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Competitive comparison JAGUAR 980-930 vs.

New Holland FR 850-450 (9090-9040)

Product range 2012


Overview

JAGUAR
Engine Exhaust gas standard Max. power (ECE R120) Feeder width / height Cutting cylinder width / Cutting cylinder variants Corn cracker Spout rotation angle in HP in in

980
MAN D2862 V12 24.2 l TIER 2 884 28.7 / 7.1 29.5 / 24.8 24 9.8 210 / 225

970
MAN D2868 V8 16.2 l TIER 2 775 28.7 / 7.1 29.5 / 24.8 24 9.8 210 / 225

960
OM 502 LA V8 16 l TIER 4i 653 28.7 / 7.1 29.5 / 24.8 24 9.8 210 / 225

950
OM 502 LA V8 16 l TIER 4i 598 28.7 / 7.1 29.5 / 24.8 24 9.8 210 / 225

940
OM 502 LA V8 16 l TIER 4i 510 28.7 / 7.1 29.5 / 24.8 24 9.8 210 / 225

930
OM 460 LA R6 12.8 l TIER 4i 456 28.7 / 7.1 29.5 / 24.8 24 9.8 210 / 225

FR
Engine Exhaust gas standard Max. power (ECE R120) Feeder width / height Cutting cylinder width / Cutting cylinder variants Corn cracker Spout rotation angle In HP in in

9090/850 9080/700 9060/600 9050/500 9040/450


IVECO Vector

V8 20.00 l TIER 2 824 33.9 / 7.1 34.8 / 28 32 / 24 / 16 9.8 210

CAT C18 R6 18.10 l TIER 3 685 33.9 / 7.1 34.8 / 28 32 / 24 / 16 9.8 210

IVECO Cursor13 IVECO Cursor13 IVECO Cursor9

R6 12.90 l TIER 3 591 33.9 / 7.1 34.8 / 28 32 / 24 / 16 9.8 210

R6 12.90 l TIER 3 500 33.9 / 7.1 34.8 / 28 32 / 24 / 16 9.8 210

R6 9 l TIER 3 424 33.9 / 7.1 34.8 / 28 32 / 24 / 16 9.8 210

Change in model numbers with updates to various parts of the machine.

Competitive comparison JAGUAR 980-930 vs. New Holland FR 850-450

Product range 2012


Overview ORBIS 900 ORBIS 750 ORBIS 600 RU 450 30 ft 25 ft 20 ft 15 ft 490 FI 480 FI 471 FI 450 FI 441 FI 420 FI 280 FP 290 FP 30 ft 25 ft 25 ft 20 ft 20 ft 15 ft 12 ft 17 ft

Made by Kemper

PU 380 HD PU 300 HD

12.5 ft 10 ft

DD 610 DD 520

20 ft 17 ft

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Crop flow
General
Discharge accelerator 26.8 in x 21.3 in ~2400 rpm Corn cracker 9.8 in / 30% or 40% 100F/125R Tooth ~3200 rpm Drum 29.5 in x 24.8 in ~1200 rpm Feeder 28.7 in x 7.1 in Discharge accelerator 29.5 in x 20.6 in ~2119 rpm Corn cracker 9.8 in / 22% 99 tooth (9040-9060) 99F/126R tooth (9080-9090 ~3516 rpm Drum 34.8 in x 28 in ~1130 rpm Feeder 33. in x 7.1 in 138 ft/s

190 ft/s 151 ft/s

223.1 ft/s 137.8 ft/s 3.3 15.8 ft/s 131.2 ft/s

Evenly rising crop flow in combination with increasing crop speed (CLAAS has more than 20 years of crop flow experience); Only minor reduction of crop flow crosssection (7% between feeder and discharge accelerator).
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Evenly rising crop flow and increasing crop speed; The wider the cutting cylinder, the more the downstream crop flow cross-section must be reduced (13% between feeder and discharge accelerator).

Feeder
Front attachment matching
Large Drum: Feeder width 28.3 in = -16%

New Small Drum: Adjustable feeder cones for opening width (23.6-39.4 in)

Perfect interplay of front attachment and vehicle: ORBIS feeder cones support the crop flow without restricting the feeder width (28.7 in); Undisturbed feeding, regardless of front attachment cross inclination; The development of own front attachments enables optimum matching of crop flow components.

The Kemper/John Deere front attachments cannot make full use of the feeder width of 33.9 in; Width reduction followed by spreading out is quite unlikely. Dependence on supplier in a very central crop flow area: Optimization of front attachment and machine is not an "in-house" matter.

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Feeder
General

7.1 in 7.1 in 28.7 in

33.9 in

Tried-and-tested feeder cross section designed for up to 1160 hp ensures reliable pre-compression and high throughput under all conditions; Removable wear bars for lower and upper feed rollers.

The wider the feeder, the more difficult it is to achieve high pre-compression from small crop amounts and/or lightweight crop; Replaceable wear bars only for upper feed roller; Optional lower bar starting in 2012.

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Cutting cylinder
Accessibility

V-type opening is possible with front attachment fitted for quick visual inspections; Lateral opening is possible after removing the front attachment and swinging the feed roller housing open to the side; Complete separation is possible. When carrying out major service work, the feed roller housing can remain fitted e.g. to the ORBIS front attachment.
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V-type opening is possible; Lateral opening is not possible; Complete separation is possible, but: The bottom feed and pre-compression rollers remain connected with the cylinder housing; A crane, telescopic loader or front loader is required. The cylinder can be completely removed and put down on feet.

Cutting cylinder
Product range

All drums marked in red are only available through parts

V36 (36/18/12 knives)

V24 (24/12 knives)

V28 (28/14 knives)

V20 (20/10 knives)

V32 (32/16 knives)

V24 (24/12 knives)

V16 (16/8 knives)

Model

LOC
[mm]

Width /d
[in]

Speed Cutting frequency


[rpm] [cuts/min]

Model

LOC
[mm]

Width /d
[mm]

Speed Cutting frequency


[rpm] [cuts/min]

V36 980-970, 3.5960-930 37.5 V28 960-930 4-31

29.5 / 24.8 29.5 / 24.8 29.5 / 24.8 29.5 / 24.8

1200 1200 1200 1200

21,600 16,800 14,400 12,000

V32

850-450

3-16

34.8 / 28 34.8 / 28 34.8 / 28

1130

18,100

V24

850-450

4-22

1130

13,600

V24 980-970, 4-44 960-930 V20 960-930 5-44

V16

850-450

6-33

1130

9,066

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Cutting cylinder
Design

V-MAX cutting cylinder: Cutting forces are absorbed by the cylinder spiders; Two bolts / knife; No knife readjustment is necessary. V-shaped knife configuration for centered crop flow; Modular design for easy replacement of damaged parts.

Cutting cylinder design according to Chevron: Five bolts/knife plus one threaded and one holding plate/knife; Readjusting the knives is necessary; Wear of threaded plates. V-shaped knife configuration for centered crop flow; The cutting cylinder is essentially a basic structure with bolt-on shafts and knives.

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Cutting cylinder
Sharpening and shear bar adjustment

Starting and monitoring of sharpening and shear bar adjustment from the cab; Only forward sharpening in the offer: Advantages for forward sharpening outweigh clearly. Reminder function, information about "Time until next sharpening, knife condition, total of sharpening cycles (sharpening stone and machine).
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Starting and monitoring of sharpening and shear bar adjustment from the cab; Reverse sharpening is possible upon request: An additional drive is required; No reminder function, no information about knife condition.

Corn cracker
Product range

CLAAS
in inches Numbers of teeth Numbers of teeth through parts Profile Speed difference in % standard Speed difference in % option Belt tensioning
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Roller crackers (MCC)


9.8
100/125 100/125/150

New Holland
in inches Numbers of teeth Standard profile Speed difference in % standard Speed difference in % option Belt tensioning

Roller cracker
9.8
99 tooth (9040-9060) 99F/126R tooth (9080-9090)

Sawtooth 22 hydraulic

Sawtooth 30 or 40 20 42 60 hydraulic

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Corn cracker
New Hollands Variflow System

Corn cracker retracted / discharge accelerator in corn position"

When working in grass, the corn cracker swings out of the crop flow and is locked in parking position: According to NH, this takes two minutes; Complete removal with a swinging jib and a chain hoist (option) takes 30 minutes (acc. to manufacturer); The system reduces the distance between cylinder and accelerator by 60%; The manufacturer claims that this saves 40 hp - when working in grass.

Corn cracker extended / discharge accelerator in "grass position"

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Corn cracker
Installation and removal

The corn cracker can be easily moved out of and into its working position on rails; In all applications, the discharge accelerator maintains the optimum position relating to the upstream and downstream subassemblies; When working in grass, the CC can either remain in the discharge and cooling system compartment or be removed. At any rate, it is not driven; Insert the filler housing into the lower discharge chute and tighten two brackets.

Easy swinging in and out; The system reduces the distance between cutting cylinder and accelerator by 60%; Necessary because otherwise the crop flow would be decelerated heavily due to the reduced cross-section? The system enlarges the distance between discharge accelerator and discharge flap: Problems with sticky material? Permanently running corn cracker: Power requirement? Service life?

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Discharge accelerator
General

29.5 in 26.8 in

Four flat paddles/section; V-type paddle configuration engages continuously into the crop flow; Enormous throwing capacity at 223 ft/s for reliable throw onto trailer; The throwing capacity can be adapted using the accelerator gap adjustment (either manual or electric).

Six thick paddles/section: 50% more clamping points and higher clamping forces (paddle thickness) require more power. Straight paddles (center) engage straight into the crop flow; Lower throwing capacity at 190.3 ft/s may not always be sufficient (Example: making splits through the field in corn).

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Upper discharge chute


General

Wear plates can be accessed from the outside; Three extensions available; 225 rotating angle is possible; Automatic parallel guiding of filling point on the trailer available; Two upper discharge chute positions can be stored and parking position is possible.

Wear plates: The first third is accessible from above, second third can be accessed only from below; Only one extension is available (27.6 in); Only a rotational angle of 210 is available; No automatic flap control is available; Two upper discharge chute positions can be stored and parking position is possible.

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Silaging agent systems


General

Silaging agent systems for conventional and highly concentrated silaging agents are available; Easy control and monitoring through CEBIS; Quantity- (gal or gal/h) or throughputdependent (gal or gal/t) dosing is possible without changing nozzles.

Additional tank (75.3 gal) for use as silaging agent or fuel tank; Control and monitoring by IntelliView III; Dosing by variable pump in combination with three nozzle types: Only quantity-dependent (gal/h) dosing is possible.

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Crop flow drive concept


Portion of hydraulic and mechanical drives

Hydraulic

Mech.

Hydraulic

Mech.

Front attachment Feeder Cutting cylinder Corn cracker Discharge accelerator Sharpening device forward Sharpening device reverse Rotary chaff screen suction Fan Total
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1 1 2

1 1 1 1 "1" 1 6

Front attachment Feeder Cutting cylinder Corn cracker Discharge accelerator Sharpening device forward Sharpening device reverse Rotary chaff screen suction Fan Total

1 1 1 1 1 5

1 1 1 1 4

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Crop flow drive concept


Portion of hydraulic and mechanical drives

Drive concept with a clear goal: Maximum efficiency. Mechanical drives wherever possible, hydraulic drives where they are necessary (comfortable control): oil circulation: 17.4 gallons; Small efficiency losses; Efficient, but simple control system; No-compromise reliability.

In general a drive concept with many hydraulic drives and few mechanical drives: oil circulation: 26.4 gallons; Increased efficiency losses = reduced energy efficiency; Increased complexity regarding control system; Increased failure susceptibility.

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Crop flow drive concept


Main, feeder and front attachment drive

Transverse engine for direct power band belt drive without losses (high efficiency); Compact feeder drive concept with short hydraulic hoses: Minimized efficiency losses; Changing feeder torques are realized without a delay. Immediate deceleration of main drive due to QUICK STOP, after shutting down; Front attachment drive by means of comfortable quick-release coupler.

Longitudinal engine requires angle drive for power band belt drive: Loss of efficiency due to power redirection; Angle drive must be cooled (power is consumed). Feeder drive concept with long hydraulic hoses: Increased efficiency losses; Changing feeder torques arrive with a delay due to increased absorption of hydraulic energy in the long hydraulic hoses.

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Engine and surroundings


Overview of engines

JAGUAR 980 970


Engine type Design Capacity [l] TIER Max. Power hp Min. Power1 hp Fuel tank [gal] DEF tank [gal]

960

950

940

930

FR
Engine typ Design Capacity [l] TIER Max. Power HP Fuel tank [Gal]

MAN MAN MB MB MB MB D2862 D2868 OM502 OM502 OM502 OM460 V12 V8 V8 V8 V8 R6 24 16 16 16 16 12.8 2 2 4i 4i 4i 4i 884 333 357 775 322 357 653 310 317 30 598 317 30 510 317 30 456 317 30

9090 9080 9060 9050 9040 850 700 600 500 450
IVECO
Vector08

CAT
C18

IVECO IVECO IVECO


Cursor13 Cursor13 Cursor9

V8 20.1 2 824 320

R6 18 3 685 320

R6 12.9 3 591 3220

R6 12.9 3 500 322

R6 9 3 424 322

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Engine and surroundings


New Hollands TURBO COMPOUND SYSTEM
Exhaust gases Power turbine

Air intake

Gears

Air to charge air cooler

Power transmission to crankshaft Oil feed flow

Only available for FR 9060; The residual exhaust gas energy is converted into mechanical energy and transmitted to the crankshaft; The fuel consumption is to drop by 8%;
Oil return line

Hydroelastic clutch

This is said to give an additional 50 hp.

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Engine and surroundings


General

Flawless access to all important engine components; Silent blocks for low-vibration engine support.

Worse access due to higher position, integration and non-removable mud guards; Silent blocks for low-vibration engine support.

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Engine and surroundings


Cooling

Fixed rotary chaff screen with rotating air intake tube. Large screen surface due to conical shape: Low air velocity, resulting in less soiling; Intake of cleaned air through a large surface. Suction effect: Use of suction effect produced by the discharge accelerator.

Rotating rotary chaff screen with fixed air intake tube (similar to JAG 880-820): Sealing by brush, leaving reliability requirements unsatisfied; V-belt drive susceptible to wear. Suction is generated by hydraulic pump additionally integrated into the floor: Concept involving a greater effort.

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Engine and surroundings


Hydraulic system

Constant-pressure system, i.e. a pressure of 210 bar is permanently available: Immediate reaction; No permanent circulation. Oil is pumped only when needed; Less oil heating-up. All hydraulic lines and hoses are as short as possible: Reduced efficiency losses.

Constant-flow system, i.e. oil is pumped permanently (gal/min): Pressure must be built up first; Permanent circulation. Unneeded oil flows back through a pressure relief valve; Increased oil heating-up. Largely dimensioned hydraulic hoses of several yard length, some hydraulic lines: Increased efficiency losses.

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Chassis and drives


Vehicle concept

65%

35%

76%

24%

Weighed Total weight: Front axle weight: Rear axle weight: 19.8 tons 12.9 tons 6.9 tons

Permitted Delta 19.8 tons 13.2 tons 7.2 tons


0 tons

Weighed Total weight: Front axle weight: Rear axle weight: 20.4 tons 15.5 tons 4.9 tons

Permitted Delta 19.8 tons 13.2 tons 7.2 tons


+.6 tons

-0.3 tons

+2.3 tons

-0.3 tons

-2.3 tons

No change in weights from Model change


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Chassis and drives


Vehicle concept

Well-balanced vehicle concept: Transverse engine positioned behind the rear axle; Drive wheel oriented towards the front for short distance from the attachment Optimum weight distribution enables reduced use of rear ballast. Optional tire pressure control system for adapting the pressure to road and field.

Unbalanced vehicle concept: Longitudinal engine with angle drive above the rear axle; Worst weight distribution on the market, requires increased use of rear ballast (total weight!); No tire pressure control system available, i.e. unadapted tire pressure for road travel and fieldwork; Large tires (available up to 42").

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Cab
Outside

Flat windshield with A-columns moved forward: Hardly any reflections inside the cab; No impairment of windshield wiper field; Optimum air conditioning is possible. Windshield wipers for front, side and rear windows; Adjustable work lights.

Rounded windshield with A-columns moved back: Reflections inside the cab; Rounded windshield is not covered by windshield wiper; Restricted ventilation with purely static A-columns. Cracks can be seen in curvature. Work lights cannot be adjusted.

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Cab
Inside

Hand-rails on the left and right for convenient access. Inviting cab access; Good view of front attachment, to the side and the rear; Automatic air conditioner as standard equipment; Several trays including cooling compartments and integrated cooling box.

Access without hand-rail on the right, access restricted by arm rest / passenger seat; Good view of front attachment, to the side (higher side windows) and the rear; Air conditioner as standard equipment: Automatic version available as an option. Few trays, no integrated cooling box.

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Cab
Control panel

Switch console adjustable in two directions and joined to the seat, with a wide arm rest; Ergonomically arranged switches with selfexplaining symbols. Quick settling-in of new drivers.

Switch console adjustable in one direction (horizontal) and joined to the seat; Self-explaining symbols, some supplemented by text, but only in English; Unintended actuation of emergency stop button by hand sliding down; Settling-in of new drivers is more difficult (ground speed control lever).

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Cab
Ground speed control lever
Change pushbutton

Driving activation

Ergonomic ground speed control lever with adjustable hand rest, without any doublefunction pushbuttons; Path-dependent ground speed control lever: Any change of ground speed control lever position has an immediate and noticeable effect; The ground speed control lever always remains in its last position.

Double-function pushbuttons: A change pushbutton is necessary. Time-dependent ground speed control lever: Ground speed control lever always returns to its neutral position; The ground speed control lever position from where an effect can be noticed must be searched again and again.

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Cab
Ground speed control lever
Automatic spout rotation Storing spout position or the parking position Lift / lower front attachment or lateral levelling Power Cruise and/or Auto Pilot Quick stop Engaging and disengaging or reversing the front attachment Upper discharge chute and flap control Stored front attachment heights

Specifically shaped pushbuttons of different sizes for intuitive operation; Two-stage pushbuttons (fast/slow) for front attachment (lift/lower) and upper discharge chute rotation; One double-function pushbutton, but only when AUTO PILOT is active in combination with CAM PILOT; Adjustable hand rest.

Pushbuttons for front attachment and spout control have the same size. Danger of confusion. Two-stage pushbuttons (fast/slow) for front attachment (lift/lower) and spout rotation; Three double-function pushbuttons with differing response: Double-click / press and hold / combination with R-pushbutton.

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Cab
Terminal

CEBIS (8.4") as the central control and information unit; Drive with Compact Flash Card for data transfer; CEBIS and HOTKEY rotary control switches for quick access to main and auxiliary functions; Logic menu guiding for very easy optimisation of settings.

IntelliView III touchscreen monitor (7.0") as the central control and information unit; USB port for data transfer; No quick access to main and auxiliary functions; Limitless amount of information, in small type-size; Driver-specific settings are possible.

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Summary
TOP TEN DISADVANTAGES

Crop flow
Restriction.

Cab
Windshield design.

Chassis and drives


Weight distribution.

Feeder
Feeder width.

Engine and surroundings


Constant-flow hydraulic system.

Cutting cylinder
Lateral opening.

Crop flow drive concept


Longitudinal installed engine.

Corn cracker
Reduce the distance.

Discharge accelerator
Clamping forces.

Upper discharge chute


Access wear plats.

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Summary
JAGUAR unique selling points

STOP ROCK Tire pressure regulation system CAMPILOT

Accelerator gap adjustment QUICK ACCESS QUICK STOP

ACTISILER 20
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DIRECT STOP

TELEMATICS

Competitive comparison JAGUAR 980-930 vs. New Holland FR 850-450

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