I talked about this in the introduction and now I add more to it that he’s not an alim.

In the beginning, the afghan jihad which was the first Jihad in Afghanistan he went
there. He went to do Jihad according to the Shariah (Islamic legislation), his manhaj
was correct. The Ulema gave fatawa that the door to Jihad has been opened now go
there so people went away.

They did Jihad but that person was hanging around with such people who didn’t have
correct Manhaj. He had little knowledge and he got around such people who became
his friends who were against the truth and were upon the way of the Khawarij.
Whoever had any kind of contact with the leader was a kafir (disbeliever) this kind of
belief was present amongst them. So, slowly slowly living in that environment he
started thinking differently. The ulema, normally there’s an opposition that these
ulema first gave him permission to do it and now why do they stop him? Why is there
a difference now? Why did the ulema change their fatwa?
They changed it because the rulers told them to do so.

No, they didn’t change their fatwa because of the leaders. The fatwa was changed
when that man changed his own situation. When there was Jihad according to Shariah
(Islamic legislation) everyone said it’s Jihad. But when Jihad turned into terrorism it
wasn’t Jihad anymore. Therefore the fatwa of the ulema was changed. That’s why
they said this isn’t Jihad and this is going towards wrong path. Shaykh Ibn Baz
Rahimulah fatwa Volume 9 page 100 he said “I advice Misaree..” Misaree is the
person that fled from here and also has the khawarij belief and lives in a non-muslim
country. He’s spreading his fatawa from internet and different ways and he’s
spreading this poison in the ummah.

He is always blaming the rulers in his fatwa and he repeatedly gives the same fatwa
that they’re kaafir. So the Shaykh adviced him by taking his name Misaree and also
advised Bin Ladin that they paths you’re walking upon is a wrong path so repent to
Allah and come on the straight path. This fatwa is also available today. Shaykh Saalih
Ale Shaykh Hafidulah is alive today and they say his manhaj is wrong. Shaykh
Muqbil ibn Waadie they call him fitnah in the ummah. These are the ulema of the
ummah, the muadith of the ummah. If their words aren’t of trustworthy to them then
we can’t say anything.

Today that is happening in the ummah who cultivated this seed? Today people’s lives,
wealth isn’t safe. Anywhere there’s a bomb blast so many innocent people get killed
including children. And how many buildings fall down just because of a single bomb
blast. Recently, you must’ve witnessed the bomb blast that happened in Lahore
(Pakistan). They say it’s a different and political problem but I said to them no matter
what the problem is where did this ideology come from? Who planted the seed in this
ummah? It wasn’t 10 years ago like this or 20 years ago?

Where did this ideology come from that a Muslim straps himself with explosives goes
out and blows them up and many innocent lives are lost in result of this but the person
doesn’t care that if it’s a Muslim that is dying or a non-Muslim. Who showed this
path to the ummah? Who opened the door to this evil? We should contemplate upon
ourselves. Why do we go out to blame others?
We should look at whether was there any fault in this? Is our Manhaj correct? Is our
path correct? Are the people just accusing us? If our way is correct then the people are
at fault but if there’s anything wrong with our way we should correct it. Doesn’t a
man make mistake?

The second thing that they say is “fine he (osama bin ladin) made a mistake. Doesn’t
a man make mistakes? Allah forgives mistakes, so why are you always after him and
saying his name.”

Mistake is that which happens once and the second time it’s corrected. From many
years this manhaj which is spreading in the ummah is increasing and it hasn’t
decreased. This isn’t a mistake but this spreading of manhaj is being done
deliberately. They think it’s the truth that’s why they’re spreading it. There’s a
difference between the two.

And there’s also a misconception that “Ok fine we accept that this manhaj is
increasing but he (Osama Bin Ladin) has also done some good work. He’s regular in
prayers, he does good work like giving charity and building masajid. He has given
money to the mujahideen. So he’s done some good work and now if he has made
some mistakes then why are you making a big deal out of it.”

So its my request that whatever good deeds he’s done, the Shariah has given us a
scale which is the Qu’ran and sunnah and if his good deeds are according to them then
that is the truth but if it’s against the Qu’ran and Sunnah then the deeds aren’t
righteous.

And the proof for this is in Sahih Bukhari there’s numerous ahaadeeth giving the
examples (characteristics) of the khawarij. Do you think the Khawarij weren’t
religious people? Did they used to play music, commit zina or take Riba? They had
the aqeedah the one who takes riba is a kaffir. The one who lies is a kaffir. The
fornicator is a kaffir. That’s how much they used to fear the sins.

Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi Wassalam said about these people infront of the Sahaba
and tribe leaders“You’ll compare your Salah with their Salah and you will look down
upon it”

“They will come and have a lot of love for the deen and from their faces they’ll look
proper Momin (believers), they’ll be regular in prayers, fasting, reading Qu’ran but
when you’ll see them praying you’ll see your salah is nothing compared to them.”

“They’ll read Qu’ran but it wouldn’t pass their throat” meaning they will read a lot of
Qu’ran but they will understand little.

And how can they understand whilst it is stuck in their throat? If it’ll go beyond their
throat and in their hearts then that’s how they’ll understand it.

“They’ll leave this religion as an arrow passes from the bow” SubhanAllah.
Look at the seerah (biography) of Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi Wassalam he never
used any bad words but when he did use it he used it for these people. “They’ll be the
dogs of the hellfire” and this has come to us by a narration in Sahih Bukhari.

So what is the reason? (Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi Wassalam used that word for
them)
They pray and do good deeds but because of the killings that’ll take in this ummah
(reason) from past until now Allah Ta’ala have mercy upon us and only he knows
how much its going to happen more.

Muslims are being killed in masses and they did the same thing (in past), against who
did they fight? The leaders of the awliya …who killed Ali Ibn Abee Talib
Radiyalahanhu? A Jew, Christian or a polytheist? But a Muslim who reads the
kalimah(shahadah) did it. And why did he kill him because that person believed that
Ali Radiyalahanhu was a wall between him and the jannah.

When this wall will fall I will go to Jannah. He wanted to go jannah by killing a
sahabi.

Do you think he was jahil (ignorant?) Was he someone like a Jew or Christian just
walking on the streets?

He had knowledge but he got influenced by them (khawarij) and he did it. Ali
Radiyalahanhuma chose the same person during his time in Khilafah for sending him
to Egypt to call people to Allah.

Was he wrong in choosing him? Did he choose a mubtadi? No, but when he was in an
environment of corruption he also got influenced by living in it.

When ulema stopped them they didn’t listen. The only had one way of thinking and
continued to think that way and what was the result of all this? They killed Ali ibn
Abi Talib Radiyalahanhuma.

And when they used to punish that person (who killed Ali Radiyalahanhuma) he said
“You can cut off any part of my body but I’ve one request that don’t cut my tongue
off till death reaches me because I can’t live a moment without doing Dhikr of Allah.”

The others are busy punishing him and he’s busy doing dhikr, so who is this guy? A
Jew or a Christian but no rather he’s a Muslim whose doing Dhikr of Allah.

So you shouldn’t look at good deeds by appearant but rather weigh them according to
the Qu’ran and Sunnah. By these “good deeds” by which Muslims are being killed in
masses are not good deeds my brothers.

When Abdulah Ibn Abbas Radiyalahanhuma went to debate the Khawarij who was
sent on behalf of Ali Ibn Talib Radiyalahunhuma he said “When I reached there, I
saw a very strange picture (scene) in front of me. Some people are standing crying, in
sujood crying, some are reading Qu’ran and when I shook hands with them it was as
if it was animals (I didn’t understand what he said here). There hands were very hard
because of their durations in sujood (prostration) and Ibadah (worshipping).”
So you can see they used to spend long time in worshipping and doing good deeds but
do you see from any narration that Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi Wassalam said that
“Poor them they will be good but this will be their mistakes.” Did he say this?

When there’s wrong he explained it that way and he didn’t explain the good in them.
Today we say the same thing that whatever good deeds they’ve done that’s with them
and we don’t deny it but the bad deeds they’ve done it and because of that their good
deeds we say to Allah is their deeds.

So why should we spread this fitnah in the ummah, why should we hide from the
ummah that ok don’t worry they’ve done some bads but they’ve done good deeds as
well.

Are their bad deeds only small in numbers?

Muslims are being killed in masses and there’s no peace is this a small issue?

The worshipping I’ve done is for me and I’ve done it for Lord. And if because of me
Muslims are being killed in masses then I will have to answer for it. My good deeds
are of no use for this ummah. My deeds are for me isn’t it? How will the ummah
benefit from my deeds?

So if I can’t bring any good in this ummah by my deeds similarly I shouldn’t try to
bring any harm in this ummah.

And what can be a bigger harm that this great Jihad which is a part of Shariah
(Islamic legislation) turns into Terrorism?

We make Dua to Allah that He allows us to gain beneficial knowledge and He makes
us steadfast upon the path of Ahle Sunnah and He saves us and the whole ummah
from Shirk and Biddah and the newly invented matters.

Subhana Rabika Izzati Ama yasifun wasalamo alil Mursaleen walhomdililahi rabil
alameen.

Peace and Blessings upon Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi Wassalam.

Then a brother stood up from the crowd and started asking some questions regarding
Abu Hamza. So the brother replied:

“First thing, why has the Government of Britain given asylum to such a person who
gives such fatawa? Those who live in England know that it’s in their legislation if a
person claims for asylum they give refuge to that person. There are numerous
examples for this and one of them is of Sulman Rushdie who lives there and the
government spends £7,000 annually on him. All this money comes from the
government and this is their legislation. This is a very strange matter and Sulman
Rushdie in his book didn’t only insult Prophet Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi
Wassalam, Sahaba Radiyalahanhuma, Mothers of the believers but he called the
Queen of England bitch. In the same book and these very same people give him
refuge and spending money on him. So he also swore at them and I apologise for
using that word but it was to make clear what he said about them.

It’s their legislation to give refuge, their headache, I can’t change their legislation
even though they keep saying they are against terrorism and they themselves have
given refuge.

Secondly, the reason why people turn to him to take fatwa is because he did Jihad and
his hands are cut off. I think they call him Mr. Hook there. You would’ve seen in the
pictures his one hand is cut off and he has a hook there instead. So this is the reason
people turn to him to take fatwa because he has been in the field of where Jihad took
place.

Those who are mujahideen don’t take fatwa from him this is a misconception. This
isn’t the only group in existence he has many groups. I’m just giving you an example
that people do take fatwa from him but there are many groups. I don’t have the time to
explain each of them but I’m just giving you an example.

And these people who make certain people their scholars aren’t any Scholars of this
ummah from whom they take fatwa. Those well known Ulema there’s none of them
with these people.

What was the second thing you wanted to know brother? (The brother then ask him
question about Osama Bin Ladin)

Please tell me if someone whose hiding somewhere in mountains or we don’t know

where, how can we take fatwa from him? I’m asking you, how will you take fatwa
from him.

Someone comes in front of you on the media and apart from that we don’t know
where he’s hiding. There are some people some who exist with such way of thinking
and they take fatwa. Therefore I said that when the well known Ulema of this ummah
didn’t support them, they changed their ways and started asking for fatwa from those
people. They just want fatwa it’s like a person he wants to hear Yes and he can’t bear
to hear No. If they hear No they will change their ways.

When they get Yes from somewhere they make that person their Alim (scholar). Now
this is their problem those who’ve given them refuge and people who take fatwa from
them.

Why don’t they go to the known scholars? When Shaykh Ibn Baz rahimulah said this
isn’t Jihad but terrorism they accused of “government scholar” and that he’s sold out.
When Shaykh Allamah Albany Rahimulah gave fatwa from Jordan that this isn’t
Jihad but terrorism and that suicide bombings have no place in Islam they accused
him of Murji. SubhanAllah.

So that one is a government scholar, sold out and Shaykh Uthaymeen Rahimulah is
the same and that this other scholar is a murji. So tell me which other scholar is left?
Then who are the ulema please tell me?
They take fatwa from different people and some who reside here (KSA) but none of
them are the well known ulema.

Today some people are waking up even though it might be late but they’re coming to
realise that they were wrong. These people have repented. They tell that they were
lied to that this is the path of heaven and that you do bomb blasts and they’re 70
virgins waiting for you. They say were doing this for the 70 virgins and we used to
think that this is the truth and the path to heaven.

But when we listened to the Ulema and we come out from that environment and
listened to the other side and the evidences and thought about it. We came to realise
what is it we were about to do and were doing?

I swear by Allah I can never forget this scene that I saw on the TV few months back
that there was a well here which they planning to destroy. It was the biggest well of
oil here in Saudi near the area of Damam.

There were about 4-5 youth all with beards and had tears in their eyes and they
repented. They showed how they were planning to blow it up. They said we heard
from a scientist that if this took place then as far as 20KM wherever the smoke
reached even the cockroach wouldn’t have survived it. The cockroach would’ve died,
that’s how much the poison was.

So the youth said when they heard this their legs started shaking because of this and
thought about what we were about to do. What kind of Jihad is this that even a
cockroach wouldn’t have survived or any other animal that would’ve passed from the
sky would’ve died.

What were we about to do? So they repented and their interviews came on the telly
and I swear by Allah they couldn’t bring their words to speak on their mouth. I saw
this with my own eyes. They were saying everything straight from their hearts.

So people have come to the truth when they’ve come to realise about it but there are
some problems. People also have desires and remember I gave you an example of an
old lady Fatih radiyalahanha who had a permissible desire but she controlled it on one
command by Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi Wassalam.

These lives we can’t finish them to obey Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi Wassalam and
Allah Subhanhu Ta’ala and therefore its important to reflect.

Subhankalahuma wa bihamdika wastagfuruka wa atubu alaik.”