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Table 1 Convexity Requirements from Various Welding Standards
Standard Category Requirement
AWS D1.1:2006 Statically and cyclically For face width (W)
5
16 in.
1
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
loaded structures (5.24.3) For
5
16 in. < W < 1 in.
1
8 in. maximum convexity (C)
For W 1 in.
3
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
AWS D1.1:90 Statically and cyclically For measured leg size (L)
5
16 in.
1
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
loaded structures For
5
16 in. < L < 1 in.
1
8 in. maximum convexity (C)
For L 1 in.
3
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
AWS D1.1:85 Statically and cyclically Maximum convexity (C) = 0.07 face width (W) + 0.06 in.
loaded structures
AWS D1.2:2003 Statically and cyclically loaded Maximum convexity (C) = 0.07 face width (W) + 0.06 in.
structures (5.14.2)
Tubular structures Class 1 Maximum convexity (C) = 0.15 largest specified leg size (S) + 0.06 in.
(5.14.4, Table 5.5)
Tubular structures Class 2 Maximum convexity (C) = 20% of theoretical throat
(5.14.4, Table 5.6)
AWS D1.3:98 Fillet weld face (6.1.1.4) Faces of fillet welds shall be flat or slightly convex.
AWS D1.5:2002 Quality of Welds Visual Inspection Maximum convexity (C) = 0.07 face width (W) + 0.06 in.
(6.26.1.4)
AWS D14.1:2005 Welding Profiles (10.7.1) Maximum convexity (C) = 0.1 actual fillet weld size (S) + 0.03 in.
AWS D14.3:2005 Quality of Welds Fillet Welds Maximum convexity (C) = 0.1 actual leg size + 0.06 in.
(9.5.5.1)
AWS D14.4:2005 Joint Class I through VI For face width (W)
5
16 in.
1
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
For
5
16 in. < W < 1 in.
1
8 in. maximum convexity (C)
For W 1 in.
3
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
AWS D14.6:2005 Weld Surface Conditions (7.4.1) Maximum convexity (C) = 0.1 actual (or longer) leg size +
1
32 in.
AWS D15.1:2001 Weld Profiles Fillet Welds (13.4.1) General Note: Maximum convexity (C) = 0.07 face width (W) + 0.06 in.
For face width (W)
5
16 in.
1
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
For
5
16 in. < W < 1 in.
1
8 in. maximum convexity (C)
For W 1 in.
3
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
AWS D17.1:2001 Figure 6.1 Acceptable and For face width (W)
5
16 in.
1
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
Unacceptable Weld Profiles For
5
16 in. < W < 1 in.
1
8 in. maximum convexity (C)
For W 1 in.
3
16 in. maximum convexity (C)
MIL-STD-1688A Shape of fillet weld face (7.4.4)
1
16 in. to +
3
16 in. from line drawn toe to toe
Reentrant angles > 90 deg
MIL-STD-1689A Shape of fillet weld face (8.2.3) Fillet and fillet reinforced welds shall be essentially flat (
1
16 in. to
+
3
16 in. of a line drawn toe to toe).
MIL-STD-2035 Shape of the weld face (4.2.1) Welds shall be free of sharp irregularities between weld beads and shall
blend smoothly and gradually with the base metal at the weld edges
without exceeding the undercut (4.2.16) or reentrant angle (4.2.19) limits
of this specification.
4.2.19 Reentrant angle. The angle formed between the base plate and the
toe of the weld and the angle formed between adjacent beads of a weld
must be 90 deg or greater.
ISO 5817
(a)
No. 1.12, Incorrect weld toe = toe reentrant angle
groove welds
Quality Level D 90 deg
Quality Level C 110 deg
Quality Level B 150 deg
ISO 5817
(a)
No. 1.12, Incorrect weld toe = toe reentrant angle
fillet welds
Quality Level D 90 deg
Quality Level C 100 deg
Quality Level B 110 deg
(a) Welding Fusion-welded joints in steel, nickel, titanium and their alloys (beam welding excluded) Quality levels for imperfections
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stresses are transverse to the weld axis,
and the structure is loaded in a cyclic
(fatigue) manner.
So, the critical issue is the
resulting reentrant angle at the weld
toes, which defines the degree of stress
concentration. Consequently, if the
goal is to judge convexity in terms of
its effect on the structural performance
of a fillet weld, a better approach
would be to limit the reentrant angle at
the weld toes rather than the amount of
convexity present. Not only does this
more directly address how a weld
performs in service, reentrant angle is a
geometric condition that could be more
easily measured by the welding
inspector. In fact, go/no-go gauges
could be developed to aid in a more
efficient and effective measurement of
the condition. Figure 2 shows various
combinations of convexity and
reentrant angles in fillet welds.
The illustrations shown in Fig. 2
are drawn approximately to scale to
show how much convexity might be
present and the weld still be considered
acceptable in terms of the current
requirements in AWS D1.1 and several
other codes. The -in. weld size has an
actual face of just over
5
16 in., so the
maximum permissible convexity is
1
8
in. In both cases, the amount of
convexity is acceptable, but the
reentrant angles at the weld toes are
less than 90 deg so these welds would
be considered unacceptable due to
overlap.
Another issue with the bracketed
approach to defining permissible
convexity, i.e., a given amount of
convexity for a range of face widths, is
the fact that the same amount of
convexity produces dramatically
different reentrant angles. In the
current D1.1 system, theoretical face
widths from
5
16 to 1 in. relate to fillet
weld sizes from to
11
16 in. Figure 3
shows the same amount of convexity
(
1
8 in.) as in Fig. 2A, but in this case,
the fillet weld size is
11
16 in.
It is obvious here that, not only is
the convexity acceptable, the weld is
free from overlap. Comparing Figs. 2A
and 3 shows that assignment of a
specific amount of convexity for a
range of fillet weld sizes can result in
dramatically different stress
concentrations at the weld toes.
While the intent of this article is to
point out the deficiencies in most of the
currently employed systems for
limiting convexity in fillet welds, both
from a geometric and inspection
standpoint, it is realized that requesting
such a dramatic change in the approach
will not result in any immediate
changes in the standards. Before
providing what I believe to be a viable
solution, Id like to present a
description of a technique that can be
employed, with available gauges, to
measure the amount of convexity
present in a fillet weld. It must be
pointed out that such an approach is
theoretical, and measurements are
based on nominal fillet weld sizes. It
does, however, provide the inspector
with a better approach than just
eyeballing the weld profile and
making a judgment. Since AWS D1.1
is generally considered to be the
dominant standard for structural
welding, the example below is based
on the current AWS D1.1 requirements
for convexity.
Method for Measuring Fillet
Weld Convexity
AWS D1.1 Limits. The limitations
on convexity are shown in Table 2 (from
Fig. 5.24 of AWS D1.1:2006). The
permissible amount of convexity is
based upon the fillet weld face width, or
width of individual weld bead, either of
which is difficult to measure. Once the
face width is determined, the permissible
convexity is then per Table 2.
Measurement Technique
This technique utilizes
trigonometry to determine the
theoretical dimensions and then uses a
fillet weld gauge normally employed
for measurement of concave fillet weld
profiles to make the actual
measurement. This example is for a
specified -in. (6-mm) fillet weld.
Refer to Fig. 4 for the nomenclature
used in the calculations.
Calculations. Per the geometric
properties of a triangle:
T
1
= 0.707 0.25 in.
T
1
= 0.18 in.
T
2
= T
1
+ 0.13 in.
T
2
= 0.31 in.
L
2
= T
2
/0.707
L
2
= 0.31/0.707
L
2
= 0.44 in. (
7
16 in.)
A
7
16-in. concave fillet weld gauge
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Fig. 2 -in. fillet welds with
acceptable convexity per AWS D1.1.
Table 2 Determining Permissible Convexity
Face width or width of individual weld bead, W Maximum permissible convexity
W
5
16 in. (8 mm)
1
16 in. (2 mm)
5
16 in. < W < 1 in. (25 mm)
1
8 in. (3 mm)
W 1 in.
3
16 in. (5 mm)
B
A
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can be used to approximate the amount
of convexity permissible for a -in.
fillet weld (as shown in Fig. 4).
Table 3 summarizes the
dimensional limits for a range of fillet
weld sizes and what concave fillet weld
(or fillet weld throat) gauges can be
used to measure convexity.
The Proposed Solution
Having laid this foundation, the
important aspect of this exercise is to
provide some viable solution to allow
the designer to stipulate the necessary
fillet weld profile for a given weld
based on the expected loading
conditions and to provide the inspector
with a means of judging the result in a
more effective and accurate manner.
I believe the solution is the
approach put forth in ISO 5817,
Welding Fusion-welded joints in
steel, nickel, titanium and their alloys
(beam welding excluded) Quality
levels for imperfections. With various
classes available to the designer,
convexity requirements for different
loading conditions can be specified
quite easily. This can be done on a
weld-by-weld basis, so those welds
subject to more critical loading
conditions can be specified as Class B,
for example. Other welds whose
loading conditions deem them less
critical can be assigned Class C or D
status. This differentiation could be
included in the tail of the welding
symbol so the designer could very
easily dictate the specific weld
requirements to both production and
inspection personnel.
AWS D1.1 has used this type of
approach for limits on undercut;
however, the requirement falls short
because there is no stipulation that the
designer designate which welds are
transverse to the applied stress and
which ones are parallel. It should be
designated in the tail of the symbol so
the inspector has all the information
necessary to perform his/her job
effectively.
Proposed Solution
1. Rather than controlling fillet
weld profile by specifying a dimension
for convexity, specify limits for the
reentrant angle at the weld toe.
2. Provide different limits for
different loading conditions so the toe
angle can be specified according to the
expected service conditions.
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Fig. 3 Acceptable convexity in a
11
16-
in. fillet weld per AWS D1.1.
Table 3 Dimensional Limits for a Range of Fillet Weld Sizes
Fillet weld size, in. Theoretical face width, in. Permissible convexity, in. Concave fillet weld gauge or
fillet weld throat gauge to be
used to measure convexity
3
16 0.27
1
16 0.28 (~
9
32)
0.35
1
8 0.43 (~
7
16)
5
16 0.44
1
8 0.49 (~
1
2)
3
8 0.53
1
8 0.55 (~
9
16)
7
16 0.62
1
8 0.61 (~
5
8)
0.71
1
8 0.68 (~
11
16)
5
8 0.88
1
8 0.80 (~
13
16)
1.1
3
16 1.02 (~1)
7
8 1.2
3
16 1.14 (1
9
64)
1 1.4
3
16 1.27 (~1)
Fig. 4 Use of a concave fillet weld
gauge to approximate the amount of
permissible convexity.
RICHARD L. HOLDREN, P.E.
(dick.holdren@atcwelds.com), is vice
president, Engineering and Quality,
Applications Technologies Co.,
Columbus, Ohio, and an AWS Senior
Certified Welding Inspector.
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A lack of special welding
inspections offers the potential for
quality problems, life safety issues, and
liabilities. The intent of this article is to
provide a reference tool for Certified
Welding Inspectors, owners, engineers,
architects, building officials, building
department staff inspectors, and other
design professionals.
The Inspection Issue
What constitutes an approved
fabricator? There seems to be some
confusion about this issue. It is
commonly assumed that as long as a
welding fabrication shop is AISC
certified or is licensed by an agency
such as the Los Angeles Department of
Building and Safety, it is exempt from
shop welding inspections. This simply
is not the case.
Actually, it is the building official
for the jurisdiction in which the project
is permitted who has the authority to
approve the fabricator. For
consideration of approval, the
fabricator must submit his or her
quality information to the building
official as required by Section 1701.7
of the California Building Code (CBC)
or Section 1704.2.2 of the
International Building Code (IBC).
This process must be completed prior
to any welding being performed. It is
from this information that the building
official makes the decision whether or
not to approve a fabricator and waive
the requirement of shop welding
inspections for that specific project.
Generally, most building departments
throughout California do not approve
fabricators. Therefore, the owner or
owners representative must provide
shop welding inspections. These
inspections must be performed by
qualified inspectors who have
demonstrated competence, to the
satisfaction of the building official, for
inspection of the particular type of
construction or operation requiring
special inspection.
During the permit approval
process, the owner or his agent is
required to employ the special
inspector under Chapter 17, Section
1701, of the CBC or Section 1704 of
the IBC. The registered design
professional is responsible for
preparing a statement of special
inspections and submitting it to the
building department. The purpose of
this document is to inform the building
department that a special inspection
agency or special inspectors have been
retained to perform all required special
inspections for the project. This letter is
usually required to be submitted before
the building permit is issued, and
includes the scope of the inspection, a
list of inspectors and their
certifications, and, when requested, the
inspectors rsums. In some instances,
the individual inspectors must
successfully complete an interview
with the building department in order
to obtain approval to perform special
inspections in their jurisdiction.
Where the Problem Begins
When shop or field welding for a
permitted project is performed without
the required inspection, we face the
issue of visual after the fact welding
inspections. When this situation occurs,
the special inspection agency usually
receives a frantic call requesting the
services of a welding inspector.
Sometimes this involves situations
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Feature
By Brad A. Bosworth
Visual After the Fact Welding Inspections
Welding inspectors need to be aware of the liability issues they may face when asked to
perform inspections late in the building process
Fig. 1 Sample of a visually
acceptable single-pass fillet weld with
poor fitup and lack of effective weld to
one member. (See Fig. 2.)
Fig. 2 Sample cross section of a
single-pass fillet weld with poor fitup.
Notice the lack of effective weld to the
vertical member.
Fig. 3 Sample single-V-groove weld
plate showing acceptable weld profile,
yet the weld has been slugged. (See
Fig. 4.)
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where weeks of welding have been
performed, or even entire projects have
been completed, where no call has
been made for welding inspections.
The contractor or responsible party
assumes the problem will be easily
resolved by simply having a welding
inspector come out and do a quick
visual inspection of all the completed
welds and provide a report that will
satisfy the building department.
This is where the problems begin.
Yes, a welding inspector can, in most
cases, conduct an after the fact
limited visual inspection of completed
welds. The inspector can provide a
limited report to protect himself or
herself and the inspectors employer
from liabilities for not performing the
inspections in conformance with the
codes. The inspector may even be able
to make the statement or statements
that the welds meet the minimum
visual requirements of the AWS D1.1,
D1.3, or D1.4 welding codes and
appear to conform to the proper size,
length, and locations as shown on the
project plans. However, without
committing the crime of perjury, the
inspector cannot provide a report to the
building official stating that the welds
were performed and inspected in
accordance with the California
Building Code, the International
Building Code, and the approved
project plans or construction
documents as applicable.
The following statement is
required under CBC, Section 1701.3,
Duties and Responsibilities of the
Special Inspector: The special
inspector shall submit a final signed
report stating whether the work
requiring special inspection was, to the
best of the inspectors knowledge, in
conformance to the approved plans and
specifications and the applicable
workmanship provisions of this code.
The IBC requires a similar statement
under 1704.1.2, Report Requirements.
When limited after the fact
welding inspections have been
performed, this statement cannot be
made because the special inspector was
not afforded the opportunity to perform
all of the required inspection tasks.
Following is a list of tasks that
cannot be verified after the fact. The
inability to verify any one of these
tasks, let alone all of them, could result
in catastrophic failure of a welded
structure. They are part of the
inspectors duties and responsibilities
and are outlined not only by the
building codes, but by the American
Welding Society Codes D1.1,
Structural Welding Code Steel,
D1.3, Structural Welding Code
Sheet Steel, and D1.4, Structural
Welding Code Reinforcing Steel.
Positive material identification prior
to fabrication (CBC and IBC)
Verification of welding procedures
and Welding Procedure
Specifications (AWS D1.1, D1.3,
and D1.4)
Verification of welder certifications
and positions qualified (AWS D1.1,
D1.3, and D1.4)
Verification of welding process,
electrode, and electrode storage
(AWS D1.1, D1.3, and D1.4)
Weld joint fitup (AWS D1.1, D1.3,
and D1.4)
Inspection of multipass fillet welds,
and partial-joint-penetration and
complete-joint-penetration groove
welds (AWS D1.1)
Assembly practice (AWS D1.1, D1.3,
and D1.4)
Observation of the welding (AWS
D1.1, D1.3, and D1.4)
Welder, welding operator, and tack
welder performance (AWS D1.1,
D1.3, and D1.4).
The integrity and quality of the
welds cannot be positively verified
without performing all required
welding inspection tasks. Even though
the overall appearance of the welds
may meet all of the visual acceptance
criteria, it cannot be assumed that they
meet the minimum quality
requirements of the code or minimum
design requirements specified on the
approved project plans. Without being
able to verify the actual weld joint fitup
prior to welding, there could actually
be existing root openings in excess of
that allowable by the welding code or
even welds that have been slugged
and welded over. Excessive root
openings in fillet welds or slugging a
weld to close a gap or fill in a weld
joint generally results in an inadequate,
ineffective weld size that could affect
the design performance of the
structure. These types of situations are
usually a result of poor workmanship
and are commonly found where
welding has been performed without
inspections. Workmanship like this
creates a condition where the visual
appearance of the completed weld may
appear adequate in size but in actuality
results in a severe lack of effective
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Fig. 4 Sample of cross section of
single-V-groove weld plate with rebar
slugged weld.
Fig. 5 Sample of visually acceptable
multipass fillet weld with poor fitup
and a slugged and bridged root
opening that has been welded over as
an example. (See Fig. 6.)
Fig. 6 Sample of the backside view
of a visually acceptable multipass fillet
weld with poor fitup and a slugged and
bridged root opening.
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weld to the connected members
Figs. 16.
When welding inspectors are
retained and directed to perform a
limited after the fact visual
inspection, and note in their report the
limitations related to performing such
an inspection, the liability will fall on
those who accept the limited reports.
Conclusion
An owner, owners representative,
contractor, architect, engineer, building
department inspector, or building
official should be aware of all
limitations including potential quality
problems, life safety issues, and
liabilities that may occur when asking
for or accepting after the fact
welding inspection reports. The
building authority and designated
inspectors and design professionals
should pay close attention to the
wording of the written reports. More
often than not, the reports will be
exclusionary and will not contain the
minimum code-required statement. In
these situations, ask yourself, Do I
want the liability?
References
1. California Building Code. 2001.
Chapter 17.
2. International Building Code.
2006. Chapter 17, Structural Tests and
Inspections.
3. AWS D1.1/D1.1M:2008,
Structural Welding Code Steel.
Miami, Fla.: American Welding
Society.
4. AWS D1.3/D1.3M:2008,
Structural Welding Code Sheet
Steel. Miami, Fla.: American Welding
Society.
5. AWS D1.4/D1.4M:2005,
Structural Welding Code
Reinforcing Steel. Miami, Fla.:
American Welding Society.
Erratum D15.1
D15.1/D15.1M:2007, Railroad Welding Specification for Cars and
Locomotives
The following erratum has been identified and incorporated into the current
reprint of this document.
P. 109, Table 11.2, footnotes c, e, and g need to be moved over to p. 110, Table
11.3.
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Inspection Trends / July 2010 32
The Answer Is
Q: Can ASME Section IX welder
qualifications be used and accepted
on AWS D1.1 projects?
A: The American Society for
Mechanical Engineers (ASME) Boiler
and Pressure Vessel Code and the AWS
D1.1, Structural Welding Code
Steel, are separate, stand-alone codes.
D1.1 usually will be referenced for
structural applications, and the ASME
Code will be referenced for pressure
piping and pressure vessels. Welder
qualifications for each project need to
be administered and documented to the
referenced code and standard. There
are many parameters for which AWS
and ASME overlap, but the welding
procedure specification (WPS) to
which each welder has tested needs to
address the applicable code(s) that the
WPS and welder will be qualified to
upon successful completion.
Q: I have just completed a ten-
month entry-level welding course.
Upon completion, I took a basic 1G
shielded metal arc welding plate test.
The inspector who oversaw this test
was talking about many things that
were foreign to the students such as
PQRs, WPSs, welding defects, and
measuring of welds. Does AWS offer
any type of training for either novice
or experienced welders on interfacing
with inspectors in the field?
A: (By Ken Erickson) Thanks for the
question. I am glad to receive feedback
from student welders entering the
welding industry. From my knowledge,
AWS does not offer training on this
subject that is geared toward welders. I
believe it would be beneficial if the
educational institutions that offer
welding courses would encompass
some credit hours toward topics such
as welding codes, working with
welding inspectors, evaluating welds,
and even understanding welding
documents. Having a local CWI
present this information to the students
and answer questions would also be
very informative. You might look into
joining your local AWS Section as it
may offer some Section meetings that
cover some of this information.
I have hired out and contracted for
many CWIs over the last 25 years.
CWIs who began as welders and have
been brought up through the industry
seem to adapt easily to this
environment and interact favorably
with the welders performing the work.
Any training or program that would
increase the welders knowledge and
working relationship with the CWI
would benefit both parties.
Q: My company just won a job
where we have to build watertight
tanks out of stiffened steel plate. The
spec requires that we do vacuum box
testing of the tank boundary welds.
It also requires that we qualify the
procedure; basically, we have to
prove that it can find leaks. Its my
job to write the procedure and get it
qualified. I dont have any problems
with the vacuum boxes, gauges,
setup, etc., but Im having a hard
time figuring out how I can prove it
all works. I need a leak for that and
were trying to avoid those. Any
ideas?
A: We would first ask the client who
may have a specific idea in mind on
how to qualify the procedure. If you
cannot or do not want to turn to the
client, there is something else you can
do. Based on some things you should
already know (the joint configurations,
the welding processes to be used, and
discontinuities that could be
encountered), you should be able to
construct what you need. For example,
you can make up a small assembly out
of two small pieces of Plexiglas or
steel plate. Put them together in the
appropriate joint configuration (butt, T,
corner, lap, etc.) and join them by an
appropriate method (gluing or
welding). The next part is important.
You need to leave an unglued or
unwelded area, and it is important that
this area is about the same size as the
typical flaw size you have estimated.
You now have your leak.
Obviously the assembly has to be
large enough for the vacuum box to fit
completely, but you also want to make
it small enough to be portable. By
placing the vacuum box on this
assembly and pulling a vacuum, you
can demonstrate to your client that the
procedure will find leaks due to
through-thickness discontinuities of the
size that could be found in actual
production welds.
A bigger benefit, though, is that if
the leak size is truly representative of
what you could find in production, you
can use this assembly to fine tune your
procedure by adjusting the negative
pressure, the concentration of bubble-
forming solution, etc., until you get the
setup that gives you the best bubble
formation. You then plug this
information into your procedure.
Q: I am a CWI working for a testing
company where I cover a lot of fab
shops, both large and small. In one
of the smaller shops (a pretty good
outfit overall) there is a welder who
is just not that good, wont take
advice, and gives me a hard time
whenever I find something wrong
with this persons work. I am out of
patience, and Im thinking about
By K. Erickson and C. Mankenberg
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disqualifying this welder, which is
allowed by paragraphs 4.1.3.1 and
4.32 of AWS D1.1:2008. The owner of
the testing lab I work for is advising
against this, though he is backing me
up and telling me to do what I feel is
right. What is your opinion?
A: You should disqualify a welder only
as a very last resort. Whenever you
publicly call into question the quality
of a persons work (and disqualifying
someone will make it public very
quickly) the person will probably take
it badly, their employer may take it
badly, the persons coworkers will take
it badly, etc. Instead of solving the
problem and making life easier for
yourself, it may instead make life more
difficult. The words you use to describe
the issue indicate to me that emotions
may be getting in the way of a
satisfactory solution to this issue.
We do not know any of the parties
involved here, so we cannot make any
judgments as to the character of the
people involved or as to the dynamics
of the relationships, but we think it
would be best if you proceed under the
assumption that like most people, this
welder wants to do a good job. If that is
so, then based on your description of
your inspection results, what this
welder needs is improvement. The best
way to achieve this is with some form
of positive correction, not something
punitive. Simply having this person
take another test, which is what is
required by the code provisions you
cite, would not provide this correction
and would therefore likely be seen as
punishment. Whats worse, it may be
seen as punishment for something
unrelated to weld quality, and were
sure youd agree that is to be avoided.
We recommend that you first
involve the shop supervisor, voice your
concerns using objective language, and
make a recommendation that the
welder receive appropriate training or
instruction. We suggest you have this
discussion with the welder present.
Provide only constructive criticism and
offer to help in whatever way you can
in order to be part of the solution.
Inspection Trends encourages
question and answer submissions. Please
mail to the editor (mjohnsen@aws.org).
KENNETH ERICKSON is manager of
quality at National Inspection &
Consultants, Inc., Ft. Myers, Fla. He is an
AWS Senior Certified Welding Inspector,
an ASNT National NDT Level III
Inspector in four methods, and provides
expert witness review and analysis for
legal considerations.
CLIFFORD (KIP) MANKENBERG is a
construction supervisor for Shell
International Exploration & Production,
Houston, Tex. He is an AWS Senior
Certified Welding Inspector and an ASNT
National NDT Level III Inspector
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