Estulin Brazil interview

Although you´re a well known communication professional, did you expect that
such a big editorial group, like Planeta, would publish your book --taking into
consideration the information it brings?

Planeta is a unique case in the publishing world. Their guiding principle is the
quality of the work and never political considerations. Naturally, we have had
more than one meeting with Planeta´s lawyers to review the content. Planeta
even had one researcher doing nothing else but investigating the veracity of my
sources. When over 1,000 sources I include in my first book all proved to be
accurate, Planeta gave the green light to have the book published. Your book
brings tremendously serious facts but it hasn´t had much repercution in the
mainstream media, an apparent paradox that gets explained when one reads
"Club Bilderberg".

Have you followed up how your book has been treated in Brazil? Do you get
interested in knowing how your book is seen in different countries, specially in
the so called Third World, perhaps less "strategical" and even unimportant to
bilderbergers?

If you mean U.S. mainstream media, then yes, you are correct. They have
pretty much ignored me. However, on the world stage, we have sold the rights
to the book to 37 countries and 21 languages, including Japan, Switzerland,
France and Germany. We have also signed a contract with an independent
Hollywood studio to make a Major Motion picture version of La Verdadera
Historia del Club Bilderberg. Certainly in Europe, my book has had a
tremendous acceptance from the mainstream press. Only in Spain, this past
week, with the launching of my second book on the Bilderbergers, we have
done almost 100 interviews with TV, radio and newpapers. I am aware, for
example, that in Venezuela and Colombia the first edition of the book sold out in
less than four hours. That Mexico tried to ban the book, but because of popular
support and internet, finally relented and now the book is selling extremely well
there, too. I have no knowledge of how the book si doing in Brazil, given that it
has just come out. Your book is the result of more than a decade of
investigations.

According to your investigations, the Club intends, in resume, to dominate the

world and all human beings through an unique government, Army, legal system,
currency, education, using to that the most important communication media and
psychologycal methods. All hidden under an "ONU umbrella" and with a
strategy not only clearly set up years ago but already running and in full speed.
At the beginning of your book, you write, among other things, that "Unesco was
created to destroy educational system". You are an expert on communication
and have helped many executives to get their ideas expressed. Do you think
that people is ready to understand and believe what you are saying?

There is really only two ways to understand my book. Either you dismiss it
outright as pure nonsense and go on living your happy little life as always or you
question what I say and develop critical thinking. People have always known
and suspected that governments do not truly control their own destiny. That
behind “unexplained” murders, political assassinations and other strange events
lurks something much bigger and not so easily dismissed. What I have done in
La Verdadera Historia del Club Bilderberg is put names and faces to the evil
deeds. Also, no one has ever been able to refute the veracity and accuracy of
my investigations, which include photos and documents.

In some parts of the book you describe several murder intents you´ve suffered,
the woman in red dress, the meeting at the Trust Tower with the lift episode. Of
course, as a journalist you had in mind showing Club Bilderberg aims, through
joining facts, investigation, data and a fluent reading, but sometimes --and much
because of the books´ content-- the reader may have the impresion that
"Bilderberg" is some kind of James Bond novel. Did you have this concern, that
people --because what you´re telling is so fantastic-- would get interested in the
"adventurous" side of your life and not in what you´re trying to show?

Naturally, Bilderbergers attract a very strange mix of conspiracy theorists and

outright crazies. The fact that a group of very powerful people meet secretly
once per year, protected by a throng of CIA, Mossad, MI6 and elite security
firms gives rise to many unsubstantiated conspiracies such as the one where
Bilderbergers are called Illuminati or the one that postulates that Bilderberger
forerunners were the authors of Priors of Zion or the one I learned at this year’s
Bilderberg conference where one protester confidently told me that “the King of
the Bilderbergers is the Black Pope of the Jesuits.” All this is pure nonsense
and I stay as far away from these people as possible. As an investigative
journalist, I don’t deal in conspiracy theories, I deal in conspiracy facts.
Everything I write is substantiated by hard documented evidence. Which is one
of the reasons why the Bilderbergers have never tried to challenge the veracity
of anything I write.

You speak Russian, Italian and Spanish, apart from English, have detective
friends as well as informers from the inside of the Club. How do you live today, I
mean, you have many other activities beyond following Bilderberg steps. How
do you manage to live your "normal life" (family, friends etc) taking into account
that you’ve been challenging for 13 years the most powerful organization in the
world?

I, unfortunately, do not have a normal life. I have 24 hour a day protection from
several teams of special former agents living in Spain. As a result of my
Bilderberger investigations, I have lost some dear friends who had decided that
it would be wiser not to have anything to do with me than risk being killed. I
respect their decisions, although, as you must understand, it saddens me
greatly. Overall, however, most of the people I love and respect have
maintained a very close friendship in the face of such daunting challenges.

How is your regular routine? Which simple, routine precautions do you take in
your daily life? And concerning your family?

You must understand that I do not work alone. No mere mortal could have
access to such sensitive information without help from extremely powerful
forces, whose identity I can never reveal. I am simply, the public face of a very
powerful secret organization working against the Bilderbergers.

You´ve written that "happiness is understandable only under threats". That´s the
way you´ve managed to unite your personal life and your main cause in life, that
is to destroy Bilderberg Club? Is that so?

I am not trying to destroy anything. The ideals of the Bilderbergers can easily be
traced back in History. The Romans tried, in vain, to create their own version of
a World Government, the so-called Roman Empire. They lacked the knowledge
of today to subjugate population to their will. What the Bilderbergers are trying
to do is to create a World Company where everyone, from governments to
people will be subservient to them. That´s what they call One World
Gevernment. I simply do not wish to live under these oppressive conditions and
my books shed the light of truth on the Bilderberger plans. More than anything
else, however, I wish for people to acquire a sense of critical thinking,
something in this age of dumbing down population is sadly lacking.

You´ve launched a second book on Bilderberg Club, about both its cultural
enterprises --including Beatles, Rolling Stones, MTV-- and its control on drugs
business. Are the Beatles and the Rolling Stones a Bilderberg invention?

I think it would be more accurate to say that the idea of Popular Music was a
Bilderberg-Tavistock creation. They called it “changing the paradigm” of society.
The innocent-looking Beatles that inaugurated modern electronic-rock music, in
the early 1960s were more than just a rock band. Neither was it the advent of a
spontaneous rebellion by youth against the old social system. In historical
context, they were part of a huge government engineered [directed secretly
from British Psychological Warfare Division] mass experimentation of cultural
conditioning against contemporary society as an outstanding example of social
conditioning to accept change, even when it is recognized as unwelcome
change by the large population group, which has been overseen by the CIA,
Britain's MI6 and the Tavistock Institute utilizing extraordinarily powerful mind-
altering psychedelic/psychotropic drugs as well as the latest information
gleaned from studies into human behaviour through the medium of radio and
television. You´re 40 years old today. In what are you working now? I am
working on a book about Tavistock Institute for Human Relations, the premier
brainwashing institute in the world responsible for shaping the moral, spiritual,
cultural, political and economic decline of Western World and a book on the
Venetian Nobility and their take over of England in 1588. By the way, the then
Venetians are the present day Bilderbergers.

Could you tell us about yourself, your adventure of journalism? I have always
been fascinated by mysteries and crime solving. I guess, investigative
journalism of the kind I practice is a combination of the two. The feeling of
finding a buried treasure - be it a literal or a euphemistic one is something only
those who have dedicated their lives to discovering can really understand.
When I unravel a mystery, be it international Bilderberger controlled drug trade,
which incidentally took me close to a decade to crack or the real story behind
the Watergate crisis that removed a legitimate elected President from power or
the truth behind Pope John Paul II´s assassination attempt, I feel the way I
imagine Howard Carter must have felt in 1922 when he discovered a nearly
intact tomb of an Egyptian Pharaon Tutankhamun. That deed sparked a
renewed public interest in Ancient Egypt. With my work on the Bilderbergers I
hope to capture the general public’s fancy and help expose the secret world
cabal known as the Bilderberg Club.

Why did you start to investigate on the Bilderberg Group?

In the very early 1990s, just as the last vestiges of the Soviet Empire were
crumbling into oblivion, a friend, member of the KGB counter intelligence
apparatus during an intimate dinner told me of a very powerful and secretive
organization known as the Bilderbergers. Behind this secret society is a
contemporary network of powerful private merchant-banking interests of
medieval Venetian financier oligarchical model known as fondi. British and
Dutch East India Companies, the forerunners of the Council of the 300 and the
Bilderbergers are examples of these private merchant banks. Their final
objective is a post-industrial society. Actually, their real name is Synarchists.
"Synarchism" is used to define a new concept of political alliances by an
international brotherhood of financiers and industrialists through a unity of the
socialists and the anarchists on fascist principles. According to a top secret 18
page French military intelligence report dated July 1941, summarising a 100-
page dossier on the French Synarchist groups: “The Synarchist movement’s
aim is essentially to overthrow in every country, where they exist the
parliamentary regimes which are considered insufficiently devoted to the
interests of these groups and, therefore, too difficult to control because of the
number of persons required to control them.” Therefore, it is not too difficult to
understand that the intention behind each and all of the Bilderberg meetings is
about how to create a Synarchist “Aristocracy of purpose” between Europe and
the United States, and how to come to agreement on questions of policy,
economics, and strategy in jointly ruling the world. The NATO alliance was their
crucial base of operation and subversion because it afforded them the backdrop
for their plans of [perpetual war], or at least for their [nuclear blackmail] policy.
What were the main issues discussed, and the principal decisions made during
this year’s meeting in Canada in June 2006? Energy, of course was the primary
item on this year’s agenda. As I reported in my last year’s Bilderberg report, the
secret society is extremely concerned about a phenomenon known as Peak Oil.
It was revealed by my sources, full time members of the Bilderberger elite that
in one of the discussion forums led by Henry Kissinger, the Bilderbergers have
set a US$150/barrel price for oil within the next two years. That was in 2005, at
the time when oil cost US$39. It doubled since last year. If it doubles again this
year, we will have reached the Bilderberger estimate of US$150/barrel. Eurasia
was another important item on the list of discussions. From what has emerged
from their Saturday, June 10 morning session, European Bilderbergers are
convinced that the United States has been out-flanked by a combined Russian-
Chinese foreign policy in its now-obvious strategy of controlling major oil and
energy sources of the Persian Gulf and Central Asia Caspian basin. In fact, one
French Bilderberger called this US´s worse diplomatic defeat in half a century.
Iraq was prominent on the agenda with Richard Perle leading the discussion
forum titled “What now?” in clear reference to a post Zarqawi Iraq. Perle spoke
of the need to find a new strategy for Iraq now that Zarqawi was dead. At which
point one French delegate categorically told the forum that the United States
does not have a new strategy for Iraq and selling used up and failed ideas as
something new is a travesty and an insult. What is more significant though is
that another Bilderberg, when granted a turn to speak, very plainly stated that “it
is far easier to start wars than to end them,” and that the end to Iraq war
depended on the resistance and not the United States government. Additionally,
Bilderbergers are concerned that Latin America, led by Venezuelan President
Hugo Chavez will use oil as a weapon to block expansion of NAFTA throughout
the Western Hemisphere. One American delegate expressed a “need to
address a real possibility of Venezuela using manipulation of oil supplies and
prices to form an economic union that would include Brazil, Cuba and Mexico.”
It would add to a growing list of Bilderberger set backs in Latin America,
specifically a refusal to join NAFTA which would wreck Bilderberg’s long-
standing goal of expanding NAFTA throughout the Western Hemisphere and
evolving it into an “American Union” patterned after the European Union.

Bilderbergers were also designing specific strategies to deal with Chavez’s

announcement that he would exact new taxes on companies that extract oil
from his country. Bilderberg´s Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands and companies
such as Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp, Conoco-Phillips, Total, BP PLC and
Norway’s Statoil ASA all form part of the Bilderberg Club. Another point of real
concern for the Bilderbergers is Chavez´s “in your face” attitude by offering oil at
low prices to impoverished locations in the United States and Britain. “This
would set a negative precedent,” reported one American Bilderberger.