Bahai Child Rape Court Case - Implications for Iran

by MaryamJoon 11-Sep-2012 You only have to know three names to understand this story: (1) Remey, (2) Abdu'lBah, and (3) Jensen. The .!. "ourt#s o$inion re%e"tin& the a$$eal o' the (aha#i

leader#s ra$e "onvi"tion is below. )nd as you will see *emey sou&ht to desi&n a (aha#i buildin& in +ran. Charles Remey: ,harles *emey was a $rominent )meri"an (ah-./, with a "lose relationshi$ with one o' the "entral (aha#i holy 'i&ures, )bdu.l0(ah-, and was one o' the $eo$le that or&ani1ed his 'amily#s tri$s to the .!. and looked a'ter them. *emey was also an ar"hite"t within the (ah-./ leadershi$. 2e desi&ned the )ustralian and &andan (ah-./ 2ouse o' 3orshi$ whi"h still stand today and are the 4mother tem$les5 'or )'ri"a. $on the re6uest o' !ho&hi 7''endi, )bdul (aha#s son, *emey made desi&ns 'or a (ah-./ 2ouse o' 3orshi$ in Tehran. *emey was also a member o' what is "alled 89ine 2ands o' the ,ause# (the (aha#+ leadershi$) ele"ted as the authority until the ele"tion o' what is "alled +srael#s 8 niversal 2ouse o' Justi"e# in 1:;3. Remey was well-liked by`Abdu'l-Bah and worked with him: )bdu.l0(ah- $raised *emey#s e''orts and "hara"ter in a a writin& ("alled a 4Tablet5) to ,orrine True, $ublished in the (ah-./ newsletter 4!tar o' the 3est5 in )u&ust 1:2<. 3hat 'ollows is one o' the many e=am$les o' >)bdu.l0(ah-#s a''e"tion 'or *emey: "Praise be unto God, that the model [of the structure] made by Mr !our"eois #as appro$ed by his honor, Mr %emey, and selected by the &on$ention 'is honor, Mr %emey is, $erily, of perfect sincerity 'e is li(e unto transparent #ater, filtered) lucid and #ithout any impurity 'e #or(ed earnestly for se$eral years, but he did not ha$e any personal moti$e 'e has not attachment to anythin" e*cept to the &ause of God +his is the spirit of the firm and this is the characteristic of the sincere " (!tar o' the 3est. ?olume 11, 9o. :, $. 13:) Abdu'l-Bah in !"#! stated the followin$ about Remey: ", ha$e adopted you as my son -ou ha$e to appreciate this fa$or $ery much indeed .ne should see that you are li$in" accordin" to the re/uirements of this sonship -ou should be a#are of your responsibilities My prayers #ill help you , al#ays pray for you " (>)bdu.l0(ah- to *emey, 1:21: @inal ?isit in Tiberias, @olio 2, A) Bil&rima&e to the 2oly Cand: *eminis"es o' the Master, 1:21A, $$.12D012:) Remey % &ensen: *emey#s "lose asso"iate was a man by the name o' Er. Celand Jensen, (4Co"al (ah-./ Ceader dead at F15. )u&ust F, 1::;. Missoulian $. (2). *emey and Jensen im$lemented a s"heme to use "hildren, se=ually, to lure $eo$le to the (aha#i movement. Eurin& the three +ranian eras (Ga%ar, Bahlavi, and +*+) there were similar "om$laints, and there were similar "om$laints durin& the 1:H<s and 1:I<s by +ndia#s and Bakistan#s Barsi (Joroastrian) ,ommunity. 'he courts affirmation of the Bahai leaders child rape con(iction:

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)'A'* +, -+.'A.A/ 01AI.'I,,-R*)0+.2*.'/ (3 2R3 1*1A.2 &*.)*./ 2*,*.2A.'-A00*11A.' 0*'I'I+.*R3 Kri&inal Bro"eedin& 'or Bost0"onvi"tion *elie' made by +nmate o' the Montana !tate Brison B7* , *+)M KB+9+K9 Ee'endant in this "ause has 'iled a $etition 'or $ost0"onvi"tion relie'. Ee'endant had a$$ealed his "onvi"tion to this ,ourt and it was a''irmed. !ee !tate v. Jensen, 1I3 Mont. 233, HII B.2d ;31. +n his $etition de'endant asserts that his senten"e and the $ro"eedin&s whereby it was $ro"ured violated the due $ro"ess and e6ual $rote"tion "lauses o' the 1Hth )mendment to the nited !tates ,onstitution, in that: 1. !e"tion :H0H1<;, *.,.M. 1:HD, as a$$lied to this "ase and the senten"e im$osed "onstituted "ruel and unusual $unishmentL 2. !aid se"tion :H0H1<;, *.,.M. 1:HD, as a$$lied to his "ase is va&ue and without standardsL 3. The !tate "alled 'or $rodu"tion o' eviden"e by the de'endant be'ore he testi'iedL and H. The !tate 'orbid de'endant and his "ounsel 'rom interviewin& witnesses "alled by the !tate. !e"tion :H0H1<;, *.,.M. 1:HD, reads: A)ny $erson over the a&e o' ei&hteen (1F) years, who shall wil'ully and lewdly "ommit any lewd and las"ivious a"t, other than the a"ts "onstitutin& other "rimes $rovided in se"tion :H0H1<1 to :H0H1<F, u$on or with the body or any $art or member thereo', of a child under the a$e of si4teen 5!67 years, with the intent o' arousin&, a$$ealin& to, or &rati'yin& the lust or $assions or se=ual desires o' su"h $erson, or o' su"h "hild, shall be &uilty o' a 'elony, and shall be im$risoned in the state $rison not e="eedin& twenty0'ive (2I) years.A This statute was ori&inally ena"ted as !e". 1, ,h. I:, Caws o' 1:13, and remains substantially the same today e="e$t that the $enalty was in"reased by !e". 1, ,h. ID, Caws o' 1:I:. The "onstitutionality o' this statute was u$held in !tate v. Mo"her, 112 Mont. I11, 11: B.2d 3I. There is nothin& "ruel or unusual about a senten"e "on'inin& one to the state $rison 'or the "ommission o' a 'elony. The se"ond "ontention that the statute is va&ue and without standards is without merit. )s stated by this ,ourt in the Mo"her "ase, su$ra, the elements o' the "rime as set 'orth in the statute are: 'irst, the o''ender must be over the a&e o' 1F yearsL se"ond, a lewd or las"ivious a"t must have been "ommitted u$on or with the body or any $art or member thereo', o' a "hild under 1; years o' a&eL and third, the a"t must have been "ommitted with the intent o' arousin&, a$$ealin& to, or &rati'yin& the lust or $assions or se=ual desires o' the a""used or the "hild. There is nothin& va&ue about this lan&ua&e and the standards are s$e"i'i"ally set 'orth.

)s to the re6uest by the !tate 'or the $rodu"tion o' eviden"e by de'endant be'ore he testi'ied, it is true as dis"losed by the 6uote 'rom the re"ord that the $rose"ution stated: A3e will "all u$on the do"tor to $rodu"e that "ard.A 9o ob%e"tion was made to this re6uest, in 'a"t "ounsel 'or the de'endant stated: A3e have the "ase history here and we will be &lad to &ive it to you.A 2owever, even i' we were to "on"ede, ar&uendo, that the !tate should not have made any su"h re6uest, what $re%udi"e resultedN 9one. Ee'endant willin&ly 'urnished what was re6uested without any ob%e"tion whatever. The 'inal assertion, that the !tate 'orbid the de'ense 'rom interviewin& witnesses. +n su$$ort o' this "har&e de'endant submits e="er$ts 'rom the trial trans"ri$t o' "autionary remarks made by the trial %ud&e to witnesses, advisin& them not to talk with anyone about the "ase on trial and i' they desired advi"e as to the $ro$er thin& to do in any su"h situation they should "onsult the "ounty attorney. Thus it was the statements o' the trial %ud&e rather than any remarks made by the $rose"ution that are "ited in su$$ort o' the "ontention. These matters were "onsidered by this ,ourt u$on the a$$eal as indi"ated by the 'ollowin& $ara&ra$h 'rom our o$inion: AEurin& the "ourse o' the trial the "ourt on several o""asions &ave instru"tions to the witnesses and made other "omments, some o' whi"h may have im$lied to the %ury that the "ourt 'elt the witnesses were tellin& the truth. 3e 'ind no merit in a$$ellant.s ar&ument on this issue. )t no time did his "ounsel ob%e"t to these "omments. The leadin& "ase in Montana on "omments by the "ourt is !tate v. Ei=son, F< Mont. 1F1, 2;< B. 13F (1:2D). +n that "ase ob%e"tion to the "omment was made immediately and we see no reason why that should not have been done here. The &eneral rule is that the lower "ourt "annot be $ut in error with an issue raised 'or the 'irst time on a$$eal. !tate v. ,am$bell, 1H; Mont. 2I1, H<I B.2d :DF O22 ).C.*.3d F2HP (1:;I).A 'here bein$ no merit to any of the contentions made by the defendant his petition for post-con(iction relief is denied.

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2ear 2ale/ 8a(e you seen this

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 10, 2012 11122 3M P4+ There are a lot o' arti"les all over the internet, that indi"ate that $eo$le are startin& to e=$ose the inner0workin&s o' this &rou$. R Sod (usiness is bi& business: (ahai Ceaders "on'irm not "arin& about @ollowers R Eialo&ue with 2ai'an0(aha.i Ceaders 00 Beo$le 2ave Guestions. R a H< year veteran o' the (ahai @aith and a @ormer (ahai leader states e=$li"itly on video that A(ahais try to threaten, de'ame, and stalkA others to avoid talkin& about issues R AMoney deals the (ahai leaders have en&a&ed in to make them e=tremely wealthy, in"ludes e=$loitin& the misery o' other $eo$le.A R A+ranians under atta"k by 2ai'an (ahai $ro$a&anda or&ani1ation.A R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

And the road takes a cur(e for the entire mo(ement

by MaryamJoon on Sun Sep 15, 2012 01126 PM P4+ God Business is big business: Bahai Leaders confirm not caring about Followers R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

8a(e you read them in ori$inal 0ersian or British *n$lish9

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I doubt it3333
by EaleT2usband on Sat Sep 17, 2012 08125 PM P4+ ,harles Mason *emey.s su$$osed ado$tion by )bdu.l0(aha as his son is somethin& that 2ai'an (aha.is have "onsistently denied sin"e the 1:;<s. +.d think i' it were at all valid, then )bdu.l0(aha would have a$$ointed *emey as the @+*!T Suardian o' the ,ause o' Sod and not !ho&hi 7''endi. Eale 2usband, the 2onorable !ke$ti" R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

2id Abdul Baha say this about Remey9

by MaryamJoon on Sat Sep 17, 2012 08119 PM P4+ ", ha$e adopted you as my son -ou ha$e to appreciate this fa$or $ery much indeed .ne should see that you are li$in" accordin" to the re/uirements of this sonship -ou should be a#are of your responsibilities My prayers #ill help you , al#ays pray for you " ()bdu.l0(ah- to *emey, 1:21: @inal ?isit in Tiberias, @olio 2, A) Bil&rima&e to the 2oly Cand: *eminis"es o' the Master, 1:21A, $$.12D012:) R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

)ome corrections
by EaleT2usband on Sat Sep 17, 2012 08110 PM P4+ !ho&hi 7''endi was )bdu.l0(aha.s eldest $randson. There were do1ens o' 2ands o' the ,ause o' Sod in 1:ID, when !ho&hi 7''endi died. The nine 2ands, in"ludin& Charles -ason Remey, that were ele"ted to lead the @aith until the establishment o' the niversal 2ouse o' Justi"e in 1:;3 were "alled ,ustodians o' the @aith.

)'ter !ho&hi 7''endi died, it was dis"overed that he had a$$ointed no one to su""eed him as Suardian o' the ,ause o' Sod, and su"h an a$$ointment would have had to have been a$$roved by a "oun"il o' nine o' the 2ands o' the ,ause o' Sod, ele"ted by the entire body o' 2ands themselves. This was "learly de'ined in the :ill and 'estament of Abdu'l-Baha3 (ut when *emey made "laim to be the se"ond Suardian, with no eviden"e that this was %usti'ied, the ,ustodians o' the @aith voted to re%e"t that "laim as 'alse. *emey was then e=$elled as a ,ovenant (reaker. (ut the ultimate ,ovenant (reaker was !ho&hi 7''endi himsel'U 2is death a"tually $ut an end to any le&itima"y the ,ovenant o' the (aha.i @aith ever had. 3hen *emey was e=$elled 'rom the @aith, so was anyone who 'ollowed him and a""e$ted his 'alse "laim, in"ludin& Celand Jensen. (ut *emey.s 'ollowers be&an 'i&htin& amon& themselves even be'ore *emey died at about 1<< years o' a&e. (y that time, he had &one senile and was in"a$able o' any leadershi$ "a$a"ity. @inally, Jensen.s "hild molestation "onvi"tion has nothin& to with the validity (or la"k thereo') o' the "laims o' the (aha.i @aith itsel'. Eale 2usband, the 2onorable !ke$ti" R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Allah-u-Abha to our Bahai compatriots

by MaryamJoon on Sat Sep 17, 2012 07100 PM P4+ 3ith kindness and sin"erity, is it $ossible 'or the leaders o' the niversal 2ouse o' Justi"e to answer 6uestions $eo$le have on this blo&N Eialo&ue with 2ai'an0(aha.i Ceaders 00 Beo$le 2ave Guestions. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Bahais should consider the Reform Bahais - A(oid 8aifa Bahai

by MaryamJoon on :ri Sep 16, 2012 02161 PM P4+

K' "ourse +ranian (ahais are our own "hildren, but also $eo$le have to know that there is a political &ame in the ba"k&roundL and they have to know that most (ahais are not+ranians (and these 'orei&ners make themselves involved in +ranian issues on behal' o' +srael). +' a "hild is +ranian, and wants to stay (ahai, + would say to them

do .+' 'ollow the 8aifa-Israeli-Bahai ... there are other &rou$s o' (ahai 'or them to %oin. 2ere is a &rou$ that says they are not "onne"ted to +srael and "riti"i1es the 8aifaIsraeli-Bahai 0olitical ;roup and -ilitary 0ropa$anda +perations3 *e'orm (ahai Bress I22H )intree *oad *o"hester, M+ HF3<;02D13 0hone: (2HF) ;I20H:F2 R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

I m smart and I belie(e -aryam<oon

by on :ri Sep 16, 2012 08171 3M P4+ my years o' e=$erien"e with the named "ommunity have led me to one "on"lusion, Maryam%on is ri&ht I wear an +me$a watch R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

:as the =) &ud$e who con(icted the Bahai leader a >Bahai hater>9
by MaryamJoon on :ri Sep 16, 2012 08166 3M P4+ +' you "an.t answer that 6uestion, it means you are not addressin& 'a"ts in the "ourt.s de"ision and sour"es "ited. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

)in$ it to the marines333

by @rasho&ar on :ri Sep 16, 2012 01178 3M P4+

@or someone who uses several aliases on this site, one o' them bein& 'ruthseeker", you have a lot o' "hut1$ah $rea"hin& to anyoneU (ut, hey, "hut1$ah is what you $eo$le have in abundan"e. Tell your handlers in the (+) and MK!!)E, we don.t "are anymore what you $eo$le say 0 and nor do the hundreds who have le't this webiste be"ause o' the insane asylum and +sraeli surveillan"e0$ro$a&anda site you $eo$le s$e"i'i"ally have turned it into. 2ave a ni"e day, !hlomo :) R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

,rasho$ar
by *eality0(ites on :ri Sep 16, 2012 01172 3M P4+ 2avin& read some o' your AeruditeA "ontributions on +, on various sub%e"ts, it.s $retty "lear you wouldn.t know the word Aembarrassin&A i' it "ame u$ to you and kneed you in the "rot"h. + don.t think + have ever read 6uite as mu"h drivel $rodu"ed by a sin&le individual on +, as you. A(ahai +nternet )&en"yAN A(ahai holohoa= denierAN 3hat the hell are you witterin& on aboutN Kn se"ond thou&hts $lease don.t answerL + "an only take so mu"h bullshit in a sin&le day. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Reality-Bites
by @rasho&ar on :ri Sep 16, 2012 01165 3M P4+ You really should "he"k with your handlers in the Baha'i Internet A$ency be'ore $uttin& 'in&er to keyboard and embarrassin& yoursel'. The &rou$s under dis"ussion have no +ranian re$resentation whatsoever. They are solely )meri"an based s"hismati" &rou$s who the mainstream (aha.is "all A"ovenant breakersA. The 2ai'an 2J or&ani1ation "onsiders Celand Jensen, Mason *emey, et", and the or&ani1ations they s$awned to be enemies. (ut, yes, + am a A(aha.i holohoa= denier.A The so0"alled $erse"ution o' the (aha.is o' +ran is e=a&errated and many o' its items are outri&ht 'i"tions, the e=isten"e o' the narrative bein& there solely to undermine +ran. (ut the 6uestion remains, sin"e you are not an +ranian, why do you "areN

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Reality-Bites
by Just)n+ranian on :ri Sep 16, 2012 12170 3M P4+ Thank you 'or the in'ormation. + was very sur$rised at herVhis views. 9eo09a1i.s talked about the Jews like that and the +slami" *e$ubli" hates everybody o'"ourse... R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

'his >-aryam<oon> character is a known Bahai hater

by *eality0(ites on :ri Sep 16, 2012 12169 3M P4+ )s + stated be'ore, he shows u$ on +, every on"e in a while (a'ter bein& banned) to s$read his hate messa&e a&ainst the (ahais. 2e has used many usernames be'ore on +,, in". A9uri )1alA, A@ree thou&htA, ATabar1inA et" and is now usin& a 'emale moniker to $eddle his usual hate 'illed bile a&ainst one o' the most $erse"uted &rou$s o' $eo$le in +ran. 2is usual method is to re$eatedly $ost sele"tive (ahai related material, whi"h he distorts and twists to "ast as$ersions on (ahais as a whole. 2e is not interesed in dealin& with 'a"ts, ob%e"tivity and balan"ed dis"ussion. 2e deliberately i&nores the su''erin& o' (ahais in +ran and instead $osts blo&s like this as he is all about s$readin& hate and bi&otry, as 'ar as (ahais are "on"erned. +n short, this "hara"ter is sim$ly not worth en&a&in& with. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Bahai proselyti?in$ materials are not >facts>

by MaryamJoon on :ri Sep 16, 2012 12116 3M P4+ + am 'amiliar with this te"hni6ue 0 another (ahai 6uoted s"ri$ture and so 'orth on another $a&e. To be honest, + don.t "are about that.

+t.s a "ourt "ase: ) $rominent (ahai ra$ed a "hildL he went to $risonL and he was asso"iated with someone linked to )bdul (aha. The $roblem with (ahai $roselyti1in& sites is they make their own A'a"tsA 00 they sit around day and ni&ht writin& thin&s and $uttin& them u$ on their website while restri"tin& the $ubli".s ability to "omment on those thin&s. ,an you "omment on o''i"ial (ahai websites as you "an hereN + don.t think so. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

:hat fool would belie(e your lies and propa$anda9

by Je''reyK(@ on +hu Sep 12, 2012 11129 PM P4+ Eear MaryamJoon + don.t really "are what you think o' (aha.i. (e"ause you are slanderin& )bdu.l0(aha and Mason *emey by 'alsely assertin& their involvment with Jensen.s "rimes (yes a&ainst "hildren) you are 'or"in& me to $ut a"tual 'a"ts be'ore the readers o' this tri$e. !ome o' your readers mi&ht re"o&ni1e there are stri"t re6uirements o' reliability to have 'a"ts admitted into eviden"e at trial in !. 'ederal "ourt. + $resent you with a"tual 7?+E79,7 (what smart $eo$le evaluate be'ore believin& anythin&) deemed by the "ourt to be "redible and reliable. 7verythin& + stated is $roven by unre'uted eviden"e in this "ourt "ase. )ll o' (aha.i history has now been 'ully liti&ated and the eviden"e is a matter o' $ubli" re"ord there 'or all to see. So here 'or re'eren"e material on this "ase: htt$:VVwww.truebahai."omV"ourtT"ase.html You have no eviden"e whatsoever 'or the lie that Mason *emey tar&eted "hildren. + am &oin& to &o away now but let the audien"e know that Jensen has nothin& really to do with *emey or )bdu.l0(aha. )"tually, Jensen sou&ht $ower in the *emey or&ani1ation and le't it a'ter a year or two in the 1:;<s to &o o'' and start his own or&ani1ation, the (aha.is nder the Brovisions o' the ,ovenant, an or&ani1ation e=istin& in dire"t "on'li"t with the 'a"t that *emey "ontinued as the leader o' his own se$arate or&ani1ation.

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1aws can be formal or informal

by MaryamJoon on +hu Sep 12, 2012 11122 PM P4+ This is a "ourt "ase 0 the 'a"ts are "lear. (ahaism $retends to subsume other reli&ions. +n the )brahami" reli&ions, the weird stu'' is mostly ins$ired 'rom the Kld Testament. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

)hiism@0edophilia
by asadabad on +hu Sep 12, 2012 11117 PM P4+ 3hat does the bahai reli&ion have to do with "hild ra$eN Their reli&ion doesn.t have any laws that le&ali1e this behavior. !hiism le&ali1es "hild ra$e, $rostitution, and sodomy. Ce&ali1in& !odomy: (D) 9arrated Muhammad bin Yahya, 'rom )hmad bin Muhammad, 'rom al0(ar6iy re$ortin& (+mam) )bu )bdullah OasP sa sayin&: AIf the man used the woman's anus/ but did not e<aculate/ there is no ;husl on either one3 But if he e<aculated/ he must take a $husl/ not her3> al0Ma'i ('il @uroo.): al0Mulainy, (ook o' Tahra, ,ha$ter: 3hat Mandates Shusl on the Man and 3oman, vol.3, $.HD, narration F ;7< ";=arrated< al-'ussain bin 3li bin -a/teen said1 I asked Abul-8assan AasB about the permissibility for the man to ha(e anal se4 with women/ he AasB said: It was made halal 5permissible7333> Ta'seer al0)yyashi, vol.1, $.1IDL (ihaar al0)nwaar vol.21, $.:FL Ta'seer al0(urhaan vol.2, $.23< )nd ri&ht 'rom the 12th +mams re$resentative: >A man can ha(e se4ual pleasure from a child as youn$ as a baby3 2owever, he should not $enetrate. +' he $enetrates and the "hild is harmed then he should be res$onsible 'or her subsisten"e all her li'e. This &irl, however would not "ount as one o' his 'our $ermanent wives. The man will not be eli&ible to marry the &irl.s sister.A

The "om$lete Bersian te=t o' this sayin& "an be 'ound in A)yatollah Mhomeini in Tahrirolvasyleh, @ourth 7dition, Earol 7lm, Gom, 1::<A R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Can't trust Bahai leaders on child safety issues

by MaryamJoon on +hu Sep 12, 2012 08106 3M P4+ Cet.s see what you wrote Je''rey K(@ 0 Your words. 1. AJensen was "onvi"ted o' "hild se= "rimeA (,an you also admit it was a&ainst a "hildN) 2. AJensen was 'or a short time a $art o' *emey.s (aha.i or&ani1ation.A (You "laim short time, but have no eviden"e.) see (ah-./ (rainwashin& ,or$oration )bdu.l0(aha had everythin& to do with even mu"h worse thin&s than this. That.s the 'irst $oint. The se"ond $oint is that )bdu.l0(aha des"ribed *emey as a ApureA man (he was a man that used children to re"ruit "onverts 0 he did the same thin& in +taly). The most im$ortant $oint is that +ranians have a ri&ht to beware when 'orei&n molesters are tryin& to "ome to +ran and be $art o' a se"ret or&ani1ation that Adoes not &et involved in $oliti"sA nor "all attention to the misbehaviors o' 'ellow adherents. :e/ Iranians/ watch our children3 .obody's faith $i(es access to our kids3

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1ies and 2istortions

by Je''reyK(@ on +hu Sep 12, 2012 07175 3M P4+ There are no hard 'a"ts here. Just slander. + understand that Celand Jensen was "onvi"ted o' "hild se= "rime. 2owever, this has nothin& to do with Mason *emey or )bdu.l0(aha. The 'a"ts are that Jensen was 'or a short time a $art o' *emey.s (aha.i or&ani1ation, but he soon broke away to 'orm his own or&ani1ation, the ( B,, et". whi"h was unrelated to *emey. K' "ourse, )bdu.l0(aha had nothin& at al to do with any o' this.

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-y comment seems to ha(e hit a ner(e with the BIA

by @rasho&ar on >ed Sep 12, 2012 02120 3M P4+ !in"e it was 'la&&ed whereas other "omments o' mine weren.t.... 2ere is my theory... by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02117 PM P4+ Cet us "all them the A(oardA. (y the (oard + do not mean the 2ands o' the ,ause or the 2J. The (oard had !ho&hi 7''endi murdered in 1:ID in Condon and $ro"eeded to le&ally take over all the assets, $ro$erties and monetary 'ortunes o' the 2ai'an (aha.i or&ani1ation &lobally. 3hile !ho&hi 7''endi was still alive, it was im$ossible 'or the (oard to 'ully "ontrol the 2ai'an (aha.i or&ani1ation. The (oard.s interest was to ensure that 2ai'an (aha.ism did not remain a 'amily a''air and that the 'ortunes o' this or&ani1ation devolved to them. !ho&hi 7''endi went to Condon with his ,anadian so"ialite wi'e in late 1:ID and there as he was about to $ubli"i1e his last will and testament and the name o' his su""essor amon& his male 'amily members, he was bum$ed o'' with the 'ull "om$li"ity and "oo$eration o' his wi'e. ) 'lu, a "ommon "old, was blamed 'or his demise but no auto$sy was ever allowed to determine the a"tual medi"al reasons 'or his death. 3ith !ho&hi 7''endi.s death, the (oard took over everythin& and eliminated the in'luen"e o' any rivals to its own "laim within the 2ai'an (aha.i lands"a$e. The (oard are not all Jews. (ut the (oard does have si&ni'i"ant +sraeli re$resentation. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

-aryam&oon
by @rasho&ar on >ed Sep 12, 2012 12169 3M P4+ You were ri&ht. The (aha.i +nternet )&en"y has shown u$ in 'ull 'or"eU R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

capital of (ice crimes is not in Iran

by MaryamJoon on >ed Sep 12, 2012 12127 3M P4+ There are thousands o' *ussian women tra$$ed in a$artments with bars on the windows, as admitted by +sraeli $oli"e on video (C+9M 1, Eo"umentary C+9M 2), that are bein& 'or"ed to be $rostitutes. Eivide the Jewish $o$ulation o' +srael (I million) by the number o' $rostitutes there (in"ludin& "hild $rostitutes) 0 then "om$are that to +ran. The )meri"an Jewish "ommunity, $arti"ularly the ,asino owners in Cas ?e&as (C+9M 3), also have a lon& history o' seriously e=$loitin& women. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

CDE FG HIG JKLMNO PQRSRT

MaryamJoon +ue Sep 11, 2012 10161 PM P4+ WXYZ [\]^ _` abc de fghi ajk R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

UVW XSLG
+ue Sep 11, 2012 10112 PM P4+ WZ ] uvj p^uan UUz{| }gn qc ~a WXr`a] onUUf\lj amnamj de onfj d^p qrs on tuvw puefj _ne xay Y\ q` f\ WZ \sUU aj tuvw wfs^u ev` WZ abc UU ufg\` \vi ep Wwfs^u pq ufg\` qj pa] uvj ] jUU peu a\ j f q Warh\` amj flnu _`UU I wear an +me$a watch

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,reedom of e4pression 3339

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 10102 PM P4+ + le't a "omment that stated in my o$inion it was ironi" that 7&y$tians were bein& "riti"i1ed 'or their abusive behavior, whi"h it is, be"ause o' a video while my $ost here has been re"eivin& a very or&ani1ed treatment o' abuse also ... and that "omment o' mine disa$$eared. ) te"hni"al &lit"hN + &uess + su''ered another te"hni"al &lit"h when my arti"le %um$ed o'' the 'ront $a&e. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

1otfan een o bebin

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 09175 PM P4+ @K*M7* ()2)+ )!!7M(CY C7)E7* K9 ?+E7K ((ah-./ (rainwashin& ,or$oration): ",?$e been a !ahai since 1985 %ea"an needed a blud"eon to beat ,ran and the !ahai faith is useful for that purpose +he !ahai faith uses @S and ,sraeli "o$ernment officials a"ainst ,ran +he !ahai administration misleads people about #hat it is !ahai doctrine manipulates its follo#ers !ahai conduct is ruthless !ahais harass people, en"a"e in personal slander and abuse to obscure do#nplay and conceal facts +he #hole focus of the !ahai faith is on self-ser$in" censorship and manipulation +heir #ebsites are hi"hly censored and manipulated to a point that is almost unbelie$able and include methods to manipulate internet searches " R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

JDLK JYIK Z[DNO\

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A$ain/ :ikipedia is not a source for anythin$

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 09110 PM P4+ :hat did the 'holy man' call the or$ani?er of child rapes/ as determined by a =) court9 1et's read it to$ether3 3!4@A !3'31 'is honor, Mr %emey is, $erily, of perfect sincerity 'e is li(e unto transparent #ater, filtered) lucid and #ithout any impurity 'e #or(ed earnestly for se$eral years, but he did not ha$e any personal moti$e 'e has not attachment to anythin" e*cept to the &ause of God +his is the spirit of the firm and this is the characteristic of the sincere " (!tar o' the 3est. ?olume 11, 9o. :, $. 13:)

I'm not in the habit of en$a$in$ hate mon$ers/ but33

by *eality0(ites on +ue Sep 11, 2012 09116 PM P4+ Just as a 'inal res$onse, based on what + read 'rom the links + $osted below (whi"h you "onveniently disre&arded), *emey himsel' had nothin& to do with the "hild abuse "ase. +t was Jensen that was "onvi"ted o' the lewd a"ts. @urthermore, the statement o' )bdul (aha was made de"ades be'ore *emey.s re%e"tion 'rom the (ahai 'aith and the events 'rom you oh so Aob%e"tiveA blo&. )lso, as already stated, (ahais later re%e"ted *emey: htt$:VVen.wiki$edia.or&VwikiVMasonT*emey A...2e (*emey) "laimed to believe that the Suardianshi$ was an institution intended to endure 'orever, and that he was the 2nd Suardian by virtue o' his a$$ointment to the +(,. Almost the whole Bah '] world re<ected his claim/ althou&h he &ained the su$$ort o' a small but wides$read &rou$ o' (ah-./s...A (ut o' "ourse, you are not interested in arti"les whi"h don.t su$$ort your hi&hly sele"tive and edited version o' events. )nd + note that you avoid the 6uestions re&ardin& the motives behind this (and your 1illion other hate 'illed) blo&s. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

^LK
MaryamJoon +ue Sep 11, 2012 09109 PM P4+ Y\ ^pu qeu }` ep x ] fZ R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

F_`DIa Lbc dIeW N Zfg_h dIeW

Mhers +ue Sep 11, 2012 09102 PM P4+ ] qna\` f j qe ueu xah flnu f _nqrs ] pvabZ @rasho&ar .qrXYZ c on xvy Wnf` ^ on ] qna\` f j WZ c x . uf] a na _ne pu ] A}{\{y uaZf|A W j flnu fjpa] pvr\bZ na _ne flnu aZay pu ep \X }amj tanqfs _\bZ WZ x^e xvs kqcaj c _\bZ efj flnu We qYnvr\`. ------------------------------------q\^ a efj tpa on: ] _l\`: vc }amj an }b\{] khj pj {\Zev\` fek vh\\Y` khj pj {\Zev\` fe vc xvb{Y` hj pj ta^a\Zev\` fe -----------------------------------------vw td^p an c. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

'he =) &ud$e had no >hidden a$enda> 333

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 09101 PM P4+ and ... man irooni hastam ... that.s my a&enda. !o when someone wants to brin& "ertain un"he"ked behaviors into my "ountry, + will share 'a"ts that a$$ear in "ourt "ases. There are in 'a"t many more "ourt "ases. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Abdul Baha describin$ Remey as >pure> when linked to child abuse

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 00179 PM P4+ Try to dis$ute it all you want, those are 'a"ts: 3!4@A !3'31 'is honor, Mr %emey is, $erily, of perfect sincerity 'e is li(e unto transparent #ater, filtered) lucid and #ithout any impurity 'e #or(ed earnestly for se$eral years, but he did not ha$e any personal moti$e 'e has not attachment to anythin" e*cept to the &ause of God +his is the spirit of the firm and this is the characteristic of the sincere " (!tar o' the 3est. ?olume 11, 9o. :, $. 13:) R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Challen$in$ hidden a$endas is not an attempt to silence

by *eality0(ites on +ue Sep 11, 2012 00175 PM P4+ You "an say what you like, but by the same token you should e=$e"t $eo$le to "hallen&e your views. 9o one is su&&estin& that "ourt "ases are 'abri"ations (i' anyone has, $oint them out). 3hat +! hate'ul is to s"our the net to "ome u$ with s"ra$s o' histori"al data about individuals in an attem$t to "ast as$ersions on the entirety o' a 'aith. (ahais o' +ran are under systemati" and vi"ious $erse"ution inside their own "ountry. This does not matter a %ot to you, but an individual, e=$elled by the (ahais, "ommittin& a lewd a"t over H< years a&o does. +' this deliberately sele"tive e=$ression o' views is not a si&n o' hate mon&erin&, then what is itN !o kindly sto$ $layin& the vi"tim here.

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Completely accurate
by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 00162 PM P4+ T27 K@@+,+)C ()2)+ C+(*)*Y )C!K )EM+T!: AThe .2ands o' the ,ause. ((ahai Ceaders) had &athered in the 2oly Cand, in"ludin& Charles -ason Remey....A ORemey was a main insider as admitted by fficial Bahai records.P )nd the re"ords 'urther des"ribe *emey as someone who Arecei!ed great honours from both "aster and Guardian ()bdul (aha and his son 7''endi).A R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Court cases are not >hateful fabrications> 333

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 00128 PM P4+ ... but most o' the "omments that show an attem$t to silen"e are. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

2ear -r3 ;ilani and Reality-Bites

by "as$ianti&er on +ue Sep 11, 2012 00122 PM P4+ Thank you so mu"h 'or your "oura&e by standin& u$ to bullies who $ro$a&ate hate'ul 'abri"ations 'or the sole $ur$ose o' de'amin& a reli&ious minority. + have been a vi"tim o' hate "rimes as a youn& boy in +ran be"ause o' my reli&ion and am still haunted by those senseless humiliations. The 'amiliar methodolo&y used by .MaryamJoon. and .@rasho&ar. are the e=a"t methods used to by the +slamist re&ime to stir the emotions amon& the "rowd and &enerate mob atta"ks a&ainst us. @or those "om$atriots who "are to seek the truth 'or themselves, the means are readily available at your dis$osal.

)ll (aha.is love +ran and "onsider it holy. 2owever, instead o' re$lyin& to ea"h one o' these baseless and in'lammatory remarks, + "hoose to say: May Sod bless our beauti'ul land, +ran, and all her $ea"e0lovin& sons and dau&hters.

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Bahais >seek independent in(esti$ation of the truth> ri$ht9

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 00106 PM P4+ 3hat did )bdul (aha say about *emeyN Cet.s see: 3!4@A !3'31 'is honor, Mr %emey is, $erily, of perfect sincerity 'e is li(e unto transparent #ater, filtered) lucid and #ithout any impurity 'e #or(ed earnestly for se$eral years, but he did not ha$e any personal moti$e 'e has not attachment to anythin" e*cept to the &ause of God +his is the spirit of the firm and this is the characteristic of the sincere " (!tar o' the 3est. ?olume 11, 9o. :, $. 13:) R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

:ikipedia doesn't count for diddly - nice try to conceal facts

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 00118 PM P4+ *emey was a Bahai his whole life and a "on'idant and aid to )bdul (ahaL iou claim all reli$ions are united/ ri$ht9 *emey was the one o' the 'irst leaders o' the ,oun"il that $re"eded the niversal 2ouse o' Justi"e in +srael. *emey was Bresident o' the +nternational (ahai ,oun"il. *emey was an advisor to !ho&hi 7''endi ()bdul (aha.s son also). This &uy was a main insider. :hat the Bahais ha(e written on their own website or :ikipedia is irrele(ant - what matters is what was reported in the 0R*)) and in Abdul Baha's own letters then/ and the court case3

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'his -ust Be )topped

by Mort Silani on +ue Sep 11, 2012 00107 PM P4+ Eear )dministrator, This is an ur&ent $lea to you to sto$ the systemati" de'amation o' the (aha.i @aith and its believers by shady "hara"ters like .@rasho&ar. and .MaryamJoon..Their te"hni6ue is 6uite alarmin& as it eerily resembles the $ro$a&anda used by the +slami" *e$ubli" o' +ran to stir the $ubli" a&ainst $atrioti" (aha.i +ranians. + am not a (aha#i, but + "an ima&ine it is o''ensive to my (aha#i "om$atriots to see su"h nonsensi"al remarks dis$layed in +ranian."om. Thanks in advan"e 'or your "onsideration. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

I <ust looked up this case online

by *eality0(ites on +ue Sep 11, 2012 08160 PM P4+ )$$arently this *emy "hara"ter ended u$ bein& re%e"ted by the (ahai 'aith and the "onvi"ted Jensen, also e=$elled by the (ahais, was not mu"h o' a leader amon& the (ahais, as "laimed by AMaryam%oonA. htt$:VVen.wiki$edia.or&VwikiVMasonT*emey htt$:VVbahai0library."omVN'ileuh%TmasonTremeyT'ollowers.html More to the $oint thou&h, every &rou$, reli&ion, $oliti"al $arty, whatever, has some dubious "hara"ters. (ahais are no e="e$tion. !o what e=a"tly is the $oint o' this blo&N That )CC (ahais are "hild molesters, be"ause an individual was "onvi"ted o' lewd behaviour hal' a "entury a&oN That (ahais "ondoneVa$$rove o' "hild molestationN +s this not "lut"hin& at straws in a des$erate attem$t to $ortray a whole &rou$ o' $eo$le as $erverts be"ause o' a $ersonal vendettaN +' it is, then it is beneath "ontem$t. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

'he Bahai 1eader was con(icted in the =) 333

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 08101 PM P4+ ... +ranians have no ri&ht to $rote"t "hildren without these weird side0adventures that talk about .Mullahs. ... There were no .Mullahs. involved in the (ahai leader.s ra$e "onvi"tion, but what is 'ri&htenin& is that he wanted to establish a .house o' worshi$ in +ran.. 9o thanks. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Another Reminder for iou

by Mort Silani on +ue Sep 11, 2012 08165 PM P4+ The +slamists are &ood at: 1) ,on'is"atin& (ahai $ro$erties 'rom the most honest, the most $ea"e0lovin&, the most su""ess'ul, and the most intelli&ent +ranian minority 2) 2arassin& )'&hans, the most hardworkin& immi&rants in +ran 3) )busin& women and "hildren, the most de'enseless vi"tims o' violen"e H) Torturin& $risoners, the most unsel'ish souls o' the "ountry I) 2atin& youn&sters, the most inno"ent and beauti'ul ;) Threatenin& $ros$erous nations with dirty mis"hie' and "haos D) (ein& most violent in kee$in& sa'e a ra$ist $ro$het (e"ause o' these traits, the hy$o"rite +slamists are not 6uali'ied to %ud&e anyone. ! has a workin& %usti"e system to deal with "riminals, and doesn.t need your medieval mentality or your +slami" *etribution Caw. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

!st Amendment thanks for bein$ true to your name 333

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 05126 PM P4+ +t.s a real "ourt "ase, with real "itations to arti"les, and s"holarly sour"es showin& who these $eo$le were. +' +ranian."om.s s$a"e limitations were lon&er 0 + would be able to show more.

Kbviously, the idea o' a "ou$le o' "ree$s harmin& "hildren throu&h se=ual abuse 00 and wantin& to build a house o' worshi$ in Tehran )9E their "lose 'riendshi$ and workin& relationshi$ with )bdul (aha and his 'amily is somethin& $eo$le ou&ht to have a 'air "han"e to read and make their own minds u$ about. Eon.t $ra"titioners o' the (ahai s"hool say their 'aith >demands independent in(esti$ation of the truth>N )ny way, thanks a&ain. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

If this is not a must-read blo$3333333

by @irst )mendment on +ue Sep 11, 2012 05118 PM P4+ .........then + don.t know what is............its interestin& body, alon& with some thou&ht0 $rovokin&, in'ormative "omments has made it worthy o' readers. time..........+ ho$e those o' us who would like to "hallen&e the sub%e"t o' the blo&, would adhere to the "onte=t o' the issue at hand, instead o' "ommittin& the loathsome "rime o' +E0di&&in&, name smearin&, "hara"ter assassination and so 'orth........ +.d also like to thank our Abi& bossA, JJ, who has $rovided all o' us, on the both sides with the mu"h0needed s$a"e 'or an investi&ative work................... R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

:hy are you blamin$ me for a court decision9

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 05100 PM P4+ + thou&ht the ABahai faith encourages #eo#le to inde#endently see$ truth.A !o i' real 'a"ts 00 that you "an.t blame on .Mullahs. 00 $resent themselves, this is your answerN @ine ... but it doesn.t "han&e the %udi"ial de"ision. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

+h/ dear .uri

by *ea on +ue Sep 11, 2012 07129 PM P4+ +' that.s the "ase, am out o' here. Eon.t like the blo& anyway. ser name blo"ked, 'ine @rasho&ar. (ut to take $eo$le 'or a ride $retendin& to be a woman, a%, a%. Sreets downunder, nevertheless. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

'he inability to handle issues that should be of concern

by *eality0(ites on +ue Sep 11, 2012 05102 PM P4+ ... is to deliberately i&nore the reality that the (ahais, alon&side many other inno"ent +ranians, have been the vi"tims o' vi"ious and sustained $erse"ution by the +slami" *e$ubli" and instead lat"h on to any ne&ative s"ra$ o' dataVhearsayV"laim, no matter how old, to des$erately $ortray the (ahais as some kind o' evil se"ret so"iety bent on world domination and sub%u&atin& human kind. Kne would.ve thou&ht with all their su$$osed evil "onne"tions, that they have been a""used o' havin& over the de"ades, e.&. with the (rits, the +sraelis, the @reemasons and heaven knows how many more, the (ahais would.ve been $rote"ted 'rom the tyranny they have been sub%e"ted to in +ran. (ut no, it a$$ears this all $ower'ul Aevil se"ret so"ietyA "an.t even $rote"t itsel' or re"eive hel$ 'rom its JionistV+m$erialist ba"kers. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Reli$ion is <ust another

by Mashala on +ue Sep 11, 2012 07120 PM P4+ *eli&ion is %ust another business. +t is all about money and $ower. They all use the same tools. Sod, 2eaven and 2ell. Those with better "ustomer servi"e have the most "ustomers. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

*ffendi's % Remey's apprentice &ensen was a child rapist

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 07118 PM P4+ ... it.s a "ourt "ase.

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-y feelin$: Bahais % Israelis can't handle publication of ! case

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 07111 PM P4+ ... 'rom a "ourt.s %udi"ial "alendar. +t shows you somethin&. %oodoom ye$i a& shoma ha &aboon e ma ro balad ast' R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

:e know there on occasion are dru$-addict'd prostitutes in Iran

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 07100 PM P4+ ... but there are literally thousands in every )meri"an ma%or "ity. )nd Tel )viv has the hi&hest $er "a$ita number o' se= slaves (see video link below). That do"umentary, in"identally, o' the 2 dru&&ed out $rostitutes was $aid 'or by +srael (they are real hookers but they are 2 dru& addi"ts). 2ow many are in Cas ?e&as like that N Thousands. 2ow many in Tel )vivN Thousands. )nd the video is about "hild ra$e by a (ahai leader. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

RB
by Truthseeker: on +ue Sep 11, 2012 07105 PM P4+ 2e.s in dra& this time .... R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

ps3 prostitution is uni(ersal

by *ea on +ue Sep 11, 2012 06170 PM P4+ (ut now that you.ve mentioned it. Brostitution behind the veil, +ran. + have a lot o' links, have been workin& hard on my +*+ 'ile, %ust ask. Lo) R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

'he arch anti-Bahai hate mon$er is back on IC

by *eality0(ites on +ue Sep 11, 2012 06171 PM P4+ A9ima 2a1iniA aka A9uri )1alA aka A@ree thou&htA aka ATabar1inA aka "ountless username user on +, is ba"k now under the AMaryam%oonA moniker $eddlin& his usual hate 'illed bile a&ainst one o' the most $erse"uted &rou$s o' $eo$le in +ran. This individual.s only reason 'or e=isten"e seems to be to s$read hatred a&ainst the (ahais, as i' (ahais, as a &rou$, &o round "ommittin& &eno"ide, eatin& babies, beheadin& $eo$le, "arryin& out sui"ide bombin&s et", when it.s all be"ause he has a lon& standin& $ersonal &rievan"e a&ainst them. 2e has been banned numerous times 'rom $ostin& on +,, but be"ause he "raves attention and validation 'or his bi&otry, he kee$s "omin& ba"k $retendin& to be someone else to "ontinue s$readin& his twisted and $oisonius vitriol.

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Iran's !j year old brides

by @esen%oon2 on +ue Sep 11, 2012 06165 PM P4+ Tabnak, semi0o''i"ial news a&en"y: htt$:VVwww.tabnak.irV'aVnewsV2131I;VEF)DEF(2EF)@ E:FFEF)DEF),0E:(7E:F;EF),0EF)@EF)7 EF))EF(10EF(2E:F)EF(101<0EF(3EF)DE:FH0 EF)@EF(10E:FDEF(1E:FIEF(2E))@ EF)DE:F; MhabarKnline: htt$:VVwww.khabaronline.irVdetailV1:<F2<V 2ormo1&an 9ews: htt$:VVwww.hormo1&annews."omVBa&esV9ews02;I<.html )'tab 9ews: htt$:VVa'tabnews.irVvd"hv1n1m23nkwd.t't2.html

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.e(er fla$$ed your comment/ dear -aryam

by *ea on +ue Sep 11, 2012 06161 PM P4+ +n 'a"t, was rather annoyed with whoever had done it. @or + read Times o' +srael %ust as + read BressT? (like to know what e=tremists on both sides think). + also read ((,, @i&aro, ,orriere della !era. )nd o' "ourse, ,roatian $a$ers. Judi"ial "ase, you say. 3hen are we &oin& to see %udi"ial "ases a&ainst +*+ mullahs 'or all the "rimes "ommitted a&ainst women N +n 'a"t, + think you work 'or Mossad, lol. 9o other $erson on +, mentions +srael as mu"h as you do. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Rea - *4tremist &ewish-)ettler 0ropa$anda

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 06121 PM P4+ The last time + answered you, you 'la&&ed my "omment, whi"h was nothin& more than a link to 2aaret1 arti"le. +, nor any +ranian + have ever met, has met an +ranian with .a ten year old bride.. 2owever, there are thousands o' *ussian women tra$$ed in a$artments with bars on the windows, as admitted by +sraeli $oli"e on video (C+9M 1, Eo"umentary C+9M 2), that are bein& used as $rostitutes. Eivide the Jewish $o$ulation o' +srael (I million) by the number o' $rostitutes there (in"ludin& "hild $rostitutes) 0 then "om$are that to +ran. The )meri"an Jewish "ommunity, $arti"ularly the ,asino owners in Cas ?e&as (C+9M 3), also have a lon& history o' seriously e=$loitin& women. :hat I posted about the Bahai leader is from a <udicial case. *hetori" about +ran.s 1< year old brides is normally heard 'orm e=tremist +sraelis.

*n passant: Iran seeks to le$alise marria$e for $irls under !j

by *ea on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02167 PM P4+ There was re"ently a blo& here, on +,. The link to mohabatnews not workin& any more, + $osted the above. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

In the (ideo you posted

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02117 PM P4+ @. Slaysher says, .sin"e the time o' !ho&hi 7''endi the (ahai leaders "oordinated with +sraeli leaders.. 2e "ertainly says it has a histori"al basis. Your $oints are well taken. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

8ere is my theory333
by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02117 PM P4+ Cet us "all them the A(oardA. (y the (oard + do not mean the 2ands o' the ,ause or the 2J. The (oard had !ho&hi 7''endi murdered in 1:ID in Condon and $ro"eeded to le&ally take over all the assets, $ro$erties and monetary 'ortunes o' the 2ai'an (aha.i or&ani1ation &lobally. 3hile !ho&hi 7''endi was still alive, it was im$ossible 'or the (oard to 'ully "ontrol the 2ai'an (aha.i or&ani1ation. The (oard.s interest was to ensure that 2ai'an (aha.ism did not remain a 'amily a''air and that the 'ortunes o' this or&ani1ation devolved to them. !ho&hi 7''endi went to Condon with his ,anadian so"ialite wi'e in late 1:ID and there as he was about to $ubli"i1e his last will and testament and the name o' his su""essor amon& his male 'amily members, he was bum$ed o'' with the 'ull "om$li"ity and "oo$eration o' his wi'e. ) 'lu, a "ommon "old, was blamed 'or his demise but no auto$sy was ever allowed to determine the a"tual medi"al reasons 'or his death. 3ith !ho&hi 7''endi.s death, the (oard took over everythin& and eliminated the in'luen"e o' any rivals to its own "laim within the 2ai'an (aha.i lands"a$e. The (oard are not all Jews. (ut the (oard does have si&ni'i"ant +sraeli re$resentation. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

&ensen % Remey
by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02102 PM P4+ ,ould never have &ained si&ni'i"ant 'ollowers on their own in +ran. *emey tried, even had a hand'ul o' +ranian 'ollowers, but 'ailed be"ause his whole 'o"us was a very 3estern, )meri"an one. Jensen never attra"ted a sin&le +ranian to himsel', so 'ar as + know. )s 'ar as the *emeyites are "on"erned, thin&s "ould "han&e 'or the 'ortunes o' the Maran&ella (aha.i "ult on"e Joel Maran&ella.s desi&nated su""essor 9osrat (ahremand takes over. n'ortunately + don.t 'ind 9osrat very "harismati" or knowled&eable, but who knows. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

By that time the Israeli $o(ernment had occupied the whole thin$
by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02172 PM P4+ (e'ore it was a subsidiary, then it be"ame wholly owned. My "on"ern is what i' he had been allowed to run loose in +ran with his 'ollowers. Beo$le think that.s a %oke, but it.s not. ,an you ima&ine non0+ranians "omin& to +ran to bu&&er +ranian kidsN !i"kenin&. Beo$le need to kee$ their senses alert about these thin&s. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

I know
by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02169 PM P4+ (ut he was also e=tremely &reedy, not to mention "om$letely senile by the late .I<s, and it "ame ba"k to haunt him in the $ower stru&&le with the 2ands 'rom ID0;3 whi"h he lost. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

2ear +nlyIran
by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02160 PM P4+ )""ordin& to the .!. "ourt 00 not Mullahs 00 he was $erse"utin& )meri"an kids as an adherent o' the (ahai movement. 3hat does that have to do with the &overnment o' +ranN R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

,rasho$ar/ Remey was in the inner circle of the Israeli Bahais

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02165 PM P4+ (ut + "an.t say + disa&ree with what you said.

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&ensen
by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02162 PM P4+ 3as bona 'ide "ra1y. !o was *emey in my book. )bbas 7''endi a$$ears to have $la"ed watermelons under the arm$its o' all the wron& $eo$le in 9orth )meri"a. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Remey who was a close associate of Abdul Baha

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02162 PM P4+ ... was su$$osed to hel$ build a (ahai buildin& in Tehran. )bdul (aha and his son died, and then they made their own bran"h o' the (aha.is. 2owever, + want to em$hasi1e that some o' the harshest "riti"s o' the (aha.i movement have been the Joroastrians0+ranians o' +ndia and Bakistan. + will $ut u$ an arti"le 'rom the memoirs o' one the Joroastrian leaders on this issue, in"ludin& one o' his $rivate letters + 'ound. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

1eland &ensen was an Associate of Remey/ Remey of Abdul Baha

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02160 PM P4+ ... they went on to do other thin&s, in"ludin& Jensen who served a $rison senten"e 'or "hild ra$e. @a"ts are 'a"ts. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

+nlyiran
by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02160 PM P4+ This re&ards the Jensen ( B, "ult. This &rou$ are the in'amous "ovenant breakers and enemies o' those who 'ollow the 2J in 2ai'a. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

;ood find
by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02161 PM P4+ This do"ument is revealin& o' the a"tivities o' the enemies and "om$etitors o' the 2ai'ans here. @or those who don.t know, Celand Jensen was the 'ounder o' the s"hismati" (aha.i se"t known as the Baha'is =nder the 0ro(isions of the Co(enant whi"h is a wa"ky a$o"aly$ti" (aha.i "ult mi=in& (ibli"al s$e"ulation with all kinds o' weird nonsense. The 'ounder o' the (ran"h Eravidian 3a"o "ult, Eavid Moresh, was brie'ly asso"iated with Celand Jensen be'ore he broke with him. The 2ai'ans des$ise these $eo$le 0 even tried suin& them re"ently 0 and in return they des$ise the 2ai'ans. R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

Bahais are now child rapists9\\

by Knlyiran on +ue Sep 11, 2012 02126 PM P4+ The 6uestion is how lon& will the administers o' this site allow this hate s$ee"h to "ontinue on their site a&ainst a $erse"uted +ranian minorityN Blease &o ahaed and 'eature this one too. !hameU