy who con go
trco.
ofter whot he wonts ond con moke things hoppen. Here ore some ploces where you con try out your Situotionol Flirting
skills todoy:
o little
moke-believe
. The heolth club . The moll . The bonk or credil union . The coffee shop
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world together, which is o welcome relief from the difficulty ond redium of her normql life.
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situotionql Flirting olso brings out o ployful port of yourself, which
is
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ship. When you flirt ond ore silly with o womon ond provide her with
reossuronce thot things ore okoy, you become sexier to her.
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with o womon, you leove the interoction chorged up, with higher selF
esleem ond more energy thon when you stortred.
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As you get better ond better ot Situqtionol Flirting, you'll find thot it creotes q self-reinforcing rycle: the more you proctice it with women, the
more energy you hove, ond the more you wont to do it with women.
We're now going to toke fli*ing to the next level with o process colled
Deepening. Deepening is o woy of toking onything o womon soys to you ond turning it into o bonding conversorion. Deepening is oboui hoving on intimote tolk ond developing ropport.
This is port of
o series of
getting the dote. Hi leods to osking '!vhot's the story behind thor?,, which con leod to Deepening. Deepening then moves into Romonric
conversotions ond osking for the number. When you feel comfortoble with this progression ond hove some experience trying it our on women,
you'll quickly become o pro. Whot exoctly is Deepening? Deepening is o conversorionor mode thor ollows you to get inro o womon's world ond find out whot she's possionole obout. Deepening is o woy for you to ocknowledge, ond help
her ocknowledge, whot she cores obout. Deepening is powerfur becouse mosl women oren'r used to being recognized in woys
fiot feel romonlic. Most women don't see themselves os speciol ond oren't used to other people seeing them os speciol. When you're oble ro see the possionote
ond speciol ports of o womon ond feed ir bock to her, she,ll feel o bond with you' with Deepening, you con develop o connection wirh o womon without bomboozling her.
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ot o womon, check out her body, compliment her, keep your body pow-
You osk o womon questions obout her possions qnd interests. Bosed on whot she tells you, you describe her possions ond interests
of her life in
you'll either tolk obout topics she's possionote obout or you should probobly end lhe conversotion ond move on lo someone else.
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of Deepening is to look for oreos in o womon's life where she feels possion ond feed it bock to her. You ore volidoting ospecls of her life thot
most people do not see or ocknowledge. When you show o womon thot she's speciol, she
on the lookout for openings to osk for o dole, phone number, or emoil
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Deepening is for women to hove positive experiences with you, hove lhem expose ports of themselves to you thot they rorely expose to onyone else ond then hove them feel enough sofeiy ond ropport to go out
with you.
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DAVID: Here's o recent exomple of o Deepening Conversotion I hod ot o porty. I wos tolking to o womon ond osked her o simple queslion. DAVID: So whot do you do for o living?
CASSIE: l'm o sociqlworker.
life. l/s importont to ovoid topics thot she is upsel obout. When bod
things come up, redirect lhe conversotion to whot is working in her life ond whot she's most interested in.
DAVID: Wow, thofs reolly interesting. You must see oll sorts of things
in o iob like thot.
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RON: Le/s tqlk obout this exomple. You got her tolking obout whot
she is most possionole obout ond then you resficfigd it bock trc her,
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you dislike ond moments when you feel like you reolly don't like whot you ore doing, but then lhere ore moments when you feel
like you reolly ore doing whot you were pul on eorth to do.
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informotion from her. She seemed very interested in tolking to me ond gove lengthy onswers to eoch of my questions.
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tronsplonts. I do oll the coordinoting ond I olso deolwith oll of
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SOPHIE: l'm on occountonl.
oble line up oll those numbers ond oll those columns. lt must feel
incredible when you hove evefihing bolonced ond everything perfectly in order.
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DAVID: I don't get to see thot kind of o thing in o womon every doy.
reolly oppreciotre seeing thot in you, ifs reolly inspiring to me.
DAVID: Lefs tolk obout this exomple. ln this exomple I come up with o woy to bed bock to her the exciiement of those best moments in
occounling, When I fed thot bock to her I wos oble to see some-
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thing in her life thot most guys do not see. Most guys would hove soid something like "So, whol kind of softwore do you use os on occounlont?" Bul I wos oble to see the mogic of hoving oll the
numbers line up. When I reflected her possion bock to her, her
eyes got big ond shiny.
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reolly hote it." Then if you osk her if there is onything she likes obout her iob, she's likely to soy, "No." lf thot hoppens, here,s how to hondle it. We recommend you soy, "Okoy, I would be curious to know, if you ore willing to shore, whot is it thot you ore possionote obout? Whqt is it in your life, if it is not your iob, ond
for q lot of us it reolly isn't our iob, thot reolly turns you on os o womon ond mokes you feel like you ore reolly doing something you love?"
folling flot on your foce. Dovid ond I hove enough experience, ond hove foiled enough, thot we hove o clue of whot might work
ond whqt might not work, bul the only woy for you to get to o
ploce where you know whot works is through triol ond error.
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Ron tolked to q womon recently who told him she hoted her iob. So he
knew to ovoid osking her obout it. lnsteod, he osked whot she,s most
possionote obout in her life.
friend thon o romontic possibility. With the sociol worker, for exomple, I could hove soid, "Oh, where do you work? ls thot o good
iob? Wow, whot ore the hours like?" Those would hove been questions thot would hove kept me in the friend zone. lnsleod I osked,
RON: Thofs interesling. Whot ore fhe best moments when you're volunteering ot the pet shelter?
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feel turned on?" When I met the occountont, I come bock with, "lt
KATE: Some of the best moments for me ore when o dog comes in ond they ore sick ond I om oble to work with them qnd nurse them bock to heolth. I spend time with them ond then o fomily comes in ond odopts them. lt mokes me reolly hoppy when everything works out well. lt mokes me feel like I hove mode o difference in
the world.
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difference, ond thofs wonderful.
KATE: Yeoh, I reolly do volue helping people. Thonk you, thofls nice to heor you soy thot.
times I write obout heolth issues. one of the best ports of my iob is thot I trovel ond wrire freelonce orticles for trovel mogozines. All
RON: Le/s stop for o second. How is the conversotion going, Dovid?
DAVID: l'm hoppy with it ot this point. As we exomine odditionol
exomples of Deepening, you'll see how we go from osking whot she does for o living to whot she,s possionote obout. I olreody osked Heidi whot she likes to wrire obour, which is o woy to storr
RON: Well, I don't meel women every doy who ore so focused on
helping people. I think tho/s reolly speciol ond I cqn see thot you ore o speciol womon.
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whenever she mentions thot her iob sucks. lt's o good technique to
use when o womon storts tolking obout ony ospect of her life thot is difficult, stressful or chollenging. You con eosily move on to
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is in the detoils. lt would hove been eosy for Dovid to soy, ,,Oh,
you're o cook ond you write, whot else do you like to do?',lnsteod of overlooking $e defoils ond osking mundone, generol quesrions,
Dovid wos oble to dig deeper into specific interests of Heidi's ond
feed them bock to her.
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HEIDI: l'm o writer ond q cook. I cook for o couple of people who ore
reolly busy. Both of my iobs ore pretty fun.
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thot kind of suck. Moybe it sucks to be woshing the dishes or cleoning o kitchen, but I olso know there ore other moments thot ore reolly stellor-momenls where you reolly hel like this is whot you were
HEIDI: I love thot feeling. Thofs q good woy ro describe whot i/s like
to be cooking o multi-course meol.
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DAVID: Somelimes l've got o zillion things going ond l,m doing one
thing with one hond ond something else with onother. There ore
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mony pots of food oll cooking ond eoch pot is cooking ot o different temperoture ond everything is going olong iust perfectly. sometimes iust get lost in the process.
Yes, thot's o wonderful feeling.
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those moments where you feel the work you ore doing is reolly turn-
ing you on?" When you osk thot question or lhe one I iust put to Heidi, the womon you're tolking to will hove to slort exploring her
life in o new woy. Let's look ol the conversotion some more.
HEIDI: Like I soid before, I reolly like to trovel, ond i/s greot thot I con
trovel so frequently. I reolly enioy meeting new people ond seeing
new ploces. Somelimes I om flying somewhere ond I think, 'lVow,
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RON: Le/s iump in ond moke some commenb obout where this conversotion is going.
DAVID: t told Heidi thot she contribures to people,s lives through her writing ond her cooking. I decided thot it wos more powerful to
look ot how she contributes to people's lives rother thon osking
om getting poid to do this." DAVID: You ore moking o contribufion lo people's lives, loo. ln both the
foods you ore cooking ond in your wriling you're moking o difference in people's heolth.
whot she likes to cook or some less personol queslion. From there
wos oble to odmire the foct
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teoching people qbout it becouse I believe the emotionol, physicol ond spirituol ospects of life ore oll connected.
do not usuolly see. We ore volidoting something thot they don,t DAVID: Thofs cool. l've done o lot of cooking myself. HEIDI: Thofs greot!
normolly ossociote with themselves. When we ocknowledge those things, like Dovid did with Heidi, we bond with the women.
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inleresled in cooking. As o generol rule, you should limit how much you shore obout yourself, ot first. lt never ceoses to omoze me how often I rediscover lhot women ore not interested in men
DAVID: l've noliced thot there is o flow when I om cooking; ifs olmost
like you're doncing with it. There is olso the moment with the presentotion where you ore octuolly putting the food out. I don't know
if you ever think obout putting the food on the plote ond how beoutiful it looks on the tqble.
could use my interest in cooking os o springboord to stort describing good feelings ossocioted with cooking. So I tolked obout how
think it is reolly importont for me to hove it bolonced visuolly ond to hove o nice color controst going on with the different foods thot ore on the plote. lt is definitely on ortistic thing ond I reolly
express myself through the presentotion of food.
good it feels to hove severol things cooking ol once ond how eosy it is to get lost in the process. RON:
Yes, thot wos
DAVID: Those moments ore reolly speciol. There is ollthe setup ond oll the preporolion, ond then you toke o second ond look ot oll the
food ond feel oll the effort you iust put into creoting somefiing wonderful. You reolize thot in 20 minutes the food will be gone,
but there is thol perfecl moment iust before you serve the food. Do
os o cook. Since you ore octuolly into cooking it wos o good move. There is no reoson to lie or even be misleoding to get
DAVID: When I menlioned oll the pots going ol once ond being in the
flow of cooking, I knew she would relole to thot description. When
she responded, I could see her eyes light up, ond she smiled.
When you ore oble conduct o Deepening Conversolion ond include the Romontic Moves, you will reolly stond oul from other men.
continue on with the conversotion ond see where it goes.
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DAVID: I con see thol ortist in you. I see the ortistry in getting the food
perfect for people ond the qrlistic presenlotion. A wonderful meol is something so creolive ond reolly gives people on experience. The right meol is so memoroble. You put together o meol, you put
in restquronls for yeors ond often hod the experience of people working together to prepore something wonderful to eot. I know
exoctly thot feeling you're tolking obout.
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feeling o sense of connection lo me, ond l'm seeing things in her life thot she doesn't get to shore with mosl people." So I osked
myself whot else in
stort by osking Megon qbout her iob, ond the conversotion unfolds
nicely from there.
she would feel those reolly good feelings? When I osked myself
MEGAN: lt's reolly importont to me to hove iobs thot inspire me. For yeors I hod o iob thot I iust loved. I wos in chorge of o smoll-town
Chomber of Commerce, ond they thrived on tourism. I hod o boll
told her, "l con see thot ortist in you." She responded positively to
thot.
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DAVID: lt sounds like there were o lot of moments in thot iob where you reolly felt like you were doing whot you were put on eorth to
do.
om not using cheesy lines with Heidi, l'm trying lrc find woys to moke o deeper conneclion.
MEGAN: Yes, I conslontly felt like lwos doing my life's work. When
hod o new ideo, everyone got behlnd it ond implemented it.
Sometimes the iob wos reolly difficuh. Sometimes the people in ihe
chopter.
community were hord lo work with or there would be unexpected problems. ln the end, however, when eoch proiect wos over, everyone wos olwoys hoppy ond I wos responsible for oll the success.
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DAVID: Thot is reolly greot. RON: Le/s iump in here. Your thoughts, Dovid? DAVID: When you're iust getting lo know o womon it often mokes
sense lc tqlk qbout sob ond gentle subiects ond then
RON: Thofs greot. I love the guiior ond l've been ploying for o long
time. I don't meet mony women who ore ospiring guitor pros.
TERRI: I iust love music.
thot hos her feel like you see somelhing in her thot most people do
nol see. Being oble tc see things in o womon thot most men don't
see creofies on emolionolconnection.
RON: I ploy guitor, so I know whot thot is like when you ore ploying
ond you get lost in the music ond you feel like "this is greot' ond
on tolking obout her iob ond on getting stort the bonding process.
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RON: Yeoh, I ployed in bonds for o long time. lwos olso o touring
musicion for o few yeors.
with Terri. Ron gets owoy with being very direct with Terri. Depending
Ron
went quickly went from tolking obout music to tolking obout the
moment where you ore ploying music ond getting lost in the process. He is looking for moments where Terri feels possionote. He is toking whot she's tolking obout, which is music, ond looking
lo her ond
whot she's possionote obout. You con get owoy with being o bod boy
when you combine moking o connection, being respectful, hoving fun ond pushing the limits oll ot once. When you only ioke oround ond only oct obnoxiously, o womon will not connect with you.
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RON: The oct of ploying music is o lot of fun. You know the feeling of
getting lost in music ond being oble to sponloneously creote something reolly bequtiful?
TERRI: Yeoh, I hove wriften some songs ond it's fun.
RON: All right, set $e mood for me. Lefls soy you invite me over to listen to you sing ond ploy guitor. Lel's soy you invite me over for o privolre listening porty, whot would the mood of it be? Whofls the
experience like for you when you ore sitting there listening to
music thot you love?
RON: Thofs greot thol you've been oble lo write music. DAVID:
Let's breok
DAVID:
point,
lost in music ond she does not reolly onswer. So he goes bock ond tries to qsk her o similor queslion. Ron disploys tenocity in thot he hos to keep guiding lhe conversoiion into romonlic spoces no mot-
RON: At this point I om trying to moke the big shift into osking for her
phone number ond/or osking for the dote. We've tolked obout
music ond I feel like our ropport is pretty good. So now I wont to
try to test her ond see how receptive she is to the ideo of me coming over to her ploce. lf she's unreceptive
toword possionote conversofions ond possionote trcpics. Eventuolly, you'll either successfully iurn lhe conversolion to something
she's
more Deepening, ond if she's open I will osk for the number. Another odvontoge of testing Terri by osking how she'd feel to hove me over lo her ploce is thot it tokes the conversotion lo o
much deeper oreo.
looking ot whot it would be like for Terri to hove him over to her
house. This is where he storts pushing the limits.
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didn't wont to go out with me my comments would sound like o
ioke. At the some time, if she is intrerested in me she knows thot
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DAVID: As you con see Ron wos working to noil down o dote with
her. He soid, "l could come over ond help you if you wont me to."
It seems like their conversotion is heoding towords o dote ond
Terri seems receptive to going out with him. She's osking Ron if he
con sing hormony ond she's wondering if he knows how to use recording equipment-oll good signs. You con olso see thot he's
not octing like o friend, lhere's o romontic feel obout lhe converso-
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ln the next chopler, we'll look ot severol more conversotions ond leorn
Advonced Deepening skills. But let's go over whot you've leqrned so for.
The Deepening process seems pretty simple when you reod obout it, but
RON: Okoy, lefs set the scene ogoin. You've invitred me to your ploce
ond you ore serenoding me ond I om wotching you closely. Thot
sounds wonderful.
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TERRI: Do you know hormony? Con you sing hormony with me?
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Deepening is to look for oreqs in o womon's life where she feels possion
ond feed it bock to her. You ore volidoting ospects of her life thot most
people do not see or qcknowledge. When you show o womon thqt she's
of the songs l've writlen. Are you good with recording equipment?
RON: l've done quite o bit of recording ond would hove fun ploying
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to insure thot you come ocross os o romonlic possibility, you need to use
the Romontic Moves. lf you hold eye conloct loo long, moke decisions quickly ond eosily, wink ot o womon, check out her body, compliment o
womon, keep your body powerful ond whisper to her, your chonces of
hoving o successful Deepening Conversotion ore greotly increosed.
Look for opportunities lo hove Deepening Conversotions ond slort
This is only o test... ln these exomples, you con see how Ron ond
Dovid were testing the womon's ottroction ond receptivity by using the
Deepening conversotionol structure to push things o little. You should do this, too.
osking some of the Deepening Questions. T Stort to qsk Vhot do you do for o living?" qnd T Vhot is it thot you find reolly touches your heort? I know some moments qre reolly difficult but $ere ore these moments where you feel like you were put here on eorlh to do thot thing. Whot ore those moments tor you?" Experiment, ond stort hoving Deepening Conversotions.o
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reolly stellor where you reolly feel like this is whot you were put on
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like to go to orl openings, ort shows ond I om o very progressive person. I like oll kinds of qrt but especiolly modern ort. I like being creolive ond I like creotive people. I olso enioy live music ond
hove o wide ronge of musicol interesfs, from clossicol to iozz ond
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RON: This is q conversotion with Sue. Note how lgo from osking her
whot she's possionote obout to moving lhe conversotion into o romonlic ond sery direction. This conversotion is o good exomple
lo ossume the best when you're with o womon. Mony of our sludents ore so used to hoving conversolions
thot they olwoys ossume the worsl. When you ossume o womqn doesn't like you ond is not enioying being with you, you come
ocross os owkwqrd ond uncomfortoble. When you're tolking to
RON: Sue, whot is it thot you ore possionote obout? You mentioned
eorlier thol you ore interested in ort ond olso into being o biker bgbe, but I om curious obout your other interests. Whot else ore you possionote obout in your life? ln Deepening, we're looking ot whot o womon is possionote obout
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romonlic topics right owoy. Mony of our sludents woit too long
before pushing conversotions in o romontic direction. Our students
often think they need to woit until the end of o conversolion to bring
inlo ort, you could osk yourself whot obout being in on orl gollery
would moke it more intimote. Perhops you imogine drinking wine ol on ort opening ond getting lost in o conversoiion. Moybe you
imogine looking ot the ort ond opprecioting its beouty. Moybe you imogine ifs on elegonl ort opening ond everyone looks so beoutiful ond you iust look ot eoch other ond smile ond feel so hoppy.
Whotrever lhe scene, you odd intimote detoils.
openings for me to osk her out. I olso wonted to osk her questions thot would quickly show me whether or not she'd be open to going out with me.
two of you ot on elegont ort opening, borh looking greot ond reol-
both of you ore storing ol the beoutiful ort on the wolls ond get-
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Now describe this scene to the womon. Yes, you eventuolly hove
to toke the risk to tolk. You need lo open your mouth ond creole
some of these situotions when tolking to lhe womon you ore with.
Advonced Deepening, you describe o sifuotion where you ond she ore
together ot o concerl or on ort museum. lnsteod of describing o fun orl
gollery or museum, you describe o scene where both of you ore ot on ort gollery or museum looking ot ort. lnsteod of describing o romontic
condlelit dinner, you describe o romonlic dinner where the two of you ore drinking wine ond hoving o greot time. Afier you hove some clues obout the things o womon is interesled in, we
recommend you follow this four-step sequence o few times during eoch Deepening Conversotion.
When you describe romonlic scenes with the two of you, il's lust one
more woy for her to stort imogining you os o potentiol lover. The process
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SUE: l'd enioy going to o concerl. l'd even enjoy iust going to o bor ond listening lo some live blues. Nothing is more fun thon hoving
fun, drinking ond doncing your feet off.
RON: You've convinced me. I om reody to toke you oul, ond we leove
tonight. l/s our secret operotion. SUE: [Loughs] I wont to explore the whole world, which is my possion. I hove o gool to trovel oround the world before I die.
RON: Well, whot qbout going on rides on the bock of o Horley? SUE: I think thot would be greot too. l'm on odventurous person ond
love bikes. So my ideo of o good time would be lo just get in the cor, or get on o bike if it is o nice night, ond iust heod out someI
RON: Where hove you troveled? I don't meet o lot of women who
reolly go for whol they wont. I meet o lot of women who wont lo
where ond moybe iusl go oll night ond foll osleep where we end
go for it, but most don'f hove the guts lo go out ond reolly do
it.
up-moybe iust sleep outside under the stors. I think thot would be
so much fun.
Ron?
RON: lwos feeling closer ond closer to osking her out. lwos hoppy
with the poce ond depth of the conversotion. Sue seemed to be
hoving o good time tolking to me ond we were bonding. I used humor to connecl with her. Turning o dote inlo o secret operotion mode it more fun ond exciting. I took the conversotion into o different direction ond in the process we both hod fun. Women like to go on odventures ond they like it when you con be ployful. When you con creote dotes fiot ore odventures, you'll
como ocro3s os seductive, romonlic ond fun.
on o dote. I om qlso osking her questions thot will hove her think of going out with me. Lostly, I om hoving fun tolking to her. Hoving fun when tolking to o womon is reolly importont. lf o conversotion is not fun i/s often o sign thot the womon is not inlerest-
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We wont to worn you oheod of time thot Louro is on odd womon, bul very ottroctive. She tolks obout wonting to simplify her life ond ot times
comes ocross like o survivolist. Are there o lot of weird women out there?
Yes!
Are there women who ore inlerested in topics you find siupid, bor-
ing ond insone? Yes! Are there women who will soy things ond give
opinions you strongly disogree with? Yes! So it's importont thot we
include some women in this book who ore o bit odd ond off-kilter since
you're likely to encounter them in your own doting life. DAVID: At the beginning I osked her whot else she would like to do in
ln tolking lo rondom women you will encounler women who seem odd
to you. We oll encounter women who soy unusuol things. Our tosk is to business. I wonted to throw o wide o net so she wouldn't feel cor-
nered by my queslions. You wonl lo osk women open-ended questions ond give them the room to respond how they wont. Since Louro mentioned thot she wos simplifying her life, I osked her obout ii. ln the bock of my mind,
horboring negotive iudgments obout her tend to get in the woy of o successful seduction. Once you're in
ospects of o womon's personolity thot bother you. lt's colled coping with
she's possiorrote obout, ond I kept osking questions until she gove
DAVID: Hi Louro, nice to see you. l'm curious-whot is your iob? LAURA: I own o smoll hotel, but I om getting out of the hotel business
to simplify my life. I olso own o computer consulting compony.
being pretty self-sufficient ond iust being oble to do whotever wont to do.
DAVID: So you reolly volue selFsufficiency, doing whot you wont to do ond toking it eosy?
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DAVID: Thot would be o reoson to stort your own business loo, to creote something you would be oble to sell ond to do exoctly whot
you wonl lo do. Tho/s cool. I don't get to meet women every doy lhot ore so direct in their lives. lt sounds greot to live somewhere beoutiful ond be oble to sit in the sun ond hove o good time.
look ot.
DAVID: Le/s iump in ogoin. ln ihe lost seclion I spent o lot of time volidoting her desire trc live in q secluded oreo ond simplify her life. I
wont her to bel odmired. ln feeding bock to her the quolities she
volues l'm seeing ports of her thot most people overlook. I om trrking
notice of whot is speciol to her ond whot is speciol obout her. I om
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lt's mode out of construction poper ond eoch poge hos onother
little foct obout my cot. I wos probobly 5 when I mode it. Loter,
when I wos Z or so, I come oul with o bigger book obout unicorns.
olso listening intently tc whot she's soying. I om lislening for useful informotion ond concenlroting on how I con turn whot she's telling me intrc more Deepening Questions.
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myself but nol usuolly when I om wriling for work. I find myself
o deodline. DAVID: Would you sqy thot you get those moments where you feel
like o little girl ogoin? You know, iust letting it oll go ond feeling
DAVID: How long hove you been writing? HEIDI: l've olwoys enioyed writing. ln foct my Mom hos these funny
little books thot I wrote when I wos o kid which she held on to. lt is
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told me obout the books she wrole os o kid. I odmired Heidi for
writing those little books. When she tolks obout her current writing
I osk her obout topping into thot little-kid energy. I om trying to focus the conversotion on feelings lhol ore open,
hoppy like o little kid. You should focus on osking women obout
the best moments in their lives, both post ond presenl.
When Heidi told me obout the books she wrole os o kid, I soid,
it's like when writing seems to flow, ond he osks her to describe those
feelings to him.
'Wow, thqt's so cool." She wos shoring something from her heort
lhere, somelhing kind of intimote. Heidi wos shoring something
HEIDI: lwish I could incorporote those feelings of freedom ond wonder more into my professionolwork. Sometimes I con, but il's reolly fun to let thot side out.
in Deepening. Whenever you con find o woy to use thot question, you'll
One lesson to leqrn from this exomple is to ovoid going into negotive
spoces with o womon, os we sow in the previous chopter. Heidi begon
DAVID: You seem like o reolly interesting womon. lt's reolly greot fiot you're doing things in life thot you're turned on by. l'm curious to
know whot you're mosl possionote obout in your writing. Do you hove those momenls like
tolking obout writer's block, which is reolly o bod feeling. lnsteod of tolk-
ing more obout writey's block ond trying to console her, Dovid simply
redirected her ottenlion. h's utter suicide lo try to fix o womon's problems. Our suggestion is to redirect her ottention.
HEIDI: Yes, lgo through periods like thot. I feelthotwoywhen l'm not
thinking obout the finol product, not thinking obout whot I need to
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do. I feel reolly hoppy when l'm qble to iust enioy the process-
"Oh, writcr's block sounds terrible. Tell me more obout it. Wow, thot
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DAVID: Tho/s interesting, Heidi. I don't get to meet o lot of women who ore thot creotive. lfls fun lo heor obout your writing. HEIDI: Thonks, I love thot kind of writing. I reolly enioy observing
people ond leorn o lot from wotching people.
oboul o writer who hod writer's block ond she hod to be put into o psych
word
do you think thqt would ever hoppen to you?" Bob stupidly thinks
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DAVID: Are you observing me right now? No, not ot oll. DAVID: Now l'm scored. Uokinglyl HEIDI: lwrite some poetry but l've never hod ony published. I don't
usuolly shore my poetry with people; i/s iust o privote thing.
Rother thon hove Heidi tolk obout whofs not working in her life or how often she hos wriler's block, Dovid chonges the subiect ond osks her whot
else she likes to wrile obout ond if she writes poetry. When he osks her
DAVID: Moybe if we get to know eoch other better o time will come
when you will wont to shore some poetqy with me. I understond moybe now is not the right time to shore it.
Do you write poetry?
questions obout whot she likes in her life he shows thot he's interested in
her, but he's not giving energy to the depressing things she's tolking oboul. He is responding by guiding lhe conversotion into o positive direction. Your iob is to guide conversolions inlo romonlic ond intimotre spoces
ond qvoid topics where o womon is likely to get depressed or feel poin.
ifs like to be in the flow like you were tolking obout eorlier. Where
DAVID: Whol gives you the most ioy in writing? Heidi: I like to go to coffee shops ond observe people. I love to eovesdrop on people. lt's fun for me to iust stort writing obout the person l'm observing ond imogine
you foel like the words ore iust flowing through you ond it bels like you're in the donce of writing. Those ore moments when you fuel like you reoch beyond whot you're normolly oble to reoch ond you come
up wit*r moteriol thot is better thon who you know yourself to be. Yes, I know thot feeling very well.
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something briefly through your eyes ond iust know whot it is like
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importonl. lf you ore describing how greot it feels to be in the flow of writing you might soy, "l feel so good when I om there ond the energy is lust flowing through me ond the words ore iust flowing through me." h's o lot more powerful to soy, "li feels so good when you ore there ond you ore writing ond the words ore iust flowing through you ond you feel so connected to something lorger thon yourself, do you know whot I meon?" I wos iust describing
with Heidi. The conversotion storted off plolul ond eosy ond now
it's getting much more intimote ond intense. Dovid's doing o good
iob hoving o heorl-to-heort tolk with Heidi. DAVID: I storted out thot section offirming her. I told her I don't get to
meel o lot of women who qre os creotive os she is.
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thot feeling os if she is hoving it. My hope is fiot when I use you
stotemenls she'll soy to herself, "lt's omozing thot I om with this
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up the lopic of going out with me in o fun, holFioking woy. One thing to notice is thot Ron ond I use o lot of "you" stoiements. ln the most evocotive visuqlizotions, lhe person tolking does his
best to include the listener in the sifuotion he is describing. For
Eorlier in this book we tolked obout the power of describing romonlic scenes ond situotions to women. We told you thot whot you describe lo o womon is whot she will feel. When you describe romontic scenes o womon hos to go inside herself ond experience
those feelings.
exomple, 'You see yourself wolking down the sloirs"; 'You see lhe
things oround you";'You feel this." All of these exomples use
feelings is io osk o womon Romontic Questions. When o womon onswers Romontic Questions ond describes o romontic situqtion to
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Romontic Questions thot invoke o romontic response from o
KATIE: Well, octuolly, I gol it when lwos troveling. I wos bockpocking through Bonglodesh ond there wos someone selling iewelry ond this ring is octuolly q Celtic symbol. lt looked reolly cool so bought it.
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DAVID: I would like to know more oboul you. Moybe I could reod
some of your writing somelime. Whot would it be like if we got
together for o cup of coffee sometime ond lust tolked more obout
wonl you to keep on eye on how oll the conversolionol modes you're leorning in this book oll fit together. RON: Whqt mode you decide to go to Bonglodesh? Whot did you do
there?
KATIE: I iust wonted to visit o ploce for owoy in o totolly different culture. I wonted to go on o chollenging iourney thot wos different from my normol life.
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thot kind of level. l/s reolly cool thot you went there. How long
RON: l'm doing greot todoy. Your ring coughl my otlention. lt looks
reolly interesting, whofs the story behind it?
were you in Bonglodesh? KATIE: I woc lhere for obout three months.
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soid thot you hove o Celtic ring? KATIE: lt's o Celtic symbol of on eternol knot.
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trovel?
of the trip wos meeting new people. I mode o lot of speciol connections.
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RON: Did you hove ony experiences thot kind of iust sticks in your heort? Do you recoll experiences thqt ore postcord moments thot
you'll remember for the rest of your life? l'd be curious lo know if you hod experiences ond moments like thot. DAVID:
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her iewelry. Touching o womon in non-inlrusive woys is greot in building up to osking for o dqte. Ron seizes the opportunity to
moke things more physicol with Kotie by touching her ring.
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thot Ron is toking this seemingly mundone conversotion thot hos nothing romontic in it ond progressively toking it to deeper levels
of Deepening is osking questions to find out whot o womon volues. From there,
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of yourself come out. Do you know whot I meqn? KATIE: Yes, tho/s one of the moin reosons I love to see new ploces.
whot touches your heort the most?" Then I osked her, 'lVhot ore
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don't olwoys tolk obout upbeot subiects so you need to leorn how
to furn negotive lopics into positive ones.
You con hondle negolive lopics by osking ony of the following questions:
RON: Wos ihere o good port to thot crisis? Like feeling thot you hove o deeper oppreciotion for life? Whot wos the most positive thing
you wolked owoy from thot experience feeling?
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otive directions before. We told you thot il's imporlont to redirect conversolions inlo more positive topics. When Kotie mentioned she
versolion to o different topic ond keep focused on building his ropport with Kotie.
ond putling myself out $ere. l'm glod I hod such on intense experience in Bonglodesh.
RON: I noticed thot Kotie wos running the horrible scene of borely
escoping o mudslide in through mind. I didn't wont her to feel the
RON: I con see in tolking with you thotyou reolly push yourself ond
live life on
fie edge.
bod feelings ossocioted with thot experience, so I took the conversotion in q different direction. I wosn'l sure whol to soy to her, but
I come bock with,
the foce of uncertointy. I reolly odmire how you live life fully.
RON: One thing I noticed in tolking to Kotie is thot she pushes herself lo try new things ond is reolly courogeous qnd odventurous. ln
Deepening I om looking for whot she is possionote obout ond
whot she volues, so I wonted lo let her know thot I see her os o
gutsy womon. I olso complimented in o woy thot wos deeply personol ond intimote. Let's look ol some more.
DAVID: lf you hod let Kotie keep tolking obout the mudslide it could
hove become o depressing. She might hove soid, "Kids died in
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Here's o good phrose to use when osking o womqn for her num-
ofbr whot you wont. Like when you meet someone you con connect with or you feel like they open their heort to you in o certoin
ber: "h/s been nice tolking to you, perhops we con get together
sometime ond tolk obout this some more." You don't need onyI
woy. There is something reolly speciol obout being open like thot.
thing foncy or speciol. You don't need o perfect line, you iust need to open your mouth ond qsk her out. After you hove her phone
number or emoil oddress you con set up the coffee dote.
RON: lt's been greot to meet you, but I need to run in o second.
Moybe we could get together for o cup of coffee sometime ond tolk some more. Kolie: Sure, thot would be greot. Moybe you could tell me obout your trovel experiences.
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the conversotion goes well ond sometimes you flot on your foce.
she's
Those guys ore ierks. I wonl my money bockl" Bob foils to reolize thot mosl conversotions with women will not leod to getting o phone number, let olone sex. Bob's so focused on finding o mogicol solution to getting
high point. I thought thot if she wosn't willing lo go out with me ofter tolking for so long it wos unlikely thot she'd give me her number if we tolked ony longer.
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womon.
gressing from there. lf you ore willing to do the work ond be potient,
success is inevitoble.
Bob ossumes thol every womon he tolks to will hote him ond thot every interoction will go poorly. When he tolks to women ond osks Deepening
Questions his certointy thot the interoclion will go poorly comes ocross
in his fone of voice ond his presence. Becouse Bob is so cerloin his conversotions will go poorly, he comes qcross os ongry ond meqn.
ln Advonced Deepening you ore describing scenes where you ond your
conversolionol portner ore together in the scene. You con teoch yourself to ossume ropport by reminding yourself thot
For inslonce, insteod of describing o greot concerl, describe o sifuotion
women ore interested in tolking lo you ond find you otlroclive. You con
tell yourself thot the interoclion is going well. When you ossume women
where you ond she ore ot o concert together hoving o wonderful time. When you describe romontic scenes with the two of you, o womon will
hqve to go inside ond imogine thot picture of the two of you together. By
like you, you will not only feel more confident ond more reloxed, you
romontic possibility.
osking open-ended questions before. You need to cosl the widest net We reolize thot including yourself when describing scenes to women con
be confusing. l/s o new skill thot you need lo procfice. Try writing out
polentiol conversolions ond proctice osking questions out loud ot home.
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BOB: Oh, so you must reolly hote your iob since you hove to work so
much. I hote iobs where they force you to work overlime ond don't
is so cought up with his own thoughts ond concerns thot tolking to o womon is o stressful, horrible offoir. Bob is too ofroid
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ond so he folls deeper into o feor spirol. He is too ofroid to shore onything obout himself, mention onything he considers funny or osk ony
quesiions thot ore romontic. His feor creoles o situotion thot is unpleos-
poy you.
Trying to be perfect Asking questions thot you don'l core onything obout Never shoring onything obout yourself
Bob not only osks yes-or-no queslions, he orgues with the womon's
response rother thon encouroging her to tqlk. Don't box women into
onswering yes-or-no questions or questions thot limit their options. Ask open-ended questions so thot lorger conversotions con develop.
hoving fun? The onswer is cleor: men who ore oble to enioy themselves
ore much more otlroctive thon guys who ore uptight ond worried.
Women's bullshit detectors ore much more ottuned lhon ore men's.
Women know when you're nol interested in tolking to them, when you're neryous ond when you're not hoving fun. So we strongly recommend you find fun woys lo moke conversotions with women fun. Bring up topics thot ore enioyoble for you. Mention things you find funny. Ask ques-
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be more reloxed ond more fun to be oround. Fun ottrocts more fun; feor tends to creole more feqr.
Don't push too hqrd. You do not need to push women inlo sexuol or romontic tolk. The purpose of Deepening is often iust to bond.
Without the foundotion of bonding there is no hope of turning things
sexuol. lf you skip this eorly work you'll foil miserobly loter on. The gool
Don'l be o strqngea
of Deepening is trc creole o bond, develop ropport ond loy the groundwork for osking for o number. Sometimes the conversotion turns romontic; other times ifs much lighter. ln either cose $e gool is to move from being o stronger to creoting enough of o connection to toke the next step.
detoils she's shoring with you she wouldn't normolly shore with o
stronger. These ore detoils you wonl to ocknowledge.
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womon thot mokes her feel thot you see some$ing in her to which most people ore not privy. When you ore oble to see things in her thot most
men don't see, intimocy is creoted. When you stort creoting emotionol connections, she'll wont to connect more deeply with you.
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encounter women who soy unusuol things. lf she's worth pursuing, slop
focusing on the unusuol ospecls of her personolity. Once you ore in o relotionship, you need lo ignore the ospects of o womon's personolity thot bother you. lfs colled coping with the horsh reolity.
Admire her.
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word "you." lfs very useful to describe things from e "you" point of view, ie, 'Yeo, I think i/s so greqt when you ore hoving o perfect doy, ond you
con iust breothe in ond reolly feel good obout whot you've occomplished."
edge. You ore looking for times in her life when she felt best, moments
she's mosl proud of, her occomplishments ond her possions. Ask women
Tolking to women is oll obout getting them to feel things, visuolize things
obout greot moments in their post ond greol momenls in their current
ond imogine things. Thot's why using fie "you" perspeclive in your
speoking is so importont. Toking on o "you" perspective might toke some
life. Two greot questions to use ore 'lVhot ore you mosl possionole
oboul?" ond 'Whot ore the postcord moments thot you will remember for the rest of yovr li[e?"
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You need to shut up long enough for them to respond. A good rule of thumb is they should tolk Z0 percent of the time, you should tolk 30 percenl of the time.
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Tolking to women is like fishing. lf the first question you osk o womon
When o womon osks Bob whot he's possionote obout in his life he
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Deepening you ore fishing by osking queslions ond finding out whot
she's possionote obout. Once you gei o strong response from he4 osk more queslions ond feed bock more situotions to her. Just like with fish-
screen resolution it hos, ond how the competitoy's version sucks. Bob goes
off on
ing, you're potiently woiting for o bite. Once you gel one, you quickly
Bod move. Jusl give o short response oboul yourself ond then osk oddi-
go for it ond get her tolking obod whot she's possionote oboul.
When you con touch o womon os port of o Deepening Conversotion you ore helping escolote the seduction. Mosl men woit until the end of o dote
before doing onything physicol. During Deepening Conversolions, however, lhere ore often openings for touch. When osking o womon obout
Conversolions it's cruciol thot she tolks more thon you do. When you're
hoving o Deepening Conversotion, shut your pie hole while she onswers your question. Don't interrupl o womon when she's tolking. lnsteod, listen ond trrke time to construct
her ring, for exomple, you could touch her hond. When sitting next to o womon, you could "occidentolly'' brush ogoinst her orm.
bosed on whot she's iust told you or o question thoi evokes more infor-
motion from her. When you touch o womon, do so gently ond os unobtrusively os possi-
ble. lf o womon reocls negotively, thot is o sign to slow the seduction down. lf o womon seems open to fouching, ifls o sign to go for fie next
level of touching or kissing.
brogs obout his Aloskon cruise. Bob constontly interrupls women when
fiey're telling him key informotion. Rother thon listen, Bob enioys offering his opinions on whot o womon is telling him. When Jennifer told him obout the besl ports of her iob, he lectured her on why she should quit her iob ond find o higher-poying profession.
When the conversotion goes downhill. Severol times during this chopter we mentioned how importont it is to ovoid tolking obout
depresing topics. When o womon slorls tolking obout bod experiences
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Progrom, the Goodbye lntroduction, 'lVhot's the siory behind lhol?", Situotionol Flirting, ond Deepening. Procticing eoch of these conversotionol tools will give you the power you need to initiote with women, lo
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thoughts-ond possibly their romonlic ottention-to you. Now you're reody to odd onother skill to the mix: osking Romontic
Questions. Romontic Questions build on the tools you olreody hove to
toke your conversotions wilh women to on even deeper ond more seduc-
lion, or though ony olher sociol meons thot gets you tolking to onother
humon being. From there you toke some deeper risks, doing the flirting
moves lo get yourself out of the "friends" zone, osking
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gusting things hos on effect on someone's inlernol emolionol slote. You The clossic exomple of this phenomenon involves describing on elephont. lt is huge, it hos big white tusks, groy skin, o long trunk ond big floppy eors. ln order to understond this description, you hod to imogine whot we were describing, ot leost to some extent. Even if you wonted to
resist us ond decided thot, no motler whot, you were nol going lo imog-
DAVID: Just lost night I wos doing some lnternet flirting. lwos osking
o womon oboul romonlic experiences she hqd hod ond out of the blue she storted into this tirode obout obortion ond how bod
shouldn't imogine. This is o bosic principle of how the mind works: if you describe something to someone, ihey outomoticolly imogine it.
obortion is ond how she is totolly ogoinst it. Now one thing
This little quirk in the humon mind reolly works in your fovor when you
could hove done wos fight with her qbout it, bul olreody she wos imoging oll this horrible stuff obout obortion in her heod ond feel-
tolk to women becouse it doesn't only work if you describe things like
elephonts. lt olso works if you describe experiences like love, romonce, seduction ond orousol. lf we were
ing her feelings obout it. Fighting would only hove mode il worse.
I could olso hove osked her not to think obout it, but she still
So I let her soy whot she hod to soy ond then I come bock with
This is your occess into the emotionol being of o \ /omon. lf you ore tolk"L,el's
tqlk more obout doting. Le/s ilrlk more obout romonlic experi-
ing to o womon ond describing romontic experiences, erotic experiences or emotionol experiences, she is going to hove to go into her mind
ences. Le/s tolk obout how the heort opens up with someone who
you reolly bel connected fic." Those were the kind of experiences
ond experience those experiences iust to trock with the conversotion. When o womon hos those feelings while she is looking ol you then you
ore hoving o romontic interoclion.
wonfed us to be trclking obout so she would be hoving lhose romontic experiences inside ond connect them to me, rother thon hwing her think obout obortion ond connecting thot to me. And it worked;
she got off her obortion tirode ond we hod o greot romontic tolk.
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Her mind become filled with unpleosont pictures while she wos interocting with you ond before you knew it, the romontic vibe wos gone.
into o Romontic Conversotion. The first step is understonding the structure of Romontic Questions.
You might even hove coused the problem. Perhops you tolked obout things you didn't even reolize you were tolking obouf perhops you tolked obout porn or wor or something else thot, when she imogined it, reolly turned her off. Sometimes it con be o lot subtler thon you reolize.
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With women, you reolly don't know whot is going to hoppen; you hove
to sloy owoke, be presenl ond poy ottention to the conversotionol topics thot turn her on ond the things thot turn her off.
The description The excuse
We will get into the specifics of using romonlic descriptions with women,
but here's the bottom line obout how we use them: through tolking, ques-
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iioning ond listening, we look for things thol women ore possionote
obod ond volue. We then either get women to describe the feelings of
those possions ond volues lo us or we describe them to the women. They
THE EXCUSE. When you osk o womon q Romontic Question, you need to slorl with on excuse. The excuse onswers the question the womon will be osking herself obout your question, which is '!Vhy is he osking me
this?" lf you con onswer thot question right owoy with your excuse, il will
qre then oble to experience ond dwell on those feelings while being with
us. This creotes o very reol ond romonlic connection.
Success with women isn't totolly obout whot you look like, whot you do
or how much money you moke, even though those things ore obviously
foctors. Success with women is qbout how you moke women feel*thot's
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womon to the kind of onswer you ore looking for. lt olso describes the
kind of feelings you wont her to imogine hoving while she is onswering
the question.
them or when you toke the conversotion inlo deeper, riskier territory.
Remember, these questions ore
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When you osk o Romontic Question, the excuse onswers the question
friends obout this ond sort of toking on informol survey. lt seems like
sometimes you meet someone ond lhere's iust
'Why is he soying this trc me?" lt gives her o context for whot you're osking, which helps o womqn relox into the interoction.
on immediote click, do
you know whot I meon? Like, 'Oh, i/s you,' even though you've never
met before. So l've been wondering, do you think people con foll in love
A Romontic Question stonding on its own con seem invosive ond scory
but when you odd on excuse ond description, olmost ony question con become polotoble.
ot first sight?"
you wont your conversotionol portner to feel ond olso guides her toword
Lefls
try this out on one of the tockiest questions you cqn osk o womon:
the kind of onswer you ore looking for. Agoin, i/s worth noting thot even
"Do you believe in love ot first sight?" You'll probobly ogree with us thot
most women would think of this os o hockneyed line, which
see
o tocky question con slort seeming downright interesting when you odd
on excuse ond description to it.
think would moke it eosier for o womon lo relox ond onswer: "Hey, do
in our exomple, "Do you think people con foll in love ot first sight?"
Once ogoin, lefs look ot the Romontic Question in its entirety. Notice how much more normol-sounding ond less tocky the question is when
the excuse ond description ore in ploce. Then think obout how well this
We qren't recommending such on overused line, but the second version of this question would be eosier for o womon to onswer. Thol's becouse
it hos on excuse ottoched to it. The womon con soy to herself, "Oh, he's osking me this becouse he's been tolking oboui it to his friends. Okoy."
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sion lust builds in you ond you feel it so intensely in your heort. l'd be curious to know, whot mokes your heort flutter? Whot's on exomple in
immediote click, do you know whot I meon? Like, 'Oh, ifs you,' even
though you've never mel before. So l've been wondering, do you think people con foll in love ot first sight?"
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When you osk o Romontic Question, you ore toking things to o more
intimote level. You need to be respectful of thot foct, by setting up your
queslions in the most non-invosive woy thot you con. The woy you do
E EXC U S E. "l wos thinking the other doy obout how omozing it is to
be moved to the point where your heort flutters." Thol onswers the ques-
tion 'lVhy is he osking me this?" You were thinking obout it the other
doy, tho/s why you're osking obout it.
THE DESCRIPTION. "lt's like the possion iust builds in you ond you feel
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it so intensely in your heorl." You describe whot you wont her to experience so she hos to go inside ond experience thot description, ot leost o little bit. This olso guides her into the kind of onswer you're looking for.
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ter? Whofs on exomple in your life of thot?" Now she knows why you
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You don't iust osk thot question outright becouse it would sound owkthe kind of emotionol, romoniic onswer you're looking for.
word ond weird. You'd dump her right into her sofety queslions: 'tVhy
is he soying this to me? Who/s he going to do to me?" You need lo set up your question with our three-step process.
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THE ROMANTIC QUESTION: "Hove you ever met someone ond felt
like you were meeling them ogoin for the first lime?"
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them before?" When you put it this woy it doesn't sound like o corny pickup line, which it would if you osked it stroight out. Asking in this woy
You might soy: "l wos tolking to some friends the other night over din-
gives her the opportunity to shore obout herself ond her experiences of feeling
ner ond we were tolking obout the feeling of when you meet someone ond feel like you've known them before. One person wos reolly into the post-life thing, ond I wosn'f sure whot to think obout thot. l've certoinly hod those experiences where you meel someone ond you look ot them
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be curious to know, if you'd be willing to shore obout it, hove you ever mel someone ond felt like you've met them before?"
THE ROMANTIC QUESTION: 'lVhotwos it like the first time you hod
o crush on someone?"
THE EXCUSE. "lwqs tolking to some friends the o$er night over dinner ond we were tolking obout the feeling of when you meel someone ond feel like you've known them before." You were tolking obout it with friends the other night, so lhere's o reoson it's on your mind.
But let's odd on excuse ond description ond see how it sounds: "l wos
tolking to o buddy from high school who I hodn't seen in o long time. We were looking bock on high school ond tolking obout first loves ond
crushes ond how fun ond exciting it wos. lt wos this new, tender ond
exciting feeling of being so excited ond turned on ond reolly into some-
THE DESCRIPTION. "One person wos reolly into the post-life thing,
ond I wosn't sure whot to think obout thol. l've certoinly hod those experiences where you meet someone ond you look ot them ond you feel like
one, you know? I wonder if you con recoll the first time you reolized you
you've known them before. l/s like you're meeling $em ogoin, rother
thon for the first lime." This description is greot becouse it runs
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three ports:
o little
THE EXCUSE. "lwos tolking to o buddy from high schoolwho I hodn't
seen in o long time. We were looking bock on high school ond tolking
visuolizotion on her ond reolly points o word picture of the kind of feeling you wont her to experience os she looks ot you. lt will olso guide her
obout first loves ond crushes ond how fun ond exciting it wos."
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you hod o crush on someone. Whot wos thot like for you?"
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troveling to Jomqico. And I thought, 'Gosh, thot sounds like o reolly greot
lime.' l've never been there. lt looked so greot. The cleor woter, being
oble to see the fish under the woler in o gloss-bottom boot or going snorkeling ond hoving on incredible vocotion. lt got me thinking ond osking people obout their ideol vocotion. So l'd be curious to know, if you'd be
Try this insteod: "lwos tolking to my friend Tonyo the other doy ond we
were tolking obout kissing. We were tolking obout the mogic of kissing
willing to shore, whot's your ideol vocqtion? lt con be one you've been
on or moybe one you'd like to go on. l'd iust be curious to know."
ond the mogicol moments thot occur during o kiss. There is o moment
when you close your eyes. There's the moment when your lips first touch. There is o moment when your longues first entwine. lt's oll so omozing.
THE EXCUSE. "lwos wotching TV the other night ond I sow on od for troveling lo Jomoico. And I thought, 'Gosh, thqt sounds like greot lime."'
This is obviously o more intense question thon the o$ers. You ore bring-
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o womon obout them becouse her onswer to
oppropriote to heot things up o bit. This is o greot woy lo do thot. At the right moment, this question could reolly work for you. You might odd in
lot obout how she likes to be seduced. lt'll provide informotion you will
find useful on doles with her. lt'll olso get her describing ond feeling
some of her fqvorite romonlic feelings, while looking ot you.
o whisper or get closer to her eor. lt might turn inlo o very sensuol
momenl. This might even turn into o kiss.
So here's whot you might osk: "l om usuolly into oction films myself, but Here ore the three ports:
lotely l've been looking ol some more romontic films. Somelimes I see
movies thot hove such
THE EXCUSE. "lwos tolking to my friend Tonyo the other doy ond we were tolking obout kissing. We were tolking obout the mogic of kissing qnd the mogicol moments thot occur during o kiss."
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in o kiss?" THE DESCRIPTION. "somelimes lsee movies thot hove such o romon-
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QUESTION: How intimote should the questions be? ANSWER: As you've no doubt noticed, the questions vory in intensity
from relotively low-risk questions like 'lVho/s o speciol ploce you
romontic for the first time con reolly be so incredibly moving. So l'm wondering, if you would core io shore, whot v/os your first kiss like?"
vise these questions, you'll come up with ones thot ore even milder
ond others thot ore even riskier. You decide how intimote o ques-
lion to osk by ossessing two things: how things ore going with the
THE DESCRIPTION. "Everybody hos o first-kiss story-thot feeling of womon ond the level of risk you wont to toke. Mosl of the time, you'll wont to stort with the lower-risk questions,
doing something so romontic for the firsl time con reolly be so incredibly moving."
ond, os thot goes well, move up to the higher-risk questions. lf you're feeling especiolly bollsy, you con move up to the higher-risk
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You con tell thot you qre risking too much if you find yourself leov-
There's some subtlety to it, but it's not rockel science or broin surgery (or,
ing out the excuse ond description ports of the Romoniic Question.
os one of our students colled it, "rocket surgery''f . You ore not iust hiF ting on someone. You ore developing o connection with her. You ore creoting o connection bosed on things she cores obout, things she hos possion obout.
When guys get tense, lhey tend to leove out the excuse ond the
description ond iust go to the question. lf thot hoppens lo you, you
need to slow down, loke some deep breoths ond osk o lower-risk
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A: This hoppens oll the time, ond you should be reody for it. For
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romqnlic dote?" ond she onswers you ond osks you the some
question bock, you need to onswer her. Simply describe o dote
risking moking things reolly weird for you both by osking something too inlense out of the blue.
thot sounds reolly romontic lo you. There's no big trick to it; iust tolk obout o situotion thot sounds romontic to you. lf you con use your words to point o picture for the two of you trcgether, fiot's
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You'll see exomples of how we use Romonlic Questions in the diologs lhot ore coming up in this book, but the short onswer is this: pepper them in. Romontic Queslions ore not the sole focus of
your discussion. You tolk oboul the weother, lhe news, you do
some of the Flirting Moves, osk her obout her iob ond throw in
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thing ond describe something romontic thot she would olso enioy.
our students hove is dropping out the excuse ond the description Q: Won't showing my romonlic interesl be emborrossing for us both?
It's true thot if you use Romonlic Questions properly she'll know
mony Romontic Questions. Hoving soid thot, it will probobly feel owkword the first few fimes you osk one of these questions. As you proctice, you moy leove
some intreroctions with women feeling os if you osked too mony Romontic Questions or worrying thot you overwhelmed her with
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heort. Remember, thol meons you hove to leorn oll three ports of lhe queslion: the excuse, the description ond the question itself.
Second, proclice speoking the entire Romontic Question out loud.
it is most nofurol ic improvise new excuses ond descriptions lo go with the Romontic Queslions you intend to osk. ln time, you'll be oble
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life. Your curiosity obout her will guide you in spontrrneously creot-
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As we'll see in the next chopter, osking Romontic Questions leods notu-
rolly lo osking her for her phone number ond emoil oddress. Asking
Romontic Questions noturolly segues into both of you wonting to hove o dote. Asking Romqnlic Questions noturolly segues into hoving o womon
like smiling, holding eye contoct ond winking ot her, oll perhops in
the contexl of doing some Situolionol Flirting. Perhops you've osked her 'lVhot's the story behind thot?" obout her neckloce ond thot's generoted some shoring conversotions. Things ore going
think of you in romontic lerms. On your dotes, you con osk Romontic
Questions to deepen into the feelings of romonce. Romontic Questions
well. Then osk your Romontic Question. Moke your excuse, give your description ond osk owoy. Voild!
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The cool port obout osking Romontic Questions is thot, once ogoin, ifs
not qbout bomboozling, hypnotizing, tricking, or scomming on women. Romontic Queslions ore o woy for you
womon, to get inlo her world ond to moke o reol connection. When you
osk
For eoch one of these exomples we'll give you the diolog ond breok in
process
find out whot kind of connection con exisl between the two of you.
occosionolly with some ploy by ploy so you con know whot wos going
As you reod these diologs, remember: you ore only getting the text of
the conversotions. You oren't getling the unspoken sociql cues thot go olong with lhem, so let's bring you up to speed: during oll of these conversotions we ore smiling ond our voices ore friendly. Sometimes in
these diologs we moy soy things thot would seem confrontotionol if they
were soid in on ongry or horsh monner. But they're fine here becouse
our monner is light ond ployful. For instonce, ot one point Ron soys lc o womon, "So you con relote lo lhe women who wos morried, yet she wos sleeping with somebody else?" As you'll see in the diolog below, the womon Ron wos tolking to didnt toke whot he sqid the wrong woy. Thot
wos becouse he wos smiling, they were hoving o good time together ond it wqs cleqr to her thot he wos joking with her, not insulting
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we were wondering. Somelimes it seems like o dote is reolly going greol, there's greot flow ond things seem to reolly be cooking ond you feel incredibly speciol. So I wqs wondering: whot is it like when you feelvery speciol on o dote?
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Do you hove ony questions for me? TERRI: Yes, why ore you here?
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wos iust on o dote lost week ond it wos wonderful becouse the
RON: Okoy, cool. So you ore the kind of women who likes it when o
guy tokes chorge of the conversotion yet includes you?
TERRI: Oh yes, obsolutely.
RON: Well, I believe thot things hoppen for o reqson. Don't you think
thol's true? TERRI: Yes.
RON: So you wont him to soy things like'You look beoutiful" or "You
know I con'l woil Io," you know, or "l would love to kiss you"?
Thot sort of thing? TERRI: Yes, the otlention ond the openness.
RON: So I think this wos o good thing thotwe ore meeling ond tolking, ond I think moybe it wos meont to be. So from where I om siF
ting, moybe we could tolk ogoin. I would love to coll you ond go
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out for coffee ond iust hove the fun continue becouse I would hote for this lo be o one-time thing.
TERRI: All right, do you wonl my number?
Lefs breok in here ond toke o look ol our story so [or. Ron is reolly doing
well wiih Terri. He got the question out ond she is reolly giving him some informotion. As you reod this you should be osking yourself: whot is Terri reveoling obout herself thot might help in the seduclion? Ron hos leorned thot she is reolly turned on by
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TERRI: Well, I think you con memorize if you ore reolly poying otten-
toble, so he puts thot doto point into his mind ond he'll use thot loter. He'll leon forword ond show interest os soon os he con.
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ten these flirting diologs to moke them letter-perfect becouse thofs not
guys who will shore obout themselves, so he osks her "Do you hove ony
questions for me?" to show her thot he is open to shoring obout himself.
You'll see thot ifs not necessory for Romontic Conversotions to be perfect for flirting ond seduclion lo work. As you proctice you'll hove more
'lVhol ore you doing here?" Very often, when o womon does something like this, i/s qn invitqtion to be
She come bock with o silly question,
ond wos oble to ploy with whot she soid. He mode o ioke ond it went over well. He wos willing to iust open up his mouth ond soy whqtever come oul ond hove it be oll right. Remember whot we've soid before:
women ore looking to you lo see how well the inleroclion is going. lf you
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something thot is going to moke her melt with romontic feelings, like o question obout her mosi romontic dote might, but it is olso low-risk ond
RON: ln lhe end, it seemed reolly noturol to osk for the phone number.
meon, il wos
get trc know her better so I osked her if she would like to go out. lt
So often our students worry loo much during flirting interoctions. They
seem lo think, '1vell, I wqnt to do it perfectly, so every word needs to
RON: l've been thinking obout the ploces thot I like to go for odventures. You
reolly speciol, fun, exciting ond owoy from your normol doily life.
So if I wos toking you oul whot kind of on odventure would be
Thot simply isn't lrue. As you reod fiese flirting inlerocfions, we hope
you're storting to understond thot flirting is nol o motler of "doing it perfectly." ll's o motter of showing up, risking, being curious, committing
yourself to being o source of certointy thot it's going to be okoy ond hov-
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mountoins or hos it been more oround here? TERRI: l've hiked in Howoii ond Alqsko but most of my hiking hos been in Wisconsin. There ore no mounloins here.
odmires her odventuresome spirit. Tho/s o greot move-we ore olwoys looking for something we con odmire obout the women we ore flirting
Terqy.
RON: The other thing thot I keep osking myself is'lVhot trcpic hos the
iuice?" lt doesn't motter if I om not interested in Alosko or if I om not
interested in troveling; i/s whot lights her up, il's whot gets her going
trc
me. And if it reolly does light her up, it will ultimotely get me inter-
the stort.
Let's look ot the rest of this conversotion. Notice how Ron hos fun with
RON: I don't get to meet o lot of women who ore such serious go-geF
lers or hqve thot much guls, so I reolly odmire thot obout you, thot
coost, you come ocross o sign thot soys, 'Tidol wove level, stoy
obove this sign." And you hope thot lhere's no tidol wove coming.
Le/s iump in here ogoin ond tolk obout how Ron is doing, flirting with Terri. Ron is reolly curious, ond his curiosity reolly helps guide him in the
conversolion ond helps the conversotion unfold eosily. For instonce, when Terri tolks obout her trip to Alosko, Ron gets curious ond osks,
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'lVhot wos thot like?" Thqt gives her more opportunity to shore obout
something she cores obout. Ron then compliments her by telling her thot he doesn'l get to meet women like her very often ond telling her
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RON: Well, thonk you for being honesl-we finolly get on honest
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URSULA: Someone who fully enioys it with me ond who is reolly with
of being willing to be
me. Becouse some people hove sex ond they ore not reolly with
plolul with o
Conversotions.
womon ond
you, but there is this other thing where you're reolly tuned into
eoch other ond you ore tololly communicoling with your entire
body, including your eyes, ond speoking ond everything, ond you
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you experienced thqt? RON: URSULA: I hove too. I meon, thot is the one time I reolly feel reolly
tor you?"
RON: I wos ot o dinner porty o couple doys ogo ond there were o lot
of people ond we storted tolking obout moments when people felt
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tolking obout whot it is like when she is on o dote ond how she
feels free lo iust be herself, to moybe kiss o guy out of the blue or
hoving fun. You con tell Ron is noi going to end up iust o friend with this womon.
to soy whotever it is she wonls lo soy. l'd be curious to know, if you core lo shore-whot's o totolly corefree experience for you? URSULA: Moking love.
RON: lwqs shocked with the onswer she gove me to the question-l
hod no ideo thot she wos going to respond with something so sex-
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CAROL: [Loughs] I iust love fiot, when you ore reolly communicoting with somebody ond you ore getting into the conversolion ond it
just goes deeper ond deeper ond you ore reolly tolking heort to
heort ond you feel completely with the other person, inside the olher person, ond ogoin, it is iust thot greot thing where oll of o
sudden everybody else ot the porty iust disoppeors ond iust the
two of you ore suddenly there by yourself even though there is this
big bunch of noise going on oround you. h's like oll of o sudden
il's very quiel.
DAVID: Very cool. DAVID: l've been sod of conducting on informol survey obout this ond
i/s led to some pretty inleresting conversotions. For whotever reoson, lhere ore limes when you feel reolly connected to someone
CAROL: Yes, ond thot is iust on ideol kind of thing to hove in o relotionship.
else-it moy not be sexuol, it could be onyrvhere, but you iust for
whqlever reoson feel reolly connecled ond reolly possionote. So
This went reolly greot. This womon is very responsive. Corol described
l'd like to osk you: whol ore some moments in your life where you
feel intensely possionote ond reolly connected to somebody else?
the kind of moment where she wos oble to feel possionotely connected,
ond it wos fun ond it creoted o greol, romonlic feeling between the two
of them. She olso gove Dovid some greot informolion: she kept empho-
CAROL: I iust love it when you ore hoving o reolly deep conversotion with somebody ond everything else tunes out. I meon, it con hoppen ot o porty, for instonce. There con be oll kinds of people
sizing the imporlonce of o mon being with her. Dovid will be oble to use this informotion in building o connection with her, ond use thot phrose when he describes fiot experience to her. He con tell her how importont
oround you, ond noise, or ii could be iust the two of you qlone.
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the sensuolity of it or wos ii somelhing else?
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she find romontic? And how
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RON: So you con relole lo the women who wos morried, yet she wos
sleeping with somebody else?
RON: Some women like it when o guy is o greot doncer, some like it
when o guy is o greot fotheri you never know whqt q womon will
RON: And I thought $ot wos very romontic thot they go through oll
this stuff to try to be together. And then there wos thol romonce between the nurse ond this lndion soldier.
SUE: Did you think thot wos romontic? Oh, like there wos this one
SUE: One thot comes to mind is lhe Eng/ish Potient.
scene, it wos so
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RON: Oh yes.
SUE: Thot wos very romontic.
house she wos living in oll the woy trc the born where he is stoy-
ing. lt wos iust reolly greot. She comes out ond it wos o poth for
her to follow right to him. And I think thot wos the first night they
moda love, they hod condles oll over ond it wos reolly romontic.
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will know to light condles oll over the bedroom ond to hove o troil
of condles for you. SUE: Yeoh, ond dress yourself up, you know? Weor something reolly
sexy, something speciol. Put the oftershove on.
Notice how Ron risked reiection, but in o context in which o reiection would most likely not hove been personol or horsh. lf the womon wos-
n'i inlerested in him romonticolly, she could very eosily hove simply
given o tepid onswer to Ron's remorks obout being in the bedroom with her. She could hove soid, 'lVell, thot wouldn't work with me"
or "l'd
hove lo know someone o long time before thot would ever hoppen" ond
it wouldn't hove even been o blonket reiection of him. lt iust would hove
been onother piece of informotion obout her; onother port of lhe conver-
sotion. lnsteod, she went right olong with it, tolking obout chocolote ond ophrodisiocs. lt reolly pushed everything to the next level. Ron con be
foirly ossured ot this point thot she will respond positively when he goes
As you con see, things ore reolly cooking between the iwo of fiem
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Ron is oble to push it further by moking references to the greot time they
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ore strongly sexuol references, but becouse of the connection they hove
built through the Flirting Moves ond Romontic Questions she wos
obsolutely fine with them.
go, nolice how he moves intrc the first-kiss questions. The point is, you con tie Romontic Questions together. There is no low soying you con only do
RON: Yes, lwos thinking, "How om I going to moke this reol? How
con I toke everything she soid obout whot she finds romontic in
one ond you hwe ic brce on onswer. lf it looks like something else would
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TERRI: Oh, let's see, ihere wos o Tom, thot's for sure. There were o loi
of Bobs, too.
RON: I wos thinking the other doy. I wos remembering when I wos
younger, in high school, ond I wos thinking obout some of the women I hod crushes on ond how nerve-wrocking il wos, feeling exciting ond vulnerqble. Whot ore some momenls lhot you con
remember in your life, like when you hod o crush on somebody
RON: lwos thinking obout this too: the moments you ore kissing ond
you ore possionotely lost ond you ore soying to yourself 'This is
greol" ond it is so fulfilling to be with them ond you ore with them
ond your eyes ore closed ond you ore iust lost, iust getting into the
experience of it. Whot ore times for you, if you ore willing to shore how you feel, wos it recently when you hove hod thot feel-
RON: Like the first guy you hod o crush on, whot wos it like?
TERRI: ln kindergorten?
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the kiss thot wos greot? Would it be ot the beginning, the middle or...?
it?
TERRI: Something did hoppen there. We went steody for six months
TERRI: lt would be ofter o little omount of time, but not o lot. You find out reolly quickly if the kiss is greot.
when I wos
l3 yeors old.
RON: Whot wos o crush where you looked ot the guy like you ore
looking ot me ond you iust felt like your heort pitter potter, ond
rhor kind of thing.
RON: All right, greol, I understond thot. You con show me this loter.
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wondering obout vocotions ond obout how I hoven't been on o vocotion in o while. I wos wondering if you hove o fovorite vocotion spot or vocotion dreom? You know, perhops o ploce you hove
been thot blew you crwoy or o ploce where you reolly sort of iust let go. Or moybe o ploce where you would reolly like to go. I wos
get to the kind of intensity thot he wos looking for. He wos looking for o
response like 'Wow, with my first crush in high school, Bob, I couldn't stop
thinking obout him ond we couldn'l keep our honds off eoch other."
lnsteod, he kept getting somewhol vogue ond innocent childhood crushes.
This is fine, ond it's exoctly the sort of thing thot will hoppen with women
iust kind of curious obout your thoughts obout your ideql vocotion. HEATHER: I reolly like to trovel. lwent to lrelond obout o yeor ogo,
on o regulor bosis. The \ /omon you ore flirting with probobly hos not
reod this book, so she moy nol know the responses she's "supposed" lo
ond thot wos pretty much the ideol vocotion. I went with o couple
question.
And it worked-olmost
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flirting remork obout how she could show him the best moment of o
loler on. Hod she been o little more responsive he could hove even gone for giving her the first kiss ot thot point.
DAVID: I bet you get to hove experiences thot woy thot you would not
otherwise hove. You get lo see things thot normol tourists would
not gel to see.
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ond it's working. First, he found out where her ideol vocoiion wos. Once
he hod thot he storted osking her obout the best moment on thot voco-
All these good feelings ore getling connecled lo Dovid, leoving her
tion, the one momenl when she felt most speciol ond omozed qnd when
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conversotion unfold in on interesting monner.
there. I kept telling myself thot I wos in lrelond. lt wos reolly mogicol ond beoutiful. There were woterfolls ond rolling hills ond o
And onother time wos when we were neor o little town ond we
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your ideo of o perfect romontic dole?" would. Thot's okoy, becouse this
Romontic Question does nol exist in o void. Along
Queslion, Dwid is doing the Flirting Moves. Also, he will osk her other
Romontic Questions ihot build in intensity ond riskiness qs his interoctions with her unfold.
DAVID: Wow.
HEATHER: I guess fiey regulorly do thot, move lhem from one port of
the field to onother.
Dovid is olso getting lots of informotion obout her. He's leorning how she
likes to
to hong oul ond be spontoneous. This informotion will be helpful to him when he storts designing their Seduction Dote: he'll be sure lo set up o
o stick trying to get them in line ond trying to get them lo turn the
corner lo go on this other rood ond it wos iust veqy memoroble.
Thot would never hoppen oround here, ond it wos iust
dote where she hos oplions ond where they con "follow lheir noses"
rqther thon one thot is more tightly regimented or slructured. (You con
reod more obout seduction dotes in our book How lo Succeed wilh
Women, ond in our other products.)
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funny experience.
DAVID:
Le/s get bock to their conversotion.
Yes, wow. Thot sounds greot, like one of those simple, perfect
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momenis you'll remember forever ond olwoys feel good obout. often think obout those moments when you feel like you reolly
DAVID: Wos there one ploce thot you wenl to where you thought
something like
hove lived life. You know, those moments thot loter in your life you look bock on ond you qre reolly hoppy thot you took the opportunity thot come your woy. lt sounds like you ore pretty hoppy you
ftcok thot opportunity to go on thot trip ond to find out whot there
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Romontic Questions. You'll notice thot ot the beginning he gives the
excuse ond the queslion, but not the description. The reoson for thot is thot he is in the flow with her ond the conversotion, so there is some flex-
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which led to her shoring o simple, wonderful momenl thot she will
olwoys remember. Now Dovid's curiosity hqs token him in the direction of the future.
ibility. Until you get good ot it, you reolly should do oll three ports of the
Romonlic Question.
know o lot obout it but l'm interested in the music l've heord from
thol region, ond I understond thot o lot of people who live there
hove Scottish oncestors.
Also, notice thot Ron uses the queslion "Do you believe in love ot first
sight?" Wqtch corefully how he does thot, becouse, os you probobly
know, if you go up to o womqn in o bor ond soy, "Hey boby, do you believe in love ot first sight?" you will probobly get nothing more from
her thon o drink thrown in your foce. But if you structure it properly, the
ond thot the music is greol. Like I soid before, one of the best
things obout troveling is meeting people who ore there.
woy he does it here, you con reolly gel o conversolion going. He doesn't leod with thot question but builds up to it, so it seems quite noturol.
DAVID: I con tellyou ore someone who reolly cores obout connecting with people, moking reql connections. I find thot reolly ottroclive,
so thot is reolly o cool thing.
RON: You know, I wos tolking to o friend of mine ond we were tolking
obout different times she hos been in love ond whot it wos like,
cores
when you suddenly felt like you knew you were in love?
TERRI: Oh wow, how mony do you wont to know obout?
obout moking reol connections, which hoppens to be true, ond by telling her thot he found thot ottroctive, which olso hoppens to be true. ln this
woy he mode the Romontic Question even more romontic by finding her
interest, odmiring it ond telling her
RON: I iust wont to know oboul one or two. I con recoll whot it wos
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RON: lwould be curious, whot ore some of the best first dotes you've
ever been on? When you meel someone ond it is going greot ond
mon interests ore there, the wit ond wormth ond ployfulness ore
there. The ployfulness is importont, so lhose things come together,
fiings ore good ond then you go out on o more romontic dole.
Whot qre some romqntic dotes you con recoll thot went greot?
RON: So it is greot.
TERRI: You iust go oround ond gush. TERRI: Storting out with dinner ond iust wolking oround, moybe
downtown, ond seeing the night sky from vorious ploces, sorf of
checking out whofs here, whofs there, whot new clubs ore there.
Just kind of exploring together. Then wolking bock to the cor ond
thinking, "l don't wont lo go home" ond he soys lo me, "Do you wont lo go home yet?" ond I soy, "No, not me." Jusl continuing,
finding o quiet ploce... Going to eoch club, opening the door, soying, "No, too loud," closing the door ond moving on to the next
one. Jusl not wonling the evening to end, iust being together, iust tolking ond wolking.
RON: Whqt ore the secrets? Does it hoppen to you, love ol first sight
bumping into eoch other iust sod of holding honds, iust step by
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the sights ond sounds together. lf you were in some exotic ploce,
This time, Ron is tolking to Terri ond he is going tc osk her obout romon-
tic evenings trcgether. One thing to notice is how he brings the things she
soys bock to his relotionship with her ond iS inevitoble success by soying
you would probobly lose your focus, I think, on the other person.
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you, is thot whot you ore telling me?
TERRI: Right.
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ideol romontic dote, ond he got curious ond wonted to boil it down to
ort of kissing. You know, people dont think obout thot enough.
the bottom line. So he osked her, "So whot is it obout thot thot is so omozing Ioyov?" And thot deepened her even more into the beling she
liked so much.
Oh, logree.
DAVID: I like everything thot your normol guy likes, but sometimes ihink I like kissing more thon your overoge guy does.
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worth noting thot you con use the question 'nVhot is it obout thot?"
'tVhot is it obout thot thol wos so greot?" will help her focus even more
on those feelings you wont her to be hoving with you.
you know? Like you ore oboul to kiss, then you stqrt to kiss, then
you ore reolly inio the kiss, then there's the first momenl your
tongues touch... And you could be kissing someone ond the world iust seems to stop, you know? So whot is your fovorite moment in
often outline whot her ideol dote is. You will then use thot informolion
when you construcl o seduction dote with her. ln this cose, Terry is telling
Ron thot one thing thot might moke her hoppy is wolking oround downSU
kiss?
E: I just love thot very first instont when your lips come together.
There is nothing like it. lt gels good
town, holding honds ond exploring. He's creoled o connection with her,
you ore seporole, you ore seporole, you ore seporote, then you get closer, closer, closer, you know you ore going to kiss ond then
you know the lips touch. Oh, to me thofs iust sensotionol. DAVID: Hove you ever hod one of those times where you ore obout to
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should try to moke the whole lip touch their whole lip. And then
you con just slightly move your lips, like o gentle mossoging kind
You
know, you ore reolly filling up the person's lips with your lips, if
DAVID: Especiolly for the first time with someone ond you reolly like
them ond you reolly trust them.
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DAVID: I con imoginetyou ore moking me wont to try thot out, proclice my kissing.
E: Especiolly if they know how to kiss. I meon, I hove been out with
men
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kiss.
lo do. Dovid could leon ocross ond soy, 'You meon, something
this?" ond kiss her exoctly os she described.
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Things ore going greot. She's responsive to the question, so thofs reolly
greol news, ond she's getting used to shoring on this level obout such
intimote topics ond hoving if be o good time.
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DAVID: I hove been wotching o lot of different movies lotely. l've been
in sort of o film-festivol mode oround my house. I meqn, I like oction films but olso hove been getting into more romontic kind of films, like When Horry Met Sally.
more deeply obout kissing, ond os the vibe becomes more intimote, it
would be o simple motter for Dovid to leon over ond soy something like
kiss?
SUE: llikethotone.
know eoch other thot woy, whot would be o good kiss? SUE: Well, I don't like o first kiss where your mouth is honging completely open. Thot is iust too much
DAVID: I iust love lhose scenes where o womon is being swept off her
feet ond iust reolly oble to iusl totolly let go intrc some sort of
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whirlwind romonce. And I wos iust wondering, whd qre some of your fovorite romontic scenes or romontic movies?
Your lips should be iust slightly ported, ond your lips need to be
very reloxed ond flexible. When you touch eoch other's lips, you
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DAVID: Wow, thot's reolly cool. I hove olso been looking ot some of
the Cory Gronl movies. Like him ond Audrey Hepburn in Chorade.
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DAVID: lwould love to see thot film ogoin: the woy they ploy together ond how Cory Gront is olwoys chonging identies ond they hove
such fost ropport ond ore so witty.
versotion, intimocy ond openings for going deeper into your connections with o womon. You've seen how using Romontic Questions does o
lot to keep you out of the friends zone ond creotes conversotions thot o friend would never hove with o womon.
SUE: Thot is such o greot movie, ond romontic. lt is so clever ond romontic. I reolly love oll the movies Cory Gronl mode, I reolly love Io Cotch
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QUESTION: Hey guys-l iusl wonled to osk how lo close the deol with o girl. After tolking
trc
them
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moy seem, o womon who is interested in you willvery likely not coll bock. Of course, neither will o womon who is not interested,
so you jusl con't use collbock frequency os
ting their numbers or osking them out on dotes. I would oppreciote your odvice.
o meosure of how
ANSWER: This is simpler thon you might think. After chotting with o
womon for o while ond doing some of the flirting moves so she
knows yov're interested, you simply sey, "Hey, you seem cool.
So when should you coll her? When you wont to. But don't keep
lewing messoges-simply coll. lf she onswers, greol, but only leove o messoge once in o while. lf ofter the third messoge she hosn't
colled you bock, she's not interested, ond tho/s too bod. Time
move on.
trc
l/s reolly jusl o motter of opening your mouth (oL os Ron colls il, your "pie trop") ond risking reiection by osking her.
Sodly, the phone con become o reol stumbling block. Don't worry
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looking lo you to see whether or not she should bel weird obout
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things. lf you don't think ifs weird to coll her, odds ore she won't,
either.
Mony o successful dote lives or dies on how you use the phone. You'll
see in these questions thot we consislently give one piece of odvice: get her emoil oddress!
This problem points tro the imporlcnce of getting her emoil oddress. Set up the dote vio emoil or o combinotion of emoil ond telephone
ond you'll be woy oheod of the gome. Q: I reolly like this girl in school (we ore both in college). I think she
responsive whenever I tolk with her ond I don't think she hos o
is
boyfriend. I got her number ond she soid I could coll her, bul l've cqlled severol times ond she hosn't colled bock. Whot should I do?
Should I leove her olone?
A: When o womon doesn't coll you bock, it does nol meon thol she isn't inlerested in you. Never expecl o womon to coll you bock,
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However, the big snog l'm hitting lotely is ofter getling the girl's number. l've hod obout
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Of course, fiis doesn't meon you shouldn't ever leove o messoge.
Just don't leove more thon three of them.
coll bock or moke up stupid excuses to not go out. l'm used to hoving ot leost three dotes per week ond l've hod none for severol
weeks now so it's frustroting.
You certoinly ore hoving some solid success, ond thot is greol.
And how you do this Whot you ore bumping up ogoinst is o very common pottern
we've noliced with our sfudents: success ond foilure seem to come
in woves. Thot's port of the seduction life. By woves, we meon thot there seem to be trends in doting thqt ore outside of your control,
depends o lot on how hot o leod the womon is. lf you hove greot
ropport with her qnd hove flirted wirh her mony times ond ifs pretty
cleor she's iust being scotterbroined, you con soy something like "l hove
trc
irc
leqve more thon three messoges wifiout getting o coll bock. lf you
don't get bock to me, I won'l be oble to coll you for o long time.
bosed in some sort of rqndomness or luck. And it's weird: sometimes every womon colls bock-somelimes none do. Somelimes every womon you dote wqnts lo sleep with you. Sometimes there
like you ond you seem like o greol womon, but thofs iust whofs up.
Anylvoy, my number is..." This isn't heovy; you're not yelling ot her...iust telling her the woy it is. You oren't upset, iust strrting the
focts.
Stronge though these trends moy seem, they ore normol. And in
lf she doesn't return your colls ofter three messoges, we think she's probobly not intere$ed. lf you see her, don't mention the colls-do
not confront her obout itl Flirt with her more ond try to set up o dote
ln the meontime, here ore some other pointers we invite you to refed on:
right thenl
How long do you woit to coll the womon ofter you get the number? Perhops you ore woiting too long to coll ond set up the dote.
Q:
ond o holf ogo/ over ond over ogoin, l've become exlremely successful. l've reoched the point where I con get olmost ony single
Moybe you should try to tie down the dote ot the some time you
get the phone number.
womon's phone number ond I now hove o high success role o[ hoving sex on doles.
Are you octively doing the three-step reiection process when things
don't work oul or ore you getting demorolized?
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no you won'l hove to heor ogoin on your woy to the inevitqble yes from
hove known this girl for qbout two weeks. Extremely hot. I hove to
shoke guys' honds everywhere I go just becouse they hove seen
me with her. I don't wont to push it too fost with the romontic tolk,
someone else.
but I olso wont her to think romonticolly obout me. I olso hove her 2. Chonge your interpretotion of why she reiected you from something thot hqs to do with you lo something thot hos to do with her or with life.
home oddress if you would like to odd onything there...
"l guess she didn't heor me." "Looks like she's wropped up in her own world." "Perhops her dog iust died." Remembe4 iusl becouse on explonotion is poinful doesn'l meon you hove to believe it. Find on explonotion thot is not poinful for you ond proctice believing thot.
A: Good work on the first steps-going out with o womon you find
ottroctive. Now for $e nexl step-turning mindless honging out into somelhing romontic ond sexuol.
You don't soy much obout your relotionship now. Whofs it like?
Are you kissing? Moking out? Hoving sex? Heck, ore you even
holding honds? Does she know you ore not iust o friend? This stuff
is importont.
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it.
lf they don't coll you bock, do you then ossume they ore not
intrer-
Since you ore relucicnl to mqke romontic trrlk with her, we con
ested ond not coll them ogoin? We recommend thot you expecl them not to coll you bock qnd thot you coll o number of
deduce thot you ore probobly not hwing sex with her. You must stort showing your romontic interesl in her. You must be compliment-
times-
soy, three times-before you give up on them. With eoch coll, oct os though the previous coll never hoppened. Never confront o
ing her, for one thing. lf you ore noi complimenting her os o womon
or showing your romontic interest ihen you ore reolly in troubleshe moy be thinking of you os q friend
olreod.
Emoil is greot becouse it gives you the opportunity to soy things, especiolly romontic things, thot you might not normolly hove the nerve trc soy lo o womon. lt gives you on opporfunity lo run "visuol-
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one, she hos to go inside ond imogine whot you ore describing iust
cow you hqve lo imogine it. By the some bken, if you describe on
experience trc someone, she hos to go inside ond imogine hwing
rhot experience in order to understond whot you ore tolking obout. So you wqnt to writre emoils thot describe wonderful feelings of love
ond romonce tc the womon of your dreoms. This will gei her in the right stote of mind for your nexl move.
tiny port of her body, she'll go nuts for more. The mistoke most
We suggest love poems. Seorch online or go to o bookstrore or librory ond look under love poetry. Write her emoils thot soy things
like "l sow this poem ond it mode me think of you. I thought l'd shore it." Then enclose the poem. Feel free lo use the some Poem on men moke is they wont to move on to something
big*ond
fost. To
This meons slowly coressing the polm of her hond or ftcuching your
fingertips fic hers ond reolly bringing your ottenlion trr the beling of the sensolion. Or you might iust lightly stroke the inside of her wrist.
You do this to drow her ottention
opprooch. You should be showing your romontic interest ond toking her on o Seduction Dote. You should hove on outcome in mind
ore shoring. Also, toke your time with it. Most of our students ore ofroid thot if they don't rush sexuol inbroctions, sex will never hoppen. But it turns out the opposite is lrue. lf you show thot you ore
reolly willing fic give her detqiled, ottrentive touching ond thot you
oren't pushing things, it will very often drow her towords you. Also,
if you ore willing trc show thot you hove some foith thqt sex will hop-
pen-you show this by not pushing things too hord, or too fostyou will be very oltroclive
heoded guys who either ore friends becquse they show no intrerest
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You moy olso wont to hold eye conficct while you ore doing this
These steps
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willing to look intrc her eyes ond tc have her look inb yours'
Show her you ore willing to hold thot intimote contrrct. She'll probo-
hot i/s okoy-don'f woit for her to to toke tolking further when they hoven'l
even
ond you ore interested in her romonlicolly then you must loke oction to toke things forfher. Here's o question obout thot.
beween us is reolly omozing" con do o lot to intensify her oworeness ond occeptonce of thot energy. lf she soys, 'Yes, it reolly feels
greol," tho/s when you might wqnt lo kiss her. You con either slowly
leon in ond kiss her without soying onything or use the onnouncement method ond soy something like "Dont ponic, l'm going to kiss
do-but
you now."
Commenting on ihe energy is olso o greot lesl ic see whether she is reody for rhe first kiss or not. lf she soys, "Eh, I don't feel much ener-
ly) from being romontic. Perhops you've mqde fort iokes, soid collous things or treoted her like o buddy-nothing too serious. These
gy," then you know to not bother trying to kiss her' lf she soys, 'Yes,
I feel it ond it reolly scores me, I think we should slow things down," then you know to bock off for o while until she is comfortoble. Often
Other women hqve you squorely in the iust friends cotegory ond
will hondle
or*
the sod foct-they simply moy not like you very much ond iust keep
you oround
ly ic furn lhase women intrc lovers, but by trying, ot leost you'll get
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who them out of your life ond cleor some psychic spoce for women
do wont to be sexuol with You.
Consequently, he is indecisive ond oppeors weok trc her, olwoys neryous, olwoys woiting for her ic relox before he reloxes. He does-
trc
style.
lf you ore going trr be seductive with o womon, you musl be willing
lf you wont
okoy-
it is cruciol beyond words thot she not be your one-ond-only-hope for sex. You must be pursuing olher women, flirting with other women, romoncing other women ond being sexuol with other women. Pursuing ond being successfi;l with other women is the only woy to hove reol freedom oround the friend you ore trying to seduce. lt will give you o sense of potience with her, remove ony
moke you sense of desperotion you moy be feeling oround her ond
less
even if i/s romonlic. Thot meons thot you believe il's okoy ond let her know it. You don't oct like lhere's o problem-you oct like everyrhing is greot! Since she's probobly been looking irc you ond your behovior ic know how to feel obout things, most of the time this will octuolly help her relox.
woiloble-qnd
strrrt using the flirting skills. You must osk 'Whot's the stoqy behind
lntroduction. You must condud Romontic Conversolions ond Deepening Conversotions. When you stort incorporoting lhese behoviors intc your lib, women will nof wonder whether you ore o
womqn would. This is true for women you ore iust meeting os well
os for women who
you os o friend. Bottrom line: you must flirt with her, weird os it moy
feel to you the first time you do it. You must flirt'
with, comploining obout your life ond generolly being o whiner. You
must strcp doing ihot right owoy. She should find herself thinking,
so often q mon who ends up o womon's friend fulls into the trop of wonting lhe womon to bel combrtoble obove oll else'
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piece of thot!" rother thon 'Wow, this guy is o downer." You must
poinful for me to be iust friends with someone I bel this woy obout. l'm ottrocted fo you." Then sficp honging oround with
ocl more upbeot, like you hove something going on in your life' The
best woy to do this is to pursue olher women {see obove).
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leost
One mon we know did thls with o womon he wos interested in. She
hod doted him o few times, then decided they should be iust friends.
("1'm very excited," she trcld him.
Don'l bockslide.
you moy be trempled to foll into the trop of octing like o friend ogoin. Don't do it! Follow seducfion protrccol.
trc
be
my new best friend." Arrrgl) He storted following the doting fundomenlols oggressively ond soon found himself being sexuolwith
onolher womon. ln thot ploce of sexuol obundonce, he wos oble to be hoppier ond less woiloble oround lhe womon who wonted tc be
iust friends.
He told us, "She colled to lell me she'd be trco busy trc see me for o
women by thinking the first kiss hos lo come ot the end of the dote. They therefore don't hove their eyes open for opportunities to go for the kiss
trc honestly
eorlier ond put so much pressure on themselves ot the end of the dote
thot they mess up the kiss onywoy.
er we both found the time. Her response? 'But I reolly wont lo see
you!' By being hoppy ond busy, l've been oble t'c keep her pursuing
me, ond l'm confident l'll end up in bed with her." He's free irc be polient with her, to work the seduction slowly, ond not be ottoched to the outcome. Be upbeot ond busy if you wont to turn o friend into
As you proctice flirting, you'll find thot there ore more opportunilies lo build up to ond go for the first kiss thon you used to think. For exomple,
o lover.
R.efuse
door for her ond close it for her ofter she gets in. These little gentlemonly moves ore like the Flirting Moves; they keep reminding her thot you
ore nol iust o friend. You ore o mon, treoting her like o womon. This will go o long woy loword conlinuing the seduction. ln o woy, being o gendemon is o form of Situolionol Flirting, becouse you qre using the ele-
slrrl seeming more romontic with the women you befriended. She'll
either get with the progrom (ond probobly soy, 'You've chonged!")
or she'll tell you in no uncerloin lerms thot you ore now ond will forever be iust friends. lf thot hoppens, you hove
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stop honging
oround with her. Without hedging, tell her, "l'm sorry but i/s trco
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kiss.
Here's on exomple: Dovid wos once on o dqte thot hod been set up by
their friends, Betsy osked Dovid, 'Aren't you cold?" He onswered, 'Yes, oOkoy,'ond they leoned fitg"thbut o kiss would worm me up!" She soid,
er ond kissed.
some friends
of his. His two friends (o couple) hod decided to ploy o dinner for the four of them. Now, we
olwoys odvise our students not lo count on their friends lo set lhem up, but ot the some lime being set up is on occeptoble port of your doting strolegy. lt iust should never be your one-ond-only hope. We olso usuolly tell men to hove Priming Dotes before hoving dinner dotes. (A Priming Dote is o cofhe dote you hove with o womon. You don't move
At thd point, they hod known eoch other obout two hours. He hod firted
ond shown romontic interest ond she hod responded. Once this kiss hod
hoppened, Dovid's queslion wos no longer'lVill she get sexuolwith me?"
The question become one of 'lVhen?" By poying otlention to the environment ond using the situotion to his odvonlrege, Dwid wos oble to get
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on to Seduction Dotes-bosicolly evening dotes-until you've estoblished some mutuol sexuol inbrest. See our book How
first kiss well before the end of the dote-ond much more lqter in the
evening.
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But few rules ore corved in stone, so Dovid went olong on this dinner-
coffee shop. He hod done the Flirting Moves qnd osked his dote the
Romonlic Question
prefi ond
'lVhot
intelligent. They hod o good time ot dinner; Dovid wos flirting with her,
enthusiosticolly, telling him, 'There ore octuolly three ideol scenorios" ond describing them in detoil. She then osked him obout his ideol romontic dote, ond they looked into eqch othey's eyes os he tolked obout it.
smiling, holding eye conloct, winking ond checking out her body. He
osked her'Whofls the story behind thot?" ond did some Deepening. He
dqte?" ond oll four of them discussed it. Dovid noticed thot ofter this,
Betsy's eyes sporkled os she looked ot him.
bolhroom, she poused in front of the fire burning in the coffee shop's fireploce. Ron come up behind her ond gently put his honds on her
After dinner the four of them went doncing. Dovid's friends lei Dovid ond
Betsy
shoulders. She turned ond smiled, looking into his eyes, ond they kissed severol times. This wos ofter knowing her for oboul on hour.
off in front of the donce club while they went to pork lhe cor. lt wos
cold, so Dovid took off his iockei ond put it oround B"tty't shoulders os
they wolked trc the club. This wos Situotionol Flirting in thot it wos using
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One of our students mel o womon ol o compus grocery co-op. They hit
it off ond he osked her if she'd like to go to o coffee shop with him. She
but of course, you never know. The bottom line: if you've shown romon-
soid yes, so they went lo one ond tolked for over on hour. He did the Flirting Moves ond Deepening ond osked some Romonlic Questions. During o Deepening Conversotion he osked her, 'lVhot would you most like to be doing with your life?" She onswered, ond there wos o very close, intimote feeling in the oir. She osked him the question bock. He
onswered, "l don't knowwhot lwont to be doing with my life, but I know Second, she must like the ideo of being kissed. You test this through the
flirting ond Romqntic Conversotions thof you do. lf she resists your flirting
if she won't hold eye contoct, glores ot you when you check out her
thot right now I wont to be kissing you." She blushed ond soid, "Okayi'
or evosive replies, she's probobly not interested. Don't bother going for
the kiss; she's nol interesbd.
ond he leoned ocross ond kissed her. From thot point on, there wos no
question thot their relotionship wos romqntic, not iust friends. Totol time
from meeling her to getting thot first kiss? One hour ond 20 minutes.
lf she's been receptive trc oll the other romontic things you've done then you
con go
Does this hoppen every time? Of course not. But it con hoppen
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of woys trr do it. You con osk her if you con kiss her, but mony women ftnd
this offonsVe, believe it or nol. You con "iusl do it run the risk of doing it ogoinst her
thon most men reolize-but you hove lrc toke the opportunity to go for the
kiss when it presents itself. Simply
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will-which
is
dromoticolly increose your chonces of getting the first kiss well bebre the end of the dob.
if it
onnouncing the kiss by leoning trrword her ond sqying something like
kiss you"
works well ond doesn't leqve her thinking thot you ore o beggor or o ierk.
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Tolking to women is not the only component of succeeding with women,
see
must not be surprised by the kiss. She must be thinking of it or seeing it os somewhot inevitoble. This will hoppen if you've shown your romontic interest, if you've done whot we've outlined in this book, ond
though it is o criticol porl. You still must be oble to get her number or emoil oddress, set up the dote ond go for thot oll-importont first kiss. lf you odd the skills in this chopter
here's the
X-foctor-if she likes you. lf you do fiese things, shet likely to like you,
women, you'll go o long woy toword hoving the sex life you desire.
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Congrotulotions! From this moment forword, you never hove lo feel like
you ore "stuck" in your tolking to women ogoin. You now know the
Flirting Moves, 'lVho/s the story behind lhol?," Situotionol Flirting,
Deepening, the Goodbye lntroduction, Romontic Questions ond more.
with your body. As you proctice with this moleriol, you will find thot
lhere's olwoys o direction you con go in o conversolion with o womon,
ond the ports of $e sequence oll fit together. lf you don't know whot to do ond ore seeing o womon for the first time, you con soy hi or use the
use
your curiosity, either by osking o curiosity queslion ond follow-up questions or by osking 'Whofs the stoqy behind thot?"
Other limes, you'll find you con go from hi to o Situotionol Flirting move, moking some sort of loke or creqlive misinterpretotion obout the environmenl, ond you con bond by being silly ond loughing together. Doing
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Ultimotely, the conclusion of this book is writien by you.
h/s
written by you
Once
o womon storls
i/s
eosy
lo
strcrt osking
in how you live your life ond how you use this moteriol. lf you look ot this os on interesting book thot you got o fow tips out of, tho/s fine. But this
book will be oll the more powerful if you review the progrom ond set it
trc
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moments they don't like, but very often there ore momenls where you
feel like, 1Mow, this is whot I wos put on eor$ to do.' l'd be curious to
know, if you'd core to shore, whot ore some of lhose moments for you?" From there il's eosy lo odmire whot she is into ond reflect il bock lo her,
work. You write the conclusion...in howyou use this book in your lib.
Even though we don't know you personolly, we reolly do core whot hop-
which mokes you more speciol in her eyes ond connects you even more.
pens trc you ond your success wilh women. We reolly do wont this book to speok directly
trc
While this is going on, of course, you've been procticing your Flirting
Moves. You've been moking ond holding eye conloci, you've been mok-
ence in your life. We hope ic meet you somedoy ol o seminor, through our
cooching progrom or oDnvhere in the world vn{rere we moy hove the good b*une to conneci. We olso wont lo sincerely thonk you for reoding
this book, suspending your doubts ond trying things out. We ocknowledge
ing decisions quickly ond eosily, you've been winking ol her, you've
been complimenting her ond so forth. These moves odd to the certointy,
both on your porl ond hers, thot you ore tolking io her qs o mon tolks
you for getting hrough the sections you might hwe disogreed with or
bund difficult. ln oll sincerity, we commend you for toking the sieps you
need to toke to develop the kind of success with women you desire.
thot dote you con do more flirting, more "regulor" conversqtion ond
Deepening ond stort osking Romontic Questions.
You con reoch us: You con probobly sense how oll this fits together ond how il creotes o romontic vibe in your interoctions with women. These ore the vibes thot
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