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Retired general, lieutenant colonel join reservists lawsuit over Obama's birth status
7/15/2009 8:55:21 PM
Looks like some may smell blood.
controversial suit brought by a U.S. Army reservist has been joined by a retired Army two-star general
and an active reserve Air Force lieutenant colonel.
Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook filed the suit July 8 in federal court here asking for conscientious objector
status and a preliminary injunction based upon his belief that Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen
of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
But before the issue got to court, Cooks orders to deploy to Afghanistan were revoked. Lt. Col. Maria
Quon, U.S. Army Public Affairs Officer, U.S. Army Human Resources Command-St. Louis, said Tuesday
that Cook was no longer expected to report Wednesday to MacDill Air Force Base in Florida for
mobilization to active duty. Cook, who claims he is now the victim of retaliation due to his suit, received
his mobilization orders to report for active duty at MacDill on July 15. From there he was to go to Fort
Benning, on July 18, for deployment to Afghanistan.
Cook is an Individual Mobilization Augmentee (IMA). This means hes a reserve soldier assigned to an
active component unit consisting of active duty soldiers instead of a reserve unit, which is composed
entirely of reserve soldiers. He is assigned to the U.S. Army Element of U.S. Southern Command.
Last week Cook filed a request in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a
conscientious objector represented by California attorney Orly Taitz.
The government, in its response to the suit, claims that Cooks suit is moot in that he has already been
told he doesnt have to go to Afghanistan, so the relief he is seeking has already been granted.
The Commanding General of SOCCENT (U.S. Special Operations Central Command) has determined that
he does not want the services of Major Cook, and has revoked his deployment orders, the response
states.
Taitz argues in a pleading revised following the revocation of Cooks orders, that the application for
preliminary injunction is not moot and that retired Maj. Gen. Carol Dean Childers and U.S. Air Force
Active Reservist Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff have joined the suit because it is a matter of unparalleled
public interest and importance and because it is clearly a matter arising from issues of a recurring nature
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that will escape review unless the Court exercises its discretionary jurisdiction.
Cooks resubmitted Application for Preliminary Injuction is meant to encompass the possibility of Cook
receiving future orders for deployment as well as to address and prevent negative collateral
consequences such as retaliation against Major Stefan Frederick Cook ...
As to the retaliation issue, the revised suit states Cook lost his job at Simtech, Inc., a corporation that
does Department of Defense contracting in the field of information technology/systems integration,
because of the suit and has additionally been subjected to gossip from people who believed Cook was
manipulating his deployment orders to create a platform for political purposes.
Taitz, who has also challenged the legitimacy of Barack Obamas presidency in other courts, filed the
original suit with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia.
In the filing, Cook states he would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military
actions outside the United States under this Presidents command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself
to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking news/story/778 82.html
7/15/2009 8:57:2 PM
Soooo... where s the active duty folks
And hasn t the General (ret) been raising cane a while yet to no avail
7/15/2009 8:58:29 PM
While I m not planning on following suit, I don t know if I could call these guys cowards. Whether MAJ
Cook wants to deploy or not I don t know but it does seem to take some amount of courage to take on
the legal task he has started.
7/15/2009 8:59: PM
This shit is getting really interesting.
As a Reservist who works full time with active duty, I m a little troubled by his CO status. I ve gone when
called times now, and plenty of times I volunteered because it was a good mission. I d like to know
how many deployments he has done, and wish I could know for sure that this just has to do with the
CIC.
7/15/2009 9:00:00 PM
The Commanding General of SOCCENT (U.S. Special Operations Central Command) has determined that
he does not want the services of Major Cook, and has revoked his deployment orders
...just as we suspected in the other thread.
No one wants to deploy with a cowardly whiner.
Calling this a "victory" is odd.
He s been rejected and disgraced.
7/15/2009 9:00:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
I d like to know how many deployments he has done....
ero.
What does that tell you
7/15/2009 9:0 :17 PM
Originally Posted By cosmos556:
Soooo... where s the active duty folks
So far no one from AD has been stupid enough to risk Levenworth over a doomed crusade...
7/15/2009 9:08:02 PM
Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
I d like to know how many deployments he has done....
ero.
What does that tell you
Do you know this for sure, or just speculating ind of hard to believe someone made Major and hasn t
deployed within the last 8 years. IF it is the case that he hasn t deployed ever, then I do think he is a
fucking coward. I hesitate to state my political leanings, but until it is proven otherwise, the man is the
CIC, and it is my duty to follow orders, whether I like them or not. If I don t like it, I can always get out,
just like he could have by resigning his commission.
7/15/2009 9:20:10 PM
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
This shit is getting really interesting.
As a Reservist who works full time with active duty, I m a little troubled by his CO status. I ve gone when
called times now, and plenty of times I volunteered because it was a good mission. I d like to know
how many deployments he has done, and wish I could know for sure that this just has to do with the
CIC.
I m speculating that the CO status is not based on the classic notion that the person who claims it is a
pacifist. I m thinking that it is a technical, legal prerequisite to taking the position he did that he is
objecting ethically to following the commands of someone who, in his judgment, does not have the legal
authority to issue the order. It s possible he would shed the status if he felt that the chain of command
was legit.
7/15/2009 9:22: 5 PM
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Originally Posted By LibertyShip:
I m speculating that the CO status is not based on the classic notion that the person who claims it is a
pacifist. I m thinking that it is a technical, legal prerequisite to taking the position he did that he is
objecting ethically to following the commands of someone who, in his judgment, does not have the legal
authority to issue the order. It s possible he would shed the status if he felt that the chain of command
was legit.
This is what I would really like to know.
7/15/2009 9:2 :28 PM
If he wants to have his day in court, he should have showed up for duty and then refused to follow
orders.
THAT would have at least demonstrated the willingness to risk for "principle".
Instead, he files as a CO.
The CG of SOCCENT pretty much said it all,
7/15/2009 9: 1: PM
But again, Cincinattus, do you know for sure that he hasn t gone before I wouldn t call him a coward if
he has put his butt on the line before.
7/15/2009 9: :01 PM
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7/15/2009 9: 7: 5 PM
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
But again, Cincinattus, do you know for sure that he hasn t gone before I wouldn t call him a coward if
he has put his butt on the line before.
He has been "mobilized to serve in Miami and Gitmo.
No combat zone deployments.
7/15/2009 9: 9:5 PM
Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
But again, Cincinattus, do you know for sure that he hasn t gone before I wouldn t call him a coward if
he has put his butt on the line before.
He has been "mobilized to serve in Miami and Gitmo.
No combat zone deployments.
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Thanks, Cinc. Just what I was looking for. Now I stand by my calling him a fucking coward earlier.
7/1 /2009 5:5 :09 AM
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
But again, Cincinattus, do you know for sure that he hasn t gone before I wouldn t call him a coward if
he has put his butt on the line before.
He has been "mobilized to serve in Miami and Gitmo.
No combat zone deployments.
Thanks, Cinc. Just what I was looking for. Now I stand by my calling him a fucking coward earlier.
Lol Sounds like you have never been involved in major litigation Looks to me like he has jumped in
where angels fear to tread. Do we even know what Cook s branch is
7/1 /2009 :52:51 AM
Just show us the fuqqin Certificate of Live Birth already, Jeez...
7/1 /2009 :5 :18 AM
Originally Posted By pale_pony:
Just show us the fuqqin Certificate of Live Birth already, Jeez...
I saw a copy on snopes and democratic underground. It really does exist.
7/1 /2009 8: 8:50 AM
I thought I had read that he had been deployed times before...
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