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THE KECKSBURG UFO CRASH: An Interim Report
Stan Gordon, Pennsylvania State Director
Late in the afternoon of December members of the U.S. Army, Air Force, was moving at a slow rate of speed,
9, 1965, an event took place near the Navy and NASA all had a part in the made several turns, was apparently try-
small village of Kecksburg in recovery and/or examination of the ob- ing to gain altitude over the ridge, and
Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, ject in question. While the Kecksburg seemingly hovered before making a
that 25 years later would still puzzle Incident has been the talk of the local "slow" descent into the wooded area.
local residents, and continue to cause area for many years, more recently the More recently uncovered information
much interest to both the public and the case became nationally exposed when suggests other interesting anomalies
UFO research community. NBC's "Unsolved Mysteries" featured associated with the descending object,
I was 16 years old when this incident the case as their Season Premiere on but much more research must be done
occurred not far from my hometown. September 19, 1990. Prior to the airing to clarify these details.
It was apparent after the event occur- of the show, myself and other PASU The more we know of the object in
red, that something of interest to the members had been busy following up question, the more we have to wonder
military had caused them to swiftly on many new informants on the case. what indeed was this device? Could it
react, and the Air Force explanation of After the show aired, over 100 have been an actual Extraterrestrial
a meteor as the cause of the sighting responses relevant to the case came our craft that apparently had problems with
did not correspond to information that way. Some of the information came its propulsion system, or was this a
had spread through the local areas, from anonymous sources, and therefore highly secretive mission to recover a
weeks later after the event. isn't considered as reliable data. manmade probe (from an Earthly na-
But the local media quickly dropped However, other key informants did sur- tion) that was highly sophisticated for
the story, and didn't pursue the many face whose information helped fill gaps what many scientists tell us that man
witnesses who had been involved with from the statements we had from other was capable of constructing in 1965?
activities around the village that night, observers.
B
some of whom would surface during y the time this report is pub-
the next 25 years to reveal their pieces e have now interviewed many lished, the 25th Anniversary of
to the puzzle as to what really occur-
red, and what was really found in the
woods that night. During the week after
W dozens of people who were
involved in the Kecksburg in-
cident. These involve both civilian and
the Kecksburg case will have
passed, and important details relative
to this event will have been released
the incident, John Murphy (now de- former military personnel. Those inter- though the local news media. This in-
ceased), the News Director of WHJB viewed include witnesses to the slow formation suggests that the government
radio in Greensburg, along with his moving object heading into Kecksburg, has the object in their hands, and that
staff, put together a radio documentary (four) independent observers who saw it was stated to have been an Alien
on the Kecksburg UFO incident called the object on the ground prior to the Spacecraft. Since our informants can't
"Object in the Woods." The program arrival of the military (we also know be identified per their request, we have
was aired, but in a censored version. of a deceased party who told his wife utilized a local news reporter who has
Some local residents who would be that he saw the metallic object in the spent some time on this case, to act as
interviewed later remembered an woods), firemen who drove military of- a mediator. This media source will
uneasiness around the village after the ficers through the fields that led to the abide by the same rules of confidentiali-
event, and rumors of government impact site, firemen who witnessed the ty as myself and the PASU team to pro-
threats and payoffs still persist today. military usage of the Kecksburg Firehall tect the identity of witnesses. She will
Since the event, I have been keeping as a temporary command post, infor- however, be able to interview them
records on the case, but during the last mants who saw the military operation directly, and be able to see and verify
10 years, multiple independent wit- taking place in various sections of the our documentation of testimonies.
nesses have been surfacing who now village, and others who have knowledge I have been swamped with requests
begin to show the pattern of a major as to where the object was transported from UFO researchers and publications
military operation that involved the to, and what was done with it. for update information on the case. In
quick response recovery of an Uniden- During the second half of 1990, in- the past I have written some articles on
tified Flying Object. formation began to surface from new the incident. At this time we are spend-
Testimony from people directly in- witnesses indicating that the object's ing much time and effort tracking down
volved at the site that night, as well as maneuverability was quite interesting. other leads on the case, and interview-
other informants, suggests that Our data now suggests that the object ing more witnesses, and documenting
the
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GREENSBURG, PA., FRIDAY, DECEMBER 10, 1965.
all of these records. It will take many tion is why this group of people were event, and a part of UFO history. If you
months of research to gather just the so emotionally driven to try to cause have any information on the case
data that we are aware of at this time. doubt as to whether or not the incident please contact us by writing to PASU,
Rather than to give segments of the occurred. The media picked up on this 6 Oakhill Ave., Greensburg. PA 15601,
case, we will in the future publish up- part of the story as well, and suggested or phone our Hotline at 412-838-7768.
date reports on our findings. While our that much of the town was putting down
past published information on the case the story. This is indeed not the case.
is generally accurate, some new details, The Kecksburg Fire Department was
and further interviews with witnesses given the model of the UFO built for
have clarified some points, and some the "Unsolved Mysteries" show. They
small details will be corrected in future have made a permanent monument of
reports. the object on the roof of the original
While the Kecksburg case is a highly truck station after unanimous vote of the
interesting topic of conversation around membership. On December 9, 1990, a
Westmoreland County, a few Kecksburg 25th Anniversary UFO Dance was held
residents were highly upset that the to commemorate the event. The Fire
UFO incident was going to make na- Department sold tee shirts, caps and
tional TV. This small group in fact sent sweat shirts to get the word out to the
a petition to NBC to try to block the public.
airing of the program. The big ques- The Kecksburg Case is a major Stan Gordon
S Greensburg-based Pennsylvania
Association for the Study of the
Unexplained, said the witnesses - in
of the compound.
He said the truck passed a few feet
in front of him and the object on the
structed by their boss not to discuss
anything they might observe at the
compound.
separate interviews - described it as a back appeared to be twice the size of "We were unloading the bricks onto
bronze-colored, acorn-shaped object a Volkswagen. pallets, and me and my cousin decided
about 12 feet long and 10 feet in Adams said he was relieved of guard to sneak inside to see what all the
diameter. Each said it was wrapped duty at 6 or 7 a.m. and learned later secrecy was about," Cummings said.
with a band of unintelligible markings. the truck, still carrying the object, left "Guards immediately ordered us out...
Despite the men's accounts, some in the base at 7:30 a.m. en route to Wright but not before we saw it."
Kecksburg insist the reports are nothing Patterson Air Force base, 100 miles Cummings said he saw a dark
more than fabricated nonsense. They west near Dayton. bronze, bell-shaped object about 14 feet
In the first week of December, Inter- the accolades he has received. your Deputy.
national Director Walt Andrus sent 2) The gentleman had no previous As drawn by Mrs. Menzer, the ap-
copies of over a dozen of the Walters' substantial interest in the UFO subject. proximate two-inch strip contains the
UFO photos to an independent optical 3) Neither Walt nor I will be com- incomplete notation "...vg A. 1740,"
expert for computerized analysis and municating with him as he proceeds ex- below which is the incomplete notation
other precise measurements. These in- cept possibly to provide additional "...B 2393." The September 1989
volve all the major claimed events by the materials, should he so request, or to design prepared for and sent to the
Walters family. Walt had previously respond to any questions which may Thomases contains the notations "1740
taken 35 mm close-ups of the original arise on his part. Walt has instructed LA" and "2393." As confirmed by the
polaroids, and the forwarded prints were the few others who know his identity Thomases, the living area (i.e. "(L)vg
made from those negatives. Therefore, and location not to communicate same A." and later expressed as "LA") was
the quality of each is presumably close to anyone in any manner. to be 1740 square feet. The "(SLA)B
to the original polaroid print. 4) The gentleman has indicated that 2393" shown on the blueprint likewise
The recipient of these photos is a his conclusions will be based solely on coincides with the simply expressed
decades-long expert in optics and ap- the physical characteristics inherent in "2393" on the graph paper design in
plied sciences with a background in the photographs and not on any cir- their possession. Moreover, the
physics. He is self-employed as a cumstantial evidence, either pertaining blueprint shows what appears to be a
photography consultant and was highly to the Walters' account or any other partial street address on Jamestown
recommended. Among his earlier UFO account in the Pensacola area. Drive. The Thomases confirmed that
achievements, he analyzed photographs If his conclusions are negative, before the house which would have been built
for the National Geographic. The in- publishing the results Walt will for them in late 1989 was to be at the
dividual's name is being withheld so as presumably seek the reaction of Bruce corner of Jamestown Drive and
to avoid any influence or interruption. Maccabee, himself a laser and optical Shoreline Avenue.
His son, also a photo expert, is assisting. physicist who has spent hundreds of As a supporting point, I personally
A report is not expected for at least hours pouring over the photos. After calculated the square footage of the liv-
several months and may entail prior three years and so much time expended ing area from the Thomases' graph
publication in a refereed scientific jour- by so many people, after all, we want design, which totals 1740 square feet.
nal. It should be noted that, due to to be sure beyond a reasonable doubt. In that Ed Walters builds only custom-
MUFON's limited funds as well as his designed homes, it is extremely unlikely
interest in the case, the gentleman The Model that he would have built two homes less
agreed to waive his normal - substan- than three years apart which had a
tial - fee for the computerized examina- Concerning the UFO model found in Jamestown Drive location and those
tion of the photos. the attic/garage of the former Walters' precise dimensions. No one has ques-
This case has drawn many specula- home, there is now sufficient documen- tioned the veracity of either the
tions, caused hard feelings among earlier tation to conclude it was created some- Thomases or the Menzers regarding
colleagues, and perplexed the general time after September 1989, that is, well their willing testimony.
membership. The subplots and com- after all of the Walters' claims had con- The living-area and concrete slab
plexity are worthy of a Frank Herbert cluded on May 1, 1988. dimensions confirmed by the Thomases
trilogy. However, the central (and only Two exhibits were used in reaching and recalculated by myself are telling
REAL) question relates to the photos this conclusion: (1) a carefully drawn evidence. The location of the prospec-
themselves. With credit to Walt Andrus, recreation by the Menzers, current tive home on the corner of Jamestown
we will in time have an absolutely in- owners of the former Walters' home, of and Shoreline further supports Ed
dependent expert analysis. In the in- the blueprint strip used as the midpor- Walters' claim that the Thomas graph
terim, I wish to clarify the following: tion of the saucer model, and (2) the paper design and the blueprint strip on
1) Prior to agreeing to send the September 1989 design on graph paper the model are of the same home — both
Walters' photos for analysis, neither Walt by Ed Walters of a home originally con- drawn in September 1989 and therefore
Andrus nor anyone else within MUFON tracted by (but never built for) Mr. and well after the Walters' experiences had
management had any acquaintance with Mrs. Lynn Thomas, the details of concluded.
the person. The decision to use his which were confirmed by the Thomases
talents and facilities was made solely on in a telephone conversation initiated by Continued on page 22
New York abstract artist Budd ment behavior. We all remember and the power of conspiracy thinking.
Hopkins is a leading abduction inves- Watergate, Nixon's lies, the lies of the A fascinating article in California
tigator and the author of Missing Reagan administration on Iran-Contra, Magazine dealt with a man who
Time (1981) and Intruders (1987). the decades of coverup on the UFO believes in "taking government back
issue, the S & L scandal and on and from its false leaders" and giving it to
In a country as violent as ours we on. Sadly, we have good reason to be the world's peoples. He propounds his
have become accustomed to murder, constantly suspicious of our leaders. outwardly unexceptionable ideas
mayhem, plots and mysteries. Since Even worse is the fact that as political wherever and whenever the chance
these disturbing cultural artifacts can- and international affairs have grown arises, but he states the dark side of the
not be made to go away, entrepreneurs more complex and depressing, so has "plot against the people" as an
have realized that they can be exploited the texture of daily life itself. Taken established fact: a major political figure
as a perverse new form of entertain- together, AIDS, crime, drugs, pollution was assassinated before he was able to
ment. and the state of the economy have speak the truth. Wendell Wilkie, he
The supermarket tabloids long ago created a, deep uncertainty about the avers, was the assassination victim, and
understood the profit potential of such future, leading inexorably to what might the story that Wilkie died of a heart at-
a mournful situation. They have learned be called a national feeling of help- tack in 1944 was a mere invention.
how to regale, week after week, the lessness. In this unstable context the The man who says these things is a
same tired people in the same ex- desire for simple answers spreads and soap manufacturer who calls himself
hausting checkout lines with ever more becomes ever more urgent. Ambigui- Dr. Bronner, though he refers to himself
ghastly and outrageous crimes and con- ty becomes intolerable. We want to also as a rabbi. He is neither a rabbi
spiracies, carried out, always, by the know! The ground is set for the doom- nor a medical doctor, and Bronner is
rich and famous. For the tabloid pur- sayer, the charlatan, the one who makes not the name he was given at birth, but
chasers, as with the fans of professional sense of it all by telling us who or we will let those issues pass; conspiracy
wrestling, belief in what they're seeing what to blame. Whoever exposes the theorists are never strong on facts.
and reading is far less important then "plot that created this mess" will ride Bronner has a simple theory, freighted
the momentary frisson of fear, excite- high. with paranoid notions, and though he
ment and tongue-clucking. was evidently hospitalized for psych-
f course, a tragic historical ological reasons at some point in his
O
"Imagine! Natalie Wood was mur-
dered because Elvis was about to turn precedent immediately comes life, that circumstance has not prevented
her in to Teddy Kennedy as a Soviet to mind: Germany in the late him from developing something of a
counterspy! The paper says that the twenties and early thirties. There, following around the country. Ap-
KGB evidently got to her first. I didn't runaway inflation, unemployment and parently there really are Bronnerites
know Elvis even knew her." Or, equal- social chaos had many causes, too com- about, discussing the Wilkie assassina-
ly, "Did you see Hulk Hogan on TV plex to be easily understood. But one tion and the powerful secret forces that
last night? The challenger was trying man came forward with a simple once drugged their leader and im-
to strangle him and he was almost dead answer; all these troubles were the prisoned him in a mental hospital.
and the referee really had to save his result of plots by the communists and
life." the Jewish bankers, Q.E.D. . Cooper
Believability in these cases is beside We know who presented that
the point. Central is the illusion the fans mindless idea and what its horrendous A man named William Cooper, who
demand of having been shown the results were; the lesson is clear. From speaks frequently about UFOs, presents
horrible "truth" from the inside. With this comes what I'll call the First an interesting parallel with Doctor/
all too many people, juicy conspiracy Hopkins Law of Social Behavior in Dif- Rabbi Bronner. Like the Doctor/Rab-
theories are, like intellectual junk food, ficult Times: "The greater the complex- bi, Cooper's credentials - in this case
as gnawingly necessary to their diets as ity of the problem, the greater the ap- as a self-proclaimed highly-placed
sugar or fat or alcohol. peal of any simple solution, no matter Naval Intelligence man - are somewhat
Though this kind of quasi-paranoia how stupid, false or irrelevant." cloudy. (There is also confusion about
may provide perverse excitement and While on a visit to Santa Barbara the reason for his discharge from the
a pleasant, self-indulgent pastime, it is recently, two parallel situations came service.) But Cooper's message, like
also partly a by-product of real govern- to mind to illustrate my behavioral law Bronner's, is simple, though infinitely
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Zurich hereby bestows the AWARD FOR EXOPSYCHOLOGY 1990
with 20,000 Swiss Franc to
DIPL. PHYS. ILLOBRAND von LUDWIGER, WEST GERMANY
in recognition for his long standing, exact scientific exploration of the
UFO phenomenon and for his publication of the deserving and elaborate
10 volumes of MUFON-CES.
This award was presented on February 16, 1990 in connection with
the GV of the Swiss Association of Parapsychology, Bern/Biel in the
University of Bern.
In the name of the Foundation's Council:
Jerome Clark, vice president of (1) Where in the world, for example, the UFO controversy, and in doing the
CUFOS and editor of International did you get the idea that the material research I have pored over an enormous
UFO Reporter, is the author of UFOs consisted of a "truckload of paper"? amount of material, trying to recon-
in the 1980s, the first volume of the Since you put those words in quotation struct just what early ufologists really
UFO Encyclopedia series. Volume 2, marks, surely you have a source. (2) thought and what they did. One thing
The Emergence of a Phenomenon Can you cite the name of one firsthand I am writing about is early ufologists'
dealing with the history of the UFO witness who agrees that the object was views of crashed-disc claims. I have
controversy through 1959, will be a balloon? It's all fine and dandy to in- learned that far from being "revived
published in 1991. sult informants or speculate about the every few years," Roswell was not even
nefarious reasons for their stubborn discussed in the UFO literature until
Dear John: refusal to provide testimony that con- 1966, when Frank Edwards briefly dealt
I was amused to read your rejoinders forms to what you want to believe, but with it in Flying Saucers — Serious
to Stanton Friedman, Don Schmitt and surely among the many people who saw Business. That same year, in his little-
Kevin Randle in the January 1991 issue the material, there must be somebody read (and British-published) The Fly-
of Fate ("The Roswell Furor," pp who told the tale you need to hear. Let's ing Saucer Story, Brinsley Le Poer
55-69). In this changing world it's have his name and his account. The Trench mentions in passing an English
something of a relief to see that you people who've done the real work at actor's report that while driving through
haven't lost your touch. As an enter- Roswell have provided the names and America in "June 1947" he thought he
tainer you're top notch. As somebody accounts of plenty of people who tell heard an "announcement that a flying
from whom serious people looking for another kind of story. It would be an saucer had crashed in New Mexico" —
a rational perspective on the UFO unskeptical inquirer indeed who would no further details on location or
phenomenon should seek guidance, take your theory seriously without a anything else, though judging from the
well ... single confirmation anywhere. paragraphs that follow, Trench thought
Your recent article reminded me of Anyway, that aside, I want to return this incident was one of those Frank
a favorite expression of former Fate to a subject I addressed in a letter last Scully wrote about three years later.
editor Mary Fuller's, always uttered year — a letter to which, perhaps Neither treatment, in any case, had any
after reading a particularly fatuous understandably, you did not respond, impact.
manuscript from a would-be con- I assume because you could not do so. The next findable references are the
tributor: "There's not a fact in a carload Let me try again. next year, in Ted Bloecher's Report on
here!" You don't even seem to know Repeatedly you say, again without the UFO Wave of 1947 and in a Look
what's in your own books. You refer, citing any supporting evidence what- magazine one-shot called Flying
for example, to UFOs: Operation Tro- ever, that ufologists created the Roswell Saucers, where the Roswell incident is
jan Horse, asserting that samples of the incident, "by juggling and manipulating treated briefly as a silly mistake
Corona "hieroglyphics" (I assume witness testimony" — something, by resulting from a downed weather
that's what you mean by "that the way, that you are doing in rejecting balloon. That's the first time /
material") were published there. They any (which means all) testimony that remember hearing about Roswell (I've
were not, nor, your implication to the fails to substantiate the Fugo-balloon been interested in UFOs since 1957, so
contrary, is the Roswell incident men- "theory"; your sole "informant" is an I have a pretty good idea of what
tioned anywhere. alleged "local historian there" whose ufologists have been talking about
Stan, Don and Kevin will have no name you "can no longer recall." I'm since), though I had read Edwards'
trouble cutting up your arguments, not accusing you of deliberate dishones- book the year before. Evidently, in
which seem to have more to do with ty, but I don't trust your memory. If that common with just about every other
unfettered imagination than with historian exists, let's have his or her reader, Edwards' account stuck in my
evidence or documentation; but then name and find out what he or she has memory for about as long as it took to
that wonderful imagination of yours has in the way of relevant evidence. read it. (I didn't read Trench's book.)
always been your stock in trade, and References to crashed-disc cases in
that's fine (though I could do without ou write that the "Roswell thing the early literature are surprisingly rare
the ad hominem stuff that always ac-
companies it). Nonetheless I can't resist
asking a couple of obvious questions:
Y has been revived every few
years." As it happens, I am
writing a book on the early history of
and are largely skeptical; see, for in-
stance, Civilian Saucer Intelligence
Quarterly Bulletin, September 1952,
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