Leaving The Birth Place

By Devdatt. B. Dave

B
Devdatt
Dave, is a astrologer based in Chennai and has an experience of 40 years in the profession of astrology, palmistry & numerology. A great lover of books, his deep
interest in the science was awakened while reading a book published by Janmabhoomi way back in 1969 and gradually his curiosity took him to tread deeper in to acquainting complete knowledge of the subject. In the process he joined the institute of astrological studies and acquired deeper knowledge from stalwarts like Late Dr. B.V Raman, Mr. S. K. Kelkar, Mr.Ashwathapa, Mr.Dhwijen Desai. He has actively participated in several workshops on astrology, Vastu Shastra ashtakavarga (conducted by the renowned late Mr. C. S. Patel) He has also been the committee member to IAS (Institute of astrological studies) .With his keen interest in palmistry he also has a huge database of palm prints of people from various walks of life

elow is a verse from Sambhu Hora Praksha which has been translated in English By Late R Santhanam. It is one of the rarest classics that is often ignored by even senior astrologers. Incidentally it contains gems in astrology. Here is scribes attempt to modify the shloka slightly.
Mars and Saturn in 12th, 8th or 5th House [Sambhu Hora Praksha 14/13]

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Recipient of Jyotish Vachaspati certificate from Bruhad Gujarat astrological society, Ahmadabad. His website is www.astrolight.in

Meanings: If the 9th lord is in the 12th house and 12th lord is in the 9th house and without strength, and in the 3rd house malefics are placed, then this is also considered as a Kemadruma Yoga. Such a person will be interested in having food in others places, will be engaged in bad deeds and against dharmic principles, Will have mean mentality, will be interested in other women and will be in debts. Mars and Saturn together in the 12th, 8th or 5th house (Sambu Hora prakasha -14/14), the person will be deprived of his motherland, having to leave his/her place of birth due to bad luck. This is another kind of Kemadruma Yoga. This article is based on the last verse. As per the above given principle the person with such combinations in their horoscopes are usually deprived of their mother land, having to leave his/her place of birth. To prove the same, below given, are a couple of charts of various individuals with the given combinations and short description as to how the above principle was applicable in each case. In majority cases there is no conjunction between Saturn and Mars but both are placed in one of the houses viz. 12 or 5 or 8. But there is some link between Mars and Saturn in all the charts either in the Rasi chart or Navamsa chart as seen below:

Chart of Mr.P.M DOB 17/6/ 1956 Time 10.00am Place- Vishnagar (Gujarat) Lat 23N 4200 / Long- 72E 3300 In this chart Saturn is in the 5th house Scorpio which is the house of Mars and Mars is in 8th house - Aquarius-the house of Saturn. So there is Parivartana between Mars and Saturn. Also in Navamsa Chart (Chart not provided here) they are in mutual aspect.

In the above chart Saturn is in the 5th house and Mars in the 8th house. - The person was originally doing steel business during 1997 2000. - In this phase he introduced a financial scheme for customer benefit which backfired and he had to flee his place of birth with huge debts and moved into Chennai to reside with his in-laws. Vimshottari dasa running was of Saturn and Antardasa was also of Saturn. - Despite of all above circumstances and 5th house of this individuals horoscope being poor, his son now an IT Engineer , is well placed Chart of Mr.U.D DOB 21 Sep 1959 Time 23.06.00 Place-Chennai In this chart Mars is in the 5th house in Virgo and Saturn is in the 8th house in Sagittarius and thus there is mutual aspect between Mars and Saturn. In Navamsa Saturn and Mars are conjoined in Gemini, the 10th house of Navamsa chart.

Here Mars is in the 5th house and Saturn in the 8th house. Instance during the period of Rahu Mars between 1999- 2000 - He was a commission agent for textile business and alongside did private textile business and suffered loss due to his suppliers. - In spite of the difficulties he began working for plywood market and after yet another unsuccessful endeavor, was eventually forced to leave with family from Chennai between 1999 -2000. Vimshottari dasa-Antardasa was of Rahu-Mars-Rahu. In 5H is Mars and receives the aspect of Saturn. - He relocated to Bharuch (Gujarat) started off his own laundry with the aid of his inlaws. - His son is well placed now as a Chemical Engineer ( this is yet another constant thing seen so far in most case quoted here and may require further pondering as a separate subject of discussion ) Chart of Mr.HPM DOB 28 Oct 1956 Time 1.15 am Place Bhavnagar (Gujarat)

Mars is in the 8th house Saturns house and Saturn is in Scorpio-house of Mars. Thus there is exchange between Mars and Saturn. In Navamsa there is no link. Condition applicable 5th house occupied by Saturn and 8th house occupied by Mars - Basic education was poor - Imperfect business style and he ended up cheating his shop owner by selling his rental property to a third party for a sum of 7 lakhs and fled from Chennai with the amount between 1996 -1997. Vimshottari dasa was of Moon and Antardasa during this period was of Moon and Mars. If the exact date is known some reasoning could be given. - His son is now better placed as an Electrical engineer Chart of Mr HS and Mr.MS HS DOB - 9 June 1951 Time 16.30 Place Chennai There is no link between Saturn and Mars in Rasi chart but in Navamsa they are in mutual aspect.

Saturn is in 12th house and Mars in 8th House MS DOB 13 May 1981 Time 07 .00 am Place Chennai

There is no link between Saturn and Mars in Rasi chart but in Navamsa they are in mutual aspect. Condition applicable Mars occupies 12th house & Saturn occupies 5th house. 11-2-2012 to 12-4-2012 - The father son duo were involved with imitation jewellery business, suffered huge debts, separation from siblings. - Yet with persistent efforts he helped set up a travel agency for his son again with borrowed money. - Finally they went broke due to repeated business failures and huge liabilities that forced them to flee from Chennai in 2012 Vimshottari dasa running was of Mars and Antardasa was of Rahu for HS. Rahu is placed in the house of Saturn. And for MS Rahu Dasa-Jupiter Antardasa was running. Jupiter is conjunct Saturn. Rahu is aspected by Mars. Charts of Mr.HDV and Mrs.RHV HDV DOB -2 May 1971 Time 19.00.00 Place Chennai

In this chart there is no link between Mars and Saturn except the fact that Mars is in Capricorn, the house of Saturn. In Navamsa also there is no link. RHV DOB 15 Dec 1971 Time _ 02.45.00 Place Chennai

In this chart there is mutual aspect between Mars and Saturn. Condition applicable Mars occupies 5th house and Saturn occupies 8th house These are charts of husband and wife - Father of Mr.HDV expired on 17/3/09 and left a legacy of debts. - Currently Mr.HDV continues to run the family business (of cycle spare parts) and making efforts to clear off all existing debts - As seen his wifes chart also reveal Mars in 5th House and Saturn in 8th house with Mars in highest shadabala. - As of date, this family continues to have a meager to moderate existence and as seen in previous cases, similar circumstances of prosperity have not yet come about. - Yet the charts are indicative and hence can definitely be borne in mind for application of the principle.

As a concluding remark, I take the liberty to suggest remedial measures for the above as follows: For eg. For Taurus & Libra ascendant (Lagna) advised to wear sapphire blue (precious gemstone and offer prayers to Mars) For Leo and Cancer ascendant (Lagna) advised to wear coral (precious gemstone) and offer prayers to Saturn. Likewise for every Lagna, yoga karaka we can suggest the requisite gemstone or prayers.