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David S. Goetz
Senior Counsel
Yours truly,
The Military Police Complaints Commission has redacted from thesematerials certain sensitive
information which it has deemed to beirrelevant to these proceedings. Except for two pages of
e-mail communication containing information subject to deliberative secrecy and/or solicitor-
client privilege (and so marked), all redactions relate to theprotection of privacy interests under
thePrivacy Act.
In accordance with therequest by theapplicant, please find enclosed with this letter, acertified
copy of therecord in theaforementioned matter pursuant to Rule318 of theFederal Courts
Rules.
Re: Bees, Bobbie Garnet v. Attorney General of Canada
Federal Court No. T-317-13
Mr. Bobbie Garnet Bees
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SENT BY MESSENGER
March 11, 2010
Military Police
Complaints
Commission
Commission d'examen
des plaintes concernant
la police militaire
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Paralegal/Registry Officer of the
Military Police Complaints Commission
Dated at Ottawa, Ontario, thisllth day of March, 2013.
I further certify that, subject to the aforementioned redactions, the enclosed materials are true and
complete copies of the originals.
I, the undersigned, ChantaleCy r, Paralegal/Registry Officer of the Military Police Complaints
Commission (hereinafter the "the tribunal"), do hereby certify that the materials enclosed
herewith and listed in the attached index constitute, subject to the indicated redactions of
privileged and unnecessary personal information, thematerial relevant to this application for
judicial review in the possession of the tribunal.
CERTIFICATE PURSUANT TO RULE 318
Respondent
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CANADA
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Applicant
BOBBIE GARNET BEES
BETWEEN:
FEDERAL COURT
Court File Nol. T-317-13
18-01-13 Email fromD.GoetztoRegistry.Mr.Muir and J. Dunbar - summary of telephone
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24-07-12 Email from P. Cicalo - Email from Mr. Bees
21-07-12 Email from R. Cleroux - Email from Mr. Bees
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Yours truly,
Itrust that this letter will be of assistance to youin thepreparation of your Final Report.
Should youhave any questions, do not hesitate to contact Lieutenant-Colonel R, Delaney
at 613-949-5111.
Following areview of your Interim Report andpursuant to sections 250.49 and 250.51of
theNDA, asthe Commission found that thecomplaint against PO I Morris, Sgt Cyr and
MCp}Hancock was not substantiated andoffered no recommendations, this letter isto
advise you that noNotice of Action will be submitted as Iagree with theCommission's
findings.
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Files: MPCC 2011-045 &2011-054
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INTERIM REPORT
Following aReview Pursuant to
Section 250.31 of theNational Defence Act, of a
Conduct Complaint by Mr. B
Regarding theConduct of
POI Steven Morris, Sgt Christian Cyr and MCpl Robert Hancock, of the
Canadian Forces National Investigation Service Western Region
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Analysis & Findings 5
Deputy Commander CF MP Group's Dispositionof theComplaint 4
Methodology of theComplaints Commission's Review 4
Mr. 8's Conduct Complaints 3
Factual Background totheComplaint 2
Synopsis 1
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S. With respect to thesecond complaint, regarding thefailure of therelevant MPs in
1980 to involve local civilian police to investigate sexual assaults involving civilians on
4. The Commission found all thecomplainant's allegations inhis first complaint to
be unsubstantiated.
3. TheCommission's review revealed theCFNIS members infact went to
considerable lengths, given thecircumstances of the then over 3D-year old case, topursue
thecomplainant's criminal allegations. While charges werenot ultimately laid against
thealleged perpetrator, theMPs did attempt tointerview key relevant witnesses andmade
various efforts to locate other possible witnesses. Intheend, theMPs produced aCrown
brief which they referred to the local prosecutor's office for alegal review. Moreover, in
their brief to theprosecutor, theMPs expressed theconclusion that their investigation
revealed evidence to support charges. However, the prosecutor in thecase recommended
against charges due toinherent weaknesses intheavailable evidence.
1) that theCFNIS members conducted an incomplete investigation;
2) that this incompleteness was deliberate onthepart of theMPs and
intended toshield DND frompossible civil liability arising from
thecomplainant's abuse; and
3) that theCFNIS did not havejurisdiction toinvestigate inthefirst
place because, at the time of thealleged offences:
a) theCFNIS did not exist, and
b) theCF did not havejurisdiction toprosecute offences of
sexual assault committed within Canada.
2. In respect of thefirst complaint, thecomplainant alleged:
1. Thecomplainant made two separate but related MP conduct complaints regarding
theactions of MPs inrespect of his alleged sexual abuseonamilitary base inCanada
when hewas achild in 197880. Thefirst complaint regards theconduct of aCanadian
Forces National Investigation Service (CFNIS) investigation into thecomplainant's
historical sexual abuse allegations. The second complaint pertains totheconduct of MP
members on thebase at thetimeof theoffences inquestion.
I. Synopsis
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10. The CFNIS investigation lasted fromMarch to October 2011.
9. During the investigation, anumber of MP personnel transfers took place,
however, thekey participants in theconduct of theinvestigation during thecritical phases
were Master Corporal (MCpl) Robert Hancock (lead investigator), Sergeant (Sgt)
Christian Cyr (investigator) and Petty Officer lSI Class (POI) Steven Morris (Case
Manager).
8. On March 3, 2011, Mr. B notified theEdmonton Police Service (EPS) regarding
these incidents. EPS contacted theCanadian Forces National Investigation Service
(CFNIS); it was mutually decided that theCFNIS hadjurisdiction to investigate, as the
alleged offences would haveoccurred onmilitary property. CFNIS Western Region
(CFNIS WR) assumed responsibility for the investigation.
7. Mr. B recalls aparticularly notable episode when Mr. S attempted tosodomize
himinMr. S's bedroom. According to Mr. B, Mr. S's sister entered theroom
interrupting and witnessing theassault. Shethen left andcontacted other youths who
gathered outside the home andyelled taunts at Mr. B, whilehewas still in Mr. S's
bedroom. According to Mr. B, this was also thelast time hewas abused by Mr. S.
6. Thecomplainant, Mr. B, alleges heand his younger brother were sexually abused
on anumber of occasions from1978-1980 by his babysitter, Mr. S, intheprivate married
quarters (PMOs) at CFB Namao (now part of CFB Edmonton). During the relevant time
periods, Mr. B would havebeen between five and eight years old; while Mr. S would
havebeen between twelve andfifteen years of age.
II. Factual Background to theComplaint
thebase, theCommission determined it could not address this complaint asit related to
MP conduct which occurred prior to thecoming into force of theCommission's enabling
legislation in 1999.
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16. In another letter (to theCommission Chair) dated March 5, 2012, Mr. B also
raised concerns about the legality of theCFNIS having takenjurisdiction over his
historical sexual assault complaint. These concerns were raised inlight of his
understanding that theCFNIS was only established in 1996andthat theCF did not have
jurisdiction over sexual assault cases involving civilians at thetime of thealleged
offences against him. Asthis allegation related to thesame CFNIS investigation and
subject members as per Mr. B's November 9,2011 complaint, theCommission decided
to treat this issue as athird allegation to theoriginal complaint (file MPCC 2011-045)
2) Only conducted a"soft" investigation inorder tohelp insulate the
Department of National Defence fromcivil liability.
15. Inafurther letter dated December 15,2011, received December zs", Mr. B
complained about the failure of military police in 1980to refer "civilian oncivilian"
sexual assault cases to local civilian lawenforcement authorities (file MPCC 2011-054).
1) Failed to conduct acomplete investigation of his historical allegation of
child sexual abuseby Mr. S; and
14. Mr. B's allegations inthis complaint (file MPCC 2011-045) were that the MPs in
question:
13. On November 9, 2011, Mr. B filed his conduct complaint against POI Steven
Morris, Sgt Christian Cyr andMCpl Robert Hancock with theMilitary Police Complaints
Commission (the Commission).
III. Mr. D'sConduct Complaints
12. Theprosecutor's officereviewed thematerial andadvised, onNovember 1,2011,
that the available evidence was insufficient to adequately support theprosecution of Mr.
S in respect of theevents inquestion. CFNIS WR notified thecomplainant, Mr. B, of
this decision by letter dated November 7, 2011.
11. A "Pre-charge Screening Report" was compiled by theCFNIS WR investigative
teamand referred to theAlberta Crown Attorney's officeat Morinville on October 19,
2011.
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24. The Commission Member, assigned legal counsel andlead investigator reviewed
thematerial provided by both theDeputy Commander andthecomplainant. Based on
23. On March 30, 2012, theCommission Chair delegated theconduct of this
complaint review toCommission Member Hugh Muir.
22. In accordance with therequirements of NDA paragraph 250,31(2)(b), the
Commission sought disclosure fromtheCFPM of all relevant information and materials
in the possession of theMPs. Primary disclosure of materials was received by the
Commission onMarch 2, 2012. Further disclosure items wereprovided on March 8and
October 16, 2012.
V. Methodology of theComplaints Commission's Review
21. Mr. B requested areview of his complaint by theCommission inaletter dated
J anuary 28, 2012, received February 2nd
20. It was further noted (with respect to thecomplaint infileMPCC 2011-054) the
conduct of MPs fromthe 1980s could not beassessed under theMilitary Police
Professional Code of Conduct since theCode only came into force in 1999.
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19. Inaletter dated J anuary 18,2012, theDeputy Commander issued his response to
thecomplaints. The Deputy Commander concluded (in respect of thecomplaint in file
MPCC 2011-045) that theMPs in question acted within thescopeof their duties and
conducted asthorough an investigation aswas possible in thecircumstances.
18. The Canadian Forces Provost Marshal's (CFPM's) delegate for dealing with MP
conduct complaints in thefirst instance istheDeputy Commander CF MP Group (Deputy
Commander). TheDeputy Commander reviewed Mr. B's complaints, as well as the
relevant MP investigation file.
IV. Deputy Commander CF MP Group's Dispositionof theComplaint
17. In accordance with section 250.26 of theNational Defence Act (NDA), the
Commission referred thecomplaint to theCanadian Forces Provost Marshal (CFPM) for
initial review andaction asdeemed necessary,
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Checked archived military records, contacted area schools through theEPS
School Resource Office, andvisited schools formerly attended by Mr. S, in
order to identify possible witnesses;
Searched records at area schools and interviewed ateacher toconfirm Mr.
S's and Mr. B's attendance at the relevant schools at therelevant times and
toobtain acontemporary picture of Mr. S for identification purposes;
27. The Commission's review of therelevant materials, particularly, the
contents of theMP investigative file (GO #2011-5754), aswell asits interviews
with thesubject MP members, indicate that thefollowing investigative steps were
taken by CFNIS WR inrespect of Mr. B' s allegations against Mr. S.
a) Allegation 1: Incomplete Investigation
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VI. Analysis &Findings
26. An investigation report was submitted for review by Commission legal counsel
and theCommission Member onOctober 17, 2012, immediately following receipt of the
final disclosure itemfromtheCFPM onOctober 16, 2012. Theinvestigation report was
approved by theCommission Member onOctober 23,2012.
25. Following approval of theinvestigation plan, asecond investigator was assigned
andthe investigators proceeded to arrange and conduct witness interviews. The
Commission investigators conducted interviews with thefollowing witnesses between
J uly 19andJ uly 31, 2012:
1) Mr. B(complainant);
2) POI Steven Morris (subject);
3) Sgt Christian Cyr (subject);
4) MCpl Robert Hancock (subject).
this material, thelead investigator prepared an investigation plan. This plan was
reviewed by thelegal counsel andtheCommission Member. Itwas approved by the
Member onJ une 7, 2012.
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31. The main area where thecomplainant felt that more could havebeen done by the
MPs was in trying toidentify and obtain statements fromtheindividuals who healleges
were gathered outside theS residence shouting taunts to Mr. B whilehe was inMr. S's
30. Most significantly, Mr. S's sister, who, according to thecomplainant, witnessed
part of thefinal incident of sexual assault on himby Mr. S (an act of attempted anal
intercourse in Mr. S's bedroom), informed the MPs that she hadno recollection of such
anincident and, furthermore, was certain that shewould recall such anevent.
29. Mr. B's father indicated tothe MPs that hewas unaware of any such incidents
involving his sons and Mr. S.
28. For his part, Mr. B's brother recalled to theMPs asingle incident of asexual
nature involving Mr. Swhich occurred when he (Mr. B's brother) wasabout six years
old. However, he indicated to MP investigators that hedid not recall his older brother,
Mr. B, being present, nor did heever discuss theincident with him.
Conducted aCPIC search on Mr. Sto determine hispast interactions with
police and any criminal record; this search revealed past convictions for
sexual offence fromthe1980s and 1990s, as well for theft andassault;
Contacted thepublic library, and media outlets directly, with aview to
locating contemporary media coverage of the 1980firewhich destroyed Mr.
S's family's PMQ;
Searched for andobtained records froman investigation of a1980 fire at
Mr. S's residence onthebase;
Searched for information andrecords pertaining to Mr. S's sexual abuse by
aformer (nowdeceased) military chaplain onthebase- thechaplain was in
fact court martialed, convicted and sentenced to four years imprisonment
(though heended upserving only 10months) for molesting Mr. S;
Interviewed thecomplainant, Mr. B;
Interviewed thecomplainant's brother;
Interviewed thecomplainant's father;
Identified, located and interviewed Mr. S's sister;
Located andattempted to interview Mr. S's father, who declined to
cooperate with theinvestigation, indicating only that his son was illasa
result of his abuse by theformer military chaplain; and
Located and attempted to interview Mr. S, who declined to beinterviewed.
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36. The only basis for this allegation cited by thecomplainant was the fact that the
CFNIS ispart of thesame federal department (DND) which could becivilly liable in the
35. For same reasons as noted above, the suggestion that theMPs conducted a"soft"
investigation cannot be supported.
b) Allegation 2: Investigation Intended to Shield DND from Liability
Finding #1:
The Commission finds thecomplainant's allegationthat thesubject MP members
fromCFNIS WR conducted an incomplete investigation in respect of the
complainant's historical childsexual abuse allegations against Mr. Sis
NOT SUBSTANTIATED.
34. To be sure, theCommission does not doubt thesincerity of thecomplainant's
criminal allegations against Mr. S. However, it isnonetheless apparent in the
Commission's opinion that, in light of the investigative steps taking andconsidering all
the relevant evidence, thesubject MPs took all reasonable investigative steps in respect of
thecomplainant's criminal allegations. Indeed, intheCommission's view, theefforts put
into this investigation by then CFNIS WR members, and thetreatment of the
complainant, were commendable and reflect well on theMPs.
33. The Crown prosecutor determined theevidence simply was not adequate to offer
areasonable prospect of conviction (given thecriminal law standard of proof beyond a
reasonable doubt). As aresult, theprosecutor recommended against thelaying of charges
against Mr. S, and theMPs acted on this advice, as police typically do in this situation.
32. Yet, despite these problems with theevidence, on October 18,2011, theMPs
prepared and submitted abrief to theRegional Crown Prosecutor seeking alegal review
of the investigation fileto see ifthere was asufficient basis to lay charges against Mr. S.
Furthermore, in seeking this legal review, theMPs indicated their conclusion that the
investigation supported theelements of an offence under section 156of theCriminal
Code (1980) ("indecent assault on amale").
bedroom. However, Mr. B himself was unable to provide theMPs with any names; and,
as noted above, Mr. S's sister had no recollection of the incident.
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41. The complainant questions thelegality of theCFNIS WR's assumption of
jurisdiction to investigate his criminal complaint against Mr. S inrespect of his historical
sexual abuse allegations against Mr. S. On this point, thecomplainant notes, as the
CFNIS was only created in 1996, andthat theCF did not havejurisdiction to prosecute
theoffence of sexual assault at thetime of the alleged crimes (1978-80), theCFNIS did
not havejurisdiction inthematter and should have referred thecase to acivilian police
service, such as theEPS or RCMP.
c) Allegation 3: Lack of CFNIS J urisdiction/Failure toRefer Case to
Civilian Police
TheCommission finds thecomplainant's allegation that thesubject MP members
fromCFNIS WR conducted a"soft" investigation of hishistorical childsexual
abuse allegations against Mr. S, withaviewto shielding theDepartment of National
Defencefromany related civil liability, isNOT SUBSTANTIATED.
Finding #2:
40. Third, all three subject MPs adamantly deny any attempt or suggestion to conduct
a"soft" investigation. Moreover, theMPs' evidence onthis point issupported by the
lack of any such thinking or communication recorded inthefile, aswell as theextent of
theinvestigative efforts undertaken in this case, as outlined inthepreceding section,
including the CFNIS WR's conclusion (reported to theCrown prosecutor) that there was
evidence to support criminal charges.
39. Second, to the Commission's knowledge, no lawsuit has beenlaunched against
DND with respect to thecomplainant's historical sexual abuse.
38. First, since Mr. S is, and was at all material times, acivilian, thepath to
establishing DND liability would hardly be clear cut.
37. However, anumber of factors militate against thenotion that thesubject MPs
sought to shield DND frompotential liability.
event of asuccessful lawsuit arising out of the complainant's abusein 1978-80. The
complainant considers this tobeasignificant conflict of interest.
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TheCommission finds thecomplainant's allegation that theCFNIS should not have
assumedjurisdiction toinvestigate his historical childsexual abuse allegations
against Mr. SisNOT SUBSTANTIATED.
Finding #3:
46. Finally, thejurisdictional issue was discussed at theoutset between CFNIS WR
and thelocal civilian police and it was agreed theCFNIS would assume responsibility.
45. Itis also well established that policing jurisdiction does not follow prosecutorial
jurisdiction. Because they are"peace officers" under theCriminal Code, theMPs on
bases throughout Canada routinely investigate andlay charges incases which go before
thelocal provincial prosecution authorities and theprovincial courts.
44. Moreover, it is important todistinguish between prosecutorial jurisdiction and
policing jurisdiction. The former law which precluded military jurisdiction over sexual
assaults committed inCanadapertained only to prosecutorial jurisdiction. Inother
words, thelaw on this point only affected thejurisdiction of CF prosecutors (Office of the
J udge Advocate General) andservice tribunals. But this lawwould have made no
difference in this caseon theprosecution side inany event, given that thepotential
accused was acivilian.
43. The crimes alleged by thecomplainant against Mr. S occurred on DND property
and, as such, the CF military police were, andremain, thelawenforcement agency of
jurisdiction. The fact theCF has since altered its internal organization so as tocreate a
special unit for serious and sensitive cases is immaterial.
42. The complainant isquite correct theCFNIS didnot exist in 1978-80, and theCF
did not havejurisdiction toprosecute theoffence of sexual assault (when committed in
Canada) at that time. However, these factors arenot pertinent to thepropriety of the
CFNIS'sjurisdiction inthis case.
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48. Section 104of An Act to amend the National Defence Act and other Acts (Statutes
of Canada 1998, chapter 35) specifically precludes theapplication of theNDA Part IV
MP complaints process, including thejurisdiction of this Commission, toany complaints
regarding military police conduct which would have occurred prior to thecoming into
force of these legislative provisions (to wit, December 1, 1999). As such, the
Commission isunable to address this complaint.
47. Inthis separate, but obviously related complaint, thecomplainant raises concerns
regarding theconduct of theMPs at CFB Namao in 1980. Specifically, healleges the
local MP Detachment, which hebelieves must have been aware of his victimization by
Mr. S, wrongly neglected to involve or notify civilian police agencies of incidents of
sexual assault committed on thebase by Mr. S.
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The Commission finds the complainant's allegation that the CFNIS should not have
assumed jurisdiction toinvestigate his historical child sexual abuse allegations
against Mr. S is NOT SUBSTANTIATED.
Finding #3:
The Commission finds the complainant's allegation that the subject MP members
from CFNIS WR conducted a"soft" investigation of his historical child sexual
abuse allegations against Mr. S, with a view to shielding the Department of National
Defence from any related civil liability, is NOT SUBSTANTIATED.
Finding #2:
The Commission finds thecomplainant's allegation that the subject MP members
from CFNIS WR conducted an incomplete investigation in respect of the
complainant's historical child sexual abuse allegations against Mr. S is
NOT SUBSTANTIATED.
Finding #1:
VIII. Summary of Findings
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Inregards to the three complaints against the military police by Mr. Bobbie BEES
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
1. Summaryofthe Incident 1
2. MPCCAdministrative Involvement 2
3. Summaryof InvestigativeSteps 4
3.1. Reviewof GO#2011-5754 5
3.2. Reviewof PSGO#2011- 60 5
3.3. Reviewof DNDFirereport FileNo.767-2-E16 5
3.4. Policy Review 6
3.5. Legal Research 6
3.6. Other Details 6
4. Support DocumentationReceived 6
5. Analysis 7
5.1. Allegation #1: 7
Failureto completely investigatethe allegationof historical child sexual abuse 7
5.1.1. Documents/ Recordings of Interest.. 7
5.1.2. Interviewof Mr. Bobbie Bees (complainant) 7
5.1.3 Interviewof Sgt. Christian Cyr #5161 (Subject) 8
5.1.4 Interviewof P01 Steven Morris #4231 (Subject) 9
5.1.5 Interviewof MCpl Robert Hancock #5118 (Subject) 9
5.1.6 Investigator observations and remarks for Allegation #1 11
5.2. Allegation #2 12
Allegation that this complaint was givena"soft investigation" in order to ensurethat
the Minister of National Defencewas notsubjectedto alawsuit. 12
5.2.1. Documents/ Recordings of Interest 12
5.2.2. Interviewof Mr. Bobbie Bees 12
5.2.3. Interviewof Sgt. Christian Cyr #5161 12
5.2.4. Interviewof P01 Steven Morris #4231 13
5.2.5. Interviewof MCpl Robert Hancock #5118 13
5.2.6. Investigator observations and remarks 13
5.3. Allegation #3:Allegation that the Military Policedid not notifyoutside civilian
police agencies ofthe allegationof sexual assault 14
5.3.1. Documents/ Recordings of Interest 14
5.3.2. Investigator observations and remarks for Allegation#3 14
6. Investigator GeneralObservations andComments 15
7. Appendices 15
7.1. InterviewSummaries 16
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4Document 014 Pre-Charge Screening Package
The CFNIS provided the results of their investigation to the Morinville Prosecutor's Office.
The Prosecutor's Office reviewed the material and determined there was "a substantial lack
of evidence" and "would not recommend a prosecution". Mr. Bees was notified of this
decision.
A detailed "Pre-charge Screening Report,,[3][4] was generated and delivered to the Morinville
CrownAttorney's Office onthe 19th October 2011 by MCpl Hancock.
e) (Father of ,
f) Former schools that the subject attended were contacted directly and through the
Edmonton Police Service (EPS) School Resource Officers to ascertaina precise age
and perhaps a year book photofor identification purposes. A photowas located.
g) Prior Occurrence reports from 1978 -1980 concerning a fire at the -.
PMQ.(Notes are attached to GO#2011-5754 however the entire 800+ page
document is attached to MPCC2011-045file electronically)
assault))
A number of interviews were conducted bythe CFNIS Investigators including:
a) Mr. Bees (complainant)
b) I (father of the complainant)
c) (Brother of the complainant)
d) ( (Sister of the subject and alleged witness to an
During the investigation, a number of administrative transfers took place within the
Department of National Defence, some of which affected the investigators in this matter.
The constant, within the CFNIS was MCpl Robert Hancock. He had participated in the
original interview of Mr. Bees and was later reassigned to this file as the lead investigator
until its conclusion.
On March 3, 2011, Mr. Bees notified the Edmonton Police Service regarding incidents of
historic sexual abuse that occurred between 1978and 1980at CFB Namao. The Edmonton
Police contacted the CFNIS and it was decided that the CFNIS had jurisdiction to
investigate. "CFNIS Western Region (WR) assumed responsibility for this investigation and
MS Dumas was tasked to investigate."[1J MCpl Mitchell was also tasked (through WO Hart)
with contacting the RCMP to check RCMP Probe records. [2]
The complainant, Mr. Bobbie Bees, alleges he was sexually abused for a year and a half
from 1978-1980 by his babysitter at CFB Namao. Mr. Bees was 8
years old at the time, and his alleged aggressor was approximately 13
years of age.
This case history is based upondocumentation received.
1. Summary of the Incident
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2: Sgt. Christian Cyr {Investigator}
Canadian Forces Military Police Academy
Canadian Forces Base Borden
Borden ON LOM1CO
(NB: At the time of complaint Sgt. Cyr was MCpl with CFNIS WR
CFB Edmonton.)
2.7 Subject member(s): 1:P01 Steven Morris (Case Manager)
Canadian Forces National InvestigationService
Western Region Detachment
PO Box 10500Station Forces
Edmonton AB T5J 4J 5
2.6 Location - CFB Namao (Nowknown as CFB Edmonton.)
- 02 February2012 Date of complainant requestfor review:
(See appendix D)
- 18J anuary 2012: Date of final responseto the complainant -
(See appendix C)
- 17J anuary 2012: PS file completed- (See appendix B)
2.5 Datesof Interest:
2.4 Dateof Occurrence: - Between 1978- 1980
Vancouver B.C.
Mr. Bobbie Bees Complainant: 2 . 3
Request for Review(R) File Type: 2.2
2.1 Complaint Receivedat the MPCC 02 February 2012. (See appendixA)
2. MPCC Administrative Involvement
Mr. Bees contacted the MPCC in February, 2012 to express his dissatisfaction with the
disposition of his complaint bythe CF PMPS to request afurther review.
Mr. Bees contacted the MPCC in November, 2011 alleging the CFNIS failed to completely
investigate his allegations and that his complaint was given a soft investigation to prevent a
lawsuit against the Minister of National Defence. The MPCC forwarded the matter to the CF
Provost Marshal Professional Standards Unitfor review. Mr. Bees was notified of the results
of the reviewin J anuary, 2012.
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5 GO#2011-5754 Page: 32 of 461 (email fromMr.Werbicki to MCpl Hancock)
2.11.3Allegation #3: Allegation that the Military Police did not notify outside
civilian police agencies of the allegation of sexual assault.
2.11.2 Allegation #2: Allegation that this complaint was given a "soft
investigation" in order to ensure that the Minister of National Defencewas not subjectedto a
lawsuit.
2.11.1 Allegation '# 1: Failure to completely investigate the allegation of
historical child sexual abuse.
2.11 Scope of Investigation/Allegations:
2.10 Resource person(s):
J on Werbicki, Crown Attorney (Not interviewed)
Alberta J ustice
Edmonton Rural and Regional Response Office
Suite 1110OxfordTower
10235- 101Street
Edmonton AS
T5J 3E9
Mr. Werbicki supplied the final review of the CFNIS brief in this matter and determined that
criminal charges were not warranted. [5]
3: MCpl Robert Hancock (Lead Investigator)
Canadian Forces National Investigation Service
PO Box 10500 Station Forces
Edmonton AB T5J 4J 5
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Crown prosecutor, Mr. J . Werbicki, reviewed the file and noted that the incident witt
could be described as "sexual curiosity or experimentation". Given that r - did
not provide independent corroboration of the allegations, any prosecution would have to rely
The CFNIS concluded their investigation and on October 18, 2011, a Prosecution Brief was
provided to the Morinville, Alberta Crown Prosecutor's Office for review. The covering letter
sent with the brief indicated their investigation "supports the elements for an offence
punishable under section 156of the Criminal Code of Canada(1980)". (6J
During the investigation period there were a few administrative transfers and promotions
within the CFNIS WR office, including the promotion and transfer to CFB Borden of Sgt.
Christian Cyr. However, MCpl Hancock was one of the original investigators who
interviewed Mr. Bees and then was reassigned to this file as the lead investigator due to his
knowledge of the investigation from its inception.
declined to be interviewed,
who also didn't provide any new
CFNIS investigators contacted
although they were able to contact
information regarding his son.
CFNIS investigators identifier' ; sister as one was
spoken to and denied unequivocally having witnessed her brother assault Mr. Bees. She
acknowledged that her brother had issues as a childthat has affected his entire life.
CFNIS investigators attempted to locate the present whereabouts of possible witnesses
through archived military records, through contact with the EPS School Resource Officers
(SRO's) as we" as personally visiting schools formerly attended bythe subject
CFNIS investigators interviewed recalled a single incident of a sexual
nature involving that occurred when he was about six years old, but could not
remember if his older brother (Bobbie Bees) was present. He also advised the
CFNIS investigator that he had not discussed the matter with his brother, nor has he had
regular contact with himfor a number of years.
It is alleged that subsequent to witnessing her brother assault Mr. Bees --
sister then contacted a group of her friends who gathered outside the residence yelledand
taunted Mr. Bees while still in the 'MQ on the second floor in the bedroomof
Mr. Bees alleged he was
. Mr. Bees also
) on at least one
sister hadwitnessed her
CFNIS investigators interviewed Mr. Bees on March 31, 2011.
sexually abused on a number of occasions by his babysitter,
alleged that his brother, was sexually assaulted by
occasion. Mr. Bees indicated that on one occasion
brother sexually assault Mr. Bees in the residence.
Mr. Bees, formerly known as - . initially reported to the Edmonton Police Service
(EPS) information concerning sexual abuse that occurred between 1978 and 1980 at CFB
Namao. The complaint was originally submitted via the EPS web site email. It was
determined and agreed that the CFNIS hadjurisdiction to investigate.
3. Summaryof lnvestlqativeSteps
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7GO File#2011-5754, Page: 32 of 461
8GO #2011-69 Pages: 20- 24 inclusive, of 42
CFNIS investigators reviewed the archived files of this incident. No evidentiary information
discovered, relative to Mr. Bees complaint. Subsequent to the fire, the family was
relocated.
A gas leak at the residence was attended to by a serviceman who subsequently
went to the basement to deal with the situation at which time a fire broke out and the male
partydied as a result of injuries sustained.
Authored by: Capt. RH. Nye BFC 03 J uly 1980
This 892 page document outlines the fatal qas fire which occurred in the
residence onthe 23rd J une 1980at , Lancaster Park, Alberta.
3.3. Review of DND Fire report File No.767-2-E16
Within this document Sgt. Nicholson outlines 7different issues to be investigated as outlined
in the complaint and subsequent letter to the PS. All seven issues are listed and the results
summarized. All seven issues were found to be 'unfounded' and that the officers from
CFNIS named within the complaint acted "within the scope of their policing duties and
functions pursuant to the MPPTP, and no breachof the MPPCC occurred."[8J
GO File#2011-60 Authored by Sgt. N.C. Nicholson#4789 Professional Standards. This 42
page document outlines and contains the complaints made by Mr. Bees, the investigation
that ensued and the results of said investigation. This document contains a briefing note
fromSgt. Nicholson to Major Stewart via CP02 Champagne.
3.2. Review of PS GO#2011 - 60
GO File #2011-5754 is a 461 page document authored by MCpl Robert Hancock, with input
fromvarious and numerous investigators involveddirectly as well as on the periphery of this
complaint of historical sexual assault.
3.1. Review of GO #2011- 5754
on the testimony of Mr. Bees and his brother as the only proof of the allegations. Dueto the
substantial lack of evidence, a prosecutionwas not recommended.[7J
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During this investigation Mr. Bees sent numerous emails as well as his personal blog
links, which have been attached to the electronic main file. Information contained
with the said emails added no additional information to further this investigation.
Emails continue to be sent to the investigator andare forwarded ona regular basis to
the registryfor purposes of being attached to the electronic file.
4. Support Documentation Received
3.6. Other Details
N/aat this time
The subsequent reply from Crown Attorney J on Werbicki (Edmonton Rural and Regional
Response Office) was received via email dated Tuesday 1st November 2011. Mr. Werbicki
responded: "There is a substantial lack of evidence in this case and therefore, we would not
recommend a prosecution." [10]
On the 19th October 2011 MCpl Hancock delivered a prepared package of information and
evidence to the Regional Crown Prosecutor's office in Morinville AB. The package consisted
of all written matter within GO 2011-5754 as well as any recorded interviews with potential
witnesses. A "Legal Review" was requested to determine if in fact the investigation
supported the elements for a criminal offence under section 156 Criminal Code (indecent
assault on male)1980. 156. to 158. [Repealed, R.S., 1985, c. 19(3rd Supp.), s. 2].(9)
3.5. Legal Research
No policy reviewundertaken at this time.
3.4. Policy Review
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Mr. Bees feels that there was not enough done to secure the names and possibly
statements from the group of children gathered outside the :J MQon the date in
question.
Mr. Bees alleged in his original complaint of sexual assault that onone occasion the sister of
walked in on them, while in ; second story bedroom, while
the subject was having anal intercourse with the complainant. Subsequently, Mr. Bees
alleges that the .ister(nowknown as . . - "1 contacted all of her friends who
gathered outside the. , PMQ and ridiculed the complainant when he and -
looked out the secondfloor window.
Among the documents were Child and Family Services reports on the family and in
particular (Bobbie Bees). These reports indicate an emotionally disturbed child
with depressive tendencies. However these reports never relate directly to any sexual
assault bythe subject' . . " - -r anyone else, against Mr. Bees.
Mr. Bees was interviewed (audio recorded) by Peter Cicalo and Claude Bergeron,
investigators withthe MPCC, onJ uly 19th 2012 at the Sheraton Hotel downtown Vancouver.
Mr. Bees attended with a plethora of written documents he had either compiled or had
received as a result of Freedom of Information (FOI) requests. He also had with him his
personal computer to which he referred to on manyoccasions.
5.1.2.lnterview of Mr. Bobbie Bees (complainant)
With respect to this allegation the MPCC investigators focused on the information supplied
to the CFNIS investigators by Mr. Bees, the GO's submitted by CFNIS as well as the (audio
recorded) interviews conducted bythe MPCC investigators with:
o Mr. Bees (the complainant)
eSgt. Christian Cyr (Investigator)
o P01 Steven Morris (Case Manager)
MCpl Robert Hancock (Investigator)
5.1.1. Documentsl Recordings of Interest
Failure to completely investigate the allegation of historical child sexual
abuse.
5.1. Allegation #1:
5. Analysis
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[11] [51:30 minute] Recorded interview of Mr. BobbieBees by MPCCinvestigators onthe 19th J uly2012.
Page 3of 5: Interview Summary of Mr. Bobbie Bees.
[12] [10:25 minute] Recorded interview of Sgt. Christian CyrbyMPCCinvestigators onthe 20th J uly2012.
Page 2of 3: Interview Summary of Sgt. Cyr.
[13] ibid
o Sgt. Cyr again explained in greater detail how he had interviewed a teacher
at Guthrie School as well as Edmonton Police Service School Resource
Officers regarding the location of any pictures of . The picture
that was located is onfile with the GO.
e Mr. Bees' father was spoken to and then audio/video recorded interview at
the CFNIS Edmonton Detachment.
o Sgt. Cyr also spoke briefly with ~,. who refused access to his
son indicating he hadnothing to sayto police.I'"
Sgt. Cyr went through the numerous steps of the investigation that he was a part of
and involved in.
e Searched for fire records (As a result of informationsupplied by Mr. Bees)
o Searched the school on the base (Guthrie) and a secondary school just off
the base for former student records (from 1978-80) in the hopes of finding a
picture of for identification purposes.
o Located
o Through CPIC determined the police involvement of one . . .~who
fit the age category, address history of the subject in this file.
t) Located a Ontario address for
o Spoke with (Father of Bobbie Bees)
o . was contacted but refusedcontact with his son
['L]
Sgt. Cyr was aware that Mr. Bees had originally contactedthe Edmonton Police Service and
then advised that the Military Police(CFNIS) would follow-upwith this investigation.
Sgt. Cyr was promoted and transferred during the course of this file investigation. Sgt. Cyr
was the second lead investigator on this matter and was present for the original interviewof
Mr. Bees.
5.1.3 Interview of Sgt. Christian Cyr #5161 (Subject)
, died Mayzo" 2011. NB: Father
Mr. Bees indicated during his interview with the MPCC investigators that he "has done lots
of research and reading" to come to his conclusions of how investigations are obfuscated.
However, no concrete evidence was offered. [11]
Mr. Bees feels that there are unresolved issues concerning the late Captain Father _
I 1that Mr. Bees remembers ,1 bringing himto the church on the base,
meeting Fr. however does not remember leaving.
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[lsJ Page 2 of 3: Interview Summary of POI Morris
[16] Page Iof3: Interview Summary ofMCpl Hancock
[17] Page 2 of3: Interview Summary ofMCpl Hancock
MCpl Hancock advised of the number of people he interviewedor who he was involvedwith
during interviews. These interviews included the sister of the alleged suspect, who advised
she had never witnessed any sexual assault perpetrated by her brother, and that itwould be
something she would neverforget.
When asked if at any time anyone told MCpl Hancock to "take it easy on this file?" "At any
time did anyone ever tell youto take it easy onthis file?"
He replied: "No, essentially it would be the opposite. Ihave never beentold that on a single
investigation since I've been here!" "Actually the opposite." [17]
MCpl Hancock has beeninvolved in this case since, March 2011. He set upto organize and
take the original statement from the complainant. At the time Sgt Ritco was the lead
investigator and MCpl was assisting him. The file also involvedSgt. Cyr who at the time was
conducting some of the follow-up on the information supplied by Mr. Bees. Because the
complaint was thirty years past, there was a great deal to follow-up and therefore a number
of investigators had someformof involvement inthe lnvestiqation.L"
5.1.5 Interview of MCpl Robert Hancock #5118 (Subject)
MCpl Hancock dealt with the Crown. However P01 Morris was the officer that called Mr.
Bees to advise himof the results of the Crown Attorney's review in that there would be no
criminal charges inthis matter. [15]
P01 Morris did not personally interviewany witnesses inthe Bees matter.
When his posting commenced as Case Manager with CFNIS WR he had approximately 55
cases assigned to eleven investigators. Some cases were near completion and others just
beginning.
Presently P01 Morris is the Case Manager for WR CFNIS posted at CFB Edmonton
Garrison. Hejoined this section in J une of 2011 as the Case Manager, under the command
of Major Gilchrist. (Detachment Commander)
5.1.4 Interview of P01 Steven Morris #4231 (Subject)
o "Idid a lot of the steps and anything Icould think of; teachers, schools,
father, flying to Victoria to meet with him." As well as checking through
historical military records.
"I am confident in saying that Idid everything Icould to the best of my
abilities on this file.,,[14]
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[19libid
When asked if there was anything that he felt could have been done that wasn't. MCpl
replied "I only wish I could have talked to 1but he refused to talk to us." "I
worked so hard on this file" "If the Crown said there was something I could do to be
able to laya charge, I would have done it!" [19]
Copies of video interviews and a written Crown Brief were delivered to the Crownfor a legal
review of the file. MCpl Hancock physically delivered these documents to the Crown. The
Crown replied by email what his findings were, and P01 Morris contacted the complainant
with the results.
Regarding the children that were alteced to have been outside when Mr. Bees looked out
the second floor window of the . ) residence, none were located. Mr. Bees was
advised if he knew any names of these people it would be looked into. However, these
children would have been at ground level and this incident allegedly took place on the
second floor of the PMQ, which would be out of view from anyone standing
outside at ground level. [1'8J
(brother of Bobbie Bees), who didn't recall any contact with his brother
that had or the local Priest Father . However he did describe
one incident involving the subject ,_ __ _where his brother, Bobbie Bees had described a
similar incident involving and - I. rowever did not remember
Bobbie Bees being presentwhen the incident occurred with the subject.
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It is felt bythe MPCC investigators that '.' . (subject) exercising his right not
to be interviewed, certainly hinderedthe investigation, or at least hinderedthe opportunity of
obtaining a confirmation of allegation or the possibility of supplying irrefutable evidence to
the contrary. The review of GO 2011-5754 conducted by the MPCC investigators revealed
that an impressive amount of work was done by the MP members to investigate this matter.
It also revealed that this GO file was one of the finest files that investigator Bergeron has
observed during his tenure with the MPCC reviewing CFNIS cases.
A Crown Brief was prepared by the CFNIS investigator and a request was made for a legal
reviewby the Regional Crown Attorney's Office. Mr. J on Werbicki Crown Prosecutor for the
Edmonton Rural and Regional Response Office responded in writing and stated that "The
only possibility of independent corroboration would be the testimony of She,
however, does not recall any incident where she interrupted a form of sexual abuse by her
brother on one of the young people." "There is a substantial lack of evidence in this case
and therefore, we would not recommend a prosecution."[20]
As far as the youths alleged to have gathered outside the PMQ, mocking the
complainant as a result of information given to them by the subject's sister; this area of
investigation was never confirmed or refuted. The complainant could not supply any names
for the CFNIS investigators to follow up with. It was explained to the complainant by the
investigators that should it be possible to contact any of those persons today, the
information they would be able to supply would be circumstantial at best and definitely
hearsay.
Former schools of the complainant were checked for historical records of the subject
in the hopes of locating a photograph for identification purposes. Edmonton
Police Service School Resource officers were contacted and assisted in this venture. An old
photo was located as well as a former teacher of , however he was unable to
assist to any length.
.. (Younger brother of the complainant) was interviewed and although he related
on incident that occurred between the babysitter 1and himself, he did not
recall his brother .thecomplainant) being present nor did he speak to himabout the
incident.
- ... Sr. (father of the complainant) indicated that he was unaware of any such assault
and addedthat he and his son hadbecome estranged over the past fewyears.
:,(Sister of j who was apparently the sole eye witness to
one incident inside the bedroomof the subject on the second floor of the PMQ,
indicated to the investigators that she had no recollection of any such assault.
r. was spoken to and refused to let his son speakwith the investigators.
The original complaint in this matter is of an alleged historical sexual assault that took place
over thirty years ago. The CFNIS investigators located and interviewed those closest to the
incident as well as witnesses that may have provided some insight to the alleged assaults.
5.1.6 Investigator observations and remarks for
Allegation #1
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[20] GO#2011-5754 page: 32of 461. (Email fromCrownAttorney's officeto MCpJ Hancock)
[21] Page: 4 of 5Interview Summary of Mr. Bees
[22] ibid
[23] Page: 3of 3Interview Summary of Sgt. Cyr
Sgt. Cyr responded "NO. I did a lot of the steps and anything I could think of; teachers,
schools, father, flying to Victoria to meet with him." As well as checking through historical
military records.
"I amconfident in saying that I did everything I could to the best of my abilities on this file."
[23]
Regarding this allegation, each of the investigators was asked a similar question: Was this
file given a 'soft investigation' to avoid a lawsuit against the Department of Nation Defence
or the Minister of Defence?
Interviewof Sgt. Christian Cyr #5161 5.2.3.
Mr. Bees stated "You'll never be able to prove this with hard facts. But this is a massive
conflict of interest. The police force that would be responsible for this investigation also
works for the Department of National Defence, the department that's being sued." [22]
While discussing the "soft investigation" allegation Peter Cicalo asked: "What information
can you provide that supports this assertion?" Other than a presumption on the part of Mr.
Bees he was asked what "hardfacts"
Mr. Bees was asked bythe MPCC investigators "What is a soft investigation?"
His answer was: "Not doing anything too much. Not doing a complete investigation. [21]
Interviewof Mr. Bobbie Bees 5.2.2.
With respect to this allegation the MPCC investigators focused on the information supplied
to the CFNIS investigators by Mr. Bees, the GO's submitted byCFNIS as well as the (audio
recorded) interviews conducted bythe MPCC investigators with:
Mr. Bees (the complainant)
Sgt. Christian Cyr (Investigator)
G P01 Steven Morris (Case Manager)
e MCpl Robert Hancock(Investigator)
Documentsl Recordings of Interest 5.2.1.
Allegation that this complaint was given a "soft investigation" in order to ensure
that the Minister of National Defence was not subjected to a lawsuit.
5.2. Allegation #2.
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(25) Page: 2 of 3Interview Summary MCpl Hancock
When conducting the interviews of the present andformer CFNIS investigators as well as
the Case Manager P01 Morris, all were adamant with their respect answers regardingany
suggestion of a soft investigation.
At the time of this investigation, there is no evidence or documentation that Mr. Bees is
suing the DND or any other entity related to his complaint of sexual assault; nor, in the
opinion of the MPCC investigators, would it have made a difference relative to this
investigation.
Mr. Bees responded to this allegation by indicating that a "soft investigation' could not be
proven by hard facts.(21) He also indicated that it was his opinion that this was a conflict of
interest in that the Force investigating this matter works for the Department of National
Defence" the department that's getting sued." (21)
Investigator observations and remarks 5.2.6.
Claude Bergeron Q: "So nobody told youto go easy because DND is goingto get suedon
this."
A: "Absolutely not." (25)
A: "No, essentially it would bethe opposite. I have never beentold that ona single
investigationsince I've been here!" "Actuallythe opposite."
Q: "At anytime did anyone ever tell youto take it easy onthis file?"
Regarding this allegation, each of the investigators was asked a similar
question:
Interviewof MCpl Robert Hancock#5118 5.2.5.
His explanation continued as to howthe CFNIS conducted this and all investigations to the
best of their ability. With reference to this file, P01 Morris indicated that all possible leads
were explored and only after the Crown indicated that there was insufficient evidence to
substantiatecriminal charges did they conclude their investigation.
P01 Morris responded: "No. None of our investigations are soft. The guys found a year
bookfrom 1970 something, they went to the Edmonton J ournal to see if there were records
of the explosion, we flew to Vancouver to interview him(Bees) and we dealt with archived
records in Ottawa. Numerous people were interviewed. None of our investigations are
soft.,,(24)
Regarding this allegation, each of the investigators was asked a similar
question: Was this file given a 'soft investigation' to avoid a lawsuit against the
Departmentof Nation Defence or the Minister of Defence?
Interviewof P01 Steven Morris #4231 5.2.4.
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Three different police services were made aware of this report and a fourth was involved on
the peripherywith the health and well-being concerns of the complainant.
At one point during the investigation CFNIS Case Manager P01 Morris contacted the
Vancouver Police Service because of concerns he had for the complainant's well-being. Mr.
Bees was contacted and subsequently received medical attention as a result.
During the investigation by CFNIS contacts were made with the EPS and their School
Resource Officers in an attempt to locate any photographs and or other pertinent
information to assist in the investigation.
It is apparent to the MPCC investigators that all three policing organizations, EPS, RCMP
and CFNIS were made aware of this incidentandjurisdictional issues were determined.
5.3.2. Investigator observations and remarks for
Allegation #3
March 5th2011: email fromthe complainant to the Edmonton PoliceService
indicating his wish to file a complaint of historical sexual assault from1978-1980on
CFB Namao.
March ih 2011: internal email fromEdmonton Police Service (EPS) one DebbieJ oly
to a Shawna Goodkey of the Alberta Serious Response Team(ASIRT) requesting
jurisdictional information.
March ih 2011 fromShawn J ohnson (ASIRT) to WO Hart, CFNIS WR lookingfor
clarification of jurisdiction.
March 7th2011: email fromWO Blair Hart to MWO Eisenmenger requesting
assistance onjurisdiction issue.
March ih 2011: email fromMWO Eisenmenger to WO Hart requesting headvise
EPS that CFNIS has "solejurisdiction in Lancaster Park."
NB: MWO Eisenmenger requestedthe WO Hart contact Morinville RCMP to
determine if there was a report duringthe time in question.(1978-1980) Ifthere had
beena report made at the time, the RCMP would have hadjurisdiction however now
would bethe CFNIS.
GO #2011-5754 pages: 20-22 inclusive. This is a string of emails datingfromMarch 5th2011
through to March7th 2011.
With respect to this allegation the MPCCfocused onthe CFNIS GO#2011-5754 andspecific
documents within as will be described.
Documentsl Recordings of Interest 5.3.1.
5.3. Allegation #3: Allegation that the Military Police did not
notify outside civilian police agencies of the allegation
of sexual assault.
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[26] CFPMjDPM PS GO#2011-60 Page: 24 of42.
A. Original complaint
B. Professional Standards Report of Final Disposition CFPM PS GO#2011-60
C. Request for review
D. Document Index List.
Registry; would you please attach the following four documents to the Investigation Report
as appendices as well as the interviewsummaries:
7. Appendices
Mr. Bees was unsatisfied with the investigation and filed a complaint where the CFPM PS
(Professional Standards) reviewedthe investigation and determined that
" the MP investigation was very thorough despite the complicated process of retrievingthirty
year old evidence." It was also determined at that time that the investigators involved with
the sexual assault investigation acted within the scope of their policing duties and functions
pursuant to the MPPTP, and no breachof the MPPCC occurred." [26]
A brief was prepared which includedall CFNIS reports, notes as well as recorded interviews.
This package was delivered by CFNIS to the Regional Crown Prosecutor who, after a full
review of the evidence determined that there was insufficient evidence to substantiate
criminal charges in this matter. His determination was that there was only one possible eye
witness; however she ( denies ever seeing her brother
having anal intercourse with anyone at the family PMQ, hence the determination 01 IIV
charges.
No witness interviewed could supply SUbstantial information that would warrant the
prosecutionof the subject for sexual assault, as per the Criminal Code of Canada 1980.
Duringthe CFNIS investigation numerous persons of interest were interviewed andattempts
to interviewthe subject in this matter were blocked by his father. The witnesses that were
interviewed, including the complainant's father and brother as well as the subject's sister
who, according to the complainant, would be the onlyeye witness to anyevents.
In March of 2011 Mr. Bobbie bees filed a complaint of a historical sexual assault with the
Edmonton Police Service via their general website. As a result of this email, numerous
correspondences were generated between the EPS, CFNIS and also the RCMP to
determinejurisdiction. Itwas decided that the CFNIS would retain responsibilityfor this file.
6. Investigator General Observations and Comments
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o All interviews were conducted with MPCC investigators Peter Cicalo and
Claude Bergeron.
e Interviewof Sgt. Christian Cyr was conducted by phone.
II Interviews in CFB Edmontonwere with P01 Morris and MCpl Hancock in
person.
_,in o Interviewin Vancouver was Mr. Bobbie Bees (Formerly
person.
g Interviews were conductedfromJ uly 19th, 2012 to J uly 31st, 2012 in
Vancouver B.C., EdmontonAB and CFB Borden ON.
7.1. Interview Summaries
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NUMBER DATE
001 EdmontonJ ournal fromJ uly30,2008 02-02-12 Complainant
002 Letter fromRCMP datedFeb 15,2012 27-02-12 Complainant
003 GOFile2011-5754 02-03-12 PS
004 GOFile2011-060 02-03-12 PS
005 Firereport 07-03-12 PS
006 EdmontonJ ournal fromJ uly 30,2008 withdifferent 28-03-12 Complainant
attachments asdoc001
007 Letter fromRCMP datedFeb 15,2012 - withdifferent 28-03-12 Complainant
attachments asdoc002
008 Small snapshot- ChildDevelopment center 20-07-12 Complainant
009 Part of atelephonebook 20-07-12 Complainant
010 Part of telephonebook 20-07-12 Complainant
011 Fixednamaonumber 20-07-12 Complainant
012 Namaohouseaddresses 20-07-12 Complainant
013 FireNo Information 27-07-12 Complainant
014 Regional CrownProsecutor 16-10-12 Professional Standards
015 CFNISJ urisdiction 18-01-13 Complainant
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Mr. Beesattended the interview with numerous hard copydocuments aswell ashis
personal laptop from which he reflected upon during his interview andstatements. He
related that in his opinion a "soft investigation' was conducted to prevent alawsuit
against all parties included in hi complaint aswell asthe Department of National
Defence. Soft investigation to himmeant not doing all that could have beendone bythe
investigators or DND/ CFNIS.
14:30
Mr. Beesindicated that he was aware that the scopeof MPCCdid not spanbackto the
1978- 1980 incident and complaint, however "I amhoping that the outcome ofthe
MPCCinvestigation will find enough proof or substantiation of doubt inthe 2011
investigation that it hopefully spurs CFNISor National DefenceHeadquarters......which
they cando their own re-investigation of what happened."
08:30
00:00 - 08:00 Introductory comments
Preamble: Recorded, Time, Date, location, persons present andchoice of language
confirmed.
Allegations:
Mr. Beesallegesthat the CFNISand in particular Sgt. Christian Cyr, MCpl Robert
Hancockand PO1Steven Morris:
(1) Failedto completely investigate the allegation of historical child sexual abuse.
(2) This complaint was given a"soft investigation" (asdescribed bythe
complainant) in order to ensurethat the Minister of National Defencewas not
subjected to a lawsuit.
(3) That the Military Policedid not notify outside civilian police agenciesof the
allegation of sexual assault.
Interview Location: Rm.614Sheraton Hotel- Vancouver B.c.
Date/ Time: Thursday, 2012/07/1914:00 -16:50 hrs.
For MPCC: Peter Cicalo Claude Bergeron
NB:All times noted within this document are relative to the recorded minutes of the said interview and not to
the time of day.
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Interviewee: Mr. Bobbie Bees(Formerly
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Mr. Beesdiscusseshow heand another youth vandalizedthe local church where Fr.
resided. No report was ever filed.
same time period at CFBNamao. He was convicted and sent to Toronto by the Diocese.
He was subsequently charged again in Toronto, Ontariofor similar offences. Forthe
Namao case, sealed records will only show the complainant/victim as P.S. due tothe age
of the victim. Father > died on May 20, 2011. Mr. Bees will relate back to
Father, . on numerous occasions during this interview.
was charged with sexual assault on a minor at the It should be noted that Fr. -
At this point the complainant beganto cry and was givena moment to compose himself
before continuing. Hethen continued to discussthe manytimes that
would bring Mr. Beesto Father residence/ church where they would
have snacksandjuice. Mr. Beesindicated that hedoes not remember leavingthe
priest's residence.
Referring to MCpl Cyr Mr. Beesstates; "He saidone thing that set this whole thing off."
"Hejust says,(pause)just blurts out 'It's probably nothing Mr. Beesbut do you
remember anything about the priest on the basebeingchargedwith molesting kids?'
That phone fell out of my handsofast."
Mr. Beesallegesthat MCpl Cyr said it didn't haveanything to do with the Beescase
since his complaint was against
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22:58 MCpl Cyrspokewith the complainant on the phone andadvisedthat he was having
problems locating witnesses inthis matter and addresses;including the sister of the
suspectwho according to Mr. Beeswitnessed one suchsexual assaultin the secondfloor
of the suspect's residence. After witnessing the sexual act between her brother andthe
complainant it is alleged byMr. Beesthat shecontacted numerous other children who
mocked and ridiculed Mr. Bees.
NB: Mr. Bees related back to these statements numerous times during the interview.
Q: What isyour background asit relates to your allegation of sexual assault?
A: March 3rd 20-11 heemailed the Edmonton PoliceService(EPS)about a historical
sexual assaultandsubsequently the complaint was given to the CanadianForces
National Investigation Section(CFNIS),who contacted himand requested an interview
be arranged.
- A couple of weeks after the initial interview he receivedanemail from MCpl Cyr(Now
Sgt. Cyr) advisingthat hewould be investigating this case.
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.ousewhen one allegedsexual assault 12children that were infront of the
hadtaken place.
When askedhis opinion on what CFNISshould havedone differently regardingthis
investigation Mr. Beesreplied that hefelt more could have beendone to locate the 10-
Mr. Beesindicated that he has spoken with the Crown Attorney regarding this matter as
well asthe Divisional Crown who advisedthat there was insufficient evidence to
substantiate criminal charges. Mr. Beesindicated that the Crown Prosecutor also
advised himto proceed inCivil Court becauseof the differences in expectations of
responsibilities.
(60#2011-5754 Page 32of 461: email from Mr. Jon Werbicki, Crown Prosecutor Alberta Justice
Edmonton Rural and Regional Response Office to MCpl R Hancock)
Mr. Bees advised that the subject ssister walked in on them in the
'esidence then left and told many of herfriends of what she had seen.
Subsequently, and according toMr. Bees, when he looked out the second floor window
there were a number of children well aware of what had transpired and were already
mocking him within minutes of this particular occurrence.
Theissuesurrounding Mr. Bees' indication of ten to twelve child witnesses on one
occasionthat hewas allegedto have been sexuallyassaulted(1978- 1980)b\
., III/aSbrought upwith POl Morris and apparently hadadvised Mr. Beesthat
they didn't havethe resources to track them down.
Mr. Beesindicated that he has done "lots of research" to come to his conclusionsof how
investigations are "obfuscated".
Mr. Beesadvisedthat he received anemail from WIO Hart concerning the investigative
changeson the file. (Email dated 18J uI2011:20:11hrs) As aresult of the return email
sent by Mr. Bees,the Vancouver PoliceServicewascontacted with concerns for the
complainant's well-being. Mr. Beesadvised heended up in hospital on "suicide watch".
WIO Hart contact Mr. Beesand advisedof internal transfers and that the investigator
will changeon hisfile. MCpl Hancockreturned to the file.
Peter Cicaloexplained to the complainant that the final carriageof the file was with
MCpl Hancockasthe lead investigator and POl Morris asthe CaseManager. Also
explained, was the sealing processof criminal caseswhere young people are involved as
victims.
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Mr. Beeshad produced a lengthy document from Childand FamilyServiceshighlighting
some childhood difficulties he had encountered subsequent to beingtransferred from
Hearsayevidence was explained to Mr. Beesandthe reasons hearsayis generally not
accepted bythe courts unlessspecific exceptional circumstances are prevalent.
Discussionensued concerning the differences between Civil andCriminal findings of
responsibility. Mr. Beesadvisedthat after he had received direction from the Crown
Attorney to proceed civilly hespoke with lawyers in Edmonton andthey saidhe would
have no case.
Mr. Bees"I can't prove anyone saiddid asoft investigation."
Peter Cicaloexplained how Mr. Beesthird allegation was not factual. TheCFNIS,
Edmonton PoliceServiceaswell asthe RCMPwere all aware of this complaint andit was
determined that the matter was to be handled by CFNIS.
A: Mr. Beesindicated that he hada letter from a retired J AGindicating the military had
no jurisdiction.
It was then explained to Mr. Bees,again, the parties involved inthe decision making
process to determine that the Military did in fact havejurisdiction.
Q: "What is asoft investigation?"
A: "Not doing anything too much. Not doing acomplete investigation.
Q: Doyou haveanything that supports that? Or is this anopinion?"
Mr. Beesreply discussedthe Somalia report volume 5. Thendiscussedhow Military Police
Officers are soldiers first then police. How the Military did not introduce the
recommendations.
Mr. Beesstated "You'll never be able to prove this with hard facts. Butthis is amassive
conflict of interest. The police force that would be responsible for this investigation also
works for the Department of National Defence, the department that's beingsued."
While discussingthe "soft investigation" allegation Peter Cicaloasked: "What
information canyou provide that supports this assertion?" Other than apresumption
on the part of Mr. Beeshewas askedwhat "hard facts"
Mr. Beesargued that if the CFNISinvestigators had "vigorously" investigated this matter
and brought the subject '~ourt,the 1980Court Martial of Captain Father
would be brought out again, and the military doesn't want that. It would
make the military look badaccording to Mr. Bees.
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Subsequent to the formal interviewapproximately20 minutes of general conversation
took place. Mr. Bees used the facilities and had a coffee prior tohis departure.
NB:
At 16:50 hrs. the interview was completed and recording systemturned off.
Reviewof the information briefly aswell assomegeneral conversation about the well-
beingof Mr. Beesat the present time.
2:18:00
CFBNamao. He discussed some ofthe report's documented findings. Mr. Bees had been
shown to exhibit signs of depression and not emotionally functional. No specifics of
cause were mentioned in the report.
Mr. Bees does not have any relationship with his father, brother or his younger half-
brother. He does not know where his father or siblings reside. Mother has not been in
the scope of Mr. Bees' life for many years.
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MCpl Hancockhas been involved in this casesince, March 2011. Heset upto organize andtake
the original statement from the complainant. At the time SgtRitcowas the leadinvestigator and
MCpl was assistinghim. Thefile also involved Sgt. Cyrwho at the time was conducting some of
the follow-up onthe information supplied by Mr. Bees.Becausethe complaint was thirty years
past, there was agreat deal to follow-up and therefore anumber of investigators hadsome
form of involvement inthe investigation.
05:01 MCpl Hancockhas beenwith the Military for eight years: Oneyear intraining, then five years on
patrol andtwo years asaninvestigator with CFNIS.
00:00 Introductory comments
Preamble: Recorded, Time, Date, location, persons present and choiceof language
confirmed.
Allegations:
Mr. Beesallegesthat the CFNISand in particular Sgt. ChristianCyr, MCpl Robert
(2) This complaint was given a "soft investigation" (asdescribed bythe
complainant) in order to ensure that the Minister of National Defencewas not
subjected to alawsuit.
Interview Location: CFBEdmonton CFNISOffice
Date/ Time: Friday, 2012/07/2015:28 - 16:06hrs.
NB: All times noted within this document are relative to the recorded minutes of the said interview and not to
the time of day.
Interviewee: MCpl Robert Hancock #5118
Service#
CanadianForcesNational Investigation Service
Western RegionDetachment
POBox10500Station Forces
Edmonton Alberta TSJ 4J S
Email: Robert.hancock@forces.gc.ca
Interview Summary MCpl R. Hancock
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hardon this file"__ "If the Crown saidthere was something I could do to beableto laya
charge, I would havedone it!"
"I worked so 1 -t he refusedto talk to us." A: "I only wish I could havetalked to
33:00 Q: Was there anything that you feel could have beendone that wasn't?
29:30 Copiesof video interviews and awritten Crown Brief were delivered to the Crown for a legal
review of the file. MCpl Hancockphysically delivered these documents to the Crown. TheCrown
replied byemail what hisfindings were, and pal Morris contacted the complainant with the
results.
head on asilver platter.' I worked hard onthis for him" where he said'I want
23:20 Q: Inyour opinion, was Mr. Bobbie Bees'complaint of historical sexual abusecompletely
investigated?
A: "Yes, and I worked hard for Bobbie! Eventhough hewould send usthreatening type emails
22:11 Regardingthe children that were alleged to have beenoutside when Mr. Beeslooked out the
secondfloor window of the esidence none were located. Mr. Beeswas advisedif he
knewanynames of these people it would be looked into. However, these children would have
beenat ground level and this incident allegedly took placeonthe secondfloor of the
which would be out of view from anyone standing outside at ground level.
involving the subject Nhere his brother, BobbieBeeshad described asimilar incident
involving' and wever did not remember Bobbie Beesbeing
present when the incident occurred with the subject.
. However he did describe one incident o Idor the local Priest Father
17:30 MCpl Hancockadvisedof the number of people he interviewed or who hewas involved with
during interviews. These interviews included the sister of the allegedsuspect, who advisedshe
had never witnessed any sexual assaultperpetrated by her brother, and that it would be
something shewould never forget.
,brother of Bobbie Bees),who didn't recall anycontact with his brother that
14:48 Q: "At anytime did anyone ever tell you to take it easyonthis file?"
A: "No, essentially it would bethe opposite. I have never beentold that onasingle investigation
since I've been here!" "Actually the opposite."
Claude Bergeron Q: "SO nobody told you to go easybecauseDNDis goingto get sued on this."
A: "Absolutely not."
13:00 Sgt. Cyrwas promoted (to Sergeant) andtransferred therefore the casewas reassignedto MCpl.
Hancockasthe lead investigator. At that time WO Blair Hart was the CaseManager. WO Hart
was replaced, due to transfer by POl Morris.
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38:22 16:06 hrs. Interview concluded.
38:15 Q: Isthere anything elseyou want to sayfor the record?
A: No, that's it.
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POl Morris did not personally interview anywitnesses in the Beesmatter. 14:30
When his posting commenced asCaseManager with CFNISWR he had approximately 55
casesassignedto eleven investigators. Somecaseswere near completion andothers just
beginning.
Presently POl Morris isthe CaseManager for WRCFNISposted at CFBEdmonton
Garrison. Hejoined this section inJ uneof 2011asthe CaseManager, under the
command of Major Gilchrist. (Detachment Commander)
08:37
00:00 Introductory comments
Preamble: Recorded, Time, Date, location, persons present and choiceof language
confirmed.
Allegations:
Mr. Beesalleges that the CFNISand in particular Sgt. Christian Cyr, MCpl Robert
Hancockand PO1StevenMorris:
(1) Failedto completely investigate the allegation of historical child sexualabuse.
(2) This complaint was given a"soft investigation" (as described bythe
complainant) inorder to ensure that the Minister of National Defencewas not
subjected to a lawsuit.
Interview Location: CFBEdmonton CFNISOffice
Date/ Time: Friday, 2012/07/2014:05 - 14:59 hrs.
NB:All times noted within this document are relative to the recorded minutes of the said interview and not to
the time of day.
Interviewee: POl Steven Morris #4231
Service#I
Canadian ForcesNational Investigation Service
Western RegionDetachment
POBox10500Station Forces
Edmonton Alberta T5J 4J 5
Email: steven.morris3@forces.gc.ca
Interview Summary POl Steven Morris
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(14:59 hrs.) Interview concluded and recording stopped.
the Beesinterview at the insistence of Mr. Bees.That he (POl Morris) was awarethat
vas deceasedand that Mr. Beeshaddiscussedthe issueshefelt relevant at
length concerning
were discussedat length during The issuesthat Mr. Beeshadconcerning
Explanation continued on the part of POl Morris asto how the CFNISconducted this
andall investigations to the best of their ability. With reference to this file, POl Morris
indicated that all possible leads were explored and only after the Crown indicated that
there was insufficient evidence to substantiate criminal charges did they conclude their
investigation.
Q: Toyour knowledge, was this complaint given asoft investigation inorder to ensure
that the Minister of National Defencewas not subjected to a lawsuit?
A: No. Noneof our investigations are soft. "The guys found a year book from 197-
something, they went to the Edmonton Journal to see if there were records of the
explosion, we flew to Vancouver to interview him (Bees), we dealt with archived records
in Ottawa. Numerous people were interviewed. None of our investigations are soft."
Q: Other than communicating with the Crown Attorney's office via email, were you ever
incontact with the Crown Prosecutor regarding the review of the Beesfile, and his
findings?
A: No. MCpl Hancockdealt with the Crown. However POl Morris was the officer that
called Mr. Beesto advise himof the results of the Crown Attorney's review; that there
would be no criminal charges in this matter.
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After receiving an email which caused POl Morris some concern as to the well-being of
Mr. Bees, he contacted the civilian authorities so as to expedite someone to check on his
condition and mental state.
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06:11 Military history
2004- Direct entry as M.P. (BasicM.P. training)
2005- QL5training Postedto Wainwright AB.
2007- QL5MP training (CoachOfficer Certification)
- Worked onfraud case
- Worked on Drug case
2009- Afghanistan posting
- Courseon IntelLigencegathering
2010 - (Summer) returned from Afghanistanto Edmonton CFNISInvestigator
- M.P. Investigator course
- 1year with CFNIS(Involved with the investigation of two sexual assaultcases)
00:00 - (09:40 hrs.) Introductory comments
Preamble: Recorded, Time, Date, location, persons present and choice of language
confirmed.
Allegations:
Mr. Beesalleges that the CFNISand in particular Sgt. Christian Cyr, MCpl Robert
(2) This complaint was given a"soft investigation" (asdescribed bythe
complainant) inorder to ensure that the Minister of National Defencewas not
subjected to alawsuit.
Interview Location: 270Albert St. Ottawa On. MPCCoffices / Boardroom (Telephone interview)
Date/ Time: Tuesday, 31Jul2012 09:40-19:25 hrs.
NB:All times noted within this document are relative tothe recorded minutes of the said interview and not to
the time of day.
Interviewee: SgtChristian Cyr Badge#5161
Service#".:. _
CanadianForces Military PoliceAcademy
CanadianForcesBaseBorden On.
LOM1CO
Email: Christian.cyr2@forces.gc.ca
Interview Summary Sgt. C Cyr
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o Sgt. Cyr again explained in greater detail how' he had interviewed a
teacher at Guthrie School as well as Edmonton Police Service School
only hears from his son when he (Bees) needs money,
(father of Bobbie Bees) he indicated that he 30:36 When Sgt. Cyr spoke with (
31:30 NOTE:There is some confusion as towhether Mr. Bees brought up the issue surraunding
'deceased) and the lawsuit and criminal charges or if Sgt. Cyr
originated the conversation. General Occurrencereport indicates it was Sgt. Cyrwho
mentioned it however at the time of interview Sgt. Cyrindicated that he did not recall
where the information originated.
the Base Padre, for sexual assault. with a criminal charge against
nad been involved 26:56 Mr. Bees told Sgt. Cyr that he had 'googled' and found that
was contacted but refused contact with his son
.ddress for o Located a
Iwho fit the age
Ifor former student records in the hopes of finding a picture of
identification purposes.
II Located.
I D Through CPICdetermined the police involvement of one
category, address history of the subject in this file.
Sgt. Cyr went through the numerous steps of the investigation that he was a part of and
involved in.
II Searched for fire records (As a result of information supplied by Mr. Bees)
e Searched the school on the base (Guthrie) and a secondary school just off the base for
19:25 Sgt. Cyr was aware that Mr. Bees had originally contacted the Edmonton Police Service and then
advised that the Military Police (CFNIS) would follow-up with this investigation.
16:10 Sgt Cyr was not the original investigator assigned to this file. An investigative plan had already
been prepared which he would have been briefed on and made any additions at that time as
deemed necessary.
2011- Posted to CFB Borden; Canadian Forces Military Police Academy
- Teaching in both the Franco and Anglo groups
14:05 Q: Who was your case manager while you were involved in this case?
A: Sgt. Scott Shannon: He was reposted - P02 Fred Dumas was supervisor and partner on this
file - WO Bonneteau (Now retired) - Then WO Blair Hart.
Interview Summary Sgt. C Cyr
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Thisofficer did not have anycontact with the Crown Attorney who reviewed the
caseto its conclusion.
39:22 Q: Was this file given a'soft investigation' to avoid alawsuit against the
Department of Nation Defenceor the Minister of Defence?
A: "NO. I did alot of the steps and anything I could think of; teachers, schools,
father, flying to Victoria to meet with him." Aswell ascheckingthrough historical
military records.
"I amconfident insayingthat I did everything I could to the best of my abilities on
this file."
who refused accessto his o Sgt. Cyr alsospoke briefly with I..
sonindicating he had nothing to sayto police.
Resource Officers regarding the location of any pictures of
. The picture that was located is on file with the GO.
e Mr. Bees'father was spokento and then audio/video recorded interview
at the CFNISEdmonton Detachment.
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Approved on Fri, 03 Feb. 2012 by 3934 CADMAN, KEVIN
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Reporting officer! : 3332 HART, BLAIR R
Report expected: YES Founded: YES
Cleared by: FINAL
Complaint Information
Incident Location
Address: CFB NAMEO EDMONTON AB EDMONTON, AB
Zone: INV
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Type: PRIME
Casetype: SEXUAL ASSAULT Priority: 1
Timereceived: 15:41:23
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Howreceived: E-MAIL
Call taker ID : TRC HART, BLAIR R
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THE COMPLAINANT EMAILED EDMONTON POLICE SERVICE REPORTING HE WAS A
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HE WAS "SEXUALLY ABUSED" BY A MALE BABYSITTER.
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QUEEN ELIZABETH HIGH SCHOOL
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At 1541 hr s, 5 Mar 11, Mr BEES cont act ed t he Edmont on Pol i ce Ser vi ce ( EPS) ,
vi a t hei r cor por at e websi t e, r epor t i ng he was a r esi dent at CFB Edmont on i n
t he l at e 1970s, and dur i ng t hat t i me he was sexual l y abused by a mal e
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r epor t t he mat t er t o EPS and st at ed t hat t he CF was unwi l l i ng t o pur sue t he
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advi sed Mr BEES t hat t hi s was a ci vi l i an mat t er ; however , due t o CFNI S
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MPIR COMPLAINT SYNOPSIS
INITIAL COMPLAINT
Author: 3332 HART, BLAIR R
Related date: Sat, 05 Mar. 2011 at 15:41
Lock Code: NCXXXBCW
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Thi s message and accompanyi ng at t achment s cont ai n sensi t i ve or pr i vi l eged i nf or mat i on t hat
i s i nt ended onl y f or t he use of t he i ndi vi dual or ent i t y t o whi ch i t i s addr essed. Any
di ssemi nat i on, di st r i but i on, copyi ng or act i on t aken i n r el i ance on t he cont ent s of t hi s
communi cat i on by anyone ot her t han t he i nt ended r eci pi ent i s st r i ct l y pr ohi bi t ed. I f you
have r ecei ved t hi s communi cat i on i n er r or , pl ease not i f y me i mmedi at el y at t he above e-
mai l addr ess and del et e t he e- mai l . Thank you.
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Of f i ce: 780- 973- 4011 ext 5232
Cel l ul ar : 780- 232- 5937
Fax: 780- 973- 1648
CSN: 528- 5232
Emai l : bl ai r . har t @f or ces. gc. ca
WO B. R. ( Bl ai r ) Har t
Suppor t Oper at i ons War r ant Of f i cer
CFNI S West er n Regi on
Nat i onal Def ence
Bui l di ng 304
P. O Box 10500
Edmont on, AB, Canada, T5J 4J 5
Gover nment of Canada
Do you have any si ght on t hi s? I t woul d appear a woman want s t o r epor t she was sexual l y
assaul t ed year s ago whi l e l i vi ng i n t he Q' s at Nameo and some how she i s of t he i mpr essi on
t hat EPS has t o i nvest i gat e i t . I don' t know wher e she was t ol d t hat but gi ven t he i nf o
bel ow, i n t he i ni t i al emai l , i t l ooks on t he sur f ace t hat i t ' s our s t o deal wi t h.
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Fr om: Har t WO BR@CFNI S@Edmont on
Sent : Monday, 7, Mar ch, 2011 13: 21 PM
To: Ei senmenger MWO TD@CFNI S@Edmont on
Subj ect : FW: J ur i sdi ct i onal mat t er s.
T. O. ( Ter r y) Ei senmenger
Mast er War r ant Of f i cer I Adj udant - mai t r e Canadi an For ces Nat i onal I nvest i gat i ons Ser vi ce
( CFNI S) West er n Regi on Ser vi ce nat i onal des enquet es des For ces canadi ennes, r egi on de
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Of f i ce/ Bur eau: 780- 973- 4011 ext ensi on/ post e 5019
Cel l ul ar / Cel l ul ai r e: 780- 232- 0194
Fax/ Tel ecopi eur : 780- 973- 1648
CSN/ RCCC: 528- 5019
Emai l / Cour r i el : Ter ence. Ei senmenger @f or ces. gc. ca
Thanks
Pl ease have EPS cont act ed and advi se CFNI S has sol e j ur i sdi ct i on i n Lancast er Par k, and
wi l l i nvest i gat e t hi s hi st or i cal sexual assaul t . We r equi r e t hei r assi st ance t o pl ace us
i n cont act wi t h t he vi ct i m. On a si de not e, at t he t i me of t he al l eged i nci dent , t he
Mor i nvi l l e RCMP woul d have had j ur i sdi ct i on. Let s al so est abl i sh i f t hi s f i l e had been
r epor t ed t o t he MP Oet r ecent l y. Enl i st MCpl Mi t chel l assi st ance t o check RCMP Pr obe
r ecor ds as wel l .
WO Har t ,
Eisenmenger MWO TD@CFNIS@Edmonton
Monday, 7, March, 2011 1:28PM
Hart WO BR@CFNIS@Edmonton
RE: J urisdictional matters.
From:
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I wi l l t hen get back t o t he Compl ai nant .
I bel i eve you have a DND i nvest i gat or i n your of f i ce. Woul d you be ki nd enough t o pose
t hi s quest i on and see " hat t he answer i s?
I r ecei ved this quest i on f r om t he ext er nal websi t e. Basi cal l y, t he adul t vi ct i m was
sexual l y abused as a chi l d by a mal e babysi t t er . The occur ence l ocat i on was at C. F. B.
Namao. She t hought t hat DND woul d i nvest i gat e, however "las t ol d t hat because al l i nvol ved
wer e ci vi l i ans, t hen t he EPS woul d i nvest i gat e.
Fr om: Debbi e J ol l y [ mai l t o: Debbi e. J ol l y@edmont onpol i ce. cal
Sent : Monday, Mar ch 07, 2011 11: 06 AM
To: shawna Goodkey
Shawna Goodkey
Al ber t a Ser i ous I nci dent Response Team ( ASI RT)
( 780) 644- 1491
Can you answer t he bel ow quest i on pl ease . . . Shawna
Hi Shawn,
Or i gi nal Message - - - - -
Fr om: Shawna Goodkey
Sent : Monday, Mar ch 07, 2011 12: 46 PM
To: Shawn J ohnson
Cc: Debbi e. J ol l y@edmont onpol i ce. ca <Debbi e. J ol l y@edmont onpol i ce. ca>
Sent f r om Bl ackber r y Wi r el ess Devi ce
Shawn J ohnson
I nvest i gat or
ASI RT Nor t h
Shawn
For your consi der at i on.
Pl ease see chai n bel ow. The EPS i s l ooki ng f or some cl ar i f i cat i on on whet her t hi s f al l s
under t he Mi l i t ar y t o i nvest i gat e. On t he sur f ace I woul d t hi nk t hat i t woul d. I t
concer ns me t hat t he vi ct i m woul d be t ol d t hat i t s not our j ur i sdi ct i on i f i t happened on
t he base.
WO,
Fr om: Shawn J ohnson [ mai l t o: shawn. j ohnson@gov. ab. cal
Sent : Monday, 7, Mar ch, 2011 13: 02 PM
To: Har t WO BR@CFNI S@Edmont on
Subj ect : Fw: J ur i sdi ct i onal mat t er s.
Le pr esent message et t out es l es pl eces j oi nt es qui l ' accompagne cont i enne de
l ' i nf or mat i on sensi bl e ou pr ot egee dest i nee uni quement a l a per sonne ou a l ' ent i t e a
l aquel l e el l e est adr essee. Tout e di f f usi on, di st r i but i on, copi e ou aut r e act i on
concer nant son cont enu par une aut r e per sonne que son dest i nat ai r e est st r i ct ement
i nt er di t . Si vous avez r eyu ce message par er r eur , veui l l ez m' en i nf or mer i mmedi at ement a
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Ihave a quest i on and maybe you can hel p me with an answe r . Iwas a dependant l i vi ng on
C. F. B. Namao f r om 1978 t o appr oxi mat el y 1980. My f at her . I as i n t he Ar med For ces. I was
sexual l y abused by a mal e baby si t t er who was al so a dependant of anot her member of t he
Ar med For ces.
The Canadi an Ar med For ces seems t o be unwi l l i ng t o get i nvol ved as t hey cl ai m t hat t he
Edmont on Pol i ce Ser vi ce woul d have had j ur i sdi ct i on over any ' ci vi l i an' event s t hat
occur r ed on DND pr oper t y l ocat ed at C. F. B. Namao. I s t hi s t r ue, or am I j ust get t i ng a
pol i t e br ush of f ?
Basi cal l y It r yi ng t o t r ack t hi s per son down as Iwoul d l i ke t o:
( a) pr ess cr i mi nal char ges and
( b) i ni t i at e a l awsui t f or damages i n t he Supr eme Cour t .
Hel l o,
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Sent : Sat ur day, Mar ch OS, 2011 3: 2U ~M
To: 8PS - Mai n ( Gr oup)
Subj ect : J ur i sdi ct i onal mat t er s.
Thank you,
Debbi e
Mai l Ser vi ces
Can you assi st wi t h t hi s r equest r ecei ved f r om t he ext er nal EPS websi t e?
S/ Sgt . J OLLY,
Fr om: 8PS - Mai n ( Gr oup)
Sent : Mar ch 7, 2011 08: 50
To: Debbi e J ol l y
Thanks!
Deb
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6. On 10 Aug 11, Mr BEES' br ot her , _. .
st at ed when he was about si x year ~ nln.
i nt er act i on wi t h a babysi t t er , ut
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5. On 9 Aug 11, was cont ac~p. d and an
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par t i ci pat i ng i n an i nt er vi ew wi t h i nvest i gat or s.
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4. On 28 J un 11, .3 si st er , r- was cont act ed and she
i nf or med t hat her br ot her had been sexual l y assaul t ed by a Cat hol i c pr i est
whi l e r esi di ng at CFB Edmont on i n t he 1980s. - - - has been
ment al l y i l l si nce t hat t i me and t he sexual abuse has cau~ed hi m many
psychol ogi cal pr obl ems si nce hi s chi l dhood. She st at ed she has never
wi t nessed ( or wal ked- i n on) her br ot her sexual l y assaul t i ng anot her mal e at
anyt i me.
3. On 9 Jun 11, Mr BEESr father I -.~- - I was interviewed and he
conf i r med t hat he was i n t he CF and poscea ~o Edmont on, AB, i n 1978. He
f ur t her st at ed he hasn' t spoken t o Mr BEES si nce a phone conver sat i on t hey
had year s ago when Mr BEES t ol d hi m t hat he had been sexual l y assaul t ed by
' hi l e r esi di nq on base i n t he l at e 1970s. He al so st at ed he
has never hear d of a " " and t hat i t was t he f i r st t i me he
had hear d of hi s son bei ng sexual l y assaul t ed. He coul dn' t r emember hi r i ng
a babysi t t er af t er hi s mot her coul d no l onger wat ch hi s boys, but a f emal e
nei ghbour t hat r esi ded acr oss t he st r eet f r om t hem woul d keep an eye on t he
boys.
2. The f i r st i nci dent st ar t ed wi t h . - t ouchi ng Mr BEES' peni s
and event ual l y on ot her occasi ons pl aci ng Mr BEES' peni s i n hi s I
--- ) mouth. Mr BEESnever told -_ to stop, nor di.dhe
ever t ei L hi s f at her , as had t hr eacened Mr BEES t el l i ng hi m
t hat he woul d ki l l hi m i f he ever t ol d anyone. On a f ew ot her occasi ons,
voul d i nser t one or t wo of hi s f i nger s i nt o Mr BEES' r ect um.
Whi l e t al ki ng a bat h on one occasi on, he made Mr BEES st r oke hi s er ect
peni s. The l ast t i me he r emember ed sexual l y abusi ng hi m was
when t hey wer e i n bedr oom and ne was at t empt i ng t o i nser t
hi s peni s i n Mr BEES' r ect um, but was unsuccessf ul as Mr BEES was yel l i ng
for --- to stop as it was hurting, and due to the yelling
I'S Sl ocer came i nt o t he bedr oom and obser ved what was happenl ng.
Mr BEES i ndi cat ed t hat was t he l ast encount er wi t h I . He
r emember s s house expl odi ng f r om a gas l eak af t er t he l ast
encount er and he never saw agai n.
1. On 31 Mar 11, Mr BEES was i nt er vi ewed and he st at ed t hat he had been
sexual l y abused appr oxi mat el y 10 t i mes dur i ng t he l at e 1970s by an ol der
t eenage boy, , who had been hi r ed as a babysi t t er by hi s ( Mr
BEES' ) f at her . Mr BEES f ur t her i ndi cat ed t hat hi s younger br ot her ,
, had hi s geni t al s t ouched on one occasi on by ' hi l e
si t t i ng on a couch.
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7. Fi r e Recor ds have conf i r med t he l i ved at CFB
Edmont on, AB, on 23 J un 80, when a gas f i r e i n t he ki t chen ar ea caused
ext ensi ve damage t o t he r esi dence. s si st er ,
l at er conf i r med she was home when t he house f i r e occur r ed and haa LO move
out of t he r esi dence as a r esul t of t he damages.
st r eet f r omhi m. He was l i vi ng i n t he Namao communi t y on CFB Edmont on at
r h~ r i mp He coul d onl y r ecal l one speci f i c i nci dent , i n whi ch
col ~ t o mast ur bat e hi s er ect peni s. al so
r emember ed mast ur bat i ng , but coul dn' t r ecal l i f he
was er ect . i nf or med t hi s happened on t he l i vi ng r oomcouch of
hi s r esi dence. He coul dn' t r emember anybody el se bei ng t her e but assumed
hi s br ot her ' ( Mr BEES) must have been ar ound. has never
spoken t o Mr BEES about . chi nghi msexual l y as he t hought he
was t he onl y one. He i nf or med l i ved acr oss t he st r eet i n a
dupl ex t hat had a gas f i r e causi no al l t he wi ndows t o be boar ded up. Af t er
t he house f i r e, he never saw ~gai n.
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2. Thisinvestigationsupportstheelementsfor anoffencepunishableunder Section
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At 1330 hr s, 28 Oct 11, MCpl HANCOCK cont act ed t he Mor i nvi l l e Cr own
Pr osect uor ' s Of f i ce and l ef t a message cont ai ni ng t he updat e r egar di ng t he
Fi r e Repor t . Thi s conf i r med was l i vi ng at , CFB
Edmont on, AB, on 23 J un 80 when hi s r esl dence had an ext ensi ve gas f i r e i n
t he ki t chen ar ea.
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Cr own Pr osecut or ' s Of f i ce cont ai ni ng t he concl usi on of t he l egal r evi ew
r equest ed. I t was det er mi ned t hat pr osecut i on wasn' t r ecommended at t he
t i me due t o a l ack of evi dence i n t he 30 year ol d al l egat i on. Fur t her
r evi ew was avai l abl e shoul d new evi dence be di scover ed t o assi st i n pr ovi ng
t he al l egat i ons " beyond a r easonabl e doubt " .
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J onWerbicki, CrownProsecutor
Alberta] ustice
Edmonton Rural and Regional Response Office
Suite1110, Oxford Tower
10235- 101Street
Edmonton, AB T5J 3E9
Master CorporaI Hancock
please be advised that I have Tinally finished my review of a77 the
materia7s that you forwarded to att'ice. These incidents apparently
occurred over 30 years ago in the Edmontonarea. It involved two
young victims and a teenage perpetrator. Wehave the vague and
sometime inconsistent evidence of two menwhoare trying to remember
these experiences as best they can -- but their recollection 7eaves a
70t to be desired.
Theyounger brother, has the remote remembranceof an
incident that cou7d be a sexual assau7t but it is not that far from
the rea7mOTsexual curiosity or experimentation. Regarding all the
alleged incidents invoIvina both young boys, there is no sign OT
force or brut:a7ity a7though there apparent7y was a threat to Robbie
Bees. The fact the+ nn rnmo7aint was made to any party or a person
in authority after movedaway is very significant.
The on7y poss inilit:v of independent corroboration would be the
testimony of '. she appears to be very honest about her
brother's proo7ems w7tn this sexua7 abuse in the Church. she,
however, does not reca77 any incident where she interrupted a torm of
sexua7 abuse by her brother on one of the young peop7e. This 7eaves us
with the testimony of the two brothers as the on7y proof of the
allegations.
As you are a well aware, we require to prove our allegations 'beyond
a reasonab7e doubt' in order to secure a conviction. There is a
substantia7 7ack of evidence in this case and therefore, we would not
recommenda prosecution. IT you have any other questions regarding
this matter, or newevidence, p7ease fee7 free to contact the writer.
Thanks -- Jon
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Sent: Tuesday, 1, November, 2011 13:43
To: HANCOCK MCpl RJ @CFNIS@Edmonton
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2. Mr BEES expl ai ned t hat he was avai l abl e f or i nt er vi ews on Tuesdays and
Sat ur days and a t ent at i ve dat e of 15 Mar 11, was schedul ed. Mr BEES was
sat i sf i ed wi t h t he i nvol vement of t he CFNI S i nvest i gat i ng and advi sed t hat
he woul d be wi l l i ng t o at t end a downt own Vancouver Pol i ce Depar t ment at any
schedul ed i nt er vi ew. MS DUMAS advi sed Mr BEES t hat he woul d be cont act ed
pr i or t o 11 Mar 11, t o conf i r m t he i nt er vi ew appoi nt ment .
c. he was unsur e of t he age of but descr i bed hi m as bei ng i n
hi s l at e t eens, whi l e he was ei ght year s of age.
b. hi s babysi t t er at t he t i me, whi ch he i dent i f i ed as
r esi ded acr oss t he st r eet f r om hi s r esi dence, near a PMQ t hat had been
dest r oyed by a nat ur al gas expl osi on; and
a. Mr BEES r esi ded at - Lancast er Par k, AB, at t he t i me of
t he al l eged sexual assaul t s, whi ch occur r ed bet ween 1979 and 1980;
1. At 1040 hr s, 8 Mar 11, MS DUMAS cont act ed Mr BEES at hi s r esi dence i n
Vancouver , BC. Dur i ng t hi s audi o r ecor ded t el ephone conver sat i on, MS DUMAS
l ear ned t he f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
INVESTIGA TIVE ACTIVITY
BEES BOBBIE GARNET
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2. Al l maps pr ovi ded have been at t ached t o t hi s t ext box as an el ect r oni c
i mage and have f ur t her been ent er ed i nt o evi dence f or saf ekeepi ng.
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g. she pr ovi ded a map of t he PMQ' s l ocat ed on base, CFB Edmont on, AB, and
a map of t he PMQ' s whi ch wer e l ocat ed i n Gr i esbach, Edmont on, AB.
f . she woul d not have r ecor ds of t enant s t hat occupi ed any PMQ' s pr evi ous
t o 1996, as when CFHA came i nt o ef f ect i n 1996, al l r ecor ds pr evi ous wer e
dest r oyed and no copi es wer e kept ; and
e. she f ur t her st at ed t hat ar ound 2003, some ol d PMQ' s l ocat ed i n
Gr i esbach, Edmont on, AB, wer e r emodel ed and al so r emoved f r om t hei r
l ocat i on and i t i s possi bl e t hat t hey coul d have had st r uct ur al suppor t
f r ames on t he i nsi de bef or e bei ng pl aced ont o a t r uck t o be moved;
d. she al so conf i r med t hat no PMQ on base, CFB Edmont on, AB, has ever been
i nvol ved i n st r uct ur al damage i n whi ch st r uct ur al f r ames woul d have been
ut i l i zed and mor e speci f i cal l y i n 2003 ( whi ch was t he year t hat Mr BEES
st at ed i n hi s i nt er vi ew t hat he had at t ended CFB Edmont on, AB, and had
not i ced whi l e l ooki ng t hr ough t he wi ndow of t he ol d PMQ whi ch he r esi ded i n
havi ng st r uct ur al f r ami ng on t he i nsi de) ;
c. she r emember s a PMQ on base bei ng i nvol ved i n a f i r e, but whi ch was
compl et el y dest r oyed and f ul l y t hor n down;
b. she conf i r med t hat a PMQ l ocat ed on base, CFB Edmont on, AB, was never
i nvol ved i n an expl osi on, but r emember s t hat a PMQ l ocat ed i n Gr i esbach,
Edmont on, AB, was i nvol ved i n a gas expl osi on ar ound 1985 or 1986 i n whi ch
t wo ( 2) chi l dr en had di ed. Mr s EWEL coul d not r emember s t hei r names but
r emember s t hat t hat news had made t he f r ont page of t he Edmont on Sun;
a. she has been wor ki ng f or CFHA si nce 1992;
1. At 0935 hr s, 28 Apr 11, MCpl CYR at t ended t he Canadi an For ces Housi ng
Agency ( CFHA) , CFB Edmont on, AB, and spoke wi t h Mr s EWEL, Cust omer Ser vi ce
Repr esent at i ve. Dur i ng t hi s conver sat i on, Mr s EWEL pr ovi ded t he f ol l owi ng
i nf or mat i on:
INVESTIGATIVE ACTIVITY
ATTEND CFHA EDMONTON
Author: 5161 CYR, CHRISTIAN
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c. new st r eet s have been added and ol d st r eet s have been dest r oyed, whi ch
do not mat ch t he map t hat was pr ovi ded by Mr s EWEL.
b. many of t he houses, whi ch wer e on t he map pr ovi ded by Mr s EWEL have
been t hor n down and do not exi st anymor e; and
a. t he houses l ocat ed i n t hi s ar ea ar e al l br and new houses and ar e not
r emodel ed ol d PMQ' s;
1. At 1015 hr s, 28 Apr 11, accompani ed by MCpl HANCOCK, MCpl CYR at t ended
t he ol d PMQ ar ea l ocat ed i n Gr i esbach, Edmont on, AB, ( 97t h St ) . MCpl CYR
speci f i cal l y at t ended 101 and l Ol A St and not ed t he f ol l owi ng:
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2. MCpl CYR l ef t al l appr opr i at e cont act i nf or mat i on f or a cal l back when
and i f t he r equi r ed i nf or mat i on i s f ound.
b. i f t hi s was a maj or ar t i cl e i t woul d possi bl y have been wr i t t en i n t he
Edmont on J our nal as wel l , i n whi ch t hey do have ar t i cl es dat ed i n t he mi d
1980' s, but t hat i t woul d t ake a f ew days t o conduct t he r esear ch.
a. t he ar t i cl es kept on f i l e f r om t he Edmont on Sun onl y dat e back t o t he
begi nni ng of 1990; and
1. At 1334 hr s, 28 Apr 11, MCpl CYR cont act ed t he Edmont on Sun Resear ch
Depar t ment t o i nqui r e about an ar t i cl e t hat woul d have been i n t he news f or
t he house expl osi on i n Gr i esbach, Edmont on, AB, t hat Mr s EWEL had
r ef er enced. MCpl CYR was i nf or med t he St anl ey Mi l ner Publ i c Li br ar y,
Edmont on, AB, woul d be a bet t er cont act f or t he r equi r ed i nf or mat i on as
t hey hol d al l ol d ar t i cl es. Once MCpl CYR was t r ansf er ed, t he f ol l owi ng
i nf or mat i on was pr ovi ded:
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c. i f copi es needed t o be made f or t he i nvest i gat i on, MCpl CYR woul d be
r equi r ed t o at t end t he St anl ey Mi l ner Publ i c Li br ar y t o r et r i eve t hem.
b. t hey do have r ecor ds f r om t he Edmont on Sun on mi cr of i l m dat i ng back t o
t he mi d 1970' s; and
i i ) dat ed 17 Nov 86, t i t l ed " no danger Gr i esbach f ami l y" .
i ) dat ed 16 Nov 86, t i t l ed " 2 t eens di e i n house expl osi on" ; and
a. t hey had f ound t wo ar t i cl es i n t he Edmont on J our nal maki ng r ef er ence t o
t he r equi r ed sear ch whi ch descr i bed t he f ol l owi ng:
1. At 1451 hr s, 28 Apr 11, MCpl CYR r ecei ved a phone cal l f r om t he St anl ey
Mi l ner Publ i c Li br ar y, Edmont on, AB, i n r ef er ence t o a sear ch t hey wer e
conduct i ng f or t hi s i nvest i gat i on. The f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on was pr ovi ded:
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3. Al l appr opr i at e cont act i nf or mat i on f or MCpl CYR was l ef t wi t h
st at ed t hat he woul d make al l possi bl e at t empt s t o
f i nd t he year books and cont act MCpl CYR when and i f he f ound t hem.
d. one of hi s t eacher s at t he t i me i s st i l l an act i ve subst i t ut e t eacher
at t he Gut hr i e School . He f ur t her st at ed t hat i f t he year books coul d not
hel p, t hat he woul d get t he cont act i nf or mat i on f or t he subst i t ut e t eacher .
c. he bel i eves t hat he mi ght st i l l have school year books f r om al l of hi s
year s of at t endance at t he Gut hr i e school ; and
b. he does not r emember a house expl osi on on base but does r ecal l t he one
house t hat expl oded i n Gr i esbach, Edmont on, AB;
a. he does not r emember t he mal e name but does r emember t he mal e name
whom al so had an ol der si st er but coul d not r emember her name;
2. MCpl CYR was t hen i nf or med t hat ,
w~s a st udent at t he school at t he t i me. MCpl CYR t hen spoKe wi t h
who pr ovi ded t he f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
1. At 1510 hr s, 28 Apr 11, MCpl CYR at t ended t he Gut hr i e School , CFB
Edmont on, AB, i n t he at t empt t o gat her st udent i nf or mat i on f r om t he l at e
1970' s. MCpl CYR was i nf or med t hat t hose r ecor ds woul d have been dest r oyed
f r om t he school dat abase, but t he Al ber t a Lear ni ng mi ght have t hose r ecor ds
on f i l e. MCpl CYR was pr ovi ded wi t h t hei r cont act i nf or mat i on.
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2. MCpl CYR not es t hat i f t hi s i s t he same ( subj ect ) i t
woul d mean t hat was 13 year s of age at t he t i me of t he sexual
assaul t i n 1978 on Mr BEES ( vi ct i m) .
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c. t he cont act i nf or mat i on of ct i ve subst i t ut e t eacher at t he
Gut hr i e School and was a t eacher at t he Gut hr i e School when - - - was a
st udent i n 1978- 1979.
b. a copy of pi ct ur es of gr ade 7 st udent s whi ch i ncl uded t he subj ect ' s
name of and
a. a copy of t he cover page of t he 1978- 1979 Gut hr i e school year book,
whi ch i ncl uded gr ade 7, 8 and 9 onl y;
1. At 1400 hr s, 29 Apr 11, MCpl CYR at t ended t he Gut hr i e School , CFB
Edmont nn AB, and met wi t h t o gat her r equest ed i nf or mat i on.
_ . . , . : r ovi ded t he f ol l owi ng document at i on and i nf or mat i on:
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~i ch i s named above i s not
hat at t ended Gut hr i e
l i ved at CFB Edmont on i n t he l at e
i s t he same per son.
2. MCpl CYR not es t hat unt i l t he
cont act ed and asked i f he 1S t he \
School , CFB Edmont on, AB, and f ur t her
70' s, i t can not be conf i r med t hat i t
e. due t o Ont D/ L quer i es not pr ovi di ng a cont act number , MCpl CYR
r . onduct ed a Canada 411 spr t r ch whi ch r eveal ed t he cont act number of
wi t h t he same addr ess as hi s pr esent c
- r eveal ed
Lhe same pr ovi ded
d. a quer y of
t hat cesent l y has an
addr ess as hi s sur r ender ed . _i and
eal ed c. a QURcV ,...,f
t hat pr esent l y has an wi t h a
addr ess ~~~~Ch t he oper at or st at us i s Sur r ender ed;
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b.
a. a scor e of 31 of 31,
a dat e of bi r t h of
, wi t h conf i r med a name of
pr esent l y l i vi ng i n
CYR conduct ed a CP1C
The f ol l owi ng
1. At 1510 hr s, 29 Apr 11, af t er conf i r mi ng t hat a
at t ended t he Gut hr i e School , CFB Edmont on, AB, MCpl
quer y of wi t h an appr oxi mat e age of
i nf or mat i on was l ear ned:
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At 1105 hr s, 3 May 11, accompani ed by MS DUMAS, MCpl CYR at t ended t he
Ar chbi shop O' Lear y Cat hol i c Hi gh School , Edmont on, AB, and conf i r med t hat
no r ecor ds of a f emal e wi t h t he l ast name of at t ended t hat school
bet ween t he year s of 1978 and 1980 i n any gr ade, whi cn i ncl uded Gr ade 10,
11 and 12. MCpl CYR l ooked t hr ough al l ol d year books, al l of whi ch met
wi t h negat i ve r esul t s.
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4. The above ment i oned ar t i cl es have been ent er ed i nt o evi dence f or
saf ekeepi ng.
3. MCpl CYR f ur t her not es t hat what i s i dent i f i ed i n t he news ar t i cl es of
what was done t o by I ar e t he act s t hat Mr BEES st at ed t hat
i d t o hi m.
2. MCpl CYR not es t hat t he pl ai nt i f f onl y i dent i f i ed as coul d be
and al so t hat al l of t he i nf or mat i on pr ovi ded ear l i er by
Mr BEES does coi nci de ( age r ange and dat es) wi t h what i s st at ed i n t he
ar t i cl es.
, and bei ng an al t ar boy c. t he pl ai nt i f f i s onl y i dent i f i ed as
bet ween 1977 and 1980.
b. t he name of t he pr i est i n t he ar t i cl e i s _ and f ur t her
i dent i f i ed as bei ng a f or mer Cat hol i c Pr i est mor e t han 20 year s ago at t he
Lancast er Par k Mi l i t ar y Base i n Namao; and
a. newspaper ar t i cl es f r om " The Edmont on J our nal " and " Canadi an Pr ess"
dat i ng f r om 12 Apr 01, st at i ng t hat a ci t y man i s sui ng a f or mer pr i est f or
sexual abuse;
1. At 0930 hr s, 4 May 11, MCpl CYR conduct ed a Googl e sear ch of " CFB Namao
Mol est i ng Pr i est " , whi ch r eveal ed t he f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
GOOGLESEARCH
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2. Sgt CYR made cont act wi t h P02 GI ES, CFNI S WR RCl C, and i nf or med hi m of
t he above ment i oned i nf or mat i on and r equest ed hi s assi st ance i n l ocat i ng
1 ( ci vi l i an) l ocat ed i n , wi t h cont act name.
1. ~~ 1320 hr s, 28 J un 11, Sgt CYR f ound a possi bl e mat r . h f nr t he sur name
of II' I, t hr ough Out l ook ( - - - ) . I n t he
pr oper t i es f i el d t he f i r st name i s I .., WHJ.\..u ~o d. ! : , ' r ench name whi ch
~~n be shor t ened t o II n Due t o t he l ocat i on of (
, i t woul d make sense i f t he si st er l i ved wi t h her husband i n t he
, ar ea.
POSSIBLE MATCH"
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r ovi ded by Canada 411
1and as pl us havi ng a
pr evi ous i nf or mat i on pr ovi ded by
3. Sgt CYR not es t hat t he r - - ~ of
woul d make sense of havi ng as 1
CPI C check and Canada 411 mat chi ng al l
RCI C.
c.
b. ; and
a. name pr ovi ded:
2. At - 1"<<;0 hr s, 28 J un I I , Sgt CYR COI l r 111ct ed a Canada 411 check wi t h t he
name _ wi t h t he ci t y of _ The f ol l owi ng
i nf or mat i on was r eveal ed:
d. Val i d Cl ass 5 I.
and
c. 1
DOB: b.
a.
1. At 1344 hr s, 28 J un I I , Sgt CYR conduct ed a CPI C check of
wi t h t he i nf or mat i on t hat was pr ovi ded by P02 GI ES, CFNI S WR RCI C,
and f ur t her r equest ed i f a val i d dr i ver ' s l i cense exi st ed. The
f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on was r eveal ed:
INVESTIGATIVF, ACTIVITY
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4. Sgt CYR expl ai ned t o once agai n who he was and t hat hi s wi f e
mi ght have been a wi t ness t o a sexual assaul t i n t he 1980' s whi l e r esi di ng
wi t h her f at her i n Edmont on, AB ( CFBEdmont on) . Sst r YR l ef t al l
appr opr i at e cont act i nf or mat i on and r equPR~ed t h~t ask hi s wi f e
t o cont act Sgt CYR at her conveni ence. st at ed t hat he woul d pass
on t he message t o hi s wi f e upon her ar r i val f r omwor k.
3. At t hi s t i me Sgt r YR i naui r ed i f ! was avai l abl e t o speak on
t he t el ephone, whi ch _ t at ed t hat she was at wor k and woul d not be
avai l abl e unt i l l at er .
2. When a mal e answer ed t he phone, Sgt CYR asked i f he was
whi ch t he r esponse was " Yes" . At t hi s t i me Sgt CYR i dent i f i ed hi msel t and
expl ai ned t he r eason of t he phone cal l . Sgt CYR t hen i nqui r ed i f hi s
wi f e' s name was whi ch t he answer was " Yes" , and t hen i nqui r ed
i f her f at her and br ot her haa t he name of " . ., whi ch t he answer was
" Wel l , ya, we can say so" .
1. At 1402 hr s, 28 J un 11, Sgt CYR cont act ed, vi a t el ephone,
wi t h t he pr ovi ded number by Canada 411.
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f . i n 1979 she l ef t Edmont on, AB, wi t h her f ami l y t o Pet awawa, ON, and di d
not r et ur n t o Edmont on, AB, unt i l 1986 and conf i r med not t o have come back
t o vi si t her f ami l y unt i l she per manent l y moved back t o Edmont on, AB, i n
1986.
( now Mr BEES) ; and e. she does not r emember t he name of
d. she never wi t nessed ( wal ked- i n on) her br ot her sexual l y assaul t i ng
anot her mal e at anyt i me;
c. she i s ol der t han her br ot her ;
1;
si nce t hat t i me and t hat sexual b. her br ot her has been
assaul t had caused hi m
a. she conf i r med t o be t he si st er of . _" . and f ur t her conf i r med
t hat her br ot her had been sexual l y assaul t ed by a cat hol i c pr i est whi l e
r esi di ng at CFB Edmont on i n t he 1980' s;
1. At 1730 hr s, 28 J un 11, ) nt act ed Sgt CYR on hi s wor k
bl ackber r y. Sgt CYR conduct ed a phone i nt er vi ew wi t h i n
r el at i on t o t hi s i nvest i gat i on. Dur i ng t he phone i nt er vi ew,
pr ovi ded t he f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
PHONE INTERVIEW I
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7 phone cal l s t o hi s Bl ackBer r y f r om Mr BEES dur i ng whi ch i t was obvi ous
t hat - , - - . . . 1...~
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st at i ng ,
At 2143 hr s, 18 J ul 11 Mr BEES aqai n cont act ed WO HART vi a emai l
_ . . ' Pl ease Ca. l . lme on my cel l at
________ . ) or pr ovi de me wi t h a number wher e you can be r eached
and we can di scuss t hi ngs f ur t her . ~ WO HART t hen depar t ed hi s r esi dence
and at t ended t he CFNI S WR of f i ce.
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v _ _ ~ u Upon r ece1. v1. ngtm. s message : : , : ' HART
i mmedi at el y cont act ed MWO E1. senmenger t o i nf or m hi m of what had t r anspi r ed
bef or e sendi ng Mr BEES t he f ol l owi ng message: ~Mr Bees. I don' t know why
you ar e maki ng t hese assumpt i ons. I mer el y st at ed t hat I amper sonal l y not
i nvol ved i n your i nvest i gat i on and t hat t he case manager woul d be i n t ouch
wi t h you i n t he mor ni ng r egar di ng wer e t hi nqs st and. )
At 2114 hr s, 18 J ul 11 Mr BEES agai n cont act ed WO HART vi a emai l
st at i ng:
At 20 35 hr s, 18 J ul 11 Mr BEES agai n cont act ed WO HART vi a emai l
st at i ng: ~Thank you f or t he i nf or mat i on. I n l i ght of t hese changes I am
r equest i ng t he cont act i nf or mat i on f or a super i or of f i cer at NI S t o whom I
can f or war d a compl ai nt t o. ~ WO HART r esponded t o Mr BEES wi t h t he
f ol l owi ng: ~I n wi l l gl adl y pr ovi de t hat i nf or mat i on t o you i n t he mor ni ng.
I unf or t unat el y do not have i t at my di sposal at t hi s t i me. ~
At 2008 hr s, 18 J ul 11 Mr BEES cont act ed WO HART vi a emai l r equest i ng a
meet i ng t o di scuss t he st at us of t he i nvest i gat i on i nt o hi s compl ai nt .
Upon r ecei vi ng t he r equest WO HART r et ur ned Mr BEES emai l st at i ng he was
post ed and was no l onger t he Case Manager f or CFNI S WR f i l es however he
woul d have t he new Case Manager cont act Mr BEES i n t he mor ni ng t o di scuss
t he i nvest i gat i on and answer any quest i ons he may have.
WELFARE CHECK - Mr BEES
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A copy of al l emai l s sent and r ecei ved bet ween Mr BEES and WO HART dur i ng
t hi s exchange ar e scanned as an i mage t o t hi s t ext box.
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r el ay t hi s i nf or mat i on t o t he
uni t at t end
~. I t i s
however conf i r mat i on wi l l be
cl ear ed.
::.:rSiEg hi . sCl t : : ! i : 3. K phone WO HART was abl e t o
Vancouver Pol i ce di spat cher who i n t ur n had a
wher e Mr BEES was l ocat er l wi t - h~n t he
not bel i eved t hat
r ecei ved f r om VPD unce t hei r Unl CS navt : : !
Gi ven Mr BEES' s hi s i nsi st i ng on t al ki ng i t
was vi r t ual l y i mpossi bl e f or WO HART t o speak wi t h Mr BEES and he
r epeat edl y di sconnect ed t he phone connect i on wi t h WO HART. Over t i me WO
HART was abl e t o gl ean f r om Mr BEES t hat he was t al ki na on hi s cel l phone
and t hat he was cur r ent l y on t r o cd-v-ooi- ""i- 0'; rlQ of
wher e he wor ked as c . ~~ 1rBE: ; : : ; : : ; st at ea t hat
f ucki ng mor e or l ess. I f ucki ng compl ai n and t hey get away scot t f r ee
whi l e I get l abel l ed a f ucki ng cr ackpot . "
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I wi l l gl adl y pr ovi de t hat i nf or mat i on t o you i n t he mor ni ng. I unf or t unat el y do not have
To:
- - - - - Or i gi na1 Message- - - - -
f r om: <BLAI R. HART@f or ces. gc. ca>
Dat ~ Mnn. 18 J ul 2011 20: 38: 42
Bobbi e Gar net Bees.
~~~' t , , : or r y.
- - - - - Or i ei nal Messaqe - - - - -
Fr om:
To: Hart wu OI\~\""rl".l.:l~;::......unvlJ\".v"
Sent : Mon J ul 18 21: 14: 26 2011
Subj ect : Re: Revi e' , ' of case st at us.
Sent f r ommy wi r el ess h~ndhel d devi ce / Tr ansmi s de mon appar ei l por t abl e
Of f i ce: 780- 973- 4011 ext 5232
Cel l ul ar : 780- 232- 5937
Fax: 780- 973- 1648
CSN: 528- 5232
Oper at i ons I ' l ar r antOf f i cer
CFNI S vl est er nRegi on
Bui l di ng 304
P. O Box 10500
Edmont on, AB, Canada, TSJ 4J S
~~~ase ca~~ me on my ce~~ CL l~v-l~L-~~-~,
'1 be r eached and Vi ecan di scuss t hi ngs f ur t her . pr ov1. 0eme
f or
I don' t know why you ar e maki ng t hese assumpt i ons. I mer el y st at ed t hat I am per sonal l y
not i nvol ved i n your i nvest i gat i on and t hat t he case manager woul d be in t ouch wi t h you i n
t he mor ni ng r egar di ng wher e t hi ngs st and.
Mr Bees
Fr om: <BLAI R. HART@f or ces. gc. ca>
Date: ,....- ...... - ., ..... 1"1." ?' ?t::.:Ol
To:
Subj ect : Re: Revi ew of case st at us.
No" , I know why my f at her dr ankm,
Monday, 18, J uly, 201121:43
Hart WOBR@CFNIS@Edmonton
Re: Reviewof case status.
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Dese : EMAILS BETWEEN MR BEES AND WO HART Ref#: 18 JUL 11
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Of f i ce: 780- 973- 4011 ext 5232
Cel l ul ar : 780- 232- 5937
Oper at i ons War r ant Of f i cer
CE" NI Svl est er nRegi on
Bui l di ng 304
P. O Box 10500
Thank you and someone f r om our of f i ce wi l l be i n t ouch.
I n r egar ds t o t he physi cal l ocat i on of our of f i ce we ar e nor t h of t he ci t y on CFB Edmont on
pr oper , at what was pr evi ousl y r ef er r ed t o as t he Lancast er Par k si t e.
I wi l l f or war d your emai l on t o my r epl acement who wi l l be i n t ouch t o di scuss t he st at us
of t he i nvest i gat i on. I woul d r ecommend t hat you not make pl ans t o at t end Edmont on at
t hi s t i me unt i l you ar e cont act ed.
I ampost ed out of t he Edmont on of f i ce and as such I am no l onger act i vel y case managi ng
i nvest i gat i ons. As wel l , MCpl Cyr has been r eassi gned f r om t hi s of f i ce and your
i nvest i gat i on has been r eassi gned.
Mr Bees
E" r om: <BLAI R. HART@f or ces. gc. ca>
Dat e' M( l n. J . 8.c' " " 11 20: 18: 12
To:
Subj ect : Ke: kev~ew ~t case s. a. I S.
Thank you f or t he i nf or mat i on.
I n l i ght of t hese changes I am r equest i ng t he cont act i nf or mat i on f or a super i or of f i cer
at NI S t o whom I can f or war d a compl ai nt t o.
- - - - - nr i gi nal Messaqe - - - - -
From: 1'- .i..... ... ......:
To: Hart ~;(.,at(~c.;Fr...IS~ba.iTtont.o:); !
Sent : Mon J ul 18 20: 35: 20 2011
Subj ect : Re: Revi ew of case st at us.
Sent f r ommy wi r el ess handhel d devi ce / Tr ansmi s de man appar ei l por t abl e
Of f i ce: 780- 973- 4011 ext 5232
Cel l ul ar : 780- 232- 5937
Fax: 780- 973- 1648
CSN: 528- 5232
CE" NI S~I est er nRegi on
Bui l di ng 304
P. O Box 10500
Edmont on, AB, Canada, TSJ 4J 5
Thank you
i t at my di sposal at t hi s t i me.
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Thank you f or your at t ent i on t o t hi s mat t er .
As we seem t o have i ssues communi cat i ng vi a t el ephone I r equest t hat you r epl y vi a emai l .
As t he i nvest i gat i on i s pr obabl y i n i t ' s pr el i mi nar y st ages I don' t f or esee needi ng t o
t ake anymor e t hat one t o t wo hour s of your t i me. I f possi bl e I woul d l i ke t o have Mcpl .
Chr i st i an Cyr i n at t endance.
W/o Bl ai r Har t , I am r equest i ng a meet i ng . l i t hyou t o go over t he pr ogr ess of t he
i nvest i gat i on i n my case t o dat e.
I wi l l need t o t ake a day or t Vi Oof f f r om wor k i n or der t o t r avel up t o Edmont on.
I am t ent at i vel y pl anni ng f or Fr i day August 12t h. Thi s . l i l l al l ow me enough t i me t o not i f y
wor k and al so f or me t o ar r ange a f l i ght and hot el r oom.
I am cor r ect i n assumi ng t hat t he NI S of f i ces ar e on what was f or mer l y knoVi nt o me as CFa
Namao, cor r ect ?
Ei t her way I wi l l need di r ect i ons. For t he t i me bei ng I am pl anni ng on st ayi ng i n t he ci t y
of Edmont on and Vl i l l ei t her r ent a car or t ake a cab, whi ch ever i s cheaper .
- - - - - Or i gi nal Messaae - - - - -
Fr om: Bobbi e Bees
To: Har t WO BR@CFN1S~~amon~on;
Sent : Mon J ul 18 20: 06: 18 2011
SUbj ect : Revi ew of case st at us.
Sent f r om my wi r el ess handhel d devi ce I Tr ansmi s de mon appar ei l por t abl e
Fax: 780- 973- 1648
CSN: 528- 5232
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Commln1on d'~X3me<l des pl aint'"
con~~rnantta~~{ic~~1.l i!~~te
RECEIVED
HART, Bl ai r
WAR R ANTOFFICER
CFNI S WR ( Mi l i t ar y Pol i ce) , Edmont on, AS
780- 232- 5937
* * * * * * * PLEASE R EPLY TO OR !: AB80016* * * * * * * * * * *
Al l avai l abl e i nf o f r om t hi s of f i ce has al r eady been passed on t o your
di spat ch, VPD f i l e #VA 11- 113444 r ef er s and t hi s CPI C message i s i nt ended
t o be a f ol l ow- up conf i r mat i on of our phone cal l t o your di spat ch. Any f ur t her
i nqui r i es can be di r ect ed t o t he under si gned at any t i me.
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a.t... \-.uc:
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f r ont of
physj . . . . . . . . . . ' l J escr i nt ; i oni s avai l aD. Le at : :t : : n~s
hi s r and may cur r ent l y
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i n or der t o ensur e hi s
The- i ndi vi dual i ni t i al i y cl ai med t o
however now cl ai ms t o cur r ent l y be i n
I wher e he ' ' 0r ks. No
~i me however he i~ .~
I ndi vi dual has compl ai ned t o t hi s of f i ce of bei ng t he vi ct i m of a sexual
assaul t i n t he 1970s ( our f i l e #GO 11 "'.. "'" \ Tf_ .... -- ....--~ .... +- nl 1chwi t h t hi s
of f i ce numer ous t i mes t hi s eveni no.
Bobbi e Bees, a r esi dent of Thi s of f i ce is r equest i ng c
your j ur i sdi ct i on l i vi ng at
* * THI S IS A R EPEAT OF AN EAR LIER MESSAGEAS IT IS BEL.1;EVEDTHE EAR LIER
ATTEMPTS FAI LED* *
TO: Vancouver PD
FROM: CFNI S WR - Edmont on, AB
SEND MT: D FROM: AB90233
TO: BC30012
SUBJ : Request f or Wel f ar e Check
TEXT:
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BI SCHLER, J UDI TH
CFNI S WR TEAM B
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WO Har t was abl e t o br eak i nt o t he conver sat i on and conf i r m t hat Mr
BEES was unhar med, had been seen by medi cal st af f and had al so been spoken
t o by VPD member s and was cur r ent l y under super vi si on by hospi t al secur i t y
st af f . Mr BEES pr ovi ded no ot her i nf or mat i on i n r el at i on t o hi s cur r ent
di sposi t i on and cont i nued t o r emar k how he was goi ng t o be f i r ed t omor r ow
because he has t o wor k wi t h t he peopl e: . and he ( Mr BEES)
event ual l y abr upt l y t er mi nat ed t he conver sat i on agai n and hung up t he
phone.
" Nobody car es. I t r y t o r epor t what was done t o me and MCpl CYR br i ngs
up I ' d f ucki ng f or got t en hi m and al l I want ed t o do was l i ve a
nor mal l i f e. Go t o school , gr aduat e hi gh school , j oi n t he ar my and have a
good l i f e t hen al l t hi s shi t happens t o me. "
" The mi l i t ar y pol i ce i s onl y good f or t r yi ng t o cover t hi ngs up. I ' ve
t al ked t o peopl e on t he i nt er net and t hey al l say al l you do i s wat ch out
and pr ot ect t he mi l i t ar y. You ( WO HART) get t r ansf er ed i n and out of my
case, MCpl CYR get s t r ansf er ed away, MCpl Hi scock ( Hancock) get s t r ansf er ed
out . Nobody f ucki ng car es about my f i l e. "
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At 2337 hr s, l 8 J ul I I Mr BEES at t empt ed t o cont act WO HART on hi s
Bl ackBer r y however t he cal l was not compl et ed. A moment l at er a second
~al l came f r om Mr BEES dur i ng whi ch he st at ed wor ds t o t he ef f ect of :
TELCON - Mr BEES
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At 1605 hr s, 28 J ul 11, Mr BEES t el ephoned POl MORRI S. Mr BEES st ?~Q~ r h~r
we had cont act ed t he Cour t of Queens Bench, Edmont on and had t he _
Fi l e seal ed t o pr event hi m f r om obt ai ni ng a copy of i t . POl MORRI S i nf or mea
MR BEES t hat CFNI S had not cont act ed t he Cour t s i n Edmont on. Mr BEES
cont i nued t o t al k about t he case and was upset about t he handover of t he
f i l e t o 5 di f f er ent i nvest i gat or s. POl MORRI S i nf or med MR BEES t hat we wer e
st i l l i nvest i gat i ng t he f i l e.
Telcon with Mr Bees
Author: 4231 MORRIS, STEVE
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At 1315 hr s, 9 Aug 11, cal l ed MCpl HANCOCK and i nf or med t hat
he woul dn' t be par t i ci pat i ng i n an i nt er vi ew wi t h i nvest i gat or s. When asked
i f he woul d be wi l l i ng t o meet t o speak about an al l egat i on br ought agai nst
hi m he sai d, ' no. ' He f ur t her i ndi cat ed t hat anyt hi ng he had been i nvol ved
i n as a yout h had ' al r eady been handl ed by t he mi l i t ar y' . He st at ed i f
r h~r nQq ~Q_Q ~o be br ought agai nst hi m, ' a l awyer woul d be handl i ng t hat . '
___________. . : : onf i r medhi s par t i cul ar s and cont act i nf or mat i on pr i or t o
endi ng t he phone cal l .
INVESTIGATTVlf . .:.\ rTTvITY
Contact, . _. _
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At 1135 hr s, 10 Aug 11, MCnl H~N~n~Kand MCpl J ODREY at t ended
l ast known addr ess of , Edmont on, AB. I t was conf i r med
wi t h t he bl dg manager t hat ' name was st i l l on t he l ease. A
knock on t he door of apar t ment was met wi t h negat i ve r esul t s. A cal l t o
hi s phone number was answer ed by a message manager . MCpl HANCOCK pl aced
busi ness car ds under t he door t o t he apar t ment and i n t he mai l box at t ached
t o t he mai n l obby i n an at t empt t o cr eat e f ut ur e cont act wi t h
Attend .sidence
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At 1122 hr s, 15 Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK cont act ed t he CFB Edmont on Deput y Fi r e
Chi ef , MWO MURPHY, and r equest ed i nf or mat i on on a house f i r e t hat occur r ed
i n t he CFB Edmont on Namao PMQ ar ea i n t he l at e 1970' s. He conduct ed a
sear ch of t he ol d r epor t s and l ogs at t he CFB Edmont on Fi r e Hal l . The
r esul t of t he sear ch r eveal ed t he on si t e ar chi ved i nf or mat i on onl y dat ed
back t o 1996. MWO MURPHY pr ovi ded cont act i nf or mat i on t o t he CF Fi r e
Mar shal l Of f i ce as t he ol der r epor t s mi ght st i l l be hel d i n Ot t awa, ON.
Contact Fire Hall
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At 1135 hr s, 15 Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK at t ended CE at CFB Edmont on t o i nqui r e
i f t he cont r act t o f i x a Namao PMQ af t er a bi g house f i r e was st i l l on
f i l e. I t was l ear ned t he cont r act s at CE ar e onl y hel d f or 10 year s bef or e
t hey ar e dest r oyed. No r ecor d of r epai r i ng a PMQ af t er a house f i r e i n t he
l at e 1970' s coul d be l ocat ed.
Attend CE Contracts
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At 1415 hr s, 15 Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK at t empt ed t o cont act t he CF Fi r e
Mar shal l Of f i ce but was met wi t h negat i ve r esul t s. A message wi t h cont act
i nf or mat i on was l ef t r equest i ng a cal l back.
Attempt contact CFFMO
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2. At 1421 hr s, 25 Aug 11, Mr PAGE emai l ed MCpl HANCOCK back i ndi cat i ng he
woul d l ook i n t he ol d f i r e r epor t i ng dat a bank t o see i f he coul d f i nd
anyt hi ng i n r el at i on t o t he r equest .
1. At 1405 hr s, 25 Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK sent an emai l t o Mr PAGE
r equest i ng f i r e r epor t r ecor ds f r om t he CFB Edmont on Lancast er Par k PMQ
ar ea f r om 1979- 1980.
Request Fire Records
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At 1109 hr s, 1 Sep 11, MCpl HANCOCK obt ai ned 1980 Fi r e St at i st i cs f r om Mr
PAGE i ndi cat i ng a house f i r e occur r ed at PMQ i n J un 80, whi ch may have
been r hp n~~ f i r e/ expl osi on Mr BEES and r emember ed happeni ng at
t he , r esi dence. Mr PAGE i nf or med he woul d at t empt t o l ocat e t he
act ual f i r e r epor t dr af t ed by t he CFB Edmont on Fi r e Dept i n 1980 f r om t he
ar chi ves t o assi st i n conf i r mi ng i f i t was t he f i r e t hey r emember ed.
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FIRE MARSHALLS OFFICE
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ANNUAL
STATISTICAL
REPORT
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CANADIAN FORCES ..FIRE

MARSHAL
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iii
Department
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III Canada
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Li eut enant Col onel
Canadi an For ces Fi r e Mar shal
I n concl usi on we must cont i nue t o b e cog ni z ant of t he f act f ew
t hi ng s i ndeed ar e as f i nal as t he r esul t s of a f i r e whi ch undoub t edl y
r ep r esent s t he v er y ul t i mat e of wast e. Iti s a messag e t hat t hose who
ar e concer ned must ex hor t t o al l .
I am conf i dent t hat t he i ni t i at i v es out l i ned ab ov e comb i ned wi t h
t he cont i nuous ef f or t s of a1 1 concer ned, t hat I am s. ur ewi 1 1 b e f or t hcom-
i ng , l ' I i 1 1ser v e us ~/e11. I n t hat l i g ht I l ook f or war d wi t h ant i ci p at i on
t o 1 9 8 2 I ' l hent he p osi t i v e ef f ect s coul d wel l t e r ef l ect ed i n our annual
st at i st i cs. S houl d t hat b e t he case we coul d t ak e f ur t her p r i de i n our
al r eady env i ab l e r ecor d.
S t at i st i cs i ndi cat e an i ncr ease i n t he numb er of f i r es as comp ar ed
t o 1 9 7 9 howev er , a g ener al downwar d t r end of f i r es and f i r e l osses ov er
t he p ast t en y ear s r ef l ect t he ef f ect i v eness of f i r e saf et y educat i on
p r og r ams, l oss l i mi t i ng eng i neer i ng f eat ur es and consi st ent enf or cement .
I n sup p or t of t hi s t he I nsp ect or Cour se wi l l b e of f er ed as adj ust ment
t r ai ni ng t o sel ect ed Mast er War r ant Of f i cer s, Chi ef War r ant Of f i cer s
and Commi ssi oned Of f i cer s. I n addi t i on, a new Fi r e l oss P ' r ev ent i on
Rep or t was dev el op ed t o ser v e as a f r amewor k f or a comp r ehens i v e f i r e
l oss p r ev ent i on p r og r am and t o r ep 1 a. cet he Fi r e P r ev ent i on Cont est Al b um.
T he new r ep or t i s desi g ned t o p r ov i de an who hav e sp eci al r esp onsi b i l i t y
f or , or i nt er est i n, t he cr i t i cal l y i mp or t ant ef f or t s needed t o p r ev ent
l oss of l i f e or t he dest r uct i on of p r op er t y b y f i r e wi t h a comp r ehensi v e
anal y si s.
T he dol l ar l oss b y cause showed a si g ni f i cant dr op wi t h t he
ex cep t i on of el ect r i cal shor t ci r cui t s. T hi s shar p i ncr ease was di r ect l y
r el at ed t o t he l oss of a b ar r ack b l ock whi ch account ed f or 5 0 % of t he
1 9 8 0 dol l ar l oss.
Reg r et f ul l y I must r ep or t one mal e f at al i t y i n 1 9 8 0 . T he deceased
was a p at i ent i n a hosp i t al .
T he most f r eq uent cause of fir e cont i nues t o b e car el ess smok i ng ,
account i ng f or 2 1 % ( down f r om 2 8 %) . Ot her l eadi ng causes i ncl ude wi l l f ul
i ncendi ar i sm 1 2 % ( down f r om 1 4 %) , el ect r i cal shor t ci r cui t s i n st r uct ur es
and v ehi cl es 8 % ( up f r om 6 %) and car el ess use of cook i ng oi l , g r ease, f at
and wax 7 % ( eq ual t o 1 9 7 9 ) .
S t at i st i cs f or 1 9 8 0 comp i l ed f r om t he All I ncl usi v e Fi r es and
l oss Recor d, r ef l ect a 2 0 % i ncr ease i n t he numb er of f i r es and 3 6 . 5 %
i ncr ease i n t he Base Y ear ( 1 9 7 1 ) dol l ar l oss. T he shar p r i se i n dol l ar
l oss r esul t ed f r om one f i r e i n whi ch a b ar r ack b l ock and cont ent s wer e
t ot al l y dest r oy ed, whi l e t he i ncr ease i n t he numb er of f i r es i s a r esul t
of mor e i nci dent s i nv ol v i ng p r i v at e t r ansp or t at i on, si ng l e and mar r i ed
q uar t er s.
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Bui l di ng c o ns t r uc t i o n c o s t i nde x e s f o r ma t e r i a l a nd l a bo ur , s uppl i e d by ST AT I ST I CS
CANADA, who us e d 1971 a s a ba s e 100, ha v e be e n a ppl i e d t o a c t ua l do l l a r l o s s e s t o
c o nv e r t a l l l o s s v a l ue s t o 1971 do l l a r s .
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T o t a l $ L o s s
Av e r a ge J L o s s
P e r F i r e
, Y e a r
No . o f Va l ue a t Ri s k ~ Va l ue Ba s e Y e a r ~ Va l ue Ba s e Y e a r
l
F i r e s
a t T i me ( 1971) a t T i me ( 1971 )
o f F i r e $ Va l ue o f F i r e . $ Va l ue
,
I 1971 413
T hi s s t a t i s t i c no t
1, 152, 644
1 , 152, 644 2, 791 2, 791
1972 364 . .
c o l l e c t e d pr i o r t o
2, 221, 773 2, 115, 974
6, 104 5, 813
1973
326
1976
567, 394
502, 119 1, 740 1, 540
1974
337
1, 233, 537
986, 830 3, 660 2, 928
1975
301
609, 062
438, 174 2, 023 1, 455
1976
281
5, 529, 902
721, 689
484, 355 2, 568 1, 723
1977
267
10, 454, 913
392, 605
243, 854 1, 470 913
, 1978
266
71, 562, 599
1, 066, 861
609, 935 4, 011 2, 292
1979
224
370, 667, 058
660, 240 345, 675 2, 948 1, 543
, 198O
258
1, 254, 046, 967
1, 112, 094
529, 569
4, 310 2, 052
l
r
AVERAGE $ L OSS
973, 790 740, 883 3, 163 2, 305
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1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
~ Numbe r o f F i r e s
$21000, 000
~ L o s s e s Ex pr e s sar
- - ~~i n Ba s e Y e a r
~ ~. ( 1971) $ Va l ue
. .
300 F i r e s
!
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$1, 000 , 000
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F i r e s a nd L o s s e s
10 Y EAR COMP ARAT I VE RECORD
F i r e s a nd L o s s e s Ex c e pt Mi l i t a r y Ope r a t i o ns
a nd Ma no e uv r e s a nd P r i v a t e T r a ns po r t a t i o n
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TOTAL $LOSS
AVERAGE $LOSS
I
PER FI RE
Y e a r No _ o f ~ VALUE AT BASE Y EAR $ VALUE AT BASE Y EAR
Fj r - e s TI ME OF FI RE ( 1971) $ VALUE TI ME OF FI RE ( 1971) $ VALUE
71
72
73 St a t i s t i c s Una a i l a bl e
74
75 21 98, 022 70, 519 4, 668 3, 358
76 24 34, 227 22, 971 1, 426 957
77 25 66, 361 41, 218 2, 654 1 , 648
78 25 264, 230 150, 989 10, 569 6, 039
79 18 124, 100 64, 974 6, 894 3, 609
80 19 55, 908 26, 623 2, 943 1, 401
6 Y R AVERAGE $ LOSS 107, 141 62, 882 4, 859 2, 835
1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
10 Fi r e s
$50, 000
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20 Fi r e s
$100, 000
30 Fi r e s
$150, 000
~- Numbe r o f Fi r e s
~- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - , ~
Lo s s e s Ex pr e s
o E- i n Ba s e Y e a r
( 1971) $ Va l ue
Fi r e s a nd Lo s s e s - 6 Y e a r Re c o r d
MI LI TARY OPERATI ONS AND MANOEUVRES
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Fi res and Losses - 2 Y ear Record
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r , " m b " of F;"~
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Losses Expressed
~ in Base Y ear
- (1971)$ViJ 1ue
-_. ._-----
$30,000
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. _
-
25 Fires
...
$20,000
15 Fires
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$10,000
5 Fi res
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II;
!
1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
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-
_. TOTAL $ LOSS AVERAGE$ LOSS ]
PER FI RE .
Y ear No . o f $VALlJ CAT-[i7iSEY TI fR---h-VALUE AT - 8ASE Y EAR-
-
Fires TI ME OF FI RE (1971) $ VALUE TI ME OF FI RE (1971) $ VALUE
1971
-
1972
1973
1974 Statistics Unavai l abl e
. .
1975
1976
1977
1978
. .
1979 6 10 ,753 5,630 1,792 938
1980 21 17,963 8,554 855 407
.
2 Y R AVERAGE$ LOSS 14,358 7,092 1,324 673
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T OT AL $L OSS
AVERAGE $ L OSS
_ J
$VAL l J E" At ~ -'3ASl Y EAR
P ER F I RE
Y e a r No . o f
!VAL UE AT BJ \ SE Y EAR
F i r e s T H1E OF F I RE ( 1971) $ VAL UE T I ME OF F I RE ( 1971) $ VAL UE
1971
NOT Av a i l a bl e . 1972
St a tis ti c o n Mi 1 ita r y Ope a t i o ns & Ma no e u\ r e s P r i o r t o 1975
1973
St a t i s t i c o n P r i v a t e T r a n po r t a t i o n P r i o r t o 1979 NOT a v a i l a bl e .
1974
1975 322 707, OB4
508, 694
2, 196 1, 580
1976 305 721, 713
484, 371 2, 366 1, 588
1977 292 458, 966
285, 072
1, 572 976
1978 291 1 , 331, 091
760, 623
4, 574 2, 614
1979 248 795, 093
416, 279 3, 206 1, 679
1980 298 ' , 185, 965
564, 745 3,980 1, 895
6 Y R AVERAGE $ L OSS 866, 652
503, 297 2, 982 , , 722
1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
100 F i r e s
$1, 000, 000
300 F i r e s
$2, 000, 000
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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ ' . . _ _ . ~ Numhe r o f I i r e s
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F i r e a nd L o s s
AL L I NCL USI VE F I RE AND L OSS RECORD
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Fi re Rescues
Men
4 2 2
. .
Stat sti cs Unavai able
Women
0 0 0 0 0
Chi 1dren
0 2 0 0 0
Total
4 4 2
"*
I ncludes Military Operations and Manoeuvres
. . .
Fire I njuries
l1en
10 36 31* 25* 16*
Women Stat sties Unavai able 3 5 2' 5
Children
3 4 0 4 2
Total
14 43 36 31 23
2 2 3
o o o 2
o o o o
2* o o o o
2
o
o
1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
Fi re Deaths
1971 1972
Men 0 3
Women
0 0
Chil dren 0 0
Total 0 3
P E OP L E P ROF I L E
10 YE AR RE CORD
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NO. OF P E RCE NT DOL L AR P E RCE NT
~l ONT H F I RE S OF T OT AL L OS S OF T OT AL
J AN 27 9. 1 11 , 378 1.
F E B 28 9. 4 32, 144 2. 7
MAR
26 8. 7 688, 847 58. 1
AP R
14 4. 7 4, 888 . 4
r 1AY
18 6. 1 20, 891 1. 8
J UN 33 11. 1 109, 909 11.
J UL 22 7. 4 14, 337 1. 2
AUG 32 10.7 35, 595 3.
S E P 20 6. 7 37, 541 3. 2
OCT
32 10. 7 19, 796 1. 7
NOV 23 7. 7 132, 606 11. 2
DE C 23 7. 7 56, 210 4. 7
T OT AL 298
100 1, 185, 965 100
F I RE AND F I RE L OS S BY MONT H
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F I RE DE P ART ME NT RE SP ONSE S
F a l s e Al a r ms
1972 1973 " 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
Ac c i de nt a l
381 370 354 342 354 412 460 515 512
Ma l i c i o us
342 341 361 376 360 558 365 325 312
~l e c ha nic a 1
752 753 580 766 848 851 1 , 278 1, 011 1, 683
unknown
275 196 301 315 290 244 283 285 294
T o t a l
1, 760 1, 660 1, 596
1, 7991 1, 852 2, 065 2, 386 2, 137 2, 801
Ge ne r a 1 Ca l l s
Ai r c r a f t E me r ge nc i e s
No f i r e o r r e s c ue
r e s ul t e d
1, 824 1, 974 1, 887 1 , 533 1, 729 1, 746 1, 867 1, 802 1, 842
F i r e Or Re s c ue
19 14 15
F D E me r ge nc i e s
No F i r e Re s ul t e d
1, 562 1, 553 1, 530 1, 510 1, 706 1, 900 1, 985 2, 026 2, 297
F i r e
364 326 337 301 281 267 266 224 284
Gr a s s a nd Br us h
420 413 426 439 409 418 331 253 255
No n- ONO
237 257 219 218 199 187 360 209 232
T o t a l
4, 507 4, 623 4, 499 4, 001 4, 324 4, 518 4, 828 4, 534 5, 183
Ai r c r a f t Ar r e s t o r Ca bl e Ca l l s
2, 343 12, 305
,
T o t a l ma nho ur s
3,60B 3'53~011 2, 440 2, 038 1, 835 2, 021
T o t a 1 Ca l l s
4, 288 , 3, 242 2, 549
2, 323 / 2, 338 2, 155 2, 444 2, 415 2, 723
I T ot , I Annual C,I"/10,555/' ,525/ B,14'/ B, 123/ ~ B,738 /' ,65B /" 112 f 2,470 I
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TOTAL $ L OSS
AVERAGE $ L OSS
? f R F I RE
Year No, of $ VI\IIJ E Al
(lI\SE YEAR
TVAI.UE AT 1 3 1 \ 5 YEAR
Fi res TI~IE OF FIRE
( 1971) $VALUE TIME OF FIRE
( 1971) $ VALUE
1971 100
14, 650 14, 650
147 147
1972 75
1, 657, 821
1, 578, 877 22, 104 21, 051
1973 79
3, 720
3, 292
47 42
1974 65 701, 231
560, 985 10, 788 8, 630
1975 92
57, 465
41, 342 625 450
1976 82
24, 831 16, 665
303 203
1977 93
25, 342
15, 740
272 169
1978 47
6, 772
3, 870 144 82
1979 70
169, 061 88, 514
2, 415 1, 264
1980 77 675, 657
321, 741 8,775 4, 179
Average $Loss
333, 655
264, 568
4, 562 3, 622
1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 ' 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
Fire and Losses -
10 Year Record
$600, 000
;
I ! ! " C - - " rub" of F, , , , I
i
-
-
Losses Expres
~ ~in Base Year
$500, 000
Ii
( 1971) $Value
-- ...
90 Fi res
iiiii it
. . .
!
$400, 000
iiiii
70 Fi res ~
! III
$300, 000
I!
=
::
50 Fires
=
i,
!
$200, 000
i
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30 Fires
t
=
$100, 000
!
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i
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110 Fi res
~
;
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. . . . . .
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. . .
T OT AL $L OS S
AVE RAGE $L OS S
P E R F I RE
Y e a r No . o f !VAL UE AT BAS E Y E AR ~ VAL UE AT BI \ S E Y E AR
F i r e s T I ME OF F I RE ( 1971) $VAL UE T I ME OF F I RE ( 1971) $VAL UE
1971 123 101, 502 101, 502 825 825
1972 112 67, 186 63, 987 600 571
1973 91 84, 434 74, 720 928 821
1974 99 121, 318 97, 054 1, 225 980
1975 80 121 , 687 87, 545 1, 521 1 , 094
1976 79 66, 732 44, 787 845 567
1977 80 178, 654 110, 965 2, 233 1, 387
1978 80 214, 686 122, 678 2, 684 1, 534
1979 64 201, 365 105, 427 3, 146 1, 647
1980 73 184, 010 87, 624 2, 521 1, 200
--
Av e r a g e $L o s s 141, 881 89, 629 1, 706 1, 063
. . . . . . -
--
. . .
1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
20 F i r e s
$50, 000
60 F i r e s
$100, 000
100 F i r e s
$150, 000
1-------,-,,--- -----~~__l
140 F i r e s
F AMI L Y DWE L L I NGS
S e c o n d Mo s t F i r e s By Oc c u p a n c y
F i r e s a n d L o s s e s - 10 Y e a r Re c o r d
F I RE S BY OCCUP ANCY
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L o s s e s E x p r e s
( - i n Ba s e Y e a r
( 1971) $Va l u e
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TOTAL $L OSS
AVERAGE $L OSS
PER F I RE
Y e a r No . o f !VAL UE AT BASE Y I : . AI {
!VAL UE AT BASE Y EAR
F i r e s TI ME OF F I RE ( 1971) $ VAL UE TI ME OF F I RE ( 1971) $ VAL UE
1971 145
9, 027 9, 027 62 62
1972 106 8, 800
8, 381 83 79
1973 107 63, 602 56, 285 594 526
1974 99 82, 396 65, 917 832 666
1975 94 93, 412 67, 203
994 715
1976 103 35, 331 23, 712 343 230
1977 107 52, 040 32, 323 486 302
1978 62
90, 107 51, 490 1, 453 830
1979 70 120, 103 62, 881 1, 716 898
1980 62 21, 671 10, 320 350 167
Av e r a ge $ L o s s 57, 649 38, 754 691 448
2. 0 F i r e s
$20, 000
60 F i r e s
$40, 000
100 F i r e s
$60, 000
140 F i r e s
L o s s e s Ex pr e s
~i n Ba s e Y e a r
( 1971) $ V a I ue
$80, 000
F i r e s a nd L o s s e s - 10 Y e a r Re c o r d
MI SUSE OF SMOKERS' MATERI AL
Mo s t F r e que nt Ca us e
F I RES BY CAUSE
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* An y ma l i c i o u s s e t t i n g o n f i r e o f p r o p e r t y n o t t h e r e s u l t o f c o mp u l s i o n ,
i g n o r a n c e 01' a c c id e n t .
TOTAL 5> L OSS
AVERAGE $l OSS
P ER F I RE
Y e a r No. o f $VJ i.LLTCAl'-- ,-OASCVEA-R----
!rVAlUE AT ,..! '81\'SE YEAR
Fires
TIME OF FIRE ( 1971) $ VALUE
TI ME OF FIRE ( 1971) $ VALUE
1971 9
499, 261
499, 261 55, 473
1, 028
1972 41
1 , 660, 813
1, 581, 726
40, 508 38, 579
1973 33
183, 050
161, 991
5, 547 4, 909
1974 55
37, 650 30, 120
685 548
1975 58
150, 685
108, 406
2, 598 1, 869
1976 30
93, 324
62, 634
3, 111 2, 088
1977 23
5, 771
3, 584
251 156
1978 28
28, 501
16, 286
1, 018 582
1979 34
62, 266
32, 600
1, 831 959
1980 36
35, 209
16, 766
978 466
--_ ---_._
Average $Loss
275, 653
251, 337
11, 200 5, 118
10 F i res
$40, 000
30 F i r e s
$80, 000
50 F i r e s
$120, 000
70 F i r e s
~ Numbel' o f F i r e s
t.os ses Ex p r e s
~ill Base Y e a r
( 1971) $ V a 1u e
$160, 000
* WI L F UL I NCEND1ARI SM
Se c o n d f~ost Frequent Cause
F I RES BY CAUSE
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* I n c r e a s e i n n u mb e r d u e t o r e p o r t i n g o f v e h i c l e f i r e s .
.--
TOTAL $L OSS
AVERAGE $L OSS
PER FI RE
Y e a r No . o f !VAL UE AT lll-\::,t Y EI - \ R
$ VAL UE AT BI \ SE Y EAR
Fi r e s TI NE OF FI RE ( 1 9 7 1 ) $ VAL : J E
TI ME OF FI RE ( 1 9 7 1 ) $ VAL UE
-
1 9 7 1
St a t i s t i c s
Un a v a i l a b l e
1 9 7 2
1 9 7 3 1 3
1 , 1 2 3 9 9 4 8 6 7 6
1 9 7 4 1 8 1 7 , 1 1 6 1 3 , 6 9 3 9 5 1 7 6 1
1 9 7 5 1 9
1 9 , 6 0 1 1 4 , 1 0 1 1 , 0 3 1 7 4 2
1 9 7 6
- - - -
1 9 7 7 1 9
2 , 3 0 0 1 , 4 2 9
1 2 1
. 7 5
1 9 7 8 1 8 2 , 1 0 0 1 , 2 0 0 1 6 7 9 5
1 9 7 9 1 4 3 1 , 5 7 2 1 6 , 5 3 0 2 , 2 5 5 1 , 1 8 1
1 9 8 0 2 4 7 5 2 , 6 2 8
3 4 5 , 5 3 7 3 0 , 2 3 5 1 4 , 3 9 8
I s Y R AVERAGE $ L OSS
9 9 , 9 3 0 4 9 , 1 8 6 4 , 3 5 6 2 , 1 6 6
5 Fi r e s
$5 , 0 0 0
1 5 Fi r e s
$1 0 , 0 0 0
2 5 Fi r e s
$2 0 , 0 0 0
Nu mb e r o f Fi r e s
f - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _ _ ~- - ~
l o s s e s Ex p r e s s e d
~i n Ba s e Y e a r
( 1 9 7 1 ) $ Va 1 u e
$1 5 , 0 0 0
Fi r e s a n d L o s s e s - 8 Y e a r Re c o r d
* EL ECTRI CAL SHORT CI RCUI T
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TOTAL $l OSS
AVERAGE $L OSS
I
PER FI RE
Year No. of
$-VAlUEA-T - 'liASE YEAir-"-
I rVALUE AT
811SYEAR
Fi res
TI ME OF FI RE ( 1971) $ VALUE
TI ME OF FI RE
( 1971) $VALUE
----r-
1971
27
131, 730
131 , 730
4, 879
4, 879
1972
30
13, 847
13, 188
462
440
1973
19
24, 224
21, 437
1, 275 1, 128
1974
24
54, 507
43, 606
2, 271
1, 817
1975
21
12, 913
9, 290
615
424
1976
16
2, 330
1, 564
146
98 1977
23
9, 208
5, 719
400
248 1978
32
39, 494
22, 568
1, 234
705 1979
18
31, 964
16, 735
1, 776
930
1980
22
26, 964
12, 840
1, 199
571
Average $Loss
34, 718
27, 868
1 , 426
1, 124
. .
1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980
$10, 000
15 Fi res
$20, 000
25 Fi res
$30, 000
35 Fi res
Number of Fires
losses Expresse
in Base Year
( 1971) $Value
$40, 000
5 Fi res
Fires and Losses - 10 Year Period
* CARELESSUSE OF COOKI NGOI L, GREASE, FAT AND WAS
Fourth ~lost Frequent Cause
FI RES BY CAUSE
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7
Ar s o n
5
S u s p e c t e d Ar s o n
1 9
Mi s c h i e f / Va r d a l i s m
5
S u s p e c t e d Ni s c h i e f /
Va n d a l i s m
8 7
Mi s u s e - S o u r c e o f I g n i t i o r
3 9
Mi s u s e - Ma t e r i a l
I g n i t e d
71
Me c h / E 1 e c t .
F a ilu r e
4
Co n s t r u c t i o n / De s i g n
De f i c i e n c y
Mi s u s e o f E q u i p me n t
3 0
Hu ma n F a i l i n g
Ve h i c l e Ac c i d e n t
3 0
Mi s c e l l a n e o u s
2 9 8
T OT AL
F i r e s B y Ca u s e
rmr'OF .
F I RE S _ _ . AQ_ _ ( j . . ! : _ _ QM. I " - " S . ; ; . S - ' - I O_ N +t
F i r e s l J y P r o p e r t y Cl a s s i f i c a t i o n
NO. OF
E S T I MAT E D S L OS S
irs m7 ; I d
F I RE S
CL AS S I F I CAT I ON
'D N D :..BL DG/ VE H DND CONT E NT
2 5
1 0 0 - As s e mb l y
5 4 , 4 2 4
5 , 2 9 9
3 0 , 4 4 9
5
2 0 0 - I n s t i t u t i o n a l
4 5 , 6 0 0
9 0 0
1 6 1
3 0 0 - Re s i d e n t i a l
6 7 3 , 2 6 1
7 7 , 2 4 8
1 2 4 , 8 2 0
4
4 0 0 -
Bu s i n e s s
3 5
2 4 2
1 7
1 1
5 0 0 -
Me r c a l 1 t i l e
8 , 2 3 1
1 , 1 3 2
3 , 3 0 0
4 6 0 0 -
J nd us tr+a]
1 0 0
1 1
7 0 0 -
S t o r a g e
3 , 2 0 6
2 2 , 7 8 6
. .
6 1
8 0 0 -
S p e c i a l P r o p e r t y
5 5 , 9 1 3
1 8 , 3 8 8
2 3 , 0 2 8
1 6
9 0 0 - Mi s c e l l a l 1 e o u s
2 4 , 6 5 0
9 , 2 0 0
3 , 7 3 6
2 9 8
T OT AL S
8 6 5 , 4 2 0
1 3 5 , 1 9 5
1 8 5 , 3 5 0
F I RE S , I mE RE AND HH~
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2 i l r s o n
5 Mi s c h i e f / Va n d a l i s m
S u s p e c t e d Mi s c h i e f /
Va n d a l i s m
. .
F i r e s 8 y P r o p e r t y Us a g e
NO. OF
- - , - - - - E S T I MAT E D $ L OS S
F I RE S
CL AS S I F 1 CAT l Q! : ! _ . . _
~J . ! : . _ D ; _ OND CONT E NT
P RI VAT E
Theatre
8
Re c r e a t i o n / Ar mo u r y
4 1 , 0 8 4
4 , 7 9 9
1 , 5 0 0
4
S c h o o l
1 2 , 9 2 ' ;
Ch u r c h
4
S OCi a l / S p o r t s
Cl u b
8S
2 8 , 9 4 9
Mu s e u m/ L i b r a r y
7
F o o d / Be v e r a g e E s t a b .
3 0 0
2 0 0
1
P a s s e n g e r T e r mi n a l
3 0 0
Mi s e e 1 1a n e o u s
3 0
~ __ -_---
-~----.
--_ 2 5
T OT AL S
5 4 , 4 2 4
5 , 2 9 9
3 0 , 4 4 9
'_.
CL AS S 1 0 0 AS S E ~1 BLY
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Mi s u s e - S OL r e e o f I g n i t i o l
I g n i t e d
8
Ne c h / E l e e t ,
F a i l u r e
2
De f i e i e n c y
2
Ve h i c l e Ac c i ~e n t
2
Mi s c e 1 1 a n e o u s
2 5
T OT AL
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T OT AL
Ar s o n
Mi s c h i e f / Va n d a l i s m
Va n d a l i s m
2 Mi s u s e - S o u r c e o f I g n i t i o n
Mi s u s e - Ma t e r i a l I g n i t e d
2 I ~e c h / E l e c t . F a i l u r e
De f i c i e n c y
5
900 4 5 , 6 00
5
F i r e s By Ca u s e
NO-.or- .-.------------,-
F I RE S ACT o r OMI S S I ON
- - - - ~- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ~- - - - - - - - ~- - - - - - - - - ~- - - - - - - -
T OT AL S
900
4 5 , 6 00
CL AS S 2 00 I NS T I T UT I ONAL
Hi s c e l l a n e o u s
Ho s p i t a l / Cl i n i c
5
Ch i ld Ca r e
P r i son/va iI
F i r e s Gy P r o p e r t y Us a g e
NO. OF E S T I MAT E D $ L OS S
F I RE S CL AS S I F I CAT I ON t- o N D BW; DND CONT E NT P RI VAT E
I ~~- - r - - =~~~~~- - - - - +~~~
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Suspected Mischief/
Vandalism
69
Misuse - Source of Ignition
30
Misuse - Material
19nited
19
Mech/Elect.
Failure
1
Construction/Design
Defi ci ency
1
t1isuse of Equipment
17
HumanFailing
-
Vehicle Accident
8
Miscell aneous
-
I
161
TOTAL
Fi res lJ y Cause
~-~~~~F --;';~r~~':9~~ION
r"---
3 Arson
1 Suspected Arson
7 Mischief/Vandalism
124, 820
77, 248
673, 261
161
TOTALS
CLASS 300 RESIDENTIAL
Fi res By Propsrty Usage
frO . A F - ---.--.~------, ----- "ESTIMATED $ LOSS
E_I.RES_ .. CLASSH1C~T.!_().!L___~D.-BLq'i.:-__ DNDCo.t!_TENT _!'_PJ 'y'~.TJ .
46 l-2FamilyDwelling 68, 057 1, 008 34, 907
23 Apartment 60, 292 829 16, 677
- Hotel (Interior Entry) _ _ _
77 Dormitory 537, 339 67, 948 70, 370
14 Mobile Home/Trailer/Ten 7, 473 7, 463 2, 366
1 Misce11aneous 100 - 500
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T OT AL
4
.-------------------'
F i r e s By Ca u s e
~' OF
F I RE S ACT o r OMI S S I ON
Ar s o n
Va n d a l i s m
t 4 i s u s e - S o u r c e o f I g n i t i o n
I
Me c h / E l e c t . F n i l u r e
Co n s t r u c t i o n / ( ~s i g n
De f i c i e n c y
2 Hu ma n F a i l i n g
242
35
4
T OT AL S
35
Of f i c e s
P e r s o n a l S e r v i c e
E l e c t r o n i c E q u i p
Mi see11a n e o u s
3
17
92
17
150
DND BL DG. DND CONT E NT P RI VAT E
_f$J _jl1l'illD __I _L USS
NO. OF
F I RE S CL AS S I F I CAT I ON
F i r e s By P r o p e r t y Us a g e
CL AS S 4 0 0 BUS I NE S S / P E RS ONAL S E RVI CE ~
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2
- Co n s t r u c t i o n / De s i g n
De f i c i e n c y
Ar s o n
Va n d a l i s m
Mi s u s e - S o u r c e o f I g n i t i o n
Me c h / E l e c t . F a i l u r e
3
2
2
1 1 [ T OT AL
.-- ----.--- -_.--- - -- -_ .._-_.
. ---- ._---_.---------
F i r e s By Ca u s e --------r
N~oF-------
F i RE S ACT o r OMI S S I ON
-
CL AS S 500 ME RCANT I L E
-
F o o d / Be v e r a g e S a l e
-
-
-
-
T e x t i l e / ~I e a r in g
- -
-
Ap p a r e l S a l e
-
F u r n i t u r e / Ha r d wa r e
- -
-
S a l e s
- Bo o k s / Ne ws p a p e r S a l e s
-
- -
1
Re c r e a t i o n / Ho b b y
30
- -
S u p p l i e s
1 0
Re p a i r S h o p / L a u n d r y
8, 2 01
1 , 1 32 3, 300
-
Mo t o r Ve h i c l e / Bo a t
-
- -
S a l e s & S e r v i c e
-
De p a r t me n t / Va r i e t y S t o r e
-
- -
-
Mi s c e l l a n e o u s I
- - -
11
T OT AL S
8, 2 31
1 , 1 32 3, 300
N(j~- ----,---.-- ..- Est!MArm[I GSS----
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. " , - - t _ _ . _ _ . _ _ . . . _ _ . . _ . _ _ .
Mi s c e 11a n e o u s
1 Co n s t r u c t i o n / De s i g n
De f i c i e n c y
2
~Y f ~~~: y Ca u s e ACT - : - ~~~9
- Ar s o n
- S u s p e c t e d Ar s o n
1 t~is c h i e f / Va n d a 1i s m
- S u s p e c t e d Mi s c h i e f /
i Va n d a l i s m
T OT AL S
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100
CL AS S I F I CAT I Q! i _ . _ ~Q. BL D~~ DND CONT E NT
Ch e mi c a l s / P e t r o l e u ms / _ _
P a i n t s
Wo o d / F u r n i t u r e / P a p e r
Me t a l / E l e c t r i c a l E q p t
F o o d P r o c e s s i n g
Be v e r a g e / T o b a c c o
T e x t i l e s
Footwear / We a r i n g
Ap p a r e l
Ve h i c l e s
E S T 1 l 1 AT E D s L OS S
1 0 0
4
P r o p e r t y Us a g e
CL AS S 6 0 0 I NDUS T RI AL MANUF ACT URI NG
F i r e s By
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F l RE S
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-
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-.._ .__._--_._--------,
T OT A L 11
-_-- --------------1
V e h i c l e A c c i d e n t
Mh c e 11a n e o u s
2 H u ma n F a i l i n g
Mi s u s e - S o u . c e o f I g n i t i o n
C o n s t r u c t i o n / De s i g n
De f i c i e n c y
1
1
3
5 ~~- P ' - ~a u s e AC T o r OM- I ~o 9
1 A r s o n
2 S u s p e c t e d A r s o n
1 Mi s c h i e f / V a n d a l i s m
- S u s p e c t e d Mi s c h i e f /
V a n d a l i s m
22, 786 3, 206
T OT A L S
11
6, 320
6,053
1, 79 0
9 16
4
6
-
10, 413
500
A g r i c u l t u r a l
T e x t i l e s / C l o t h i n g
P r o c e s s e d F o o d / B e v e r a g e
F l a mma b l e L i q u i d s
Wo o d / F u r n i t u r e / P a p e r
C h e mi c a l s / P l a s t i c s /
P a i n t s
Me t a 1 P r o d u c t s / E l e c t r i c a
A p p l i a n c e s
V e h i c l e S t o r a g e
_ -
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Amo u n t , /
Re c o v e r e d
P r i v a t e
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D N D
F r o m P e r s o n ( s ) D N D P l u s Ad mi n
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P r o p e r t y Re s p o n s i b l e
Ba l a n c e Re c o v e r y
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2 0
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3 2 5 2 5 , 5 1 3 4 , 4 3 0
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6
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FIRE LOSS BY LOCATION
$ LOSS
Amount J
Private
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No. of
DND
From Person(s) DND Plus Admin
Command
Fires
Property
Responsible
Ba1ance Recovery
Canadi an Forces
Training S~stem
CFB Borden
13
4, 465
152 4, 313 702
CFB Chi 11 iwack
6
1, 175
68 1, 107 118
CFB Cornwallis
7
3, 388
0 3, 388 3, 800
CFB St. J ean
2 12, 411
36 12, 375 36
CFB Kingston
7
678
0 678
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35
22, 117
256
21 . 861 4, 656
Canadian Forces
Europe
CFB Baden
6
305
270 35 970
CFB Lahr
18
37, 375
292 37, 083 16, 459
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24
37, 680
562
37, 118 17, 429
Aggregate Total
279
943, 187
2, 489 940, 698 189, 359
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Date:
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MCpl Hancock, Badae#5118 ~
I certify that the attached document(s) is / are suitable for transmission by Secure/ NonSecurefacsimile.
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Comments / ,C8mm,E w,ta!r~(s):
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A Military Police investigation, GO 11-5754, being conducted by the Canadian Forces National I nvestigation Service, requests the Fire
Report from a house fire that occurred at the residence was living at in 197911980,at CI 'B Edmonton (Namao). I I is
believed the requested fire records are located in:
Accession 1997-981354 - Box I J ,
FileNumber: 7667-2-E(6- Volumes 4,5,6 - Covering from 1977-10-04- (987-02-09, and
7667 - Construction and Engineering Fires &Fire Damage -2 - Reports -E I 6 - Edmonton Alberta - Canadian Forces Base.
This request for information is pan ofa criminal investigation. Contact and questions regarding this request can be forwarded to MCpl
Hancock at the above listed office phone number.
Thank you.
To/A: Library and Archives Canada From/De: MCpl Hancock, Badge #5118
Attention: ATIP and Personnel Records
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780-235-3677
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Subject / Sujet: Fire Records Request
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Telccopicur Seuriraire (780) 973-~093
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Secure Fax (780) 973-4093
Canadian Forces Nnrional I nvestigation Service
Western Region, Building 304
PO Box 10500, Edmonton, :\B T5J 4.15
Service national des enquere des Forces canadicnncs
Region de l'Ouesr, Edi fice 304
Casicr l'oswll0500, Edmonton, c\B T5.l4.l5
Department of National Defence
Departernent de la defense nationale
Desc : AT! REQUEST TO LAC-FI RE REPORT Reffl: 27SEP 11
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A., ~"n"inp Military Police investigation, GO 11-5754 refers. Mepl Hancock was informed through this investigation
that alleged tohavesexually assaulted Mr B. Bees inthe late 1970's andearl" 1980's. The documents
requested will be used to assist inconfirming the location of the alleged offences as it isbelieved moved out of
the PMQ, where several assaults occurred, after ahouse firedamaged theresidence at CFB Edmonton lNamao).
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; residence dating back to 1979180 fromtheCFB Edmonton PMO Area (Namao1.
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. .r esi dence f i r e. I n t he package was a l et t er out l i ni ng t he out come
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CF1414, f r om a house f i r e t hat occur r ed i n a dupl ex at ,
Lancast er Par k, CFB Edmont on, AB, at 1248 hr s, 23 J un 80. A r eVl ew or t he
r epor t r eveal ed a CE empl oyee had at t ended t he r esi dence t o i nspect a
suspect ed gas l eak at t he ki t chen st ove r esul t i ng a f i r e at t he hose
connect i on t o t he gas st ove. and her daught er
wer e home at t he t i me and escaped t he f i r e wi t hout i nJ ur y;
however , t he C~ wor ker conduct i ng t he i nspect i on suf f er ed a hear t at t ack
dur i ng t he f i r e whi l e t r yi ng t o shut of f a gas val ve i n t he basement and
l at er di ed i n hospi t al . Ext ensi ve damage t o t he r esi dence was not ed i n t he
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T h e h a z a r d t h a t e x i s t s wi t h t h e s u b j e c t f l e x h o s e i s , n e e d l e s s t o s a y , e x t r e me .
S i mi l a r i n c i d e n t s o f t h i s s o r t h a v e o c c u r r e d i n t h e p a s t , s o me o f wh i c h h a v e b e e n o f
a mo r e s e r i o u s n a t u r e a n d h a v e , a s we l l , r e s u l t e d i n l o s s o f l i f e .
T h e u s e o f t h i s fI e x ' h o s e i s u n d e r i n v e s t i g a t i o n b y b o t h c i v i l i a n a u t h o r i t i e s
a s we l l a s DND a n d r e s u l t s wi l l b e ma d e a v a i l a b l e a t a l a t e r d a t e . A me s s a g e h a s b e e n
r e l e a s e d b y t h i s c o mma n d , i n s t r u c t i n g u n l t s t o wa r n MQ o c c u p a n t s o f t h i s h a z a r d , a n d '
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whicllwe'will pursue vigourously at this Base. Additionaliy" the,lessons le~tned
w;i.ll b~?.~~F~iz~d t~,FoughGeneral Safety channels. .. ";,: ...:': '
I fully concur with the findings andrecommendationsof this report.
S,inceall circumstances surrounding this fire anddeath, have .beeninvestigated
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hoaes, Theuse of mild soapandwater is anaccepcabIe method of .cleaning' this' device
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c . Res c ue. Ac c es s t o t he bas ement was at t ai ned' t hr ough t he bas ement ; door I " hi c hwas i n
t he ki t c hen. The, Pl at oon Chi ef ' and ~~e ' Cr ewman ent er ed' , t hebas ement..l f ui t e' , s moke
was evi dent i n t he bas ement f r om t he c ei l i ng t o' wi t hi n . 6m f r om t he f l oor ' . :N , o " f l ame
or heat was pr es ent , but t he s ear c h i n t he: bas emenl : was di f f i c ul t due t o t he numer ous
pi ec es of f ur ni t ur e and boxes ' s c at t er ed' i n t he' bas ement . The Pl at oon Chi ef ' f ound an
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The Pl at oon Chi ef ar r i ved' at t he ent r anc e t o' t he ki t c hen l yea: i : ' i ng B. A. and was t ol d by
t he BFC t o at t ai n a qui c k knoc kdmvn of f i r e and t o at t empt a s ear c h of t he MQ f or a
CE Pl umber as s oon as c ondi t i ons wer.e: s af e. ' Thi s or der ' was c ar r i ed' out i mmedi at el y.
Of f - dut y f i r e f i ght er s ar r i ved- on t he s c ene and i mmedi at el y wer e empl oyed' as bac k- up
c r ewmen' on noz z l es ; l ayi ng auxi l i ar y equi pment et c ' . The i . i ndwas , 2100at l OK.
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c oul d be c onduc t ed- bec aus e of a t or c hi ng f i r e behi nd t he s t ove. ' CE t r ades man ar r i ved'
br eat hi ng appar at us ( B. A. ) i mmedi at el y at t ac ki ng t he f i r e f r om j us t i ns i de t he ki t c hen
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I ni t i al l y, one l ~' . ' l i ne was l ai d t o, t he ki . t c her r door wi t h' one c r ew' man i n
a. At t ac k.
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wi ndows . Cl os er ' exami nat i on t hr ough t he open' ki t c hen' door and open' l i vi ng r oom door
r eveal ed' t he ki t c hen' engul f ed' i n f l ames ~' and' a1s o' i ndi c at i ons of a pr es s ur i z ed' nat ur al
gas f i r e f r om behi nd t he s t ove. ' Numer ous s pec t at or s l ~et es t andi ng ar ound but no t r ac e
of a CE, P' L umbez was evi dent out s i de of t he HQ.
On ar r i val , t he BFC was i nf or med' by t he oc c upant at MQ , "
t hat " t he gas s t ove , was on f i r e and Maybe a CE Pl umber
was s t i l l i n t he MQ" . Fl ames ' wer e vi s i bl e f r om t he open' ki t c hen door and br oken' ki t c hen
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appr oxi mat el y 15 s ec onds bef or e t he TCP. Al l vehi c l es wer e at t he s c ene by 1252 hr s .
" ar r i vi ng vehi c l e pr oc eeded' f r om hi s MQ, eas t on 10t h' Avenue and s out h' or
12t h St r eet ' wi t h TCP pr oc eedi ng di r ec t l y t o t he ' emer genc y MQ and St ake Tr uc k s t oppi ng
at Hydr ant #58, and t hen l ayi ng awat er s uppl y l i ne t o' TCP. The BFC, dr i vi ng t he ut i l i t y'
I ni t i al r es pons e was by 1 TCP, one 3 Ton St ake ' t r uc kHos e L ayi ng , Vehi c l e, ' and
Fi r e Dept Ut i l i t y Vehi c l e, ' PC and 4 c r ew' member s under t he c ommand of
CAPT R. H. Nye, ' BFC. The TCP and St ake Tr uc k pzoceededweston 10t h Avenue and s out h on
2 RESPONSE
1 NOTI FI CATI ON
I ni t i al not i f i c at i on was r ec ei ved by c oded' s i gnal Box #313 -
L anc as t er Par k, Al ber t a: at 12' 48hr s , 23, J une, ' 1980.
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ad t hen' t ur ned t he. l ef t r ear bur ner cont r ol t o, t he " on"
hear d a hi s s i ng s ound, t hen' a Bang - " l i ke
He s poke t o
pos i t i on. Si mul t aneous l y,
vi s ual l y i ns pect ed' t he f l ex' hos e, and t hen' appl i ed' " Tel t al e' "l i qui d t o t he f l ex
connect i on at t he s uppl y l i ne. Hr St el t er ' t hen' pus hed' t he s t ove back i nt o pos i t i on.
hos e wi t h wi t nes s es pr es ent , and phot os wer e t aken' on s i t e of i t s condi t i on, and
quar ant i ned' by BFC. The o n/ o. f f pos i t i on of each appl i ance gas s hut - of f was . a1s o
not ed' ; I n' a f ur t her ' i nt er vi ew wi t h i t was r eveal ed' t hat Mr s St apl et on
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had cal l ed' CE Wor k Recept i on at appr oxi mat el y 1015 hr s 23 J un 80 and compl ai ned' of a
nat ur al gas s mel l i n her ' ki t chen' of HQ n ' ) s t at ed' t hat
t he odor was not ver Y s t r ong. At appr oxi mat el Y. I I OO hr s , 11" 1: St el t er ' cal l eo
and i ndi cat ed' t hat i f t he s mel l was not s t r ong, he woul d ar r i ve af t er ' l unch.
At appr oxi mat el y 1235 hr s Mr St el t er ' . ar r i ved' at I n t he i I mnedi at e
pr es ence of ~r St el t er ' r emoved' t he. r ear r i ght bur ner ' of t he ki t chen
s t ove. He t hen appl i ed' " Tel t al e' "- gas det ect or l i qui d ( a s oap bas e s ol ut i on) t o t he
f l ex: connect i on at t he s t ove. He t hen' pul l ed' t he s t ove f r om t he wal l , phys i cal l y and
~r J . J . }[ oor ewas . requested' t o' di s connect t he gas .f l ex A PG FTR PI P 9
Canada, . Al ber t a Labour , . Hedi cal Exami ner ' - Pr ovi nce of Al ber t a: wer e ot her ' agenci es '
whi ch l at er r eques t ed' t o' as s i s t i n t he i nves t i gat i on. Dur i ng over haul ,
was i nt er Vi ewed' by " t heBFC, and ' i t was as cer t ai ned' t hat t he f i r e had i gni t ed' behi nd
t he s t ove. Pi ct ur es , ~er ei mm~di at el y t aken' of t he s t ove and t he gas .fLex hos e i n s i t u.
The f i r e was ~ni t i a11y i nves ~i gat ed' by' t he BFC, NP and BGSO. Labour a. Over vi ew.
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e. Over haul . Vent i l at i on commenced' i mmedi at el y and a s ear ch was conduct ed' f or s us pect ed'
hot s pot s i n t he ~qal l s . The ki t chen' t abl e and chai r s , l i vi ng r oom s of a, wer e r emoved'
f r om t he NQ f or compl et e ext i ngui s hment . . El ect r i cal ut i l i t i es ' wer e ai s conneded' and
a check f or damage t o t he adj oi ni ng MQ was conduct ed' . The TCP. was back i n s er vi ce
at 1345 hr s , t he hos e l ayi ng vehi cl e, ' at 1400 hr s .
d. Ext i ngui s hment . Af t er ' r es cue was compl et e' ,at t ent i on was di r ect ed' t o: compl et e' .
ext i ngui s hment of , t he f i r e and conf i r mat i on of gas s hut - of f by a f i r e f i ght er ' at
t he bas ement mas t er s hut - of f val ve. ' Appr oxi mat el y 700 l i t r es ' of wat er ' was us ed, t ot al .
by t he BFC. Medi cal per s onnel ' had pr evi ous l y. beeudepl oyed' at t he r es cue wi ndow
and i mmedi at el y appl i ed' . oxygen' and commenced' CPR t o: Mr St el t er ; at 1257 hr s . The
s i gns and s ympt oms of t he cas ual t y, when r el eas ed' t o medi cal per s onnel ' wer e:
ext r eme pal l or , non- r es pi r at or y r es pons e, ~non- pal pabl e pul s e, and eyes di l at ed .
The cas ual t y pas s ed away at appr oxi mat el y 1430 hr s , 23 J un 80 at t he Bas e Hos pi t al .
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c. at approximately 1235 hrs
(8) That Mr Stelter'had reported' to'MQU
23, Jun 80.
(7) That Mr Stelter'had worked'for DND since Jun 79, and had previously been' a self-
employed'contractor.
gas fired'appliances i n the Province of Alberta.
Stelter'S. PG/FTR- PIP 9 was.certified' to workon natural
(6) That,
no other'gas appliance problems,'
had occupied' subj ect MQ since Sep'.75, and had experienced'
(5) That the
That no repairs or maintenance procedures'were madeto,any appliance on the
7 Jan callout." ProbLernwasidentified. as an unlit pilot light.', ..
(4)
1had,reported'a gas smell on 7 Jan 80.
(3) That
CE Trouble Calls on 23 J uri 80.
:ollowed'the proper'procedures' in ,reporting a gas smell to
(2) That
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depeniiant wife and daughter'
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( 1) That the two'occupants,of the MQ at the'time of the fire ,were
Thesubj ect flex' hose wasturned' over' to, the,Alberta',Research Council for tests'.
TheBCPOwascontacted' to,review'Mr Stelter's,qualifications.'
of Alberta' conducted',the autopsy' to' determine the cause of death', and the BCEOwas
.requested'"to:,review',the preventive maintenance.racords and trouble calls to' the
subject MQ,'in relation to: the natural gas appliances'.
Onfurther', ~nvest,igation of the fire,-Mr C.G. Olafson, GasInspector, GasProtection
Branch, Inspection .servaces',Division, ,Alberta,Labour wasrequested' to: assess the
condition and standard of, the subject, gas flex', hose. The,Medical Examiner - Province
and informed
then' proceeded' to' MQ id asked: the occupant
MOC041, to', call the Fire Dept., Shethen',returned' to',PMQ:
the BFCof the situation.
then turned'in the alarmby activating Fire AlarmBox#313. She time. ,
attempted' to, call the Fire Dept fromher' MQ, then',realizeeJ: her' daughter
j wasupstairs in the shower, Shecalled' to',her', daughter, and
when'her daughter' fit\ally arrived~they' retrieved' the family dog, and proceeiied' out "
of the MQthrough the living roomdoor. Smokeand heat were not unbearable at this
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(28) That at t he t i me of t he c al l , t wo member s of t he Fi r e Dept . dut y: pl at oon . were
r et ur ni ng f r om a 707 r ef uel i i ng wi t h: an Oshkoshc r es hvehdc . L e . "
(27) That t he Fi r e. Dept r ec ei ved t he c oded s i gnal at 1248.hr s .
toc al l t he Fi r e Dept . . oc c upant of MQ
( 26) That Mr s St apl et on t hen ens ur ed t he. al ar m woul d be s ounded by as ki ng t he
' ) t i f i ed . t he Fi r e Dept by ac t i vat i ng t he Fi r e Al ar m Box 1/313 ( 25) That ~
( 24) . That Mr St el t er had not appear ed f r om t he bas ement vi a t he bas ement door when
les c aped f r om t he MQ.
-scaped; That t he . heat and s moke . ~. , er e not unbear abl e ~7her (23)
f r om t he t i me t he nat ur al gas i gni t ed unt i l t hey' es c aped,
I n, . her daught er and f ami l y. pet . wer e i n t he MQ 2 t o 3 mi nut es ( 22) . That
t he l i vi ng r oom door .
her daught er and t he f ami l y. pet es c aped f r om t he MQ t hr ough (21) That
t he Fi r e . Dept ; _ . .and di d not c ompl et e ei t her c al l .
c eal i z ed . her : daughter was i n t he MQ ups t ai r s whi l e di al i ng (20) That
had t he Fi r e Dept emer genc y number on a s t i c ker ~
-rQ i s Locatedmext ; t o: t he bas ement door , and (19) That t he phone i n t he
at t empt ed. t o c al l t he f i r e. depar t ment .(18). That when t he f i r e st ar red, .
t wi c e f r om t he phone i n her : PMQ.
(16) That when t he f i r e s t ar t ed, Mr St el t er : r an t o hi s .vehd.cL e , " obtaaned a 12"
c r es c ent wr enCh, - . r et ur nedto: t he MQ, r an pas t t he bur ni ng st ove , . entecedt he
basemenc; and. cl . os ed t he bas ement door behi nd hi m.
.(17) That Mr St el t er had i n hi s pos s es s i on an 8" c r es c ent I Yr enc h.
(IS) Ther e t her e was no nat ur al gas "expIosf on" .
(14) That i mmedi at el y af t er Mr St el t er t ur ned: t he c ont r ol ( s ) ; a f i r e. envel oped at
t he. r ear of t he s t ove.
nhear d a hi s s i ng s ound j us t . bef or e or when r oc St el t er t ur ned (13) That ~
t he c ont r ol ( s ) .
( 12) That t he l ef t r ear burner. and oven.c ont r ol s of t he s t ove : wer e f ound i n t he
" on" pos i t i on.
( 11) That Mr St el t er ~ af t er di s c over i ng no gas l eaks , t ur ned t he. l ef t r ear bur ner
c ont r ol of t he s t ove t o t he " on" pos i t i on.
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( 45) That appr oxi mat el y 20, l bs t or que pr es s ur e i vasr eq~i r ed t o' " c l os e t he St ove Gas
( 43) , That , qhen'ext i ngui s hment was c ompl et ed' t he f ol l owi ng gas val ves ' wer e c hec ked' f or
open/ c l os e pos i t i on:
I f as t er ' Out s i de Gas Val ve' : ' Cl os ed'
Mas t er ' I ns i de Gas Val ve' : ' Cl os ed'
Fur nac e Gas Val ve - Open
Hot t ol at er ' Heat er ' Gas Val ve' : ' Open
St ove Gas Val ve' : ' Par t i al l y . cL o s ed;
( 44) That t he ~I as t er ' , Out s i de and I ns i de Gas Val ves ' wer e c l os ed' by CE, Tr ades i nan and . ,j.
( 41) That Hr St el t er . was .t.urned over t . ounadL c aL aut hor i t i es under ' t he c ommand of
Cpl Keough J . F. MOC, 711 MED A at 1257 hr s ( f or det ai l s of c ondi t i on
of c as ual t y s ee PART THREE) .
( 42) , That t ot al el aps ed' t i me f r om Fi r e Dept not i f i c at i on t o' c ompl et ed' r es c ue was 9 mi ns
( 40) That Hr St el t er ' ,, vas ext r i c at ed' t hr ough t he s out heas t bas ement wi ndow.
( 39) ' That t her e was no s moke wi t hi n . 6m of Mr St el t er ' when' f ound.
( 38) That t he Dut y Pl at oon Chi ef ' f ound Mr St el t er ' unc ons c i ous , bet ween' t he f ur nac e
and t he eas t bas ement , yal l of t he MQ.
,I Nas s J.D. ( 37) That t he Mas t er ' ,gas s hut - of f val ve was s ec ur ed' by' \
.noc 651 FF.
( 36) That t hi s ar ea' was s ear c hed' f i r s t bec aus e bf t he as s umpt i on t hat 'l:k St el t er '
woul d at t empt t o, s hut - of f t he Mas t er ' gas s hut - of f val ve, ' vi c e t he s t ove s hut - of f
val ve. :
(35) That t he s ear c h was i ni t i al l y di r ec t ed' i n t he ar ea' of t he mast . er i ns i de gas
s hut - of f val ve. '
( 34) That t he s ear c h i n t he bas ement was di f f i c ul t due t o' , s moke and numer ous
obs t ac l es ' .
( 33) That t he r es c ue, t eai nwas under+ t he c ommand of t he Dut y, Pl at oon Chi ef ' ,
Sgt St one D. A. MaC 651 FF.
( 32) , That ent r y was made i nt o, t he bas ement by t he , r es c ue, t eambef or e t he mai n gas
s hut - of f val ve was .cL os ed' , and a nat ur al gas f i r e, was s t i l l bur ni ng behi nd t he
s t ove.
bec aus e' of a, " t or c hi ng" f i r e behi nd t he s t ove. '
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( 31) That t he Fi r e Dept had di f f i c ul t y' ac hi evi ng i ni t i al knoc kdown of t he f i r e'
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( 9) That t he gener al di s ar r ay of obj ec t s . i n t he bas ement i mpeded t he di s c over y of
Mr . St el t er ,
( 8) That under t he Ci r c t ml s t anc es . t her e ~- 1er eno vde I ays i n. r epor t i . ng t he f i r e.
(7) That i f 11r . St el t er had not s uf f er ed .a . heartat t ac k at t hi s t : l J ne he ~l oul dhave
s hut t he var ve of f c ompl et el y and t he nat ur al gas f i r e behi nd t he s t ove woul d
have ext i ngui s hed i t s el f ; damage t o: t he MQ woul d have been mi ni mal , and Mr ,
St el t er c oul d have es c aped f r om t he MQ unhar med~
( 6) That Mr. St el t er , af c ar i gni t i on c c c uz - red, a tt emptedt o .s hut - of f t . h e s c ova gas
s hut - of f val ve i n t he bas emer r tj:he pa r tLa.lIyr cLosed' r he val ve, but s uf fer-eda
hear t at t ac k.
( 5) That t he t ype and mode L' of gas f l ex: hos e, " . al t houghappr oved . by: CGA, has a. des i gn
def ec t t hat i s danger ous t o. l i f e and pr oper t y.
That pr oc edur es c onduc t ed by. t he t r ades man bef or e t he f i r e. wer e i n ac c or danc e t o.
CE SOPs and eGA Codes, _"
( 4)
That i f t he l ef t r ear bur ner or t he oven bur ner had not been. turnedon by t he
t r ades man t he es c api ng nat ur al gas woul d have been Lgndt.edby' t he pi l ot l i ght s ,
i n f ac t , t he amount of gas pr es ent under t hi s c ondi t i on may bave c aus ed a s er i ous
expl os i on.
(3)
That t he nat ur al gas was i gni t ed by t he l ef t r ear bur ner or t h~ oven bur ner
whi c h wer e t ur ned t o t he on pos i t i on by a qual i f i ed t r ades man.
(2)
A r uot ur e i n a nat ur al gas . f l ex hos e t hat was c onnec t ed t o. a ki t c hen s t ove i n
MQ . .was t he c ont r i but i ng f ac t or t o. t he c aus e of t he f i r e.
( 1)
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( 53) Damage t o . . per s onnel F&E was es t i mat ed by i ns ur anc e adj us t er s at . $12, OOO.
had $9, 650 pr i vat e . f i r e
( 52) That t he oc c upant of MQ
i ns ur anc e.
That c har damage was c onf i ned to: t he ki t c hen and di ni ng r oom of s ubj ec t MQ.
Smoke aamag" e/ s t ai nst ~er ec onf fned t o . t he 1s t and 2nd s t o r ey of s ubj ec t MQ.
. ( 51)
(50) That CE/PM I ns pec t or s have been r epl ac i ng s ubj ec t met al . f 1ex hos e f or t he pas t
t wo year s wi t h a s t ai nl es s s t eeL or s t ai nl es s s t eel / pl as t i c coated hos e when
t he t wo aIm f l ex hos es ar e i n s t oc k
( 49) That t he Subj ec t f l ex hos e, " c onnec t or s , and t he gas s t ove s hut - of f val ve wer e al l
i ns t al l ed pr oper l y and appr oved i n ac c or danc e wi t h CGA B 149. 1- 1976.
(48) That t es t s . c onduc t ed by. t he. A1ber t a Res ear c h Counc i l . r eveal ed t he s ubj ec t . f l ex
was c ons t r uet ed: of Br as s and i s s ubj ec t t o met al f at i gue when expos ed t o: an
ammoni a bas e c l eani ng s ol ut i on.
( 47) That an I ns pec t i on f r om t he Al ber t a: Gas Pr ot ec t i on Br anc h st . azedt hat a f r ac t ur e
of . t hi s nat ur e i s nor mal l y causedtbymec al , f at i gue of t he f l ex hos e t hr ough
appl i c at i on of s t r ong hous ehol d . c l eani ng .det exgenc s v
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c eas e t he pr ac t i c e of c l eani ng, al l gas , f l ex' hos es ' .
3. That al l BCEO t r ades men' r es pondi ng t o: gas t r oubl e c al l s have i n t hei r pos s es s i on a
wr enc h of s uf f i ~~en~ s i z e, t o: i . r nI Dedi at el Y shut - epff gas val ves ' .
4. That t he F i r e Depar t ment ; r e- publ i Gi z e' t he r equi r ement f or MQ oc c upant s t o: k eep' t hei r
bas ement s c l eat of r ubbi s h and us ed' f ur ni t ur e s pec i al l y int he vi c i ni t y of gas s hut -
of f val ves ' .
2. That at CF B Edmont on t he , r epl ac ement of s ubj ec ~ hos e be ac c el er at ed: by BeEO s t af f .
1. That CGA r e- eval uat e s ubj ec t mDdel ' , f l ex' hos e and if.res ul c s pr ove uns at i s f ac t or y,
s ubj ec t model ' be t ak en' out of s er Vi c e. '
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St ove Gas Shut - of f val ve - Par t i al cl os ed.
Ar r ow - Di r ect i on t o t ur n f or compl et e s hut - of f .
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Cl os e- up of cas ual t y l ocat i on. Not e t r ades man s af et y hel met . PHOTO 1112
Locat i on of cas ual t y. Bl ue X -
Gr een Ar r ow - Locat i on of St ove Gas s hut - of f val ve.
PHOTO #11 Bas ement Ar ea - Eas t wal l i s on t he l ef t .
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DETAILS OF CASUAL TIES - DETAILS DES ACCIDENTS
A, NONCOOEDDATA_ DONNEE SANSINDICATIF
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a. No 1s t , , 2nd, 3r d degr ee, bur ns t o body;
b. No appar ent s moke i nhal at i on;
c . No abnor mal r eadi ngs of CO; CD;)..
d. Def i ni t e i ndi c at i ons of c or onar y obs t r uc t i on;
e. Conc l uded' deat h' was c aus ed' by a.sever e c or onar y t hr ombos i s .
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1. DESCRIPTION OF EOUIPMENT THAT FAILEO - DSCRIPTION DE L'APPAREIL DEFECTUEUX
Nat ur al Gas L i ne F l ex' Hos e c onnec t ed' t o f our bur ner ' Nat ur al Gas s t ove. St ove Model '
Ent er pr i s e 70S . Ser i al 1125197 CSA Appr oved' 1- S- 239 4 . }f f g by' Ent er pr i s e F oundr y Co. L t d.
2. DESCRIPTION OF COMPONENT THAT FAILED - DESCRIPTION DE LA PiEcE DEFECTUEUSE
" Br as ' s / Yel l ow" c ol our ed: Gas F l ex: Hos e : , .The hos e i s c ons t r uc t ed f r om a mi ner al bas e of
br as s .
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t he Res ear c h Counc i l Pr ovi nc e of . Al ber t a. Met al f at i gue due t o c ont ac t wi t h
an ammoni a bas ed' c l eani ng s ol ut i on.
4. DETAILS OF COMPONENT - R~NSEIGNEMENTS SUR LA PIECE
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c. MOD~I.. INC,-UOING MODeLNO.: MOO~LC. Y COMPRI:J LE NUMEA"O:
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Pl umbi . ng Shop - BCEO CF B Edmont on AVANY"'I'fr~i'i~ 79 : . ,14 . Sep 79
s. IDENTITY OF ANY OR ALL NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED TESTING AGENCIES THAT HAVE LISTED THE COMPONENT
ORGANISMES o'ESSAI AECONNUS AU CANADA QUI ONT INSCRIT LA PI~CE DANS LEUR CATALOGUE
1. Canadi an Gas As s oc i at i on ( CGA 73)
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2 . Boar d of St andar ds and Appeal s f or us e i n New' Yor k ' Ci t y under ' CAL No. 707- 49- SM
6. DESCRIPTION OF CORRECTIVE ACTION TAKEN TO PREVENT RECURRENCE _ MESURES PRISES POUR aUE L"NCloENT NE s e tlEPROOVISE PLUS
. Al l gas . f l ex hos es at CF B Edmont on ar e or der ed' L PO
on St oc k number . 8l 276 F A3 60" .
When' or der ed' one of t he f ol l owi ng model s i s . r ec ei ved:
Model ' A -
St ai nl es s ' St eel ' f l ex' hos e ( s i l ver ' c ol our ) ;
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C; -Br as s ' f l ex' hos e " ( br as s / yel ! ol . c ol or ) .
BCEO s t af f have. r ef us ed t o i ns t al l Hodel " C on. new: i ns t al l at i on f or pas t 1:\;0 year s due t o
t hr ead s t r i ppi ng of . c onnec t or s . ' " Al s o have r epl ac ed' al l Model ' C wi t h' Model s A and B when
t hey' ar e avai l abl e. ' . Thi s pr ogr am wi l l be. ac c el er at ed' .
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At 1935 hr s, 3 Nov 11, ' . cont act ed MCpl HANCOCK and conf i r med she
r emember s l i vi ng i n Lancast er Par k on CFB Edmont on dur i ng t he l at e 1970s.
She conf i r med bei ng home when a house f i r e occur r ed i n t he dupl ex she was
l i vi ng i n and her mot her had t o get her out of t he shower t o evacuat e t he
r esi dence. Whi l e l i vi ng at t he r esi dence she r emember s t he i ssues
i nvol vi ng Fat her ' and" r, st at i ng " i t t or e mv f ami l y apar t " . She
was adamant t hat she never wi t nessed her br ot her " sexual l y abusi ng
anot her boy or havi ng sexual i nt er act i ons wi t h anybodv el se. sayi ng " I
woul d r emember somet hi ng l i ke t hat , and I don' t " . di dn' t have
any f ur t her i nf or mat i on t o pr ovi de r egar di ng t hi s i nvest i gat i on.
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Mr BEES' Fat her ( compl et ed)
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a. dat e and t i me;
b. j ur i sdi ct i on;
c. i dent i f y of accused;
d. accused appl i ed f or ce i nt ent i onal l y t o t he vi ct i m, ei t her di r ect l y or
i ndi r ect l y;
e. t he appl i ed f or ce i nvol ved t he t ouchi ng of t he vi ct i m i n an i ndecent
manner wi t hout t he consent of t he vi ct i m;
f . t he accused i nt ended t o t ouch t he vi ct i m f or a sexual pur pose; and
g. t he accused had knowl edge, or r eckl essness of , or wi l f ul bl i ndness
t owar ds t he l ack of consent of t he vi ct i m.
2. Gr oss I ndecency Sect 157 of t he Cr i mi nal Code of Canada ( 1980)
a. dat e and t i me;
b. j ur i sdi ct i on;
c. i dent i f y of accused;
d. accused appl i ed f or ce i nt ent i onal l y t o t he mal e vi ct i m, ei t her di r ect l y
or i ndi r ect l y;
e. t he appl i ed f or ce i nvol ved t he t ouchi ng of t he mal e vi ct i m i n a sexual
manner wi t hout t he consent of t he mal e vi ct i m;
f . t he accused i nt ended t o t ouch t he mal e vi ct i m f or a sexual pur pose; and
g. t he accused had knowl edge, or r eckl essness of , or wi l f ul bl i ndness
t owar ds t he l ack of consent of t he mal e vi ct i m.
1. I ndecent Assaul t on a Mal e Sect 156 of t he Cr i mi nal Code of Canada ( 1980)
El ement s of Of f ence( s) Mat r i x
Taski ng
To i nvest i gat e t he al l eged sexual assaul t on Mr Bobbi e BEES by
, f or I ndecent Assaul t on a Mal e and Gr oss I ndecency i n accor dance
t o t he CC dat ed 1980.
Synopsi s
On 5 Mar 11, Mr Bobbi e BEES cont act ed cont act ed t he Edmont on Pol i ce
Ser vi ce t o r epor t t hat he had been sexual l y assaul t ed whi l e he r esi ded at
CFB Namao i n t he 1970s. The CFNI S WR Det achment assumed i nvest i gat i ve
r esponsi bi l i t y f or t hi s al l eged sexual of f ense and MS DUMAS l ear ned t hat Mr
BEES has al l eged t hat he was sexual l y assaul t ed by hi s babysi t t er ,
, when he was ei ght year s of age.
Rel at ed Fi l es
Repor t Capt i on SEXUAL ASSAULT
8 Mar 11 Dat e
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Revi ewed by: WO BONNETEAU
Dat e r evi ewed: 15 Apr 11
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Dat e compi l ed: 8 Mar 2011
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1. I nt er vi ew compl ai nant / vi ct i m - ( compl et ed)
2. i dent i f y any and al l pot ent i al wi t nesses; - ( compl et ed)
3. conf i r m vi ct i ms r esi dence i n CFB Edmont on i n 1980. Use Ar chi ves Canada;
- r ecor ds not avai l abl e ( compl et ed)
4. conf i r m subj ect ' s r esi dence at t i me of al l eged sexual assaul t ; - r ecor ds
not avai l abl e ( compl et ed)
5. f ul l y i dent i f y subj ect and cur r ent l ocat i on; - ( compl et ed)
6. conduct i nt er vi ews of pot ent i al wi t nesses; - ( compl et ed)
7. conduct subj ect i nt er vi ew - ( not wi l l i ng t o par t i ci pat e)
- Mr BEES' Br ot her / Vi ct i m ( compl et ed)
- Subj ect ( decl i ned t o be i nt er vi ewed)
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At 1335 hr s, 7 Mar 11, WO HART at t empt ed t o cont act Mr BEES i n r egar ds t o
hi s compl ai nt t o EPS. Ther e was no answer t o Mr BEES' phone and a voi ce
mai l message was l ef t st at i ng WO HART woul d at t empt t o r each MR BEES at a
l at er t i me. Mr BEES was al so pr ovi ded wi t h WO HART' s cont act i nf o so he
coul d al so cont act hi m at hi s conveni ence.
ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITY
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3. WO HART assur ed Mr BEES someone f r om t hi s of f i ce be i n t ouch shor t l y t o
t ake hi s compl ai nt and i f i t was conf i r med t he mat t er was wi t hi n MP
j ur i sdi ct i on i t woul d be i nvest i gat ed.
2. Mr BEES f ur t her r el at ed i n 2006 he " sent a l et t er t o DND" r epor t i ng t he
mat t er and i n r epl y he r ecei ved a l et t er f r om t he CF Ombudsman' s of f i ce
st at i ng t he opi ni on t hat because t he mat t er onl y i nvol ved ci vi l i ans and no
CF per sonnel i t must be r epor t ed t o a ci vi l i an agency vi ce t he mi l i t ar y
pol i ce.
1. At 1503 hr s, 7 Mar 11 Mr BEES r et ur ned WO HART' s ear l i er phone cal l .
WO HART enqui r ed as t o who had i nf or med Mr BEES t hat t he CFNI S/ MPs woul d
not i nvest i gat e hi s compl ai nt , at whi ch t i me Mr BEES expl ai ned i n appr ox
1990 he had at t ended t he Edmont on Gar r i son MP Det and at t empt ed t o r epor t
t he mat t er and i t was at t hat t i me he was di r ect ed t o r epor t t he mat t er t o
t he Edmont on Pol i ce Ser vi ce ( EPS) . Mr BEES f ur t her st at ed when he
at t empt ed t o r epor t t he mat t er t o EPS t hey decl i ned t o t ake t he compl ai nt
as i t was out si de of t hei r geogr aphi cal j ur i sdi ct i on.
BEES BOBBIE GARNET
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At 1700 hr s, 18 Mar 11, Mr BEES cont act ed MS DUMAS and spoke wi t h hi m
r egar di ng possi bl e ar r angement s f or an i nt er vi ew. As MS DUMAS woul d be away
on t aski ng f or an unr el at ed mat t er , MCpl HANCOCK spoke wi t h Mr BEES and
l ear ned t hat he was now wor ki ng f ul l t i me and was avai l abl e af t er wor k
ar ound 1700 hr s, on weekdays.
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At 1315 hr s, 28 Mar 11, MCpl HANCOCK at t empt ed t o cont act Mr BEES but was
met wi t h negat i ve r esul t s. A message wi t h cont act i nf or mat i on was l ef t
r equest i ng a cal l back.
Attempt contact Mr Bees
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At 1331 hr s, 28 Mar 11, Mr BEES cal l ed MCpl HANCOCK back and i nf or med he
woul d be avai l abl e f or an i nt er vi ew at 1800 hr s, 31 Mar 11. MCpl HANCOCK
i nf or med he woul d make ar r angement s t o secur e a l ocat i on t o conduct t he
i nt er vi ew at a Vancouver Pol i ce Depar t ment ( VPD) bui l di ng and cal l hi m
back.
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Contact Mr Bees
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At 1350 hr s, 28 Mar I I , MCpl HANCOCK cont act ed VPD and l ear ned an i nt er vi ew
r oom coul d be ar r anged t hr ough t he admi ni st r at i on cl er k i n t he Maj or Cr i mes
Sect i on, vi a t he VPD swi t chboar d. MCpl HANCOCK was t r ansf er r ed f r om t he
swi t chboar d t o Maj or Cr i mes Admi ni st r at i on and l ef t a message r equest i ng a
cal l back r ef er ence booki ng an i nt er vi ew r oom.
ContactVPD
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At 1615 hr s, 29 Mar 11, MCpl HANCOCK r ecei ved a cal l f r om t he VPD Maj or
Cr i mes Admi ni st r at i on of f i ce and conf i r med an i nt er vi ew r oom woul d be
avai l abl e f or 1800 hr s, 31 Mar 11, at 3585 Gr avel ey St , Vancouver , BC.
Interview location Mr Bees
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MCpl CYR not es t hat due t o a maj or basement f l ood at t he CFNI S WR of f i ce,
t hi s f i l e wi l l be pr i or i t i zed accor di ngl y_
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At 1100 hr s, 29 Apr 11, MCpl CYR cont act ed Al ber t a Lear ni ng i n t he at t empt
t o conf i r m t hat Mr BEES ( t hen I and - - di d at t end
Gut hr i e School , CFB Edmont on, AB, i n t he l at e 197U' s. MCp~ CYR was
i nf or med t hat a sear ch woul d be conduct ed and a r epl y t o t he r equest woul d
be next week.
CONTACT ALBERT A LEARNING
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At 0941 hr s, 2 May I I , MCpl CYR r ecei ved a voi ce message f r om Al ber t a
Lear ni ng st at i ng t hat t hey do not have have any r ecor ds f or Gut hr i e School
as al l i nf or mat i on f or t he school was t r ansf er ed t o t he St ur geon Count y
School Di st r i ct i n 1993. A l ocal cont act number f or t he St ur geon Count y
School Di st r i ct of 780- 939- 4341 was pr ovi ded.
CALL BACK ALBERTA LEARNING
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2. At 1040 hr s, 2 May 11, MCpl CYR r ecei ved a t el ephone cal l f r om t he
St ur geon Count y School Di st r i ct st at i ng t hat t hey dest r oy st udent r ecor ds
seven ( 7) year s af t er t hey gr aduat e gr ade t wel ve, t hus t hey woul d not have
any st udent r ecor ds f r om t he l at e 1970' s.
1. At 1004 hr s, 2 May 11, MCpl CYR cont act ed t he St ur geon Count y School
Di st r i ct t o i nqui r e i f Mr BEES' s and ' s r ecor ds wer e on f i l e
f r om Gut hr i e School . A voi ce message was l et t r equest i ng a cal l back.
CONTACT STURGEON COUNTY
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2. At 1315 hr s, 2 May I I , r cont act ed MCpl CYR and an i nt er vi ew
was schedul ed f or 1000 hr s, 3 May I I , at t he St ur geon Count y Hi gp School ,
Namao, AB. The pur pose of t he i nt er vi ew wi l l be t o det er mi ne i f
can r emember and conf i r m i f Mr BEES , at t he t i me) and'
at t ended t he Gut hr i e School i n t he l at e 1970' s. Al so t o
det er mi ne i f ~ can pr ovi de t he name of s ol der si st er .
1. At 1145 hr s, 2 May I I , MCpl CYR cont act ed' i n t he at t empt t o
det er mi ne i f he coul d pr ovi de f ur t her i nf or mat i on i nt o t hi s i nvest i gat i on.
MCpl CYR l ef t a voi ce message r equest i ng a cal l back wi t h al l of MCpl CYR' s
appr opr i at e cont act i nf or mat i on.
CONTACT)
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6. Do you r emember t he name of I f yes, get a descr i pt i on
i f possi bl e? What gr ade he woul d have been? How wel l di d you know hi m?
Anyt hi ng unusual you coul d r emember ? Do you r emember anyt hi ng bei ng sai d
about hi m? Can you r emember what ki nd of per son he was?
5. Do you r emember i f he had any br ot her s or si st er s? Ol der or younger ?
4. Do you r emember t he name of ( compl ai nant s or i gi nal name) ?
I f yes, get a descr i pt i on i f possi bl e? What gr ade he woul d have been i n?
How wel l di d you know hi m? Anyt hi ng unusual you coul d r emember ? Di d he
ever make any compl ai nt s t o you?
3. Do you have a good r ecol l ect i on of st udent s t hat wer e at t endi ng t he
school i n t he l at e 1970' s?
2. Ar e you st i l l empl oyed at t he Gut hr i e school ?
1. Have you ever been empl oyed as a t eacher at t he Gut hr i e school ? I f
yes, what wer e t he year s? 1978 t o 1980?
** Get hi m t o expl ai n why speaki ng wi t h CFNI S I nvest i gat or
** At t endance &par t i ci pat i on i s vol unt ar y
** Pr i vacy agr eement
** Not e t aker moni t or i ng t he i nt er vi ew
** Audi o r ecor ded
** I nt r oduct i on of i nt er vi ew ( cr edent i al s)
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7 Mar 11, Mr BEES cont act ed t he CFNI S WR and st at ed t hat he had been
sexual l y assaul t ed by a mal e babysi t t er whi l e r esi di ng at CFB Edmont on i n
t he J ~r e 1970' s. Mr BEES f ur t her r el at ed t hat t he name of t he babysi t t er
was J
SYNOPSI S:
Lead I nvest i gat or : MS DUMAS
Pr i mar y Not e Taker : MS DUMAS
I nt er vi ew: MCpl CYR
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10. Of f er al l appr opr i at e cont act i nf or mat i on.
9. I s t her e anyt hi ng el se t hat you woul d l i ke t o add t hat woul d be
r el evant t o t hi s i nvest i gat i on?
8. Do you r emember i f he had any br ot her s or si st er s? Ol der or younger ?
7. Do you r emember hi s f at her ' s name? Do you r emember wer e t hey l i ved?
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At 1345 hr s, 3 May 11, MCpl CYR at t empt ed t o cont act Mr BEES i nqui r i ng i f
he coul d r emember t he f i r st name of - - - .; ol der si st er t hat had
wi t nessed one of t he sexual assaul t s by I MCpl CYR l ef t a
voi ce message det ai l i ng t he above ment i oned i nf or mat i on and f ur t her st at i ng
t hat MCpl CYR was now t he l ead i nvest i gat or and r equest ed a cal l back. Al l
of MCpl CYR' s cont act i nf or mat i on was pr ovi ded i n t he voi ce message.
CONTACT MR BEES
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4. Al l of MCpl CYR' s cont act i nf or mat i on was l ef t wi t h Mr BEES.
4. When MCpl CYR i nqui r ed i f he r emember ed bei ng i nvol ved
wi t h a Padr e i n ~hp. l Mt e 1970' s, Mr BEES st at ed t hat he r emember goi ng t o
chur ch wi t h f but t hat not hi ng ever happened and does not know
i f anyt hi ng ever happened bet ween t he Padr e and
3. MCpl CYR i nf or mp. d Mr BEES t hat conf i r mat i on woul d have t o be m~ne t hat
t he T seen i n t he year book and a possi bl e
i dent i f i ed at t hi s t . i me ar e t he same one bef or e goi ng any t ur t ne: r :ClHU.
at t empt t o i dent i f y s si st er .
2. When MCpl CYR i nf or med Mr BEES t hat he ( MCpl CYR) had possi bl y seen a
pi ct ur e of i n a 1978- 1979 Gut hr i e School year book whe~
~ was i n Gr ade 7, Mr BEES became upset wi t h hi msel f and st at ed, " Ah
man! ! ! When I made t hi s compl ai nt , I al ways t hought vas l i ke 16, 17
or 18 or somet hi ng l i ke t hat , not ar ound 13. "
c. he coul d not r emember her f i r st name or an i ni t i al of her f i r st name.
b. t hat she woul d have been a st udent at t he Gut hr i e School , CFB Edmont on,
AB, as wel l ; and
a. he al ways bel i eved t hat s si st er was younger and not
ol der , i n whi ch she woul d have been i n Gr ade 5 or 6 at t he t i me of t he
sexual assaul t t hat she wi t nessed;
1. At 1433 hr s, 3 May 11, Mr BEES cont act ed MCpl CYR and pr ovi ded t he
f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
CALL BACK MR BEES
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c. Mr BEES was r equest i ng t hat CFNI S WR VSO cont act hi m soonest .
" ; and b. t he name of t he Padr e was'
a. af t er our phone conver sat i on yest er day, Mr BEES di scover ed t hat
f i l ed a l awsui t ( unknown t ype) i n ear l y 2000 agai nst a Padr e
Ll l dt was post ed at CFB Edmont on, AB, i n t he l at e 1970' s;
1. At 2009 hr s, 3 May 11, Mr BEES l ef t a voi ce message on MCpl CYR' s
phone, whi ch st at ed t he f ol l owi ng:
PHONE MESSAGE MR BEES
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At 0805 hr s, 4 May 11, MCpl CYR i nf or med CFNI S WR VSO of t he phone message
f r omMr BEES and f ur t her i nf or med VSo t hat Mr BEES r equest ed t hat VSo
cont act hi m.
ADVISE CFNIS WR VSO
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2. MCpl CYR al so i nf or med Mr BEES t hat t he CFNI S WR VSO had been
per sonal l y advi sed by MCpl CYR t hat he ( Mr BEES) r equest ed a cal l back.
; si st er i s " c. he bel i eved t hat f i r st name of
b. h= fnlmrl t : hr ough an I nt er net Googl e sear ch " CFB Namao Mol pst i ng Pr i est "
t hat had f i l ed a l awsui t i n 2001 agai nst f or mi l l i ons
of dol l ar s; and
~ t - hef ul l name and pr oper spel l i ng of t he Padr e i nvol ved was
1. At 0815 hr s, 4 May 11, Mr BEES cont act ed MCpl CYR vi a t el ephone and
pr ovi ded t he f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
CONTACT MR BEES
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2. The Communi t y Rel at i ons Of f i cer was abl e t o pr ovi de a possi bl e mar r i ed
name of When t he mai den name of was
vi ewed/ i t def aul t ed t o DOB wi t h a Cal gar y
addr ess/ but no phone number .
by MS DUMAS/ MCpl CYR at t ended t he
AB/ and conf i r med t hat no r ecor ds of
at t ended t hat school bet ween t he
wni ch i ncl uded Gr ade 10/ 11 and 12.
books/ al l of whi ch met wi t h negat i ve
1. At 1405 hr s/ 4 May 11/ accompani ed
Queen El i zabet h Hi gh School / Edmont on/
a f emal e wi t h t he l ast name of
year s of 1978 and 1980 i n any gr ade/
MCpl CYR l ooked t hr ough al l ol d year
r esul t s.
ATTEND QUEEN ELIZABETH IDGH
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2. St ur geon Communi t y Hi gh School st af f al so made cont act wi t h Al ber t a
Lear ni ng t o check al l r ecor ds f or a . I, 1 and et ween t he
year s of 1977 and 1980, al l of whi ch met wi t n negat i ve r esul t s.
1. At 1155 hr s, 5 May 11, accompani ed by MS DUMAS, MCpl CYR at t ended t he
St ur geon Communi t y Hi gh School , Edmont on, AB, and conf i r med t hat no r ecor ds
of a f emal e wi t h t he l ast name of at t ended t hat school bet ween
. t he year s of 1978 and 1980 i n any gr ade wn~ch i ncl uded Gr ade 10, 11 and 12.
MCpl CYR l ooked t hr ough al l ol d year books, al l of whi ch met wi t h negat i ve
r esul t s.
ATTEND STURGEON HIGH SCHOOL
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At 0750 hr s, 13 May 11, MCpl CYR r equest ed t he assi st ance of t he CFNI S WR
Rr . Tr . . i n or ooer l y i dent i f yi ng ' s si st er , as wel l as, conf i r mi ng
i dent i t y and known addr ess.
REQUEST RCIC ASSISTANCE
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MCpl CYR wi l l be away on HHT f r om 16 - 22 May 11.
AWAY ON llliT
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2. 27 May 11, MCpl CYR spoke wi t h P02 GI ES ~nd i t was det er mi ned t hat wi t h
t he pr esent l ack of i nf or mat i on of ' s si st er , i t woul d be
i mnn~~i bl e t o l ocat e her . I t was det er mi ned t o cont act t he f at her of
_n t he at t empt t o l ocat e hi s daught er , whi ch i s a possi bl e
wi t ness t o one of t he sexual assaul t s t hat occur r ed at CFB/ ASU Edmont on i n
t he 1980' s.
1. MCpl CYR pl ease meet wi t h P02 GI ES when you r et ur n. Requi r e addi t i onal
i nf or mat i on f or your r equest .
RCICWR
Author: 4711 GIES, GEORGE
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3. MCpl CYR wi l l cont i nue ~o make at t empt s t o cont act bot h number s t o
conf i r m t he cor r ect Mr BEES' f at her ) , as t o det er mi ne i f he
can i dent i f y t he si st er of t he subj ect .
2. MCpl CYR at t empt ed t o cont act bot h t el ephone number s whi ch met wi t h
~~~~+- ~.. ~ ~~~' l lt s i n whi ch no voi ce messages capabi l i t i es wer e avai l abl e f or
~, but t hat a voi ce message i dent i f yi ng MCpl CYR and r equest i ng
a cal l back f or ' as l ef t .
b.
arid a.
,
f ol l owi ng
f at her 1. At 1300 hr s, 30 May 11, MCpl CYR at t empt ed t o cont act
of Mr BEES. Due t o Mr BEES not bei ng abl e t o pr ovi de any cont act
i nf or mat i on f or hi s f at her , but onl y t hat he r esi des i n .
MCpl CYR conduct ed a Canada Whi t e Pages sear ch whi ch r eveal ed t he
i nf or mat i on as possi bi l i t i es:
ATTEMPT CONTACT I
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At 1334 hr s, 2 J un 11, MCpl CYR at t empt ed t o cont act , whi ch met
wi t h negat i ve r esul t s i n whi ch a voi ce message i dent i f yi ng MCpl CYR and
r equest i ng a cal l back f or was l ef t .
ATTEMPT CONTACT ~
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( Mr BEES' s f at her ) as he mi ght
i st er t hat wal ked i n on
3. I t i s i mpor t ant t o speak wi t h
r emember t he name of t he subj ect ' s (I
one of t he sexual assaul t s.
2. MCpl CYR wi l l at t end t he r esi dence of l. vhi . ohi s l ocat ed i n
Mor i nvi l l e, AB, next week i n t he at t empt t o l ocat e hi m.
1. At 1600 hr s, 3 J un 11, ( whi ch MCpl CYR had l ef t voi ce messages
r equest i ng a cal l back) has yet t o cont act MCpl CYR at t hi s t i me.
NOTE
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At 1130 hr s, 8 J un I I , accompani ed by MCpl PETERS. MCpl CYR at t ended t he
r esi dence of : l ocat ed at , i n t he
at t empt t o make cont act , Whl Ch met wi t h negat i ve r esul t s. MCpl CYR l ef t a
busi ness car d wi t h al l appr opr i at e cont act i nf or mat i on and al so wr ot e on
t he car d t o cont act MCpl CYR.
ATTEND RESIDENCE
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; ont act ed MCpl CYR and conf i r med and 2. At 1150 hr s, 9 J un 11, I
i nt er vi ew at 1400 hr s, 9 J un 11.
1. At 1040 hr s, 9 J un 11, ) nt act ed MCpl CYR af t er at t en~i nq hi s
r esi dence ( AA #27 r ef er s) , at whi ch t i me MCpl CYR conf i r med wi t h,
t hat he was t he f at her of Mr BEES. MCpl CYR expl ai ned t o J t hat he
woul d l i ke t o speak wi t h hi m i n r ef er ence t o t he al l egat i on of sexual
assaul t t hat hi s son had br ought f or war d. st at ed t hat he woul d be
wi l l i ng t o at t end t he CFNI S WR of f i ce t o be i nt er vi ewed. As he was
pr esent l y wor ki ng, he woul d l ook at hi s schedul e and conf i r m an i nt er vi ew
t i me and dat e wi t h MCpl CYR l at er t oday.
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17. Any ot her r el evant quest i ons
16. Di d your son ever i nf or m you t hat as a chi l d t hat he had been sexual l y
assaul t ed? When?
17. Do you r emember of a house expl odi ng on base? Was near your s?
16. Do you r emember i f t he babysi t t er had a si st er ? Younger or ol der ?
15. Can you descr i be t he babysi t t er ?
- - . . . . . . . . . T . . . ,
I f yes, Mal e or f emal e? 14. Di d you ever get a babysi t t er f or your sons?
get name. Ask i f he r emember s t he name of
13. I n what year di d you separ at e f r om Mr BEES' s mot her ?
12. Can you descr i bed i n whi ch house ( PMQ) you wer e l i vi ng when you post ed
i n Edmont on i n t he 1970' s? Di d you st ay i n t he same PMQ t he hol e post i ng,
f or t hose year s? Conf i r m i f hi s PMQ was on base or i n Gr i esbach, Edmont on,
AB. Get hi m t o dr aw a sket ch t o compar e wi t h Mr BEES' s sket ch.
11. Wher e i s Mr BEES, your son, l i vi ng at t hi s t i me?
10. What ar e your sons names? Get pr evi ous name of " Mr Bobby BEES" f or
conf i r mat i on. Di d t hey r esi de wi t h you? What school di d t hey at t end?
9. Wer e you i n t he mi l i t ar y? Wher e wer e you post ed dur i ng your car eer ?
Conf i r m year s, dat es when post ed t o Edmont on.
8. " I am i nvest i gat i ng t he al l egat i on of Sexual Assaul t t hat your son Mr
BEES br ought f or war d when r esi di ng at CFB/ ASU Edmont on, AB"
7. Ask i f t hey know why t hey ar e her e t oday.
6. Sel l your sel f as an i nvest i gat or .
5. Expl ai n t he r ol e of t he CFNI S and your r esponsi bi l i t i es as an
i nvest i gat or .
4. Bui l d r appor t wi t h hi m.
3. Obt ai n i dent i f i cat i on and ver i f y i t l S accur at e i n SAMPI S.
2. Advi se about t he audi o/ vi deo r ecor di ng of t he i nt er vi ew.
1. I nt r oduce your sel f .
I NTERVI EW PLAN
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INT ERVIEW PLAN - j
Author: 5161 CYR, CHRIST IAN
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vi shed a good day t o Sgt CYR and hung up t he phone. d.
c. hi s son wi l l al so not be speaki ng wi t h Sgt CYR about t hi s
i nvest i gat i on; and
b. he wi l l not be speaki ng about t hi s i nvest i gat i on any f ur t her wi t h Sgt
CYR;
had di d t o hi m ( sexual l y a. hi s son was i l l due t o what Fat her i
assaul t ed hi m as a boy) ;
2. At t hi s t i me I ( f at her of possi bl e subj ect ) came ont o t he
phone. Sgt CYR i dent i f i ed hi msel f and pr ovi ded t he r eason of t he phone
call. -_ provided the following information:
b. when asked wher e she was pr esent l y l ocat ed, t he f emal e st at ed " j ust
gi ve me a second I wi l l get my husband" .
i had a daught er , she st at ed " yes my st ep
and her husband wnr ks f or t he mi l i t ar y
" , " " or " Sgt CYR di d not
pr oper spel l i ng or r ank, ci vi l i an or mi l i t ar y
a. when asked i f 1 _ ._
daught er , her name i s
wi t h t he f i r st name of "
have a chance t o ask f or
member ; and
1. At 1345 hr s, 21 J un 11, Sgt CYR cont act ed ( f at her of
possi bl e subj ect ) . Unnn m~ki na cont act , a f emal e whi ch i dent i f i ed her sel f
as bei ng t he wi f e of . ~nswer ed t he phone and af t er Sgt CYR
i dent i f i ed hi msel f and pr ovi ded t he r eason of t he phone cal l she pr ovi ded
t he f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
ADMINISTRA TTVF.AC'TTvny
CONTACT I._ _ .. ,leATHER)
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2. On 22 J un 11, P02 GI ES, CFNI S WR RCl C, was unabl e t o i dent i f y a ;
or ,
t hr ough Out l ook, whi ch met
t hp ~ssi st ance of P02 Gl ES, CFNl S
and t o t hen i dent i f y hi s
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1. Af t er at t empt i ng t o i dent i f y a
wi t h negat i ve r esul t s, Sgt CYR r eques~pr l
WR RCl C i n t he at t empt t o i dent i f y a
wi f e whi ch i s t he si st er of I
wi t nessed a sexual assaul t .
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1. At 1342 hr s, 28 J un 11, P02 GI ES, CFNI S WR RCI C, i nf or med Sgt CYR t hat
he had a possi bl e mat ch f or wi t h t he f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
CFNIS WR RCIC INFORMATION
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2. Sgt CYR updat ed Mr BEES' s ent i t y f i el d as r equi r ed i mmedi at el y.
b. mai l i ng addr ess
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a. new r esi dent i al addr ess
1. At 1141 hr s, 29 J un 11, Sgt CYR r ecei ved an e- mai l f r om CFNI S WR VSO,
i ndi cat i ng t hat Mr BEES had a new home addr ess, whi ch was t he f ol l owi ng:
NEW ADDRESS MR BEES
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At 1330 hr s, 19 J ul 11, pal MORRI S emai l ed Mr BEES and pr ovi ded hi m wi t h
t he cont act i nf or mat i on of t he new Case Manager f or CFNI S WR( P01 MORRI S)
f or hi s f i l e. Thi s i nf or mat i on was r equest ed by Mr BEES vi a an emai l sent
t o WO HART.
Case Manager Contact info
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I ampost ed out of t he Edmont on of f i ce and as such I amno l onger act i vel y case managi ng
i nvest i gat i ons. As weLl , HCpl Cyr has been r eassi gned f r om t hi s of f i ce and your
i nvest i gat i on has been r eassi gned.
Mr Bees
Fr om: Har t WO BR@CFNI S@Edmont on
Sent M~nn~v. 18, J ul y, 2011 20: 18 PM
To:
Subject: Re: K~VA~W ~~ tus.
Le pr esent message et t out es l es pi eces j oi nt es qui l ' accompagne cont i enne de
l ' i nf or mat i on sensi bl e au pr ot egee dest i nee uni quement a l a per sonne ou a l ' ent i t e a
l aguel l e el l e est adr essee. Tout e di f f usi on, di st r i but i on, copi e au aut r e action
concer nant son cont enu par une aut r e per sonne que son dest i nat ai r e est st r i ct ement
i nt er di t . Si vous avez r e9u ce message par er r eur , veui l l ez m' en i nf or mer i mmedi at ement a
l ' adr esse ci - dessus et l ' ef f acer . Mer ci
Of f i ce: 780- 973- 4011 ext 5008
Fax: 780- 973- 1648
CSN: 528-5008
Emai l : st even. mor r i s3@f or ces. gc. ca
POI S. M. ( St eve) Mor r i s
CFNI S West er n Regi on
Nat i onal Def ence
Bui l di ng 304
P. O Box 10500
Gover nment of Canada
My name i s Pet t y Of f i cer 1st Cl ass St eve Mor r i s. I amNO Bl ai r Har t s r epl acement as t he
Case Manager f or CFNI S West er n Regi on. Shoul d you have any concer ns about your f i l e pl ease
cont act mysel f di r ect l y. My Cont act i nf or mat i on i s l ocat ed bel ow.
Mr Bees,
Fr om: <STEVEN. ~I ORRI S3@f or ces.gc. cas
nate - ~..- ,0 .Tn' ~O'_l 13: 29: 32
To:
CCl <J UDY. BI SCHLER@I or ces. y~. ~~>
Subj ect : FN: Revi ew of case st at us.
I t ' s al l good at t he moment . No need t o wor r y.
Thursday, 21, J uly, 2011 1::l:<!1
Morris P01SM@CFNIS@Edmonlon
Bischler J @CFNIS@Edmonton
Re: Reviewof case status.
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WO HART i nf or med Cst FRENCH t hat t hi s of f i ce was i n f act al r eady
i nvest i gat i ng Mr BEES' compl ai nt and t hat Mr BEES had pr evi ousl y t r i ed t o
r epor t t hi s t o t he RCMP and Edmont on Pol i ce Ser vi ce bef or e br i ngi ng t he
mat t er t o our at t ent i on. Cst FRENCH St at ed he j ust want ed t o ensur e t he
mat t er was i n f act bei ng i nvest i gat ed and t hat no f ur t her act i on was
r equi r ed by hi s of f i ce.
At 1500 hr s, 29 J ul 11 WO HART r ecei ved a phone cal l f r om Cst Shawn
FRENCH wi t h t he Mor i nvi l l e RCMP. Cst FRENCH i nf or med WO HART t hat hi s
of f i ce had r ecei ved a compl ai nt f r om Mr Bobby BEES out l i ni ng t hat he had
been sexual l y assaul t ed whi l e he l i ved i n t he housi ng uni t s wi t hi n CFB
Edmont on at t he Gr i esbaugh l ocat i on. Upon r ecei vi ng t he compl ai nt Cst
FRENCH had conduct ed a CPI C check whi ch r eveal ed t he r ecent
by Mr BEES and hi s i nvol vement wi t h t hi s of f i ce and t he Vancouver Pol l ce
Dept .
MORINVILLE RCMP CONTACT
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On 9 Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK r evi ewed t hi s f i l e and assumed t he r ol e as t he
l ead i nvest i gat or .
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At 0831 hr s, 9 Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK at t empt ed t o cont act r at
hi s r esi dence but was met wi t h negat i ve r esul t s. Fur t her at t empt s t o
cont act hi m l at er i n t he day wi l l be made.
Attempt contact _
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At 1040 hr sl 9 Aug 111 MCpl HANCOCK conduct ed an el ect r oni c sear ch f or Mr
BEES' br ot her ' s cont act i nf or mat i on as i t was ear l i er i ndi cat ed hi s
br ot her l may have i nf or mat i on t o assi st i n t hi s i nvest i gat i on.
An Al ber t a Dr i ver ' s Li cence mat ch was l ocat ed f or , . A phone cal l
t o t he number at t ached t o t he DL was pl aced and a message wi t h cont act
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At 1315 hr s, 9 Auq 11, MCpl HANCOCK cont act ed t he j ence and
spoke wi t h j'v s f at her , who i ndi cat ed t hat . - had
ser ved hi s t i me f or t hi ngs t hat occur r ed 20- 30 year s ago and woul dn' t have
anyt hi ng t r "''''v rlhnllr i t _ I t was expl ai ned t hat i nvest i gat or s needed t o
soeak wi t h 0_ l i r ect l y t o r equest a vol unt ar y i nt er vi ew wi t h hi m.
wasn' t at t hp r p. Ri npnr A at t he t i me so cont act i nf or mat i on was
l ef t t o be passed on t o so he coul d cal l MCpl HANCOCK back.
Attempt contact
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At 0820 hr s, 23 Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK r ecei ved a message l ef t on hi s wor k
ext ensi on f r om Mr BEES. The message i ndi cat ed t hat Mr BEES had obt ai ned hi s
1981 Chi l d I nt er vent i on f i l e f r om t he Al ber t a Gover nment . He i nf or med t he
f i l e was 195 document s, whi ch out l i ned t hat hi s f at her di dn' t have much
i nvol vement wi t h hi s r . hi l dr en. Af t er movi ng t o ON i n 1983, Mr BEES was
supposed t o r ecei ve. _ but hi s f at her never f ol l owed up
on t he r ecommendat i on.
Message from Mr Bees
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At 1115 hr s, 23 Aug 11, POl Mor r i s t el ephoned Mr Bees af t er r ecei vi ng a
phone message. Mr Bees st at ed he was i nqui r i ng how t o obt ai n hi s medi cal
r ecor ds t hat ar e l ocat ed on hi s f at her s medi cal r ecor ds. Mr Bees was
i nst r uct ed by POl Mor r i s t o conduct an ATI r equest on hi s f at her s r ecor ds.
Mr Bees al so st at ed t hat he was abused and i f hi s mot her f ound out t hat he
was abused by t he pr i est , hi s f at her woul d not have sol e cust ody and t hen
hi s f at her woul d have t o pay chi l d suppor t . Mr Bees went on t o say t hat t he
f ami l y was moved out of Al ber t a by hi s f at her i n a ef f or t t o st op hi s son
f r om seeki ng medi cal at t ent i on f or t he sexual assaul t .
telephone call with Mr Bees
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2. Af t er r evi ewi ng t he emai l , MCpl HANCOCK l i st ened t o a t el ephone voi ce
message l ef t on hi s wor k ext ensi on. The message had been l ef t at 1022 hr s,
23 Aug 11, f r om Mr BEES r equest i ng a cal l back. I t was l ear ned t hat POl
MORRI S had al r eady spoken t o Mr BEES si nce t he message was l ef t .
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1. At 0950 hr s, 25 Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK r evi ewed an emai l f or war ded t o hi m
f r om POl MORRI S t hat was composed by Mr BEES. A r evi ew of t he emai l
r Aveal ed t hat Mr BEES bel i eves t her e i s mor e i nci dent s of sexual assaul t by
t hen or i gi nal l y di scl osed. He had obt ai ned document s f r om t he
Chi l d I nt er vent i on Pr ogr am he was i nvol ved i n when l i vi ng i n CFB Edmont on
as a chi l d and i ndi cat ed hi s f at her wasn' t a wi l l i ng par t i ci pant i n t he
pr ogr am. He al so st at ed i n t he emai l t hat hi s f at her , . - and
possi bl y t he mi l i t ar y was t o bl ame ' f or bei ng as I am' . Mr BE~S i nf or med he
wasn' t af ~er money as a ur i . mar y goal st at i ng hi s ' mot i vat i on i n t hi s i s t o
get an apol ogy f r om
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Wel l , t hi s as Iknow now i s a compl et e cr ock of shi t ( par don my Fr ench) .
Accor di ng t o t he f i l es t hat Inow have t hanks t o an FOr , my f at her was bei ng compl et el y
uncooperative with the program. Didn't "'/ant to sho~'J up to Lrrt ervi.ews , wasn't being
t r ut hf ul wi t h i nf or mat i on, was bei ng mani pul at i ve, was di sobeyi ng di r ect or der s f r omhi s
commandi ng of f i cer t o at t end t he t her apy sessi ons, was def l ect i ng bl ame f or f ami l y
di f f i cul t i es on t o ot her s. He had t he bal l s t o bl ame hi s own mot her f or conceal i ng
and mine poor p~- F~~m~nr . e at school.
He cl ai med t hat IS har r asi ng hi m and hi s wi f e f or no r eason. He cl ai med
i n a cal l t o Capt ai n T. TOt zke t hat t he pr ogr am was a Pi l e of shi t " even t hough he woul d
t el l t he counsel l or s t he pr ogr am was gr eat .
I t woul d appear s t hat even t hough Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke ' i nt er vened'
and cancel l ed my f at her ' s var i ous post i ngs somehow my f at her was abl e t o sneak t he one f or
CFB Downsvi ew. Thi s came as a compl et e shock t o t he counsel l or s. Ther e i s a gener al sense
i n t he document s t hat my f at her knew ahead of t i me of hi s post i ng as he kept t el l i ng t he
counsel l or s t hat he woul d be happy t o at t end meet i ngs af t er f ebr uar y 28t h, 1983. vie moved
Qu ~he t i me was 8 I al r eady endur e qui t e a bi t i n my l i f e. But havi ng t o endur e
was mor e t han any ki d shoul d ever have t o endur e.
Now, ~nr owUII LV~ of that, being taken out of Major General Greisbach School for
behavi our al pr obl ems.
When r was i n t he ' chi l d i nt er vent i on pr ogr am' my f at her used t o spar e no expense i n
maki ng me under st and t hat i t was my f aul t . That if I si mpl y st opped ' pl ayi ng' wi t h ot her
boys, Icoul d go back t o r egul ar school . Of cour se t hi s i s not t he r eason I was i n t he
i nt er vent i on pr ogr am. As I ' m f i ndi ng out , t he counsel l or s had some ver y ser i ous concer ns
about me, my br ot her and t he sui t abi l i t y of l i vi ng i n t he home wi t h my f at her and hi s
common law wife.
Nhen we r ecei ved our post i ng t o Cf B Downsvi e~1i n 1983, my f at her kept t el l i ng me t hat i t
was my f aul t , t hat i f I, . asn' t queer t hey ( t he
cousel l or s) woul dn' t be want i ng t o t r y t o gi ve me dr ugs t o f i x my pr obl ems.
He cl ai med t he r eason we moved was t hat he was savi ng me f r om ' t hem'
t est i ng t hei r dr ugs on me.
as psychol ogi cal consul t ant . That was me at 9. f r om and i nt er vi ew wi t h
f i r st , some quot es:
liMy nerves are disintegrating"
" My mi nd t el l s me t hat I ' m goi ng t o ki l l mysel f "
"I Imgoing to have a nervous br eekdown if granny doesn I t leave the house soon"
Ij ust t hought I ' d dr op a qui ok l et t er . Hopef ul l y Ican expl ai n my r easons behi nd doi ng
t hi s.
Good afternoon gentlemen,
- - - - - Or i gi nal Mesr ' ~Q- - - - -
f r om: Bobbi e Bees .
To: Mor r i s POI SM@Cf NI : : ; ~t . ul l l v" _ ~" , _ r t . nanock@f or ces. gc. ca <r ober t . hanock@f or ces. gc. ca>
Sent : Wed Aug 24 18: 49: 36 2011
Subj ect : An expl anat i on and cl ar i f i cat i on.
Sent f r ommy wi r el ess handhel d devi ce / Tr ansmi s de mon appar ei l por t abl e
St even Mor r i s
POI
Cf NI S
He has your name spel l ed wr ong, gi ve i t a r ead and t el l me what you t hi nk.
Wednesday, 24, August, 201119:22
HANCOCK MCpl RJ @CFNIS@Edmonton
Fw: Anexplanationandclarificalion.
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I n t he end, I ' m not af t er money. That ' s not my pr i mar y gr "
My dr i vi ng mot i vat i on i n t hi s i s t o get an apol ogy f r om And not some st upi d
f or ml et t er t hat hi s l awyer si gns of f on. I mean a r eal apol ogy.
My f at her ? I don' t know. Bei ng abl e t o f i nal l y t el l hi m r i ght t o hi s f ace t hat he was f ul l
of f ucki ng shi t over t hi s whol e af f ai r woul d be a st ar t . Bei na abl e ~n t el l hi m r i ght t o
hi s f ace t hat hi s act i ons or l Ar k ~ho - ~l at i ng t o wer e mor e
damagi ng t o me t han anyt hi ng di d WOU10 pr ooao~y De t ne i Ci ng on t he
cake.
To have hi m admi t t hat he was a sel f cent r ed bast ar d t hat hi d behi nd hi s uni f or m wouLd be
pr i cel ess.
To have hi m f i nal l y admi t t hat he was mor e t o bl ame f or bei ng mol est ed vi a hi s
absence f r om t he house and t hat i t wasn' t my f aul t woul d be a bonus.
Accor di ng t o t he r epor t s I had an I . Q. of 136 at t he t i me. As t he r epor t s st at e, I had a
ver y advanced i nt er est i n el ect r oni c and comput er s. Thi s was 1981. I was an ext r emel y
br i ght ki d accor di ng t o t he r e) C' Ayt ~ The onl y way I CO, , 1 rl <;PP my f at her on a dai l y basi s
when he was l i vi ng of f base at apar t ment over by was t o head up t o
t he squadr on di r ect l y af t er school . I used t o have a l ot of f un t ner e. ~ven i f my f at her
was busy. Ther e woul d al ways be ot her guys wor ki ng on t he chi nooks and t hey' d al ways f i no
somet hi ng for me t o do. I can wi t h conf i dence say t hat I was pr obabl y t he onl y ki d t hat
had ever hel ped out changi ng a swash pl at e. Sur e, I was onl y r unni ng f or wr enches. But
bei ng abl e t o cl i mb up t he hand hol ds and wal k acr oss t he f usel age and t hen si t on t he
open pyl on cover s and wat ch was amazi ng. Be t aught hOYI t o power up t he consol e of a
chi nook so t hat I coul d t une t he r adi o i nt o t he l ocal r adi o st at i ons was neat .
Goi ng on ' t est ' f l i ght s ar ound base was cool . Bei ng har nessed up and al l owed t o hang over
t he edge of t he l oadi ng r amp i n f l i ght i s somet hi ng I st i l l r emember .
So I can onl y i magi ne what I coul d have been t hi s day had , not occur r ed.
My f at her ?
Not hi ng woul d have changed hi m. But at l east wi t hout t he ef f ect s of .
maybe t hi ngs woul d have been a bi t mor e t ol er abl e i n t he house.
Becuase, t hese event s scr ewed up my l i f e beyond bel i ef .
But , i f t hi ngs j ust f ade i nt o not hi ngness, why can' t I j ust l et ever yt hi ng f ade i nt o
not hi ngness.
The number of t i mes t hat ~nd I wer e havi ng sex? I can saf el y say now itwas
f r eql ' ' ' ' n~. Goi ng thr ouqh I w ith : has been hel pf ul . But t her e was one aspect
t hat t ouched on t hat " as embar r ass~ng and ver y uncomf or t abl e. I t i s possi bl e f or a
vi ct i mot mol est at i on t o ' enj oy' t he sex. And by ' enj oy' I mean f eel ar ousal and pl easur e.
When you consi der t he si mul t aneous f eel i ngs of somet hi ng bei ng pl easur abl e AND wr ong you
end up wi t h ki ds l i ke me who keep our mout hs shut as we' r e af r ai d t hat wer e goi ng t o get
bl amed. Af t er al l , i f I knew i t was wr ong, t hen I shoul d have j ust sai d no, r i ght ? I f I
di dn' t want i t t o happen, I shoul d have j ust sai d ' No' , r i ght ?
Men or boys don' t have sex wi t h ot her Men or boys, r Lqht. T. I Oboys havi ng sex i s so wr onq
t hat t hey must be evi l . So " ' hat i f one of t he boys i s onl y 8 or t he ot her boy i s i n a
posi t i on of t r ust and aut hor i t y over t he 8 year ol d.
So, al l of t he t i mes t hat and I had encount er s i n t he change r ooms of t he s" , i mmi ng
pool , t he sauna at t he pool , 1: newashr ooms at Gaut hr i e, t he washr ooms at t he ar ena, t he
wooos on t he west er n per i met er of t he base, al l of t hese get hi dden due t o embar r assment .
How many encount er s? Who knows. I mysel f woul d be ver y suspect of any number t hat I gave
you.
Why t hen can I r emember t he f i r st t i me put hi s hands down my pant s, t he t i me we wer e
t aki ng a bat h Ovpr i . nhi s house, t he t i me we wer e per f or mi ng or al on each ot her i n my PMQ
when my Dad and came home, or t he ti . mewe wer e havi ng anal sex i n hi s bedr oom? Because
t hose wer e about t he onl y t i mes t hat ' t r aumat i c' event s occur r ed.
Ther ef or e t hey' r e et ched i nt o my memor y.
Al l of t he ot her t i mes, i ncl udi ng t he possi bl e t i mes wi t r : , not hi ng t r aumat i c
occur r ed. No pai n. No br oken bones. Not hi ng. So t hese epi sodes j ust f ade away i nt o
not hi ngness.
f at her out r anked my f at her . Eut as I no" know, i t wasn ' t hi s f at her t hat he " as t al ki ng
about . I t was Capt ~i n Fat her See, at t he t i me, t he f at her havinq a r ank
wouldn It be something that I rrtVULU lICH'C ..... een too aware of. HeIs a priest, he runs a
chur ch, why woul d he have a r ank. So, over t he year s i t became , f at her t hat
out r anked mi ne.
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Because of t hi s and t he succ~- ~ T h~~ T 1eci ded t hat t he t i me had some t o cl ean up some
ghost s f r o t he past . . Namel y
I st i l l can' t honest l y say anyt hi ng agai nst Not t hat i t mat t er s as he' s dead now.
But st i l l .
What I wasn' t pr epar ed f or t hough was al l of t he ot her ' st uf f ' t hat I ' ve si nce l ear nt .
Yes, i t has been pai nf ul . Yes, I di d r ecent l y spend a ni ght l ocked up i n t he psych war d
f or obser vat i on.
But , at l east no" " my mi nd can r est . By t hat 1mean my mi nd i s happy now t hat i t has been
abl e t o f i t al l ~. . . ho" " " 7z1e pi eces t oget her .
I now knov why mysel f and one ot her ki d wer e t r ashi ng a chur ch. To t el l you t he
t r ut h, when Hanock i nt er vi ewed me at t he VPD headquar t er s at t he end of t he i nt er vi ew when
he kept aski ng me i f t her e was anyt hi ng el se I woul d l i ke t o t el l hi m, I kept t hi nki ng i n
my mi nd DOh shj t . h~ knnws t hat I vandal i zed t he chur ch" But as i t t ur ns out he di dn' t .
I nov, knov how was abl e t o avoi d t r oubl e. ~J henhe was caught wi t h me i n hi s
bedr oom t hat day he was abl e t o t ur n ar ound and spi l l t he beans on
My Gr andmot her , who wasn' t exact l y a f anat i cal devot ee of t he chur . . . " , . t he l ess
woul dn' t have been t oo t ol er ant of ' l i es' bei ng sai d agai nst t he chur ch.
AS my gr andmot her was f ul l Cr ee, she her sel f as a chi l d went t hr ough t he r esi dent i al
school syst em. Even i f she wasn' t sexual l y abused, she woul d have had a f ear of t he chur ch
i nst i l l ed i nt o her .
So was i t her i nsi st ence ouer and over agai n t h~t _as l yi ng or was i t t he
. ~r r ~mRnt al wi ne t hat hel ped me . ~- - ~~ ~bout ~ I don' t know. Al l I know i s t hat
di dn' t t ake me t o see pl ay checker s or chess.
I n t he snor t t i me afte+ ~nrl T aot caught i n hi s bedr oom, and . ;. ._ . . ~. f t er we t r ashed
t he chur ch, but bef or e se had t he gas expl o- ' ~- t nd I had one mor e
encount er . Ther e was no sex. I t was ~n chi s encount er wher e ol d me i f I t ol d anyone
about hi m and I t hat he' d ki l l me. I t was al so when he t ol d me t hat I coul dn' t t el l as hi s
Anyways, I pr obabl y woul d ~rlV~ done anyt hi ng I f i t hadn' t been t hat i n Oct ober 2010 I was
i nduced t o l eave my j ob at t o go wor k f or an empl oyer i n Sur r ey who
was ext r emel y i mpr essed wi t h my meCl l " " ~' - " ' ~ a, ) del ect r oni c abi l i t i es. She knew t hat I was
hcm~' s. ex' , . a' : ' and t hat I was ver y f l amboyant . She r ecei ved per mi ssi on of t he d~- r . ~ct orand CEO
0<t he ccmpeny t o hi r e me. She however f or got t o t el l t hem t hat I am a t,<';."r:,.;"t".~.. When
t hey f ound out , I was f i r ed withoutcause. I qual i f i ed f or E. 1. I spent t he next t ew
mont hs goi ng t o t he Supr eme Cour t of BC l i br ar y and var i ous l egal ai d cl i ni cs. I l aunched
a l awsui t and a Human Ri ght s Compl ai nt . Unf or t unat el y, I di dn' t have t he money t o hi r e a
l awyer . None t he l ess, we set t l ed out of cour t .
The set t l ement wasn' t anywher e near what I was cl ai mi ng, but i t was mor e t hen enough t o
pr ove t hat t hey knew t hey wer e wr ong. Put i t t hi s way, t hei r l awyer coul d have t i ed me up
i n l egal pr ocedur es and i nnuendo. But t he f act t hey set t l ed meant t hey knew t hat t hi s was
a case t hey di dn' t want ; t o go bef or e t he bench.
Sor r y f or t he r ambl i ng .
I t t ur ns out t he dr i vi ng mot i vat i on f or t he post i ng t o Downsview was Al ber t a Fami l y and
Chi l dr en Ser vi r ~~ wer e in t he f i nal st eps of compl et i ng a or der of sei zur e t o r emove bot h
mysel f and ~ f r om my f at her ' s car e. And t he dr i vi ng f or ce accor di ng t o t he pape r wor k,
was my f at her ' s unwi l l i ngness t o see t he gr avi t y of t he si t uat i on and par t i ci pat e i n t he
pr ogr am. Ther e ~Jas al so a sense of i mmi nent danger i f I was t o r emai n i n t he house.
Now, f or a gu~ who di dn' t want ki ds, of t en cl ai med t hat my concept i on was a t r ap t hat my
mot her spr ung on hi m and cl ai med t hat my bi r t h r ui ned hi s mi l i t ar y car eer , you' d t hi nk
t hat he' d j ump at any oppor t uni t y t o get r i d of hi s ki ds.
Ther e' s j ust one pr obl em wi t h t hat .
Even t hough my mot her had abandoned us on CFB Summer si de ( She wait . edunt i l my f at her was
at sea, she t ook mp ~nd my br ot her t o t he house of a f r i end of t he f ami l y and she t ook of f
wi t h a guy named f r om t he P. P. C. L. I ) , my f at her knew damn wel l t hat i f she f ound out
t hat her ki ds had been pl aced i nt o f ost er car e and t hat her ki ds had been mol est ed and
t hat t he mol est at i on occur r ed because her ex- husband wasn' t l i vi ng i n t he house, but was
l i vi ng of f base wi t h hi s gi r l f r i end t hat she' d have no pr obl em goi ng bef or e a f ami l y cour t
j udge and get t i ng cust ody and ALI MONY.
I t ' s t he al i mony component t hat had my f at her t he most concer ned.
nn Downsvi ew var i ous of my f at her ' s f r i ends asked hi m why he j ust di dn' t of f l oad me and
on our mot her . I t was al ways t he Al i mony.
I f ne kept us he coul d cont r ol t he cost s.
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st ar t .
I ' ve got 30 year s l ef t t o l i ve. That ' s
f i r st put hi s hands down my pant s.
I knoH t hat not hi ng wi l l ever make t hi ngs f r om t he past . Ther e i s no magi cal t i me machi ne
t hat Ican get on and t r avel back i n time as a r ewar d f or f i gur i ng out t he puzzl e t hat i s
my l i f e.
J ust havi ng and my f at her and possi bl y
compl et el y t o bi ame f or bei ng as I am woul d be a
I f ever yt hi ng goes wel l , t he st at i st i cs say t hat
j ust about t he same number of year s si nce
Maybe t hi ngs can bal ance out , no?
" You we r e a Base Br at , gee t he f un you must have had! You must have been so l ucky! '
So as you can see, I ' ve been t hr ough mor e t hat most peopl e coul d ever i magi ne. And I t hi nk
t hat If ul l y deser ve t he r i ght t o be as upset over t hi s whol e af f ai r as I am.
But , . r ~m t he mi l i t ar y, what Ir eal l y want t o know above al l el se i s t hi s, how t he hel l
di d ~nrl I escape det ect i on dur i ng t he i nvest i gat i on i nt o compl ai nt
agai nst ! ?!
Even as f ar back as t he ' 40s psychol ogi st s wer e bei ng t aught t hat sexual l y abused chi l dr en
or adol escences of t en i n t ur n act out on younger chi l dr en. So her e you had at
15, baby si t t i ng an 8 year ol d and a 6 year ol d and no one t hought t o ask?
Was t he mi l i t ar y t o bl ame f or any of t hi s. That ' s a t ough one.
I ' d l i ke t o know why t he mi l i t ar y appr oved a post i ng when t he mi l i t ar y had i nf or mat i on
st at i ng t hat i t was agai nst t he best i nt er est s of t he ki ds.
I woul d l i ke t o know why my f at her escaped any t ype of sanct i on when i t was r eal i zed t hat
he decei ved t he counsel l or s wi t h t he det ai l s of t he post i ng and when i t was di scover ed
t hat he had gone agai nst agr eement s t o have me pl aced i n t he Chi l dr en' s Hospi t al
psychi at r i c pr ogr am upon our ar r i val at - r . F" BDownsview.
T want t o kno~, " hv when my f at her and had t hei r massi ve f i ght i n t he PMQ at
i n 1985, why t her e was no f ol l ow t hr ough. Ther e was f ur ni t ur e oue on
t he Lawn, most ot et " , n, . " ' Hl df l oor windows wer e smashed out . The pl ace was dest r oyed. My
f at her woul d unl oad and I on our gr andmot her ever y summer unt i l she di ed i n 1986.
So i n 1985 when or t at her pi cked us up at Pear son ai r por t , he was unusual l y qui et . I t
wasn' " nt i l we wer e comi ng of f t he 401 and ont o Keel e St r eet t hat he sai d when we got
home and I woul d have t o wai t i n t he di ni ng r oom because t he MPs had t o come speak
t o us.
Sur e, t hey came t o speak t o us. They advi sed us i f we f el t t hr eat ened t hat we shoul d get
out of t he house i mmedi at el y and not cal l t he ci t y pol i ce but cal l t he MP shack. But ot her
t han t hat , t her e was not hi ng.
I t was shor r l v af t er t hi s when I encount er ed : who was a f r i end of my f at her . I
was gi ddy. asked what was up. I showed hi m t he busi ness car d t hat I was gi ven by t he
MPs. I t ol d hi m t hat i f my f at her ever punched or sl apped me agai n t hat I now had a way co
h~llP him arrested.
t hen t ol d me t hat i t wasn' t my f at her ' s f aul t f or t he way he act ed. chen r el at ed
t o me t he st or y of t he HMCS Koot enay f r om Oct ober 1969. I t act ual l y wasn' t unt ~l many
year s l at er and t he advent of t he i nt er net t hat I was abl e t o get t he f ul l st or y.
My f at her was a st oker i n t he navy at t he t i me. I can' t r emember whi ch shi p he was on ( i t
wasn' t t he Koot enay) or even i f he was at sea. But t her e wer e a gr oup of Canadi an shi ps
comi ng back f r om Engl and. As t he r esul t of a bear i ng t hat had been i nst al l ed backwar ds 9
men died when t he one of t he r educt i on gear boxes expl oded. That ' s t he ni ce t hi ng about me
bei ng a 4t h cl ass power engi neer , I ' m ver y f ami l i ar wi t h st eam gener at i on and st eam power
ut i l i zat i on. So I can f ul l y vi sual i ze t he gear box t aki ng t he power f r om t he t ur bi ne
spi nni ng at 30, 000 r pm and r educi ng i t t o t ur n t he shi ps scr ews. Hi gh speed hel i cal cut
gear , oi l vapour f r om t he shear ef f ect and a r ed hot bear i ng don' t mi x t oo wel l .
Anyways, i s t hi s wher e my f at her got hi s dr i nki ng habi t f r om? Do you have any i dea what
it's l i ke t o see you own f at her pi ssed dr unk, r ol l i ng ar ound naked on t he l i vi ng r oom
f l oor at t wo in t he mor ni ng scr eami ng hi s head of f as i f he' s l i vi ng i n some sor t of
emer gency?
And t hi s wasn' t a once i n a whi l e occur r ence. He used t o do i t so of t en t hat Iof t en j oked
t hat he ser ved i n two navys, t he RCN and Lambs.
I s t he Koot enay i nci dent r esponsi bl e f or hi s f amous hai r t r i gger t emper ?
Not t o excuse my mot her , but i t was hi s dr i nki ng t hat dr ove her t o l eave.
I can cl ear l y r ecal l t hr ee car acci dent s t hat we wer e i n al l because my f at her was dr i vi ng
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At 1015 hr s, 19 Sep 11, MCpl HANCOCK at t empt ed t o cont act Mr PAGE, CF Fi r e
Mar shal Of f i ce, t o i nqui r e about t he st at us of t he sear ch f or t he paper
r epor t f r om a house f i r e at CFB Edmont on i n J un 80. A message wi t h cont act
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At 1005 hrsl 17 Oct 111 Mr BEES cal l ed POl MORRI S and asked f or and updat e
on t he f i l e. POl MORRI S st at ed t hat we wer e st i l l wai t i ng f or t he Fi r e
Repor t s f r om Ot t awa and t hat MCpl HANCOCK woul d be meet i ng wi t h t he
Mor i nvi l l e Cr owns of f i ce t o di cuss t he f i l e.
At 1320 hrsl 19 Sep 111 POl MORRI S t el ephoned Mr BEES af t er an emai l was
r ecei ved r equest i ng a cal l back. POl MORRI S st at ed t o Mr BEES t hat t he
i nvest i gat i on was st i l l under way and we wer e wai t i ng f or a r et ur n f r om t he
Nat i onal Ar chi ves on t he PMQ Fi r e i nf or mat i on. POl MORRI S i nf or med MR BEES
t hat when we r ecei ved t he i nf or mat i on f r om t he ar chi ves we woul d t hen
possi bl y be i n a posi t i on t o ask t he Cr own t o r evi ew t he case. Mr BEES
st at ed t hat t he i nvest i gat i on was r unni ng sl ow and he woul d cont act t he Hon
Pet er Mackay and t he medi a i n BC t o voi ce hi s compl ai nt .
Telephone call with Mr Bees
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1\ fewmonths ago, I decided that if I wasgoing to go after in court" I wasgoing to
need to armmyself \-,ith documents that proved I had suffered as a result of all of this.
I madean FOI to Alberta Family and Child. Services and tbe Children!!; Aid Society of
Toronto. 1'1yFa! to the. Department of Nationnl Defence iG still pending.
"lhal:. an eye opener.
But: still, \-lith the passage of timlt!J, thingG become blurry. I've honestly tried. to
forget, but thisstuff isn1t something that: you can forget.
Thi.s isn't like r was fourteen and someone groped my crotch.
To act.ually find out in black and white that this stuft: was going on when I was seven and
eight and not as I remember it as being when I was nine makes this chat:.muchmore
sini~
Hith only being four or five it really becomes out:right disgusting.
If I remember correctly, we were: posted to CPSNamaoov~X' the summer of '78. I can only go
by mymemory as : npletely estranged frommy family.
To find out that "'a.sn't this older guy that: I remembered but was in fact fourteen
and fifteen when I abusing me wasstartling.
To find out that I taking me over to see Father may not have been the innocent
visits that 1 partially remember is quite "'orrisome.
Playing in the father'JJ "stereo chiJ.irll it looke.d sometlling like this
http://*ww'll.sixdifferentways .com/gallery/sall_Bubblc_Egg_Chair/ egg
Hcpl Cyr questidoued meas to whether or not thi::; actually happe' he said he couldn't
find any reports of vandalism. 1: asked himjust exactly hO\-Iwas going to raake his
complaint to the MPs?aas he going to tell the HPs that a fewof the. Kids he wasmolesting
had come:over to the chapel and vandalized it?
1. hope you do undeJ:'stand that at; the end of the interview with Mcpl Hancock at VPDbead
quarters when he kept asking me if there wac anythiog else I had waneed to diSCU9S. that
my stomach started turning in knots. Whenhe asked again the knots started getting
tighter. I thought, I honestly expected. that he wasgoing to ask if I wanted to ownup to
the vandalism from30 years ago. "'hen he didn't I was relieved.
So as I said before. getting caught in T seems <:0have been che catalyst
that led to the den : Captain Father;
The fewtimes that took me over to the ,Ll.vl.ng':I....... rters attached to the cbapel are no
longer GO ird disconnected memory that nevex made.sense.
The time my::;eland one other Jdd vandalized the living quarters and the cbapel now
makeperfect. sense ae nowr can understand the. context behind this.
''le r-linister of National Defence. The Archdioceses of
~made my blood boil. Howcon that, to paraphrase: my
oave cne balls to sue when he himself inflected 00 much
Finding out that
Edmontonil:DdFather
grandmother, little
damage?
Pretty interesting website.
Thanks for the information about the..
Anyways,yes, this hasbeenonebell UJ. ...... o:o.u.i.ng experience asyoucan imagine.
I guess - "ar- the biggest shock waswhen Hcpl Cyr first informed meof' caecarn
Father J ~ and due to the advent of the internet finding out about
pretty !:fJ,mpJ.e.
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Andthe sad thing, ther(:: nevecwC'uldbe an improvement.
Did myfather knowwhat haddone to his two sons?
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1\ later assessment states II I conducted an emotional evaluation with and it soon
becameclear that he expends a large amountof his available energy an fending off
attachment to other people. Hehaca highly pathological ViC\>1of women.Menby the same
token are a source of fear to him. therefore he cannot relate productively withedehex. He
is an isolated, emotionally disturbed child. Heis depressed. perhaps even despairing. He
expects the worlq to blowup, literally for him, at any minute. I woukdeven question if
this child ever bas a momentfree from extremeanxiety. Heis also developing an interest
in sex, and is poorly informed. Hisfinal image.... .'J.9 of a child being drownedin a toilet,
by his fa.ther, nod thil'.l wouldseemto Gum uphew ,experiences daily life
- 0. fight to survive, threatened by degradation and rejection" This assessment wason Nay
31, 1962:. I was eleven at this time. Still not muchof an improvementfromthe assessment
when r was9.
e files g.e:t moxe amusing as they go on. Onescaees I> I met\orri.t.b
6th, ~gao , to discU!::: -Ehe level of emotional dist.ress l-_. ~strated by his
sons ,nd t -, IUthough - - did not appear totally surprised by my assessment
findings, ue claimed that this WCl:J cue !:irst time anyone had spoken to him regarding
school related problems. Hesuggested that his mother, . _, ( ---lndmother) had
successfully concealed school concerns fromhim"and " I ,,"co::... "J,at f 1musthe
encouraged to actively take responsibility for his family as he maynave Q tendency to
allowothers to solve his problemsfor him, This v,ould only continue to epcnscx
dysfunction within the family. II
.t..nyways.. _.beck to my stor-y,
At the end of thiD assessment, , she x-emarkedlilt is myopinion that is
awareof his manipulative behavaouzu6J.ngchis ecask for helpin the best wa.y he knows
how. This has been successful for himas he has a number of people concerned foX' his
welfare. It is imperiltive that the family receive coum.elling at the soonest possible
ASlittle ccrnmfcmeneto followthrough on this recorr.mendation was received from
:'s father, this case wasreferred to Captain'rot7.ke, Social Services, CPB."
That last part about mygrandmother is quite telling _Grandmacwaeto live withusin
Summersideafter mymother lef- t.....'77. she waslivin, ""ithus :full "~.me on CFSJiamao,BY
father waslivin~ f base at : s apartmentover by .... _ My father told the
ccunsej.fees that moved in ........... uu:. in Augustof 1980. ~ 1S for just about the
entire time thilt wRcre li-'~-- oneFBNamao,myfather wasliving off base.
AGmygranr"- ., erls husband slipped iI .. ' ...._..... 1.. -in the fall cf '78, that would
meanthat: and I were "'u cue care of - :l fromthe fall of '78 until when
he was cau~II'" .... uggering me in the spring cc .L!lIOU. t'f1l.LI..Uneans he was fucking around with
memoretime than I can remember, more on this later.
Living on base meansml 3motherwouldhaveknownsomethingwhen pressed
char: aiDst father I don't honestly knowwhat her relatic:..u:w... ,to' ..... c.Ld have been
with I because no matter whereshe lived. she wae :'none wayor another
vcIuuceeranqor helping out with the church. The fact 1 - "'_.# '-'''''''ldn' t
. -!n a coincidence. ShewasahJays so proud that myfather, .e
1It!-~ ..'\ tar boys whenthey Here younger_Shemaynot have knowwhat !:i Vh trIas
aOlng to and I.
ThiG p:roLc.....~ .Lnewhy she alwa.yscalled a "lying little hastnrdll after be spilt
the beanson My Grandmother wasvery, very religious. Being full Cree, she had been
xadned in the residential schools in Fort ChipY'... an and in those places you were taught to
fear god.
MYfavourite is the SoJeschler 1.Q. test scores. Verbal 133, Performance 131.. Full Scale
136.
''http://en.wikipedia.OX'9/w'iki/i"lechsler_Intel~i9ence_Scale_for_children
T"'" f:i:r!;t_ _as:"..:~!;sm~ntwas done in October of 1980 when r was 9, seems
.. ~a~the: principal and grade four teacher respect..."c::.Ly e.ef"lajor
achwer-every concerned about mybrother and I.
Quote: . hasa tendencyto blatneothers, feeling totally victimized in interactions
"'Iith oth..... _. :.eindicatesa feeling of helplessnessandfrustration evidencedby his
comments01 lly nerves are disintegrating. mymindtells methat I amgongto kill myself,
people are grouchy and mean, I Imbest whenno one is around me, zrmgoing to have a
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NOW.howmany encounters did ~_ ~l"Iri 't have? I knowthaI: every time he came over to
babysit we... ould take either mysolf : to the basement. Hencveedid the tHOof us
_.. '<hesametime. SorealisticOllly. we' Joking at eighteen monthstops fromthe time
~lippccl !- the bath tub un'til he.wascaught bU9gering me. Nygrandmother wouldhove.
~vucto see I just about every weekend. Ican remember someencountrexuover at the
m.,immiogpoo......'here wasonce at Gutb:de during basketbo'll at evening, not during school.
I knowthere vas once over at:. the exene. Basically where ever I wasif he beppened to be
there somehowcex becameinvolved.
I can clearly rememberthe incidents chat r mentionedduring myinterview withMcpl
Hancockas those. were incidents in whichsomet.hingstartling happened.
Thefirst time or t\o<10 that he simply slipped his hand downmy pants and underwear stands
out because that the first time anyonehad ever done anything like that.
'rne time in the basement of our PHQwhenI urinated in his mouthstands out because of hOIlJ
pissed of he was,
Thetime. in the basement of our P~lQwhen",f'f'~r I performed oral sex on himas he waa
performingoral sex onme, myfather and; arrived home.
'Therewasoncewhenwewere taking a bath _... ~ether, someonecamehome. I had to hide in
his closet while he jumpedinto bed and pretended to be sleeping.
Andtben the most famousof themall. whenhe.wasbU9gering mein his bedroom.
-rncseall stilnd out for obvious reasons. But there were more. Thetime he wasbuggering me
in his bedzcomwasthe first time bepeneta-ated, just the previous eucempcsweren't with
his pen.Ls. He'd use hi!.;finger.
Onceprior. to the incident in hi:; bedroomdid he try using his penis, but that really
hurt. I knowwewere in his bedroomfor a wbile. it wesn'tlike wejust got undressed and
started baving sex. I think whatvas different this time around waswith finger massaging
he .. las able to get meto relax enoughand hewanable to get in deeper than the time
before. Howdeep? I cant c say for sure, but he wasinand it didn't hur:: as before, but it
!Otill hurt hone the less. Every thrust stung and I wcu.Ldyelp "0'"r ... Hemusthave been
inside mebecause whenthe unknownperson walked into and said H; he pulled out too
fast and r rememberthat hurting really had. I he ec dress,__ r ren i had to \'/alk
hornethrough the groupof kid!;> nowas---"'~:!d on 1 'aacklawn, the Lawndirectly
adjacent to the street. I wascalled I!;> \,ife, ,S girlfri.end and other things. I
could have died.
au:: yes. there arc moretiml!s .
Wouldthings haveturned.out better for and I had not touched us? Note.
the only reason I am hesitant to mention is I hon...... _ly can't rememberanything
sexual happening, but if he waagiving m<;""lno.thill: wouldexplain why' I can+t; remember.
Yes, I fully believe that mylife wouldbe loot different than the daily disaster that I
live out right now.
So when we moved to Toronto I things went frombad to voese .
r vasselling myself at 13. It: all startedwhenI got picked uponce downtownand waspaid
$50for giving a guy a bIm" job. After that I quickly discovered wherethe menwere that.
liked boys. I had always thought that i wassome deranged pervert. but as I "ve been
told. sexually abused children sometimes do turn to proat Lcctdcn. Now, I wasn' t fulltime
on the street. But I knewwherethe washzooms , parks and :;treets werethat if I needed
money(whichwasoften) I could go and makesomemoney. whenI look back I guess I'mvery
lucky ! didn I t picit upP..IDs or someother disease. '-Ihen I was14 I waah01.vingsex \</iththe
Commissionaireat the Dennison P.rmouries. I vas at cadets onewednesdayand somehowWe:'!
--..I,,~lin talking. Heslipped his handsdownmypants. If I hodn'tbeen abused by
'r would t "ave reacted differently? I was14 and he wasnI tin a position of
....... _. . so T'.'_ -- -~ , ......t,.""-1 ~~ ':his as a. capital crime. Definitely not anywherenear
the sameas . washis nameandhe lived out on ! in an
apartment ch., '- __orother.
1 dropped out of school ccmewhexejust after the start of grade nine.
AIldI movedout of the house shortly there after.
Againl this wasnI e mychoice, I just. had to get out of the house. ThatpLacewasturtling
.:... ,.....q,ninsane asylum.
wasoff to reformschool for stealing cars, break andenters andall sorts of other
_'_.-=ro.J.
Probably not, he Wi,lsnI tthere to have been able to know.
Even if he had known. there is no way he: will ever admit to Y.nowing. Howthe bell can you
admityouknewyour kids werebeingmolestedwhile youwereliving off base:withyour
girlfriend.
That in itself would look bad on so manydifferent levels.
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Do you knowhowhappy it would make me to be abll.! to finally say that 'it. wasn't my
fault '?
I can only pray that you do, because otherwise my life will continue to be a pathetic non-
existence.
I have"noother choice.
ability to live a comfortable life:
sealed tells methat all parties
a good sleep before work. Anyways,I have to end there. I need to go to bed and get
Ican only relive so muchof this crap in one sitting.
30years I've been holding this crap inside.
l"ly 11eLsbeyond pathetic.
Asmuchas I donItrelish t.heidea of going after!
He got his day of justice back in 1.980.he then got the
fromhis lawsuit in 2001. The fact that this lawsuit is
involved reached O J . SUbstantial settlement.
Heanwhd.Le , I'va lost my family and my fucking sanity.
Wben. ,I and the ather kid vandalized the church, I remember going over there, we met
............... _-J the canex . I remember going into the living quarters first. l-1estarted pulling
out of the bookcaseand throwing themaround th.~living room / dining roomarea,
_____ was smashing plates and such, the other kid wasransacking ".. cupbcards. Nethen
movedioto the chapel itself. Wetore upa bunchof the bibles, andthe other kid
went upand started tossing around stuff fromthe altar. t:heyknO (.;.I\<:::Uover the
font/cistern at the front. ~leran off due south fromthe cburchtc wherethe green
interbase busused to ecoo.
I rememberbeing scared shitleas as I thoughfor sure the J .1Ps -.- J oing to come.We
waited for whatseemedlike an eteroity. I'mpretty sure that and I werethe only
two out of the three that crossed backover 97thstreet to O Ul:' ~....... <;; of the bane. Wasthe
other kid and officer I9kid? I can't say for sure. "Butas I mentioned previously r this is
the only time r remembergoin9TO the church. mycomplete.time INthe church and LE:AVING
the church. So youfill in the gclpS.
- -lid prevdcus j.y, I amsomewhat. greatly concerne.debov" . - ...... -rpened to my over in
living qu;)rters. There's absolutely no reason for to haveescorted me
cve.cvoexe. Andthere's absolutely no reason for meto havenee......the living quarters.
Not in the liviDg quarters of a priest who wasmole!>ting the very boy whowas escorting me
over. Thefact Ican remembergoing over there, but I can't remember anything after
playing in the aforementioned stereo chair and having weeeee andjuice scares the hell out.
of me. I have a pretty good undecatianr'" ;If whatpedophiles are cnpabLe of" I also know
that this wasn't a one off thing for' as whenhe went;on to mo1eGtmorekids after.
Hewascharged again in 1989. Andit's we.i.Lknownthat a pedopbil- ....... ,..1(5up numerous
victims prior to :being caught. So truly, howmany other kids was didd.ling?
I can J :emember going over. but I canItrememberlea.ving.
Sickening .
And there ver-e two c.tmes AFTER and I were caught. O nce was when he made the t.hrea.t
of killing meif I told anyone. .I.'ve had time to go over in my mind to see if I could
rememberhimusing that threat during any of our sexuaj, encounters. Theonly time ican
rememberhimusing that threat wasin the meetingright after wehad been caught. there
wasno sex. Hedidn't touchmesexually nor did he wantto be touched. But he madethe
threat. And then he also mademention chat. rcouLdn't tell anyone as 'his' rather
outranked myfather. I say Ibis' because I think he "J ouldhavecalled his father dad and
not father. At the time my father was either a cpl or a :o1cpl. and seeing as howwe were
both living on the same side of the base I nO\01 can' t see his fat.her having outranked my
father by all t)'-I- rrruchto have made a difference. Hashe.inferring t.hat I couldn It tell
anyoneas Fathel outranked myfather.
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Actually, from what I'mreading no one onCFB Downsview was offering any assistance with locating
our family.
Is that what this was?
Was this a situation in which meand my brother were suooosed to get --._ , on our
own. Was themilitary okay with one complaint by .gainst ' ut the muira-v wasn't
~oingto tl")Ierate more Ulan one complaint on the glVUHUO> UUl~having a pair of pedophiles and
C:J one base molesting various children with impunity would be too much bad press.
J ust imagine how bad it would look, themilitary police completely bungle an investigation in thespring
of J 980 that sets two young children down thepath to self destruction. Next wehave the military mind
set that keeps telling these two kids to keep their mouths shut. Then on top of that we have the military
aiding intheneglect of these two children byfacilitating atransfer that was against the wishes of the
Alberta Child and Family services. Next, we have themilitary making it almost impossible for the
Children'S Aid Society of Toronto 10 contact tile family to get the children assitance,
I wonder just how familiar thepadre at CFB Downsview was with Captain Father maybe
this was why he wouldn't tell Children's Aid anything to help them locate the faron]. 'V'J "vv, v:J t one
thought on it's own is quite disturbing.
This is definitely astory that would have legs in the media.
First, there's the complete lack of victimsupport afforded to me by tilemilitary. This one misstep on it's
ownspeaks volumes. Having J udy Bischler contact me periodically may meet some basic legal
requirement, however if she can't discuss thecase with me and sbe can't offer any kind services then it's
really not purposeful is it?
But still, I can't shake this feeling that this is going to turn into Bobbie Bees versus The Department of
National Defense.
I won't say who I've spoken to, but let'sjust say tbat I've had some very eye opening information given
to me. Talk about proverbially slipping through the cracks. I don't think anyone has slipped through as
many cracks or been swept under as many rugs as either my brother or myself.
I was wondering ifyou would be so kind as to update me on this case.
And please, be honest.
[fyou ask anyone who knows me.I don't like being kept inthe dark interionally or otherwise.
J ust over a month ago you told methe case bad been passed onto the Morinville crown prosecutor. As
oftoday i'veyet to hear anything.
If anything was going to happen, I would have expected to have been contated by now inorder to make
arrangement for absences from work and such.
Good day Mr. Morris,
Subject: Bobbie Bees vs.
From: BobbieBees
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If I don't hear fromyouonMonday, onTuesday I will makeacomplaint (0theofficeof theHonourable
Peter MacKay after which r will contcr themedia.
So, I will beawaitingyour phonecall 011Monda)
ad served to me on a silver platter . .y sadly be untouchable, but I want F
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Now, hewdo I see this ending?
{"ell; as t said, I've read the report frommy time in the Alberta Fatnily and Children Is
Services Child Intervent:ion Program.
11 these yeazs I've been trying to convince myself thLlt 1 wasn't. living up to my fauhez-t s
expecua cdcns and hence the distance between us.
I must; admit that mygender confusion probably contributed to this distance and coolness.
But as I've since read. the guy just didn't seemto have cared at all.
Having been molested, I lost all value in his eyes.
This might also explain why no matter howgood. I was, howI excelled at. cadets and other
interests and stayed out of the bad books of the law and conversely howmuchtrouble my
brother got into with the Law, I was always treated as the inferior of the two.
It all makes perfect senae .
I wish it didn' c, because nowr also realize that I tru.ly amall on my own.
See, I've always h. ~ing that my father bas always resented me as I 'allowed'
to be molested by
was~ tak.ing over to see ? Whoknolr/:;;... I guess that question is moot
For __ _ 1 to have pressed chargee against back in 1980 wou.Ldhave been such a
precedent setting move.
But, he had no choice.
He'djust been caught having sex \-Jit' -.~.. "~ar old.
20 wxacevec- needed to be cone. t.he S cid it.
It painted their son 01.9the innocent ............. ~~_.J ange1.
And I gues.::; from the way I'm reading the documents right now, both my brother and I
started self destructing in school.
But that didn Itmatter as at least we wezen'thomos.
Ilm nowfully convinced my fOlthcr must have had basic knowledge of what was going on.
But he wasnIcgoing to acknowledge to mycounselors at the time, ~Jhatmyproblems were.
It would be one thing to have a homo for a sen, it would be something quite completely
different to have to acknowledge it.
That Is why my father showed absolucely no interest in parcicipating wir:hany of the
counseling sessions. He knewwhat had happened, and he sure as hell waGn't going to admit
to it.
The emotional and behavioral issues of .nd , .... hy theY're simply reacting to
their moth~r leaving.
That's all. Nothing more.
I spoke to another former base br-at. she: ,,:o~ksat St:. Paul's in a managemene position.
She confirmed, the topic of sex abuse of boys on a military base is a non-scarter. It
dosen't happen. Period.
It.'s not tnlked about, it's not acl::nowledge. Never has been and itnever will be.
Andshe can even see that it wouldhavebroughta sense of shameto myfather.
Especially as I ama male.
Hhy?
Only fags and homos have male on male sex. 1\ndas we all know, there are no fags and hornos
in the military. sure, they're tOlerated because they have to be.
And no enlisted man is going to have a homo for a son, If you catch mydrift.
An i,Homthat comes into play here would be lilt takes two to tango II
t'lell. I wish I could say that t.hings are going well, butebey-c-e not.
I~hatIthought Iknew, Ireally didn't.
ThemoreI find out about the world I thought 1gre.vl upin. tibemoreI realize the less I
knew.
Hi Judy.
Bobbie Bees, ~ ...
Wednesday, 7, September, 2011 02:39
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Morris P01SM@CFNIS@Edmonton
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>If youhave any questions or concerna, please contact me.
>
>TakeCare.
Investigators ere still workingon the file.
> Howis everyt.hing withYOU?
On 6 September 2011 12:29, <JUDY.BISCHLER@forcesgc.ca>""rote:
> Hello Bobbie,
In somer-eapect;alIm$0happythat I finally madethe moveand mademycomplaint.
:Butno... ' I'malso realiz.ing that lIve beennothing but a stupid ass for letting this go for
so long.
Andrima150 realizing that I need to berealistic v,ith myself and admit that nothing
positive will comeof this.
Now. how helpfu~has the D.N.D.beenco far?
1\11I can say is that limvery damnluckto be workingat sandthat
wasawareof myplight andwasable to get meinto the cencee ro~~ractitioner Keuc. .
See, apersonis not eligible for victimassistance for allegations.
Togo-tcompensation, oneneedsto be e, victimof proved crime.
Allegations, no matter howserious, donlt warrant any type of assistance.
31years ago, for someoddandbizarre reason, the military never thought to checkon the
\I1el.<:_- -. . military dependentstbat werebeing bLlbysatby a teen whowasbeing abuaed
by . Haybethe military dfdn't realize the risk this pcesenced, or maybethe
mil:.. ... ~L")' enoughthat if they didn't bother the kids withsuchtrivial thingc like making
the kids tell the nice I'IPwherethat badmantouched them, that they'd eventually forget
about whathappenedand moveon.
Idon't know.
r really don't know.
AndI wish I did.
h-.I;::;:di sappear-into the ether.
will alwaysbe the poor, poor victimof ;
just 10..3.og to makea quick buck.
:lid anything withusother than being a
e and nothing else.
ling to chazgesomeonewho\"'&$ 14at the time withprocuring two
so, wheredoes chis leave I andl.?
I've heard apparently that t.nc:.CCl.~= has been passed on to the crown prosecutor to see if
charges are warranted.
Let's behonest. andp:
I was 8at the time, : apparently was14maybelS tops.
Really, that's nothing. we~J., to meit'!:: a lot.
I wastiedmy wholeteenage years trying to convincemyself that I wasoIt gay.
You1re going to try and makea court case out of whatcould be argued to be a. case of two
kidsplaying Doctor'.
~totlikely.
31. years 1.-
minorsto ,
That won't u.ry, You'Qhave to prove that
kindly old priest whogaveuscrackecs ar....
Deadmendon't talk, do they.
31years later you're going to try and poor victimof a deranged priest?
That's not looking too good, .. :hy riGk committingsuicide?
Yeah, the press on that woukdlookreall.y spec.... acu'Lax,
I can see the headlines I' Victimof sexual assault co~aits suicide after beingharassed by
military investiga.tors"
Proceedwith a, case that ma.yhave tile potential to exposethe D.N.D.
et;. aL. to a lawsuit?
Bemucheasier to just let tl
r"- - - matter Hhathappens, t
I ndII11llethe opportunist
escaped being held responGible:. at the moment. SeemsI
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> Judy Bischlez-
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> CSN 528-5025
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Bobbie Garnet Bees
well, evenif it turns out that there isn't enoughevidence to goafter at Leasc
able to discover the truth about that period in t':_- "'.fter a.ri, ... i.
doesgo to court, he'll just blameeverything on He's already got a
sympathycard to play, Finally I've beenable to realize at............. ereeeoe finnlly tha.t the
abuse andneglect werenItimaginary.
After all of these years youhaveno idea howit finally fe.elsto be free of this man.All
mylife I thougbt I wasthe tuck-Up. But apparently this waan't so.
AsI said before, I did contact Alberta Family and Child Services(A.F.C.S.). I madea
Freedomof Information request. I should hove dome this a long t:ime ago. I guess I Wilsn't
ready until nov, Too bad that I've wasued the last 20 years of mylife. WhenI lived in
Edmontonin 1990: x could havegotten myhandson this information andsavedmyself a lot
of grief.
I knowmyfather knewthat A.F.C.Swasgetting ready to take meand mybrother out: of the
house.
'-ort talks about one Lnt.e'rvdevsession where ndhis wife
~ill not talk to eachother but: will only communicateco eech other throughthe
CD.l..L.ULCn.
This interview ( e same timethat my father had eat and I down in the
living --_.. -:t j onGx,.., ;hand said that heand re breaking upand
that if lefl ue. WCl~ -:;,......... ::1 to put and 1: into foster care. There is no wayheld
vcduntai....... r ::iurrcnderus to foster ca.."" waytoOmuchto risk over our mother taking us
out of foster care.
Asthe report aadd, he eIways j blameto others, andby telling. tnd I this, he
wasin a way making sure that and I knevthAt 'lie vexe xeapcnsLbLeioU" .mding upin
foster eaee.
okay. I promise that I wonItbore youwithanymoredetails.
I've filed a FOr request withbothTheHospital for SickChildren andTheC.hildren'sAid
Society of Toronto.
I knowthe answer that I'll get frombothagencies will be that myfather didnItget us
involvedwith either organization.
Bobbie GarnetBees I
Saturday, 27.August, LUIIu: ~(
roberthanock@forces.gc.ca; Morris P01 SM@CFNIS@Edmonton
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It turns out the driving motivat.ion for the posting to DownsviewwasAlberta Familyand
Children se-v!"'.:I>~ werein t.he final steps of completing a order of seizure to xemoveboCh
myself and frommyfather's care. Andthe driving force according eo the paperwork,
wasmyfo.tl..... _ _ .nwillingcess to see the gravity of the situation andparticipate in the
program. There wasalso a sense of imminent.danger if I waoto remainin the. house.
Now,for a guy whodidn't want:kids, often claimed that myconception wasa trap that my
mother sprung onhimand cLadmedthat my birth ruine.d his military career, you'd think
that he"djumpat any opportunity to get rid of his kids.
There's just oneproblemwith that.
Eventhoughmymother had abandoneduu on CFBSUmmers ide ( Shewait.eduntil myfather was
at sea, she tookmeand mybrother t:o the houseof a friend of the family and she tookoff
witha guy named tramthe P.P.C.L.I). myfather knewdamnwell that if she found out
Well, this as I knownowis a completecrock of shi t (pardonmyFrench).
According to the filer,; that I nowhave thanks to an FOI, myfather wasbeing completely
uncooperative with the program. Didn't want:to chowupto interviews, wasn't being
t.ruthful with information, wasbeing manipulative, wasdisobeying direct orders fromhis
commandingofficer to attend the therapy sessions, wasdeflecting blamefor family
difficulties on to others. He had the balls to blamebis ownmother for concealing
;~dc~!~~edP~~~t~.~rformanc~:~sSl~~~~!~in9himand hi!) wife :or no reason. Heclaimed
in a call t.orcapl eexethat the program\.,asa "Pi:"___ litUeven thoughhe would
tell the counsellors the programwasgreat.
It ..... ould appear-sthat even thoughCaptain Terry Totzke Iintervened'
and cancelled myfacher Is various postings somehowmyfather wasable to sneakthe onefor
CFBDownsview.This cameas a complete shock to the counsellors. There Leageneral sense
in the documentsthat myfather knewahead of time of his posting as hekept telling the
counsellors that he would be hilPPY to attend meetings after February zaeh, 1981. Hemoved
in midjlarchof 1983.
Bvthp tirne Iv->e I aLxeady endure quite a bit. inmy life. But having to endure
wacmorethan any kid should ever have to endure.
'k! of that. being taken out of Najar General GreiebachSchool for
behavioural problems.
HhenI wasin the Ichild intervention program' myfacher used to speze no expense in
makingmeunderstand that it wasmyfault. That if I simply stopped 'playing' with other
boys, I could go backto regular school. Of course this is not. the reason I wasin the
intervention program. As I'mfinding out, the counsellors had acmevery serious concerns
about; me, mybrother and the suitability of living in the hornewith myfather andhis
common lawwife.
~Jhenwereceived our posting to CF.Bpownsvdewin1983, m.y father kept telling metb<lt it
wasmyfault, that if I wasn't queer they (the
cousellors) wouldn't be "'Ianting to try to give medrugs to fix myproblems.
Heclaimed the reason wemovedwasthat he was saving mefrom Ithem'
testiog thei.r. drugs onme.
as psychological eensuj.eene . That was me at. 9. Fromand Lnt.ervdew with.
r'irst. somequotes:
"Hy nervesaredisintegrating"
"Mymind tells me that: I'mgoing eo kill myself"
"r'mgoing to havea nervousbreakdownif graro.nydoesn't leave the house soon"
I just thOllghtl'el dropa quick lett:er. Hopefully I can explain myreasons behind doing
this.
Goodafternoon gentlemen,
Bobbie Bees I
Wednesday. 24, August, ~...'t , ........ v
Morris POi SM@CFNIS@Edmonton; robert.hanock@rorces.gc.ca
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Thenumber of tim~Gthat and I WP.,TP. havi.noSex?I Cansafely say nowitwas
frequr-a. ~oing throught ~~'with'" :lSbeen helpful. But there Has oneaspect
that ( ~oucbed on that wasembazz. _ ery uncomfortable. It is possible for a
victil" ........ molc!:Otationto 'enjoyr the eex. Andby 'enjoy' I meanfeel arousal and pleasure.
'-IhenyouconsLder the !>irnuJ.taneou5 feelings of Gotnethingbeing pleilsurable .AND wrongyou
endupwithkids like mewhokeepour mouthsshut ea we're afraid that wcregoing to gct
blamed. After all. if I knewit waswrong, then I shOUldhave jU:lt said no, right? If I
didn't waneit to happen, I should havejust said 1110', right?
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Becauseof this and the .sccce I decided that ebe time had some 1:0clean up some
ghosts fro t.hepast, Namely!
I still can't honestly say anyt:n,l.u:I Q~ainst Not chat it oaccerc as hesa dead now.
Butstill.
HhatI wasn't prepared for though was all of theother 'stuff' that I've since learnt.
Yes, ithas been painful. Yes, I did recently spend a night locked up in the psychward
for observation.
sut, at least now, my mind can rest. By that I. meADmy mindis happy nowthat it has been
able to fit al:' . zle pieces together.
I novknow\vhy myself andoneother kid weretrashing a Church. Tocell you the
truth, when Hancox ancexvaewed me at the VPDheildquarters at the endof the interview when
he;kept ask.ingme if there was anything else I ";Quldlike to tell him, I kept thinking in
mymind"ohshit '. __.....that I vandalized the church" sut us it turns out he didn't,
I nowknowhow: 'asable to avoid trouble. ~Ihenhe wascaw..... ~.thmein his
bedroomthat day Ill;; ""~D ....,,!e to turn around and sl'ill the beanson ; .
MyGrandmother, whowasnI texactrLya fnoatical devotee of the chuccn, ...... ie the less
wouldnr to bavebeen too tolerant of 'lica I being sa.id against the church.
Asmygrandmother wasfull ezee, she h.erself asa. child wentthroughthe reside.ntial
school system. Even if she waune t;sexually abused, she would have had a fear of the church
in~tilled into her.
Sowasit: her inSistence over and over again r" waslying or wasit the
.- --._-_ ...., -une that helped mefnTOl"':t about l 1. con'cknow : All I knowis that
m't;eajee me t to play cue...... '9rc or chess.
01.1 ... " ............. __ time after _It caught in his bedroom.anr ->l1qt: after \>,etrashed
erie chuirch, but before the ~ , househad the gao exp'tcs' -- t" and I hadone more
encounter. There wasno sex. in this enccuntetr whereJ j meif I told anyone
abouthimand I that he'd kill me. It: wasalso whenhe told me;-:...... t I couldn't tell as his
father outranked myfather. Bur ~II: I nowknow, it \'Iasn't his rather that he wastalking
aecuc. ItwasCaptain Father A ' See. at the time, the father baving a rank
wouldn't be something that I w__ . been ecc awareof. He's ""nr{"'f;:t'., he runs a
church, whywouldhe havea rank. So, over the years it became l'S father tha.t
outranked manc.
A.nyNays, I probablywouldh;-"- -".. ...-.... ~-r:, If ithadn't beenthat in October2010I was
induced to leave. myjob at l to go weekfor an employer in surrey who
'''as extremely impressed witHmy mCCCI(lU.LU~.Q.uJ eaeccreru c abilities. Sheknew that I was
homosexualand that I was very flamboyant. She received permission of the director and CEO
of the companyto hire me. Shehcweve.rforgot to tell themthat I ama homosexual.When
they found out, I vae fired without cause. Xqualified for 8.X. I spent; the next few
monthsgoing to the Supremecourt 0'BClibrary andvarious legal aid clinics. r launched
A LawsuLeandil HumllnRights Complaint. Unfortunately , I didn I t have the moneyto hire a
Lawyez Nonethe less, wesettled out of court.
The settlement wasn't anywhere near whatI wasclaiming. but itwas more then enoughto
prove that they knewthey ... :ere wrong. PUt ittbis way. their lawyer could have tied meup
in legal procedures and innuendo. But tbe fact they seetled meantthey knewthat this was
a case they didn't want to go before the bench.
Sorry for the rambling .
t.hat.her kidshadbeenplaced into foster care andthat her kidshadbeenmolest.edand
that the molestation occurredbecauseher ex-trcscane wasn'tliving in the house. but was
living oft basewithhis girlfriend that she'd havenoproblemgoingbefore a family court:
judge and getting custody and ALIMONY.
It's the alimony component that: had my father the most concerned.
~... I)r"Iw'1.sviewveeteue of myfather I s frie.nds asked hi.mwhy he just didn't off load meand
on our mother. It was always the Alimony .
......._ keptushecouldcontrol the costs.
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Ha.sthe military to blame for any of this. That's a tough one.
I'd like to knowwhy the military approved a poscing when th.e military had information
stating that it was against the best Lntexests of the kids.
!would like to knowwhy my father escaped any cype of sanction when it: waSrealized that
he deceived che counsellors ""ith the details of the posting and when it wasdiscovered
that he had gone against agreements to have meplaced. in the Children' s Hospital
psychiatric programupon our arrivnl at -""';'8ncwnsvLew.
'! _\._-. ' when my father and had their massive fight in the pr!fQat :
in 3.985#why there wes no follow through. There was furniture _. an
._. .... , ........ __ .11. the .Trnund floor windows~"'eresmashed out. 'rhe place \\laGdestroyed. t1y
father wouLdunload ... and I on our grandmother every summer until she died in 1966.
So in 1985when or picked us up at Pearson airport, he Has unusually quiet. It
wasn't "-<";1 wewet.....:omingoff the 401andonto KeeleStreet that he said when wegot
home . and I would have to wait in the dining roombecause the 11Ps had to comespeak
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In the end, r'mnot after money. That's not my prima.ry gr -
My driving motivation in this it:> to get an apology from . Andnot some stupid
formletter that his lawyer signs oft on. I mean a real OlpOoLOgy.
fiy father? I don't know.Being able to finally tell himright to his face that he was full
of fucking shit over this whole Clffair "IQuld be a sta-'" '1)0""0 able .......tell himright to
his face that his actions or J ~'J ltin9 to .e were more
damaging to methan anything t: did WC ...__ r--_ che icing on the
cake.
To have himadmit that he was a self centred baecaed that hid behind his uniform wouldbe
priceless.
To have. himfinally admit tbat he wasmore to blame for : bein9 molested via his
absence frcmthe bouse and that it waent t. my fault '/Iouldbe a bonus.
According to the reports I had an 1.0. of 136at the time. Asthe report.5 state, 1 hOoda
very advanced Inceres c in electronic andcomput er-n. Thiswas 1981. I wae an extremely
bright kid according to the rep The only way I CCI ~" --- _., F~t:her on a daily basis
whenhe was living off base at apartment over b~ wasto head up to
the squadron directly after school. I used to have a joc v.............. _.___ 'en if myfather
wasbusy. There wouldalways be other guysworking on the chinooks and they'd always find
something for meto do. l:can withconfidence Gaythat I wasprobably the only kid that
hadever helped out changing a swashplate. Sure, t wasonly running for wrenches. But
being able to climb up the hand holds and walk across the fuselage and then sit on the
open pylon covers and waticbwasamazing. Betaught hO\-1to pcwexupthe console of a
chinookso that I could tune the radio into the loca.l radio stations wasneat.
Goingon ,'test' fligbts around base wascool. Being harnessed upand allowed to hangover
the edge of the loading ramp in flight is something I 5ti11 ---_ha .....
So 1 can only imagine what I could have been this day had: not occurred.
Ny father?
Nothing would have changed him. But at least \lithout the effect::; of St
maybe things would have been a bit. more tolerilble in the house.
aecuaae, these events screwed upmyl.ife beyondbelief.
But, if things just fade into nothingness, why can' tI just let everything fade into
nothingness.
teenor boysdon't have sexwithother Nenor boys, right. T\'10boyshaving sexis so h'roog
that they must be. evil. So what if one of the boys is only 8or the other boy is in a
position of trust: andauthority over the 8year old.
So, all of the times that ~and I hadencounters in the change roomsof the so,.limming
pool, the sauna at th.e poe te washrooms at Gauthrle, the washrooms at the arena, the
weedsonthe ,..estern perimeter of the base, all of these get hiddendueto embarrassment.
Howmacyencounters? Nhokncwa. I myself wouldhe very suspect of any number that r gave
you.
Nhythen can r remember the first time J t: his handsdownmypants, the time wewere
taking a bath OVf '.n his house, the time we were performing oral on each other in my pz.:O
whenmyDadand: cameborne,or the time wever-ehaving anal sexin his bedroom?Because
thosc wereabout cne only times that Itraumatic' events occurred.
Therefore they're etched into mymemory.
All of the other times, including the possible times wit)1 s , nothing traumatic
occurred. Nopain. 1- 10 broken bones. Nothing. So these epf sccee just fade away into
nothingness.
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BobbieGarnetBees
I knowtha.tnothing will ever mnkethings fromthe p;:t!;.t.Thereis nomagical timemachine
that I canget onand travel back.in timeasa eewardtor figuring out the puzzle that is
my life.
Just having. .:ndmyfather andpossibly the military admitthat I'mnot
completelyto blamefor being asI amwouldbe a start.
If everything goeswell, the stati~tics s..... "'''' ....rIvegOt30years left to live. That's
just. aboutthe samenumberof yearssince firGt put his handsdownmypants.
Maybethingscanbalance out, no?
,':touwerea aase Brat. gee the fun youmust:havehadl Youmusthavebeenso lucky,!t
Soas youcansee, I'Vebeen throughmorethat mcst;people couldever imagine.AndI think
that I fully eeeerve the right to be asupset over this wholeaffair asI am.
But, hemilitary. ~... hat I really wantto knowaboveall eLs~~- "h~.::, howthe hell
did f : escape detection during the investigation into scomplaint
against I ?!
Evenasfar backas the >10spsychologists wexebeing taught that sexually ... ""........ '",..hildren
or adolescencesofter. in turnact out onyoungercbildren. Sohere youbad at
15, babysitting an 8year old anda. 6 year old andnoonethought:to ask.?
to us.
Sure. they came to speak to us. They advised us if we felt th-reatened that we. should get
out of the house immediat.ely and not call the city police but call the MPshack. But other
than that, there wasnothing.
It was shor ,ter this when I encountered B who wasa friend of myfather. I
was giddy. .aked what. was up. I showed himthe business card that I was given by the
!-IPs. I told himt.hat if my father ever punched or slapped me again that I nowhad a way to
dmarrested,
hen told methat. it. wasn't myfather's fault for the wayhe acted. I then relatetl.
to me the story of the HHCSKootenay fromOctober 1969. It actually wasn It until many
yearslater andthe adventof the.internet tbat I wasable to get the full story.
Myfather vasa stoker in the navy at. the time. I canIt remember whichship he wason (it
\.,.asn'tthe tCootenay)or even if he wasat sea. Butthere werea groupof canadian ships
comingbackfromEngland.Asthe result of a bearing tha.thadbeeninstalled backwards9
mendied whenthe oneof the reduction gear boxesexploded. ThatIsthe nice thing aboutme
beinga echenesspowerengineer, I'mvery familiar withsteamgeneration andsteampo\.,.er
utilization. SoI can fully visualize the gearboxtaking the powerfromthe turbine
spinningat 30,000rpmandreducing itto turn tbe ships screws. Highspeedhelical cut
gear, oil vapour fromthe shear etfect anda red hot bearing don't mixtoo well.
Anyways,is this wheremyfather gothis drinJcinghabit from?Doyouhaveanyidea.foolhat
it's like: to see youownfather pissed drunk, rolling aroundnakedon the livir.g rcorn
floor at ewein the: morningscreaminghis headoff asif he's living in somesort of
emergency?
Andthis wasn't a oncein a while occurrence. Heused to do itso often that I often jok.ed
that he served in twonavys , the RCNand Lambs.
Is the Kootenayincident responsible for his famoushair trigger temper?
Notto excusemymotherI but: it washis drinking thot: droveher to Lecve.
I canclearly recall three car accidents that wewerein all becausemy fa.ther fooJilS driving
drunk.
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>Subject: Status of mycase.
>
>Goodday Mr. Morris,
>I'mjust wondering if you could updatemeas tohow the investigation of
>my complaint is coming along?
>
>I must admit, Ihis has been aneyeopening experience.
>When I sat in the interview room across fromMcpl Hancock back onMarch
>31st! hodno ideajust how much ofa curve ball that I'd have thrown at
>my headby Mcpl eye. I still can't for thelifeof me understand why
>Mcpl Cyr did what hedid. Maybe hehadareason. I just hope that his
> intentions were puce.
>My intent is still tohave prosecuted. But taking intoaccount
>that hewould have only Leel! oecween13to 15(depending who I talk to)
>I don't think that he'd receive much ofa punishment. It's not likehe
>was a50year old chaplain. Infact I'm pretty sure there arealot of
>peoplethat would consider meto beacomplete asshcle for doing what
On2011-07-26 6:27 AM, <STEVEN.MORRIS3@forces.gc.ca> wrote:
>Mr Bees, youcancall me Steve if! cancall youBobbie. Your case is still being investigated as we
speak. Would you like me tocall you todiscuss thestatus. Let me assureyou that investigators will
comeandgo out of this office andthat will innoway affect the investigation. Both WO Hart and MCpl
Cyrweredue for aposting out of Edmonton this year. I have replaced WOHart andhave takenover his
duties.
>
>
>
>Steven Morris
>POI
>CFNIS
>
>Sent from my wireless handheld deviceI Transmis deman appareil portable
>
>---- Original Messag
>From: Bobbie Bees < _ :!
>To: Morris POI SM@CFNIS@Edmonton;s
>Sent: TueJ ul26 01:11:35 2011
Hi Steve,
It's beenso longsince I'vehadany real interaction with themilitary.
That and thefact that this casemeans somuch to mestarts meworrying when Ifind out that peopleare
beingtransfered. This is a case that as is has avery low chance of succeeding.
I havehad theoccasional call fromJ udy, but she,s not allowed todiscuss thecasewith me.
From: BobbieBees
Sent: Tuesday,26, J Uly,201110:57
To: MorrisP01 SM@CFNIS@Edmontcn
Subject: Re: Status of my case.
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>--
>Bobbie Gamel Bees
>
>ph.
>
>
>I'mdoing.
>
>So, why do1want todo this?
>For thepast 31or soyears I'vebeenfightingsomepretty fierce
>internal demons.
- rr.,,~" ~v mother walk out onusin'77and thengetting diddled by
during '79was morethanenough toset afew screws loose.
>
>Over theyears, Inever was abletofigureout how 1 got away
>with what hedid. But thanks to..'--I'>,Iwas abletongure it out.
>Farllv Tlrnow that this also is : IIGet out Of jail" free r.~r(L
>. <lotcaught with me, but tosavehis ass, heratted out
>And, thenin2001 h_ "ad theballs tosuetheD.N.D., thearchdiocese of
>Edmonton andI birnself What agoof. Claims that hebeganto realize
>iust how ncaativety actions affectedhimwhenhet
x, Poor baby.
>f'V(; gUL ULU;;...... IV.... ~lU::Ul}JtS over him (not including last Monday when I
>went off thedeep end after having foundout that everyone hadbeen
>transferred offmy file). 1993, 1996, 1998,2005.
>
>It's agood thingthat. diedjust alittlewhileago. Not that I've
>'een abletoremember anything goingonbetween himand myself. But
> .wasn't taking metothechurch 10seethefather just so wecould
>play checkers andchess. And if it's ok.v ~;I"you, I'd rather let those
>memories stay forgotten. However, ! I,I will never forget nor
>will Iforgive. Not only w" C_: littleoastarn screwing me, bewas also
>making meavailable for . As 1said, hesurewasn't takingmeover
>therefor checkers and chess.
>
>My brother, yes was alsogoing after my brother. But if
>wishes to press charges, he'll havetodo onhis own.
>.
>Ihaven't spoken tomy father inyears. But Icanfully imar'n. "1at he
>~n .. lrt hwe toldtheinvestigators that heknew nothing of
~ or what heis alleged tohavedone. That'sjust theway heis.
>1can"[ explain it.
>
>
>Anyways, as I askedfor at theopening of this letter, could youplease
>updatemeonthestatus of thiscase?
>
>Thank you.
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I <l;mposted out of the Edmontonoffice and as eucbI amDOlonger actively case managing
investigations. Aswell. HCplCyr has beenreassigned fromthis office andyour
investigation hasbeen reassigned.
rt,r Bees
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Office: 780-973-4011 ext SODa
Fax: 780-973-164e
C$N: 528-5008
Email: steven.morris30forces.gc.ca
POl S.M. (Steve) l10rris
Operationsvlarrant Officer
CF.NISwestern Region
Wational Defence
Building 304
P.O Box 1.0500
Edmonton,AB.Canada, T5J 4JS
Governmentof Canada
Mynameis Petty Officer 1st Class Steve Morris. !amWOBlair Harts replacement as the
Case Manager for CFNISWestern Regioo. should you have any concerns about; your file please
contact myself directly. f<ly Contact informacion is located below.
Nr Bees,
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From: <STEVEN.HORRIS3@forces .gc. ca>
Date: '!'I.:.e. 19 T1li Z"l"l~.":S~Q:32
To: e.
cc- <VULll: .lS.L~CHLE:R@tOrces. gc. ces
Subject: FH: Reviewof case status.
It s all goodat the moment.Noneed to worry.
BobbieGarnet aeec.
lnursday, ",'I, ,JUlY, U-II I.,)."I
Morris POl SM@CFNIS@Edmonlon
Bischler J@CFNIS@Edmonlon
Re: Review of case status.
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ph.
Bobbie Garnet aeee
Thankyou for your a.ttention to this matter.
A:: we. seemto have issues comrnunicating via t.eIephcne I request. that you reply via emaLL.
Asthe investigation is probably in it spreliminary stagesI don't eceesee nee.dingto
take anymore that one to two hours of your time. If p09~ible I would like to have Mcpl.
Christian Cyr in attendance.
HieBlair Har~, I amrequesting ameecingwith you to go over the progress of the
inve~ti9ation in mycase to date.
Iwill need to take a day or ty,'O off fromwork in order to travel up to Edmonton.
I amtentatively planning for Friday August 12th. This will allow me enough time 1:.0 notify
workand also for me to arrange a flight and hotel roam.
I amcorrect in assuming that the NISoffices are on what was formerly known to meas CFB
Narnac, correct?
Either way Iwill need directions. Por the time being Iamplanning on stayin9 in the city
of Edmonton and will either rent a car or take a cab, whichever is cheaper.
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Subjeet: Revdew of case euacus
Sent frommywireless handheld device I Transmis de mODappnr-edLportable
Office: 780-973-4011 ext 5232
Cellular: 780~232-5937
Fax: 780-973-l6"49
CSN: 528-5232
EtrJclil: blair. hart(!>forces .gc. ca
\{O B.R. (Blair) Hart
OperationsHarrantOfficer
CFUIS{ieste:rn Region
:auilding 304
P,O Box 10.500
Edmonton.AB, Canada, T5J 4J5
Thankyouand someonefromour office will be in touch.
In regards to. the physical location of our office we are north of the city on CFBEdmonton
proper, at what;waspreviously referred eo.as the L<lncaster Parksite.
I will forward your email on to myreplacement who.will be in touch to discuss ebe status
of the inve:stigation. I would recommendthat you not makeplans t.o attend Edmontonat
this timeuntil youare contacted.
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But t hat ' s t he . , ayt hat i t ' s al ways been. I t was al ways my f aul t . The best i ndi cat i on of
t hi s was when I was i n Sea Cadet s. 17t h R. C. S. C. C.
Ont ar i o. At t he Denni son Ar mour i es at Duf f er i n and Wi l son. I was i n f or j ust under t wo
year s. I bel i eve t hat i t was 1986 when I went t o Ki ngst on f or basi c cadet t r ai ni ng.
had been put i nt o r ef or m school i n Uxbr i dge at St . J ohn' s Tr ai ni ng School f or Boys. Tne
t r ai ni ng pr ogr am was 6 weeks l ong. Dur i ng t he 4t h week we wer e supposed t o cal l home and
make ar r angement s f or gr aduat i on cer emony. We wer e supposed t o f i nd out i f our par ent s
wer e at t endi ng so t hat enough f ood and seat i ng woul d be avai l abl e. You need t o under st and,
up t o t hi s poi nt I had been i n cadet s f or j ust over a year and a hal f . I was 15. I had
already won II Best Dressed Cadetl1 twice, II Cadet with Best Attendancell and UBest Over All
Cadet " . I was al r eady a Pet t y Of f i cer 3r d Cl ass whi ch made i t qui t e awkwar d at basi c
t r ai ni na. Anyways, I was t al ki ng t o my f at her . He sai d t hat he can' t at t end. He sai d t he
he and had deci ded t hat maybe j ust needed t o get away f or a whi.Le. He sai d t hat
he and had deci ded t hev wer e 9v~"", t o t ake t o Di sneyl and. He sai d t hat he and
wer e ar i vi ng up t o t at t he end of t " c ~" , ekt o pi ck up and t hey mi ght be
............. ., by the time I was .D~l:J\. .uvdle frombasic training.
I had a f ucki ng heat at t ack when he sai d t hat . And t hat ' s one of t hose t hi ngs t hat aLways
st ood out i n my mi nd. Asl cmy f at her i f he has any pi ct ur es of me i n cadet s. Ask my f at her
i s he has any pi ct ur es f r omwhen I was i n t he honour guar d at Queen Par k i n Tor ont o f or
t he Cer emony of t he Fl ags. Ask hi m i f he has any pi ct ur es of me per i od. He won' t . He
doesn' t . I ' ve al ways been t he bl ack sheep because I " l et " get mol est ed by !
J mol est hi s 6 year What t ype of a man bl ames hi s 8 year ol d son f or al l owi ng
ol d br ot her .
t ook of f . Ny f at her
...y f at her gr abbi ng my
I was wonder i ng how t he case agai nst i s comi ng al ong.
T hou_ " ' ~ci dedf or t he t i me bei ng t o I.OC go t o t he medi a. I j ust don' t want t o spook
. I have however been busy t r yi ng t o r al l y suppor t t hough ot her channel s i n or der
t o see t hat I get t he j ust i ce t hat I f ul l y deser ve af t er al l of t hese year s. I r eal l y wi sh
t hat I coul d go af t er al l of t hose r esponsi bl e, but I do have t o cut my l osp. ~.
I f you honest l y bel i eve my f at her when he says t hat he knows not hi ng about
you've h2~ ~~- wool pulled over your eyes.
I n 1986, had st ol en t he Pont i ac Acadi an. I was asl eep when
and came home f r om shoppi ng. I don' t r emember anyt hi ng pr i or
by t.._ ankl e and dr aggi ng me out of bed.
As my bed had been moved i nt o t he basement of t o make .,ay f or ; ki d) my
head hi t t he concr et e f l oor . Sur e I was a l i t ~. . . e uazed. But I do r emem. oer ni . n., , ~_ki ngme
t hr ee t i mes. I al so ver y cl ear l y r emember hi m yel l i ng" Wher e t he f uck i s t he car ?" i n
bet ween ki cks. I kept t el l i ng hi m t hat I di dn' t l mow. Af t er t he l ast ki ck he sai d n I
don' t know why you can' t l ook af t er your br ot her . You supposed t o l ook af t er your br ot her .
You l et t hat asshol e i n Edmont on t ouch hi mnow you' r e l et t i ng hi mr un ar ound wi t h t hose
ph;~ head f r i ends" . I di d t he st upi d t hi ng and st ood up and asked hi mwhy I had t o r ai se
when he' s not my son. That got me a chi pped t oot h t hat I onl y was abl e t o get f i xed
i n . . . ~94 when I got dent al i nsur ance f or t he f i r st t i me.
I n 2006 I got pi ssed at t he Pr i de Par ade cel ebr at i ons. So I cal l ed up my f at her and l ef t
about 10 or so messages on hi s cel l phone.
He cal l ed back. Some of t he t hi ngs i t ouched on wer e how he woul d al ways t el l me over and
over how by concept i on was a t r ap my mot her spr ung on hi m t o t r ap hi mi n t he mar r i age. How
my bi r t h xui ned hi s mi l i t ar y car eer . But t he one t hi ng t hat made hi mext r emel y ner vous was
t he ment i on nr l. He cl ai med t o know not hi ng about . I t ol d hi m t hat he
had pai d Lew t i mes. He paused f or a f ew mi nut eb.
I coul d hear hi mbr eat hi ng. He f i nal l y sai d t hat he wasn' " " hp n~p who hi r ed
That I had t o r emember t hat i t \ 1ashi s mot her t hat h! ' : ' ed . And t hen
went back up and he woul dn' t say anyt hi ng el se about
Good morning Mr. Morris.
Status updateplease.
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Nov', so f ar as goes. I know was ar ound 20 when my f at her mar r i ed her . Ther e wer e
\":"'0 i nst ances wner e I t hought she was l i t er al l y goi ng t o ki l l me and bot h t i mes wer e at
~ Ave on CFB Gr ei sbach. But t he one t i me t hat st ands out i n my mi nd was t he
t ~me was chocki ng me and sl ammi ng my head i nt o t he gr ound. She was si t t i ng on my chest
so I ~oul dn' t get away, p~d she kept chocki ng me and sl ammi ng my head i nt o t he gr ound
r epeat edl y. The woman who l i ved next door t o us, not i n t he same f our bedr oom dupl ex t hat
vIe l i ved i n. She l i ved i n t he t hr ee bedr oom dupl ex di r ect l y t o t he east of us. I . eshar ed
2
I was i n t hr ee di f f er ent car s when my f at her had dr i nki ng and dr i vi ng acci dent s. One was
i n Nova Scot i a when he was dr i vi ng my mot her ' s ' 69 Thunder bi r d and he ei t her r an a r ed
l i ght or a st op si gn. To t hi s day even t hough I woul d have been f our or f i ve I st i l l
Cl ear l y r emember f l yi ng bet ween t he spl i t bucket seat s and smacki ng my head on t he wi ndow
swi t ches t hat wer e mount ed on t he cent r e consol e. I t ' s odd, but I st i l l r emember get t i ng
t he st i t ches. The next one was i n Summer si de. \ ' I ewer e dr i vi ng back f r om somewher e on t he
hi ghway, so pr obabl y Char l ot t et own.
He was dr unk agai n and dr i f t ed over t he cent r e l i ne. He owned a Chevy Vega. I st i l l
r emember t hi s one as even t hough I onl y smashed my f ace i nt o t he back of hi s seat , I
r emember my nose bl eedi ng and i t woul dn' t st op. I al so r emember t hat t he f r ont of t he car
was heavi l y damaged and t he r ear bumper had been t or n of f t he car . I woul d have been 5 or
6 when t hi s happened. The next t i ~e he was dr i vi ng dr unk woul d have been i n Edmont on, I
t hi nk we wer e l i vi ng on Gr ei sbach and i t i nvol ved t hi s bi g bl ack ' 79 Thunder bi r d t hat he
owned at t he t i me. Not hi ng ser i ous, but he di d l ose cont r ol and pl ant ed t he car i n a snov
dr i f t . So I know he had a dr i nki ng pr obl em. I al so know f r om physi cal exper i ence t hat he
had an anger i ssue. The r epor t s f r om Al ber t a f ami l y and Chi l d ser vi ces say t hat he al so
had i ssues wi t h t aki ng r esponsi bi l i t y and bl ami ng ot her s f or hi s i ssues.
Wer e I and t el l i ng me bul l shi t st or i es back i n 1985 when
t hey sai d i Cat neL"s t emper and dr i nl Cl . ngwer e because he l ost some f r i ends on t he HMCS
Koot enay? l and l ar e f r i ends of my f at her . They used t o wor k on t he Sea Ki ngs
t oget her at Shear wacer .
Thr ee ~! P's had t o at t end and br e" ] <- a domest i c di st ur bance. My f at her i s i nst r uct ed t o
i nf or m t he Mi l i t ar v Pn1i ce upon' s and my ar r i val back on base, Thi s i s so t hey can
come over t o t el l . and I what t o do i f we need hel p i n an emer gency. And no one over
"~r~o ~r pedom of I nf or mat i on of f i ce i n Ot t awa can f i nd anyt hi ng on t hi s.
sust ai ned heavy damage. Al l gr ound f l oor wi ndows had t o be r ep~acea. The f r ont
door and back door bot h had t o be r epl aced. di ni ng r oom t abl e and ent er t ai nment uni t
were heavi l y damaged. But t her e' s no r epor t s,
My f at her has al ways r esent ed my homosexual i t y. When I was i n t he chi l d i nt er vent i on
pr ogr am i n Edmont on, he woul d ah, av. ~h,ll. me t hat I was i n i t because I was ki ssi ng and
t ouchi ng ot her boys. Once, ) sent a per mi ssi on sl i p home as t he cl ass was
goi ng t o t he Ki nsmen Spor t ~eLl~re t or swi mmi ng. My f at her r ef used t o si gn i t . He sai d t hat
i f I was i n a change r oom wi t h ot her boys I mi ght not be abl e t o cont r ol mysel f and he
di dn' t want t o hear about me t ouchi na ot her boys. I woul d have been no mor e t han t en or
el even at t hat t i me. He knew about , I don' t car e what he' s t ol d you or hasn' t
t ol d you. The t r ut h i s he has al ways r uame., . nef or what happened t o c. ~l hen i t t ur ned
out t hat I w~s showi ng homosexual t endenci es, t hat ' s when he knew f o. ~~r e t hat ' I must
have made mol est my br ot her . That ' s one of t he r eason, f or t he l ongest t i me I
t r i ed t o f or get a. nout; Al l t he t i me we l i ved on CFB Gr ei sbach he kept t el l i ng me
t he r eason I was i n ch. , _" ,__ ~" ' l pr ogr am' was because I was goi ng af t er boys i nst ead of
gi r l s.
30 year s l at er I get t he r epor t s t hat l ay t hi s l i e t o wast e. Not onl y t hat , but when we
moved i n Apr i l of 1983, I r emember hi m t el l i ng me t hat we wer e movi ng because t hey " t he
counsel l or s" want ed t o t r y dr ugs on me t o get me t o st op goi ng af t er boys. Tur ns out t hi s
was mor e bul l shi t .
Al ber t a f ami l y and Chi l d Ser vi ces wer e about t o sei ze me and my br ot her .
Somehow my f at her f ound out . He knew. He t . oLdi ) :, my counsel l or i n J anuar y 1983
t hat he was busy at t hat t i me but t hat he' d be aoJ . ' "LU schedul e al l t he appoi nt ment s she
want ed anyt i me af t er Mar ch of 1983.
somehov he knew even i n J anuar y t hat AFCS wer e about t o make t hei r move due t o hi s l ack of
commi t ment and ot her obser vat i ons. So no, t he pr ogr am I was i n as I ' ve si nce f ound out ,
had not hi ng what so ever t o do wi t h my homosexual i t y, per cei ved or ot her wi se. I t had t o do
wi t h i ssues t hat wer e of such a concer n t hat t he Gover nment of Al ber t a t hough i t best t hey
i nt er vene i n,
And I al ways wi l l be.
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So yeah, I guess i t i s t r ue when t hey sai d" Ther e' s no l i f e l i ke i t " . . .
I t ' s j ust t oo bad t hat I di dn' t choose i t .
So anyways, why have r j ust spi l t al l of t hi s on you you may be wonder i ng. Wel l , I had a
ver y f ucked up chi l dhood. Anyone who says ot her wase i s j ust pl ai n i n deni al . Who' s t o
bl ame? Wel l I sur e as hel l know i t ' s not me.
Can I go af t er my f at her ? For what . Ther e' s no " / i t nesses. Can I go af t er ~gai n, f or
what . Ther e' s no wi t nesses. Wel l except f or t he f emal e MP, but who i s she ana woul d she
r emember ? Mor e r.h~n l i kel v not . Besi des member s don' t r at on ot her member s.
So t hat l eavp. s . . Ther e ar e no st at ut e of l i mi t at i ons f or pr osecut i ng t he
cr i mes t hat per pe~r at ed on me. Sur e, he mi ght get of f wi t h not hi ng as he was 14
and 15 when ne was ~ucki ng me and my br ot her . Yeah, he mi ght t ake t he easy way out and
bl ame f or ever yt hi ng. But he' s t he onl y one t hat I can go af t er .
~ol~ino about i n t he house. I used t o have a Samoyen. she used t o bel ong t o my uncl e
My f at her t ook her as a f avour as my uncl e ' had suf f er ed a st r oke and was
unabl e t o car e f or her anymor e. The one ni ce t hi ng ahout havi ng " Lady" t hat was her name,
l i vi ng wi t h us, i s i t gave me anot her f ood sour ce. used t o keep t he f ood l ocked up
behi nd t he basement door . She al ways sai d t hat we ace t oo much and . , ewer e l i t t l e pi gs.
I ' d show up at school and I coul d r un my f i nger s t hr ough my hai r and my hai r woul d come
out . I ' d smel l l i ke an oni on cause woul d onl y l et us t ake one bat h a week. Our cl ot hes
l ooked l i ke somet hi ng out of t he gooawi l l box. I coul d easi l y eat " l ady' s" gai nsbur ger s
__ ~ "~ ~_j-." f ood. The canned f ood "/as j ust t oo gooey and gr oss. Even when we l i ved on
t he f ood was kept l ocked up behi nd t he basement door and st aved t hat
way unt i l my becr r oomwas moved i nt o t he basement t o make way f or ski d, I. I
al ways t hought t hat i t was because i moved i nt o t he basement t hat . H _ l ock was r emoved
f r om t he door . As i t t ur ns out , Chi l dr en Ai d Soci et y was maki ng vi si t s t o t he house
unannounced. Thi s I was compl et el y unawar e of . I j ust got t he chi l dr en' S Ai d soci et y of
Tor ont o r ennr r ~. ~ll t hese vear s and I wasn' t even awar e t hat t hey had been maki ng house
vi si t s t o . But t hey had. I wasn' t even awaz' et hat we wer e i nvol ved
wi t h t hem.
For t hat mat t er I wasn' t even awar e of our i nvol vement wi t h AFCS i n Al ber t a.
t he same dr i veway.
Anyways she com~~ over . She j ust happened t o be an MP. She gr abs by a f i st f ul l of
haj r and pul l s of f of me. she' s hol di ng by t he f i st f ul l of hai r and she' s yel l i ng
at she' s aski ng i f she want s t o t r y and f i ght her .
Thi s was t he f i r st ( and onl y) t i me t hat anyone ever st uck up f or me. And t hat ' s why I ' l l
al ways r emember her . I f or get her name. But t he i mage of her st andi ng t her e wi t h
cower i ng l i ke a mangy dog i s somet hi ng t hat I ' l l never f or get .
Sadl y, al l t hi s di d was made sur e t hat ever yt hi ng t ook pl ace i nsi de t he house. Wi t h my
f at her i t was a bel t or hi s back hand. Wi t h i t was sl aps i n t he head, punches, bel t
and f l y swat t er .
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So t hat l eaves my t est i mony al ong wi t h t hat of my br ot her . No wi t nesses as I woul d
i magi ne.
I t ' s not l i ke has t o wor r y about pi ct Hr p" " r anyt hi ng el se.
He pr obabl y won' t even admi t t o havi ng babysat l nd I .
Even t hough I was t he l aughi ng st ock of t he ot her oase br at s at t he t i me as a r esul t of
havi ng been caught i n t he act wi t h , I ' mmor e t han cer t ai n t hat none of t hemwouLd
acknowl edge r emember i ng anyt hi ng t 0~~r _. . . i f t hey di d act ual l y r emember anyt hi ng.
Ny grandmother, ... l-..........~rson who pi ved 3..S been dead since '86.
So, t hat l eaves and I vs.
The onl y t hi ng I t hi nk mi ght hel p ac LU~~ vvi nt i n t i me i s my i nf or mat i on package f r om
Al ber t a Fami l y and chi l d Ser vi ces.
Mr. Morris,
I was j ust wonder i ng i f you have a copy of my f i l e f r omAl ber t a Fami l y and Chi l dr en
Ser vi ces f r omback in ' 80 t o ' 83 and i f you f or war ded a copy of t hi s al ong t o t he cr o. m
pr osecut or .
I know t hat t hi s case i s goi ng t o be ext r emel y har d. Fi r st of cour se my f at her f or
\Olhateverreason V/OD' t IrememberI ever seeing vJhythat is, I can't explain.
Fr om: Bobbi e Gar net Bees [ mai l t o:
Sent : Wednesday, 19, Oct ober , 2011 1~: ~~ VM
To: Mor r i s POI SMCFNI SEdmont on
Subj ect : J ust wonder i ng. . .
Le pr esent message et t out es l es pi eces j oi nt es qui l ' accompagne cont i enne de
l ' i nf or mat i on sensi bl e ou pr ot egee dest i nee uni quement a l a per sonne ou a l ' ent i t e a
l aquel l e el l e est adr essee. Tout e di f f usi on, di st r i but i on, copie ou aut r e act i on
concernant son contenu par une autre personne que son destinataire est strictement
interdit. Si VOllS avez re9U ce message par erreur, veuillez mien informer immediatement a
l'adresse ci-desslls et I'effacer. Merci
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Bui l di ng 304 \ Le Bat i ment 304 P. O Box 10500\ P. O. Boi t e 10500 Edmont i on, AB, Canada TSJ
4J 5 st even. mor r i s3@f or ces. gc. ca Tel ephone \ Tel ephone 780- 973- 4011 ext 5008 Facsi mmi l e \
Tel ecopi eur 780- 973- 1648 Gover nment of Canada\ Gouver nement du Canada CSN 528- 5008
We don' t have a copy of your f i l e and at t hi ~~i mp. we don' t need a copy t o go ahead wi t h
our r ecommendat i ons of char ges agai nst : The f i l e " as sent t o t he Cr owns of f i ce
yest er day f or r evi ew and we ar e awai t i n~ a r epLy. I f and when t hi s goes t o t r i al your
addi t i onal i nf or mat i on coul d be pr ovi ded t o t he Cr own at t hat t i me. When we hear f r omt he
Cr own you wi l l be i nf or med as t o t he out come.
Mr Bees,
Thursday,20, October, 201110:21
'BobbieGarnet Bees'
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Bobbie Garnet Bees
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I don' t know i f I ' ve made i t cl ear , but I ' m not i n t hi s f or t he money.
I don' t want money. Money i sn' t goi ng t o put me i n a t i me machi ne and money i sn' t goi ng t o
r i ght al l of t he hi st or i c wr ongs.
r j ust want and mor e i mpor t ant l y I need t o at one f or what he di d and t o be hel d
account ahl e.
Unl i ke I ' m not goi ng t o sue t he Canadi an Ar med For ces, The Mi ni st er of Nat i onal
Def ence, t he III, - , , , di ocese of Edmont on or t he f or mer Capt ai n Fat her I n f act ,
I ' d r eal l y l ove f or ' s name t o not be br ought up i n t hi s case at : a. ' - " . . ~r st , he' s
dead. Second, he WO<.lLU" t have had access t o me had i t not been f or . ' Thi r d and
most i mpor t ant l y what ever he di d do f or var i ous r easons I can' t r eme" W<: : LclUU. I ' mmor e
t han happy t o keep i t t hat ' Yay.
At t he end of t hi s, I ' l l st i l l be a mai nt enance engi neer wor ki ng wher e r " , or k. I t ' s t he
onl y pl ace t hat I can f i t i n.
Thi s case as I hope you can under st and i s f ar t oo i mpor t ant f or me now.
I am at a poi nt i n my l i f e wber e I have r eal i zed t hat I ' ve wast ed my ent i r e l i f e and i t
was al l due t o my f ear of speaki ng out about .1 back i n 1980 as I shoul d have.
I ' m not goi ng t o get i nt o t he coul da, shoul da, Wv~~ __ debat e. But yes, i t di d af f ect me i n
a ver y negat i ve way. The psychol ogi cal r epor t s t hat I ' ve obt ai ned f r om Al ber t a Fami l y and
Chi l d ser vi ces speak t o t hat . My compl et el y abor t ed academi c car eer al so speaks t o t hat .
Hi J udy,
I ' mnot sur e wbat I need t o do next or i f I need t o do anyt hi ng.
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> Vi ct i m Assi st ance Coor di nat or
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> We wi l l l et you know what t hei r deci si on i s. I t may t ake 3 t o 4
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> I f you have any quest i ons or concer ns, pl ease cont act me.
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> The Cr own Pr osecut or i s r evi ewi ng t he f i l e t o ei t her aut hor i ze
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Sor r y, sent t hi s message t hough wi t h some at t achment s, but some mai l boxes came back as
sayi ng t he message was t oo l ar ge, so I ' ve r emoved t he at t achment s.
Bobbie Garnet Bees:
Thursday, 20, October, :LtJ 1102:43
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Fi nal l y, what; happens i f t he cxown deci des t hat i t ' 5not wor t . hwhiLe t o pur sue a 30 year
ol d chi l d mol est at i on accusat i on? Iguess t hat I ' m OD my own, r i ght ?
Pl ease, l et me know what el se you t hi nk i mi ght me abl e t o put t oget her t o pr ove t o t he
Cr Ol ' f f i t hat I am a good per son and t hat I do f i nal l y deser ve my j ust i ce.
I ' ve at t ached a f ew document s, I ' l l see what el se I can di g up i n t he next f ew days. My
" Chi l d I nt er vent i on" r ecor ds f r om Al ber t a Fami l y and Chi l d Ser vi ces cl ocks i n at 150~lB, I
can r escan t he package wi t h a l ower DPI and hi gher compr essi on. So f ar t he mi l i t ar y hasn' t
been abl e t o obt ai n my psychol ogi cal r epor t s f r om 1980 when my br ot her and I wer e br ought
t o t he at t ent i on of t he mi l i t ar y soci al wor ker Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke. I have appl i ed t o t he
ar chi ves i n Ot t awa so hopef ul l y t hey show up soon.
Anot her r eason J udy why I r eal l y want t o go af t er : i s I r eal l y want t o see hi m
j ust i f y t o a J udge of t he Bench j ust why exact l y he cni nks he was deser vi ng t o sue t he
Mi ni st er of Nat i onal Def ence, et al i n 2001 when he had done t he exact same t hi ngs t o my
br ot her and Ias \ ' I hathe cl ai med t he f or mer Capt ai n Fat her , had done t o hi m.
Now, bei ng t he sol i t ar y per son t hat I am, I can' t come up \ ' l i t ht oo many r ef er ences, but I
am at t achi ng what I can. Maybe you can pass on t he at t achment s t o t he Cr own Pr osecut or .
Somehow Ihave t o pr ove t o t he Cr own Pr osecut or t hat I ' m not some desper at e \ dng nut out
t o make a qui ck buck.
I need i t made cl ear t o t he Cr own Pr osecut or j ust how much t hi s case means t o me and f or
me.
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So i s someone \ " i l l i ngt o expl ai n t o me what; i s goi ng on>
How can i t be, t hat t he mi l i t ar y, t he or gani zat i on t hat pr act i cal l y i nvent ed t he
t r i pl i cat e f or mdi dn' t r equi r e t hei r soci al wor ker , Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke, t o keep r ecor ds.
And how i s i t t hi s same mi l i t ar y, t he same or gani zat i on t hat can t el l exact l y Hhen a 80
year ol d Lee- Enf ei l d r i f l e was pur chased, can' t f i nd t he r ecor ds of one of i t ' s r et i r ed
enl i st ed per sonnel nor t he paper wor k gener at ed by a Capt ai n i n t he ar med f or ces?
So, Ido as Iam t ol d, Isend of f a r equest t o t he Ar chi ves. No r esponse f r omBi l l . Be
won it. r et ur n t el ephone messages or r epl y t o emai l . The f or mal wr i t t en r equest t hat Isent
was si gned f or when Canada Post del i ver ed i t . But st i l l no r esponse.
Now cont r ast t hi s with my r equest t o t he Depar t ment of Nat i onal Def ence f or any document s
t hat Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke had about me af t er my f ami l y had been br ought t o hi s at t ent i on.
Not hi ng.
Nada.
And unl ess I can t el l t he D. N. D. exact l y what document s I am l ooki ng f or and wher e t hey
ar e st or ed, Iam out of l uck.
Imade a r equest t o t he pr ovi nci al gover nment of PEl f or my medi cal r ecor ds whi l e my
f at her was st at i oned at CFB Summer si de. T. , oweeks af t er Isent t he r equest a r epl y came t o
me st at i ng t hat t hey acknowl edge t he r ecei pt of my r equest and t hat t he r equest ed
document s wi l l be f or t h comi ng.
Imade a r equest t o t he hospi t al Iwas bor n i n f or al l medi cal document s f r ommy bi r t h up
t o appr oxi mat el y 1976. Less t han one week l at er I had a quot e f or t he document s and t hey
are .nc... J on their way.
The Chi l dr en' s Ai d Soci et y of Tor ont o was j ust as speedy. Less t han a mont h f r om t he
r equest unt i l Ihad t he document s i n my hand. Si ck Ki ds Hospi t al i n Tor ont o was even
qui cker wi.t.h t hei r r esponse.
For i nst ance, Isubmi t t ed a r equest t o t he Al ber t a Gover nment f or my ' chi l d and Fami l y
Ser vi ces r ecor ds' on May 13t h, 2011 my r equest was acknowl edged on J une 8t h, 2011 and a
quot e was gi ven f or t he f ee. Ipai d my f ee and r ecei ved my i nf or mat i on shor t l y t her eaf t er .
Al l 195 pages dat i ng back f r om 1980. The document s wer e i n my hand by t he end of J une,
2011.
Wel l , t hi s has been an i nt er est i ng f ew mont hs, no? What has become appar ent i s j ust how
di f f i cul t i t i s t o obt ai n per sonal i nf or mat i on f r om t he Depar t ment of Nat i onal Def ence. I
know t hi ngs ar e di f f er ent out her e i n ci vy l and, but t hey can' t be t hi s di f f er ent .
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bill.wood@lac-bac.gc.ca; HoffmanJ @ADM(Fin CS) DAIP@Ottawa-Hull; Morris P01
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Obtainingmy personal information.
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So, her e' s wher e we si t . I ' m goi ng t o l eave t hi s t o t hose named i n t hi s emai l t o sor t i t
out as t o how t o get t o me t he i nf or mat i on t hat I am r equest i ng.
To hel p r ef r esh memor i es her e i s a l i st of what ; I am r equest i ng.
" Access t o any i nf or mat i on t he Ar med For ces ( Canadi an Ar med For ceS/ Depar t ment of Nat i onal
Def ence) may have about me i n r egar d t o my f ami l y' s i nvol vement wi t h Capt ai n Ter r y
Tot zke" Thi s i s t o i ncl ude Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke' s not es about me Whi l e I was i n hi s car e.
Thi s i s al so t o i ncl ude any cor r espondence bet ween Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke and my f at her ' s
C/ o as ment i oned exi st s i n t he document s f r om Al ber t a Chi l d and Fami l y Ser vi ces. Ther e was
al so communi cat i on sent f r om Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke t o hi s count er par t i n Ont ar i o, Capt ai n
I hope t hat I don' t come of f as soundi ng t oo r ude, but I t hi nk t hat I ' m bei ng gi ven t he
r oyal r un ar ound.
The way I see t hi s, back i n Nar ch 2011, t hi s was j ust a t r i vi al case.
A hi st or i c compl ai nt of a t hen 7 year ol d boy bei ng mol est ed by hi s babysi t t er l ast i ng
f or over a year . But t hen t hi s wasn' t j ust a t r i vi al case, was i t ? Sor r y Bi l l , I won' t go
in t o much mor e det ai l , but i f you sear ch ar ound t he i nt er net you can easi l y f i nd out
more.
Thi r t y year s l at er , t he mol est ed boy deci des t hat he' s goi ng t o go f or hi s j ust i ce. But he
has no r eal i zat i on t hat he' s about t o encount er t he Canadi an Ar med For ces and t he
Depar t ment of Nat i onal Def ence at t hei r f i nest . Not onl y di d t he D. N. D. and C. F. t hr ow t he
boy and hi s younger si bl i ng under t he wheel s of t he j ust i ce t r ai n back i n t he summer of
1980, but now t hey seem t o be doi ng what t hey can t o ensur e t hat t hese t wo st ay put under
t he wheel s of t hat same j ust i ce t r ai n.
Anyways, i n my package of i nf or m~" i on f r om Al ber t a Chi l d and Fami l y ser vi ces i s a l et t er
r r nm Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke t o a . ' And l et t er t o Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke f r om
, of t he Canadi an Eauca~. LVU~~ dnd Psychol ogi cal Consul t ant s. Al so numer ous
da1. 1Y . LV; 'o__: s det ai l i ng t el ephone cal l s be t weer i an ar ea super vi sor wi t h Al ber t a Fami l y
and Chi l d Ser vi ces and Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke as wel l as meet i ng mi nut es i n whi ch Capt ai n
Ter r y Tot zke was i n at t endance. Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke was i n at t endance at Maj or Gener al
Gr ei sbach School on CFB Gr ei sbach and McAr t hur Publ i c School when I was i n t he speci al
educat i on pr ogr am. As wel l he at t ended meet i ngs at t he West f i el d Resi dent i al Pr ogr am.
Now, f or t he pr obl em. Appar ent l y Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke di d not keep r ecor ds, wasn' t
r equi r ed t o keep r ecor ds, J cept no l og ent r i es. He appar ent l y was a man who answer ed t o no
one. For some r eason, even af t er havi ng been t ol d t hat as a mi l i t ar y dependant my medi cal
r ecor ds wer e a par t of my f at her ' s r ecor ds Bi l l ' s depar t ment has now t ol d me t hat mi l i t ar y
dependant s have t hei r own medi cal f i l es.
At t hi s poi nt Bi l l , I ' m goi ng t o swi t ch f r o addr essi ng t hi s l et t er t o you and i nst ead
di r ect i t at ever yone named i n t he " To: " f i el d.
I have i n my hand copi es of my r ecor ds f r om ' Al ber t a Chi l d and Fami l y Ser vi ces' . My
f ami l y' s i nvol vement wi t h ' Al ber t a Chi l d and Fami l y Ser vi ces' came about as a di r ect
r esul t of Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke who was a soci al wor ker 11i t h t he Canadi an Ar med For ces.
These r ecor ds al l dat e f r om November 1980 unt i l Apr i l 1983. Ther e ar e
195 pages. Thi s i s j ust MY f i l e. Anyt hi ng havi ng t o do wi t h my br ot : her , my f at : her or my
st ep mot : her have been r emoved. So you can i magi ne t : hat :t : hi s f i l e woul d be qui t e a bi t
l ar ger i f al l i nf or mat i on had been i ncl uded. Thi s f i l e was gi ven t o me af t er I made a
r equest t o t he Al ber t a Gover nment . Cost me a measl y $50. 00. The Chi l dr en' s Ai d Soci et y of
Tor ont o was f r ee. Heal t h PEl has f ound t he i nf or mat i on r equest ed and t hey' r e t r yi ng t o put
i t t : oget her f or me. And I j ust pai d my f ee t o t he Nova Scot i a gover nment , so my r ecor ds
f r om bi r t h t o age f i ve ar e on t : he way.
Hi Bi l l ,
I j ust r ecei ved t he cor r espondence f r om your of f i ce. Al l I can say i s my j aw dr opped.
Subject:
Bobbie Garnet Bees,
Wednesday, 2, Novemoer, 2011 00:00
Wood, Bill
Fraser, Kristin; Morris P01 SM@CFNIS@Edmonton; Hoffman J @ADM(Fin CS)
DAIP@Ottawa-Hull
Re: FW: Obtainingmypersonal information.
From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
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> Si ncer el y,
>
>
>
> Bi l l Wood
> Di r ect or / Di r ect eur
> ATI P and Document Del i ver y Ser vi ces Di vi si on / Di vi si on de l ' AI PRP et
> des ser vi ces de f our ni t ur e de document s Ser vi ces Br anch / Di r ect i on
> des ser vi ces Resour ce Di scover y Sect or / Sect eur de l ' expl or at i on des
> r essour ces Li br ar y and Ar chi ves Canada / Bi bl i ot heque et Ar chi ves
:> Canada
> Room/ pi ece: 350, 395 Wel l i ngt on St . , Ot t awa, ON, KI A ON4
> E- mai l : bi l l . woodbac- l ac. gc. ca
> Tel / t el : 613- 947- 3888
:> Fax/ t el ecopi eur : 613- 992- 9350
:> Gover nment of Canada / Gouver nement du Canada
> *I - Mw. col l ect i onscanada. gc. ca
:>
>
> - - - - - or i gi nal Message- - - - -
>
> We have ver i f i ed our dat abase and a r esponse t o your f or mal r equest was mai l ed t o you on
Oct . 26t h, 2011.
>
> As i ndi cat ed bel ow, I have asked Kr i st i n Fr aser , t he Manager of our Per sonnel Recor ds
Ser vi ces sect i on, t o f ol l ow- up wi t h you concer ni ng t he i ssue out l i ned i n your message
( at t ached bel ol ' l ) .
>
> I f t el ephone messages or pr evi ous e- mai l messages I . er enot answer ed, I apol ogi ze but I
can assur e you t hat we st r i ve t o ensur e al l i nqui r i es ar e r epl i ed t o as qui ckl y as
possi bl e. I n t he case of t el ephone messages, i t shoul d be wi t hi n 24 - 48 hour s. Let t er s,
e- mai l s and/ or f axes t ake l onger t o answer but our nor mal pr ocess i s t o send out a " Let t er
of Acknowl edgement " t o t he cl i ent so t hat t hey know t hei r i nqui r y was r ecei ved and bei ng
pr ocessed.
>
> Thi s message i s i n r esponse t o your e- mai l of Oct ober 31st .
>
On 01/ 11/ 2011 2: 26 PM, Wood, Bi l l wr ot e:
> Dear Mr . Bees,
Your s Tr ul y,
No mor e r un ar ound, pl ease.
I ' d get down on my knees and beg each of you i f I t hought i t woul d do any good.
I ' ve pai d such a heavy pr i ce f or what ; someone el se di d t o me. I t ' s t i . met hat I st opped
payi ng.
That ' s al l I ' m aski ng f or .
Tyr el l l ocat ed at CFB Bor den, . Capt ai n Tyr el l was al so cont act ed by t he Chi l dr en' s Ai d
Soci et y of Tor ont o as i ndi cat ed by t el ephone l ogs kept by t he i nt ake wor ker i n char ge of
my case.
" P- 2011- 03284 : l l n" r l n~" m. .n~at i on f r om t he mi l i t ar y pol i ce i nvest i gat i on on CFB Namao r eo
Capt ai n Fat her , nd al l egat i oTI A m~r l A ~r r ~i n~~hi m, t hat have a di r ect r el at i on
t o me or makes ment i on of my name ( t hen ) , ment i ons t he' boys' or
ment i ons chi l dr en t hat may have been i n ~h . . r ~r e of one of t he boys maki ng Q1r ect
al l egat i ons agai nst Capt ai n Fat her . . . I nvest i gat i ons wi l l have occur r ed bet ween
1978 and 1980, some of whi ch occur r ed bet ween Hay
- J une 1980"
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> So, I do as I am t ol d, I send of f a r eguest t o t he Ar chi ves. No r esponse f r om Bi l l . He
won' t r et ur n t el ephone messages or r epl y t o emai l . The f or mal wr i t t en r equest t hat I sent
was si gned f or when Canada Post del i ver ed i t . But st i l l no r esponse.
>
> How can i t be, t hat t he mi l i t ar y, t he or gani zat i on t hat pr act i cal l y i nvent ed t he
t r i pl i cat e f or m di dn' t r equi r e t hei r soci al wor ker , Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke, t o keep r ecor ds.
And how i s i t t hi s same mi l i t ar y, t he same or gani zat i on t hat can t el l exact l y when a 80
year ol d Lee- Enf ei l d r i f l e was pur chased, can' t f i nd t he r ecor ds of one of i t ' s r et i r ed
enl i st ed per sonnel nor t he paper wor k gener at ed by a capt ai n i n t he ar med f or ces?
>
> So i s someone wi l l i ng t o expl ai n t o me what i s goi ng on>
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>
>
> The Chi l dr en' s Ai d Soci et y of Tor ont o was j ust as speedy. Less t han a mont h f r om t he
r equest unt i l I had t he document s i n my hand. si ck Ki ds Hospi t al i n Tor ont o was even
qui cker wi t h t hei r r esponse.
>
> I made a r equest t o t he hospi t al I was bor n i n f or al l medi cal document s f r om my bi r t h
up t o appr oxi mat el y 1976. Less t han one week l at er I had a quot e f or t he document s and
t hey ar e now on t hei r way.
>
> I made a r equest t o t he pr ovi nci al gover nment of PEr f or my medi cal r ecor ds whi l e my
f at her was st at i oned at CFB Summer s i de . Two weeks af t er I sent t he r equest a r epl y came t o
me st at i ng t hat t hey acknowl edge t he r ecei pt of my r equest and t hat t he r equest ed
document s wi l l be f or t h comi ng.
>
>
> Now cont r ast t hi s wi t h my r equest t o t he Depar t ment of Nat i onal Def ence f or any
document s t hat Capt ai n Ter r y Tot zke had about me af t er my f ami l y had been br ought t o hi s
at t ent i on.
> Not hi ng.
> Nada.
> And unl ess I can t el l t he D. N. D. exact l y what document s I am l ooki ng f or and wher e t hey
ar e st or ed, I am out of l uck.
> Wel l , t hi s has been an i nt er est i ng f ew mont hs, no? ~l hat has become appar ent i s j us t how
di f f i cul t i t i s t o obt ai n per sonal i nf or mat i on f r om t he Depar t ment of Nat i onal Def ence. r
know t hi ngs ar e di f f er ent out her e i n ci vy l and, but t hey can' t be t hi s di f f er ent .
>
> For i nst ance, I submi t t ed a r equest t o t he Al ber t a Gover nment f or my ' Chi l d and Fami l y
Ser vi ces r ecor ds' on May 13t h, 2011 my r equest was acknowl edged on J une 8t h, 2011 and a
quot e was gi ven f or t he f ee. r pai d my f ee and r ecei ved my i nf or mat i on shor t l y t her eaf t er .
Al l 195 pages dat i ng back f r om 1980. The document s wer e i n my hand by t he end of J une,
2011.
>
> Bi l l
>
>
> ----- Or i gi nal Message - - - - -
> Fr om: Bobbi e Gar net Bees [ mai l t o:
> Sent : Monday, Oct ober 31, 2011 10: u~ ~M
> To: Wood, Bi l l ;
> ~~I E. HOFFMAN@f or ces. gc. ca<J AMI E. HOFFr ~@f or ces. gc. ca>;
> st even. mor r i s3@f or ces. gc. ca<st even. mor r i s3@f or ces. gc. ca>
> Subj ect : Obt ai ni ng my per sonal i nf or mat i on.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Can one of you pl ease check i nt o t he si t uat i on descr i bed i n t he f ol l owi ng e- mai l and
t hen f ol l ow- up wi t h t he cl i ent , Bobbi e Bees, ASAP and al so pr ovi de me wi t h an updat e?
>
> Hi,
>
> Fr om: Wood, Bi l l
> Sent : November 1, 2011 9: 05 AM
>To: Fr aser , Kr i st i n
> Cc: Br azeau, Loui se; J oynt , Kevi n
> Subj ect : Fw: Obt ai ni ng my per sonal i nf or mat i on.
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At 0844 hr s, 23 Sep 11, MCpl HANCOCK at t empt ed t o cont act Mr PAGE, CF Fi r e
Mar shal Of f i ce, t o i nqui r e about t he st at us of t he sear ch f or t he paper
r epor t f r om a house f i r e at CFB Edmont on i n J un 80. A message wi t h cont act
i nf or mat i on was l ef t r equest i ng a cal l back. An ear l i er emai l chai n
i ndi cat ed a r equest t o Ar chi ves on 20 Sep 11, by Mr PAGE r equest i ng an
updat e had been sent but t her e was no r epl y.
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Related date: Fri, 23 Sep. 2011 at 08:44
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From: PageJ L@ADM(IE)CFFM@Ottawa-Hult
Sentfrommywireless handheld device 1Transmis de mon appareil portable
TimBerrea
Records Management Officer I Gestionnaire de I'information
DSISSS I DtSSSP
berrea.tp@ADM(Fin CS)DSISSS@Ottawa-Huil
Telephone I Telephone 613-998-72331Telecopieur I Facsimile 613-998-4236
Blackberry Contact 613-316-8423
Visit our web site: http://admfincs.mil.ca/ssslintro_e.asp
Thanks and Have a Great Day!
Will liaise with you when I have the response which is expected today or at the latest Monday.
I amawaiting a response fromthe military archivist at LAC before returninga response to ensure we have looked
everywhere.
Good Morning Mr. Page.
From: BerreaTP@ADM(FinCS) DSISSS@Ottawa-Huil
Sent: Friday, 9, September, 2011 05:35 AM
To: PageJ L@ADM(IE)CFFM@Ottawa-Huil
Subject: Re: Fire Report
-_._--..._--_.__..._----------------------_
Protect Yow' Family From Fire/ Pl'otegcz Votl'SFamillc DuFeu.
CFFM4-6 Fire&Life Safetyl DSIFC4-6 Prevention &Securite incendie
CanadianForcesFireMarshall Directeur-Servicedesincendies(Forcescanadienne)
National DefenceI Defensenationale
Ottawa, Canada KlA 01<2
luc.P-Qge@for<;,gc.ca
Telephone -Telephone 613-995-2958/ Fax I Teiecopleur 613-995-4832
Government of Canada I Gouvernement du Canada
English: hllR://acll1lie.o~1awa-hull.mil.ca/dgme/CFFM/CFFMl e.htm
Francais: httj2:/ladmie.ottawa-hull.mi I.ca/dgme/CFFM/CFFM 1 fhtm
Luc Page CD
Anyprogress on thisfile?
Tim,
From: PageJ L@ADM(IE) CFFM@Ottawa-Huil
Sent: Tuesday, 20, September, 2011 04:14
To: Berrea TP@ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@Otlawa-Huil
Cc: HANCOCK MCpl RJ @CFNIS@Edmonton
Subject: RE: Fire Report
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I havejust receivedarequest fromtheMilitaryInvestigators for aFireReport datingbacktoJ une 23rd1980
GoodDayTim,
From: PageJ L@ADM(IE) CFFM@Ottawa-Hull
To: Berrea TP@ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@Ottawa-Hul!
Cc: HANCOCKMCpl RJ @CFNIS@Edmonton
sent: Tue Sep 06 14:20:37 2.011
Subject: Fire Report
Sent from my wireless handheld device I Transmis de man appareil portable
TimBerrea
DSISSS I DISSSP
berrea.tp@ADM(Fin CS)DSISSS@Ottawa-Hull
Telephone I Telephone 613-998-72331 Telecopieur I Facsimile 613-998-4236
Visit our web site: http://admfincs.mil.ca/sss/intro_e.asp
We will require a couple of days at minimum to do the required search. I will liaise with you Friday morning to
provide a sitrep on the status and advise of findings. I hope this is acceptable.
Good Morning Mr. Page,
From: Berrea TP@ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@Ottawa-Hull
Sent: Wednesday, 7, September, 2.01106:06 AM
To: PageJ L@ADM(IE) CFFM@Ottawa-Hu!l
Cc: HANCOCKMCpl RJ @CFNIS@Edmonton
_._ _ ._ _ ,. .~.-.- ..-..---.-----..-- --.--_ ---..---------- ..---..-----.----.---.-- -,,--.-~- .
Pl'otect Your Family From Fire/ Proteqez Voo'e Famille DuFeu.
CFFM4-6 Fire &Life Safely/ DSIFC 4-6 Prevention &secunte incendie
CanadianForces FireMarshall Directeur-Servicedesincendies (Forcescanadienne)
National DefenceI Defensenationals
Ottawa, Canada KIA oK2
luc.~.@forc~~.gc,c;Q
Telephone -Telephone 613-995-2.958I Fax I Telecopieur 613-995-4832.
English: httjrlladmie.ottawa-hull.mil.caldg:me/CFFM/CFFMl e.htm
Francais: http://admie.ottnwa-hull.mil.caldgme/~J -~tMlCFFM Lf.htm
Luc Page CD
Thank uou.
To: BerreaTP@ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@Ottawa-Hull
Sent: Wed Sep 07 06:28:51 2.011
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Protect YourFamily From Fire/ Proteqez Voh'eFamille Du. Feu.
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CanadianForcesFireMarshal I Directeur-Servicedesincendies (Forcescanadienne)
Ottawa, CanadaKlA OK2
[J ,!_c;_,P-9_g~@forces.gc.ca
Telephone -Telephone 613-995-2958/ Fax I Telecopieur 613-995-'1832
English: httR:l/admie.ottawa-huILmil.caldgme/CFFM/CFFM 1 e.hll11
Francais: htq!;tlg.~IJ .J .~,.m.!f\wa-hull.mil.caldgme/CFFM/CFFM_lJ htIII
Luc Page CD
Regards,
Yourhelp inthis matter wouldbegreatlyappreciated.
Edmonton AlbertaPMQarea. I wouldrequireacopyof that firereport andalsodirectivesonhowand whoto
send it backto.
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At 1050 hr s, 23 Sep 11, Mr PAGE cont act ed MCpl HANCOCK and i nf or med t he
sear ch f or t he r equest ed Fi r e Repor t f r om Ar chi ves was st i l l bei ng
conduct ed. He was goi ng t o cont act MCpl HANCOCK once l ocat ed.
Update from Mr Page
Related date: Fri, 23 Sep. 2011 at 10:50
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At 0806 hr s, 27 Sep 11, MCpl HANCOCK r ecei ved an emai l f r om Mr PAGE
i nf or mi ng t he Fi r e Repor t s f r om CFB Edmont on f or t he 1980 t i me f r ame wer e
bei ng hel d at Li br ar y and Ar chi ves Canada ( LAC) . An ATI r equest woul d have
t o be put f or war d t o LAC t o obt ai n t he r ecor ds.
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Related date: Tue, 27 Sep. 2011 at 08:06
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Pteasenote the following links: User Card Registration Formand Ordering Material in Advance
Inorder to access the records I amproviding instructions on the procedures to do so.
The records for that time period that were kept here within the NCR for that time period were transferred to Library
andArchives Canada. Inorder to access this record someone will be required to examine the records to
determine if the report is contained within that file or files.
Interms of this request.
Apologies for the late reply as I had a medical procedure that was done that resulted in my unexpected absence
fromthe office.
Good Morning All.
From: BerreaTP@ADM(FinCS) DSISS5@Ottawa-HulJ
sent: Tuesday, 27, September, 2011 08:34 AM
To: PageJ L@ADM(IE)CFFM@Ottawa-HulJ iHANCOCKMCplRJ @CFNIS@Edmonton
Subject: RE: FireReport
Importance: High
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Protect Yow' Family FromFire/ Proteqez Voo'eFamille Dii Feu.
CFFM4-6 Fire & Life Safety/ DSIFC4-6 Prevention & Securite incendie
Canadian Forces Fire Marshall Directeur-Service des incendies (Forces canadienne)
National Defence I Defense nutionale
Ottawa, Canada KiA OK2
ilKJ ;!age@forces,gc.ca
Telephone -Telephone 613-995-2958/ Fax I Telecopleur 613-995-4832
English: hllR:L laci mj~&\1~~ya-lmtLmjJ ,ca/dgl11e/C rfM/Q:T:..M I =e~_hlm
Francais: I]tlP:I.!J lQ!llje,Q1lm.y.lJ -i11!ltmil&aJ dgme/CFFM/CFFHL J J J II11
Luc Page CD
I'msorrijfor the outcome of this request. In orderfor you toobtain acopy of theEdmorttonfire
report, you 01' !IOU!' Ol'ganisationwill have to submit anAccess toInformation request.
MCplHancock,
Importance: High
Page J L@ADM(IE) CFFM@Ottawa-Hull
Tuesday, 27, September, 201108:06
FW: Fire Report
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
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HANCOCKMCpl RJ @CFNIS@Edmonton
PagelofS
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Luc Page CD
I haven't I'eceived anything from archives as of yet. I left a message today with MI'Bet-rea to call
meback with an update. I will keep you posted.
II.spel' ow' telephone cOIH/el'sation,
From: Page J L@ADM(IE) CFFM@Ottawa-Huli
Sent: Friday, 23, September, 2011 12:S7 PM
To: HANCOCKMCpl RJ @CFNIS@Edmonton
Cc: Berrea TP@ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@Ottawa-Hull
Subject: FW: Fire Report
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+DSISSS Client Contact Center@ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@Ottawa-Hull
Pour un acces efficace aux services de la DISSSP, incluant la reservation de la salle de conference,
contacter Ie centre de contact ala clientele au 992-4000, option #2 pour la DISSSP ou envoyer votre
demande par courriel au:
+DSISSS Client Contact Center@ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@Ottawa-Hull
For convenient access to DSISSS services, including conference room bookings, contact our Client
Contact Centre at 992-4000, Option #2 for DSISSS or send your request by email to:
Tim Berrea
DSISSS I DISSSP
berrea.tp@ADM(Fin CS)DSlsSS@Ottawa-Hull
Telephone I Telephone 613-998-7233/ Telecopieur I Facsimile 613-998-4236
Blackberry: 613-316-8423
If there are any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me.
7667 - Construction and Engineering - Fires & Fire Damage
-2 - Reports
-E16 - Edmonton Alberta - Canadian Forces Base
File Number: 7667-2-E16 - Volumes 4,5,6 - Covering from 1977-10-04 - 1987-02-09
Accession 1997-98/354 - Box 11
The information you will require to order the material in advance is as follows:
!illR:llwww.coliectionscanada.g.QJ ;_<aLQQj/DD7DD2/f6/0D7D02-3020.2-e. rtf
You will also require an authorization letter to access the holdings here is a sample attached inthe following link:
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CanadianForcesFireMarshall Directeur-Service desincendies (Forcescanadienne)
National DefenceI Defense nationale
Ottawa, Canada KiA 0K.2
!ycJ 2pge@.forq'!~.gc.ca
Telephone -Telephone 613-995-2958/ Fax I Telecopieur 613-995-4832
English: http://admie.ott3wa-hull.mil.caJ dgme/CFFM/CFfMI_e.htm
Luc Page CD
Tiumkyou.
From: PageJ L@ADM(IE) CFFM@Ottawa-Hull
To: Berrea TP@ADM(FinCS) DSISSS@Ottawa-Hull
Sent: Wed 5ep 07 06:28:51 2011
----..._-.~........ _---_._._---_._--------._---------------
Sent frommy wireless handheld device I Transmis de man appareil portable
TimBerrea
DSISSS I DISSSP
berrea,tp@ADM(Fin CS)DSISSS@Ottawa-Hull
Telephone I Telephone 613-998-72331 Telecopieur I Facsimile 613-998-4236
Visit our web site: http://admfincs.mil.ca/sss/intro_e.asp
Will liaise with you when I have the response which is expected today or at the latest Monday.
I amawaiting a response fromthe military archivist at LAC before returning a response to ensure we have looked
everywhere.
Good Morning Mr. Page,
From: Berrea TP@ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@Ottawa-Hull
Sent: Friday, 9, September, 2011 05:35 AM
To: PageJ L@ADM(IE) CFFM@Ottawa-Hull
Protect Yow' Family Fl'Olll Fire/ Proteqez. Votl'e Famille DIl Feu,
CFFM4-6 Fire &Life Safetyl DSIFC 4-6 Prevention &Securite incendie
CanadianForcesFireMarshal ]Directeur-Servicedesincendies (Forcescanadienne)
National DefenceI Defenseuationale
Ottawa, Canada KLAOK2
luc.~@forces.gc.ca
Telephone -Telephone 613-995-2958/ Fax I Telecopieur 613-995-4832
English: ht\p;lla('l11ie.ott!!.'r\~1)..:J lllll.lllil.ca(.Qgme/CFFM/CEfMl~e.)W)1
Francais: b1tP:t/fl(l!)lig.mlf11'{~:b..1!.)J .miL.ca/clgme!CFFl'vIlCFFl\1L[.)llill
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CanadianForces FireMarshal I Directeur-Servicedesincendies(Forcescanadienne)
Ottawa, CanadaKiA oK2
!1!_ <;_ J l.Q gg_ @ foref;s .g~. eil
Telephone -Telephone 613-995-2958 / Fax I Telecopieur 613-995-'1832
Luc Page CD
Regards,
Yourhelp inthis matter wouldbegreatlyappreciated.
I havejust receivedarequest fromtheMilitaryInvestigators for aFireReport dating backtoJ une 23ro1980
Edmonton Alberta PMQarea. I wouldrequireacopyof that firereport andalsodirectives onhowandwhoto
send it back to.
GoodDayTim,
From: Page J L@ ADM(IE) CFFM@ Ottawa-Huli
To: Berrea TP@ ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@ Ottawa-Hull
Cc: HANCOCKMCpl RJ @ CFNIS@ Edmonton
Sent: Tue Sep 06 14:20:372011
Subject: Fire Report
Sent from my wireless handheld device I Transmis de mon appareil portable
Tim Berrea
DSISSS I DISSSP
berrea. tp@ ADM(Fin CS)DS ISSS@ Ottawa-Hull
Telephone I Telephone 613-998-7233J Telecopieur I Facsimile 613-998-4236
Visit our web site: http://admfincs.mil.ca/sss/intro_ e.asp
We will require a couple of days at minimum to do the required search. I will liaise with you Friday morning to
provide a sitrep on the status and advise of findings. I hope this is acceptable.
Good Morning Mr. Page.
From: Berrea TP@ ADM(Fin CS) DSISSS@ Ottawa-Hull
Sent: Wednesday, 7, September, 2011 06:06 AM
To: Page J L@ ADM(IE) CFFM@ Ottawa-Hull
Cc: HANCOCKMepl RJ @ CFNIS@ Edmonton
Protect' Your Family From Fire/ Proteqez {/ob'eFamille Dii Feu.
Francais: hltp-.;t(il~llnie.oltaWll:ill!lL!llil.c_a/dgme/CFFMlCFFMI f.htm
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J ean-Franc;:oisCoulombe
Senior InformationAnalyst
Access to Informationand Privacy
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Sincerely,
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1-866-578-7777or byemail at jean-francois.coulombe@bac-Iac.qc.ca.
"A militarypoliceinvestigation, GO 11-5754, beingconductedbythe CanadianForces
National InvestigationService, requests the FireReportfroma housefire thatoccuredat
the residence~ : was livingat in 1979/1980,at CFB Edmonton(Namao).
Itis believethe requestedTIrerecords are locatedin:
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EdmontonAlberta - CanadianForces Base."
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M/Cpl R.J . Hancock
National Defence
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Major
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Pleasefeel freeto contact the CaseManager, POISteveMorris at (780) 973-4011, ext 5008, if
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againsttheaccused. At thistimetheinvestigationhasbeenconcluded.
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Edmonton,Alberta, duringthelate1970s.
Dear Mr. Bees,
BobbieBees
Y November2011
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BobbieBees
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2. At 1320 hr s, 6 Apr 11, VSO at t empt ed t o cont act Mr BEES at bot h hi s
home and wor k number s. Ther e was no answer .
1. At 1310 hr s, 6 Apr 11, MCpl HANCOCK, advi sed VSO t hat Mr BEES woul d
l i ke VSO t o cont act hi m.
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At 0916 hr s, 7 Apr 11, Mr BEES r et ur ned VSO' s cal l . VSO pr ovi ded Mr BEES
wi t h t he cont act number f or Vi ct i m Li nk and t he Soci et y f or Mal e Sur vi ver s
of Sexual Abuse. VSO expl ai ned t hat she woul d be cont act i ng Mr BEES about
ever y t wo weeks t o updat e hi m on t he f i l e and answer any quest i ons at t hat
t i me. Mr BEES had no quest i ons f or VSO at t hi s t i me and t hanked VSO f or
cont act i ng hi m.
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At 1053 hr s, 21 Apr 11, VSO at t empt ed t o cont act Mr BEES. Ther e was no
answer . VSO l ef t a voi ce message updat i ng Mr BEES on t he f i l e and
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3. I nf o Package pl aced i n t he mai l 4 May 11.
2. At 0917 hr s, 4 May 11, VSO cont act ed Mr BEES. Mr BEES voi ced hi s
concer ns t o VSO. VSO advi sed Mr BEES t hat she woul d send hi m an
i nf or mat i on on Benef i t s f or vi ct i ms of Cr i me and Rest i t ut i on. Mr BEES
t hanked VSO f or cal l i ng hi m.
1. At 0805 hr s, 4 May 11, MCpl CYR i nf or med VSO t hat Mr BEES was upset and
r equest ed t hat VSo cont act hi m.
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2. VSO pr ovi ded Mr BEES wi t h an updat e, whi ch appear ed t o sat i sf y Mr BEES.
1. At 0855 hr s, 10 May 11, Mr BEES cont act ed VSO r equest i ng an updat e on
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3. At 1030 hr s, 18 May 11, Mr BEES cont act ed VSO aski ng whet her VSO had
been t r yi ng t o cont act her . Si nce VSo had not t r i ed t o cont act hi m, Mr
BEES wi shed VSO a good day.
2. On 17 May 11, VSO r ecei ved anot her emai l f r om Mr BEES wi t h concer ns
about t he f i l e. At 736 hr s, 17 May 11, VSO f or war d t he emai l t o WO HART.
1. On 13 May 11, VSO r ecei ved an emai l f r om Mr BEES wi t h concer ns about t he
f i l e. At 735 hr s, 13 May 11, VSO f or war d t he emai l t o WO HART.
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2. At 0718 hr s. VSO emai l ed Mr BEES updat i ng hi m on t he f i l e.
1. At 0715 hr s, 28 J une 2011, VSO r ecei ved an emai l e f r om Mr BEES
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2. At 1040 hr s 20 J ul y 2011, VSO cont act ed Mr BEES who was upset t hat PO!
MORRI S had not r el i ed t o hi s emai l . MR BEES want ed t o di scuss t he f i l e
wi t h VSo. VSo advi sed MR BEES t hat she coul d not di scuss or l i st en t o
anyt hi ng r egar di ng t he f i l e. VSO advi sed MR BEES t hat POl MORRI S was away
on a f i l e and woul d r epl y t o hi s emai l whenever he get s t he chance.
1. At 0730 hr s 20 J ul y 2011, VSO r ecei ved an voi ce message f r om Mr BEES
r equer st i ng VSO t o cont act hi m.
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At 0914 hr s, 4 Aug 2011, VSO emai l ed Mr BEES updat i ng hi m on t he f i l e and
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At 0910 hr s, 18 Aug 2011, VSO emai l ed Mr BEES updat i ng hi m on t he f i l e and
i nf or mi ng hi m t hat VSo wi l l be away on l eave f r om t he 20 Aug unt i l 5 Sep
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6. At 1415 hr s, 4 Nov 111 VSO r ecei ved a cal l f r om Mr BEES aski ng i f VSO
knew f r om t he begi nni ng t hat char ges woul d not be appr oved. VSo expl ai ned
t o Mr BEESI t hat she j ust f ound out f r om POl MORRI S t oday of t he Cr own' s
deci si on not t o r ecommend char ges. Mr BEES want ed t o know who t he Cr own
was. VSo i ndi cat ed t hat she di d not knowl but POl MORRI S woul d know. Mr
BEES t er mi nat ed t he cal l .
5. At 1302 hr sl 3 Nov 111 VSO emai l ed Mr BEESI i nf or mi ng hi m t he Cr own
Pr osecut or has not r et ur ned t hei r deci si on t o appr ove char ges.
4. At 1313 hr s, 19 Oct 111 VSO emai l ed Mr BEES i nf or mi ng hi m t hat we wer e
wai t i ng f or a deci si on f r om t he Cr own Pr osecut or whet her char ges wi l l be
l ai d or not .
3. At 1327 hr s, 3 Oct 11, VSO emai l ed Mr BEESI i nf or mi ng hi m t hat
I nvest i gat or s ar e st i l l wor ki ng on t he f i l e and i ndi cat i ng t o hi m t hat i f
he has any quest i ons or concer ns t o cont act VSo.
2. On 19 Sep 11, Mr BEE' s cont act ed POl MORRI S who answer ed Mr BEE' s
quest i on.
1. At 1330 hr s, 6 Sep 111 VSO emai l ed Mr BEESI updat i ng hi m on t he f i l e
and i nf or mi ng hi m t hat i f he has any quest i ons or concer ns t o cont act VSo.
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5. CFNT. C: : T A T P . RCI C wi l l be appr i sed t o assi st i n t he at t empt t o l ocat e Mr
~ _ sister.
4. The next st ep i s t o cont act t he Ont ar i o Educat i on Syst em ( Ar chi ves) i n
an at t empt t o get a pr oper spel l i ng of t he name of s si st er ,
as wel l as, at t empt i ng t o l ocat e her .
3. MCpl CYR al so not es t hat i n 1978 t he Gut hr i p. . C: : r : hool was r an by DND and
t he Ont ar i o Educat i on Syst em, and i f 3si st er was younger , she
woul d have been at t endi ng t he Gut hr i e School as wel l bet ween t he year s of
1978 and 1980.
2. MCpl CYR al so not es t ha~ t hi s woul d coi nci de wi t h Mr BEES' st at ement
t hat he bel i eved ' s si st er was younger and not ol der .
1. MCpl CYR not es t hat al l Hi gh School s i n t he ar ea and Al ber t a Lear ni ng,
whi ch woul d have r ecor ds of st udent s at t endi na Hi gh School s i n t he ar ea,
wer e cont act ed. None had t he r ecor d of a cween t he year s of
1978 and 1980.
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3. Sgt CYR not es t hat subj ect was never act ual l y spoken t o, as when Sgt
CYR spoke wi t h t he subj ect ' s f ~~her . he ( t he f at her ) st at ed t o Sgt CYR t hat
nei t her hi msel f nor hi s son ( woul d be speaki ng wi t h pol i ce.
At t empt s t o i nqui r e i f subj ect ( 1) woul d l i ke t o pr ovi de a
st at ement i n r ef er ence t o t hi s i nvest i gat i on.
2. Sgt CYR not es t hat Mr BEES' s younger br ot her woul d have t o be
i nt er vi ewed bef or e t he f i l e concl uded as he i s ment i oned as a possi bl e
vi ct i m as wel l .
1. As of 8 J ul I I , Sgt CYR post ed out of CFNI S WR.
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MCpl HANCOCK, CFNI S WR
Sgt RI TCO, CFNI S WR
Mr BEES
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d. af t er about 3- 4 f ondl i ng i nci dent s, st ar t ed t aki ng Mr BEES
down t o t he basement of Mr BEES' house and per f or mi ng or al sex on Mr BEES
f or about 15 mi nut es at a t i me. Thi s occur r ed on t hr ee di f f er ent occasi ons.
woul d pul l down Mr BEES' pant s and put Mr BEES' peni s i n hi s
mout h. woul d say ' pee pee' whi l e per f or mi ng t he act . On t he
second occasi on, Mr BEES mi si nt er Dr et ed t he wor ds ' pee pee' and ur i nat ed i n
) ut h. _J t mad at Mr BEES and spi t i t out on t he
f l oor . On t he t hi r d occasi on, las per f or mi ng or al sex on Mr
BEES when hi s f at her came home wi t h hi s gi r l f r i end. Mr BEES saw t hei r l egs
wal k past t he smal l wi ndows i n t he basement t owar ds t he back door . Mr
qui ckl y pul l ed Mr BEES' pant s up, t ol d Mr BEES he woul d ki l l hi m
i f he sai d anyt hi ng and went upst ai r s. That was t he l ast t i me
di d anyt hi ng sexual t o Mr BEES at t hat house;
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c. soon af t er ; . . " ' , - Cl r t ed wat chi ng t he br ot her s, he sat bot h
br ot her s down on ei t her si de of hi m on t he couch and put one hand down each
of t hei r pant s and f ondl ed t hei r geni t al s. That was t he f i r st i nci dent
i nvol vi ng i nappr opr i at e t ouchi ng of Mr BEES and t he onl y i nci dent t hat Mr
BEES r emember s hi s br ot her bei ng i nvol ved. The next t hr ee t i mes, Mr
- - - - - - - - r eached down Mr BEES' pant s and massaged hi s geni t al s and t ouched
nl S veH~~. Mr BEES i ndi cat ed he never got an er ect i on as he was t oo young
and woul d j ust st and t her e whi l e i t occur r ed. He di dn' t t el l
no or st op as had t hr eat ened hi m and sai d he woul d ki l . l niru -'-~
he t ol d anyone. The f ondl i ng i nci dent s occur r ed over a mont h' s t i me dur i ng
weekends when: woul d babysi t ;
b. ar ound ear l y 1978, af t er hi s mot her had l ef t t he f ami l y, hi s f at her
t ook car e of hi m and hi s br ot her whi l e l i vi ng at CFB Edmont on. Hi s
gr andmot her woul d wat ch t he boys when t hei r f at her was out but i n Oct 78,
t hei r gr andf at her ' s heal t h decl i ned and t hei r gr andmot her coul dn' t wat ch
t he boys as of t en. A nei ghbour hood t eenager , was t hen t aken
on as a babysi t t er ar ound Nov 78;
a. he had been sexual l y abused 10- 11 t i mes by an ol der t eenage boy, Mr
Nhen we was 8- 9 year s ol d whi l e l i vi ng on CFB Edmont on. He al so
i ndi cat ed hi s br ot her , ' ~ad been f ondl ed on one occasi on by Mr
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WI TNESS_STATEMENT: 1. At 1753 hr s, 31 Mar 11, MCpl HANCOCK conduct ed an
audi o and vi deo r ecor ded i nt er vi ew wi t h Mr BEES ( f or mer l y
: t he Vancouver Pol i ce Depar t ment , 3585 Gr avel ey St , Vancouver , O~.
Sgt RI TCO t ook not es moni t or i ng t he i nt er vi ew wher e Mr BEES st at ed t he
f ol l owi ng:
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h. t hi s ent r y i s a summat i on of t he i nt er vi ew wi t h Mr BEES. The ver bat i m
of t he i nt er vi ew l S cont ai ned on t he audi o and vi deo r ecor di ngs bei ng hel d
on f i l e.
g. he t r i ed t o r epor t t he i nci dent s a number of year s ago but was t ol d by
Edmont on Pol i ce Ser vi ce ( EPS) t hat i t was Mi l i t ar y Pol i ce ( MP) j ur i sdi ct i on
and by t he MPs i t was EPS j ur i sdi ct i on. The r eason f or hi m comi ng f or war d
af t er decades of t i me was he has had a l ot of per sonal gr owt h and changes
i n hi s l i f e st ar t i ng about 5 year s ~go maki ng hi m r eady t o come f or war d. He
al so had concer ns t hat mi ght st i l l be abusi ng chi l dr en. He
i ndi cat ed t hat he had spoken t o hi s f at her about I but hi s
f at her t ol d hi m he never knew anyt hi ng was goi ng on. He hasn' t spoken t o
hi s br ot her about anyt hi ng and doesn' t know how t o cont act hi m. He
r emember s i s bei ng bl ond wi t h an aver age bui l d but coul dn' t
r ecal l any speci f i c det ai l s about hi s appear ance; and
f . t her e wasn' t anot her i nci dent af t er t he si st er wal ked i n and shor t l y
af t er ' s house expl oded because of a gas l eak cr eat ed by
const r uct i on cr ew wor ki ng near t he house. He r emember ed t he expl osi on
happeni ng whi l e he was at school as he had hear d t he ' boom' . When he
r et ur ned f r om school , he saw t hat i t was - - ' s house. He never saw
or hi s f ami l y ever agai n. He bel i eved t nat as a r esul t of t he
ot her ki ds knowi ng about what ' s si st er had seen when she
wal ked i n, he was t r eat ed di f t er ent l y by member s of t he communi t y. He was
r emoved f r om t he base hockey t eam and never t aken t o t he squadr on wher e hi s
f at her wor ked agai n, even t hough he used t o go t her e al l t he t i me t o go
i nsi de t he hel i copt er s and vi si t t he uni t ;
e. t hen st ar t ed t aki ng Mr BEES over t o shouse
i n t o hi s bedr oom. On a number of occasi ons over t he next f ew mont hs Mr
T woul d t el l Mr BEES t o t ake of f al l hi s cl ot hes and l ay on t op of
t he bed. . r woul d t hen massage Mr BEES' r ect um and i nser t one or
t wo f i nger s i nt o hi s r ect um. He woul d al so make Mr BEES st r oke Mr
s peni s wi t h a cl osed f i st and J woul d f ondl e Mr BEES.
These encount er s woul d l ast about 30 mi nut es. never ej acul at ed
dur i ng any of t he i nci dent s. On one occasi on, t ol d Mr BEES t o
have a bat h wi t h hi m. Whi l e i n t he bat h, , at behi nd Mr BEES
and massaged hi s back and geni t al s. He had Mr BEES r each behi nd and st r oke
hi s er ect peni s. The l ast t i me t hat ( cont act ed Mr BEES sexual l y
was when s si st er wal ked I n t ne oedr oom dur i ng an encount er .
had Mr BEES bent over t he edge of t he bed and was t r yi ng t o
i nser t hi s peni s i n Mr BEES' r ect um. Mr BEES was yel l i ng f or hi m t o st op as
i t was ver y pai nf ul . wasn' t abl e t o i nser t i t as hi s si st er
had hear d t he yel l i ng, came i nt o t he r oom and saw what was goi ng on. Mr
hen st opped and wi t hi n mi nut es bef or e l eavi ng
r oom he hear d ot her ki ds out si de yel l i ng t hi ngs. Mr BEES went t o t he wl ndow
and saw 10- 15 ki ds st andi ng i n f r ont of J ' s house yel l i ng wor ds
l i ke ' f ags' and ' homos' . Mr BEES was al ar med at how f ast t he si st er had
caused t o gat her i ng af t er wal ki ng i n on t hem;
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f eel t hat he was a vi ct i m. He i nf or med t hat he hadn' t t hought much about i t
and i t hadn' t ef f ect ed hi s l i f e much. He coul dn' t pr ovi de a descr i pt i on of
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c. ~as never spoken t o Mr BEES about t ouchi ng hi m
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when i t came up i n conver sat i on t hat she had been sexual l y abused as a
chi l d;
b. he r ecal l ed t he babysi t t er ' s name bei ng. who he
bel i eves was a t eenaGer at t he t i me. He coul d onl y r ecal l one speci f i c
i nci dent . i n whi ch ~ , t ol d co mast ur bat p. his er ect
peni s. . al so r emember ed . ' . mast ur bat i ng
coul dn' t r emember i f he was er ect . i nf or med t hi s happened on t he
l i vi ng r oom couch of hi s r esi dence. He coul dn' t r emember anybody el se bei ng
t her e but assumed hi s br ot her ~Mr BEES) must have been ar ound. He
i nf or med i t may have happened mor e t hen once but coul d onl y r ecal l t he one
i nci dent ;
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MS DUMAS ( not e t aker )
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I NTERVI EW DATE: 2011. 05. 03
I NTERVI EW START TI ME: 1000
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h. t hi s ent r y i s a summat i on of t he i nt er vi ewwi t h Mr BEES. The ver bat i m
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g. he wi l l at t empt t o f i nd out names of t eacher s f r omt he ot her t wo above
ment i oned Hi gh School s t o see i f t hey coul d r emember t he name of a f emal e
and
f . ar ound t he year of , eavi ngt he Gut hr i e School , he
r emember s t hat a Mi l i t ar y Padr e had some i nvol vement wi t h young boys
( meani ngsexual assaul t ) and t hat he bel i eves t hat J - - - - . . mi ght
have been i nvol ved but was not sur e;
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he l ef t af t er Gr ade 7, as he does r ecal l
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bei ng a qui et chi l d wi t h gl asses.
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seei ng hi maf t er t hat gr ade;
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younger br ot her ;
a. he was a t eacher at t he Gut hr i e School , CFB Edmont on, AB, bet ween t he
year s of 1978 and 1980;
by MS DUMAS, MCpl
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i nt er vi ew, { pr ovi ded t he f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
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h. he st at ed t hat he never r emember s hi r i ng a mal e of f emal e babysi t t er
af t er t hi s t i me ( whi l e on base or i n Cr i esbach) , but t hat t he f emal e
nei ghbour t hat r esi ded acr oss t he st r eet f r om t hem woul d keep an eye on t he
boys and f ur t her conf i r med t hat no one ever came t o t he house ( t hat he i s
awar e of ) t o l ook af t er t he bnv~ ~hp. nei ghbour acr oss t he st r eet woul d
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g. . l so conf i r med t hat he had separ at ed f r om Mr BEES' s mot her
bef or e movi ng t o Edmont on i n 1978 and t hat he moved up her e al one wi t h hi s
son' s, whi ch i ncl uded Mr BEES and t hat hi s mot her ( Mr BEES' s gr andmot her )
di d t ake car e of t hem f or a cer t ai n amount of t i me. Af t er hi s
f at her past away, hi s mot her st at ed t hat she woul d no l onger l ook at t er t ne
ki ds, whi ch coi nci des wi t h Mr BEES' s st at ement ;
a descr i pt i on of wher e hi s PMQ was l ocat ed on t he
pr ovi ded a sket ch whi ch af t er r evi ewi ng and
CYR conf i r med t hat i t was t he same l ocat i on as t o
i n hi s i nt er vi ew;
f . when asked t o nr ovi de
base i n Edmont on,
conf i r mi ng wi t h hi m, MCpl
what Mr BEES h~d pr ovi ded
e. he di d conf i r m t hat Mr BEES at t ended t he Gut hr i e school whi l e post ed i n
Edmont on i n 1978, and f ur t her added t hat when he moved t o Gr i esbach PMQ' s,
t hat Mr BEES di d change school s and st ar t ed at t endi ng t he Gr i esbach school ;
d. he al so st at ed t hat he has never hear d of a and t hat
i t was t he f i r st t i me t hat he had hear d of hi s son bei ng sexual l y assaul t ed;
c. he has not spoken t o hi s son si nce a phone conver sat i on t hey had l ast
when Mr BEES t ol d hi m t hat he had been sexual l y assaul t ed by
whi l e r esi di ng on base i n t he l at e 70' s;
b. he i s not awar e of a speci f i c ar ea of wher e i s son i s pr esent l y l i vi ng,
but onl y knows t hat he i s r esi di ng i n Vancouver , BC;
a. he conf i r med t hat he i s t he f at her of Mr BEES as wel l as conf i r med t hat
he was i n t he CF and post ed t o Edmont on, AB, i n 1978. He f ur t her st at ed
t hat whi l e post ed t o Edmont on, AB, i n 1978 t hat he r esi ded on base and i n
Gr i esbach, Edmont on, AB, whi ch i s l ocat ed on 97t h St , Edmont on, AB;
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WI TNESS STATEMENT: 1. At 1350 hr s, 9 J un 11, accompani ed by MCpl J ODREY,
MCpl CYR conduct ed an audi o/ vi deo r ecor ded i nt er vi ew wi t h Dur i ng
t hi s i nt er vi ew, r , r ovi ded t he f ol l owi ng i nf or mat i on:
WI LL SAY:
. 11 say t hat Mr Bobby BEES ( f or mel y . . i s hi s son
ana t nat t hey wer e post ed t o CFB/ ASU Edmont on, AB, i n 1978. He wi l l al so
say t hat he does not r emember ever hi r i ng a babysi t t er t o wat ch hi s sons at
t hat t i me.
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n. t hi s ent r y i s a summat i on of t he i nt er vi ew wi t h The ver bat i m
of t he i nt er vi ew i s cont ai ned on t he audi o and vi deo r ecor di ng bei ng hel d
on f i l e.
m. MCpl CYR pr ovi ded i _t h al l cont act i nf or mat i on f or MCpl CYR and
r equest ed t hat he ( cont act MCpl CYR i f he coul d r emember t he names
of t he peopl e t hat r esi ded i n f r ont of hi m whi l e r esi di ng on base i n
Edmont on, t he ones t hat woul d keep an eye on t he boys af t er school ; and
1. can not say i f hi s son was sexual l y assaul t ed or not . When he
was t ol d by Mr BEES t hat he had been sexual l y assaul t ed, asked hi m
why he i s onl y t el l i ng hi m now, whi ch Mr BEES coul d not gi ve hi m a pr oper
answer ;
k. was no~ awar e t hat hi s son had changed hi s bi r t h name f r om
, t o Bobby BEES. He knew t hat he had changed i t , but not awar e
of t he name
j. si nce Mr BEES has been r esi di ng on hi s own, t he onl y t i me t hat .
has hear d f r om hi m i s when he ( Mr BEES) needs some money;
i . except f or hi s l ast phone conver sat i on wi t h hi s son, each t i me Mr BEES
cont act s hi m ( i s t o get some money f r om hi m. An exampl e pr ovi ded
by was t hat at one poi nt , whi l e Mr BEES was r esi di ng i n Vancouver
her bought a bi ke t o be cl oser t o hi s f at her whi ch r esi ded i n Mor i nvi l l e,
AB, at t he t i me. When hi s bi ke br oke down, Mr BEES t ol d hi s f at her t hat
si nce he want s t o be cl oser t o hi m, t hat he I shoul d be payi ng f or
t he r epai r s f or hi s bi ke. Anot her exampl e was when Mr BEES vehi cl e br oke
down whi l e vi si t i ng hi s bi r t h mot her , i n t hat because he had t o dr i ve t he
vehi cl e down di r t r oads, i t was hi s mot her ' s f aul t t hat hi s vehi cl e i s
br oken and t hat she shoul d pay f or t he r epai r s;
h. at one poi nt t hey had t o br i ng Mr BEES t o see a chi l d physi ol ogi st i n
Edmont on, whi ch was st at ed t hat t hey di d not know what was wr ong wi t h Mr
BEES and t he onl y sol ut i on woul d be t o pl ace hi m on medi cat i on f or hel p, i n
whi ch di d not agr ee t o;
g. si nce Mr BEES was l i t t l e, he ) has had di sci pl i ne pr obl ems wi t h
hi m, i n whi ch i ncl uded get t i ng t el ephone cal l s f r om t eacher s st at i ng t hat
Mr BEES was di sr upt i ve i n cl ass, and f ur t her al so get t i ng sent home;
name of t he l ady and/ or her husband;
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wi l l be assi st i ng you. Revi ew t he i ni t i al compl ai nant emai l , cr eat e a t ext
box accept i ng t hi s f i l e and gener at e your i nvest pl an. Have someone
cont act t he Vi ct i m i n t hi s mat t er t o get f ur t her i ni t i al det ai l s of t hi s
mat t er and t o ar r ange t o be f or mal l y i nt er vi ewed as t he Op Tempo al l ows.
MS DUMAS
FOLLOW UP
CFNIS WR File Assignment
Lock Code: BRRFQCCA
Follow Up Report # 1
Assigned to 4757 DUMAS, FREDERIC Rank: LS
Capacity: LEAD INVESTIGATOR
Orgunit: CFNIS WR Invest A
Assigned onMon, 07 Mar. 201114:30 By 3332 HART, BLAIR R
Report due onSun, 05 Jun. 2011
Remarks: SEE ATTACHED TEXT BOX
Checked by: 4231 MORRIS, STEVE
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POI MORRI S
You have been assi gned as t he l ead i nvest i gat or i n t hi s mat t er . Revi ew t he
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MCpl HANCOCK
FOLLOW UP
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Follow Up Report # 2
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Capacity: LEAD INVESTIGATOR
Orgunit: CFNIS WR Invest A
Assigned on Thu, 28 Jul. 201118:26 By 4231 MORRIS, STEVE
Report due on Tue, 24 Jan. 2012
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2. Thi s f i l e wi l l not be di st r i but ed as t he al l eged i nci dent occur r ed i n
t he Edmont on PMQ ar ea i n t he l at e 1970' s and i nvol ved no per sons subj ect t o
t he code of ser vi ce di sci pl i ne.
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st eps t aken and concl usi ons r eached.
Agency: Military Police
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SUPERVISOR CONCLUDING R
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VERIFIED
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Location: CFB NAMAO HISTORICAL CASE
Approved onThu, 19 Jan. 2012 by 4309 BOLDUC, FRANCIS
Reported onMon, 07 Nov. 2011 09:24
Occurred between Thu, 03 Mar. 2011 09:24 and Mon, 07 Nov. 2011 08:00
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viQ there were about 10to 12kids onthe fromlawn of the house taunting
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hisbedroom and found himbuggering me. She called her friends. Theend result was when 1
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lIS sister walked into 11. During this interview I had stated that inthe spring of 1980
sex, and finalJ y to anal intercourse.
10. In this interview 1laid out how the abuse bodprogressed fromunwanted sexual touching to oral
9. I was interviewed atVancouver Police Department Headquarters by Mcpl Robert Hancock. This
interview occurred on Thursday March 31", 2011 at approximately 18:30
8. I was contacted shortly thereafter by a Master Seaman Frederick Dumas.
6. It hasyet tobedetenninedjust exactly how many other mi1itary~ were inthe care of
this particular baby sitter. ""'O~
7. The Edmonton Police Servicepassed this infonnatio~ CanBliianForces National
Investigation Services. ~.
intercourse.
5. These events ran the full gauntlet ofchild sexual abuse fromunwanted touching toanal
4. These events involved amilitary dependant baby sitting other military dependants.
3. Theseevents occurred over ayear and ahalf.
2. There were nwnerous incidents of sexual abusethat occurred on Canadian Forces Base Namao.
sexual abuse claim that covered the years 1978 to 1980.
I. OnMarch 3td,2011 1sent anemail message tothe Edmonton Police Service regarding ahistoric
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_____-r-__ was older than Mcpl Cyr had stated.
21. It was through newspaper articles resulting fromthis search that I was able to determine that
National Defence in200) .
, _. _jsued the Minister of
20. The most alarming thing about this search was thaI
internet
19. OnMay 3n1 when I arrived at home fromwork, 1was able to do avery easy search onthe
CFBNamao.
would have been 7whenhe started and 8when he stopped. My brother would have been 5and
6respectively. A,
17.Mop' Christian Cyr alsoasked mebluntlyifIwas ( : S : > ~the~ 01
18. sse chaplain, had been charged~ molesting three kids on
vas 14when he started molesting me and 15when he stopped. I
conclude that
vas 13years old. Through my ownresearch I was able to
16. He statedthat
ladno sister.
1s. He stated tha
untrue.
14. McpJ Cyr told me two things inthis phone conversation that would prove to be completely
13. I returned the phone calion May 3n1, 2011 at approximately 12:20.
This message was left on my phone on the morning of May 3n!,2011
12. I was contactedby Mcpl Christian Cyr. He bad left avoice mail message asking me to call him.
and teasing me.
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thatthe old ones were inacompletely different location. This of course is alie. Those two
Namao andthe two chapels. One iscatholic and theother isprotestant. 1circled the one that is
Catholic. Mcpl Christian Cyr told methat I must be mistaken as thi>sechQrC~ were new and
chapel having been vandalized.
24. Also, I sent Mcpl Christian Cyr a'snap shot' from Google Earth showing anaerial view of CFB
on to molest more children.
2. There wasanother eventthat hadhistorically nev* any sense but now with the
knowledge of :,~ full sense now. Inthelate spring of
1980, myself and one 0e-~ent ovet'to the chapel andvandalized the
living quarters andthe chapel. ~.
23. During my phone conversation with Mcpl Christian Cyr whenI told him about vandalizing the
chapel he said that it couldn't have happened as there were no mili1ary police records of the
after. his release frommilitary prison moved to Toronto where he went
was a kiddie diddler.
Iwas completely unaware that
thechurch. You do have to realize that I had neverplaced any significance on these visits as
wafers andJ uice'. I don't remember anything after the J uice'. I don't even remember leaving
'. Once wewereinthe living quarters attached to the chapel we'd have
11mon at least three occasions taken me over to thechapel to see'
1.
22. Through acombination of entails and telephone calls I informed the CFNIS that what I had
thought to be previously unrelatedeventsmore than likely tied my casedirectly to
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chapels ~ the exact same ones from back in 1980.
25. Mcpl Christian Cyr also told me that I couldn't 'assume' that
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31. I contacted POI Steven Moms later in theafternoon, I had left work and went home as I was
against
via ablocked telephone number to inform me that the Crown was not going to pursue charges
30. OnFriday, November 481, 2011 at approximately 13:00 PST, POI Steven Morris contacted me
different departments.
transferred out of CFNIS as well, theinvestigators on my case hadall beentransferred out to
investigation up to that point. I received information fromW/O/ Blair Hart that he had just been
28. The '980 investigation into . - .~ fIBwed as itdidnot tom00
the fact that _ .. was baby sitting nume on CFB Namao, not just my
brother and I. C "
29. OnMonday J uly 18'\ 20111 sent anemail toQBlairH: enquiring as to the status of the
than he was and heneeded to portray himself as the victim.
He needed to shift the focus away fromwhat he had beat doing to military dependants younger
lad to go forth withhis allegations against
27. In 1980 being seen a being homosexual on a military base was not a very good thing. This is
was covering hisass.
; as a result of having been caught buggcring me, an 8year old. He
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26. It wasalso though the dates oftbe original arrest and conviction 01
', could have coincidentally beensomeone else. that those initials,
only the initials of the plaintiff were published inthe newspaper article about the lawsuit. And
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adolescent girls. Therefore it isplausible that the Canlldian Anned Forces IDepartment of
National Defence IMinister of National Defence would doanything, including interfering inan
investigation, in order to keep any thing that remotely looks like child sexual abuse from
surfacing. Especially abuse that occurred ona military base and that involved another military
subjected to anymore lawsuits resulting fromtheevents that occurred on CFB Namao
37. Also, one must take into consideration theresent episode of CoI~sel Wt.11iams,former
basecommander of CFB Trenton. What wasn't publicized ~ ~ case was the fact that
Colonel Russel WjUiams was found to have a sizable cbi~"'" graphy~llection on his
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computer, as well most of the undergarments that be stole and posed inwe those of young
Department of National Defence and The Office of The Minister of National Defence were not
36. I fully believe that as aresult of this lawsuit, C.F.N .I.S. was instructed to ensure that the
Alberta inwhich he sued 'The Minister of National Defence'
!WSuitin the Edmonton Court of Queen's Bench in
and they arealso aware of
events in 1980
35. C.F.N.I.S. is fully aware of the J
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34. Without statements from independent witnesses the case against '
caught us inhis bedroom hadbeen interview~. POI Morris said 'no'
rer had
33. I asked POI Morris if any of tilekids on thelawn fromtheday
interviewed andhis previously non-e.xistant sister had been interviewed.
32. During this phone conversation with POI Morris he statedthat I had been interviewed, my
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Pleasefindonthefollowingpagesmy statement outlining:what I havelearnt recentlv about thi>,,";n;n~1
1980investigationintothe affairsbetweenI landCanadianForces'
Thekidswhowereabusedby ~houldhavebeenlookedafter.Counsellingandtherapy at the
timewouldhavegonealongway. As it was, I guess peoplejust assumedthat we'dget over it intime.
Andthat withthepassageoftime, we'dbenormal andforget all about This didn't
happenunfortunately.
I fully believethat us kidsbeingmolestedb: - nweren't brought totheattention of theoutside
civilianauthorities havingjurisdiction asthemuuary didn't want tojeopardize thecaseagainst
j . 1can full imaginethat fielddaythedefencecouncil wouldhaveif they foundout
that _ washimself molesting. I wonder what ~ -fence council wouldhavedonehad
they beennotifiedthat theonlyreason _ evenwent tothemilitarypoliceinthefirst placewas
becausehewascaught by hisownsister buggeringmeintheir PMQ.
[ wishI couldsaythat I havefaithintheCanadianForcesor for that matter theProvost Marshal in
dealingwiththismatter properly. UnfortWlatelv.T havenofaiththatthis matter will bedealt with
properly. For 32yearsI'velivedwithwhat . didto meonCFBNamao. For 32yearsI've
livedwiththeemotional problems that hecreatedfor me. For 32yearsI'velivedwith beingblamed for
wha, didtomyyounger brother. I wasallowedtoplaytheroleof theinnocent
victimwhileI wasarbitrarily assignedtheroleof filth.
J wishtomakeacomplaint about theinvestigationintotheallegations against r
madeby 1 that ledtothecourt martial andsubsequent conviction 01
Towhomitmay concern:
ProvostMarshal
2200WalkleyRoad
Ottawa, ON
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_ then said" Wegot our four years, but then it was cut to two years and then 16
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He said that this character' was a prolific pyromaniac
He s"iri that during the investigation, there was some sort of falling out between IIand
this cid.
I asked him if he was saying that the the house fire that destroyed the PMQ wasn't
accidental.
said that he couldn't speak to that question.
then apologized and said that he couldn't remember much more. He asked me
for my phone number and said that he would call me if he could remember any more details.
Then, just before the end of the call he said" Mr. Bees, we tried so hard to put him away for a
long time. We were only able to get four years. Wewanted it to be in federal prison, but he was
sent to the stockade on Griesbach"
vas one of the other kids making allegations against
I asked him if he was aware that 1 lad been molesting young children.
He said "Mr. Bees, that is avery direct and pointed question that I am going to be unable to
answer unless you rephrase it"
Iapologized and rephrased the question.
Iasked him if the military or the military police in general were aware of what ,
had been doing to children inhis care as ababvsitter.
He replied" Mr. Bees, as you know, ~ _ is a very unsavoury character, not trust.
worthy at all, there were things about him that just weren't right"
! then asked me ifI was familiar with akid by the name of
Isaid" No. the name isn't familiar"
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iffair.
In the early part of November 2011, I made a plea in a Facebook group for 'Base Brats'
Ianswered my plea and provided me with the name of,
and his residential phone number, she also gave me the name of
I asked her who these were, she simply said "Meatheads. from back in the '70s and '80s
On November 27'\ 2011 Iplaced a phone call to
At this point Iwas completely unaware of who J was.
Iintroduced my self to I and explained to him that Ihad changed my name .
Ialso explained to him that I was a military dependant who was on CFB Namao in the years of
'78 to '80
Iasked him if he was stationed at CFB Namao inthe late '70s and early '80s.
He said "Yes"
Iasked him ifhe was familiar with the
He said yes.
He then asked me what this phone call was about.
Iexplained to him that Iwas one of the young children being babysat by
Iasked him ifI could ask him some questions about the affair
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Theconunents of ..__ ~ . alongwiththetone inhisvoicewhenhemadethecomments
conveysto methat theMilitary andtheMilitary Policeknewwhat ad done. Itisveryclear
tomethat theMilitary andtheMilitaryPolicewanted( todo somevery
serioustime. It is _._- _1__ ~._ -_ .1..._ 1..:_ =ieantpresenting -r-r : __1asaSimpleinnocent victim
inorder to deny defencecouncil any avenues toattack
character. TheMilitary andtheMilitary Policeturnedtheir backsonagroupof childrenandleft us
hangingout todry.
else.
I asked heknewthephonenumber for
Hesaidthat he's haveto think about it that hewasn't surewhere 1was.
A fewdaysafter this, afriendpointedout tomethat CFNIS wascreatedin 1996for afew
reasons, onewastoremovethemilitary policeout fromunder thelocal chainof command.
I havesincelearnt that in 1980,themilitary policehadnojurisdiction over "civilianon
civilian" assaults onmilitary basesandthat anyknowledgeof childsexual abuseoccurringon
CFB Namao wouldhavebeenrequiredto bepassedalongtothecivilianauthority having
jurisdiction over thebase. InthiscasethiswouldbeRCMP 'K' divisioninMorinville, Alberta.
I knowthemilitary policehadfulljurisdiction over the allegations against
wasanactiveservicemember whenthealleged
assaults occurred.
months andthenhewasreleasedafter 8months"
lenaskedmeif!rememberedtheweddingof J anet andWayneGretzky.
I apologized andsaidthat I wasn'tmuchof ahockey fan.
.hensaidthat hewasat theweddingin 1988. Hesaidthat hewasbeyond
furious weherealizedthat hewasstandingonthestepsof St. J oesph's Basilica.
Hesaid, " Mr. Bees, it wasn't right, not after what hehaddone.
I asked"
Hereplied"yes, therehewas,just asif nothinghadever happened, standingonthestairs with
J anet andWayne"
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Yours truly,
Should you have any questions or concerns, please contact Major (Francis) Bolduc at
613-993-9252 or Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class (paul) Champagne at 613-993 -9268.
Note that this new complaint will bemerged to thefirst one that you submitted and will
have the same reference number: 2120-20-2-3/2011-060. Oncethe preliminary review of
these complaints is completed, more information will beprovided to you.
The purpose of this letter is to advise you that our office has received the second
complaint that you submitted, dated 15December 2011.
Mr. Bees:
Mr. Bobbie O. Bees
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Mr Bees alsoincludedafivepageaccompanyingletterwiththecomplaintform.
"Failureto completelyinvestigateallegationof historical childsexual abusesufferedby a
former militarydependant. Thiscasewasgivenasoftinvestigationinordertoensure
that theMinisterof National Defencewasnot subjectedtoalawsuit."
4. On, 07Nov II, Mr BeesreportedhiscomplainttoMilitarypoliceComplaints
Commission(MPCC),whichisincludedinRef A. MrBeeswrotethefollowinginthe
'specific allegation(s)' boxof thecomplaintform:
"TheCFNIS WRinvestigationdeterminedthatthereisinsufticient evidencetolaya
chargeof GrossIndecency,Sec 157CC(1980)or IndecentAssaultonaMale, Sec 156
CC(1980). Legal reviewof thetileidentifiedalackof evidenceprovidedbythevictims
andnootherevidenceprovidedbywitnessescouldproveanoffencetookplace;
therefore, nochargeswill belaid. TheCFNISWR investigationisconcluded."
3. TheMP investigation(Ref B) waslaunchedafterreviewingthejurisdictional
issues, on07Mar 11andtheultimatelyconcludedon09Nov 11,withthefollowingtext
box:
2. On, 05Mar II, Mr BEEScontactedtheEdmontonPoliceService(EPS),viatheir
Corporatewebsite, reportinghewasaresidentat CFB Edmontoninthelate19705,and
duringthattimehewassexuallyabusedbyamalebabysitterwhowasalsothedependent
of aCF member. TheEPScontactedtheCFNISWRanditwasdecidedthattheCFNIS
hadjurisdictionandthemandatetoinvestigatethishistorical sexual assault.
BACKGROUND
I. Theaimof thisBrietingNoteistoinformtheChainof Commandof the[mdings
inrelationtotheProfessional StandardsreviewintoMr Beescomplaint(Ref A) and
establishif anyelementsexisttowarrantaPSInvestigation.
Refs: A. PSGeneral Occurrence2011-060.
B. General Occurrence2011-5754(Sexual Assault).
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e. H?'i M"pl Christian Cyr also told me that I couldn't 'assume' that
. hadsued anyoneasonly the initials of theplaintiff werepublished
in the newspaper article about the lawsuit. And that those initials,
couldhavecoincidentallybeensomeoneelse."
d. "24. Also, I sent Mcpl Christian Cyr a 'snap shot' from Google Earth
showing an arial viewof CFB Namao andthe two chapels. One is catholic
andthe other is protestant. I circledtheonethat is Catholic. Mcpl Christian
Cyr told methat I must bemistakenas thosechurches werenewand theold
ones were in a completelydifferent location. This of courseis a lie. Those
towchapels aretheexactsameonesfromback in1980."
c. "23. During my phone conversation withMcpJ Cyr when I told himabout
vandalizing thechapel hesaidthat it couldn't havehappenedastherewereno
military policerecordsof thechapel havingbeenvandalized."
b. "22. Through a combination of emails and telephone calls I informed the
CFNIS that what I hadthought to bepreviously unrelatedevents more than
likely tiedmycasedirectlytoI '
a. "14. Mcpl Cyr toldmetwo thingsinthisphoneconversationthat wouldprove
to becompletely untrue."
IS. "Hestatedthat Ihadnosister."
16. "He stated that _ 1 was 13 years old. Through my own
research I was ableto concludethat was 14when hestarted
molesting meand 15whenhestopped. I wouldnavebeen7whenhestarted
and8whenhestopped. Mybrother wouldhavebeen5and6respectively."
4. SgtNicholson further reviewedMr Bees' fivepagecomplaint letter ( Ref A) and
extrapolatedthefollowingsevenexcerptswhichexpresssomeofMr Bees' concerns/
complaints. Four of theexcerptsareinfavour of MCpl Cyrandtheremainingthree
directedat theinvestigationingeneral:
3. SgtNicholsonperusedMr Bees' two pageMPCC complaintformandthe
accompanying fivepagecomplaintletter ( Ref A) andnotedthat Mr Bees allegesthat the
CFNIS failed to completelyinvestigatedhiscomplaintof beingsexuallyassaultedand
further allegesthat the"soft investigation" wasorderedtoensurethat theMinister of
National Defencewasnot subjectedtoalawsuit.
2. Sgt Nicholsonconductedasearchof theMilitaryPoliceSAMPISdatabaseto
establishthenexus betweenMr BeesandtheMilitaryPolice. Hefoundthat Mr Beeswas
thecomplainant inahistorical sexual assault investigationwhichiscapturedinGO#
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Complaint c): UNFOUNDED
7. Complaint c) - Mr Bees' email to POI Morrisdated21Sep II, outlinesthat
MCpl Cyr questioned himwhether thevandalismat thechurchactually happened
becausehecouldnot findany MilitaryPolicereport to support. Mr Bees goes onto
explain that hebelievedthat :didnot report it asit wouldbringattention to
thekids that didthevandalismandassuchwouldshowtheir motivation stemmedfrom
himmolesting them.
Complaint b): UNFOUNDED
6. Complaint b) - TheMP report (Ref B) does~Pf1"ctthat Mr Bees didnot consider
that his sexual assault hadany association withthe_" As theinvestigation
progressed anddeveloped so didthememories ofMr Beesandassuchheexpressedthat
hebeganto believehis sexual assaults weretied inwithJ 's sexual exploits.
Notwithstanding, Mr Bees cannot declare withcertaintythat hewas sexually assaulted
by ~ ashis memories currently areunobtainable.
Complaint a): UNFOUNDED
5. Complaint a) - Thetwo concerns containedwithinthisreference didproveto be
untrueastheinvestigation developed; however, at thetimethey were believedto be
accurateastherewasno evidencetosuggest otherwise.
4. Sgt Nicholson reviewed RefB andgleanedthefollowing surmisedinformation
withregards toMr Bees' aforementioned complaints.
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g. "36. I fully believe that asaresult of this lawsuit, C.F.N.I.S. wasinstructed to
ensure that the Department of National Defence and The Office of the
Minister of National Defence were not subjected to anymore lawsuits
resulting fromtheevents that occurredonCFB Namao."
f. "33. I asked POI Morris if any of the kids on the lawn from the day
sister had caught us in his bedroomhad been interviewed. PO1
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Complaint g): UNFOUNDED
11. Complaint g) - Thecompletereview of theMP investigation (Ref B) didnot
reveal any indication that would support theallegation that therewasinterference of any
nature. Furthermore, thedesign andcommand of theCFNIS ensures their independence
to conduct thorough investigations without fear of influencefromany command element.
Complaint f): UNFOUNDED
10. Complaint f)- Mr Bees couldnot identifythechildren fromthelawnin this
reference andas suchwould beimpractical for theinvestigators to establishtheir
identities andcurrent locations. If thesechildren could beidentified andlocated their
statements would only be'third hand' information, whichisjudicially considered to have
novalue.
Complaint e): UNFOUNDED
9. Complaint e) - Mr.nl Cvr's advice, not to assumetheinitials of theplaintiff inthe
lawsuit werethose o' is sound. Therational of thecourts inusing initials of
young people is toprotect their identity. This means therewill alwaysbesomeamount
of reasonable doubt intheir exact identity.
Complaint d): UNFOUNDED
8. Complaint d) - TheMP report (Ref B) does not contain any reference to this
GoogleEarthmapreferredto byMrBees. Withinthecontext of theinvestigation this
aspect ofMr Bees concernwould render littleto novalue.
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Date prepared: 17November 2011
Prepared by: NicholsonN.C. Sgt, CF MP GpPS, 613-993-9292
Reviewed by: ChampagneP. CP02, CF MP Gp, PS, 613-993-9268
13. A further PS investigationwould not bewarrantedandit isrecommended that no
further action becontemplated bythis office.
12. TheMP investigation (Ref B) wasverythoroughdespitethecomplicatedprocess
of retrieving thirty year oldevidence. Theinvestigatorscapitalizedonall availabJ e
evidenceandexhaustedthegarneredinformation. Basedontheinformation, factsandthe
evidence obtainedregarding theissues, areasonablepersonwouldconclude that aUMPs
associated withthis MP investigation (Ref B) actedwithinthescopeof their policing
duties andfunctions pursuant totheMPPTP, andnobreachof theMPPCC occurred.
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1. At 0733 hr s, 15 Dec 11, CP02 CHAMPAGNE r ecei ved a cal l f r om Mr BEES who
ment i oned t hat he had addi t i onal i nf or mat i on t o r epor t . Mr BEES st at ed
t hat an i nvest i gat i on was compl et ed by MP' s about Padr e many year s
ago and t he MP woul dn' t act appr opr i at el y and hi de some of t hei r f i ndi ngs
t o t he ci vi l i an communi t y. Mr BEES was t ol d t hat i f he wi sh t o make a
compl ai nt about t hi s di f f er ent i nci dent , he coul d by f i l l i ng i n an MP
compl ai nt wi t h al l det ai l s and send i t t o one of t he t hr ee addr ess on t he
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2. Mr BEES was i nf or med t hat bot h of hi s f i l es wer e under r evi ew and no
det er mi nat i on was made yet has some peopl e t hat needs t o be consul t wer e
st i l l on l eave. Mr BEES was al so t ol d t hat an i nvest i gat or was wor ki ng on
hi s case and he woul d be kept i nf or med of t he pr ogr ess of hi s f i l e and t he
f i ndi ngs at t he end. The conver sat i on was r ecor ded.
1. At 1225 hr s, 6 J an 12, CP02 CHAMPAGNE r ecei ved a cal l f r om Mr BEES who
ment i oned t hat he wi shes t o know how our f i l e was pr ogr essi ng and i f hi s
t wo compl ai nt s woul d be put t oget her i n a same f i l e our separ at ed.
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3. The conver sat i ons wer e r ecor ded.
2. At 1135 hr s, 23 J an 12, Mr BEES cal l ed CP02 CHAMPAGNE agai n r equest i ng
t he updat e. Mr BEES was i nf or med t hat a l et t er wi t h t he f i ndi ng of our
r evi ew was sent t o hi m on t he 18 or 19 J an 12 and t hat he shoul d be get t i ng
t he l et t er ver y soon. Mr BEES was gi vi ng a summar y br i ef of our f i ndi ngs
and was not sat i sf i ed. He st at ed t hat he woul d ask a r evi ew by t he MPCC.
1. Bet ween 1630 hr s, 20 J an 12 and 0700 hr s, 23 J an 12, Mr BEES l ef t a
message on t he voi ce mai l of CP02 CHAMPAGNE r equest i ng an updat e on t he
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G.M. Sansterre
DeputyCommander
CanadianForcesMilitarypoliceGroup
Yourstruly,
Shouldyouhaveanyquestionsor concerns, pleasecontactMajor (J im) Stewartat 613-
993-9252or Chief PettyOfficer2ndClass(Paul) Champagneat 613-993-9268.
A preliminaryreviewwill beconductedafter whichtimemoreinformationwill be
providedtoyou.
Thepurposeof thisletteristo adviseyouthatour officehasreceivedyourcomplaint,
dated7November 2011, throughtheOfficeof theChief of DefenceStaff.
Mr.Bees:
Mr.BobbieG. Bees
2120-20-2-3/2011-060(IrutAckLtr Comp) (PS)
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Yours truly,
Should you have any questions or concerns, please contact Major (Francis) Bolduc at
613-993-9252 or Chief Petty Officer 2nd Class (Paul) Champagne at 613-993-9268.
This matter remains at the preliminary review stage. Once thepreliminary review of
these complaints is completed, more information will be provided to you.
The purpose of this letter is to advise you on the progress in this investigation.
Mr. Bees:
Mr. Bobbie G. Bees
2120-20-2-3/2011-060 (60-Day Ltr Comp) (PS)
jCp J anuary 2012
Grand Prevotdes Forces canadiennes et
CommandantduGpde la PMdes Forces canadiennes
2200, cheminWalkley
OttawaON KIA OK2
CanadianForcesProvostMarshal and
CommanderCanadianForces MP Gp
2200Walkley Road
Ollawa ON KIA 0K2
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Inrelationtoyour secondcomplaint,whichstemsfromyourconcernsinvolvingMilitary
Policecirca1980,theMPPCConlycameintoeffectinDecember 1999;therefore,the
MilitaryPolicemembersthatyourefer toashavingdealt withthecaseback inthe1980s
arenot subjecttoMPPCCasit wasnot inforceat thattime, Notwithstanding, ourreview
foundnoindicationtosuggestthattheMilitaryPolicemembersduringthat period, were
awareof anyincidentsinvolvingyourself.
Inyour firstcomplaintregardingtheconduct of PettyOfficer 1sr ClassMorris, Master
CorporalsCryandHancock, all fromtheCanadianForcesNational InvestigationService
(CFNIS), it isallegedtheyhadimproperlyor poorlyconductedtheinvestigation. Our
reviewof GO2011-5754demonstratedthat everyknownpersoninvolvedhadbeen
interviewedbytheCFNISinvestigatorsanditwasdeterminedthat therewasnot
sufficientevidencetolaychargesinthismatter. Further, ourreviewwouldleada
reasonablepersontoconcludethattheCFNISanditsinvestigatorsactedwithinthescope
of their policingdutiesandfunctionspursuanttotheMPPTP, andthat nobreachof the
MPPCCoccurred.
PSismandatedonbehalf of theCanadianForcesProvostMarshal todetermineif the
subjectMilitaryPolicemembersactedprofessionallyandinaccordancewiththeMilitary
PoliceProfessional Codeof Conduct(MPPCC)andestablishedMilitaryPolicePolicies
andTechnical Procedures(MPPTP).
Thepurposeof thisletteristoadviseyouthataProfessional Standards(PS) reviewwith
regardtoyour twocomplaints, dated7Novemberand15December 2011respectively
hasnowbeencompleted.
Mr. Bees:
Mr. BobbieG, Bees
2120-20-2-3/2011-060(ReviewLtr Comp) (PS)
)6 J anuary2012
Grand Prevotdes Forces canadiennes et
Commandanl du Gpde la PMdes Forces canadiennes
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G.M. Sansterre
Lieutenant-Colonel
Deputy Commander
CanadianForces Military PoliceGroup
Yourstruly,
Itshouldbenotedthat if youarenot satisfiedwiththeresults of ow;reviewpertainingto
the2011CFNIS investigation, youmay request areviewof it by theChair, Military
PoliceComplaints Commission, 270Albert Street, loth Floor, Ottawa, OntarioKIP 5G8;
however, astheCommission wasalsostoodupin 1999, it doesnot havethemandateto
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c.c.: LCol Gilles Sansterre
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Sincerely,
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J ulianne C. Dunbar
General Counsel
Please be advised that pursuant to subsection 250.31(1) of theNational Defence Act, should
thecomplainant bedissatisfied with thedisposition of hisconduct complaint and exercise his
right to areview, theMilitary Police Complaints Commission will advise you accordingly and
send you arequest to obtain all information and materials relevant to thecomplaint.
In relation to the complainant's second complaint, thePS review found no indication to
suggest that theMilitary Police members were aware of any incidents involving Mr. Bees. Itis
also noted that theMPPCC only came in effect in December 1999, therefore, theMilitary
Police members that dealt with thecase back in the1980s arenot subject to the MPPCC.
It isnoted that in Mr. Bees' first complaint, theProfessional Standards (PS) review
determined that theconduct of Petty Officer 1st Class Morris, Master Corporals Cry and
Hancock, all fromthe Canadian Forces National Investigation Service (CFNIS), acted within
thescope of their policing duties and functions pursuant to theMilitary Police Policies and
Technical Procedures, and that no breach of theMilitary Police Professional Code of Conduct
(MPPCC) occurred. Itisalso noted that thereview of GO 2011-5754 demonstrated that every
known person involved had been interviewed by CFNIS investigators.
The following letter acknowledges receipt ofLCol Sansterre's correspondence dated J anuary
18, 2012, concerning theabove-referenced files.
Colonel Grubb:
MPCC2011045 and MPCC 2011054 (Bees)
21202023/2011060
Our File:
PS File:
Colonel T.D. Grubb
Canadian Forces Provost Marshal
National Defence Headquarters
2200 Walkley Road
Ottawa, Ontario KIA0K2
J anuary 24, 2012
Military Police
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I r evi ewed al l st eps of t hi s PS r evi ew and concur wi t h t he f i ndi ngs.
CONCLUDING REMARKS
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S. Morris
Petty Officer First Class
Case Manager
3. This investigation isconcluded. Your assistance in this matter isgreatly
appreciated. Should you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact the
Lead Investigator, MCpl Hancock (780) 973-4011 ex 5016.
2. This investigation supports the elements for an offence punishable under Section
156of the Criminal Code (1980).
1. Enclosed isthe Canadian Forces N ational Investigation Service Western Region
Detachment Regional Military Prosecution Brief concerning the investigation into the
allegation of Indecent Assault on a Male (Historical).
Reference: Crown Brief GO 2011-5754
REQUEST EOR LEGA L REVIEW
Regional Crown Prosecutor
Crown Prosecutor Clerks Office
Morinville, AB, T8R 1L3
October 2011
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Former CFNIS Investigator
Sergeant Christian CYR, Badge #5161
Canadian Forces Military Police Academy
Bldg 0-124 Coronel Rd
CFB Borden, ON, LOM1MO
(705) 4241200 ext 2803
Lead Investigator
Master Corporal Robert HANCOCK, Badge #5118
Canadian Forces National Investigation Service Western
Region (CFNIS WR), Bldg 304
POBox 10500, Edmonton, AB, T5J 4J 5
(780) 973-4011 ext 5016
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2. On 31Mar 11, MCpl HANCOCK (CFNIS Investigator) conducted an interview with
MrBEES. During this interview, Mr BEES statedthat hehadbeen sexually abused
approximately 10times by anolder teenage boy, whomhad
been hired as ababysitter by his (Mr BEES') father after his grandmother was no longer
Q.~'le towatch themdueto personal reasons. Mr BEES further indicated that his younger
brother, 1 - had his genitals touched on oneoccasion by"
whilesitting on acouch. The first incidents started with touching Mr
BEES' penis andeventually on other occasions placing Mr BEES' penis in his (
-- "- - -- - - _. LOUth.Mr BEES never told ~ to stop, nor did heever
tell his father as1 hadthreatened Mr BEES. tellinz himthat hewould
kill himif heever told anyone. On afewother occasions, "would insert
1. On 5Mar 11, MrBobbie BEES contacted theEdmonton Police Service, viatheir
corporatewebsite, reporting he was aresident at CFB Edmonton in thelate 1970s/early
1980s andduring that time hewas sexually abused by amalebabysitter who was alsothe
dependent of aCF member. MrBEES wished toreport thematter totheEdmonton
PoliceService andstated that theCanadian Forces wasunwilling topursue thematter as
it was acivilian matter. No indication was given as towho advised MrBEES that this
was acivilian matter, however, dueto CFNIS mandate, CFNIS WR assumed
responsibility for this investigation andcontact was made withMrBEES in order to
conduct avictiminterview withhim.
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Sec 156(1980).
TheCFNIS WR investigation into theallegation determined that MrBEES alleges"
mmitted multiple acts of an Indecent Assault on aMale contrary to CC
On 5Mar 11, MrBEES contacted theEdmonton Police Service, viatheir corporate
website, reporting he was aresident at CFB Edmonton in thelate 1970slearly 1980s and
duringthat timehewas sexually abused by amale babysitter who was also thedependent
of aCanadian Forces (CF) member. Hewas later interviewed by CFNIS investigators and
alleged_ sexually assaulted himandhis brother, - -
when they were youths at CFB Edmonton.
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5. On9Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK contacted I, nowresiding in
. f, andrequested aninterview withhimregarding this investigation. - -
tatedhewouldn't beparticipating inaninterview withinvestigators.
When asked if hewould bewilling to meet tospeak about anallegation brought against
himhesaid 'no'. Hefurther indicated that anything hehadbeen involved in asayouth
had'already beenhandled by themilitary'. Hestated if charges weretobebrought against
him, 'alawyer wouldbe handling that'.
4. On 28J un 11, Sgt CYR conducted aphone interview with 1 ; sister,
r ~. Sheinformed her brother hadbeen sexually assaulted by acatholic
priest, _ J while residing at CFB Edmonton inthe 1980's.
nasbeen mentally illsincethat timeandthesexual abusehas caused him
many psychological problems sincehis childhood. Shestated shehas never witnessed (or
walked-in on) her brother sexually assaulting another male at anytime. Shedidn't
remember a (now Mr BEES). In 1979, sheleft Edmonton with her family to
Petawawa, ON, and didnot return to Edmonton, AB, until 1986.
3. On9J un 11, Sgt CYR (CFNIS Investigator) conducted aninterview with Mr BEES'
father, j - - --- - . Heconfirmed that hewas intheCF andposted toEdmonton,
AB, in 1978. Hefurther statedhehasn't spoken to Mr BEES sinceaphone conversation
they had years agowhen Mr BEES toldhimthat hehadbeen sexually assaulted by
vhile residing onbase inthelate 1970s. He also statedhehas never heard
of ar andthat it was thefirst timehehad heard of his sonbeing
sexually assaulted. Hecouldn't remember hiring ababysitter after his mother could no
longer watch his boys, but afemale neighbour that resided across thestreet fromthem
would keep aneyeon theboys. .__-' stated that hedid not remember thenameof
thelady or her husband fromacross thestreet.
one or two of his fingers into Mr BEES' rectum. While talking abathononeoccasion. he
made Mr BEES strokehis erect penis. Thelast timeheremembered J
sexually abusing himwas whenthey werein bedroom andhewas
attempting to insert his penis inMr BEES' rectum, but was unsuccessful as Mr BEES was
yelling for f to stop asit was hurting, andduetotheyelling Mr
ssister cameinto thebedroomafter hearing some yelling andobserved
what was happening. Mr BEES indicated that was thelast encounter with
, --eremembers .'shouse exploding fromagas leak after
thelast encounter andhenever saw' again.
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7. On 1Sep 11, MCpl HANCOCK obtained the 1980FireStatistics fromtheCF Fire
Marshall's Office indicating ahouse fireoccurred at Private Married Quarter 26inJ un
1980, which may havebeen thegas fire/explosion MrBEES and remembered
happening at the residence. A search at Library andArchives Canadato
locate thepaper copy of theoriginal firereport iscurrently being conducted.
6. On 10Aug 11, MCpl HANCOCK conducted an interview with MrBEES' brother:
Hestated when hewas about 6years old heremembered having asexual
interaction with ababysitter that lived across thestreet fromhim. Hewas living inthe
Namao community onCFB Edmonton at thetime. Herecalled thebabysitter's name
being) ~,who hebelieves was ateenager at thetime. Hecould only
recall one specific incident, inwhich) told 1 0masturbate
his erect penis. 1 ,also remembered masturbating:
nitcouldn't recall ifhe was erect. . J informed this happened onthe
living roomcouch of his residence. Hecouldn't remember anybody elsebeing there but
assumed his brother I ,\1r BEES) must havebeen around. Heinformed itmay
havehappened more then oncebut could only recall theone incident.
never spoken toMrBEES about touching himsexually ashethought
hewas theonly oneit happened to. He couldn't provide adescription on
but remembered I\- lived inahouseacross thestreet. He
informed 1 lived inaduplex that had agas firecausing all thewindows
to beboarded up. After thehouse fire, henever saw; again.
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Theinvestigation seemedtobeheading intheright directionuptoMay 3rd, 2011whenI
returned avoicemail request byMcpl ChristianCyr for metotelephonehimassoonaspossible. Itwas
inthis phonecall that I first learnt about a'priest molestingchildren' onCanadianForcesBaseNamao
in 1980. I wasn't givenanyfurther information by Mr. Cyr, thankfully wedoliveintheageof Google.
OnMarch5th, 2011I sent anemail messageto theEdmontonPoliceService(EPS) statingthat I
wouldliketo layacomplaint of sexual abuseagainst L', a personwhohadactedasa
babysitter for my brother andI whilemy father was stationedonCanadianForces BaseNamaofrom
1978until thesummer of 1980. TheEPS forwarded my complaint to CanadianForcesNational
Investigation ServicewhichasI'vesincelearnt, carneintoexistencein 1996.
Master SeamanFredrick Dumas wasthefirst persontocontact me. Thisledto avideo tapedinterview
whichwasconductedby Mcpl Robert Hancock. Theinterviewtook placeat theVancouverPolice
Department headquarters onMarch3Pt, 2011at 18:30. I haveaskedfor acopy of this videorecorded
statement andthisrequest hasnot yet been compliedwith.
-A brief background-
I wishto bringto your attentionmy concerns about arecent investigation conductedby
CanadianForcesNational Investigation ServiceWesternRegionaswell asmy concerns about a
previous investigationconducted inthelatespringof 1980whichledto theJ uly 1980courtmartial and
subsequent convictionof
Dear Chairman Stannard,
Re: MPCC-2011-045 (Bees)
***ORIGINAL BY REGISTiIrnD MA][L***
Glenn Stannard
Chair
Military Police Complaint Commission
270 Albert Street, 10th Floor
Ottawa, Ontario
KIP 5G8
Bobbie Gamet Bees
J anuary 2]1h,2011
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Intheoriginal interviewthat I gaveback onMarch 31st, 2011. I namedmyself andmybrother
asvictims. I namedmyfather asareluctant witness. I namedonemilitary dependant,
asapossiblewitness tothecrowdthat hadgatheredonthe . 1lawnthat day. I thenalsonamed
______ --T andhissister. Mr. Sansterreclaims inhis letter dated J anuary 18th , 2012 that every
'known' personhadbeen interviewed. Thereisnopossibleway inwhichI couldknowthenamesof the
friends of 3 sister. Thereisalsonoway that I canknowthenames of theother four
children that j _' was babysitting. Threeboys andonegirl, ifI remember correct. ButI do
remember four other kids for sure. HowI canbeexpectedtoknowthenameof' 'ssister
is beyondme. I wasn't her friend, shewasn't eveninmy agegroup.
So, if I may ask of theChair, howdoesanineyear oldboy become
t ifhe hasn't been sexually abused.
All theseyears I hadlivedwiththememory of my father tellingmethat I wastakenoutof
Major-General Griesbach School andplacedintotheWestfieldProgrambecauseI was attractedto
other boys. Now, courtesy of thereports I gainedunder theFOI inJ uneof 2011, I nowknowI wasin
theprogrambecauseI was{
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wereother cluesthat areinthereports that I will leaveout. But sufficeto say, they all adduptoa
'sexually abusedchild'.
I only foundout about CaptainTerryTotzkeinJ uneof 2011after havingfiled aFreedomof
Information request withtheAlberta Government. Theschool principal, . andbothof our
teachers atMajor-General Griesbach School wereextremely concernedabout thebehaviour of my
brother andI. CaptainTerryTotzkearrangedtohaveussent for psychological testing. I onlyhave
access to myfiles, but after having apsychologist hereinVancouverreviewthefiles, it isevidentthat
I was sufferingthefallout fromchildsexual abuse. As my father haddrilledintomy headthat what
happened onCanadianForcesBaseNamao wasmy fault andthat I wastoblamefor my brother being
molested, I never saidaword.
investigation intomy complaint against thebabysitter went sideways. Fromthenews articlesgathered
ononewebsiteI wasableto piecetogether that _ .ebabysitter whohadbeenmolesting
my brother andI alongwithat least four other children hadpressedchargedagainst Andgoing
bythetimelinepresentedinthenewspaper articles, . nlypressed chargesAFTERhe
hadbeencaught by hissister buggering meinhisbedroom. Pleaseseeattachednews clippings.
. 'ssister must havetelephonedher friends aswithinashort periodof time, therewere
about 10 to 12 kidsassembled onthefront lawnof the 1Q. Oneof themthrewasmall
stoneupat window. At thetimewewerecaught bedroombyhis sister I was 8years
oldandI __ _ Iwouldhavebeen 15years old. Thereexistsamassivedifferencesexually,
physically andmentally betweenan8year oldanda15 year old.
Sometimelater, beforethesummer, the :>MQwasdestroyedby fireandshortly
thereafter myfamily wasmoved fromCanadianForcesBaseNamaoto CanadianForces Base
Griesbach.
After arrivingat CanadianForces BaseGriesbach inthesummer of 1980 bothmy brother andI
werebrought to theattentionof Military social worker CaptainTerryTotzke.
~.Andthis iswhenthe This turned out to be the COUli Martial of r
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My father was so convinced that if I just stopped being attracted to other boys, that I'd be
normal. I guess that's what it really was all about with my father. He's got such ahomophobic fear of
gays that he must have seen what . had done to me as being 'gay' and that because I
didn't 'fight back', that I must have wanted it. Therefore I too was gay. Actually, I am, but it had
absolutely nothing to do with what 1 1had been doing to me. Although to be honest this
I was very hesitant to use my father as awitness. He always has blamed me for what happened
to Six years later in 1986, when we were living on Canadian Forces Base Downsview, my father
laid abeating on me after had stolen our stepmother's car and took it on ajoyride with his friends.
My father blamed me for ; actions. And one of the things he made clear to me at that time was my
brother was turning out the way he was because of what I let that 'asshole babysitter' on Canadian
Forces Base Namao do to him. So much for my father claiming to not know what 1_. . had
done. In 2006, the last time I ever talked to my father, I drilled him about 1 _ r, He finally
relented, conditionally that is. He blamed his own mother, my grandmother, for hiring J
He would only admit that he paid 1afew times when my grandmother wasn't able to pay
him. My father wasn't living on-base with us. He was living off-base with his girlfriend. Maybe he was
always ashamed with himself for not being at home where he should have been. Maybe that's why my
father has never admitted to knowing what had happened on Canadian Forces Base Namao.
That probably explains why Alberta Child and Family Services were so concerned with his lack
of involvement in the therapy required for both my brother and I that Alberta Child and Family services
had started to initiate 'apprehension' to place both my brother and I into foster care sothat we could
receive proper emotional and psychological care.
Somehow, my father found out about the impending apprehension and arranged for aposting to
CFB Downsview in Ontario. This took the Alberta Child and Family Services by complete surprise.
According to the Alberta Child and Family Services report, my father along with Captain Terry Totzke
assured Alberta Child and Family Services that my brother and I would be set up with proper
psychological care upon our arrival inToronto at Canadian Forces Base Downsview.
Wenever did receive the counselling when we arrived at Canadian Forces Base Downsview.
The Children's Aid Society of Toronto report speaks to this.
Why?
-My father-
What happened on Canadian Forces Base Namao after I had been caught being buggered by
. as completely appalling. Ihad always remembered never being allowed to play
hockey or go swimming anymore. The report fromAlberta Child and Family Services mentions this.
When asked what activities his children are involved in my father replies" They used to be inhockey,
bowling, beavers, swimming". The counsellor then asks why we aren't in those activities anymore. My
father replies that we didn't seemto be getting any benefit from them.
No. It wasn't that we weren't getting any benefit. The other parents on base wouldn't allow my brother
and I anywhere near their kids. As one mother said to me, I was' ". And this IS the
reason why we were moved from Canadian Forces Base Namao down the highway to Canadian Forces
Base Griesbach.
I was only 6 years old when we arrived on Canadian Forces Base Namao inthe summer of 1978 and 8
when lS caught by his sister buggering me inhis bedroom. Fromjust after the time I turned 7 in
the fall of 1977 until the spring of 1980 Ihad to endure the abuse (
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Chairman Stannard, the events that occurred on Canadian Forces Base Namao which ended in
the spring of 1980 with _=:: __ . . s sister catching himin the act of buggering me has caused
irreparable pain for those involved. I . {asallowed to play the innocent victim, which in
all actuality, is the worst thing that I have leamt about this event. I really wish that master Corporal
Christian Cyr had not told me about the priest being charged with molesting children on Canadian
Forces Base Namao. Being blamed my entire youth for what had happened to my younger brother was
not fair and was completely undeserved. Having to endure the emotional turmoil that was given to me
by "I and documented by Military Social Worker Captain Terry Totzke and theAlberta
Child and Family Services was so completely uncalled for. But what is even more humiliating is
coming to the realization that The Canadian Armed Forces is more than satisfied to let sleeping dogs lie
so that it as an organization does not have to own up to thepart it played inthe destruction of so many
lives back in 1978 to 1980. Yes, the Canadian Aimed Forces did not order . 1to assault the
children in his care, but the Canadian Armed Forces DID fail to care for the children to the extent that
the Canadian Armed Forces feigned ignorance of the events leading up to making his
claim against ,-
The most ilIDOCUOUS explanation would be that possibly the military police at the time greatly
underestimated the effect of child sexual abuse. After all, the Military Police are trained to deal with the
Code of Service Discipline, not emotional counselling involving civilian children. And that's what base
brats are. We're civilians. Wearenot military personnel.
Were the R.C.M.P. at the time not notified as the Military Police did not want tojeopardize their
case against L.r----- --'0-- .~_ It wouldn't be alarge stretch of the imagination to seethis
as apossibility. IJ .IS defence counsel had been aware of _ fondness for younger
children, which is awell known and well documented side effect of child sexual abuse, would they
have been able to paint . such an unflattering light that aconviction of,
- - - ;would bemade that much more difficult?
Canadian Forces National Investigation Service was created in 1996 for aspecific reason. That
was in order to remove the Military Police out from under the local chain of command. Was this the
issue at play? After all, this is was awell known phenomenon at the time. Was J father
of sufficient rank that he was able to interfere with the Military Police investigation in 1980. Washe
able to convince the investigating officers of the Military Police in 1980 to not notify the R.C.M.P. to
investigate the 'civilian on civilian' sexual abuse that the military police at the time would have had
absolutely no jurisdiction over? No enlisted man would be permitted to disobey an order from asenior
NCO, correct?
Ido firmly believe that aconflict of interest is created by allowing Canadian Forces National
Investigation Service to conduct the investigation into my allegations against .n.In 1980
an error of sorts was made. With all of the witnesses to what had transpired in ~ )MQ
that day and with the speed in which word spread around base, which was evident by the way my
brother an I were ostracized, I find it very hard to believe that the Military Police at the time had no
idea of what I 1had done.
did cause me great grief and confusion during my teen years when for awhile I did actually believe
that . f abusing me had made me homosexual. Too bad I wasted so many of my teens
years struggling with this issue instead of living my life.
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So even though the military and CFNIS are well aware that I DO NOT want to sue anyone for
anything over this case. The military lawyers will more than likely have pointed out to CFNIS that my
wants and desires ARE NOT BINDING on the other possible plaintiffs who were victims of
Chairman Stannard, the issue of conflict of interest is of great concern to me. As :.,
sued the Minister of National Defence et. al. in J une 2001 in the Edmonton Court of Queen's Bench in
amulti-million dollar lawsuit, which is now sealed, one should rightfully question if the Canadian
Armed Forces and the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service arethe appropriate agencies to
investigate allegations that may turn around and put the Minister of National Defence at risk for further
legal penalties. This alone causes me to have serious doubts as to the effort that the Canadian Forces
National Investigation Service applied to this case. I would hazard aguess that CFNIS had agood sit
down with military lawyers.
IfCFNIS finds that ~ lid in fact molest my brother, myself andthe four other children,
then this presents aproblem for the military. The military lawyers would have pointed out quite rightly
that even if CFNIS discovered that _ had molested us AND themilitary was completely
and honestly unaware of the true situation back in 1980, the Minister of National Defence would still
be at risk for alawsuit. How? J ust as I . sued the Minister of National Defence in 2001 by
holding theMinister responsible by way of having as an employee, the
military dependants who were abused by - could sue the Minister as well by claiming
that the Canadian AImed Forces were ultimately responsible for the molestation that I
was inflicting on the children he was babysitting as he himself was suffering the effects of child sexual
abuse inflicted upon him by
)n November 271h, 2011 at
xccording to J
.stigation in 1980.
Iwas given the name and phone number for . _.
17:23I had arather engaging 16minute phone call with 1
'_-"~'"'z:,''-'''..ewas the lead investigator inthe
Very interesting what he said about and (
Chairman Stannard, I amalso asking you to look into what would berequired to have the
original 1980 investigation examined. I don't believe that less than fourteen days, when the Christmas
holidays are taken into consideration, is an appropriate amount of time to properly evaluate a32year
old case. Especially acase which may put the military at conflict of interest for investigating itself.
Please seethe attached confirmation letter in which Mr. Sansterre acknowledge the receipt of my
complaint letter on December 22nd, 2011. On J anuary 18th 2012 Mr. Sansterre writes aletter to me with
his findings. How much effort can Mr.Sansterre have actually put into looking into the investigation of
1980 when he takes great effort to explain that the Military Police members involved in the 1980
investigation are not subject to the MPPCC as the MPPCC came into effectin 1998.
Chairman Stannard, I amrequesting areview of the most recent investigation into the
allegations I have made against I _ or the assaults that he committed on my brother and
myself inthe years of 1978 until 1980. This review must endeavour to contact the ten to twelve
adolescents that ssister had called after she walked into .droom that day. This
review must also strive to track down any child that may have been placed into the care of
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To that extent, it should beobvious by now that I amnot going to give up on this. Please, let me remind
you once again Chairman Stannard just exactly how much I suffered at the hands of my father. Funny
isn't it. The person who was supposed to have protected me and should have helped me through those
hard times back then instead disowned me at the age of 8and there after treated me like rubbish. This
explains why Alberta Child and Family Services were greatly concerned about my father's lack of
interest or participation in the family counselling. He didn't care. Why? His son, me, was a"Faggot for
touching other boys". I had brought shame upon himby getting myself molested by
The funny thing is, I don't even want money as I have said before. I even believe that I told Mr.
Hancock as much. I wasn't after money or jail time from __ .. . I just wanted an apology.
That's all I wanted. I just want to live out the balance of my life knowing that I wasn't responsible for
what happened to my brother. After having started this case last year and after having obtained my
social services records fromAlberta Child and Family Services and the Children's Aid Society of
Toronto I want to finally be able to read through all 215 pages of my Alberta Child and Family Services
report and know that I didn't suffer through those years for nothing. But the sad thing is, it looks as if
the Canadian Armed Forces is willing to engage me in battle because they are obviously terrified of the
prospect of alawsuit or lawsuits. After all, I can only speak for myself when I say that I only want an
apology. I obviously can't speak for my brother or the other children that was
babysitting. But for myself, I just want an apology. An apology from the Canadian Armed Forces AND
an apology from
Chairman Stannard, you may bewondering why I amso determined to follow through with this. The
events that occurred between 1978 and 1980 caused me pain, but not so much pain that I shouldn't have
been able to recover had I received counselling as was required. I said to afriend of mine back around
2003 when I told him about what had happened on CFB Namao during adinner discussion. I told him
that I was far more upset with the way in which the other families on the base ostracized me and
shunned me. The sexual abuse I could handle. Itwasn't anything horrific, Itwasn't pleasant, but not
horrific. He didn't cause mephysical damage nor did he give me an STD. Not being allowed to go
skating, or swimming or bowling or even just being able to play with my friends. That's what hurt the
most. Having my father blame me for what happened to my brother was just wrong.
Chairman Stannard, my final concern is one of jurisdiction. I amnot amilitary member nor have I ever
been amember of the military. - ~ '" -,snot amember of the military at the time he was
sexually assaulting me and my brother. The three of us were and are civilians. Military Dependants are
NOT subject to investigation and prosecution under the National Defence Act unless we have
accompanied our serving parent to aforeigri posting. In all cases of 'civilian on civilian' crimes,
military dependants residing on Canadian Armed Forces bases anywhere in Canada are subject to
investigation and prosecution by the local civilian authorities having jurisdiction. This did not occur in
the original investigation in 1980. And this should have happened with my 2011 complaint against
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NewsArticles from1980and2001.
Note fromMay 3rd, 2011
enclosed:
BobbieGamet Bees
YoursTruly
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Chairman Stannard, I look forward to your response.
Commissiond'exarnendes plaintes
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I nthis FOI package was arecord createdby Corporal SDFrench. I nthisrecord isastatement
fromCpl SDFrenchthat" Hart saidthefileinunlikely togoanywheredueto alack of evidence".
Excuseme? Atjust under threemonths sincethestart of theinvestigation, withtentotwelvewitnesses
that been calledby _ l'S sister toattendtotheir front lawnto seewhat shehad caughther
brother doing andwiththepossibility of four other victims inadditionto myself andmy brother
, W/OHart hasalready decidedthat" thefileinunlikelyto goanywheredueto alack of evidence".
I sthis what it was? Or shouldthis bereadas, "this fileduetothepossibility of further lawsuitsagainst
theCrownhas beenpredetermined to begoingnowhere"?
Theresults of theFOI oddly hadnothingto dowiththeoriginal investigation frombackill
1980. Theresults of theFOI wereactually relatedto atelephonecall that I hadplacedto theRCMP
Morinville Detachment onorjust prior toJ uly 29th, 2011.
OnFebruary 22nd, 2012I received viaregular mail, theresultsof a"FreedomofI nformation
Request" fromtheRoyal CanadianMountedPolice. Thisrequest wasfiledon2011-12-12. ThisFOI
had to dowithmerequesting informationfromtheRCMP toseeif therehadbeenanynotificationof
theRCMP by theMilitary Policeintothedoingsof . theyear of 1980.
Re: MPCC-2011-04S(Bees)
***ORI GI NAL BY REGKS1rEREDMAKL ***
Glenn Stannard
Chair
Military PoliceComplaint Commission
270Albert Street, 10th Floor
Ottawa, Ontario
KI P 5G8
BobbieGamet Bees
February 23rd, 2011
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cc: Colonel Tim. D. Grubb, CanadianForces Provost Marshal
copy of results ofFOI request filedwiththeRCMP.RCMP file#P-2012-00102
enclosed:
BobbieGarnet Bees
Chairman Stannard, I look forwardto your response.
Inlight of the misinformation that hasbeen disseminatedbymembers of CFNISaswell asthe
conclusionthat wasprematurely reachedbyW/0Blair Hart prior totheinvolvement of theAlberta
CrownProsecutors Office, I nowandwithgoodreason, call intoquestionwhether or nottherereally
was any effort ever exerted bymembers of CFNIS to bring ,.__. :0justice or if thiswasall a
'dogandpony show' created to portraytheillusionof justice.
In the report from Cpl SD French, he has 'confirmed' with CFNIS that Bees', as of J uly 28t\
2011, "has hadanactivecasewiththeMPs for thelast six months". I first contactedtheEdmonton
PoliceServiceonMarch 5th, 2011. I wasfirst contacted byMcpl Fredrick Dumas of CFNISonMarch
7th, 2011. I gavemy video tapedstatement toMcpl Robert Hancock onMarch 31", 2011. Thereare
onlythreemonths between March31st, 2011andJ uly 28th, 2011. Whywas Corporal SDFrenchtoldsix
months?
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Atthetime, in 1980, themilitary policeonCanadianForcesBaseNamao wouldhavebeen
required inboththe -' ssueandthe. issuetohandoverthe
investigations andprosecutions totheoutsidecivilianauthoritieshavingjurisdiction, just astheywere
required todointhecaseagainst. _ for thechokingandrapeof a16year oldgirl on
CFB Edmontonwhichoccurred inJ uneof 1980.
I havebeenincontact withtwo lawyerswhowerepractising lawyersfor themilitarywhilethey
wereservingwiththeforces andnowtypically represent clientsdealingwiththemilitary. Bothof them
arecompletely confusedasto howthemilitary iseven involvedinthismatter. . \wasnot
inthemilitary nor washeaciviliancontractor hiredbythemilitary whenhewas himself molesting
younger childrenonCanadianForcesBaseNamao. .;s andalwayswill beacivilian.
TheMilitary Policeasdirected by theNational DefenceAct may onlyinvestigateandprosecute
persons whoaresubject to theCodeof ServiceDiscipline. TheMilitary Policecannot bring'.
1beforeamilitary tribunal nor canthey court martial,
I thank youfor thetimeyouhavespentto datelookingintomy complaint againsttheCanadian
Forces National Investigation Service. However, I doneedtomoveonwithmy life. It hasbecome
abundantly clear that theCanadianArmedForces has absolutely nointerest or desiretoundertakeany
actionwhichmay bringto light andopenuptopublic scrutiny eventswhich occurredonCanadian
Forces BaseNamao duringtheyears of 1978until 1980.
Dear ChairmanStannard,
***ORIGINAJ L BY REGISTERED MAIL***
Glenn Stannard
Chair
Military PoliceComplaint Commission
270Albert Street, io- Floor
Ottawa, Ontario
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RCMP Public complaints commission.
Colonel Tim. D. Grubb, CanadianForcesProvost Marshal
copy of Xtranews articlewithquotesfromDepartment of Defence.
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Sadly, themilitary policedidinvolvethemselves inthismatter. Also, bywilfully supplying
misinformation toamember of theRoyal CanadianMounted Police, CFNI Sthwarted my attemptto
havethecivilian authority havingjurisdiction for civilianmattersonCanadianForcesBaseNamaotake
proper chargeof thiscase. By doingsothemembersof CFNI Smay havedoneirreparabledamageto
my endeavour tosee -. rought tojustice.
http://laws.justice.gc.caleng/actslN-5/
The recent case against ~ _ peaks to this issue. (please seethe
enclosed news article). What is slightly different between my case and thecase against _
_ smy complaint was against another military dependant not against amember or
former member of the Canadian Armed Forces. None the less, the military police could not involve
themselves in the case against I ~ tasthesexual assaultstook placebefore
themilitary policeweregiventheresponsibility of investigating sexual assaultsviaachangetosection
70of theNational DefenceAct in 1 998. Itmust beremembered that themilitarypolicewereonly
giventheresponsibility of investigatingcomplaints of sexual assault madeagainstpersons whoare
subject tothe Codeof ServiceDisciplineasprescribed bytheNational DefenceAct.
Nothing intheNational DefenceAct givesthemilitary policeeventheslightestreason tobeinvolved
intheinvestigation of my complaintsagainst J
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In 1980Section 70of theNational DefenceAct listedcrimesthat themilitary policecouldnot
investigate. Crimes of Sexual Assault wereoneof thecrimesthat hadbeenspecifically exemptedfrom
themilitaryjustice system. However, therewas absolutely noway, especiallyright ontheheelsof the
sexual assault of agirl onCFBEdmonton by _ , ._----J -----0' that theDepartment of National
Defencewas goingto allow _ ~ :0 betriedinciviliancourt.
vasprosecuted andtriedinthecivilianjustice systemasthemilitarycouldn't deal withcrime c
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sexual assault in 1980. .?
No, it'snot that therewasalack of evidence.
I would really liketohear your explanation astohowWarrantOfficerBlair Halt canbe
justified inuttering falsehoods toamember of theRoyal CanadianMountedPolice. A crimethat
occurred 32years ago. A crimethat was witnessedby 10to 12witnesses. A crimethat hadfivemore
victims inaddition to me. Andyet, by thethreemonthmark WarrantOfficer Blair Hart hasalready
cometotheconclusion that "thefileisunlikely togoanywhereduetoalack of evidence".
Words cannot adequatelyconvey thedisgust that I feel towardstheDepartment of National
Defence andTheCanadianForcesNational Investigation Service.
*-k*ORIGINAlLBY REGISTIERED MAIL***
GlennStannard
Chair
Military Police Complaint Commission
270Albert Street, 10lh Floor
Ottawa, Ontario
KIP 5G8
Bobbie Gamet Bees
March 24t\ 2012
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Tofurther complicatematters, TheMinister of National Defenceisfull well awareof the
multimillion dollar lawsuit that ,.. hadinitiated against saidMinister inMay of2001 inthe
Edmonton Court of QueensBench. Asthislawsuit is sealedby court order itwouldbesafetosaythat
vassuccessful inhis endeavour. I thereforedonot finditimpossibletobelievethat the
Minister of National Defencewouldhavehadsomesay intheoutcomeof thisinvestigation.
Which brings ustoback to my current complaint against My casehadbeen
predetermined bytheDepartment of National Defenceto deadend. AsI saidpreviously, atthethree
monthmark Warrant Officer Blair Hart utteredtoamember of theRCMPhis 'opinion' that "thefileis
unlikely to go anywheredueto alack of evidence". Therenever wasanydesiretobringmycaseto
successful fruition asthat would exposewhat theCanadianAImedForceshaddonein 1980.Or more
specifically, what theCanadianArmedForceshadbeennegligent of not doing. Bytrying toburythe
crimes whichhad occurredin 1980theCanadianArmedForces &theDepartment of National Defence
didcausethevictims of _..__ --r 1toenduredocumentedpsychological trauma. Traumathat as
documented couldonly bepossible dueto childhoodsexual abuse.
1. Military Officer had been molesting military dependant
for over two years
2. A.1 hadbeenbabysittingandusingtheopportunities providedby saidbabysitting
to molest military dependants betweentheagesof 4to 8inthesametimeperiod
3. hadbeentakingthechildrenhewasmolestingover tobemolested bymilitary
officer A
4. Military Officer _ ~ hadbeenadministeringadisguised alcoholic
beverage(sacramental winewith sugar added) to cloudthememories of hisprepubescent
victims.
The military had full understanding that if the public became aware of the following statements,
the image of the Canadian Armed Forces would have become severely tarnished in the eyes of the
public.
. ~ was illegally dealt with in amilitary court martial. This court
martial was convened and held behind closed doors 'in camera' for one reason and one reason only.
This was done to avoid causing further harm to the reputation of the Canadian Armed Forces andthe
Department of National Defence. All good intentions aside, the military grossly overstepped it's bounds
and authority.
How the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service can claim they have jurisdiction inthis
matter when they legally didn't have the power to investigate or prosecute sexual assaults in 1980is
puzzling. How CFNIS can claim they have the authority to investigate this case when neither the
complainant nor accused nor the other victims or witnesses currently live on amilitary reserve is
puzzling as well
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cc: RCMP Public complaints commission.
Colonel Tim. D. Grubb, CanadianForces Provost Marshal
copy ofFOI statement fromtheRCMP
copy of newspaper articles from1980s
enclosed:
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Another issue that may be preventing me from obtaining justice in this matter is the subsequent
molestation of two young boys in 1989 by former Military Officer' ~ By
conducting acourt martialin camera', the Canadian Armed Forces / Department of National Defence
may have unwittingly subjected two adolescent boys in Scarborough Ontario to sexual assault by
Former Military Officer _ ould former Military Officer
_ ave been able to gain employment working with children had he received acivilian
trial inwhich his exploits on Canadian Forces Base Namao would be made public?
By re-opening the events that transpired on Canadian Forces Base Namao in 1980 to public
scrutiny, would the Canadian Armed Forces &theDepartment of National Defencebeatrisk for
lawsuits fromthepersons whowerechildren being sexually abusedbyformer Military Office:
Here,youwant toknowjust howmuch myfather despisedmeoverthewholeissue ofgettingcaught
with penis upmyass?
But healsoknewthat this reflectedverybadupon him. Here'shis oldest son, his first bornson, taking
ituptheass. Sowhat if I wasonly8.
That didn't matter.
It couldn't matter.
It HADtobemyfault asthat's theonlywaymyfather coldshedhisresponsibility. Asthecounsellorsall
saidabout him, hehadissues withtakingresponsibility.
Whyshouldhebeblamedfor .__.ndI beingmolested?
Blameme. It'smyfault.
Andat thesametime, ifyou'reblaming someonefor somethingbeyondtheir control, whynot goastep
further andsimultaneously feignignorance oftheissue.
So, what doesthis havetodowithwhat heremembers from1978until 1980.
Alot.
Thenumber onethemethat isrepeated overandoveragaininthepaperwork fromAlbertaChildand
FamilyServicesandtheChildren's AidSocietyofTorontoisthat hewasaperson that' hadgreat
difficultytakingresponsibility for his concerns. Hewouldoftenlet others takecareofhis
responsibilities. Wasthat aresult of Oct23rd, 1969andhissubsequent drinking?
Whoknowsandwhocares.
Sowhen1980rollsaround andI'mcaught inabadsituation in iedroombyhissister
andwordspreads around base, myfather surely foundout.
Hewouldhave, there's nowayhecouldn't have.
Hewouldblamemeforlettingthebabysitter touch mybrother, andwhat I wasdoingwiththebabysitter
wasmyowndamn fault.
Sohefuckingknew.
Andwithhissudden andabrupt changeinattitude towardsme, heknew.
Well,toexpandonmyfather alittlebit fromyesterday, not that itobviously matters verymuchat this
point.
Duringtheyears of 1978until thesummer of 1980, myfather typicallylivedoffbaseandwasrarely
home. Hencewhyhismother, our grandmother, _ waslivingwithus.
Thefirst womanhewaslivingwithwhenwegottoEdmontonwasawomannamed whohada
housein (southofthecityof Edmonton). Thereweremaybeoneor twomore. Hefinallymet
.ornetimearound mid 1979. Hewouldoftengostay at theapartment sheshared witharoommate
out by_ . Hewouldoftenonlycomehometodropoffhislaundry and thenpickitup
whenhismother haddoneit.
Herarthritis wasoftenbadsoitwas actually meironinghisuniforms.
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I havebeendoinglots ofreading asyouwouldimagineinthefieldof
human sexuality. Anditisgenerallyacceptedthat bythetimeachild
isbetweentheagesof sixtoeight, youcandeterminerather reliably
'what thesexual orientation of that childwill be.
So.... it'sfairlyobviouswhat path I endedupgoingdown... andinthe
springof 1980it must havedrivenhimcompletelyaround thefucking
bendknowingthat his sonwasgoingtobe'lightintheloafers' andwas
just caught takingit uptheass.
Soyeah, eventhough 'nothing' happened in1980, myfather sureisholdingthis 'nothing' against me.
Myfather wouldnever let menear anyofhiscars. WhenI gotmydriver'Slicenceitwasmyemployer
whoarrangedforeverything. SoI never actually ever diddriveanyof hisvehicle. Nordidr ever get
caught stealinghis vehicle, unlikeacertain sibling.
WhenI rodemymotorcycleupto in2003toseemyfather, I actually spent moretimewithmy
stepmother asnosurprise myfather hadnotimeforme.
ButI didmanagetoask himwhat happened tohisprideandjoy 1983MustangQT.Hegaveit tothecar
thief. Myjawdropped.
I askedifhewasstill drivingit.
Nope.
Whathappened?
Oh, therewassomeblack iceononeofthetrafficcirclesandthecar just simplyslidofftheroadand
wrappeditself around autility pole.
(Ifyoubelievethat, I'vegotsomeswamplandtosell you) SoI asked what he's drivingnow.
Oh, hegavehim 1989Thunderbird SHOo
Andjust liketheMustang, it toohadanaccident, but ofcourseitwasn't hisfault.
Me,I haven't ridden or drivensince2004. Actuallycars I haven't drivensincearound 1998andeven
thenI didn't driveveryoften.
I havemyfather's anger and temper soI stay awayfromcars.
Motorcyclesweremoreor lessokaybecauseI didn't havetodrivethemintraffic,just out onthe
highwayforrelaxingrides. But 3accidents wheretheother driver was 100%at fault convincedmeto
put thesidestand downforgood.
didtome, because Andthat's thewayit's alwaysbeen. Until thedayI dieI havetowear what
I made \ doit tomybrother.
I joined #17thR.C.S.C.C. OntariowhenI was 14. Intwoyears I madeituptotherank ofP03. The
promotionwasdelayedabit toallowmetoattend basic training inKingston. Kindahardforacadet to
takebasic trainingwhenheoutranks hisinstructors. Twoyears inarowI wontheawards for'Cadet
withbest attendance', 'Best dressed cadet', and'Best overall cadet'.
Nowbear inmindthat tothis point myfather has never onceattended anyoftheparade nights.
So, it'sapproaching towards theendof summer trainingcamp. All ofthecadets aresupposed tocall
homeandmakearrangements fortheir parents toattend graduation. Thiswaytheplanners knowhow
muchfoodtheyneedfor catering andsuch....
SoI calledmyfather.
Well,seemstherewasgoingtobeachangeofplans.
Unlikewhat hehad saidprior tomygoingtobasic, himand ' nowweren't goingtobeabletoattend.
Seemsthat and myfather haddecidedthat theyneededtospend sometimewith~ Sothey
weregoingtogetpermission fromthecourts totake LItof St. John's TrainingSchool forBoysin
Uxbridge,Ontario. AndthentheyweregoingtogodowntoDisneylandforavacation. Needlesstosay,
thelast twoweeksofcampwereanabsolute hell. I stayedholedupinmybarracks.
Thecar thief and B&Eartist goestoDisneylandandI get toldinanoffhandmanner to'gofuckmyself.
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Anyways, just some foodfor thought.
On05/07/20128:54 AM, Cleroux, Raymonde wrote:
> Mr. Bees,
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Atleast I wasn't chastised for upsetting 'msurprised the MPCCisn't goingtomake me
write awritten apology to . , Robert Hancock, Christian Cyr, Blair Hart and Frederick
Dumas for making up such wild lies and tall tales.
Andthen tobeasked if this was even worth it was stunning. Itwas almost as if they weretrying totell
methat I should never have wasted the military's time by filingacomplaint against _ 1, that
I should have kept my mouth shut and left the skeletons fromthe past inthe closet.
Tohear that even going after vould beimpossible as (a) .3 dead and (b) the only actual
witness towhat mayor may not have been doing tomeis none other than
Tohear that the CFNISinvestigators were fullyjustified innot interviewing or tracking down any of the
ten totwelvewitnesses fromthat day because they weren't actually inthe bedroom watching
molest meis unbelievable. Sowhat if idI came to the window without our shirts onafter
someone had thrown astone up at it toget our attention. Being shirtless doesn't mean that wewere
having sex.
vas not really abuse, it was just twokids Tohear that the abuse at the hands of
'experimenting' really nearly killed me.
What I didn't realize is that the MPCChas already made up it's mind and had already determined the
conclusion of the investigation prior tomy attending the meeting inPeter's room, #614 at the Sheraton
Wall Centre..
Fromthe conversation in the meeting I know that nothing what so ever will befound wrong with the
investigation byCFNIS, well okay, maybe Christian Cyr will betold tokeep his mouth shut and never
tell complainants about the true story behind the scene.
Other than that, everything the military policedid including stringing mealong pretending that they
were 'investigating' when they had already determined by"July 29th that my case was goingto go
nowhere due to alack of evidence seems tobefineand dandy.
HelloRaymonde,
I really wish you could have saved methe heartache caused by Peter Cicalo and Claude Bergeron.
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Ononehand, I'mveryhappy that I didgoafter the babysitter.
Andthen that's when I realized that everything was goneout thedoor.
There would beno parlaying an apology into atrade certificate.
Thestakes were toohigh and the military wasn't goingtoplay tolose.
But then everything exploded when Christian Cyr asked meif I knewanything about a'priest being
charged with molesting kids onnamao'
Anapology and afuture. That's all I wanted.
So, I figured that at the least I could have thebabysitter ownup towhat hedid. Andif heownedup,
then other people would have toownup forwrongfully assigning blame onmefor 'making' the
babysitter abuse meand my brother. Fromthere, maybe if I wasn't portrayed as the villain inthis whole
sad saga I would beseen as being worthy of being allowed tomake something of my life.
Andfromthere I would beable tohave thepeople that hurt methemost pick up the tab fora
certificate course inelectronics or some marketable computers skills program such as network
infrastructure.
Full-time trade programs don't really leavetimefor full-time employment and without full-time
employment there's noplace toliveor foodtoeat.
Nolawsuits ...J don't want money....
For the longest time I had alot of confusion over my . Anditwasn't until the last fewyears when
. - at it became veryclear that my issues (not my
sexual orientation) were all rooted directly inthe abuse fromCFB Namao and thereaction that people
had tothe abuse when it was discovered.
Had I received proper counselling and therapy back then, things would have been quite abit different
now.
Sexual orientation is set at birth, it's inyour genes. Gender identity is alot more fluidand tends to
develop based onaperson's experiences.
Why didI dothis inthe first place, why 32years later?
This isthe last email that any ofyou will ever receive fromme.
I'mfeeling pretty tired and I need togotosleep.
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So, anyways, I'mtired.
AndI reallywant togotosleep.
And, sothat's whyIfought for as longas Ididonthis issue.
Fair isfair.
Or at least soI thought.
Student loans don't coverfull timestudies, rent, foodandother things.
So, whywasitsoimportant that Ibeabletoparlay thebabysitter's apologyintoatradeprogram.
Idon't qualifyforanytypeof grant.
Grade8dropouts don't reallyqualifyforanything.
It doesn't matter if homelifewas soveryhorrificduetomyfather's anger issues, doesn't matter if things
wererootedinsexual abuse onamilitarybase.
I'vemyG.E.D. (ironicisn't it, myeducational career was destroyed byeventsthat occurredonamilitary
base, but Iendeduptakingatest createdfor soldiersreturning fromWWII).But most certificatecourse
will not accept G.E.D.sforenrolment, especiallynot ifyour tryingtogetastudent loantocoverthings.
But alsoreceivingmypaperwork fromAlbertaChildand FamilyServicesmademerealizethat mylife
was doomedright fromthewordgo, that theevents ofOctober 23rd, 1969hadrattled myfather's cage
morethan I couldevercomprehend.
Receiving my paperwork fromAlberta Child and Family Services and the Children's AidSociety was
worth it. Also obtaining my medical records fromIWKChildren's Hospital was ablast that I really never
expected.
Why?
It explainedtomewhyI amwhoI am.
Therewasasevereamount ofdamagedonefrom'78to'80.
Therewasalsoabsolutely nosupport at home.
Thepaperwork alsotoldmethat myI.Q. was So, at least nowr knowwhyeven thoughr only
finishedgrade inschool, Ihaven't endeduppushing ashopping cart upanddownthealleysbehind
Hastings andPender collectingenoughbottles toscoreahit of crack.
Soyes, itwouldappear that my ,..Q. didsavemefromthestreets, eventhough byall rights, that's
whereI should be.
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Government of Canada! Governement du Canada
Regards,
InMs. Cleroux's absence, I amresponding toyour message ofJuly 21, 2012. Weare sorrythat you
foundyour interviewwithour investigators upsetting. Wetakeyour concerns seriously. Commission
legal counsel assigned tothe filewill reviewthe interviewrecordinginorder toensure that theinterview
wasconducted appropriately. Inthe meantime, however, counsel has spoken tothe investigators about
the interviewand they haveassured himthat theyare genuinely concerned foryour welfare, andthat
theydidnot inany wayintend tosuggest that the MPCChas prejudgedyour complaint. Moreover,I can
assure youthat under the MPCC'sprocess, whichisbeingfollowedinthis case, itisonlytheassigned
CommissionMember (inthis case the Chair of the Commission) whodetermines the merits ofa
complaint, and that heonlydoessoafter the investigation has beencompletedand inconsultation with
the assigned legal counsel. Pleaserest assured that the MPCCiscommitted tofairness forboth
complainants and subjects ofcomplaints and that wewill continue todeal withyour complaint with
integrity and inaccordance withthe principles of natural justice.
Mr. Bees,
Confidential Sensitivity:
MilitaryPoliceComplaintsCommission2011-045(Bees)
Cyr,Chantale
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Mr. Cicaloisofthebelief that policeonlydeal with'facts'. Thisisaverypollyannish viewforan
investigator intoacomplaint ofpolicewrongdoingtohave.
Thecurrent hearings intotheVancouver PoliceDepartment andR.C.M.P.'srespectivehandlingofthe
fiascoas illustrated duringthe MissingWomen'shearingprovethat even civilianpolice
areSUbjecttopressures fromabove. Imagineif civilianpolicearesubject topressure fromabovejust
howmuchmoremilitarypolicecouldalsobemadetoyieldtopressure fromabove.
Mr. Cicaloalsoseemedtoinsinutate that policearefar above reproach andwouldnever doanything
just becausethey've beenorderedto. I brought upforMr. Cicalo togoingsonat YVRairport whenfour
RCMPofficersshoweduptodeal withonevery tiredanddehydrated, Mr.Cicalo
states againthat policeonlydeal infacts. Andaccordingtothefour RCMPofficersthat arrived at the
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I couldgoon, but this wouldbeawasteofmytime.
4)Itisamassiveconflictofinterest havingCFNISinvestigatemycomplaint against _ For
tworeasons, first theMinister ofNational Defencestands tobeplacedat risk of alawsuit ormultiple
lawsuits. Thisrisk issolelydependent ontheoutcomeoftheinvestigationintomycomplaints. Second,
my2011complaint wouldbringtheoriginal 1980investigationintothespotlight. Whoknewwhat and
whenwouldbeveryembarrassing forthemilitary, wouldn't it.
3)Yes,military policeofficersarefreetomakecomplaints about interference, however ithas been
demonstrated that this oftencomeswithapenalty, perceivedor otherwise, that anymilitarypolice
officerthat availshimor herself tothecomplaints process isthrowingtheir military career into
jeopardy. Just as anymilitarypoliceinvestigator cantakeanycasetheywishintothecivilianjustice
system. But at whichcost tohis or her career? Beingstuck as aCorporal for30years canbepretty
demoralizing, no?
2)MilitaryPolicearewithinthechain of command. Ithadbeenfoundtimeandtimeagainthat the
militarypoliceAREpronetointerferencefromup thechainofcommand. Thisinterferance occursfor
manydifferentreasons, but at theendofthedaythat National DefenceActrequires under heavy
penalty that asoldier OBEYALL'lawful'orders.
Whoexactlythis soldier issupposed toappeal thedefinitionof 'lawful' toisanyone's guess. Sure, CFN1S
issuppsoed tobeoutsideofthelocal chain ofcommand. Theystill fall well withintheoverall military
chainofcommand. Ifthethreat of 'chainof command' influencewasn't theretheMPCCwouldn't havea
process tomakecomplaints about 'influence', nowwouldit?
I honestly don't knowwhyI was sonaivewhenI went intotheMPCCmeetingwithMr. CicaloandMr.
Bergeron. I expectedtobeheard inmycomplaint against theinvestigators withCFNIS.
I expectedtobelistenedtoandnot lectured.
For bothMr. CicaloandMr. Bergerontonot beawareof themultitude ofreports written about the
dysfunction withinthemilitarypolicewas quitedisheartening.
Flawsexist withinthemilitarypolicesystem. Ofthis thereisnodoubt.
1)MilitaryPolicearesoldiersfirst andpeaceofficerssecond.
Civilianpoliceareonlypeaceofficersand servenoother purpose than tokeepthepeacebyenforcing
statutes of theCriminal CodeofCanada.
Ms. Cyr,
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>Mr. Bees,
>InMs. Cleroux's absence, I amresponding toyour message of July 21,
>2012. Weare sorry that you found your interview with our
>investigators upsetting. Wetake your concerns seriously. Commission
>legal counsel assigned to the filewill reviewthe interview recording
>in order toensure that the interview was conducted appropriately. In
>the meantime, however, counsel has spoken to the investigators about
>the interview and they have assured himthat they are genuinely
>concerned for your welfare, and that they did not in any way intend to
>suggest that the MPCC has prejudged your complaint. Moreover, I can
>assure you that under the MPCC's process, which is being followedin
>this case, it is only the assigned Commission Member (inthis case the
> Chair of the Commission) who determines the merits of acomplaint, and
>that heonly does so after the investigation has been completed and in
>consultation with the assigned legal counsel. Please rest assured
>that the MPCCis committed to fairness for both complainants and
>subjects of complaints and that wewill continue to deal with your
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Military Police Complaints Commission 2011-045 (Bees)
>Date: Wed, 25Jul 2012 17:57:31 +0000
On 25/07/2012 13:29, Bobbie Garnet Bees wrote:
>
>
I really doneed to givemyself akick inthe ass and stop being sonaive.
Ihave come torealize that my interview that occurred on March 31st,
2011 at VPDheadquarters and conducted by Mcpl Robert Hancock was not to take acomplaint fromme
about the abuse Isuffered at the hands of ' but was instead an effort by themilitary
police to 'fish' and seeexactly what Iremembered fromback in 1980.
Inowrealize that my interview with Mr. Cicalo and Mr. Bergeron onThursday July 19th, 2012 was
again another 'fishing expedition' solely designed to see what type of threat I pose tothe military police.
DoI have enough 'goods' to goafter the military or is my case soweak and circumstantial that I can be
ignored.
So, Icounter Mr. Cicalo's insistence that policeonly deal with facts.
Policeofficers are human beings and are subject tothe same pressures and influences that the rest of
us are. Toexpect that apolice officer onlyworks in aworld of black and white, where the laws are
enforced without any external influence is to state that one believes that welivein autopian world.
airport chat evening, !attacked the three officers when they tried to offer himassistance.
Things wereunder control until J without provocation attacked the officers with achair.
And those were the facts as reported by the four officers. Even the RCMPSuperintendent stated that
those were the facts. That, .vasout of control and tried to attack his officers.
Well, thankfully, due to avideo tape, weknow that the 'facts' were utter malarkey. Apurely fabricated
fantasy that only existed in the minds of the officers. The Superintendent sure back peddled really quick
when confronted with the video tape. Sure, at first he tried toplay dumb, but hehad to finally admit
that the video tape spoke the truth.
3
BobbieGarnet Bees
>
> complaint with integrity and inaccordance withtheprinciples of
>natural justice.
>Regards,
>Chantale Cyr
>ActingRegistrar / Greffierepar interim Military PoliceComplaints
>Commission 1Commission d'examen des plaintes concernant lapolice
>militaireTelephone 1Telephone: (613) 947-5668
> Facsimile1Telecopieur: (613) 947-5713
>270Albert Street, 10th Floor1270rue Albert 1QI'eetage, Ottawa, ON
>KIP 5G8
>Email/Couriel:_Chantale.cyr@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca_
><mailto:Chantale.cYr@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca>
>Government of Canada 1Governement du Canada
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I honestly don't know why I was so naive when I went in to the MPCCmeeting with Mr. Cicalo and Mr.
Bergeron. I expected to beheard inmy complaint against the investigators with CFNIS.
I expected tobelistened to and not lectured.
For both Mr. Cicalo and Mr. Bergeron tonot beaware of the multitude of reports written about the
dysfunction within the military police was quite disheartening.
Ms. Cyr,
From: Bobbie Garnet Bees [mailto.c , _
Sent: July-25-l2 5:19PM
To: Cyr, Chantale
Cc:
Subject: Re: Fwd: Military Police Complaints Commission 2011-045 (Bees)
Importance: High
Cecourriel est destine exclusivement au(x) destinataire(s) mentionnets] ci-dessus et peut contenir de
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Chantale Cyr
Acting Registrar IGreffiere par interim
Military Police Complaints Commission 1Commission d'examen des plaintes concernant lapolice
militaire Telephone 1Telephone: (613) 947-5668
Facsimile 1Telecopieur: (613) 947-5713
270 Albert Street, 10th Floor 1270rue Albert 10eetage, Ottawa, ONK1P5G8
Emaif /Couriel: Chantale.cyr@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca Government of Canada 1Governement du Canada
At this time, I would only add that the MPCCis civilian body independent of DND. As such, wehave no
interest in shielding the military police or the Minister himself fromfindings of wrongdoing, and weare
indifferent as towhether our investigations result in any exposure of the Department to Jegalliability.
I can advise you that weat the MPCChave aspecific process for dealing with complaints about the
conduct of employees or agents of the Commission. Here is alink to the MPCCwebpage which sets out
our MPCCstandards of service complaints process http://www.mpcc-cppm.gc.ca/1 00I 160-eng.aspx.
Please advise if you wish to make aservice complaint regarding the conduct of the MPCC investigators.
Please note that wewill, in any event, reviewthe recording of your interview in order to satisfy ourselves
whether the investigators conducted themselves appropriately.
Dear Mr. Bees,
Cyr, Chantale
J uly-26-12 3:50 PM
'Bobbie Garnet Bees'
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I have come torealize that my interview that occurred on March 31st,
2011 at VPDheadquarters and conducted by Mcpl Robert Hancock was not totake acomplaint fromme
about the abuse I suffered at the hands of "'but was instead an effort by the military
police to'fish' and see exactly what I remembered fromback in 1980.
2
So, I counter Mr. Cicalo's insistence that police only deal with facts.
Policeofficers are human beings and are subject tothe same pressures and influences that therest of
us are. Toexpect that apolice officer only works inaworld of black and white, where the laws are
enforced without any external influence is to state that onebelieves that weliveinautopian world.
Mr. Cicalo is of the belief that policeonly deal with 'facts'. This isaverypollyannish viewfor an
investigator into acomplaint of policewrong doing to have.
Thecurrent hearings into the Vancouver Police Department and R.C.M.P.'s respective handling of the
.iasco as illustrated during the Missing Women's hearing prove that even civilianpolice
are subject topressures fromabove. Imagine if civilian policeare subject topressure fromabovejust
howmuch more military policecould also bemade toyield topressure fromabove.
Mr. Cicalo also seemed toinsinutate that police are far above reproach and would never doanything
just because they've been ordered to. I brought up for Mr. Cicalo togoings onat YVRairport when four
RCMPofficers showed up todeal with onevery tired and dehydrated 1. Mr. Cicalo
states again that police only deal infacts. And according tothe four RCMPofficers that arrived at the
airport that evening, ittacked the three officers when they tried tooffer himassistance.
Things wereunder control until J 'ithout provocation attacked the officers with achair.
And those were the facts as reported bythe four officers. Eventhe RCMPSuperintendent stated that
those were the facts. That Masout of control and tried toattack his officers.
Well, thankfully, due toavideo tape, weknow that the 'facts' wereutter malarkey. Apurely fabricated
fantasy that only existed inthe minds of the officers. The Superintendent sure back peddled really quick
when confronted with the videotape. Sure, at first he tried toplay dumb, but hehad tofinally admit
that the video tape spoke the truth.
I could goon, but this would beawaste of my time.
4) It is amassive conflict of interest having CFNIS investigate my complaint against For
tworeasons, first the Minister of National Defence stands tobeplaced at risk of alawsuit or multiple
lawsuits. This risk is solely dependent onthe outcome of the investigation into my complaints. Second,
my 2011 complaint would bring the original 1980 investigation into the spotlight. Whoknewwhat and
when would bevery embarrassing for the military, wouldn't it.
3) Yes, military police officers arefreetomake complaints about interference, however it has been
demonstrated that this often comes with apenalty, perceived or otherwise, that any military police
officer that avails himor herself tothe complaints process isthrowing their military career into
jeopardy. Just as any military policeinvestigator can take any case they wish into the civilianjustice
system. But at which cost tohis or her career? Being stuck as aCorporal for 30years can bepretty
demoralizing, no?
2)Military Policeare within the chain of command. It had been found timeand time again that the
military policeARE prone tointerference fromup the chain of command. This interferance occurs for
many different reasons, but at the end of the day that National Defence Act requires under heavy
penalty that asoldier OBEY ALL'lawful' orders.
Whoexactly this soldier is supposed toappeal the definition of 'lawful' toisanyone's guess. Sure, CFNIS
is suppsoed tobeoutside of the local chain of command. They still fall well within the overall military
chain of command. If the threat of 'chain of command' influence wasn't there the MPCCwouldn't have a
process to make complaints about 'influence', nowwould it?
Flaws exist within the military policesystem. Of this there isno doubt.
1)Military Police are soldiers first and peace officers second.
Civilian police are only peace officers and serve no other purpose than tokeep the peace byenforcing
statutes of the Criminal Codeof Canada.
>
>
>
>Mr. Bees,
>InMs. Cleroux'sabsence, I amresponding toyour messageofJuly 21,
>2012. Wearesorry that youfoundyour interviewwithour
>investigators upsetting. Wetakeyour concerns seriously. Commission
>legal counsel assigned tothefilewillreviewtheinterviewrecording
>inorder toensure that theinterviewwasconducted appropriately. In
>themeantime, however, counsel has spokentotheinvestigators about
>theinterviewandtheyhaveassured himthat theyaregenuinely
>concerned foryour welfare, andthat theydidnot inanywayintendto
>suggest that theMPCChas prejudgedyour complaint. Moreover,I can
>assure youthat under theMPCC'sprocess, whichisbeingfollowedin
>this case, itisonlytheassigned CommissionMember (inthis casethe
>Chair of theCommission) whodetermines themerits of acomplaint, and
>that heonlydoessoafter theinvestigationhas beencompletedandin
>consultation withtheassigned legal counsel. Pleaserest assured
>that theMPCCiscommitted tofairness forbothcomplainants and
>subjects ofcomplaints andthat wewill continue todeal withyour
>complaint withintegrity and inaccordancewiththeprinciples of
>natural justice.
>Regards,
>ChantaleCyr
>ActingRegistrar/Greffierepar interimMilitaryPoliceComplaints
>Commission 1Commissiond'examen desplaintes concernant lapolice
>militaireTelephone 1Telephone: (613)947-5668
>Facsimile1Telecopieur: (613)947-5713
>270AlbertStreet, 10thFloor1270rueAlbert 10Aeetage, Ottawa, ON
>KIP 5G8
>Email/Couriel:_Chantale.cyr@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca_
><mailto:Chantale.cYr@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca>
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>NOTE:
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>-------- Original Message--------
>Subject: MilitaryPoliceComplaints Commission2011-045 (Bees)
>Date: Wed,25Jul 2012 17:57:31+0000
>From: Cyr, Chantale <Chantale.Cyr@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca>
> To:
I really do need to givemyself akick in the ass and stop being sonaive.
I nowrealize that my interview with Mr. Cicalo and Mr. Bergeron onThursday July 19th, 2012 was
again another 'fishing"expedition' solely designed to seewhat type of threat I pose to the military police.
Do I have enough 'goods' to goafter the military or ismy case soweak and circumstantial that I can be
ignored.
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BobbieGarnet Bees
>immediately notifythe sender and deletethis e-mail message.
> Cecourriel est destine exclusivement au(x)destinataire(s)
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>confidentielle et/ oudisperisee dedivulgationaux termes des lois
> applicables. Si vous avezrecu cemessage par erreur, ous'il nevous
>est pas destine, veuillez lementionner immediaternent al'expediteur
>et effacer cecourriel.
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>
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>
Iwasn't evenbornyetwhenthemilitary screwedwithmeforthefirsttime. TheOctober 23rd, 1969
HMCSKootenayincident friedmyfather's noodlepretty good. HisselfmedicationwasLamb'sNavy
Rum.
ThenI findmyself at agessevenandeight beingmolestedbymybabysitter forwhichmyfather heldme
100%responsible.
NowI fullyunderstand whyeverycivilianlawyerthat I'vespokentohas toldmetosimplywalkaway
fromthis matter. I sit inanodd'nomans land'. I amacivilian. Ihavenever beenamember ofthe
military. But Ifindmyself tryingtotakeonthemilitaryjustice systemwhichoperates under it'sown
byzantinerules andregulations whicharesocompletelydifferentfromthecivilianjustice system.
Themilitaryjustice systemoperates under thepremise that Ivoluntarilysignedupformilitarydutyand
that Ifullyunderstood and comprehended therisks that camewithdoingso.
Iwasbornintoamilitaryfamily.Thiswasnot mychoice. Honestly, ifmymother hadanabortionit
wouldhavebeenpreferabletotheexistenceofbeingthemilitary's "dirtylittlesecret".
'junior and
I amreallybeginningtodoubt ifI will ever seemydayofjustice against
theCanadian ArmedForces.
2) For MrCicalotonot fullyunderstand or comprehend theimplications ofthemembers ofCFNISbeing
inthechain ofcommand inscary. Sure, CFNISisnot inthelocal chainof command, but theystill do
fall well withinthechainof command.
3)Ithas beenpointedout that evenwithacomplaints process inplaceforinvestigators tomake
complaints about interference andpressure beingappliedtoanyinvestigation, ithas beennotedthat 8]'1
investigator will avail themselves tothis process at their ownperil.
TheMPCChas nomeans what soevertoprotect anysoldierwho'rats out'
asuperior forinterferingwithaninvestigation, correct?
etc"
So, hopefullyyoucanunderstand just hownumb Iwas inthehours after theinterview. Itwassad. I
went intothat meetinghopingforprogress.
1)HowcanMr. Cicaloquestion meastohowI canassume that CFNISknewabout _
)ItwasMaster Corporal Christian Cyrwhotoldmeabout the'priest molestingkidson
CFBNamao'. ThisalsofitsinwithMaster Corporal Hancock repeatedlyaskingmeat theendofthe
videointerviewonMarch31st, 2011if I had"anythingelsethat I wantedtotell him, any thingat all,
Asyoucanhopefullyunderstand, I'vehadacrash courseonthemilitarypolice, theNational Defence
Act, and themilitaryingeneral sincelast vear whenI wasfirst toldbyMaster Corporal ChristianCyr
about thegoingsonof, _ 0.. - in1980.
Youcan't believehowdisheartened IwastoreadtheMarinreport, thefinal report fromtheInquiryinto
Somalia, thereports intoBosniaandthelist goeson.
HowI couldevenget socaught upinadysfunctional 'justice' systemisacompletemystery tome. Iwas
onlyamilitarydependent. Andifyouask me, Ipaidfar toohighofapricetoallowthemilitaryto'hide'
theactions of ( andhisaltar boy
Ms. Cyr,
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Re: Fwd: MilitaryPoliceComplaints Commission2011-045 (Bees)
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>Atthis time, Iwouldonlyadd that theMPCCiscivilianbodyindependent of DND. Assuch, wehave
nointerest inshielding themilitary policeor theMinister himself fromfindings ofwrongdoing, andwe
areindifferent as towhether our investigations result inany exposureoftheDepartment tolegal
liability.
>
>
> Chantale Cyr
> ActingRegistrarj Greffierepar interim
>
On26/07/2012 12:50, Cyr, Chantale wrote:
>Dear Mr. Bees,
>
>Ican adviseyouthat weat theMPCChaveaspecificprocess for dealingwithcomplaints about the
conduct of employeesor agents of theCommission. HereisalinktotheMPCCwebpagewhichsets out
our MPCCstandards of servicecomplaints process http://www.mpcc-cppm.gc.cajlOOjI60-eng.aspx.
Pleaseadviseifyouwishtomake aservicecomplaint regarding theconduct oftheMPCCinvestigators.
Pleasenotethat wewill,inany event, reviewtherecording ofyour interviewinorder tosatisfyourselves
whether theinvestigators conducted themselves appropriately.
But Ireallyhopethat youunderstand, Ireallyhopethat Iamgetting
through.
Anyways,Ihavetogotowork nowand Ireallyhatehavingtore-explainmyself everytime.
SohereIamat age40comingtotherealizationthat not onlywas Ibeingscrewedby .
andpossibly rutthat theCanadian ArmedForces screwedmefornoother reason that to
protect their imageand prestige. If onlyyoucouldread thereports fromtheAlbertaChildandFamily
Serviceswhichmyfamilybecame involvedwithinOctober 1980after wehad beenmovedfromCFB
Edmonton(Namao) toCFBGreisbach.
Thereal horrificthing about this is , according tothetimelinefromnewspaper articles,
onlyratted out on after hehad beencaught fuckingme. A15year oldboyfuckingan8year old
boyisnot averygoodthing tobecaught doing. Especially not onamilitarybase. Thefact that
oesri't evenhavetosimplyapologizefor thedestruction hewrought onmylifemakes me
angry beyondbelief, especially whenitlooksasifthis isbeingdonesothat themilitaryisn't ultimately
calledtotask forwhat happened all thoseyears ago.
And then 32 years later Ifindout that thebasechaplain that mybabysitter, had been
taking meover toseehad aproblemkeepinghis hands of kids.
J seemedtolikethemyoungand fromdysfunctional homes. Ifitinbothcategories.
Tofindout that mybabysitter had, bymilitarylogic,been allowedtoplaytheroleof the'innocent angel"
isabsolutely maddening.
Thereallyupsetting thing about thiswholefiascoistheonlyonewhocanconfirmif the'sicklysweet
grapejuice' that las givingtomewhenJ ouldtakemeto ivingquarters
was actually sugared sacramental wine, isnoneother than
lisn't goingtofessuptotakingkids over, nowishe?
> NOTE:
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immediatement al'expediteuret effacer cecourriel.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bobbie Garnet Bees [mailtc:'
> Sent: July-25-12 5:19 PM
>To: Cyr, Chanrat=
>Cc:
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Military PonceComplaints Commission 2011-045 (Bees)
> Importance: High
>
>Ms. Cyr,
>
>I honestly don't know why I was so naive when I went in to the MPCC
>meeting with Mr. Cicalo and Mr. Bergeron. I expected to be heard in my
>complaint against the investigators with CFNIS.
> I expected to be listened to and not lectured.
> For both Mr. Cicalo and Mr. Bergeron to not be aware of the multitude of
> reports written about the dysfunction within the military police was
>quite disheartening.
>Flaws exist within the military police system. Of this there is no doubt.
> 1) Military Police are soldiers first and peace officers second.
>Civilian police are only peace officers and serve no other purpose than
> to keep the peace by enforcing statutes of the Criminal Code of Canada.
>
>2)Military Police are within the chain of command. It had been found
>time and time again that the military police ARE prone to interference
> fromup the chain of command. This interferance occurs for many
> different reasons, but at the end of the day that National Defence Act
>requires under heavy penalty that asoldier OBEY ALL 'lawful' orders.
>Who exactly this soldier is supposed to appeal the definition of
> 'lawful' to is anyone's guess. Sure, CFNIS is suppsoed to be outside of
>the local chain of command. They still fall well within the overall
> military chain of command. If the threat of 'chain of command' influence
> wasn't there the MPCC wouldn't have aprocess to make complaints about
>'influence', nowwould it?
>
> 3) Yes, military police officers are free to make complaints about
>interference, however it has been demonstrated that this often comes
>with apenalty, perceived or otherwise, that any military police officer
> that avails him or herself to the complaints process is throwing their
3
> Military Police Complaints Commission 1
>Commission d'examen des plaintes concernant lapolice militaire
>Telephone 1Telephone: (613) 947-5668
>Facsimile 1Telecopieur: (613) 947-5713
> 270 Albert Street, 10th Floor 1270 rue Albert 10eetage, Ottawa, ONKIP 5G8
> Email/Couriel:Chantale.cyr@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca
> Government of Canada 1Governement du Canada
>
>Mr. Cicaloisof thebelief that policeonlydeal with'facts'. Thisis
>averypollyannish viewforaninvestigator intoacomplaint ofpolice
>wrongdoingtohave.
>Thecurrent hearings intotheVancouverPoliceDepartment andR.C.M.P.'s
>respectivehandling ofthe fiascoasillustrated during
> the MissingWomen'shearingprovethat evencivilianpolicearesubject
>topressures fromabove. Imagineif civilianpolicearesubject to
>pressure fromabovejust howmuch moremilitarypolicecouldalsobe
>madetoyieldtopressure fromabove.
>Mr.Cicaloalsoseemedtoinsinutate that policearefar abovereproach
>andwouldnever doanythingjust becausethey'vebeenorderedto. I
>brought upforMr. Cicalo togoingsonat YVRairport whenfour RCMP
>officersshoweduptodeal withoneverytiredanddehydrated
> Mr. Cicalostates againthat policeonlydeal infacts. And
>accordingtothefour RCMPofficersthat arrivedat theairport that
> evening, I attackedthethreeofficerswhentheytriedto
>offerhimassistance. Thingswereunder control until J
>without provocationattacked theofficerswithachair. Andthosewere
> thefactsasreported bythefour officers.EventheRCMPSuperintendent
> stated that thosewerethefacts. That wasout ofcontrol
> andtriedtoattack his officers.
>Well,thankfully, duetoavideotape, weknowthat the'facts' were
>utter malarkey. Apurelyfabricatedfantasy that onlyexistedinthe
>mindsoftheofficers.TheSuperintendent surebackpeddledreallyquick
>whenconfrontedwiththevideotape. Sure, at first hetriedtoplay
> dumb, but hehadtofinallyadmit that thevideotapespokethetruth.
>
>So, I counter Mr. Cicalo'sinsistence that policeonlydeal withfacts.
> Policeofficersarehuman beingsandaresubjecttothesamepressures
> andinfluencesthat therest ofus are. Toexpectthat apoliceofficer
> onlyworksinaworldofblack andwhite, wherethelawsareenforced
>without anyexternal influenceistostatethat onebelievesthat we
>liveinautopian world.
>
>I havecometorealizethat myinterviewthat occurred onMarch31st,
>2011at VPDheadquarters andconducted byMcpl Robert Hancockwasnot to
>takeacomplaint frommeabout theabuseI sufferedat thehands of
> but wasinstead aneffortbythemilitarypoliceto
>'fish' andseeexactlywhat I rememberedfrombackin1980.
>I nowrealizethat myinterviewwithMr. CicalaandMr. Bergeronon
>Thursday J uly 19th, 2012wasagainanother 'fishingexpedition' solely
> designedtoseewhat typeof threat I posetothemilitarypolice. DoI
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>militarycareer intojeopardy. J ust asanymilitarypoliceinvestigator
>cantakeanycasetheywishintothecivilianjusticesystem. But at
>whichcosttohis orher career? Beingstuck asaCorporal for30years
>canbepretty demoralizing, no?
>
>4)Itisamassiveconflictof interest havingCFNISinvestigatemy
>complaint against; _ Fortworeasons, first theMinister
>of National Defencestands tobeplacedat risk ofalawsuit or multiple
>lawsuits. Thisrisk issolelydependent ontheoutcomeof the
>investigationintomycomplaints. Second, my2011complaint wouldbring
>theoriginal 1980investigationintothespotlight. Whoknewwhat and
>whenwouldbeveryembarrassing forthemilitary, wouldn't it.
>
>I couldgoon, but thiswouldbeawasteofmytime.
>On25/07/2012 13:29, Bobbie Garnet Bees wrote:
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Subject: Military PoliceComplaints Commission 2011-045 (Bees)
Date: Wed, 25Jul2012 17:57:31 +0000
From: Cyr, Chantale <Chantale.Cyr@mpcc-cppm.gc.ca>
To:
Mr. Bees,
InMs. Cleroux's absence, I amresponding toyour message of July 21,
2012. Weare sorry that you found your interview with our
investigators upsetting. Wetake your concerns seriously. Commission
legal counsel assigned tothefilewill reviewthe interview recording
inorder toensure that the interview was conducted appropriately. In
themeantime, however, counsel has spoken tothe investigators about
theinterview and they have assured himthat they aregenuinely
concerned for your welfare, and that they didnot inany way intend to
suggest that the MPCChas prejudged your complaint. Moreover, I can
assure you that under the MPCC'sprocess, which is being followedin
this case, it is only the assigned Commission Member (inthis case the
Chair of the Commission) whodetermines the merits of acomplaint, and
that heonly does soafter the investigation has been completed and in
consultation with the assigned legal counsel. Please rest assured
that theMPCCis committed tofairness for both complainants and
subjects of complaints and that wewill continue todeal withyour
complaint with integrity and inaccordance with the principles of
natural justice. .
Regards,
>>Chantale Cyr
>>ActingRegistrar 1Greffierepar interim
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>haveenough 'goods' togoafter themilitary or is my case soweak and
>circumstantial that I can beignored.
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>I really doneed togivemyself akick intheass and stop being sonaive.
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And if it turns out that the military claimed jurisdiction over my 2011complaint against _ asa
means of derailing any civilian investigation for thesole purpose of keeping this mess dead and buried in the
past, what then?
Can you please tell me why no one seems to want to deal with the truth in this matter? What is so wrong about
them admitting that they( the military, not the investigators with CFNIS) screwed up heavily in 1980?
Well as you can see by the attached pictures, the chapel is where it always has been. It's never been moved. It
was however heavily renovated in 1991to REMOVE theliving quarters and replace them with an office of
sorts.
And this was later renovated in 2000? (The last digit is missing)
I told Master Corporal Christian Cyr about the times that ..r__ took me over to thechapel to visit
witt. in his living quarters. I also sent hima'snapshot' from Google Earth along with amap showing the
route we used when we fled the chapel after vandalizing it. Mr. Cyr said that I had to have been mistaken as the
chapel in the picture that I sent wasn't the same chapel from 1980. According to himthey had been moved. He
was also somewhat sure that no one ever lived at the chapel. Didn't say no for sure, but seemed to imply tome
that lived elsewhere.
Mr. Cicala and Mr. Bergeron,
I went through theCD-ROM that I just received from the National Defence Head Quarters Access to
Information Office.
((Okay-- have to try again, original message was far too large)))
;-)
From: Bobbie Garnet Bees [mailto:I
Sent: August-17-12 4:47 AM
To: Cicala, Peter; Bergeron, Claude; Cleroux, Raymonde;
Subject: Our Lady of Loretto Chapel.. ...
Importance: High
FYI and for attachment to the file.
Regards
Peter
High Importance:
Signed By:
Cicalo, Peter
August-17-12 9:48AM
- Registry
Goetz, David
FW: OurLadyof Loretto Chapel.....
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He agreed to let me know what the RCMP decided to do.
He indicated that he has been in touch with the Ombudsman's office and that, at their suggestion, he has taken his
concerns to the RCMP who are currently considering whether to conduct an investigation.
I advised that the N D/CF Ombudsman does, with the Minister's approval, have the authority to look into pre-1998
matters. I further advised that while the Ombudsman is precluded from addressing complaints relating to the MPs
which are being dealt with under N DA Part IV, this is not the case with respect to 1980 MP conduct, and, unlike the
Ombudsman, MPCC has no discretion at all to go back before Dec. 1, 1999.
He also just wanted to generally discuss his grievances against r 1,and in particular, the military, for their
failure to protect, and then subsequently, to assist him. He really wishes that someone could look into the MPs' 1980
failures. He believes that, due to the : case, the MPs knew that one of his vicitirns
was abusing other children, but he implies that they did nothing because ~ vas the prosecution's key witness
against He further advised that the military's failure of him did not end there. He claims that his father's CO
"ran interference" for his father by telling Alberta Child Services that the father would start attending family counselling
sessions, in order to stave off a move to remove Mr. B ees from the family home and put him in foster care with access
to appropriate psychological services. However, his father never attended such counselling, because he (and, therefore,
the family) was then transferred to Downsview ON . Alberta Child Services tried to follow up by getting Toronto CAS
onto the case. However, Mr. B ees claims that his ATIP'd/FOI'd info suggests that the military was not helpful in assisting
the CAS in locating Mr. B ees' family in Downsview. As such, he claims he did not receive proper care or treatment.
He called to advise of the results of an ATIP request which he says supports his recollection about the timing and
circumstances of the J une 1980 house fire at the PMQ (CFB N amao). He says that CFN IS WO Hart had
expressed some doubt about Mr. B ees' ability to accurately recall dates and other details from that time period. He also
claims that WO Hart suggested that the fire was perhaps a small grease fire in the kitchen. However, Mr. B ees says that
the documentation he has recently obtained from DAIP supports his recollection that the fire was caused by a natural
gas leak and caused extensive damage: $271<in 1980 dollars. I assured B ees that there was extensive documentation in
the CFN IS G O file about the fire in question and that, whatever the N IS investigator may have said to him at one point in
time, the MPs did ultimately have access to the correct information about the fire.
I spoke with Mr. B ees this afternoon for about 40 minutes, in response to his call.
G oetz, David
J anuary-18-13 4:08 PM
- Registry
Muir, Hugh; Dunbar, J ulianne
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