Confession, and WWTP Have Done?

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:36:38 PM
ok, so this happened back in march, but it just came up in conversation with my husband. I stand by my
actions, but he's convinced the majority of people would not think this was ok, and told me to ask the
peas. so I am!

we were bringing in cupcakes to school for my 8yr old son's bday. he had helped- like, really helped-
make molded chocolate lego men, 3 colors each requiring freezing in between each color. he also frosted
the cupcakes and put sprinkles on them, then the lego men. we made the night before, and the next
morning the frosting was completely set up and not gooey anymore. place them all in a big, shallow box
to bring in to school.

get to school. his brother, 5, wants to open the school door for his brother C, and me stay in the van. but
right before they get to the door, a bell goes off, a weird tonal sound, not really like a bell ringing, and he
gets scared/nervous and comes back to the car. I get out to help C with the door but he tries it himself
before I can get to him, and spills the box of cupcakes. about 1/2 of them fall on the ground.

so here's where the problem begins. what would you do at this point? no one is around. the school is
brand new, with smooth concrete walkway. it looks absolutely clean- no dirt, no salt. the cupcakes have
hardened so nothing is sticking to the frosting, it's just a little dented. your son looks at you, eyes welling,
absolutely crushed that his hard work is "ruined". they do snacks at first period, not enough time to make
more, even if you didn't have to go to work. with your work schedule, you can't go buy more at a store
and replace the fallen ones. your son has been telling his friends for days because he was so excited to
make the molded chocolate men.

since this is a "confession", you can probably guess what I did- pack them back in the box, looking very
closely for any dirt on them (and seriously, there is none!). carry the box inside. hand it to the teacher
and tell them the box was jumbled a little bit and C's a little sad that some are a little bruised. go to C's
locker where silent tears are falling and tell him that you told the teacher the box got bumped but they
are fine, and that no one will ever know. he says ok and begins to cheer up a bit. rest of day goes fine,
everyone loves the cupcakes, and by the time he gets home all is forgotten.

ok, so is what I did totally bad and unforgiveable? like I said, I don't regret it, and would feed the dropped
cakes to my kids without a second thought. seeing his little face I couldn't say that he couldn't bring them
in. putting on my big girl panties and ready for WWYD.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:40:29 PM
I'd have done the same thing you did.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:40:38 PM
If there wasn't any dirt on them, I might do what you did.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:40:46 PM
Meh, it's a little dirt. No harm, no foul. Probably would have done the same.

Posted: 8/3/2013 7:41:01 PM
Totally fine.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:41:43 PM
Honestly? I think it's quite disgusting to have fed them to children other than your own. If you don't mind
them for your child that's fine, your choice.

If only the box had touched the ground, no problem. The cupcakes themselves falling out? No, they
would not have been taken in.

Reason #128506 that I dislike homemade treats brought to school events, concession stands, bake sales,
etc.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:41:56 PM
LOL I probably would have done the exact same thing.

Or at the least, I probably would have picked them up, taken him into school, said "I'll fix it", and then
brought the cupcakes in so he didn't know you were feeding his friends sidewalk cupcakes.

I'm guessing stuff like this happens all the time and we just don't know it. Doesn't bother me any. (says
the total germaphobe, heh.)

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:42:50 PM
Life happens and with it comes much shit to deal with. Cupcakes that are a little 'bruised' are NOT
something I'd lose sleep over. Seriously. Those kids probably eat FAR worse just on a dare from a friend.

Rest easy. I'm sure you would have heard by now if those bruised cupcakes caused anyone any grief.

And a for coming up with the bruised story to save your lil one some tears.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:44:09 PM
I probably would have kept the half that stayed in the box and bought some at the store to replace the
dropped ones.

Now if it were just my son's cupcake and he was old enough to make the choice to eat his or not, then he
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could decide.

I was disgusted with the sub in my son's class that went into a cabinet and reached for a food item in
back and gave it to the kids. They all survived, but those things were used for sorting year after year. Now
they should have been marked, but she had to go out of her way to find them. Kind of scary when there
is a food allergy in that classroom.

I'm just weird about food.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:48:00 PM
I am so jealous that you are allowed to bring cupcakes in for birthdays at your school. Food is "illegal" at
our school (except in school lunches of course!!). No food at parties, no food for birthdays, no water
bottles, etc.

I'm sorry, but I agree with your husband. There is no way I would give the kids cupcakes that fell to the
ground. I'm sorry that your son was upset, that is totally understandable. But I would have explained to
the teacher and made more for the next day.

My oldest daughter (16) would have eaten it with no problem (girls!!). Last year we were outdoors and
she was eating a bagel. I asked her to pose for a picture (with the bagel was fine). But she put the bagel
on the sidewalk, took the picture, then picked it up and ate it! She does stuff like that all the time!

Your husband is brave asking you to ask us. It seems that women always take the woman's side, and men
the husband's side.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:48:30 PM
sidewalk cupcakes

Ha!

I feel confident when I say those kids have consumed worse. A little dirt never killed anybody.

Scoop 'em up, pass 'em out.

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this is why many schools ban home made treats

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I think it was terrible. you could have cut remaining cupcakes in half, tried again another day..whatever.
just unacceptable.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:49:13 PM
Honestly? I think it's quite disgusting to have fed them to children other than your own. If you don't mind
them for your child that's fine, your choice.

I do want honest opinions, and I actually totally get what you're saying. felt sick about it the whole day,
but..still would do it again. and I imagined what would've happened if all the kids had been standing
there about to get them and they fell.. how many would say "that's ok, i'll eat it"? right or wrong, I
thought the majority would.

oddly enough, I have weird food phobias too, like I can't drink milk at other people's houses for fear it
hasn't been kept cold enough. but (potentially) slightly dirty cupcakes for some reason don't phase me.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:51:31 PM
I feel confident when I say those kids have consumed worse.

I supervise preschoolers on the playground and I PROMISE they have consumed worse. I can't keep those
little buggers from eating the sand in the sandbox. They eat paper, they eat crumbs off the floor, I have
one who really liked the taste of glitter glue. I'm not even kidding. They can be such foul little beasts.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:53:07 PM
Seriously, people, if you eat any processed food at all, then you're eating rat feces, bug parts and dirt.
And probably a few other things. I swear I don't understand how some people (and their precious
snowflakes) make it through the day...

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:53:25 PM
I woild say 5 ( or in this case maybe 25) second rule applies. I don't blame you at all. Kids drop stuff on
the ground and don't think twice about dusting off the dirt.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:58:10 PM
I would have taken the clean ones home and just bought some for the next day. Better than sidewalk
cupcakes. If I wouldn't eat them I wouldn't serve them.

People spit on the ground, go into public restrooms with dirty floors and then walk everywhere. I am
easily grossed out.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 7:58:24 PM
I would have done the same thing you did. Every kid in that school has eaten worse. And you didn't see
any dirt.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:02:15 PM
I would not have given cupcakes that fell on the ground. I would have explained to the teacher what
happened and that I was going home to get a knife so everyone could have half a cupcake each (if they
have one in the cafe or teachers' lounge, it saves me the trip).

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:04:14 PM

Katybee and I may not agree on much politically, but I'm standing right beside her on this one. For
heaven's sake, the very AIR that touched them was undoubtedly fouled by some germ or another.

No big deal in my book. I've got a lot more things to worry about than that!!
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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:05:06 PM
I would feel terrible seeing my son upset like that, but I wouldn't feed another person something that I
had dropped on the ground. I also wouldn't want to send the message to my kid that it's okay to eat food
that's been on the ground.

I know people are gross and that we eat gross things without knowing. I still would have found another
solution. The cupcakes sound very cool though, did you get a picture of them?

Edited to add:
I imagined what would've happened if all the kids had been standing there about to get them and they
fell.. how many would say "that's ok, i'll eat it"? right or wrong, I thought the majority would.

Maybe. But if you had dropped the cupcakes in front of a group of parents, would you still have picked
the cupcakes off of the ground and brought them into the class to serve to their children?

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:06:26 PM
regarding bringing them in the next day; it was the Friday before break, so it would've been a week and a
half. the next day, I probably would have brought the good ones back with remade other ones. I know
that probably doesn't change anything, just wanted to bring it up as another thing that was considered.
And you didn't see any dirt.

and seriously, I looked so closely, because I was about to tell him as i began to pick them up that i'm so
sorry, honey, we can't bring these in.. and then I noticed they were all clean. like, really nothing there
that I could see, even really inspecting them closely.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:07:50 PM
I would have explained to the teacher what happened and that I was going home to get a knife so
everyone could have half a cupcake each (if they have one in the cafe or teachers' lounge, it saves me the
trip).

now THAT is a good idea. I did not think of that.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:11:57 PM
etc.

So if these were store bought, prepared in a licensed and inspected kitchen, it would have been
different?

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What does homemade have to do with this? She could have bought the cupcakes at a bakery and the
same thing happen; the box is dropped and the cupcakes fall out.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:12:50 PM
OMG! I can't believe people are saying it's NOT ok. Really??!! and store made cookies and cupcakes, are
SOO much cleaner?!! HA!!
Yea. You did fine. Those kids probably eat dirt for recess every day.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:16:42 PM
You were right, and I would have done exactly the same thing.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:17:13 PM
The cupcakes sound very cool though, did you get a picture of them?

I don't have one on here, but here's his cake which featured more of the men and some lego bricks he
made. the cupcakes had purple frosting, black blue and green sprinkles and a man on each.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:20:19 PM
I would of done the same thing! You checked and they were good so no worries!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:20:35 PM
What a cool cake! Those little Lego men look incredible

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I'd have done the same thing as you, OP.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:25:13 PM
But if you had dropped the cupcakes in front of a group of parents, would you still have picked the
cupcakes off of the ground and brought them into the class to serve to their children?

I almost would've welcomed that situation- then I could've said "oh no, but wait.. they look fine. now
what?" and seen what they said. *i alone* just couldn't do it to him.
What a cool cake! Those little Lego men look incredible

aww thanks! i melted the chocolate and put it all in piping bags, but he really did almost all of the filling
himself. it took a long time.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:25:47 PM
I think it's really gross For all you know a dog urinated in the spot where they dropped last night or a
child threw up there the day before.

I'm glad our school district doesn't allow treats to be brought in. They haven't allowed anything made at
home in at least a dozen years and just went to no store bought treats last year. And in any case, we
homeschool

This is one of the million reasons I don't eat homemade goods anywhere except my own house

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:28:23 PM
There's probably more dirt on an 8 yo boy's hands than was ever on the cupcake.

I wouldn't care if my kid ate one and I probably would have done something similar--especially looking
into my ds's tearful eyes. I also would have felt weird about it and second guessed myself for the rest of
the day.

I don't know--I chalk it up to no big deal in the long run.

And by the way--that cake, especially the Lego men, looks fabulous!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:29:59 PM
I would do that, too. People end up eating way worse than sidewalk cupcakes on any given day.
(restaurants, improper cleaning at home/friend's house and on and on).

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:30:34 PM
Believe me, if you've ever eaten at a restaurant or other prepared food, you've eaten way worse than
sidewalk cupcakes at some point.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:30:58 PM
No big deal in my book. I've got a lot more things to worry about than that!!

I agree. If we were friends I would have gone as far as to make sure my child got one if the sidewalk
cupcakes. I'd have had your back.

The leap to "this is why they disallow homemade treats" is puzzling.

While store bought may have enough preservatives to survive Armageddon I was unaware they feature
antibacterial force field properties.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:33:13 PM
Considering that 90% of the class probably picked and ate their own boogers in the last 48 hours I think
you are fine.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:33:19 PM
I would have done the same thing and I am easily grossed out.

But in all honesty, my son won't eat cake/cupcakes etc., even ones we make or buy for his BD so I'd be
the bad mom that would let other kids eat the sidewalk cakes.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:36:43 PM
I'm quite a germaphobe but have no issue with this and would have eaten the cupcakes myself if I were
in that class!

I'm LOLing at the people who think something from a store is cleaner. A while back I posted about being
at a bakery and seeing one of the workers drop a plastic container on a visibly dirty floor, pick it up and
put it back into the pile of clean containers. The next person to buy cupcakes got a dirty container and
the one after that got a container that had a dirty one sitting inside it.

But they'd never know that.

Who's to say the person who packed the cupcakes into those containers had clean hands? There's no
guarantee when you buy it anymore than bringing it from home. None.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:39:37 PM

I agree with gritzi on this one. It is disgusting that you reboxed the cupcakes that fell on the ground and
allowed the teacher to give them to the kids without giving her the full story.

If YOU want to give YOUR kids the fallen cupcakes, that's fine. But you don't get to make that choice for
other parents.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:42:37 PM
I would have
Done the exact same thing. They probably get more germs in school door handles than the cupcakes! Lol

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:45:25 PM
Let me add that the germaphobes in this thread wouldn't last 2 minutes in my kindergarten classroom!
22 five year-olds that pick their noses, stick their hands down their pants, lick the tables, suck on their
shirts so that the entire neckline or half the sleeve is permenantly wet with saliva, eat play-doh, eat glue
sticks, wipe the snot off their faces with their sleeve (if they wipe it off at all...most just have crusty
noses), chew the erasers off the pencils, pour milk in their lunch tray and suck it up with a straw...

This is my reality. And I am alive to talk about it.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:48:52 PM
But you don't get to make that choice for other parents.

Hmmm but apparently she did. LOL! Some of you guys really need to unclench. You realize your little
darlings are probably eating slugs and snails and dog poop in the yard, right? All my little neighbor friends
did when we were little. Plus dog and cat food! YUM!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:51:56 PM
thanks so much for the opinions! tho i still don't feel great about it, i do feel comforted that a healthy
majority of people think it's not so bad. if it ever happens again (tho you can be sure there will be no
more homemade treats for a long while, and they'll be closely guarded when they do return) i will
definitely do the "cut into portions" thing. wish i had thought of that then!

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You realize your little darlings are probably eating slugs and snails and dog poop in the yard, right? All my
little neighbor friends did when we were little. Plus dog and cat food! YUM!

lol my childhood neighbor ate cat food at our house when he came over. to play devil's advocate, i don't
think anyone can argue that their kids don't eat some gross things when they aren't looking. but
*serving* to them is different thing, and i do get that point of view!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 8:54:21 PM
I am grateful our county health codes do not permit homemade treats in school.

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I think if a different pea posted the OP, depending on her past, she would have been raked over the
coals. This is a funny place sometimes.
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Everyone is rationalizing. But no one ever answered the question, what if it happened in front of a bunch
of parents. Would everyone here who said it was ok (since it was a done deal and the OP can't do
anything about it now, she doesn't have a negative past pea history and her little boy made them and the
outside floor was somehow shiny, new and clean and there was no visible dirt) do the same? Or would
you be embarrassed to serve it to the kids?

Are these the same peas who throw out homemade food gifts and not eat stuff if you haven't seen the
kitchens of the people who make the food? Or is it just ok for hypothetical other people's kids?

I feel like I'm in an alternate pea universe.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:00:39 PM
No big deal. There was nothing on them. I would've boxed them back up and brought them in too.

That cake is cool!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:02:18 PM
If she dropped the cupcakes in front of me, I'd be over there helping her pick them up and assuring her
they were totally fine.

I never throw away homemade food, if it looks and tastes good! I don't need to have someone's home
inspected before I eat there.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:02:22 PM
I am grateful our county health codes do not permit homemade treats in school.

But if store bought cupcakes are dropped on the ground it's different how?

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:02:26 PM
I tell you what. I can't tell you what I would have done, because it didn't happen to me and I'm not sure
how I would have handled it. If I could have salvaged half a cupcake each, I would have liked that idea
best. (However, this will likely never happen to me, since I pretty much hate cupcakes. )

*BUT*, let's pretend you handed out perfectly sidewalk germ free cupcakes to my kid's class. Then
my kid dropped his cupcake and upon picking it up and showing me that it was "clean", looked to me for
permission to eat it. I would have let him have it.

Which means if you had dropped them first and then gave it to him, it would really be no different.

And if you confessed this here and I realized that my kid was actually in your son's class and possibly had
a sidewalk cupcake, I would not be having any sort of issue with you right now at all.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:03:04 PM
this is disgusting.

The next time you are in a restaurant and they spill your food on the floor are you going to be ok with
them replating it and serving you?

They are health inspected, so it should be ok, right?

It was a great parenting moment to help your child learn how to deal with sucky things in life. Would that
have made him 100% happy? No, but would be a great skill to start on.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:03:48 PM
Everyone is rationalizing. But no one ever answered the question, what if it happened in front of a bunch
of parents.

Martha (OP) did answer this question when I edited my post and asked about it, but I hear you. I feel like
I've read twenty different threads where teachers are grossed out by gifts of homemade food, but now
we're picking cupcakes off of the ground and happily eating them because kids pick their nose anyway

You never know with the peas, but that's probably why I can't stay away.

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If the cupcakes hitting the ground upsets you, all I have to say is never, ever eat in a restaurant.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:04:45 PM
Would everyone here who said it was ok (since it was a done deal and the OP can't do anything about it
now, she doesn't have a negative past pea history and her little boy made them

this is actually a big reason why i thought asking here might be a good idea.. since i'm not a controversial
pea, and not well known, the reactions of these women should be about the same as the reactions of the
parents of the kids in my boy's class. they don't know me, except that i'm friendly at class parties or
volunteering or school events. so no real background to color their opinions either.

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Umm, that's what restaurants do; replate it and serve it to you.

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I think if a different pea posted the OP, depending on her past, she would have been raked over the
coals. This is a funny place sometimes.

I agree with this.

If the scenario was the lunch lady dropped the cupcakes...said oh well, most kids have disgusting
habits...and served them. Would be at least 5 pages of outrage.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:08:35 PM
Tulip-I think that's different. A bunch of strangers or a bunch of parents of the kids who ate the floor
cupcakes. I wouldn't want to be known as the mom who picked the cupcakes from the floor and served
them to the class. But if you don't mind (you didn't seem to be comfortable being honest about it with
the teacher so you knew something about it wasn't 100% ok) then that's ok.

You asked what we would have done. Some would have served them (and I am making a mental note
about this for future) and some would not have (myself included).

For those who are saying if the floor cupcakes upset us, don't eat in restaurants, I, personally am not
upset by this. OP asked what would we have done. We're telling her. I think it was not right. My sister
trained as a chef in NYC restaurants. I can tell you exactly what goes on back of the house. Does that
mean I should serve dirt to other people's children?

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:08:41 PM
. since i'm not a controversial pea, and not well known,

Well, THAT honeymoon is over now You scandalous thing.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:09:46 PM
Some would have served them (and I am making a mental note about this for future)
For what purpose?

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:10:26 PM
Umm, that's what they do; replate it and serve it to you.

Really? You are going to state that all restaurants do this? I am sure we have all heard horror stories and
seen Kitchen Nightmares, but I have worked in various restaurant situations (mom&pop, chain, fast food)
and NEVER have I seen that happen.

Servers eating bread between serving food - yes
People in the back eating food off of plates which are cleared from tables - yes
Cooks licking fingers and not washing their hands immediately following - yes
wiping down the table with the same rag as the one for menus - yes

But picking up food from the floor and serving it - nope. Everyone I have worked with had more pride in
their work/service than that

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:10:32 PM
So I know to watch for questionable looking cupcakes and food at school gatherings!

ETA: I was answering biochem as to why I was making a mental note about people picking up food from
the floor and serving it. If the peas will do it, moms here might do it.

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They are health inspected, so it should be ok, right?

oh geez no, restaurant floors are gross and breeding grounds for who knows what! i know that's
hypocritical. but that clear concrete in 20 degree weather under a covered walkway seemed different.
and at the time it seemed important that the frosting had "cured" and wasn't as apt to pick things up like
sticky frosting would've.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:13:33 PM
So I know to watch for questionable looking cupcakes and food at school gatherings!

ETA: I was answering biochem as to why I was making a mental note about people picking up food from
the floor and serving it. If the peas will do it, moms here might do it.

All these years as a Pea and I never understood the issue with Bake Sale Food - until now.

I guess I figured that since I wouldn't do that that others aren't doing it. Hmmmmmmmmmm rethinking
my Bake Sale stance

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I think cupcakes are just about the messiest darn dessert you can give to a kid and I never understood
why they were so popular to bring to school.

Plus, they're a PITA to transport. As this story reminds us.

Unless you make the darn little buggers often enough to invest in several cupcake containers, of course.

So the moral of the story is to send in cookies or brownies that can be put into individual sealed bags
ahead of time.

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Well, THAT honeymoon is over now You scandalous thing.

i know, right? i'm sidewalk cupcake pea now. i knew there was a chance when i started this thread tho.
But if you don't mind (you didn't seem to be comfortable being honest about it with the teacher so you
knew something about it wasn't 100% ok) then that's ok.

i do appreciate all of the opinions, i hope i'm not giving the impression that i only welcome the ones that
support me. regarding this, all i can say is i'm not thrilled i did it, but i'm ok with it. and now i have better
ideas of what to do in the future! no worries on me saying "eh, most people don't care" and scooping all
spilled snacks back onto the serving tray. i have always tossed spilled items being served to other people
until this point.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:16:27 PM
i know, right? i'm sidewalk cupcake pea now. i knew there was a chance when i started this thread tho.

I think it is gross, but am pretty sure I won't remember your scandal in the future! Your secret is safe with
me!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:19:01 PM
See, the thing is, if it really isn't a big deal, kids eat dirt and boogers, restaurants are disgusting, etc, then
why tell the teacher the box got mushed? Why be dishonest? That right there says you knew it wasn't ok.

But these peas don't want to hurt your feelings (I can think of about 5 other peas who would have been
slammed for the same exact post word for word within the first 3 posts for doing something so
disgusting-dishonest-etc.) and it would have gone on for days and pages and would have been brought
up 5 years from now.

What's done is done. Sounds like you would do the same thing all over again. I can definitely understand
not wanting to have a sad, disappointed child. I have three kids. But stuff happens and maybe something
could have been done to deal with it differently.

This place is funny. That's all!

I'm going to remember this type of rationalizing and reasoning for future pea discussions.

ETA: You're owning up to it and being a good egg. I'm far less bothered by what you did, tulip, than by
everyone else making excuses. And in the scheme of things, I don't think you did something earth
shattering. Just everyone explaining it away is making me laugh.

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My reply and stance has nothing to do with the OP; I reply based on what I think/believe/do, not on how
I feel about the poster. Maybe some Peas do otherwise, but I don't.

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So the moral of the story is to send in cookies or brownies that can be put into individual sealed bags
ahead of time.

AMEN.

and thanks, clee! i look forward to tomorrow when relative obscurity will welcome me back. i figured
it couldn't have been *too* outrageous, even with the dissenters, because no one's copied and pasted
the OP yet in case i deleted lol.

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But picking up food from the floor and serving it - nope. Everyone I have worked with had more pride in
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Yep, in the majority of restaurants. And spitting in food and putting things (bugs, etc.) in food. I've never
watched Kitchen Nightmares; my examples are from personal experience and those of family/friends.
Heck the health department has even closed restaurants in our area for reusing food. By that I mean
taking food that a customer didn't finish and putting it on a plate and serving it to another customer.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:23:27 PM
Sometimes I think people way over think things! No big deal!

Sidewalk cupcakes! ha ha -that's funny!

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All these years as a Pea and I never understood the issue with Bake Sale Food - until now.

I guess I figured that since I wouldn't do that that others aren't doing it. Hmmmmmmmmmm rethinking
my Bake Sale stance

I know. Right?!

And I usually have higher standards for other people than I do for myself. I think for some people it's the
other way around. (Not talking about the OP. Just some people in general. Maybe the ones on this thread
who assume their children are getting a steady diet of boogers.)

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I don't change my responses based on the OP but I often don't respond at all based on who the OP is.

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I'm still confused about the remarks about homemade food going to school. Someone can easily drop
and pick up a box of store-bought treats, right?

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then why tell the teacher the box got mushed? Why be dishonest? That right there says you knew it
wasn't ok.

you're right, i wasn't and am still not 100% ok with it. i told her about the mushing because i needed
something to explain why he was all red-eyed and teary. if nothing had happened, then he wouldn't have
been that way. and if she had asked him, he wouldn't have lied. so i lied for him. definitely not my
proudest moment, and definitely not something i make a habit of or want him to think is ok. thankfully
this has been but a blip on his radar and he doesn't seem to have taken any lessons from it. or, maybe i
should start doubting the history of those popsicles he brings me...

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:27:26 PM
great now I want brownies or cupcakes. This thread is not good for me!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:28:26 PM
Not at all trying to judge, really, but I wouldn't have probably done it.

Only because pesticide is a super huge issue with me. My teen got really sick when she was a baby due to
a really new apartment we looked at to move into. It was on the new sidewalks, and apparently she was
playing and just put her hands down, touching the smooth surface, crawling and such, and then put them
in her mouth.

She had all kinds of little bumps around her mouth, and was pretty sick for a couple of weeks. It took the
Doctor's office running a ton of tests and finally deciding it was pesticide for us to realize what is on a
seemingly clean area, undetectable.

I totally get why you went ahead and sent it in, sweet little boy, but I just have a bad experience in my
bag already. LOL.

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I don't change my responses based on the OP but I often don't respond at all based on who the OP is.

So true!

In this situation, my response has to do with the fact that it is done and over with. If I had been standing
there that day, and the OP asked for advice, serving them wouldn't have been my answer. But, it's done,
and I truly wouldn't care if my kid ate a sidewalk cupcake.

And if I were the teacher, and I did know that my cupcake fell, I still would have ate it for the sake of the
birthday boy.

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did.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:34:10 PM
I am not a germaphobe (don't own a single bottle of Purell), but I wouldn't have still served them. For a
few reasons:

1) My dd totally would have spilled the beans
2) I don't even use the 5 second rule
3) We have a grocery store 2 minutes from the school

My dh...totally would have served them.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:35:39 PM
I know that when my kids were in school we could not take homemade food in for treats. Ours had to do
with food allergies to some degree. You never know what people use in their baking(peanut oil, peanut
butter). Easier to look at packaging and know what the food contains.

Plus some people just aren't that clean, to be honest. I knew who to accept homemade food from and
who not to accept from. Most teachers at my kids school threw away food brought to them for presents.
Sorry but its the truth.

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It isn't horror and aversion to dirt. It's making the decision for other people. I'm not sure why people
aren't getting this. I'm sure I eat dirt and bugs in organic leafy greens. My CHOICE. But whatever is where
people walk and what is tracked on the bottom of their shoes and invisible like trace from dog feces, etc?
I'm not particularly interested in that if given the option. No one here was given the option.

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I've read threads here where people wouldn't touch food gifts, pot luck, food from certain people's
homes, but right off the floor when no 'visible dirt?' Sure! Serve it up! Must be a totally different crop of
peas.

ETA: Here the ground kissing the cupcakes totally eclipsed the fact that OP's little boy had his hands in
that food. That alone would have been a criminal offense causing peas to recoil in disgust on other
threads... IF it wasn't a (non controversial) pea's child. If it was some other child in a different scenario
who had there hands all in the food fuhgettaboutit. Llike dcasta said, those cupcakes would have hit the
trash before you could have said "so there!"

And I've been known to do the 5 second rule thing in a very clan place for myself. But never to give to
other people.

The lesson here is never let your kids carry food stuff.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:42:29 PM
great now I want brownies or cupcakes. This thread is not good for me!

lol.. i hope you make them, and then you drop them on the floor. j/k

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:42:55 PM
Melanell-I assume store bought treats would be in something sealed. That's the only difference I see.

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I would have told the teacher what happened and asked if we could cut the cupcakes that didn't fall on
the ground in half. The kids still would have been happy with half a cupcake.
and if she had asked him, he wouldn't have lied. so i lied for him.

It would have been a good life lesson moment. It was an accident. Accidents happen. It's disappointing,
but he still had cupcakes to share. Lying about what really happened probably wasn't the best way to
teach him how to solve the problem.

Don't be to hard on yourself. We all have those 'mom' moments we regret.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:48:05 PM
People spit on the ground, go into public restrooms with dirty floors and then walk everywhere. I am
easily grossed out.

And just because you couldn't SEE any dirt didn't mean it wasn't there. I know kids have eaten worse but
any chance to avoid dirty food, I would take it.
Posted: 8/3/2013 9:52:54 PM
But these peas don't want to hurt your feelings (I can think of about 5 other peas who would have been
slammed for the same exact post word for word within the first 3 posts for doing something so
disgusting-dishonest-etc.) and it would have gone on for days and pages and would have been brought
up 5 years from now.

I'm not going to slam the OP, but it's not because I don't want to hurt her feelings. It's because I just can't
get worked up about sidewalk cupcakes. Life is dirty. Can't be bothered to single out this one event.

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Yes, I get that there was no choice involved, but there's no choice involved in probably 90% of the rest of
the dirt you eat, either.

And for the teachers and others who won't eat anything that came from someone else's kitchen ... I'm
sorry, but I think that's a little bit of OCD illness. It's fine, you can live with it, but please don't brag about
doing it because it's not making you look good.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 9:59:44 PM
Yeah Lucy. But I'm just not going to be the one to make that choice for someone if I can help it. Other
people feel differently. I think that's disgusting. They don't. But when people come on here posting about
other things and thinking they're terrible and other people tell them to chill, it's no big, then maybe they
need to chill.

My kids had a teacher with a suppressed immunity. Depending on what the dirt was that couldn't be
seen, she could have gotten very ill. I know there are sometimes kids that do as well. To me it's basic
consideration and I wouldn't want to be the one responsible. If it means disappointing my child and in
turn inconveniencing myself, well, it happens.

But saying it's not a big deal to me so it shouldn't be to anyone? Well, that's not always how it is.

Just saying these things so people may think about things differently when they serve floor cupcakes. Not
to pile on b/c I know it may look that way. If not for the teacher with the suppressed immunity b/c of her
illness, I may not have been as aware and it would just be something yucky in passing. But maybe we can
all be a little more considerate of someone else's situation and not just whether it passes our personal
grossmeter.

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My kids had a teacher with a suppressed immunity. Depending on what the dirt was that couldn't be see,
she could have gotten very ill
My mom is immunocompromised and she'd laugh her head off if someone suggested she shouldn't eat a
cupcake that fell and came up "clean".

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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:05:44 PM
Thank you Ashley. You're mocking my consideration for others. I'll tell you, I think it's disgusting that you
would serve food off the floor to people like it's no big deal.

Instead we have a whole thread full of people admitting they would rather serve food off the floor to
others and lie about it rather than inconvenience themselves or have to disappoint their child b/c an
accident happened.

I'd rather be considerate of others than the alternative.

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No, I'm not mocking you. I was letting you know that not everyone who is immunosuppressed holds your
same high standards.

Posted: 8/3/2013 10:09:41 PM
Batya, I don't disagree with you entirely ... I'm not sure *I* would have served the sidewalk cupcakes
myself ... they just don't bother me and I can't get worked up about this particular topic.

But about the immune-compromised teacher or an allergic child or whatever, I doubt they'd be eating
suspect food brought in by other people in the first place, if they're that sensitive. Ya know?

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I guess it just comes down to whether you're a Clark or an Aunt Edna.

Clark or Aunt Edna

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I can't even answer this question because I just can't get over your need to push junk food onto children.
Why oh why do you feel the need to ply my kid full of junk? You are just adding to the obesity epidemic
and I don't appreciate it.

If I want my children to have a treat, I will give them one. Breast milk, kale, flax seed muffins are our go
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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:15:20 PM
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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:16:19 PM
Dudes-serve the floor cupcakes. Have at it. The concrete was sparkling clean and consideration for others
is overrated. I don't even know what I was thinking.

Apparently my standards are ridonkulous. And I didn't even think my standards were so hot but you guys
make me feel like the Happy Homemaker. If any of you want food that's cleaner than the avg pea's you
know where to come.

Next time I see someone complaining about the cleanliness of a posted pea's house, the food gift from a
student or a questionable pot luck I will have these words:

***FLOOR CUPCAKES. 99% PEA APPROVED. QUITCHERBITCHEN***

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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:18:20 PM
If no-one else at all, even my son, saw them get dropped on the floor I would have done the same thing
that you did. But I would not be comfortable lying about it with my son's knowledge, or expecting him to
lie about what really happened.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:26:50 PM
For those that are disgusted, do you ever eat out? I guarantee you worse happens in restaurants.

OP I would have done the same thing as you, but I probably would have pretended to get new ones just
in case my kid decided to tell that they were "sidewalk cupcakes."

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***FLOOR CUPCAKES. 99% PEA APPROVED. QUITCHERBITCHEN***
Get it right, Batya, we're talking SIDEWALK CUPCAKES. Clean sidewalk cupcakes. Very different from
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I <3 Sanctimommy...

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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:29:38 PM
Well, since mental note is being taken - I would have served them.
Posted: 8/3/2013 10:34:49 PM
I agree that cupcakes are a royal pain to transport. My kids are now teens and I just bought my first
cupcake carrier. I sent 13 yo DS to a beach party with really cute cupcakes. Unfortunately, he tipped the
carrier as he got out of the car. I sent them anyway, smooshed and all.

Of course, I hadn't thought of what the hot sun would do to frosted cupcakes in a carrier. Ugh!

Even the carriers don't support the sides of the cupcakes and it's very awkward to carry it without
tipping. It also only holds 12 regular cupcakes!

We tried once to transport those cute ice cream cone cupcakes (without a carrier). Major fail then too.

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ETA: I totally would've done what you did. We definitely have the 5 second rule here. Also, for anyone
that doesn't want their homemade goodies...send them here. Nothing better than a plate of homemade
brownies or other treats.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:40:54 PM
I don't know if I would have or not, it's sort of one of those decisions you make on the fly and have to live
with afterward. You did what you did and no one seems any worse off for it so in the end it was fine. That
is of course assuming half the class didn't spend break sick with the sidewalk flu.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:46:56 PM
I don't know what I would have done.

But I have to say, the cake is soooo stinkin' cute!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:57:59 PM
I would have only used the non-sidewalk ones.

No matter how many kids eat their boogers and lick trash cans, I couldn't serve them something that fell
on the ground. Too many invisible, gross possibilities for me.

If it was that important for my child, I'd sign up for cupcakes for the next class party... And carry the
cupcakes myself.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:58:32 PM
I suspect I would of done the same thing. Unless those kids live in a bubble they probably ate more
bacteria/dirt/germs/whatever that day than was on the cupcake. I always tell me kids that a little dirt just
builds your immunity.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 10:58:51 PM
My dog doesn't like getting her feet wet or dirty so she regularly pees on the sidewalk and when it dries
you can't tell she's been there. The thought of sidewalk cupcakes make me queasy

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Posted: 8/3/2013 11:06:52 PM
I really don't think I would have done that. But I don't know for sure. My teary eyed child might have
weakened my normal food safety standards.

I have no place to judge though. My first day as a SAHM, I may or may not have fed my child a lunchable
that may or may not have fallen on the kitchen floor.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 11:07:32 PM
Since the thread is still going, I'll chime in: No, I wouldn't have served them. I agree that my kids may eat
worse things on occasion, but this was preventable, which makes all the difference.

Also, serving it to your own kids? Fine. Serving it to someone else's? Not cool.

Having said that, I admire your attitude, bluetulip. You can let your husband know that there's another
Pea sitting on the bench with him, though.

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Posted: 8/3/2013 11:14:31 PM
So, what happens if your son lets slip that the cupcakes fell on the parking lot concrete?

Some kid says, "hey, those Lego cupcakes were so cool!"

Your son replies, "yeah, I'm glad they still looked good after they fell on the ground!" Or something
similar? I would not have served the cupcakes, because I would be worried that the story would
eventually come out, and my son would be known as the "dirty cupcake kid."

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Posted: 8/3/2013 11:20:08 PM
BTW, I totally think you posted this controversial thread just so you can make Peatastic's "Week In
Review" post LOL!!!!

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Posted: 8/3/2013 11:21:51 PM
After reading the OP, All I can think about is... Parasites

But in a weird germaohobe

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Posted: 8/4/2013 12:12:53 AM
I would have served them. The doorknobs at school can't be any worse than the sidewalk.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 12:20:12 AM
Absolutely late to this party, but I have three things to say:

1: why would anyone bring sugary things to the school? (paraphrasing someone here). it's a birthday. I
bring cupcakes to the elementary school for birthdays, when asked. I wanted to use a bebe gun on the
rear of the parents who ordered them every time it was their turn for the late morning Kindergarten
snack because the principal gave them the LAST lunch slot of the day, but for a birthday? fine! Yes they
are messy, and sugary and I am an RD but I send them anyway. We've also done cookies, and for my June
girl I delivered dilly bars on the last day of school. But I DO always order mini cupcakes and cookies. So
many kids just eat the frosting so this way they get less of it and I save money too.
2: as a stuck up RD (haha) I also usually bring some sort of fruit: grapes, raspberries, orange slices. Always
amazed at the 5 kids that ONLY take the fruit. Yay kids! and More cupcakes for Admin and the specials
teachers.
3: I LOVe to bake. I was crushed when I found out I couldn't bake for school treats 11 years ago. Then I
went to a (toy, scrapbook, whatever) party at a friends friends house. My friend warned be prior not to
eat the snacks, and said they never allow this woman to make anything for their progressive dinners,
they usually started at her house for drink because several of them had gotten food poisoning from her
cooking. professional, intelligent businesswoman. You know the greasy fuzzy dust that collects on the top
of the fridge? Well, it was everywhere in her kitchen. Cabinets, stove, etc. ugh. I hthink of her kitchen
every time I happily dial the bakery for birthdays. (Only 3 more years to go).

Ok, four things. my husband STILL plays with Legos. i MUST make this cake for him. It's awesome!

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I'm of two minds on this one. I have eaten things that are questionable (been in the "danger zone" of
temps, in the fridge too long, 5 second rule, etc) many times and lived to tell the tale. So my first reaction
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But then the more I think about it. I would NEVER serve my guests one of those questionable items.
When I drop something, I can see where it lands and decide if it is still edible to me. Serving something to
a person where they can't make that decision just seems wrong.

Plus, I figure if I have to lie about it I probably shouldn't do it. Since you lied to the teacher you knew
most people would have an "ew" reaction and therefore you probably shouldn't have done it.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:43:01 AM
Totally FINE!

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:01:35 AM
I would have served them. The doorknobs at school can't be any worse than the sidewalk.

That.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:45:08 AM
Well that's it! Lol I'm totally cured of eating cupcakes others make. This will make my weight loss MUCH
easier to maintain.

I would have said "honey, we will make more tonight! I'm going to take them home and you can eat as
many as you want after dinner!" lol

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Posted: 8/4/2013 6:33:54 AM
Let me add that the germaphobes in this thread wouldn't last 2 minutes in my kindergarten classroom!
22 five year-olds that pick their noses, stick their hands down their pants, lick the tables, suck on their
shirts so that the entire neckline or half the sleeve is permenantly wet with saliva, eat play-doh, eat glue
sticks, wipe the snot off their faces with their sleeve (if they wipe it off at all...most just have crusty
noses), chew the erasers off the pencils, pour milk in their lunch tray and suck it up with a straw...

This is my reality. And I am alive to talk about it.

True story. After 15 years in K and 5 years in 1st grade, I've seen much worse than sidewalk cupcakes.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 6:40:05 AM
I really don't know what I would have done in that situation.

Probably, exactly what you did.

Young kid grossness factor, (all the gross things kids do, much worse than a spilled cupcake, and like
another poster stated, how many kids, if they dropped their own cupcake, would have picked it right
back up and ate it?), versus the look in my child's eyes.

I think I would have went with the kid and picked up those cupcakes and did just what the op did.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 6:40:18 AM
you can't tell she's been there. The thought of sidewalk cupcakes make me queasy

As does the thought of you letting your pet urinate on a sidewalk. Do people just have to walk around it
until it dries?

Or did you mean only your sidewalks at your home?

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Posted: 8/4/2013 6:42:58 AM
Coworker used to always bring food and share it with us. Then one day she invited me to her house to
hang out by the pool and have lunch. We went into the kitchen to make sandwiches(she had made
chicken salad) and had everything set up on the counter.

Then her cat(big one) jumped up on the counter. Walked all around the food with its big, fat, fluffy tail
touching everything. She never said anything. Just let it so its thing. I was . I told her I had eaten a late
breakfast and would eat a little later. Hadn't eaten and I didn't there.

I NEVER ate anything she brought again. So that is why I do not eat food people bring in unless I
absolutely know what kind of person they are. Especially if they have animals. Judge me, I don't care. I
won't even eat something I drop on my counters if I haven't cleaned the counters that day. Not OCD. Just
not a dirty pig.
Posted: 8/4/2013 7:05:01 AM
I personally wouldn't have served them, just because something looks clean doesn't mean it is. BUT this
happened in March and I assume all the kids that ate them are still alive and well so I think you're good.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 7:09:10 AM
Three pages, ive got to chime in. Has no one mentioned the sidewalk to the entry is the most travelled?
There are monitored cameras at our school and you have to be buzzed in at the door. Monitors are in at
least three offices I know about. A monitor in the reception area is wall mounted and visible to the
public. If something was dropped it would be seen- but there would be a group of administrators with
advice, and (probably) supplies to help fix the problem.

It doesn't matter if it's homemade, storebought, kale chips or junk food. The issue is serving dropped
food to a group of kids.

Meg, I'm surprised so few have said this, it needs to be repeated:

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Posted: 8/4/2013 7:09:19 AM
I'm not completely sure what I would have done. Probably the same thing as you did!
you can't tell she's been there.
My neighbor's dog does this to either my sidewalk or our neighbors. It's totally gross, and ticks me off
every time!

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Posted: 8/4/2013 7:17:07 AM
I would have done the same thing.

For those of you who are saying it is disgusting, I assume you eat fruits and vegetables. You do realize
they are grown from the ground (errr, dirt). Right? People walk on the dirt. Animals (critters) walk
(and poop and pee) on the dirt.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 7:18:53 AM
I agree that kids probably have far worse germs on their hands 99% of the time, and if I was a parent
observing what you did,I would have laughed- even if I knew you were taking them into my child's
classroom. People must do this sort of thing all the time but we all survive- its how our immune system
learns to cope with germs!

Posted: 8/4/2013 8:08:16 AM
People must do this sort of thing all the time but we all survive- its how our immune system learns to
cope with germs!

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So true! It's just that usually we don't know it's happened

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:08:29 AM
People must do this sort of thing all the time but we all survive- its how our immune system learns to
cope with germs!

So true! It's just that usually we don't know it's happened

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:26:49 AM
Or did you mean only your sidewalks at your home?

Yes, my dog only pees on MY sidewalk and I hose it off afterwards.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:36:52 AM

That's the part that sticks with me. Not the germs, not the smooshed cupcakes. It's the dishonesty. I
probably would tell the teacher, maybe they could of been cut in half.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:41:01 AM
Not pretentious, just clean. Don't make decisions for other people's children. Just because YOU will eat
off the floor doesn't mean everyone will. I won't use a fork or spoon at a restaurant if I drop it for the
mere fact that people walk on all sorts of gross things. Why would I want to eat something off the
ground.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:46:20 AM
I assume you eat fruits and vegetables. You do realize they are grown from the ground (errr, dirt). Right?
People walk on the dirt. Animals (critters) walk (and poop and pee) on the dirt.

Um... yeah. If the cupcakes were then washed, we're on equal footing. LOL!

As for the PP who said it is a first world problem, so it everything on this board. Then we shouldn't be
talking about anything. Since, you know, only first worlders have internet and time to talk about the
nonsense of making ridiculous treats. Real world people have to worry about actually having clean water
and making it to adulthood. So if we're going to be comparing problems...

Dirt cupcakes. They're what's for snack.

And I'm guessing none of you are foot flushers and you don't bother making your kids wash their hands
after toileting or before eating b/c ya know... boogers, rat feces, pesticides, immunity, we eat dirt, bugs...

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:50:25 AM
What exactly do you think you are protecting your kids from? Real life?

You mean like when they drop something on the floor and you have to tell them they can't serve it and
they are disappointed? Real life like that? Yeah. Sometimes crap happens and you have to tell them, even
when they are 8 y/o that real life sucks but you can handle disappointment and there are ways to do
something about it and it isn't the and of the world.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:55:09 AM
Oh. I thought your problem was protecting kids from real life b/c that's what you said. And that's exactly
what the OP did. And if she owned up to what happened and her child could have been disappointed and
realized that things can be fixed and stuff happens and everything ends up ok, then there would have
been no confession.

People are so afraid of making their kids sad and letting them be disappointed. Crap happens. It does.
And yah, talking about first world problems. On day our children will all have real problems and some
won't be able to handle them b/c they weren't allowed to have small disappointments.

It's ok to let your child cry and fail and be disappointed. Really. It is. It's life.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:57:14 AM
And I'm guessing none of you are foot flushers and you don't bother making your kids wash their hands
after toileting or before eating b/c ya know... boogers, rat feces, pesticides, immunity, we eat dirt, bugs...
What's the deal with trying to make it sound like everyone who is perfectly OK with those sidewalk
cupcakes is somehow disgusting (your words) or a dirty pig (someone else's words) and that you are
above average clean (your words)? Just because someone is OK with one thing (sidewalk cupcakes)
doesn't mean we are all filthy, disgusting pigs in real life who never wash, bathe, and let our cats roll
around in our food before we drop it on the floor and then eat it.

The level of superiority and condescending attitude on this thread about people who choose differently
than you, Batya, is really disappointing.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:08:10 AM
I guess my question is why the kids were carrying the cupcakes if cupcakes are so hard to transport?
I personally wouldn't have served them to other kids but would have eaten them at home just because I
have higher standards for the food I serve others versus the food I prepare for myself.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:10:01 AM
My point is that people are saying that it's ok b/c some dirt doesn't matter, you get more dirt from other
sources... it's the rationalizing. It's the idea that in this case it doesn't matter b/c of your personal criteria.
But that may not be ok for someone else and you are deciding for them when they have no choice. The
teacher may not have wanted to serve that to her class. That's my point.

I'm not saying anyone is a pig. I also said I've picked things up if they were just dropped and eaten them
myself. I'm not a germaphobe.

I can't get past giving it to someone else when you know something is not right about it b/c you're not
owning up to it. If you have to 'confess' then it's probably not a great decision. All the rationalizing is
what gets me. But in a few days people can turn around on a different post and be disgusted by the very
same things, especially if they find out someone did it to them.

No one wants to be told they are dirty or wrong or not thinking of someone else. But if you drop
something on the floor and then feed it to people, are dishonest about it and are inconsiderate...
Personally, I never regretted doing something where I didn't have to lie about it. But I did regret the
things that I did have to lie about or later feel I had to 'confess.'

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:13:37 AM
FFS you are all crazy. Three pages for sidewalk cupcakes. SMH

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:14:26 AM
But, you're rationalizing too. It's what people do. Someone asks a question; we respond and say why. It's
not that surprising or unique.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:18:41 AM
Ashley- you are getting defensive. If you're confident with your decision, then you have to live with what
people think about it. I don't think you or anyone else is a dirty pig but I question your standards.

OP asked what people would do. It's on a public message board. You're serving food to people that fell
on the outside ground. It isn't a far cry to think that if your cleanliness standards are low about that, then
they might not be so high elsewhere. How the hell should I know? I never expected someone to serve
food that feel on the concrete and yet a whole bunch of people think it's perfectly fine. Now you want
me to be shocked that people would cook in unclean kitchens or not wash their hands? Really?

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:26:34 AM
OK. So lima, you think it's fine. Duly noted. I have three kids, all sans allergies and food intolerances. Not
sure what that proves but there you go.

I'm having a discussion. OP obviously thought it wasn't right to do what she did. Otherwise she would not
have called it a 'confession.' I must be in some alternate universe where you don't pick up food from the
ground and serve it to others. I've been called an elite snob on this board before and they were probably
right.

You were the one who raised the issue of not protecting our kids from everything and yet she served the
dirt cupcakes to protect her child from a little disappointment that would have been gone by the end of
the school day. But that's why we have so many entitled adults who can't deal. B/c we shield them from
a little disappointment and life's lessons. Just like not letting them eat a little dirt is the cause of all the
allergies, huh?

Like grinning cat said, I have higher standards when I serve others than what I do for myself. If you don't,
that's fine. But then you also have to accept that some people will think it's unacceptable.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:30:30 AM
Lol, I am not defensive at all. Really just surprised by you attitude on this thread.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:32:18 AM
As I am surprised by yours!

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:33:57 AM
I can't get past giving it to someone else when you know something is not right about it b/c you're not
owning up to it.

She didn't lie because she thought it was wrong to feed other people sidewalk cupcakes. She lied because
she realizes that some people are too irrational to eat sidewalk cupcakes and what they don't know
won't (and certainly didn't) hurt them.

Julie

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:37:54 AM
Your post makes no sense. It is not entitled to expect people to be considerate of others. Quite the
opposite, actually. I don't think you understand what entitled means. You keep serving your dirt to
people and I won't.

I'm very sorry your DD has MS. I have a long time friend with MS and it's terrible. I hope there's a cure
soon.

Just for the record, my kids have eaten and done all the things yours have and I have done the same with
the utensils on the floor. Only difference? I wouldn't have done it with someone else's child.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:02:28 AM
Nope. I didn't say someone else's child is more important than my own. Or less important than my own.
Just that I wouldn't feel right making that choice for someone else's child. There's a difference.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:02:38 AM
If you had dropped them in front of me, I would have no problem with my son eating one.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:12:39 AM
She didn't lie because she thought it was wrong to feed other people sidewalk cupcakes. She lied because
she realizes that some people are too irrational to eat sidewalk cupcakes and what they don't know
won't (and certainly didn't) hurt them.

Gosh. If only she'd had a plan...

Honestly, I don't know what I would have done. I really have no issue with the cupcakes hitting the
sidewalk, at least on a personal level...and maybe that's changed after reading this thread...I'm not sure
yet.

And I likely wouldn't have thought too deeply into it to wonder how other parents might feel about the
situation...though reading the responses here, I will if it ever happens to me in the future.

But I doubt I would have handed them out in the manner described by the OP, because I wouldn't have
been able to keep it a secret from the teacher. I may have *tried* to go ahead, but I'd have been truthful
with the teacher about what had happened, I think.

The only thing I know for sure is this: I am way too much of a control freak to work on something that
time consuming and delicate only to let the kids carry it in the building. No way. If anyone had
dropped those cupcakes, it would have been me.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:16:39 AM
And I likely wouldn't have thought too deeply into it to wonder how other parents might feel about the
situation...

That goes for me too. It would have been done almost without a second thought to be honest on the
basis that it's far too tiny a risk to worry about.

Would I have been making a decision for another person's child - yes, I guess so, but we're talking about
eating a 'possibly not 100% hygienic' cupcake not getting a tattoo!

Posted: 8/4/2013 10:20:05 AM
I honestly think this uptight attitude about germs is why we have so many kids with allergies and asthma.

Seriously.

The only thing I would have done differently from the OP is the lie. I would not have wanted my kid to be
a part of a lie so I probably wouldn't have mentioned anything.

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Otherwise, blow off the dirt (that wasn't there) and enjoy.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:23:25 AM
Gosh. If only she'd had a plan...

You know, this is so true. OP, I never leave the house with cupcakes without a plan for transporting them
securely until the arrive at their final destination. However, just in case, I do have a back-up plan for what
to do if they fall on various different surfaces. This whole situation could have been avoided if only you
had a plan. Live and learn. (Well if the sidewalk cupcakes don't kill you first.)

Julie

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:27:25 AM
Otherwise, blow off the dirt (that wasn't there) and enjoy.

Ummm...do you know how many germs are in the spittle that comes with blowing off the dirt (that
wasn't there) on the sidewalk cupcakes?
Guh-ross!

Now if you are blowing out candles, that doesn't matter, but blowing off invisible dirt is another matter
altogether.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:29:30 AM
Ummm...do you know how many germs are in the spittle that comes with blowing off the dirt (that
wasn't there) on the sidewalk cupcakes?
Guh-ross!
You're supposed to use your shirt to wipe off the deadly and inconsiderate dirt particles and pathogens
from floor foods.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:33:28 AM
The shirt that you probably haven't washed in a month.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:35:59 AM
What's really funny limpea is you just described a few of the peas on this very thread who are ridiculing
the whole dirt thing if you've read some recent threads. Interesting.

I promise you, my kids aren't perfect, my life isn't perfect and my housecleaning isn't perfect. I'm not
afraid or ashamed to admit it.

ETA: OK. One of my kids is damn near perfect. But I can't take credit. It was largely luck that accounted
for it.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:45:14 AM
I don't scrap any of it. I don't care. But my friends know. It is what it is. My house isn't always picture
perfect. My house is NEVER picture perfect. Never has been, never will be. It's good enough.

My goal is to be good to people and raise 3 kids who are good to people and leave the world better than
it was when I found it. If I did that, then I'm happy.

If part and parcel of that is thinking of others first, in my own way, including clean cupcakes, then so be it.

ETA: I guarantee you, I am too human. I make mistakes on a regular basis and I learn from them, like I
think OP did. And she stood up and took her lumps on this thread. There's nothing wrong with that. Not
at all. But to think you don't make mistakes and everyone has to see things your way? Just b/c I and some
others don't want to serve dirt cupcakes we are being told on this thread that we are ridiculous, don't get
it b/c it's a first world problem, are germaphobes, are responsible for the allergies and immunity
problems of today, hyperbole for sure. When in fact I told you, I've eaten stuff just like it, wiped the floor
fork for my child, don't think it was a huge deal in the scheme of things but 1- just would not do it for
someone else, 2- would not have lied about it 3- would have allowed my child to suffer disappointment.

It is a different philosophy. And valid on multiple points. You don't have to agree. But somehow it turned
into Batya is hellbent against people eating a tiny bit of dirt and doesn't realize it happens all the time.
Batya DOES realize this. Batya doesn't even use antibacterial soaps and hand cleansers b/c they are so
bad for us against superbugs. But no one knows what Batya knows and thinks.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 10:55:44 AM
Dude, you are missing my point. I'm saying that's my basic philosophy. Everything I do stems from that.
So if I do something, it's coming from that place. That's all. If I don't serve dirt cupcakes it's b/c I'm trying
to be kind to others. I wouldn't want to do something to them that I would assume is not being done to
me. I am a little flabbergasted that you can turn that into a negative.

But if you want to make it into an elitist thing??? Anyone without money or education can certainly do
good for and be good to others. Not sure how that has to do with being elite. You have some kind of
disconnect. You also didn't get the entitled point.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 11:02:58 AM
I'm late to the party, but I would have done the same thing the OP did under the same circumstances.
Whatever.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 11:11:00 AM
Haven't read the 4 pages of responses...
ok, so is what I did totally bad and unforgiveable?

No! Not at all. Worse things have happened.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 11:44:04 AM
This thread is crazy

Op - for what it's worth I would have probably done the same thing. A few cupcakes that have hardly
kissed the ground for more than a few seconds is not going to hurt anyone.

carry the box inside. hand it to the teacher and tell them the box was jumbled a little bit and C's a little
sad that some are a little bruised. go to C's locker where silent tears are falling and tell him that you told
the teacher the box got bumped but they are fine,

I don't think you actually lied either, you were just a little economical with the whole story of what
happened

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Batya, don't you keep Kosher?

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Posted: 8/4/2013 12:43:52 PM
There is actually growing evidence that our desire for cleanliness is increasing allergies in children.
Children raised on farms where they're regularly exposed to higher amounts of germs and dirt have
statistically lower rates of allergies:

Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology

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Posted: 8/4/2013 12:46:18 PM
Can you tell me what being kosher has to do with this?

And this thread isn't crazy. It's classic pea.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 12:58:40 PM
Did anyone get sick? I'll guess no. The cupcakes were fine. No harm. I would have blown them off,
probably more chance of germs from my breath than the sidewalk, and gone on as if nothing happened.
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We all get freaky about some food thing or another but most of it is in our heads.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 1:05:43 PM
OK, I have a simple solution. Please mail all sidwalk cupcakes to me and I'll take care of them.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 1:10:54 PM
Melanell-I assume store bought treats would be in something sealed. That's the only difference I see.

Could be. Before the "no treats in school, ever" rule came to be, the most popular items were store-
bought cupcakes/bakery cupcakes (Which came in either a cake box or those wretched plastic clamshell
things) or Krispy Kreme donuts.

And I just figured any of those things could be easily dropped as well.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 1:16:42 PM
oh wow, 4 pages! who knew sidewalk cupcakes could inspire such debate!
OP, I never leave the house with cupcakes without a plan for transporting them securely until the arrive
at their final destination. However, just in case, I do have a back-up plan for what to do if they fall on
various different surfaces. This whole situation could have been avoided if only you had a plan. Live and
learn. (Well if the sidewalk cupcakes don't kill you first.)

this is funny, because being a pretty type A, over-thinking type person I thought my plan was fine. they
were securely packed, the top was closed (but not taped or anything) and someone was helping him with
the door. but yeah, then it all fell apart. I had expected that they may be jostled a bit, bumped against
the inside of the box, but not actually dropped.

didn't think about front door security cams.. that's a possibility I guess, but we're a more rural school-
beyond having doors locked and guests having to enter thru the office, security is pretty lax. if the office
gals saw it, they didn't step in to stop them being served so they must not have been too concerned. the
school is small enough that they knew my son and what class he's in.

I was going to link to the molds I used, but they are easily found on ebay and amazon. I remembered the
ones I used were made in china, and probably made with sub-par plastics and poisons, so these cakes
were doomed from the start.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 1:21:08 PM
Batya, you're coming off as holier than thou and over the top worked up about this. Very.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 1:26:00 PM
You know what I think? I think the OP needs to report back how many of those kids are now dead from
sidewalk cupcakes, then we can REALLY get down to brass tacks.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 1:28:16 PM
Done the exact same thing and tell my kid not to mention it. I have boys, they would have looked at me
and said "5 second rule!"

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Posted: 8/4/2013 1:46:33 PM
This thread is kinda getting weird with a beard. To answer the original question, I am thinking I would
have done the exact same thing as the OP. The look in my kids eyes would have pushed me over the
edge. Dirty sidewalk cupcakes for all!

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Posted: 8/4/2013 1:50:45 PM
The hands of the kids eating the cupcakes were, most likely, covered with far more germs and dirt than
the food they were eating. That goes for store bought or sidewalk cupcakes.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 2:15:40 PM
There is actually growing evidence that our desire for cleanliness is increasing allergies in children.

ITA, and have felt that way for years. But I don't think that really has anything to do with the issue people
have with the OP's decision.

The issue would be that most folks were expect that another parent would not serve our kids food from
the floor.

I totally get where they are coming from. It has little to do with germs and more to do with what might
be considered common courtesy.

I don't think all of the people who are upset by the idea are automatically hand-sanitizer worshipers who
hoard anti-bac soap and scour all household surfaces 10 times a day. They just want to think that the
moms and dads of their classmates wouldn't choose to serve them sidewalk cupcakes.

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I disagree. And I think the OP should have just run to the grocery store and bought new cupcakes.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 2:25:08 PM
Just for fun, I'd like to add what we did in summer school last week. The kids did the egg toss and some
of the eggs cracked on the sidewalk in front of the school. The sidewalk definitely did not look clean.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 2:47:40 PM
Can you tell me what being kosher has to do with this?

Keeping kosher means taking food preparation and serving to an entirely different level.

It just seems natural to me that someone who keeps kosher would be concerned with serving food to
others that had hit the sidewalk.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:12:18 PM
Honestly, those beautiful cupcakes were probably cleaner than most of the food we eat at restaurants.
This is why we say grace is what my mom would say.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:21:54 PM
Blind Squirrel - did you then serve them to the kids to eat? With cupcakes for dessert? Because that
would have been rude and violated common courtesy.

That will be our culminating experience for summer school. I hope you didn't ruin the surprise for any of
my students.

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10 second rule. My cousin ate rabbit turds because she thought they were raisins and she lived. A little
dirt never killed anybody.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:35:56 PM
Don't worry, if the birds and other animals haven't gotten to your eggs, you can just do it all over again!
Maybe the OP can cook up another batch of cupcakes on the sidewalk next to your eggs, dump them in
the sandbox where the neighborhood cats have relieved themselves, and your kids will have a snack
they'll never forget.

Lesson plan....DONE!

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:38:28 PM
Some of you peas need to get a grip on reality.

Dude, what? Is this in response to my one line about "common courtesy", because if so I'm a bit
confused.

I'm not worked up about this and I have a fine grip on the crud my kids, myself, etc. eat on a regular
basis.

SO if that wasn't in response to my post, my apologies, but if it was, color me confuzzled.
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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:38:47 PM
I remembered the ones I used were made in china, and probably made with sub-par plastics and poisons,
so these cakes were doomed from the start.

OMG I can't believe that you would do that as well

That's it, you should give up making sidewalk cupcakes and buy the ones from the store that have been
packaged in boxes... that have been stored in some dusty, rat infested store cupboard somewhere before
they put the cupcakes in to sell to innocent shoppers

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:50:58 PM
My first thought was that Gordon Ramsay would rip you a new one. However, I am not going to do so,
because it's not the end of the world. Though I wouldn't have served them, there are far worse things
that you could have confessed to us.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:56:29 PM
the molds I used, but they are easily found on ebay and amazon. I remembered the ones I used were
made in china, and probably made with sub-par plastics and poisons, so these cakes were doomed from
the start.

Miss Tulip, I admire your spunk!Did you have any idea this would grow so long and Pea-cray cray?

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:57:12 PM
The whole thing about common courtesy is just silly. I'm sorry you're confuzzled. When that happens to
me I always take Bailey's Irish Cream and it goes away within 20 to 30 minutes.

I'll see if we have any.

Sorry you felt it was silly. I thought I made abundantly clear throughout several posts already, *I* don't
care if they hit the ground. I'm fine with my kid eating sidewalk cupcakes.

I can feel one way and still understand why others feel another way. And yes, I understand that to many
people it would be common courtesy not to hand out food that had been dropped on the ground.

I like thank you notes. I think its a nice thing to send to someone. However, I don't feel upset, slighted, or
angry if no thank you note makes its way to me after I send out a gift.

I do feel that many people see thank you notes as a "common courtesy". Some people are upset by a lack
of thank you notes due to that belief. I understand that.

Just because I understand where they are coming from doesn't mean I think the non-thank you note
sender nor the cupcake dropper should be run out of town for their "crimes".

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:58:28 PM
Wow, limapea2; you really seem to have it in for Batya. Is it just possible that you 2 disagree? You're
starting to sound a bit manic.

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ITA, and have felt that way for years. But I don't think that really has anything to do with the issue people
have with the OP's decision.

The issue would be that most folks were expect that another parent would not serve our kids food from
the floor.

I totally get where they are coming from. It has little to do with germs and more to do with what might
be considered common courtesy.

I think it's relevant in how our perception of cleanliness relates to common courtesy. My aunt once threw
away a platter of steaks that had fallen on the dining room floor. I can honestly say that her floor is
cleaner than most people's counters. In making the trip from the grill to the table, she slipped and a
dozen steaks fell on the hardwood floor. She threw away a couple hundred dollars worth of steak. I
frankly thought it was ridiculous. I am more offended by the colossal waste of food in this country than I
am by a bit of dirt.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 3:59:58 PM
Because I scrap it all. I scrap the screaming kids, the kids sitting on the potty, the nasty mother-in-law
who is hell-bent on controlling the lives of everyone she meets. I just don't post them all in galleries. But
100 years from now, if the earth is still here, what will the great-grandchildren think when looking
through all these millions of scrapbooks? They'll think, DAMN! Those were some happy people! Didn't
they ever get sick, mad, sad, throw up? How come people only ever took photos of the happy stuff?
There is a certain level of dishonesty where people want to portray themselves as not completely human,
probably because they fear rejection. As if everyone else is not also human.

I'm pretty sure someone actually once published a book about scrapbooking like this!

If the cupcakes were anything like the cake OP, your son did a beautiful job.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:03:11 PM

Batya is?!?!?! Wow. There are some here who seem to feel every response needs a counter-response
and are seriously over the top. And she's not one of them.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:04:58 PM
She threw away a couple hundred dollars worth of steak. I frankly thought it was ridiculous. I am more
offended by the colossal waste of food in this country than I am by a bit of dirt.

I think quite a bit of common courtesy can be seen as wasteful.

How often do we put out huge spreads of food to ensure everyone will have ample choices, even though
we know that there will be ridiculous amounts of left-overs, some or most of which will be wasted?

And all of those greeting (and thank-you! ) cards can certainly be seen as a waste as well.

So, yes, I can definitely see your point, too.

But I don't begrudge anyone their feelings. I'm sorry some are offended by sidewalk cupcakes and I am
sorry you are offended by tossed steaks.

I'm offended by folks who pull right out in front of me, and then drive well under the speed limit.
Sheesh...talk about a lack of common courtesy, eh?

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:13:29 PM
melanell - I agree, the world would be a wonderful place if everyone just sent thank you notes and didn't
dump cupcakes on their heads. But it's a changing world we live in and in my experience very few people
send thank you notes. I think of the time, effort, energy that the OP put into those damn (sorry) cupcakes
and I am weighing that plus her good intentions against any harm the fall may have caused.

Emily Post is dead and gone - almost. I think if everyone just followed the Golden Rule we wouldn't have
to worry about thank you notes because they would pale in comparison. But that's about as likely as
some poor kid dying from OP's confections.

What?? I'm getting the feeling that no one is understanding the point I'm trying to make here at all, LOL.
So I think I'll stop trying. If everyone misunderstands you, then it very likely that you are the issue, right?

I am clearly failing to make my thoughts come out in a comprehensible way here.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:18:19 PM
Funny, I see Peabay responses all over the place. Guess Bruce must approve. FYI - I only post on one or
two topics, every few days. You are quite the regular.

limapea, so what's your point? What does how often you or she participates in discussions on two peas
matter?

FYI.... Peabay isn't the only pea who thinks your responses to Batya on this thread have been over the
top.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:18:31 PM
Before Lima even came to the thread, she was starting to go at it with Lucy and Ashley. And questioning
all of us who had no problem with what the OP did.

It's one thing to disagree, but she's seriously gone above and beyond disagreeing at this point.

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Funny, I see Peabay responses all over the place. Guess Bruce must approve. FYI - I only post on one or
two topics, every few days. You are quite the regular.[\quote]

And that's the point. You're "starting to see."

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:20:56 PM
But I don't begrudge anyone their feelings. I'm sorry some are offended by sidewalk cupcakes and I am
sorry you are offended by tossed steaks.

Ironically it was when I was still a vegetarian and wouldn't have eaten them regardless.... hmm perhaps if
I was the one who had to eat the floor steaks, my opinion would have been different

I did once read a hilarious article in Wine Spectator about the depths of depravity wine connoisseur
undergo when they accidentally drop one of their prized bottles.... the debate about whether one should
wring paper towels of priceless Bordeaux into glasses or grab a straw and drink it straight from the floor. I
figure if the wine snobs can drink $1000 wine off the cellar floor, a few sidewalk cupcakes are nothing.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:30:19 PM
Judging by your comments, it seems that you do indeed keep track of how often others post. Is it such a
bad thing that some peas disagree over how they would handle a tricky situation?

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:33:11 PM
This thread:

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:36:47 PM
Once you pounce on Melanell who always makes good sense and wouldn't hurt a fly, Limapea, you are
definitely going off the rails. Good grief.

ETA: Dani, my friend, you can ask Lucy if she think I was 'going at it' with her.
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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:42:05 PM

Meaning...you see Peabay in multiple posts. Meaning...you seem to be over-invested in this thread. Is it
really so bad that you just disagree with how you would handle this situation????

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:45:42 PM

Yeah, right, it's a club. Maybe some of us just think that you seem a bit intense on this thread.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:50:44 PM
If you are new here since May and just coming back to scrapbooking after 15 years, how do you know
about the smack blog? And there is no club, just a general sense of message board decorum.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 4:51:53 PM
Sue Pea - At the risk of being rude, why would I care what you or anyone else think? So I seem intense on
this thread? Maybe you should log out and go bake some cupcakes. No one's begging you to comment.
It's a free country. I may think you seem a little dim, but I understand that you wouldn't care. I was
responding to the whole OH MY GOD THERE'S A SPECK OF DIRT ON THE CUPCAKE issue. You can go
ahead and respond to that too, if you want. Or you can continue to monitor me. I'd share my Bailey's
with you, but I may need the rest before Real Housewives starts.

lol, no reason why you should. Just like there is no reason in the world why I care what YOU think. I enjoy
commenting,and I will continue to do so. And if you don't like it, that's tough.

scrap4maddie
Posted: 8/4/2013 5:00:02 PM
There is no way I would serve food that was on the ground to anyone- kids or not. Would you have
Sometimes you harm
the cause more than
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served those to your coworkers? I am not a huge germaphobe but that is gross. I am starting to
understand why so many throw away homemade food gifts.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:08:36 PM
Oh Sue Pea, please don't say "that's tough" if I don't like what you post. Now my entire evening has been
ruined, perhaps the rest of the week. Because honestly, I DON'T like what you've posted, and now that
you say it's tough, I realize I must suffer. I guess I'll have to skip watching the Real Housewives tonight,
and instead bone up on my Ethics of Responding on a Scrapbook Blog pamphlet that I got at a recent
sidewalk sale. And all this time I was hoping we could be friends.

Awwww, now you've gone and made me feel bad. Seriously, if you're trying to be sarcastic, you need
to do better. I. don't.care. And I will continue to post whatever the hell I want. Don't like it, you know
what you can do.

I don't know why you just can't admit that you just see things differently than some others. But I guess
that it takes all kinds.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:09:32 PM
...bone up on my Ethics of Responding on a Scrapbook Blog...

Puh-leeze. This is a message board, not a blog.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:12:29 PM

Not strange; just unusually rigid. Again, why not just say that you see things differently? I don't get it.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:13:22 PM
I think it's relevant in how our perception of cleanliness relates to common courtesy. My aunt once threw
away a platter of steaks that had fallen on the dining room floor. I can honestly say that her floor is
cleaner than most people's counters. In making the trip from the grill to the table, she slipped and a
dozen steaks fell on the hardwood floor. She threw away a couple hundred dollars worth of steak. I
frankly thought it was ridiculous. I am more offended by the colossal waste of food in this country than I
am by a bit of dirt.

OMG. I would have washed those babies off, popped them back on the grill for a few seconds, and
slapped them on the table. And I wouldn't have cared who saw me do it, either.
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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:16:04 PM
Lucy-- I would have washed the steaks too. You can wash steaks. You can cut off the top of the cupcakes
with a knife to salvage them, I guess, but can't wash those.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:24:07 PM
limapea, you have 47 posts here on twopeas and 31 of them are on this thread. You are playing last word
AND you're being rude and insulting to nice people that you don't have any kind of history with. New
people are welcome but rude people aren't. So don't be surprised that people are getting offended by
your posts. They have become quite offensive. As that has nothing to do with which side of this debate
anyone falls on.
ETA: Dani, my friend, you can ask Lucy if she thinks I was 'going at it' with her.

bwahahahaha ha. eeek. ha haha. okay, sorry.

Dani, I do appreciate the thought, but I can disagree with Batya without it becoming a fight to the death
or anything.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:26:08 PM
Again, isn't that the point of a discussion board - to see things differently?

That is the point...so why didn't you just disagree with Batya and move on?
It seemed more like you were trying to convince her she should think like you, or agree with you, when
she obviously doesn't.

OP...I probably would have cried along with my son...then told the teacher what happened and let her
decide how to use, or not use the cupcakes...maybe made a mad dash to the closest supermarket to
purchase more.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:26:29 PM
Sue Pea, pardon me, but you seem a bit rigid going on and on about - actually I can't even remember
now. I'm not even sure what you want - me to "admit" I see things differently? Isn't it already apparent
that I see some things differently than some people here? Who cares?! Did you want me to say, You are
absolutely correct, Sue Pea, I see things differently than others. Okay, done. Some of you peas are
wacky.[\quote]

I see. You don't want to disagree. You want to...what? Convince others that they're wrong? Honestly, I
don't know what I would have done in the OP's situation. But whatever I would have done, I don't feel
the need to beat others over the head with said decision.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:35:06 PM
Blue Tulip - Those Lego guys are fantastic. What a cool thing for your boy to do.

Never let a good Lego go to waste. The Legos had to be saved! The cupcakes were just along for the ride.

<Daring to talk about the OP again. Is this terms for dismemberment here?>

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:43:33 PM
Oh Sue Pea, please don't say "that's tough" if I don't like what you post. Now my entire evening has been
ruined, perhaps the rest of the week. Because honestly, I DON'T like what you've posted, and now that
you say it's tough, I realize I must suffer. I guess I'll have to skip watching the Real Housewives tonight,
and instead bone up on my Ethics of Responding on a Scrapbook Blog pamphlet that I got at a recent
sidewalk sale. And all this time I was hoping we could be friends.

Your brand of sarcasm is so over the top and grating. It's hard enough to follow the blocks of text you
keep posting, but coming in here with guns blazing, throwing a lot of negative attention at one person
and bringing up smack blogs with a tiny post count is an interesting way to ease into the community.
Presuming you haven't been a member of the boards all along, of course.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:49:01 PM
<Daring to talk about the OP again. Is this terms for dismemberment here?>

She has handled this so well with a great sense of humor. I might eat her sidewalk cupcakes just because
she's been so awesome about taking these responses in stride

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:54:30 PM
Do we have a new drama llama or an old pea with a new name?

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Posted: 8/4/2013 5:59:17 PM
Some would have served them (and I am making a mental note about this for future)

For what purpose?

for the spread sheet of course
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Posted: 8/4/2013 6:01:44 PM
The OP has handled this with grace and humor-well done, Blue Tulip!

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Posted: 8/4/2013 6:02:08 PM
I am starting to understand why so many throw away homemade food gifts.
Not the first time this has been mentioned on this thread. Are store-bought cupcakes somehow
impervious to sidewalk filth?

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Posted: 8/4/2013 6:04:50 PM
you people really think you own this show, don't you. I was never rude, I was simply commenting on
remarks here

Batya - You find no irony in the statement you just made that there are so many entitled adults today???
Look in the mirror if you have the stomach for it.

But you haven't been rude, right?

That's just from me clicking on a random page where your post happened to be at the top. Your posts
have been dripping with cringe-inducing sarcasm and little barbs.

I-95
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Posted: 8/4/2013 6:07:04 PM
I spend just as much money on scrapbook supplies as you people do, and NONE OF YOU own this board
(Lucy, I'm talking to you). I didn't realize there was a Post Count Advisory Board keeping watch on who
posts what, where and when.

It wouldn't take much to spend more on scrapbooking supplies than most of us do....most of us don't
scrap! Although I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

WTF? What do you mean Lucy doesn't own this board? Of course she does

It is not unusual for someone to mention a person's low post count, especially when they are so
opinionated. And whether you like it or not, there is a hierarchy here, just like there is at most places,
whether it's a message board, a job, a community group etc. that's just how the world goes 'round.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 6:12:20 PM
the school is brand new, with smooth concrete walkway. it looks absolutely clean- no dirt, no salt.

It's still the ground, shoes walked over it, maybe some gas from a car leaked into the driveway and
someone walked through that onto the sidewalk. If they were so intricate you really should have walked
them in yourself and not have an 8 year old carry them. I am curious to see a pic of the cupcakes.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:23:10 PM
people are welcome but rude people aren't.

DING! DING! DING! Either you are an old pea with a new user name or you lack the general social skills
that are required to win friends and influence people.
I-95 - So you're on a scrapbook site, don't spend any money on supplies, don't scrapbook, and yet you
think there is a hierarchy and there are some queens? Do you people take yourselves seriously? At least I
spend money at Two Peas as well as other places and put out 3 to 6 pages a day. I certainly don't lord it
around some imaginary scrapbook kingdom where I don't even scrapbook! Oh my god, the Real
Housewives are sane nuns compared to some of you! You actually crack me up. Hierarchy my ass. None
of you have any power - zip, zilch, zero.

Actually all us do have power over who we choose to engage with on this message board or not. I am
exercising my power to not engage with you by making judicous use of the ingore button to put you on
ignore. bye bye

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:30:04 PM
I spend just as much money on scrapbook supplies as you people do
Well hell, if this is a criteria I had better quit posting.

Now off to read the last couple of pages to see how this pea got her panties wadded up.

ETA:
At least I spend money at Two Peas as well as other places and put out 3 to 6 pages a day.
Do you do anything else?

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:31:13 PM
Personally, not a factor that would be on my radar. I think we all eat plenty in restaurants that we are far
unaware of worse that we don't even know. (From having worked in them.)

I probably wouldn't have served, but that's just me. I probably would have indicated the incident and
offered the next day, ran to the store for packaged rice crispie treats or some other quick fix for a
"delayed" snack.

In our district, treats have to be sealed from the store for their liability insurance purposes.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:35:35 PM
FFS you are all crazy. Three pages for sidewalk cupcakes. SMH
I read part of the first page this morning, and walked away thinking, meh. Came back to 4 pages. Wow,
what the hell happened? Tried catching up, but had too cook dinner. Come back and now it's 6 pages.
Epic. I'm afraid to tell my husband what I've been reading as he'll think I'm kidding.
I remembered the ones I used were made in china, and probably made with sub-par plastics and poisons,
so these cakes were doomed from the start.
This made me snicker though.
My take is that when you cook and bake from home, you have more to lose. YOUR time and energy went
into it, plus homemade costs more. Walmart cupcakes are like, $12 for 24. That's cheap. I can't make
cute, truly homemade cupcakes that cheap.

The OP baked and frosted cupcakes, ordered special molds, melted chocolate, bought food coloring and
dyed it different colors, took steps between layers by setting it in the freezer, then assembled them and

took care to package and transport them.

Way different than dropping cheap Walmart cupcakes. No pain there. I think I would have salvaged the
Lego men, then dashed to Walmart and bought cheap replacements to stick the men in, since that's what
was important to your son, and what "made" the cupcakes what they were.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:38:27 PM
I forgot to add, I wouldn't care if I was served a sidewalk cupcake. Life's too short to get your panties in a
bunch over a little cupcake dirt.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 8:44:18 PM
Or any at all I assume.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:09:55 PM
I agree with limapea2. You are all just a bunch of clicky real housewives who have no life. If you were
good mothers you would be buying scrapbooking supplies and actually raising your children instead of
throwing your weight around on a message board!!!!!!1!1!11!1

I-95
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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:25:31 PM
I don't know Lucy very well but I can't wait to have our first imaginary lunch so she can tell me all about
the new royal baby. I'm sure she's in the know there too.

Lucy doesn't do lunch with anyone who hasn't been here at least 10 years. There are standards which
must be maintained.

ETA: But she would have lunch with Sanctimommy

sues
Posted: 8/4/2013 9:33:28 PM
But 100 years from now, if the earth is still here, what will the great-grandchildren think when looking
"Surrounded by
thugs."

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through all these millions of scrapbooks? They'll think, DAMN!
They'll think "Damn- why did this bat shit crazy woman scrap the crazy MIL, the poop and the vomit?"

Seriously- don't let the door hit you in the ass, lady. You're 12 kinds of crazy.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:36:48 PM
I am def going to need peatastic's "Week In Review" write-up on this thread to keep it all straight!

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:52:32 PM
peatastic, our historian, must be thrilled with this weekly fodder-and it's only Sunday~!

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Posted: 8/4/2013 9:59:20 PM
The Queen of the Imaginary Scrapbook Kingdom

Lucy, I think you have a new Pea Title.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 11:28:02 PM
Do you people take yourselves seriously?

Only on Thrusdays.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 11:36:15 PM
And now apparently I waste time in an imaginary scrapbook kingdom with imaginary scrapbook queens
who don't actually scrapbook or even spend money on the site that hosts them.

We're like the scrapbooking world's anti-matter. Any contact between NSBR and actual scrapbooking
results in major chaos on a global scale.

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Posted: 8/4/2013 11:52:39 PM
Excellent leftturn.
Posted: 8/4/2013 11:57:41 PM
I'm a totally craptastic mother. I would have eaten those dirty cupcakes. There is no excuse for wasting
good frosting. God made dirt, dirt don't hurt. I have eaten wayyyy worse. Heaven knows what is on the
samples at the store. I will take random foor from strangers. I can't ever say what is in things people hand
me. I worked in kitchens. I watched people "wash" dishes. Yeahhh if yiu think you are getting pristine
food at restaurants... good luck with that! We are all lucky we are built to fight the bacteria etc. I believe
if people saw the stuff that happened in kitchens, no one would ever eat out again. The point is, we are
just not that dainty. Stuff will get in our food. We all eat our own hair, pet hair, tiny bugs, etc. each day. It
is what it is. People just aren't that special, get over it!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 12:21:03 AM
I go to sleep, and this thread hits 6 pages! Blue Tulip: you are definitely a tier 1 pea from now on .

And sidewalk cupcakes? Me, I probably wouldn't have served them to the kids (i think, maybe), but I
would have no problems eating them myself (and not serving them to the kidswould have meant more
cupcakes for me).

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Posted: 8/5/2013 12:22:00 AM
Oh, and do we get a cupcake-badge?

Enough
StuckOnPeas

Posted: 8/5/2013 12:26:51 AM
And now apparently I waste time in an imaginary scrapbook kingdom with imaginary scrapbook queens
who don't actually scrapbook or even spend money on the site that hosts them.
This is the NSBR board = Non Scrap Book Related.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 12:53:50 AM
sues - You would make a fabulous historian or archeologist.

Some people are just observant. I've observed you've been deleting posts from the "I'm Racist" and eBay
threads. What's up with that?

Edited to add that it looks like you've changed your username from "shapardanis" since making those
comments, which may be the reason they aren't showing up.

So what's up with THAT?

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:05:47 AM
I did so want to be part of this magic secret girls' club, but I wasn't aware of the "hierarchy" when I
joined. Now I'm starting to change my mind.

Yup, there's a hierarchy. Blue Tulip just moved to the top for her good grace through this debacle.

And I appreciate your willingness to change your mind and scoot the hell out of here so you don't have to
associate with the rest of us imaginary folks.

And Lucy, next time we see each other in real life, I will be sure to genuflect appropriately

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:36:46 AM
Well, since the OP asked...

I totally get that the "sidewalk cupcakes" don't bother some people and that's fine, but I wouldn't make
that decision for someone else's child and I'd be irritated if it was made for mine. I'm with Batya on this -
and I do love my own children, even more than I love my children's classmates.

1. I wouldn't have put my child in the position of having to keep this secret from his teacher and
classmates. (And I'm using "keep this secret" instead of "lie to" only because the OP is so very carefully
worded so that the child was not directly told to lie.)

2. I would have thrown away the cupcakes that fell on the ground because:
(A) I wouldn't be comfortable serving them.
(B ) I'd rather my child be disappointed about the cupcakes than think it's okay to trick people into eating
something. Accidents happen and we deal with them the most responsible way we can, which isn't
necessarily the easiest way. Just as there are (apparently) life lessons to be learned by eating food that
has fallen on the sidewalk, there are life lessons to be learned about dealing with best laid plans that go
awry.

I'm not saying people who'd eat the cupcakes are filthy, I'm just saying (because it was asked and is being
discussed) that I'm not comfortable with it and wouldn't do it. Mostly, though, my issue is with the
deception involved, both the fact that the teacher and classmates weren't told the truth so they could
choose for themselves, and the fact that the OP's child was/is expected to maintain the charade.
The OP has handled this with grace and humor-well done, Blue Tulip!

Absolutely!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:43:33 AM
Holy hell. Why do the crazies always find ME??

For the record, I do scrapbook and I do shop here at 2peas. But I don't want to be imaginary queen of
anything.

gar
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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:02:39 AM
Well this thread took an interesting turn overnight

Limapea2, you're going to exhaust yourself if you carry on at this rate! Of course, if you're a 'new' pea,
you will perceive a hierarchy of sorts but it's because we've been around for a while, hung out together,
have a history of shared stories etc, not because anyone is better than anyone else, or Queen of
anything...well, except Lucy of course

This is the equivalent of walking into a party and starting to critisise and pick arguments with everyone in
a loud voice. What reaction did you expect? If you'd been part of the group in that situation would you
side with them or the stranger?

And, as someone just pointed out, this is the Non ScrapBook Related forum so not scrapping is not a
crime here, but the norm.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:43:39 AM
Do you people take yourselves seriously?

Only on Thrusdays.

Awesome.

Posted: 8/5/2013 7:10:28 AM
Holy hell. Why do the crazies always find ME??

For the record, I do scrapbook and I do shop here at 2peas. But I don't want to be imaginary queen of
anything.
I'm sorry, Lucy, it look like it's too late. It appears you have already been crowned.
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Posted: 8/5/2013 9:09:02 AM
Well good morning to you too limapea! Let's get this day started off right.

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an illusion & nothing
exists
Posted: 8/5/2013 10:36:21 AM
Holy crap this is one the funniest things I've read here in a while!

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gar
Whoopea!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 10:50:03 AM
What was that about 'us' wasting 'our' time? That's quite a passage you've typed out there.

However, HRH Queen Lucy, Leader of the Imaginary Non-Scrapbooking Kingdom and her Attendants
somehow think that they have ownership and control of this site.

I just have no idea how you got this idea in your head but you're coming across as mad as a box of frogs
so...carry on, it makes amusing reading

oh yvonne
Pea-rom Queen

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Posted: 8/5/2013 10:50:07 AM
Holee crap is right! I'm gonna have to grab a bigger platter for Limapea...she's forking pea asses
left and right here, the weight of it by now must be staggering!

As for the OP, bless yea gal, what a great thread! I do with those that say had it been an unpopular Pea
posting this ..oh, like ADDHW or even Mrs T, boy the thread would have gone waaaaay different.

However, I think this thread has been for the most pretty nice, people feel free to be honest with their
answers for once, rather than respond with some kind of agenda because they hate the posting Pea so
much.

I think I would have picked them up, taken them to the teacher and whispered what had happened, and
then gotten on a co-sign to serve them up anyway. I agree they weren't contaminated and fine to serve,
but I'd feel too guilty not admitting to it. I would be afraid of the backlash should a parent be upset if
they found out about the spillage.

lucyg819
pearl-clutching
nitpicker

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:27:58 AM
*sigh*
I think I would have picked them up, taken them to the teacher and whispered what had happened, and
then gotten on a co-sign to serve them up anyway. I agree they weren't contaminated and fine to serve,
but I'd feel too guilty not admitting to it. I would be afraid of the backlash should a parent be upset if
they found out about the spillage.

Actually, that right there is a really good compromise answer. I could live with dumping all the
responsibility onto the teacher.

SockMonkey
LibrariaNerd

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:29:57 AM
I just realized I never weighed in on what I would have done!

I would not have served the cupcakes, but for one reason only: PARANOIA.

I'd be too scared someone saw me and would bust me out/judge me. I could give a crap about the dirt.
LOL!

Sue_Pea
Old Pea Coven
member wannabe

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:34:41 AM
I think that it's safe to say that this thread is going into our Hall of Fame. It's right up there with turkey-
gate!

SockMonkey
LibrariaNerd

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:35:30 AM
I want a tiara.

kellybelly77
PeaFixture

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:39:54 AM
I am starting to understand why so many throw away homemade food gifts.

Because if the OP is willing to just pick up cupcakes off a dirty sidewalk where anyone could see, what is
she doing in the privacy of her own home when baking them? Flour bombed the floor, no problem, I just
swept last week so let me sweep that up and re use it. Did I get it too salty? Lemme just dip this finger
right in and take a taste.

mommc23
StuckOnPeas

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:44:12 AM

Why do I feel as if I have just stepped into a middle school girl fight?

To the OP-

Please have your husband read this thread. It's always fascinating to see the PEAS self-implode on
matters as important as sidewalk cupcakes!

I this place!!

SockMonkey
LibrariaNerd

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:46:01 AM
I think it's time to do the Superior Dance.

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Loc: Illinois

I-95
anyway!

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Orlando

Posted: 8/5/2013 11:51:16 AM

Handing Sock a tiara!

flanz
Ancient Ancestor of
Pea

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Posts: 6,054
Posted: 8/5/2013 11:51:46 AM
GROSS! ITA with
this is why many schools ban home made treats

I think it was terrible. you could have cut remaining cupcakes in half, tried again another day..whatever.
just unacceptable.

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scrappower
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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:51:49 AM
Oh limapea, just walk away....you will never win or change the NSBR, it is futile to try.

flanz
Ancient Ancestor of
Pea

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:53:21 AM
It was a great parenting moment to help your child learn how to deal with sucky things in life. Would that
have made him 100% happy? No, but would be a great skill to start on.
Yes!

gar
Whoopea!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:54:07 AM
What a load of bollocks quite frankly. You seem to be confused about the definition of
bullying.
Again, none of you OWN this site,

Again, just remind me where any of us said that we did?

Sharna_G
AncestralPea

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Posted: 8/5/2013 12:05:19 PM
I'm just popping in to say that this
FLOOR CUPCAKES. 99% PEA APPROVED.
is my new siggy for the remainder of the year. And I'd be worried about this, too:
I would not have served the cupcakes, because I would be worried that the story would eventually come
out, and my son would be known as the "dirty cupcake kid."

I-95
anyway!

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Orlando

Posted: 8/5/2013 12:08:22 PM
What makes you think you have so much power on a website? It's all in your head, and you are able to
get away with it because a lot of people choose not to confront you. It's not worth the time and energy.

Or maybe the idea that anyone has any power here is all in your head. Wherever the idea comes from,
you seem to have the time and energy to pursue it...just like anyone else can. If other Peas are afraid to
speak up, or defend themselves...or even walk away when they think they're under attack...isn't that
their problem? Just because some Peas don't have a problem saying what they think doesn't give them
power in their heads, it gives them power in the head of the person who thinks anyone here has greater
power than anyone else.

I see I must now hold your collective hands and explain what a hierarchy is. A hierarchy (in the way you
are using the term) is that small group at the top holding power.

Since I first used the word, I should point out that your perception of how I was using the word, is
incorrect. I simply meant that there is a ranking system (as noted next to each of our names with the
length of time we have been here and post count, ergo a recognized hierarchy) but it does not imply any
greater power. There are Peas who have been here for 10+ years who don't say much at all. There are
others who post frequently. The only way the hierarchy is recognized, specifically in the way I was
referring to a hierarchy, is when someone makes a comment about low post counts, or length of time
here. That does not imply greater power, just more believably....so you can let go of my hand now

SockMonkey
LibrariaNerd

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Posted: 8/5/2013 12:14:45 PM
For instance, I could blow most of you out of the water with my education and background, but I
wouldn't.

Why not? I love to read an extensive CV.

peenese
PeaNut

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Posted: 8/5/2013 12:14:53 PM
Batya sucks ass and is generally a rude pea-yotch and the amount of time she spends posting on twopeas
is proof she couldn't peel herself away long enough to make homemade cupcakes and create nice
memories with her children. Most peas have really crappy lives and come here as an escape and the
mere fact they have nothing else going for them makes then the popular girls by default. Who else could
spend so much time creating an online persona. I actually have to help my crumb snackers crack an egg
so I can't be here 24:7

CountryHam
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Posted: 8/5/2013 12:35:54 PM
It's still the ground, shoes walked over it, maybe some gas from a car leaked into the driveway and
someone walked through that onto the sidewalk.

I think as long as the dirt was gluten free, red dye free, HFCS free, and vegan it's all good.

blue tulip
AncestralPea

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Posted: 8/5/2013 12:44:54 PM
because i'm bored at work:

I identify with the pea who said she was afraid to tell her husband what she had been reading.. i'm
wondering wtf my husband is going to say when I show him this thread tonight lol. who knew.

myshelly
Ancient Ancestor of
Pea

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:06:10 PM
I would like to take a moment to be thankful for this thread.

Just when I thought this was a boring and quiet summer by pea standards...

I mean, no one found turds by the pool
No one found buggies in their crotch
Donna Downey hasn't made the news
We've been sadly lacking in haikus

But now we have found a new level of crazy in our very own pea version of The Cupcake Wars.

So, thank you Blue Tulip and thank you Limapea.

All hail Queen Lucy!

stittsygirl
I AM SHER LOCKED

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heart of...

Posted: 8/5/2013 1:06:22 PM
This thread is killing me. I guess we've been schooled, ladies .

FTR, I would have eaten the cupcakes in this particular scenario, and would have probably given them to
the kids.

Bumpsy
PeaAddict

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:07:10 PM
Again, none of you OWN this site, and you are not a sponsor

Who said they did or they were? Have I missed something?
Sidewalk cupcakes and cray cray, it's what's for dinner!

lucyg819
pearl-clutching
nitpicker

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:17:01 PM

oh, crappity. I may never be able to show my face around here again.

Peabay
Happy now?

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:20:35 PM
Blue tulip - those were really funny!
Posted: 8/5/2013 1:21:51 PM
Any comprehension?

gar
Whoopea!

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Nope, you're obviously far superior to me.

And for the record there have been PLENTY of warm welcomes for new peas here, usually the ones that
don't come barging in insulting us though. You know, just like in real life.

Rebelyelle
PeaFixture

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:31:11 PM
Do you welcome the new neighbor on the block by telling them they seem a little crazy, over the top and
then suggest they leave the neighborhood?

Under normal circumstances, no, no I would not - I might even bake cupcakes and bring them over.

However, if my neighbor changed her name, insisted she never lived next door, was a brand-spankin'
new person, and then proceeded to tell me off because I acted like the queen bee of the 'hood, then yes
- she would be told she was a crazypants.

thatgirlintexas
Get off my lawn!

Posted: 8/5/2013 1:31:40 PM

I have found my new pea title!!
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sues
"Surrounded by
thugs."

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:35:20 PM
At the risk of overstaying my welcome

That ship sailed.

Clearly you are lonely and not a little unstable. All these ranting, bizarre, posts make me think it's time to
call your dr. and have your meds adjusted.

Seriously- you are way too invested in arguing with people here. It's sad.

myshelly
Ancient Ancestor of
Pea

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:40:38 PM
in case I should have the fabulous luck of having Batya invite me to an invisible luncheon at the palace so
that we can exchange lists.

Wait, wait, wait...Batya lives in the palace, too? I thought Lucy was Queen. What's Batya's title?

I mean, Batya and Lucy are two of my favorite peas, so I'm fine with them being aristocracy, I would just
like to keep the titles straight in my head.

SockMonkey
LibrariaNerd
Posted: 8/5/2013 1:43:18 PM
So sockmonkey, I guess I should parade all my accomplishments around on some scrapbook site in an
attempt to impress everyone with how fabulous I am? Kind of like what Batya does with her never-
ending lists of books? Is there some point to listing every book you've read in a type of competition? Is it
possible that you could judge me, and I could judge you based on what I write? Do you really need to
know more? This is a discussion board, not a dating site. You don't know if I'm black, white, hispanic,
arab, whatever, although I'm sure you could guess. You don't know where I went to school, what I do or
have done for a living and nor do you need to. That's the whole point. You are looking for information
you can use as a weapon, which I won't give you. If you knew I was black, would that change your
attitude? If I was poor? Wealthy? A high school dropout? Had a post-doc?

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Baby sugar, the only thing I know about you is that you don't understand written sarcasm.

KikiNichole

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Yellow Brick Road

Posted: 8/5/2013 1:46:57 PM
Limapea...I have just one question for you, if you don't mind.

Based only on your posts on this thread, why hang out here? What enjoyment are you finding from
NSBR.

Okay. Two questions. Indulge me if you would.

dottyscrapper
StuckOnPeas

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:48:46 PM


I have found my new pea title!!

Gagemom

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:48:54 PM
Do you welcome the new neighbor on the block by telling them they seem a little crazy, over the top and
then suggest they leave the neighborhood? Only to find out to your chagrin that in comparison you
appear to be a 12th century peasant?

Welcome to the neighborhood. I'm having whatever you're having.

sues
"Surrounded by
thugs."

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:49:02 PM
Also:
"Why would the door kick me in the ass? Am I going somewhere?"

You got our hopes up when you said "I did so want to be part of this magic secret girls' club, but I wasn't
aware of the "hierarchy" when I joined. Now I'm starting to change my mind."

Jeez- try to keep up with the shit that you spew.

Bumpsy
PeaAddict

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:49:06 PM
Holy Moly Limapea, LET.IT.GO. Wipe the spittle off your keyboard, eat a cupcake, make a layout and have
a nice day.

oh yvonne
Pea-rom Queen

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:49:46 PM
LOL.

This is so fun!

<reaches into the cabinet for another platter for Lima>

Or is that instigating? LOL. Lima and her flamin' fingers...just wants to keep on goin...

Meanwhile, well, ya'll fight over that tiara. <adjusts busted, moldy old Prom Queen tiara perched on
head> I'm not givin' up mine.

melanell
Ancient Ancestor of
Pea

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:50:04 PM
But now we have found a new level of crazy in our very own pea version of The Cupcake Wars.

So, thank you Blue Tulip and thank you Limapea.

Sue_Pea
Old Pea Coven
member wannabe

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everywhere

Posted: 8/5/2013 1:53:31 PM
Hmmm, "rantish"-is that anything like crackalackish???

oh yvonne
Pea-rom Queen

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:54:40 PM
This thread is badly in need of Moni..to make the circle complete.

sues
"Surrounded by
thugs."

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Posted: 8/5/2013 1:58:00 PM
And no, I'm hardly lonely I actually have far too many people and obligations in my life, sues. Not
unstable, actually more than stable and you will be shocked to learn I am quite popular

See, now seriously- the endless ranting, bragging, delusions of grandeur- it's making you seem manic. You
have no 'medium'. You can't agree to disagree. You have to be right, superior, unchallenged. The sheer
volume of posts to this thread makes me think you must be really going through something.

I'd urge you to step away, but you probably won't. I'm telling you though- your posts are making you
seem like you are unbalanced and possibly volatile.

SockMonkey
Posted: 8/5/2013 1:59:33 PM
LibrariaNerd

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Gagemom

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:00:17 PM
Am I the only one that is a little irritated that they didn't get an e-vite to be in the Old Pea Coven? I also
did not get a cupcake or tiara. Sheesh. I've been here 12 years, I participate.

Free~Bird
Posted: 8/5/2013 2:03:19 PM
wow, a whole bunch of ppl around here need to un-fucking-clench. That yardstick my slide out of your
asses.

Seriously? all this over *cupcakes*?

Deep breath. Count to 50. Pet a kitty. Click that red X in the upper right corner. Life just got easier.
bird now

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dottyscrapper
StuckOnPeas

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:04:39 PM
I'm busy trying to read the entire collection of the Encyclopedia Britannia,

Hmmm..... may I suggest that you try Encyclopedia Britannica instead. Far more educational that learning
about a Royal yacht that has been decommissioned.

leftturnonly
Will trade
mosquitoes for
cookies.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:04:51 PM
Please cut and paste where I was insulting, as it refers to the actual meaning of the word.

It's all a matter of perspective.

What makes this place different from other boards is that it really is a community. People actually do get
to know each other here and become life-long friends both online and in real life.

You didn't just post on a cupcake thread begun by someone with a great sense of humor, you freely
walked into an established group of people without recognizing anything but their perceived faults and
you felt quite fine making those judgements known.

Some of us have gone through or are going through extremely difficult times in our lives. Personally, I
opened this thread after coming from the funeral of my MIL. Within the past 3 years we have buried 5
family members, including my husband. You've absolutely no idea how incredibly insulting it is to have
such tragedy thrown in your face as an insult by some complete stranger, apparently, or you wouldn't
need to ask.

I've no doubt you've received an excellent education, but imagine someone walking into your church (if
you don't go to church, replace that with another group you are involved in) who immediately begins to
criticize this, that, and just about every other thing around him/her without getting to actually know the
people there first. That's what you have done here.

Just for the record, you've taken this position on a cupcake thread where no one is even bashing the OP.
Sweet!

kellybelly77
PeaFixture

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:05:09 PM
OMG Dottyscrapper! That was hysterical!

PS- my autocorrect wants to change Dottyscrapper to DirtyScrapper!

melanell
Ancient Ancestor of
Pea

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:06:09 PM
crackalackish

Awww. I haven't seen that word around here in far too long.

melanell
Ancient Ancestor of
Pea

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:09:30 PM
Seriously? all this over *cupcakes*?

Aw, come on Free Bird. This is 2 Peas. You know darn well we typically fight over at least 2-3 topics per
multi-page thread.

We're fighting about cupcakes, 2 Pea royalty status, and how to welcome (or not welcome) new (or
merely renamed) members to the fold.

Kelpea
Owner of "best tacky
invitation" thread
EVER

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Gahan

Posted: 8/5/2013 2:11:51 PM
<------------was here.

Wow. So many hilarious comments. This thread is gonna become epic, I'm sure.

Welcome to Pealand, Lima! Although, truth be told, I'm thinking you are an alter...you remind me so
much of DesertPea, but can't be sure 'cause I got that twit on ignore.

sues
"Surrounded by
thugs."

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Posts: 33,204
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Loc: SW Chicago
suburbs

Posted: 8/5/2013 2:12:05 PM
sues - I really hate to do this, I really do. But I think you may be the one going through something (like a
bruised ego), and frankly, your evaluation skills don't seem very impressive or up to par. I appreciate your
concern for my well-being, and I don't want to stomp on an already fragile psyche. But everytime anyone
posts that I seem to be posting too much, does it never occur to them (or anyone) that they, too, are
posting? A little ironic, wouldn't you say?

Interesting.
But no.

I'll leave you to your issues. Clearly, they are overwhelming.
I hope you seek help. Don't make the people in your real life pay. (Remember the real people? They are
the ones you are ignoring while you post 3000x here, in two days.)

melanell
Ancient Ancestor of
Pea

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Layouts: 86

Posted: 8/5/2013 2:20:22 PM
Here you go, Sock:

A Tiara Fit for a Sock Monkey

gar
Whoopea!

PeaNut 172,235
October 2004
Posted: 8/5/2013 2:22:15 PM
You're the only one not laughing here Limapea, you're taking it far, far too seriously.

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Loc: England UK

SockMonkey
LibrariaNerd

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:27:33 PM
You could always go back and read what I ACTUALLY wrote, but I wouldn't bother to waste the time or
energy. It's CUPCAKES I was FIRST responding to, then BULLYING I was LATER responding to. God, I know
it's not good so early in the day, but where is my friend Bailey?

leftturnonly
Will trade
mosquitoes for
cookies.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:35:48 PM
What are you going on about.

Damn, I tried going back to quote you exactly, but this thread's gotten too long too fast.

You wanted to know what you said that was insulting. I gave you one example. You said something about
people who spend too much time here having miserable lives. Except for the fact that many people here
are going through very miserable times in their lives, that's not insulting at all.

Maybe I should have replied to you the way you have replied to others, except I was trying to discuss
with you the merit of one of your posts as you were whining no one was willing to do.

Go on with your badass education. You're the only one here who's had one.

Pretty In PeaNK

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Loc: Travelin'

Posted: 8/5/2013 2:37:10 PM
Husband: What are you reading?
Me: A thread about cupcakes.
Husband: Really? Cupcakes?
Me: (sigh) It's 8 pages. Lots to read.
Husband: 8 pages! Over cupcakes!? You're kidding, right?
Me: (silence because I don't know how to answer)
Husband: Seriously, you're kidding, right?
Me: (nervous giggle) They fell on the sidewalk...
Husband: (silent pause) That place is crazy...

Yep, that's my 2peas. The crazy is what keeps me coming back.

leftturnonly
Will trade
mosquitoes for
cookies.

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Posts: 22,257
Layouts: 0

Posted: 8/5/2013 2:43:33 PM

BwaHaHaHaLOL.

Sue_Pea
Old Pea Coven
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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:46:46 PM
The only thing that would make this thread better is a cupcake haiku

SockMonkey
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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:52:36 PM
Cupcakes tumble down
Vicious arguments ensue
Who gives a right f*#&?

MergeLeft
Typical Liberal

Posted: 8/5/2013 2:55:13 PM
Avoided cupcake
Thread but finally gave in
And read. WTF?

Lucy is new queen
Lima pea is frothing now
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All over cupcakes.

Old pea coven where?
Did not invite me; heart breaks.
Sadly leave thread now.

Peabay
Happy now?

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Posted: 8/5/2013 2:59:31 PM
Dog sh!t on cupcakes?
Brush it off/they're fine/at least
it's not pool party poop.

(my last favorite multi-pager about nonsense.)

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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:01:06 PM
I admit you hit a raw nerve. I opened a thread about cupcakes after attending a difficult funeral not
expecting the miserable life card to be played.

You got me. Well done you. Well done.


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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:01:17 PM
love haikus!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:02:09 PM
Seriously crying now . I love you people so damn much

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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:17:17 PM
I myself have had plenty enough suffering and I don't go on threads to find solace.

No, you hit the Bailey's. Hard, apparently.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:20:02 PM
You just can't control these discussion, as HRH Lucy well knows. She's practically knocked herself out
trying.

WTF??

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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:21:33 PM
Lucy, I think your crown's been usurped by Limapea2. And she only just gave it to you.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:24:12 PM
trying.

lucyg819
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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:27:50 PM
Here is the sum total of what I've had to say to limapea on this thread:
people are welcome but rude people aren't. So don't be surprised that people are getting offended by
your posts. They have become quite offensive. As that has nothing to do with which side of this debate
anyone falls on.

I don't think I've said anything else that could be construed as trying to direct the discussion here.

Lady, you are long past looneytoons.

ETA above is in reference to limapea's statement:
trying.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:44:54 PM
Lady, you are long past looneytoons.

Lucy, I do believe you might be referring to me only because I just wasted my lunch hour reading 8 pages
about cupcakes! What was I thinking?

blue tulip
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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:47:43 PM
Husband: What are you reading?
Me: A thread about cupcakes.
Husband: Really? Cupcakes?
Me: (sigh) It's 8 pages. Lots to read.
Husband: 8 pages! Over cupcakes!? You're kidding, right?
Me: (silence because I don't know how to answer)
Husband: (silent pause) That place is crazy...

this, and the haikus, made me actually lol. this place:

Blind Squirrel
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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:49:37 PM
So, what's for dessert tonight?

lucyg819
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Posted: 8/5/2013 3:51:11 PM
Again: WTF??

And: LOONEYTOONS!!

gar
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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:11:23 PM
Yup, definitely bonkers.

Posted: 8/5/2013 4:14:16 PM
Avoided cupcake
And read. WTF?

Lucy is new queen
Lima pea is frothing now
Simply_Lovely
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All over cupcakes.

Old pea coven where?
Did not invite me; heart breaks.
Sadly leave thread now.

This just totally made my day!! Thank you!!

back to *pea*ality
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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:14:58 PM
And whether you like it or not, there is a hierarchy here, just like there is at most places, whether it's a
message board, a job, a community group etc. that's just how the world goes 'round.

you are one of the few honest enough to admit it I95. Carry on....

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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:23:10 PM
Lucy~You've been dubbed the queen! I think you should just embrace it!
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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:23:13 PM

I don't know if I prefer "Old Pea Coven" or "Coven of thugs." Thoughts?

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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:25:54 PM
I personally would not have served the cupcakes, but don't really care to judge someone who would.

As usual, a thread has really turned out...weird.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:30:36 PM
Do you have to be over 65 to join?

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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:32:04 PM

You DO get a special discount if you are over 65, I understand. Or maybe you just get to stand closer to
the cauldron to keep warm.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:40:25 PM
I want to thank everyone on this thread for keeping me entertained while I recover. It's was/is more than
I could have ever asked for. Could all the same players pick a new topic tomorrow? I'm kinda over the
floor-cake topic. Maybe close parkers, the neighbors barking dog or SaranWrap vs ClingWrap, or go rogue
and choose your own!

Thanks!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:41:47 PM
PS, if this is any indication, I am SO NOT napping my second nap on Thrusday because I don't want to
miss more of that day than I absolutely have to!!

gar
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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:45:53 PM
gar, Lucy - Pretty weak defense when all you can come up with is calling someone crazy. That's your
proof? Your facts? "Your honor, I move that the jury hold the defendant guilty because she is BONKERS.
Wait, I meant to say, LOONEY. That's the correct term, right Your Honor?" So far I've given you FACTS,
you've given me names. Sad. And there STILL is no hierarchy, only a coven of thugs, some who follow
them, some who don't, and a hell of a lot who don't care.

No its not my defence, my proof or fact, just my opinion based on my feeling that you are way past
reasoning with. Call that what you like

gar
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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:45:58 PM
gar, Lucy - Pretty weak defense when all you can come up with is calling someone crazy. That's your
proof? Your facts? "Your honor, I move that the jury hold the defendant guilty because she is BONKERS.
Wait, I meant to say, LOONEY. That's the correct term, right Your Honor?" So far I've given you FACTS,
you've given me names. Sad. And there STILL is no hierarchy, only a coven of thugs, some who follow
them, some who don't, and a hell of a lot who don't care.

No its not my defence, my proof or fact, just my opinion based on my feeling that you are way past
reasoning with. Call that what you like

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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:47:16 PM
hard, black, rocky little turd where your soul should be.

OK, does anybody else smell a hit song???? Country, I think-much more despairing.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:48:43 PM
BwaHaHaHaLOL.

Lefty - is that your version of covering your bases following the LOL vs haha thread?
Posted: 8/5/2013 4:53:27 PM
Of course........

gar
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Free~Bird
bird now

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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:59:19 PM
I'm 100% sure this is the leading story in next weeks "week in review"

leftturnonly
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Posted: 8/5/2013 4:59:38 PM
Lefty - is that your version of covering your bases following the LOL vs haha thread?

You betcha!

mosquitoes for
cookies.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:00:43 PM
I'm 100% sure this is the leading story in next weeks "week in review"

I can't wait to see who plays Limapea2 in the Lifetime movie version.

Peabay
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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:02:14 PM
I demand to see Lucy's birth certificate.

She is not MY queen!
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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:04:09 PM
I demand to see Lucy's tiara!!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:04:36 PM
Make sure you get her to produce the long version, Peabay!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:09:24 PM
leftturn - May I? Sigourney Weaver would be a shoe-in.

Ah yes. The Alien comparison is an inspired choice.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:12:41 PM
If you pass this physical, you then must prove your loyalty by standing in front of Target and screaming at
everyone who enters,

Bit difficult for Gar and me but will this meet with your approval as a substitute?

Simply_Lovely
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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:20:23 PM
P.S. He was a damn good defense lawyer too. Has won every case. So there.

So there!!!

I-95
anyway!

PeaNut 97,456
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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:29:17 PM
And I believe it was your minion I-95 (someone else?) who did indeed verify that you were the queen. I
didn't give you the title, your sidekick did. AND, I was not rude in any way, shape or form.

A minion, she called me a minion!! Damn. There goes all my delusions of grandeur!! How will I ever get
passed this?

But...just to set the record straight, you dubbed Lucy with the title of Queen, Chlerbie didn't actually
confirm it, she just said 'Lucy, I think you have a new Pea Title.' I don't think that qualifies as
confirmation, but if I'm the minion in charge of bestowing titles and handing out tiaras....well, I'll have to
go off and think about who I am going to crown next.

Oh, and you are rude. You can say you're not, but a denial from the accused does not hold any weight.
However, I haven't been able to find the section, in the Royal Handbook, that confirms whether I'm
allowed to have an opinion, or not.

What I'm curious about is why you bring up things like "I spend just as much money on scrapbook
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supplies as you people do", or " For instance, I could blow most of you out of the water with my
education and background"....nobody, in 9 pages, has asked about your education, or your scrapbooking
habits...nor do I think anyone cares, but those are the kind of things people who feel inadequate usually
bring up when they're feeling, well, inadequate. I will say it's nice that you have learned to use
paragraphs though.

SockMonkey
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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:30:34 PM
Aliens are often misunderstood. However, they are quite bright.

I don't know. Ever see "Signs?" Aliens who are allergic to water come to Earth...a planet that is 80%
water. Not exactly a genius move, if you ask me.

And if one of you crazy bitches gets mad at the spoiler here, I am just going to remind you that "Signs"
came out in 2002. So you've had 11 years to see it. Shut it.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:32:40 PM
hard, black, rocky little turd where your soul should be.
----------------------------------------------------------
OK, does anybody else smell a hit song???? Country, I think-much more despairing.
Sue_Pea, you are definitely onto something here.

You are like a cupcake with that hardened frosting,
You're so cold you can't even attract clean sidewalk cooties,
Harboring a hard, black, rocky little turd
where your soul should be.
You just aren't the Lego man for me.

[chorus]
Sidewalk Cupcake! Sidewalk Cupcake! I reject you.
You broke my heart and now I'm going to smoosh you.

The meter needs a little work, but I'm sure it's going to be a big hit.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:34:30 PM
Yesssss!!

I-95
anyway!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:41:52 PM

So there

Any questions as to whether this is an old Pea with a new name should be dispelled with that comment
alone!

NoDoze
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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:48:50 PM
I'm just here for Sock's gifs. And to see how many people one person can insult in one thread. Keep it
going, lima. You may break a record here.

BeckyTech
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Posted: 8/5/2013 5:52:53 PM
So there
--------------------------------------------------
Any questions as to whether this is an old Pea with a new name should be dispelled with that comment
alone!
I'm not exactly a newbie, but I was completely unaware that that phrase had any pea significance. Can
you enlighten me, please?

ETA: Limapea, she said "gifs" not "gifts". GIF is an image file format, like a jpg or png.

Sarah*H
Bring me that
Posted: 8/5/2013 5:57:50 PM
Can you enlighten me, please?

Stacey Julian and something about soldiers and owls. It doesn't really matter - it's the "So there" that will
live on in pea infamy.
horizon!

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Simply_Lovely
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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:12:23 PM
I am NOT Stacey Julian.

Nobody said you were. I doubt Stacey would be trolling the NSBR.

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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:13:30 PM
Socks gets gifts when people insult each other? This place gets more bizarre by the second.

Wait...

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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:18:47 PM
Wow, 9 pages of entertainment... Gone for a few days and already missed so much. For the record OP,
I'm not sure what I would have done in the moment. I would be tempted to salvage the situation, but at
the same time, wouldn't want to set a bad example for my kid. You lied to the teacher, and then told
your kid you lied and told him to keep lying about it. I probably would have seriously considered buying
cupcakes and having him bring them in the following day.

NoDoze
Posted: 8/5/2013 6:37:21 PM
Sock's gifs ARE gifts. Figure that one out, Einstein.
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I-95
anyway!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 6:58:15 PM
Obviously Lucy owns the board, you said so, but your friends don't even know?? What the hell! There
appears to be disorganization in the kingdom. I suggest you call Batya ASAP. She seems to be the type
that organization would appeal to.

I'm shocked you would take the word of a minion for such an important declaration....but I'll give Batya a
call on the Bat phone and she if she wants to be Queen...or can I just name anyone I want cuz there are
dozen who are qualified.

IleneScraps
StuckOnPeas

Posted: 8/5/2013 7:01:25 PM
I'll give Batya a call on the Bat phone

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I-95
anyway!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:05:17 PM
I am NOT Stacey Julian.

I was not suggesting you were, just that by using the 'so there' comment, that you had been around long
enough to know its origin. I don't think I've seen anyone else use it, other than as a reference to the
original Stacy Julian debacle.

The only fascination we might have with old pea/new pea situations is, normally if someone changes
their name, they let everyone know e.g.'I used to be I-95, but I've moved to the West Coast, so from now
on I'll be known simply as I-5'. It's when a no name Pea shows up, takes on the entire Pod, claiming to
have just tripped across the site, but manages to zero in on some long time Peas...well, folks get a little
suspicious. That's all.

beachgurl
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:10:52 PM
Not an attorney but I had to live with one. For years.

Held against your will? Why do women that like to think they are intelligent, strong women say that
they "had" to live with anyone?

sidewalk cupcakes? Definitely not worth this much consideration. Serve them or don't serve them, not
that big of a deal.

Sock, a big thank you for the Superior dance gif. I needed that laugh!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:30:55 PM
Well, that is better than the husband excuse I was expecting. But seriously, any houseguest that you
need to argue with constantly, needs to be an ex-houseguest.

Since this also seems to have turned into an attack on the reading threads each week, let me say how
much I appreciate them. I don't always post what I read, but I am glad others do. I love having some
suggestions as I check out the library. So, thanks to Batya and those who do post there. Besides, how is
listing books you like any different from listing movies or tv shows you like? Different people are
interested in different things. It keeps life interesting. Now I need to go read what I picked up from the
list this afternoon.

Kelpea
invitation" thread
EVER

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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:43:38 PM
I'm not Liiiiiiisaaaaa. My name is Juuuuuuleeeee, er, Liiiiiimaaaaa.

I-95
anyway!

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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:53:10 PM
I certainly wasn't zeroing in on anyone in particular.

Sure you were, you pounced on Batya (whom I'm about to crown Queen) and that brought out her
defenders....because, y'know, some of us actually like her, and her books

But really, I don't care who is Queen, or who is Batman (although I'm keeping the bat phone) I just want
to see this thread go to 10 pages...

IleneScraps
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Posted: 8/5/2013 7:56:40 PM
I just want to see this thread go to 10 pages...

Well, in that case....

no way does Batya read all those books she claims in one week.

Some people are fast readers.

And how do you know so much about everyone if you're such a new pea?

SockMonkey
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Posted: 8/5/2013 8:05:04 PM

*ingrid*
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Posted: 8/5/2013 8:05:50 PM
I wasn't attacking books per se, I was attacking the pretentiousness of anyone claiming they read such a
stack in a week,

Maybe you should ditch the "my education blows you out of the water" attitude before attacking the
pretentiousness of someone who dares discuss the books they like to read. You're the only one talking
themselves up here with the "I read REAL books," "I'm super educated," "I kick ass at arguing"
statements.

I've dealt with people who are so empty and starved for attention that they engage intensely in negative
interactions with others when they lack the social skills to have positive relationships, but you really take
it to a whole new level.

*ingrid*
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Posted: 8/5/2013 8:23:14 PM

IleneScraps
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Posted: 8/5/2013 8:23:45 PM
Zombiegurl was funny, so she receives a Royal Pardon.

SockMonkey
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Posted: 8/5/2013 8:29:29 PM
HEY! POLICE QUEEN SQUAD! Zombiegurl just called mmzzz or someone a slack-titted gorgon. You say I'm
rude! Where are you Lucy?!?!? Do you approve of this? AND she called her a c***y bitch!!! I feel I have
every right to tattletale since apparently I'm the one who is being called rude! I really hope to see some
Pea Coven Police Action on this one (it's on the Teresa and Joe Giudice site). I BETTER see some police
action on this one. You guys have high standards - you guys have COMMON COURTESY.

IleneScraps
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Posted: 8/5/2013 8:33:48 PM
What!?!? You think that's funny?? Portnoy's Complaint is funny. Zombiegurl is just crude. It's not funny,
it's not even good writing. Unless your standards have reached up into the fifth grade level. Sad. I'd really
like to hear Lucy's take on this, though, if you don't mind. After all, she is the queen and you aren't.

I'll let Lucy speak for herself, but your rabid rants are really starting to remind me of someone. But, of
course you're new.

IleneScraps
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Posted: 8/5/2013 8:40:11 PM
Ignoring the rest of my statement is all the confirmation I need. Thanks.

*ingrid*
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Posted: 8/5/2013 8:42:34 PM
What!?!? You think that's funny?? Portnoy's Complaint is funny. Zombiegurl is just crude. It's not funny,
it's not even good writing. Unless your standards have reached up into the fifth grade level. Sad. I'd really
like to hear Lucy's take on this, though, if you don't mind. After all, she is the queen and you aren't.

leftturnonly
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Posted: 8/5/2013 8:50:38 PM
The meter needs a little work, but I'm sure it's going to be a big hit.

I hear it's already catching on among the 8 year old crowd.

leftturnonly
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Posted: 8/5/2013 9:00:19 PM
Batman doesn't scrap. Duh. So you can't use his phone.

You are too wrong for this to be Monday, so I'm declaring today Thrusday.

Nowhere have you demonstrated your tierage more than not knowing about the Pea access to the
Batphone.

I'm sorry to inform you that you are now first in line when the Zombies come.

...my fabulous achievements...

What a minute..... you didn't leave your husband for your cousin by getting cuz to fall in love with your
hot dance moves and your platinum gold spandex outfit, did you?

'Cause if you did, I'd love an update on how your life's been going.

MergeLeft
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Posted: 8/5/2013 9:14:05 PM
What a minute..... you didn't leave your husband for your cousin by getting cuz to fall in love with your
hot dance moves and your platinum gold spandex outfit, did you?

'Cause if you did, I'd love an update on how your life's been going.

Awesome.

Posted: 8/5/2013 9:21:23 PM
I this board so much. It's most entertaining when a simple wwyd about cupcakes turns into a
debacle.

AngieM76
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I-95
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Posted: 8/5/2013 9:26:01 PM
I Ingrid!!!

OK, 10 pages....Lucy crowned, Batya elevated to Dutchess, a Royal Library established, Sock has a trunk
full of tiaras and gifs, the Limabean has gone to bed....all is right in Pealand.

A Complicated Lady
PeaAddict
Posted: 8/5/2013 9:31:05 PM
Lucy is the queen
Minions do her dirty work
All hail queen Lucy

The pea queen is crowned
It is the bully Lucy
Or is it Batya?

Too many pea crowns
This minion is quite confused
Thread is closed. So there!

Cupcakes started it
Then the thread went looney tunes

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Da fuq happened here?

Artbabe
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Posted: 8/5/2013 10:32:47 PM
Wow. I read the first page, went on with my life, and when I returned it has come to this? I love this
place.

I'm seriously disappointed, people. You can't call it an epic thread without Hoff. Especially the one with
the stripper pole- I haven't seen that in awhile.

Someone mentioned this earlier, but I'll mention it again. As someone who is bipolar I recognize classic
mania when I see it. That is just exhausting to read. Seriously, there are lovely little pills called
antipsychotics and someone should probably look into them.

Oh, and I am totally team sidewalk cupcakes...

NoDoze
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Posted: 8/5/2013 10:52:33 PM
Fine. Here you go:

NoDoze
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Posted: 8/5/2013 10:54:05 PM
And to complete this thread:

Me GOP
Movin On Pea

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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:09:15 PM
Rapid rants, not rabid.

Nope. I'm pretty sure you are coming off a bit rabid.

People love to claim "hierarchy" and bullying, but you yourself said no one "owns" the site beyond the

webmasters.

It's an unmoderated board mostly. It isn't up to you to police.

I understand you feel mistreated, but at the end of the day, you don't control what other posters write,
any more than they control what you write.

Its words on a message board that you choose to continue to read. Continue to come back. That is YOUR
choice. You have the power to choose another message board if this isn't a good fit for you. You have the
power to post or not. You have the power to post your opinion.

No one is controlling you here, anymore than you are attempting to control others responses.

Apparently, the hits this board gets, does bring revenue to the board owners, lest why would it even still
be in existence?

You are right. No poster has any more "power" than another. It's what anyone chooses to post, or not
post, read or not read, participate or not participate in.

You still post. You are participating. Therefore, you are just as much trying to control other's responses as
you claim they are controlling yours in my mind.

scrappinghappy
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Posted: 8/5/2013 11:28:05 PM
All i'm saying is I hope the OP forgot to check that little box that says "Checking this box will notify you of
every response your thread receives "

miominmio
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Posted: 8/6/2013 12:01:30 AM
12 hours later, and this thread still keeps on going I this place!
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zombie*grrl
WHO PUT A DICK IN
THIS BOX?

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Posted: 8/6/2013 12:30:24 AM
Tattling to the other tier peas, looking for backup?
lulz
I expected more from such a highly educated and skilled debatist. What a whiny twunt.

gar
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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:31:22 AM
and proceeded to argue with him intensely for ten years,

No! Really?

miominmio
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We probably have something to look forward to
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Mystie
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love.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 3:30:27 AM
I stand by my statement - I call bullshit on Batya's intake. She's fudging something somewhere.

You'll have to call bullshit on me too then, because I'm pretty sure my book intake stacks right up with
Batya's. (Batya, shall we whip 'em out and compare length? ) I don't think Batya is so starved of self-
esteem that she needs to lie about how much she reads on a message board.

Kelpea
invitation" thread
EVER

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Posted: 8/6/2013 6:33:15 AM
Coming back in...to say I am really surprised at who Lima calls bullies. I mean, really. Batya? Lucy? I have
had many an interesting exchange with both of them, and to be honest, we have not always agreed with
each other. But I don't remember ever being upset or hurt by our exchanges, or that I was bullied. Now
the real bullies have yet to come into this exchange. ((Well, a couple of 'em have...))
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Posted: 8/6/2013 8:04:12 AM
OK, 10 pages....Lucy crowned, Batya elevated to Dutchess, a Royal Library established, Sock has a trunk
full of tiaras and gifs, the Limabean has gone to bed....all is right in Pealand.

You forgot! YOU are a minion!!!

gar
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Posted: 8/6/2013 8:47:38 AM
why not just ignore me if it's so painful?

Painful? No, just mildly amusing Why don't you ignore us?

miominmio
Posted: 8/6/2013 8:54:18 AM
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I DID look it up " on the bipolar spectrum", "inflated self-esteem"......

~jennifer~
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Posted: 8/6/2013 8:55:17 AM

grandiose
[gran-dee-ohs]

adjective
1.
affectedly grand or important; pompous: grandiose words.

2.
more complicated or elaborate than necessary; overblown: a grandiose scheme.

3.
grand in an imposing or impressive way.

4.
Psychiatry. having an exaggerated belief in one's importance, sometimes reaching delusional
proportions, and occurring as a common symptom of mental illnesses, as manic disorder

And to amuse myself, I took a look at your layouts. Not impressive at all.

miominmio
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:10:46 AM
Sweetie, I DID look up hypomaniac, maybe you should too?

gar
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:25:42 AM
So what's your goal here? You've clearly confirmed to yourself that we ar, collectively, a waste of space
and intellectually inferior so what's next? Are you hoping to make us all see 'the light' and exclaim "My
god, she's right you know! We all need to change our ways and we'd better start now!"

miominmio
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:32:38 AM
A Freudian slip, lima .

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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:33:39 AM
minmiomin looked up the correct spelling. That was simply a typo in her second post. What she copied
may have come from PsychCentral: hypomanic episode symptoms
A hypomanic episode is not a disorder in itself, but rather is a description of a part of a type of bipolar II
disorder. Hypomanic episodes have the same symptoms as manic episodes with two important
differences: (1) the mood usually isn't severe enough to cause problems with the person working or
socializing with others (e.g., they don't have to take time off work during the episode), or to require
hospitalization; and (2) there are never any psychotic features present in a hypomanic episode.

A hypomanic episode is characterized by a distinct period of persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable
mood, lasting throughout at least 4 days and present for most of the day nearly every day. This
hypomanic mood is clearly different from the person's usual mood.

During the period of mood disturbance, 3 or more of the following symptoms have persisted (4 if the
mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree:
- Inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
- Decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)
- More talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking
- Flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing
- Distractibility (e.g., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)
- Increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor
agitation
- Excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g.,
the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments)

A hypomanic episode is associated with a change in functioning that is uncharacteristic of the person. For
example, the individual may be far more productive or outgoing and socialable than they usually are. This
change in functioning and in mood is not subtle, the change is directly noticeable by others (usually
friends or family members) during a hypomanic episode.
A hypomanic episode is also not severe enough to cause serious impairment in social or occupational
functioning, or to necessitate hospitalization, and there are no psychotic features. The observable
symptoms of a hypomanic episode must not be due to substance use or abuse (e.g., alcohol, drugs,
medications) or caused by a general medical condition (e.g., hyperthyroidism or diabetes).

People who experience a hypomanic episode are often diagnosed with a type of bipolar disorder called
Bipolar II.

A hypomanic episode brought about by the effects of a drug or psychiatric treatment (such as starting a
course of antidepressants) is generally not diagnosed, unless it continues to persist beyond the
physiological effects of the treatment.

Science Direct: Hypomanic Personality Abstract
Hypomanic personality traits have been shown to predict manic episodes, substance abuse, and
engagement with pleasurable but potentially harmful leisure activities.

It would seem to fit.
I assume limapea generally has this under control if she is aware of the diagnosis.

And with that said, I am off this thread. This is quickly turning into poking fun at another's illness. I don't
want to look back and see that I knowingly took part in that.

SockMonkey
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:36:40 AM

SockMonkey
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:48:04 AM
I hope that answered your question. P.S. I've already done a load of laundry, walked the dog and cleaned
the kitchen since I posted this morning. That is hypoMANIA.

Dude, isn't that just maintaining a household? I've done laundry, gone to the gym, and cleaned my
kitchen, too, but I don't got the cray.

scrappower
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:51:58 AM

SockMonkey
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:52:35 AM
Scrappower, that one's awesome!

scrappower
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:53:06 AM

scrappower
Posted: 8/6/2013 9:54:41 AM
Thanks sock monkey, the Prince one is still my fave though.
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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:57:25 AM

Woobster
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the Couch Pea

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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:58:22 AM
So yes, I allowed him to move in and proceeded to argue with him intensely for ten years

This is all starting to make sense...

MergeLeft
Typical Liberal

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Posted: 8/6/2013 10:00:47 AM
Why not welcome the comments of newbies rather than pouncing, and what the hell - if an uppity
newbie bitch comes along and gives you a little what-for,

I think you'll find that's exactly what we do when the newbie has anything worthwhile to say.
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You, my dear, are nothing but piss and wind. That's why you're getting the treatment you find so
offensive. If you're going to be obnoxious, we require you to also say something worth considering. So
far, that hasn't happened.

jeremysgirl
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Posted: 8/6/2013 10:00:52 AM
OMFG...finally made it to the end and can't believe this is still going on. FTR, I would not have served the
cupcakes but I probably would have eaten them.

~jennifer~
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Posted: 8/6/2013 10:02:28 AM
And with that said, I am off this thread. This is quickly turning into poking fun at another's illness. I don't
want to look back and see that I knowingly took part in that.

I agree.
Posted: 8/6/2013 10:24:45 AM
some even call it out of this world fabulous brilliance. I, of course, am far too humble to claim that

IleneScraps
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linda~lou
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Posted: 8/6/2013 10:41:04 AM
Oh man , love me some Prince!

I-95
anyway!
Posted: 8/6/2013 10:48:48 AM
Despite what some of you reactive peas would like to believe, I'm actually very ethical, compassionate,
hard-working, intelligent, thoughtful, and I don't like to put up with crap.

Wow, you just described all the Peas you take issue with, or take issue with you....like Batya, Lucy, Merge,
ScrapPower, Sock, Sues, Kikinicole, Leftturn...and others. None of them put up with any crap and they're
smart, compassionate, hardworking, very ethical, and not anywhere near as nasty/sarcastic/mocking as
you have been. Maybe you should take your own advice, as given to Lucy, and look in a mirror, cuz what
you're presenting here....ain't very pretty.

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CraftChickaPowPow
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Posted: 8/6/2013 10:51:09 AM
some even call it out of this world fabulous brilliance. I, of course, am far too humble to claim that

about time for a new siggy I think. This little gem has PMS and Mad Cow Disease beat to hell

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Posted: 8/6/2013 11:29:07 AM
it's just a matter of changing one's paradigm (couldn't think of another word).

Try perspective. That's the word I told you pages back with the concept that you are only seeing things
one way here.

SmartyPants71
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Posted: 8/6/2013 11:34:38 AM
This thread is so over the top but I keep coming back for the gifs. I just animated gifs!

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Posted: 8/6/2013 11:38:09 AM
What is this thread even about anymore? I think I stopped opening it and reading back when it was only
on two or three pages. Guess I'll have to sit down and read 3-11?

leftturnonly
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Posted: 8/6/2013 11:44:02 AM
What is this thread even about anymore?

A new person with a very strong personality has chosen this thread to introduce herself to the peas by
claiming the smack blogs are right about many of the other strong personality peas.

This is what happens when cupcakes hit the sidewalk. It's messy business all around.

Monklady123
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Posted: 8/6/2013 12:13:13 PM
Thank you for that summary Leftturnonly. I guess it could be entertaining later on. Maybe.

leslie_scraps
PeaNut
Posted: 8/6/2013 12:15:45 PM
Ok, I'm like some of the rest of you and I can't believe I've actually read all this to the end. Lima, what is it

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with you and parties? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you aren't the sort that would behave in a
socially acceptable manner in any setting, much less a party. I was amused by your comment about being
popular, thanks for making me laugh. The grandiose discussion a few pages back: totally relevant. Why
do you have such an axe to grind with complete strangers? Where are your family members, who should
be administering your meds? Also, you seem to know so much about others on this board, to be so new.
What's up with that? I'm a newbie as well, and I don't know anything about who reads what, or what
their posting habits are.

You are far too invested in this thread and I think you should step away from it and cut your losses at this
point (but that isn't gonna happen).

OP, heck yeah, I would have totally been down with my kid eating your cupcakes.

I-95
anyway!

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Posted: 8/6/2013 12:16:57 PM
Strange how some of those EXACT same names you just listed come up over and over on the pea smack
board. Strange how so many people on that board, for so many years have the EXACT same complaints
about those same people. Also strange how I am getting messages from other peas saying they agree
with me completely. So I guess I'm bi-polar, strange, crazy, whatever. I guess I'm imagining what I read
and the conclusions that I draw from that, which is that some of you are actually pushy, arrogant,
insecure bullies who try to elbow out anyone you don't agree with.

For so many years? I thought you just found both 2Peas and the blog. So how do you know who has been
getting smacked for years?

I have never actually understood the reason for a smack blog. If anyone wants to say anything about
anyone here, why don't they just say it....here?

You have pointed out, multiple times, that if a person just says what they think, but says it nicely, one can
stand up to anyone who may come across as a bully, or a 'top tier Pea' or even the freaking Queen of all
Peas (which from now on will be whomever I designate, from my all powerful position of minion ) I
think everyone here, at some time or any other, had had their ass handed to them. If they stood up for it
at the time, nicely of course, then they remain here. If they run away with their tails between their legs,
they probably end up at the smack blog, crying like little girls about whomever they believe has wronged
them.

As is often said 'NSBR is not for sissies'. Strong, independent women post here. Sissies post to the blog.

OMG...did you just pull the pmail card?

gar
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Posted: 8/6/2013 12:31:27 PM
Then you should have a clear understanding of what bullying is - and this ain't it. VASTLY overused term
unfortunately.

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Dalai Mama
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Posted: 8/6/2013 12:38:49 PM

IleneScraps
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Posted: 8/6/2013 1:10:17 PM
Have I mentioned I'm a fast reader?

Yes you did. You're also brilliant, and have multuple amazing achievements that no one on this board
could hold a candle to. And you're a defender of all the weak and bullied who can't speak up for
themselves. I think we get the picture.

IleneScraps
StuckOnPeas

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Posted: 8/6/2013 1:22:55 PM
Compared to your "rapid" rants, everyone is slow.

whirled peas
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Posted: 8/6/2013 1:27:26 PM

oh yvonne
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Posted: 8/6/2013 1:29:58 PM
It's the degradation of another human by using the power of the pen to attempt to hold sway over them,
belittle them, make them feel unwelcome, and just being an all-around piece of shit.

Yeah, kind of the way you treated LeftTurn after she admitted to you that she was hurting because of her
recent losses? I'd say your degrading responses to her probably pretty much made her feel like an "all-
around piece of shit".

Well done.

<golf clap>

Carey Ayn
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Posted: 8/6/2013 1:35:13 PM

Posted: 8/6/2013 2:02:15 PM
Wow, just wow.

scrapper_t
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That is all.

Gagemom

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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:02:47 PM
We need a cupcake gif! And possibly a bat shit cray cray lady with mad skills we do not possess gif...

I wish the cupcake song was on itunes.. I want that for my ringtone

AngieM76
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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:15:23 PM
Limapea2, I've read this entire thread and have kept my mouth shut about the term "bully" being thrown
around. Although I have been here almost 10 years, I don't engage a whole lot. However, the women on
this board, on this thread, are not bullying you or anyone else. You need to stop using that term.

My son has been bullied and I'm 100% confident that you do not sign off this board and feel the way he
did and does when he is bullied. Bullying is not a term to just throw around.

If bullying was attributed to a reason why your sister committed suicide than you of all people should not
throw that term around. The women on this board can not be compared to a man who brow beats a
woman or physically and or mentally abuses her.

The women on this board are strong, they speak their minds, they don't all agree with each other, but its
not bullying. If you can't take the heat of someone disagreeing with you, it's best you get off the board
now.

Say whatever you want back, it doesn't matter to me, I won't engage. I just had to get that off my chest.
STOP throwing the term bullying around.
Loc: NE Indiana

I-95
anyway!

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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:16:20 PM
I-95 - A lot of people won't fight bullies because they don't have the confidence to do it or they just don't
want the bother. Luckily for all of you I have some time on my hands. My obligations aren't what they
used to be so I've gotten back into scrapbooking after being gone for years. So everything was new to me
last year. It doesn't take long to read all the smack blogs, and forums on the business sites either. Have I
mentioned I'm a fast reader?

I do have a beef with bullies. A huge contributing factor to my sister's suicide was the fact that her
husband bullied and used her to the point she was broken and could no longer fix herself. Medication,
prayer, yoga, you name it, didn't work. She tried to divorce him a few times but backed out. She died
because of a selfish, narcissistic, arrogant, greedy bully. Plus my career was in the mental health field
helping those who are victims. Yes, I have an axe to grind and time on my hands. Luckily, I have the time,
money and energy to engage in all my pursuits!

I am very sorry for the loss of your sister. I only have one sister and it would be incredibly painful to lose
her, especially to suicide and more especially a suicide caused by an abusive bully.

I guess I must fall into the overly confident personality range...I don't like bullies, nor do I suffer them
lightly. However, I do see a difference between what some people are calling bullying, and strong
opinionated women posting those opinions. To blame people here (like those I named early) and call
them bullies is simply that, name calling. If a Pea posts a strongly worded opinion, in opposition to
another post....and the person she's opposing feels bullied, I have to say I think that's the problem of the
one who feels bullied, especially when it happens on a message board. There are options...one can walk
away and go join a 'nicer' board. One can slink away telling themselves that they have, yet again, been
slapped down (therapy is helpful in this situation). They can put the offender on ignore, or.....if someone
else feels that the offender was indeed involved in an act of bullying, they will undoubtedly call them
out....hopefully in a nice way.

Most of us are parents and are quite capable of recognizing bullying behavior when we see it. I have seen
it done to a few of Peas, but honestly, the ones that I would consider to be the 'victims' are also Peas
who have no trouble at all standing up for themselves. Those who believe they have been bullied and
can't/won't stand up for themselves, should probably accept the fact that this board is not a healthy
place for them. If I found myself in that position, I would be hanging around, hoping for acceptance, I'd
go find some place I was comfortable with and with people who accepted me. It's not that hard to figure
out....what IS hard to figure out is those who feel victimized and either stay to get more of the same, or
spend their time running between this board and a smack blog, to lash out whomever they believe has
grieved them. Now, in my mind, that's a serious waste of a life.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:23:16 PM
The women on this board are strong, they speak their minds, they don't all agree with each other, but its
not bullying. If you can't take the heat of someone disagreeing with you, it's best you get off the board
now.
Hear, hear! Bullying is systematic targeting. Not what's happening here.

ETA* Oh, unless you're talking about bringing up the same peas over and over again PAGES after they last
posted just to continue bitching them out. Then, I guess, you could make an argument.

*ingrid*
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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:28:27 PM

Some call it cray, some call it energy, some even call it out of this world fabulous brilliance. I, of course,
am far too humble to claim that.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:44:18 PM
UNLESS, of course, the receiver is a bully (sorry AngieM), and you are responding to stupidity or bullying
yourself. Ridicule, sarcasm, etc. is perfectly acceptable when dealing with the irrational and the nasty.
Now that is rationalisation.

Batya and Lucy haven't posted for pages. And yet you continue with your ridicule and sarcasm.

doesitmatter?
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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:47:11 PM
We have a cupcake thread and not a single mention of cookies?

We have met the haiku requirement at least

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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:47:40 PM
A huge contributing factor to my sister's suicide was the fact that her husband bullied and used her to
the point she was broken and could no longer fix herself.

I'm sorry for your terrible loss.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 2:48:35 PM
And thanks, now Dd needs a tiara for her sock monkey

Periwrinkle
Posted: 8/6/2013 2:55:33 PM
I wouldn't have served the cupcakes.
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I wouldn't have told my son that "no one will ever know it happened". To me that's sort of both role
modeling and endorsing lying in one fell swoop.

What I would have done is told my son it was okay, that sometimes accidents happen. I'd tell him it sucks
that he doesn't have enough for everyone, especially since he worked so hard on them, but there were
still enough for him to share with the neighbor kids after school, or as an extra dessert the next day. Id
give him a big hug, walk him in to class, explain what happened to the teacher and ask if there was
enough time for me to run to the grocery store so that I could pick up some cupcakes or cookies for him
yo share with the class.
Then I'd find the best, ready made cupcakes I could find and eat the cost

My husband would probably eat the floor-cakes , but I don't think he'd have served them either.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 3:00:36 PM
11 pages, and the best answer to the OP has finally been found!
I wouldn't have served the cupcakes.
I wouldn't have told my son that "no one will ever know it happened". To me that's sort of both role
modeling and endorsing lying in one fell swoop.

What I would have done is told my son it was okay, that sometimes accidents happen. I'd tell him it sucks
that he doesn't have enough for everyone, especially since he worked so hard on them, but there were
still enough for him to share with the neighbor kids after school, or as an extra dessert the next day. Id
give him a big hug, walk him in to class, explain what happened to the teacher and ask if there was
enough time for me to run to the grocery store so that I could pick up some cupcakes or cookies for him
yo share with the class.
Then I'd find the best, ready made cupcakes I could find and eat the cost

My husband would probably eat the floor-cakes, but I don't think he'd have served them either.

I know it was tried once already to total disregard, but this thread can now officially be closed!

WOOT WOOT!

<11 is such an odd number. We should make this an even dozen pages...>

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Posted: 8/6/2013 3:06:48 PM
I know it was tried once already to total disregard, but this thread can now officially be closed!

WOOT WOOT!

<11 is such an odd number. We should make this an even dozen pages...>

I'm confused ... is it closed, or are we going to 12 pages?

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Posted: 8/6/2013 3:09:18 PM

I say we keep this thread going until the kid's next birthday.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 3:10:11 PM
Arguing is healthy, fun, and absolutely necessary for life

Now I know FOR SURE this is Lauren. No one else can create an argument out of nothing like she can.

Kelpea
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Posted: 8/6/2013 3:11:55 PM
bump

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Posted: 8/6/2013 3:14:21 PM

Same thing.

IleneScraps
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Posted: 8/6/2013 3:18:59 PM
I guess that answers my question

I-95
anyway!

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Posted: 8/6/2013 3:38:14 PM
^^^and on that note we should hold hands, sing Kumbaya as the lights dim, and we close this thread^^^

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Posted: 8/6/2013 6:57:38 PM
lima,

I didn't care either way about sidewalk cupcakes (just not able to raise a sufficient amount of outrage for
either side of the argument)

but I did stick with this thread (mostly) and read your posts. I think you came into the NSBR prepared to
show us gals how the world works and that once you argued your position-the brilliance of your
argument would be so compelling that we's all clap our virtual hands in delight of your "perspective" and
"insights" and any disagreements would be lost in fear of standing up in the face of your inpenetrable
argument

thing is, many of the folks here aren't mental midgets- waiting for the voice of wisdom to edumacate us
simple folk. we all have opinions, and your over the top selling of yours really smacks of desperation.
your subsequent "surprise" at the response your condescending and bitchy observations have gotten
shows someone who doesnt have a lot of practice at introspection or two way discourse.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 7:16:57 PM
I just am posting b/c I logged in for the first time in years for this post. Haikus and gifts (whoops shouldnt
that be gifs), tiaras, germaphobes, spreadsheets, royalty, anarchy, elitists, Prince,Hoff and pea tiers. This
has to be Shakespeare circa 2013. And after 6 years, this should put me near 1000 posts.

Blue Tulip, your what dafuq meme literally made me log in! Loved it

eta: This was my 1000th post. No one will notice it in this vortex madhouse though.
2cd eta**************Please Let Me Kill This Thread*****************

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Posted: 8/6/2013 8:00:52 PM
Sorry zzooter, the bar is still open, but congratulations on your thousandth post.

not2peased - spot-on observation.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 8:05:17 PM
Jo Mama my new frenemy. You totally stole my thunder.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 8:29:02 PM
thread closure

SMG in AZ
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Posted: 8/6/2013 8:54:31 PM
Wait! I wanted to thank this thread for not only Nathan Fillion but also Jason Bateman.

That is all.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 9:28:06 PM
I had to see how a thread about cupcakes could go to 12 pages. I skim read the whole thing.

First, I would not have served the cupcakes because I would be paranoid that the wrong kid ate one of
the sidewalk cupcakes and got ill or his over protective mother found out he ate a sidewalk cupcake and
then I would have to deal with that. I only send those really bad, individually wrapped Little Debbie treats
to school. Cheap and safe.
Avoided cupcake
And read. WTF?

This perfectly summed it up for me, and I love haiku.

I Sock!

Welcome limpea2. Way to liven up the place.

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Posted: 8/6/2013 10:28:16 PM
Just trying to be the tread killer

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Posted: 8/7/2013 12:43:25 AM
PSA: If you put Lima on ignore this thread is, like, two pages.

TheOtherMeg
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PSA: If you put Lima on ignore this thread is, like, two pages.

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Posted: 8/7/2013 1:28:10 AM
This thread is......

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Posted: 8/7/2013 1:55:53 AM

Castle

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Posted: 8/7/2013 2:19:35 AM
not2peased - spot-on observation.

I'll second that.

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Posted: 8/7/2013 2:42:56 AM
Hey, I'm Queen Thread Killer (for you newbies, I earned that title in the 100 page thread). No one can
take my place until I die.

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Posted: 8/7/2013 3:27:05 AM
Sigh. Jason Bateman could read me a bedtime story anytime. Good thread.

smurfie
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Posted: 8/7/2013 6:06:43 AM
havent there been gazillions of threads where "this thread is now closed" announcements started
another 100 pages worth of biatching, hilarity, animosity and friendly banter???

on topic... im totally surprised that an experienced pea would seriously come to peadom and ask such a
question and expect anything but what she got.... ill keep my personal view on this personal (that is NOT
to say i endorse the op's actions in any way shape or form)

congrats on 1000 posts

ps have we got a sidewalk cupcake gate button yet??

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Posted: 8/7/2013 6:14:38 AM
on topic... im totally surprised that an experienced would seriously come to peadom and ask such a
question and expect anything but what she got....
What she got was most peas agreeing that they would do the same thing. Having been a pea for 10 years,
I found that totally unexpected.

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Posted: 8/7/2013 8:16:59 AM
lol i suppose there is that dalai mama on the positive.. the spreadsheet will now contain all pro
sidewalk cupcake peas

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Posted: 8/7/2013 9:45:36 AM
I utilized the Ignore This User button (because honestly, she's going to go on and on until the cows come
home), and wow it is so peaceful in here now. I can hear the crickets.... bliss.

*ingrid*
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Posted: 8/7/2013 10:06:39 AM
Sigh. Jason Bateman could read me a bedtime story anytime.

Amen, sister. Amen.

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fleur
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Posted: 8/7/2013 6:23:17 PM
Reading your post, I am in utter disbelief at your statements. You start my telling us that the cakes were
dropped (sad event), you go on to say that the school is brand new with a smooth concrete walkway
!!!!!! YOU think that microbes etc., etc., etc., do not land on new
buildings..........AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! YOu then go on to say that it 'looks absolutely clean', no dirt,
no salt and that the cupcakes have hardened , so there's nothing sticking to the frosting'....UNBELIEVABLE
Mrs. ' I have got better eyes than a microscope'.

You then go on to take the cakes into the school and tell your son's teacher in front of him that the box
got a little bumped.........FOR GOODNESS SAKE WOMAN, you just taught your son to lie and let him know
that this was okay.

You close your post with the statement...."I don't regret it, and would feed the dropped cakes to my kids
without a second thought".,

You know what lady, that is your choice, but how dare make the choice for all the other Mothers in your
son's class that would not dream of feeding their sons/daughters food that had been on the floor.

Shame on you.

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Posted: 8/7/2013 6:29:14 PM
I did not realise that this post had reached 12 pages, I was just answering the post....oooopppps

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Posted: 8/7/2013 8:21:12 PM
Wouldn't most people just ignore a truly insane person's rants?

This how I know you are new.

The truly insane person's rantings ARE THE ONLY REASON I COME HERE AT ALL.

----

Ok no one is gonna believe me but I swear to STJ that I read this thread when it was ONE page, saw I had
nothing to add, and backed out.

then everyone came and had a party without me, and I am sad.

SMG in AZ
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Posted: 8/7/2013 9:00:03 PM
Ok no one is gonna believe me but I swear to STJ that I read this thread when it was ONE page, saw I had
nothing to add, and backed out.

then everyone came and had a party without me, and I am sad.
We're glad you're here now. Would you like a cupcake? They were made special.

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Posted: 8/7/2013 9:06:50 PM
We're glad you're here now. Would you like a cupcake? They were made special.

The little kids ate all the "special" ones. Let's get more, but this time from the store, pre-packaged.

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Posted: 8/7/2013 9:09:02 PM
making a choice like that for your own child is one thing but for others not a good idea.

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