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Chances are, these handloaders are
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Remington primers have long been
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.22 C B Caps.... .. ..... . . . . .. . 1.20
DUTCH Mannlicher 6.5 mm.. .. .. . 6.00
SWEDISH 6.5 x 55 mm... . .. .... 6.00
7x57 mm Mauser... . ... . . . .. ... 5.00
7.35 Italian ... ... . . ..... ... ... 4.00
7.63 mm Mauser & Tokarev Pi stol. 4.00
7.65 mm Mannlicher Pistol ..... . 4.00
7.62 mm RUSSIAN Rifle. ..... ... 5.00
7.65 mm ARGENTINE Mauser... . . 5.00
.308 BALL. ..... . ... .. .... . ... 10.00
30 Cal. CARBINE... . ....... .. .. 6.00
30-40 KRAG ..... ........ . . .. 5.50
3006 Springfiel d (corrosive).... . 4.00
30-06 Springf ield (non-corrosive).. 5.00
303 BRITISH (non-corrosive).. .. . 5.50
8 mm FRENCH Lebel. . . . . . . . . . . 5.00
8 mm Mauser (non-corrosive) . 4.00
9 mm Steyr . . ................. 3.50
9 mm Luger (corrosive) . . . . . . . . 3.00
9 mm Luger (non-corr. boxer prim) 4.00
43 SPANISH ...... .... ... 7.50
45 Auto Colt.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 6.00
43 EGYPTI AN (new mfg. SP) per 20 7.50
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Garand Blank Firing attachment. . 5.00
Garand Combinati on Tool.. . . . . . . 1.25
Carbine Sling and Oiler . .. . . Set 2.00
.45 Auto Cl ip Pouchs . . . . . . . . . . .75
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Colt .45 auto holster . . ...... NEW 1.95
Colt .45 shOulder hol ster. . .. NEW 1.95
Col t 1917 holster. ..... . .. USED 1.95
Springfield Bayonet ... . . ... . . 3.50
Enfield No. 4 Bayonet.. . . ... .. . .95
Enfield Short Bayonet. .... . . .... .95
Russian Model 91 Bayonet ...... . .95
Swi ss Saw Tooth Bayonet .. .... .. 4.50
1917 Bayonet ..... . ... . ..... 3.50
Riot Gun Hand Guards for above . 3.50
Martini Rifle Socket Bayonet..... 2.50
.58 cal. Enfield C.w. Bayonet.... 3.50
WEBLEY flARE PISTOLS
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Percussion Caps . . $10.00 per M Rifle
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KNOW YOUR
LAWMAKERS
Congressman Edward J. Derwinski
4th District, Illinois
Throughout our nation's history, law-abiding citizens
have had the right to possess firearms for self-defense
and for participation in legitimate hunting activities.
Certainly, a firearm was an indispensable tool to the
pioneer, and this traditional American concept of indi-
vidual firearm ownership should be maintained.
I believe that the States, rather than the Federal Gov-
ernment, are best equipped to legislate for their citizens
regarding ownership and use of firearms. Since the
illegal possession and use of firearms continues, regard-
less of the stringency of the laws, standard crime pre-
vention activity is the best defense against lawless elements and their use
of guns.
Senat or Gale McGee
Wyoming
The history of our nation is the history of a people skilled in the use of
arms. We may not be called upon in the space age to defend our homes
with our own arms, but the right to possess those arms is still an integral
part of our individual rights and way of life. Our nation is one where
recreational hunting-traditionally the sport of royalty or the very wealthy
-is enioyed by people of all walks of life. The tragedy of the President's
assassination has led to demands that the ownership of firearms be somehow
restricted. But we must remember that it is people who do the killing and
other methods will be found if one means is eliminated. The end result of such
restrictions would be severe damage to both our traditional rights and our
recreational opportunities.
Congressman Ed Foreman
J 6th District, Texas
I feel the State of Texas, my state, needs no more
restrictive legislation regarding guns. In my opinion,
strict gun laws, of themselves, do not reduce crime. I do
believe a law-abiding citizen has the right to keep a
firearm in his home for and for participa-
tion in the shooting sports.
With regard to the guarantee of the right of U. S.
citizens to keep and bear arms, I believe we must do
everything in our power to preserve and protect the
rights guaranteed to the individual by the Constitution
and the Bill of Rights.
Congressman Melvin R. Laird
7th District, Wisconsin
In my own State of Wisconsin, the laws regarding the ownership and
of guns are both sufficient and adequate, in my view. In principle,
I am for strict gun laws as they pertain to concealed weapons, the registra-
tion of-sidea'rins, and so on.
On the other hand, it is my belief that those State laws are unnecessary
which requir,e the registration of hunting weapons that are obviously in-
tended for sport and that cannot be concealed on the person.
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GUNS AUGUST 1964
E. B. Mann ... .. Editor in Chief
R. A. Stei ndler ...... Managing Editor
Jerome Rakusan ... . . Associate Editor
Kent Bellah ........... Handloading
Dick Mi ll er . .... . ............. Trap
Graha m Bu rnside ..... . ... Collecting
Sydney Barker ....... . .. Art Director
Lew Merrell .. . ..... Ass't Art Director
Lee Salberg . . . . Advertising Director
Sanford Herzog .. Production Manager
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Carola Mandel, AI Schuley ....... . .... Skeet
Harry Reeves ............ Pistol Competition
Jim Dee .................... J unior Hunters
Dee Woolem, George Virgines ..... . Fast Draw
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THE COVER
German Zimmerstutzen, probably con-
verted from 8. 15x46R target rifle, uses
a t iny indoor plinking blank. Case loads
into a swing-out chamber near muzzle,
utilizing only 7%" of rifled ba rrel. Lead
balls weigh 8
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12 grains, are size of No. 2
shot. Lever cocks internal hammer, fi ring
pin runs through barrel to loading mech-
anism. Photograph by Wm. Schumaker,
Colville, Washington. Gun is owned by
Vern Workman, also of Colville.
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THIS ISSU E
AUGUST. 1964
Vol. x, No. 8-116
test report ...
S&W AI MAGNUM-BALLISTiCS . . ..... . .. . .. . . . ... .. ..... . Kent Bellah 16
S&W AI MAGNUM-FIELD TEST . . .... . . . .. . ... . ... . .... R. A. Steindler 19
RUGER'S RIM-FIRE RIFLE .............. .. .. .. .. .. ........ R. A. Steindler 21
legislation ...
THE PRO-GUN LAW TAKES SHAPE ..... .... ................. E. B. Mann 15
education.

IN PHOENIX KIDS LEARN TO SHOOT ............... Charles C. Niehuis 26
collectors ...
EARLY GUN TRADE OF THE WEST (Part Two) ........... James E. Serven 22
THE BSA RALOCK ......................... . .... . .. . ... . La rry S. Sterett 33
technical ...
THE CASE FOR THE CONVERSION UNITS . . .............. Neil L. Farrell 28
hunting ...
HONKER HOW-TO .... . ........................ ..... Col. Dave Ha rbour 24
WAIT ' EM OUT ........... . ......... . ...... . ............ Clyde Ormond 30
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KNOW YOUR LAWMAKERS ............... ..... ................. .... . 4
CROSSFIRE ......................... . ............................... 6
GUN RACK ............... ......... .. .. .. ......... .. ....... ......... 8
HANDLOADING BENCH .......... ..... ..... ........ ....... Ke nt Bellah 10
PU LL! ................. .. .. ........... .... ... .............. Dick Miller 32
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ........................... Graham Burnside 36
FRONTIER GUNSHOP .................... . ..... ... .... . James M. Triggs 39
SHOPPING WITH GUNS .............. . ........................ . ...... 54
THE GUN MARKET ............. .. ... . ........ . ................... 64
ARMS LIBRARY ..... .... .. ..... .. . . . ............................. 65
INDEX OF ADVERTiSERS . . .... . ...... . ................................ 66
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SCA Newsletter Scores
As a Shooters Club mcmber, I was dc-
lighted whcn I read the contents of the
second ncwsletter, just received. It addcd
an exclamation point to the thinking I have
been doing of late on the subject of all the
voices for anti-gun legislation, and the few
voices for sensible laws.
I wish to state how impressed I was with
Mr. Peterson's concise and intelligent recom-
mendations. They are without a doubt, the
most outstanding suggestions T have yet come
across. He is to be congratulated.
Richard Silage
New York, N.Y.
The Shooters Club Newsletter is only one
of many benefits enjoyed by members. Our
voice is growing stronger each day, and I
urge readers who are not members to join
the one agressive organization in the fight
against bad gun laws.- EolToR
Wants More on W ildcats
In your March issue you had a very good
article on the .2506 wildcat cartridge by
Robert J. Kindley. I enjoyed it very much
and would like to see more articles on
varmint hunting and wildcat cartridges. Keep
up the good work.
Fred Nadelman
Brooklyn, N.Y.
Dear Congressman Lindsay
Congratulations on making the "Slicks!"
I have just read your article entitled "Too
Many People Have Guns," in the February
1 issue of the "Saturday Evening Post."
You recognize the contention of the op
position which is to the effect that the pro
posed legislation would merely rcstrict the
honest citizen, and would not keep firearms
out of thc hands of criminal s. However, I do
not find in your article any attcmpt to refute
this claim.
How can we honestly claim the proposed
curtailment of shipping of firearms, by mail
or is important to the public
safety? Presumably there is some thought
that requiring a purchaser to meet the seller
of a firearm face to face will keep firearms
from the possession of undesirables. Honestly,
Mr. Lindsay! We can't even keep the juve-
niles from buying booze!
Is there any reason at all to suppose that
the assassin of our l ate President would have
any real trouble buying or stealing a gun
capable of carrying out his murderous in-
tent? Isn't it true that Mr. Oswald could
have truthfully answered any of the proposed
qualifying qucstions and purchased a gun
legally had thc proposed legislation been in
effect? Can any regulation or legislation
change the malignant hearts of men?
Firearms Control
J. Claire Shumake
Olney, Illinois
Our late Prcsident, J ohn F. Kennedy, died
solely because of a madman and not because
of a rifle, as our nation is being led to be-
l ieve. Firearms kill because man utilizes them
for such purposes while man does not kill
bccause of firearms. Firearms protected our
country in time of need and now protect our
homes and loved ones. Crime will cxist with
or without weapons as man is thc factor be-
hind crime.
The bulk of proposed firearms legislation
only assists crime, subversion and com-
munism. A disarmed society is easy prey for
all three. We must protect our heri tage and
our rights under the Constitution. "The right
to keep and bear arms" must be maintained.
Society should check criminals while the
police should not check honest citizens.
Pfc R. D. FitzPatrick
Fort Bragg, N_ C.
Something For Everyone
As a reader of your magazi ne for nearly
six months, and a recent member of the
Shooters Club of America, I wish to con-
gratul ate you on your fine work and offer
my best wishes for the future.
I enjoy the many fine feat urcs, especially
the coverage on t he latest military arms such
as the AR-15 and AR18. One thi ng I noted
is that you feature articles on all three of
the major sporting arms-rifles, shotguns,
and handguns- in nearly every issue. This
variety should keep even the most discerning
reader happy.
Most important, I think, is your concern
for our right to bear anns. I agree with most
of the points set forth in your "ProGun
Law," though I know it is impossible to out-
line a law that will satisfy evcryone. I am
sure a strong law can be drawn up and I
urge other sportsmen to join in supporting
organizations such as yours in getting this
legislation passed, and, in t he meantime,
warding off detrimental legislation.
May Cartoon
Erling Barsness
Glenwood, Minn.
Your cartoon "Any Day Now Comrade"
on page 62 of the May issue was a master-
GUNS AUGUST 1964
piece of underst atement. If you decide to
distribute reprints Qf it (and you should),
I would want to mail one to. every person I
know who considers that threat a laughing
matter.
Those who WQuid hide from the fact that
there are guns in the world, who would
sooner legislate them under the rug, are fools
of the highest Qrder. Those who hope and
pray that their sons and daughters will
never touch a gun, who will not allow a
firearm in their home, and who treat each
and every hunter as a sadist and a lunatic-
let's show them this cartoon.
Angier Article
Douglas Benson
Schenectady, New York
I enjoyed reading "The Time of the
Grizzly" by Bradford Angier (GUNS, May
1964) very much. More articles by him
would be most welcome.
Ralph F. Quarry
Spokane, Wash.
I agree with the editor's note Qn "The
Time of the Grizzly." Angier is an excep-
tional writer. His play with words and
phrases is very refreshing.
I also liked "Collectors Discover Spur Trig-
gers," by C. Eldon Shomber. COon gratulations
for a very worthwhile publication.
Fredrick J . Colbert M.D.
J ulian, California
With regard to the article by Bradford
Angier, I would continue to. use his material
if I were you. He is an excellent writer and
has a great deal of experience. I have read
most of his books and . find them most in-
teresting and informative.
James A. Wyatt
Forest Park, m inQis
Readers liked "The Time of the Grizzly"
very much, and responses ra:n 9 to 1 in favor
of it. Two readers felt that this was fiction
- which it was not - another complained
that not enough gun information was pre-
sented. Since the pro-Angier voice was so
strong, we shall present another of Brad's
articles in the not too distant future.-Editor
Q & A Correction
The Questions and Answers department in
the April issue had several questions regard-
ing the 7.65 mm Mauser. Since I consider
the answers incomplete, I thought I would
put some light on the subject.
First : 150 grain soft point ammunition
can be bought through Norma dealers in the
U.S. and from Globe Firearms, Ottawa,
Canada.
Second : The 7.65 mm is a good hunting
cartridge, but nQt with .30 caliber bullets
which give poor accuracy. The bullets to be
used are .303 caliber (.311") . Hornady's 174
grain (.312") bullets are very accurate with
38.5 grains Qf Hi-Vel or 42 grains of 4895.
Best accuracy obtained is with the DominiQn
CIL 190 grain (.311") round nOose bullets
and 39.5 gr. of Hi-Vel. These will deliver
three shot groups under one inch at 100
yards all day long.
Cases can be formed from .30-06 brass,
shortened to 54 mm.
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AUGUST 1964
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6.5 l ap, Soft Point. . .......... 12.50 per 100
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41 Swiss Rim Fi re............. 5.00 per 20
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Smm Mauser, Soft Point. . . ... . . 10.00 per 100
.303 British, Soft Point. .... ... _ 10.00 per 100
.30-'06 Soft Point. .. ... . .... . .. 10.00 per 100
32 Remington, Comm ..... .... . . 10.00 per 100
.30-06 Ba ll , Non-Corr. . . . . . . . . .. 5.00 per 100
OCM Carbine ACCESSORIES
30-Shot Carbine Mag, new ........ .. . $2.50 ea.
lS-Shot Carbine Mag, new.......... . .75 ea.
Two lS-Shot Carbine Mags, in pouch ... 1.75 ea.
2-Pocket new lS-shot mag pouch.. . . . .50 ea.
4-Pocket new 30-shot mag. pouch.... 1.50 ea.
New Carbine Zipper Canvas Case ..... 1.25 ea.
Carbine Sling & Oiler, new .... . ..... 2.00 set
S-Shot Carbine Magazine . ........ . .. 1.50 ea.
M-1 Carbine Bayonet & Sheath .... 4.50 per set
Minimum Order $5.00
Include Postage with Parcel Post items
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VIC'S FOR GUNS
2413-D (G) Galveston, Texas
Wad Column Indicator
Some things are so simple that you
wonder why nobody ever thought of them
before. One of these things, and we have
felt a need for it several times, was a means
for gauging how much of a wad column we
would need for a given hull. Despite all the
good resol utions of writing wad column
height down for all the hulls that we usc,
we just never got around to it. Pacific Gun-
sight Co., Box 4495G, Lincoln, Nebraska
68504, has the answer for that problem .
Their new Wad Column Indicator is simple
to use, determines wad column needed, tells
you if the load you have will allow a good
crimp. Right now, the Indicator is available
in 12 gao only, but other gauges will become
available shortly .
Gun Case
Chris De J onge, the fellow who makes
American Safety Gun Cases, 82 East 8th
Street, Holland, Mich., tells us that he has
further improved his fine gun cases. To
prove his point, he shipped us one a couple
months ago, and we gave it some of the
roughest treatment we could think of. The
model we received, # 64-11-52, is a two gun
case, that holds two scoped rifles easily.
Webbing fasteners assure non-moving of
gun in case, and the entire case is Poly-
Foam lined. The case is made of .080"
aluminum, has a full-length piano hinged
lid, and the suitcase-type catches hold the
lid of the case securely; it should be added
here that these catches bave provisions for
padlocks, and thus you can ship your guns
across the country or into Africa without
having to worry about pilferage. The Poly-
Foam lining does not collect moisture; the
tie-downs are more than adequate, even for
a heavy .458 that has been bounced around
in this case for over two weeks_ All in all,
the test case as well as several others that
we have seen, make excellent means to ship
or transport your guns, and the cases are
the cheapest insurance you can get for your
pet rifles or shotguns. Write Chris for a
folder-there are many styles and sizes to
choose from.
Crosman R evolvers
Last year, while covering the Camp Perry
pistol matches, I was introduced to one of
the first models of Crosman's 38T, the C02
pellgun that handles like the real thing.
Buil t ruggedly, the 38T that came to us for
tests did extremely well, and accuracy was
exceptionally good. Also available is the
Model 38C, a combat version of the target
gun, a little shorter and with slightly differ-
ent sights. Both guns shoot .22 caliber
pellets, can be fired single and double
action. The T model has a 6-inch barrel, the
C gun has a 3%-inch barrel, barrels have
button rifling, 6 land right hand twist, one
turn in 16 inches. The T gun has an adjust-
able trigger, while the combat gun has,
what Crosman calls, a "combat quality"
trigger pull.
Shooting from 25 feet on the indoor
range, our best single action group measured
1111.6, while the worst group went inch,
6 shots from a solid rest_ Shooting double
action, best group measured one inch, while
the worst group spread to 1% inches_ The
(Continued on page 12)
GUNS AUGUST 1964
Exclusive By Redfield
At .l ong last, you can own a scope with a Range Indicator buil t in! No more guessing at nce to target .
The famed Redfield Variables (with the non-magnifying reticles) are now available with Accu-Range-a device
which tells you the approximate distance to your target while you look through the scope!
THE AVERAGE DEER-SIZE ANIMAL MEASURES APPROXIMATELY 18" FROM SHOULDER TO BRISKET. SIMPLY FIT THAT
18" ZONE BETWEEN THE HORIZONTAL REFERENCE LINES AT THE TOP OF YOUR SIGHT PICTURE ... AND THE BOTTOM
FIGURE VISIBLE ON THE SCALE IS YOUR YARDAGE!
N OW Just fit the DEER Between the lines
Easy as ABC! And read the Range!
(A) With your scope at normal LOW power,
you spot " deer" . Deer doesn't fi t between
the ref erence li nes. Increase power,
ignoring scale . ..
(8) ... until " deer" (18" vital zone) fits be-
tween the lines. NOW READ THE SCALE!
(f igure visible at bottom = 400 yards)
(C) Using your regular non-magnifying,
centered reticle, change power t o suit
your preference, holdi ng according t o t he
known factors (range and trajectory of
your load) and SQU-E-E-EZE!
NOTE: THE WHOLE ACCU-RANGE OPERATION TAKES ONLY SPLIT SECONDS. ACCU-RANGEDOES NOT AFFECT A HUNTER'S ABILITY TO
SHOOT FAST WHEN NECESSARY . . FOR THE REGULAR NON-MAGNIFYING, CENTERED RETICLE IS ALWAYS READY FOR INSTANT USE.
OPTIONAL: A detachable turning knob is suppl ied with each Accu-Range.
NOTE: Init ial Accu-Range Variables scale 150 to 450-yards. However, 200
to 600-yards will be in later models due to demand from field use.
FOR AN EXCITING DEMONSTRATION SEE YOUR DEALER OR GUNSMITH
*Accu-Range is a Redfield trade name, and is an exclusive engineering development technieal changes
. which prevent conversion of Standard Redfield Variables to Accu-Range - Pat. applied for.
GUNS
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WRITE FOR FREE 1964 CATALOG.
AUGUST 1964
9
TRIGGER FINGER
OUT OF WORK?
GO BOW HUNTING!
10
Why limit yourself to gun season?
Take up bow hunting and enjoy
many more hours of your fa vorite
sport.
The pleasure of bow hunting is more
than just extra woods time. Bow
hunt ing takes you closer to the
target - gives your aim a nd your
instincts a good test.
Try it. It' ll sure take the itch out
of your trigger fi nger!

INC 0 R P 0 RAT E 0
Dept. G M, Pine Bluff, Arka nsas
Please rush free copy of the 1964
Ben Pearson catalog to a ddress below:
NAME.__________________ __
ADDRESS, _ ________________ _
CITY _____ ZONE_ STATE _ _
By KENT BELLAH
Game B uster Loads
The Rev. L. C. Smith, Bowie Texas, grew
up with guns. A handloader for 5 years, he
preaches the Word of God, and firmly be-
lieves in our right to own and use guns for
any legal purpose. Rev. Smith cleanly bagged
two nice whi tetails this past season. Both
were neck hits at about 60 yards with mild
loads. He used a .30-06 wit h 180 gr. Sierra
bullets backed with 52.0 gr. 4831 and CCI
200 primers. Rev. Smi th uses a Lyman Tru-
Line Jr. press.
Hunting was good nearly everywhere this
past season. If you've had a steady diet of
nothing better than prime beef sirloin, you'll
want to bring in a supply of good game
meat for a thrilling taste treat. A good friend
has a .3006 Sako with a Redfield 39X
variable. His favorite load is a 165 gr. Speer
bullet with 59.0 gr. 4350 and CCI 250 Mag-
num primers, chronographing at 2943 fps in
his rifle. The remarkably small variation is
only 31 fps for 10 rounds. Switching to
another type of primer gave 90 fps deviation.
His fi rst mul e deer was running uphill at
about 100 yards. The shot entered between
the shoulder blades ranging forward in the
brisket. The recovered bullet was beautifully
mushroomed to caliber .55, proof of ample
power. The same load dropped a whitetail in
his tracks with a high lung shot, shattering
ribs on entrance, and making an exit hole
large as a teacup_ His companion bagged
another buck with this load.
This load is good for nearly any game
with a decent hit. Accuracy is superb. My
friend bagged 3 elk and 6 deer with it, all
clean kills_ His two sons both bagged nice
mule deer with it.
A friend took an 8 point whitetail at
about 50 yards with a shoulder hit from a
cal. .44 Magnum Ruger revolver. He backed
a Speer 225 gr. j acketed H.P. with 23.5 gr.
2400 and CCI 350 Magnum primers. Per-
formance was fast and clean. He uses the
same load in his Ruger .44 Carbine "com-
panion gun" for game beyond the range of
his ability with a revolver.
Dale Linn made clean, one shot kills on
two nice whitetaiLs with his 8 x 57 Mauser.
Dale uses a 125 gr. Speer with 52.0 gr. 3031
and CCI 250 Magnum primers. It's a grain
more than listed in Speer's excellent #6
Reloading Manual, but pressure isn' t ex-
cessive. Groups average near l.0" at 100
yards, excellent for a fat, short bullet. Dale
uses it on varmints and deer. He says, "You
don't have to hit anything twice!" With
velocity barely under 3200 fps, the bullet
has adequate penetration.
Mrs. Allen (Joy) Watson bagged her
first big game, a gorgeous 11 point whitetail.
Joy had practiced plinking tin cans at 100
yards with a Sako .222, and found shooting
was fun. Her husband advised her to take a
neck shot with her K-8 Weaver glass on the
varmint rifle with WoW factory ammo. She
made a dead center hit for an instant kill
at 83 yards. After visiting us, Joy found
handloading was easy and good fun. Next
season she will have a more potent rifle, and
she and Allen will probably bring home
venison with their own loads. That will be
mor e thrilling, and the venison will surely
taste better.
If all Hull Fillers & Cap Busters intro-
duced our fascinating hobby to 3 non-re-
loaders, and they introduced it to 3 more
we'd be a nation of happier people and
better shooters. Then no politician would
dare suggest anti-gun legislation. The result
would be better people in public office and
better government. Handloaders, as a group,
are the finest citizens I know.
Exhibition Shooter D. L. Cooper bagged
a nice whitetail with 1 :12 twist custom .270.
Cooper used a 100 gr. Speer backed with
50.0 gr. 4895 and CCI 250 Magnum primers,
at 3300 fps. That isn't flat out, but accuracy
is fine. It made a 4" exit hole in the right
ham of the running buck, that never knew
what hit him. Don't sell light bullets short
for deer, if velocity is adequate.
Newton Smith, Cuero, Texas, fired one
shot at a deer from 175 yards. He cleanly
killed 3 does! Three companions confirmed
his story. The unintentional bag was due to
inadequate velocity with a heavy, deep pene-
trating 180 gr. bullet in a .30-06 factory load.
Earl Hess, Muenster, Texas, got two run-
ning bucks in Utah. His load was a 139 gr.
Norma bullet in a 6.5 x 55 Norma case with
46.6 gr. Norma 204 powder. Both were clean,
one-shot kills.
Elton Teague clobbered a buck at 100
yards broadside with a Browning _243 and
K-6 Weaver scope. He used 44.0 gr. 4831
and CCI 250 Magnum primers behind a
105 gr. Speer Round Nose, hitting high and
center. The buck's legs simply went out
from under him, and Elton had a supply of
good venison.
Master Shooter Charles Woodford, Long
Grove, Iowa, shoots a S & W 1955 Target .45
revolver. His 50 yard load is a 180 gr_ H & G
#130 bullet with 3.8 gr. Bullseye and CCl
300 primers. The slow fire stage put him far
enough ahead to win the aggregate and set
a .45 r ange record at Decar, Iowa. He uses
(Continued on page 49)
GUNS AUGUST 1964
GUARANTEE
NEW FAMED FIREARMS INTERNATIONAL
121620 OR 410 GAUGE MATADOR DOUBLE SHOTGUNS!
Check these quality Matador fea- Orde r # Ga. Chamber Barre l Choke Weight Lgt h. Price
tUres. Sel ective automatic ejectors; C22-2192 12 23/
4
" 30" M&F 7 lj4, 47" $ 11778
C22-2191 ]2 2
3
/4. " 28" M&F 7 1/4 45" $117:78
receiver; gold inlay; individually mounted firing pins: C22-2190 16 2
3
/4" 28" M&F 63/4 45" $117.78
checkered French Walnut stock; Beavertail forearm. C22-2189 20 23/4'" 28" M&F 61/2 45" $107.78
Klein' s scoops the market to p urchase balance of Maw- C22-2188 410 3" 28" F&F 51/2 45" $107.78
dor factory P!oduction. Choose From Big Sel e ction! C22-2187 410 3" 2 6" M&F 5th 43" $107.78
Klein's Low Price!
$107
78
410 &
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A prIce $0 low It
puts a tine quality
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reach of EVERYONEI
Famed Firearms International MATADOR! 10 Gauge Magnum Double
Perfect for ducks, geese, fox, etc. Shoots either 27/8" or 31/2" magnum shells. 32" full choked barrels Engraved receiver $
double safety underlocks. checkered French Walnut st9ck, beaverta il foreann, 10 gao only has double trigger. Auto e jectors: 127
78 49" overall. 91/2 lbs. C22-2187. Brand new, first Quahty. KLEIN'S LOW PRICE . _ ...
NO MONEY DOWN
CASH or CREDIT
E20-73. Shotgun shells #2 OT #4 shot. State choice. B ox of 25 . $7.25
Manufacture r 's Writte n

Famous Daly Shotguns feature Single
selective inertia type trigger a nd
automatic selective ejectors. Exclu-

steel banel s, tapered ventilated rib.
Select wal nut stock with fine check-
ered semi-pistol grip and forend.
Heat treated box lock action.
NEW REMINGTON 600 CARBINE
18112" barrel , 14" stock. Blade ramp
front Sight, notched rear sight ad
59995
D23-1780 ... . . ...... .
D23-2221 .. 222 caL .. . ... . $99. 95
No shipping or cha1'DCS on above.
C23-2225. 308 cal. Carbine with
Tasco 21f2-8X }If CH scope. $126.88
C23-2224 .. 222 Cal. Carbine with
Tasco 3-9X 1" CH scope ... $134.88
NEW WEATHERBY .22 AUTO
5-shot. 22 L .R.; seminuto or singl e
shot with thumb operated change
lever. 26" barrel, 42:Y4
11
overall. Wt .
6 Ibs. Polish!d.. fully checkered Wal -
nut stock. Three-way folding rear
$9950
dia. 4X Fleet..
wood scope and mount .... $105.95
C20-1168. With I" dla. 4X F l eet-
wood Scope and mount $123. 50
o!er!:i l
J6({
Foolproof safety. Turned down bolt.
American Walnut stock, with sling
swivels. All milled parts.
All Enfiel ds NRA very good or better
M1917 Rifle $29
78
made by Eddystone . .. . .
C20-34. Made: by Remington or by
Winchester .. .. . ...... $34.95
C20-1297. M1917 by Rem. or Win.
$44.95
C20-1293. M1917 by Rem. or Win.
side mounted installed with big 1 "
ihgfc: $64.88
C20-669. Leather laceon cheek
piece and web sUng ...... . . $3. 95
E20-1000. 30/06 metal jacketed
ammo. 120 rounds ......... $7. 20
U.S. M-l GARAND RIFLE
Famous World War II 30/06 cal
iber semiauto rifle. 8 shot, 24" brl.
42" overall. AdJusLable sight. Ex-
actly as issued with ori ginal click

$77
99
C24- 1716. In ULike New" condi
tion. Certified perfect . . $86. 99
Military No. 5 MKI Royal Enfiel d.
10 shot, bol t action. 18" barrel. Wt.

sport- $2978
C23-1600 . . ...... ... .
C23-1601. Carbine with 4X 20mm
scope, mounted . ... 539.78
E20-l339. .303 British Military
A m'J"no. peT 100 1'oun.ds $7.50
Orde r # Ga. Cha mbe r Ba rrel Choke Wt.
D22-2193 1 2 3" 30" F&F 8


022-2198 20 3" 20
u
IC&M 6
D22-2199 1 2 23/4" 26" S&S 7 1/8
D22-2200 20 3" 26" S&S 6 $295.00
Guns below are Daly wide 1'ib t1'ap models with full pistol
grip Monte Carlo stock and t rap specs.
D22-2201 ] 2 2:%" 30" F&F 8 $335.00
D22. 2202 12 2:)/," 30" M&F 8 $335.00
No Shipping OT C1'edit Charges On Above Guns
3 year guarantee! Forged receiver.
12 groove "Sh a l Kut" barrel de-

ger housing assembly. Sel ect wal nut
stock. Wt. 5lh lbs ., 36" overa ll , 18"
pull, $7778
C23-859. carbfne only ...
C23-2218. Carbine with Tasco 4X
1" CH scope. mounted $99.78
C23-2220. Carbine with Tasco 3-9X
I" elI variable scope, mtd. $114.78
024-1341. Carbine as above but

ish select wal nut stock. No
ping or credit cha1'ges . $119.95
024-2234. Carbine as above buL all
v.mh aa
grained walnut stock. No shipping
or c1'edit charges . . ... $149.95
E26-55. Hunting Ammo $5.00 pe r 50
rds; E26 2144. Metal jacketed ball
ammo, 100 rds. $7. 95 ; A27- 16"4S.
1 5 shot magazine, new $1.50 ea.;
827-1646. 30 shot Magazine $4. 95
ea.
U.S. SPRINGFIELD M1903-A3
30/06 CAL. MILITARY RIFLE
All w i th high number nickel receiv
ers, milled working parts. Made in
Gov't arsenals-not commercially as

Great f or sporting use. 431/4" over
a ll, 8.69 lbs. NRA Excel $39
78 l ent condition. Rifle only.
C24-1789 .... . .
C24 2226. Rifle with Tasco 4X 1"
CH scope on top deinchable mounts,
mounted, ready to shoot .... $69. 78
C242227. Rifle with Tasco 21/2 -
8X 1" CH scope on top detachable
mounts, mounted ready to s hoot .
. .. ... . . . .. . ....... $73. 78
E261000. 120 MS. 80106 ammo.
........... _ .......... . $7.20
The never-again to be duplicated
creation of the great Georg Luger.
Guaranteed. completely serviceable .
and in NRA Very GOOd cond ition.
Rebl ued and refinished. 83A" overall.
Wt. 30 oz. 8- $49
95
E24-2229. Luger P-08 ...
E26-2092. 9mm Ammo. 100 rds .
.. .. .. $5.00
B272285. Issue type holste1'. B1'and
new . . $8.50
FAMOUS
MILITARY
M WALTHER
P-38 AUTO
Replaced Pistole Modle '08 by the
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8
1
12" overall , 40/4" barrel, $34
95 wt.- 34 oz., 8 shot .
E242228. NRA Good ...
E241698. NRA Excellent .. . $39.95
E262092. 9J1.1M Ammo. 100 1'ds.
................ $5.00
B24-2235. I ssue holster, new. $8.50
NEW! KLEIN'S BOLT ACTION
30/06 CAL. HI-POWER RIFLE
Made by famed Firearms InLernation

cheekpiecc and fluted comb. Has
\Villiams "Guidc" sight adjustabl e

adjust."lbJe Sako trigger with sliding

action. Brand new. Guaranteed for
one year by Firearms International.
Al so available in .243 Win., .270
Win.
Low Price! State choice. $9988
C23-2213. Rifle Only ....
C23-2214. Rifle with Tasco 4X 1"
CH scope, mounted . ...... $122. 88
C232215. Rifle with Tasco 2 1/28X
I" CH Variable scope, mLli. $126.88
C23-2216. Rifle with Tasco 3-9X 1"
CH Variable scope, mtd . ... $134. 88
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The finest lot of Enfield # 1 Mark
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well , permits fast handling. Rear
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Turneddown bolt handle, solid brass
butt plate. 10-shot removable clip.
Sling swivel s. 441y2" overall. .303
$19
18
C20-992. ENFIELD RIFLE with new
Fleetwood 4X Scope, 3/4" dia.,
mounted .... ... .. .... $27.88
C20993. Rifle with new Tasco 4X
scope, 111 dia., mW. Strap included.
.. ... ................ $44.88
E201339 . . 303 British Military Am-
mo. peT 100 rounds. _ $7.50
BROWNING
.32 AUTO
PISTOL
Famous "Fabrique National e" Bel -
gium made'. Automatic safety func-
tions . when magazine is removed. 7"
l ong, 41/2" barrel. Wt. 25 oz. Ca
pacity 9 32ACP cartridges. Dlued
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fixed notch rear sight. $24
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24-2236. NRA Good ..
24-1410. NRA Exccllent $29.95
26-1411 .. 32 ACP 71 gr. M.C.
Cartridges, 100 rounds .. $8.00
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THE GREAT
WEATHERBY
IMPERIAL SCOPE ROBBERY
It was a mystery that made history.
And it happened last year.
U
'ke phantom smoke arising from a
dead campfire, Weatherby Imperial
Scopes were appearing magically in
the advertisements of national magazines
(and in stores) where they had never been
before. And they were priced so low it led
you to believe they were obtained as prizes
in Cracker-Jack boxes. Of course they disap-
peared faster than a buck in a tamarack
swamp. {Imagine what would happen if the
Crown Jewels went on sale in a dime store.}
As you know, Roy Weatherby believes in
the fine art of hunting. And he also holds
that every serious hunter should have a
Weatherby Imperial Scope with its exclu-
sive binocular-type focusing and precision
optics for greater luminosity. But not to the
extent that he was altogether delighted to
see products as superior as the Weatherby
Imperial being sold below cost ... at a
profit to people who weren't even Weath-
erby Dealers. There was a bear in the barn-
yard somewhere. So we started tracking
down the mysterious "shipments:'
Back in the long shadows of the warehouse
there were telltale, empty spaces. The
sturdy cases, carrying the precision-made
Imperials, were missing. Not just one or two
scopes had skipped ... but hundreds of
them. Vanished! The hounds lit out on the
trail, found the "fence" and tracked down
the felons.
Understandably, a great many hunters
profited by being able to buy the incompa-
rable Weatherby Imperial Scope at a price
that was, to say the least, philanthropic.
{When you steal something, it's not hard to
sell it at a profit.} But we think hunters
would be more than willing to pay what a
Weatherby Imperial is worth. After all, you
can't make an Imperial with all its features,
such as dual-dial adjustments for windage
and elevation, for less than the starting price
of $69.95. Especially when you consider the
Lifetime Guarantee against defects, backed
by Roy Weatherby himself. {Naturally, he
can't guarantee any of the hi-jacked scopes.
He didn't deliver them to an authorized
Weatherby Dealer.}
We grant that a Weatherby Imperial Scope
is enough of a prize to tempt thieves. But
we disapprove of this method of distribu-
tion. We'd rather you bought one the regu-
lar way ... from your Weatherby Dealer.
This way, the guarantee is good, your dealer
makes a profit ... and Roy Weatherby can
afford to keep producing this most wanted
{even stolen} telescopic sight in the world.
See all five models at your Weatherby
Dealer. Write for free literature to: Weath-
erby, Inc., 2781 East .Firestone Blvd., South
Gate, Califo-rnia. In Canada, Canadian
Sauer, Ltd., 103 Church St., Toronto,
Ontario, Canada.
The Weatherby Imperial ... Still a "Steal" at $69.95
(Continued from page 8)
Crosman Powerlet does fire 45 shots, but
we found that accuracy begins to fall off
after the 35th shot. Since Powerlets are
inexpensive, replacing one of them is well
worth the few cents it will cost you in the
course of an evening's s s ~ i o n of tar,get
shooting in your basement. One item worth
noting in the Crosman line is their new
leather holster for these guns. This holster
can be changed from right hand shooting
to southpaw gunhandling in a few seconds;
available for both models, it retails for only
$6.98. The guns, and you can get yours from
your local dealer, retail for $24.95.
CCI Target Ammo
CCI of Lewiston, Idaho, has some new
.22 ammo. They call it "Target," and the
stuff has standard .22 velocities. George
Fairchild shipped us a thousand rounds and
we had so much fun shooting it, we ran
through one box of 500 in one day. It did
not make any difference what gun we used,
plinker or target gun, handgun or rifle,
semi-auto or single shot, the groups were
excellent. At one time we burned up a lot
of .22 fodder every week in four position
shooting, but we got away from the sport.
When the ammo arrived, I dug out my
Remington Model 37, and proceeded to
shoot the highest scores with the CCI ammo
I have ever been able to manage. That CCI
ammo is good, and we just ordered a couple
of more cases- going back into the target
game come fall.
Hodgdon's Loading Data
The latest, at least as of the moment,
loading data booklet # 18, from B. E.
Hodgdon, Inc., Shawnee Mission, Kansas,
contains some new data for Bruce's powders.
It is worth the fifty cents since some of
the data cannot be found anywhere else, and
Bruce's data can save you a lot of work in
developing loads for your favorite rifle,
handgun, or shotgun.
Rifleman's Coat
Bob Allen, boss of the Gun Club Outdoor
Sportswear, Box 477G, Des Moines, Iowa,
talked to me about this coat way back last
year at Vandalia. He was designing a new
rifle coat, and would we like to see how
well it stacked up? We got an advance
model, and have used it a great deal. The
"Top Shot" rifleman's coat resembles in
some aspect's the well-known German coats
in that it is fully adjustable in front, on
the sides, and also on the sling-arm sleeve.
We especially liked the leather pad on the
(Continued on page 60)
12 GUNS AUGUST 1964
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GUNS AUGUST 1964
The Pro-Gun La""
Takes Shape!
By E. B. MANN
R
ECENT DISCUSSIONS WITH LAWMAKERS from several states indicate that
the question now is, not "Will any Senator or Congressman present our law
to the United States Congress?" but "Which one of those willing to present it can
do so to its best advantage?"
Meanwhile, we are taking full advantage of the stalemate (current as this is written)
over the Civil Rights Bill to perfect the wording of our pro-gun proposal-to foresee
(and forestall if possible) the procedural difficulties it may encounter-and to prepare
support for it in addition to that of its eventual sponsors. If all this seems slow to
you, we can only say, "It seems slow to us, too." But we are learning that a good
gun law, like Rome, cannot be built in a day, or in a month. Here, one false step
in procedure, one mis-statement of meaning, could defeat the entire program. After
all, this is an old war. If it could have been won quickly, others would have won it
before we started.
We have learned, too, the truth of the old adage that "you can' t please all of the
people_" Our mail concerning this proposal has been so heavy that it has been
impossible even to acknowledge half of the letters-for which we hope you will
accept this as a blanket apology. Easily 95 per cent of those letters have been 100
per cent enthusiastic. A few, far fewer than we expected, have chided or derided
us, calling us "hopeless optimists," "fools, blundering into matters better left to those
with longer experience," and even one or two less-quotable names. Optimists we are,
and fools we may be; but as to experience, we can boast a pretty impressive record
of our own when we add up service "hash-marks" of the men who are working
with us. But-and let this be printed bold for emphasis:
We want all the help we can get! We have already welcomed many who have
ANNOUNCEMENT
Because the voices of legislators who favor anti-gun laws are strong, we would
like to give strength to the voices of those who would back a pro-gun law. Let us
know of any candidates for a state or federal legislative office in you area who
have voiced pro-gun opinions. We will give added support to their stand by
publishing their statements in upcoming, pre-election issues of GUNS Magazine.
volunteered to help us. We invite, we urge, all men and all groups with experience
in these matters and with dedication to this cause to join us, to advise us, to support
us in whatever manner possible. We invite, we urge, every shooting organization in
America, every gun and outdoor publication in America, every sportsmen's group
in America, to advise and support us. We need the advice and help of their leader-
ship; we need the support of their members-and of all .,hooters. This is not a cause
that can be won by anyone group alone; that has been proved. But it can be won-
and its victory will be a victory for all shooters. Conversely, its defeat will not be
ours alone; it will be one more .set-back (to add to a long record of set-backs) to the
cause of shooting in America.
But, you need not be a "wheel" in any organization, any group, to strike a blow
for gun-law victory. Reform of gun laws at the federal level is the prime objective--
but not necessarily the primary objective. We warned you long ago that federal law
cannot dictate to the states as to their police powers; the states themselves must do
that. Why not find a sponsor in your state legislature who will present our pro-gun
law in your state--and then recruit every shooter in your state to support it? One
state adoption on the record at the time our bill is presented (Continued on page 58)
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41
SPECIFICATIONS
Length Overall Finish S&W Bright Blue or Nickel
11% in. with 6 in. barrel.
9% in. with 4 in. barrel
Weight 48.oz. with' 6 in. barrel
Sights Front: % in. S&W Red Ramp
Rear: S&W Micrometer Click
Caliber 41 Magnum
Barrel 4, 6, 8% in;
Hammer Target type
Trigger Target type
Frame "N" Magnum
No. of Shots 6
Ammunition .41 Magnum
Jacketed High Velocity or
lead Standard Velocity
Price . $140.00 Retail
Federal Excise Tax Included
Sight adjustable for windage and . elevation.
White outline notch
Stocks Goncalo Alves Target type
Delivery On a priority basis
6 in. first 4 in. second 8% in. third
Starting April 1st., 1964
See your dealer
COMPARATIVE BALLISTICS
.45 ACP
Bullet Diameter ..... .4515 in.
Bullet Weight ......... 230 gr.
Bullet Type ........... FMC
Barrel ' ................... 5 in.
Muzzle Velocity ..... 850 f.s.
Muzzle Energy ....... 369 f.p.
41 MAGNUM J.
Bullet Diameter ...... .410 in.
Bullet Weight .......... 210 gr.
Bullet Type ...... ...... J.S.P.
Barrel ....... .. ........... 8% in.
Muzzle Velocity ...... 1500 f.s.
Muzzle Energy ........ 1049 f.p.
.44 MAGNUM
Bullet Diameter .. ... .430 in.
Bullet Weight ... ...... 240 gr.
Bullet Type ........... loG.C.
Barrel ......... : ......... 6'(, in.
Muzzle Velocity 7.... 1470 f.s.
Muzzle Energy ..... .. 1150 f.p.
, .41 MAGNUM L
Bullet Diameter ...... .410 in.
Bullet Weight .......... 210 gr.
Bullet Type ........ .... loG.C ..
Barrel .................... 8% in.
Muzzle Velocity ...... 1050 f .s.
Muzzle Energy ........ 515 f.p.
.44 SPECIAL .38 SPECIAL
Bullet Diameter ....... .431 in. Bullet Diameter ........ .359 in.
Bullet Wei ght ........... 246 gr. Bullet Weight .... ........ 158 gr.
Bullet Type ............. L. Bullet Type .............. L.
Barrel ..................... 6'12 in. Barrel ....... ............... 6 in.
Muzzle Velocity ....... 755 f.s.
Muzzle Energy ......... 311 f.p.
Muzzle Velocity ........ 855 f.s.
Muzzle Energy .......... 256 f .p
.357 MAGNUM
Bullet Diameter ...... 359 in.
Bullet Weight .. ....... . 158 gr.
Bullet Type ............ L.
Barrel .................... 8% in.
Muzzle Velocity ...... 1400 f.s.
Muzzle Energy ........ 690 f.p.
GUNS AUGUST 1964
Magnum
BALLISTICS
REPORT
S
MITH & WESSON'S NEW Model
57 revolver in .41 Magnum cali-
ber looks much the same as their .44
Magnum. It's built on the same "N"
frame, finished in S&W bright blue,
and comes with target type trigger,
hammer, stocks, and sights.
Remington introduced the .41 Mag-
num cartridge in two loads; a 210
grain lead gas check bullet, which
starts at a listed 986 fps from a 6 inch
revolver, for 450 fp muzzle energy,
and a 210 grain jacketed Soft Point
bullet which is listed at 1342 fps for
836 fp energy. This leaves the Reming-
ton .44 Magnum, which was introduced
in 1956, as the most potent handgun
round. The muzzle energy of the .41 is
nearly as good as the excellent new
Remington .357 S.P. load that gives
845 fp at 1550 fps-the most potent
.357 factory load ever made.
The new .41 Magnum is a true
.410", while the .44 is actually .429",
only .019" larger. A .41 Magnum can
be fired in a .44, so be careful !
Actual velocity of the Hi-V .41 load
in our 6" revolver is 1399 fps, 57 fps
more than listed, but it will probably
vary with different lots. It's potent
enough for any game that should be
hunted with a handgun. Power is con-
siderably less than a .44 Magnum,
which can be handloaded to equal .41
Magnum ballistics. I don't think the
.41 is apt to be popular with hand-
loaders, or anyone who wants ultimate
power. A .357 has bagged all U.S.
game, and most sportsmen or law en-
forcement officers don't want or need
more power.
The history of the .41 center fire car-
tridge started with the .41 Long Colt,
made for Colt's 1873 New House and
1877 Thunderer revolvers. These had
outside lubed "heel" bullets of .410,
later changed to .386 inside lubed,
with a hollow base that expands to fill
the grooves.
The .38-40 (actually a .401) was
popular for Winchester's 1873 rifle and
GUNS AUGUST 1964
By KENT BELLAH
Colt's 1875 revolver. It can be loaded
to about .41 Magnum ballistics, and
the excellent 200 gr. jacketed Soft
Point bullets are quite similar to the
.41 Magnum. The old .38-40 guns have
bagged every type of U.S. game the
past 90 years. The new .41 is, for
handloaders, only a modified version
of what we have had for generations.
But I like it better than the .38-40 be-
cause it's new.
Wildcatters were over 40 years
ahead of arms makers with a potent
.40-41 hot-shot on a straight case!
"Pop" Eimer made a dandy in 1922,
on a .401 Winchester Self-Loading case
cut to 1.250". It was a "Wildcat of
Merit," especially after 2400 powder
came out in 1932. Some .401 Eimer
cartridges I loaded in 1952 shot pretty
well in the new .41 S&W. Shells can be
reloaded in either .41 Magnum or .401
Eimer dies. Both use a .30-30 shell
holder and Large Pistol primers.
I advised Colt's in 1955, that I could
make a more potent .40-41 than the
Eimer. They offered to supply a gun
to my specifications, but were not in-
terested in the gun commercially, since
they couldn't see any advantage in this
caliber. I refused their kind offer, for
I could see no reason to work with a
caliber that wouldn't be sold commer
cially. I also tried to get Jim Harvey to
Above: Bull ets f or .41
Magnum are (L t o R) 2 10
gr. H&G; Remington SP;
210 a nd 175 gr. C-H;
factory 200 gr. 38-40.
Left: Headstamp on new
.41 case and H&G bullet
with hollow point nose
c ut f or fa st expa nsion.
Left to right: Author's H&G bullet and load; Lyman bullet and load; two
wildcats, the .40 I Eimer and .403 Clay, and a .41 Long Colt cartridge.
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The S&v.t .41 Magnum
produce .4041 wildcats commercially
in 1952. Jim couldn't see any potential
profit or advantage over a .44 Special.
I agreed, but some people want any
product that is called new.
The .4,01 Boser of 1938 also used the
old .401 W.S.L. case, cut to 1.218". A
popular load for this was 1 7 gr. 2400
and 160 gr. cast bullets, but some
ignition problems arose that would
have been cured with CCI Magnum
primers.
In 1959, Fred Clay, of the Panama
Gun Works, designed a .403 Clay, on
a 1.270" long .3030 case, in a .433
chamber. The .41 Remington Magnum
and .401 Herter Magnum nearly dupli.
cate the Clay. While our .403 loads
shoot well in a .41 Magnum, a .41
won't quite chamber in a Clay.
Herter's claim they finalized their
.401 Herter Magnum in 1961, 'on a
1.285" case, which could be fired in
a S&W .41 Magnum. Herter's also
stated they had developed a rimless
version for auto pistols. They list their
. 401 Herter Magnum revolver, and
similar ones in .357 and .44 Magnum
caliber, at only $41.95, compared to
$140 for a S&W. According to the
catalog, all parts of the gun are the
finest German steel, hand-polished,
hand-lapped, hand-blued and hand-
fitted by German craftsmen. These are
5 shot revolvers to eliminate bolt cuts
in the thin chamber walls.
The fi ction that will be published
about the S&W .41 Magnum and .401
Author's H&G bullet (top), before
and after penetrating a '/s inch steel
plate and 2 inches of pine. Same
bullet . (lower photo) expands to %
inch in -moist sand, IQaded with a
hot charge of . 2400 pistol powder.
<
Power of the H&G bullet and 2400
load is shown by a quart can which
exploded at all the seams and split
at point where the bullet entered.
Herter Magnum would make Baron
von Munchausen smile. Do they have
some mystic powers? Unfortunately,
they do not. The .41 Magnum is a good
caliber, but its announcement is anti
climatic since the powerful .44 Mag-
num came out .
Hensley & Gibbs made us a beauti-
ful custom 4cavity, .410 mould. The
210 gr. semi-wadcutter is not my de-
sign, but a modification of the fine
1908 Heath design, also used for Ly-
man's 429336. Heath has been honored
since his death by having his design
copied; generally modified, as mine is,
by changing one of the two grease
grooves to a crimp groove. Some claim
the famous Heath design as their own!
We worked up charges with bullets
cast with 2 parts IBA #4 and one
part IBA #7, with a hardness equiva-
lent to 1: 15 tinlead on our lead tester.
I sized the bullets to .410 in a Lyman
sizer with H&G dies, and loaded with
RCBS dies and their No.2 Shell Holder
head. Our cases ran 1.269 to 1.283 in
length. We found it best to use a heavy
crimp with 2400 and AL-8 loads, to
hold bullets against recoil, a light
crimp with Unique, and none with
Bullseye.
As we do not yet have a .41 test
barrel, and accuracy was determined
with a K4 Weaver scope in a Buehler
S&W mount, which works well with a
2-hand hold on a rest. Suggested loads
gave good groups that compare with
the same powders and similar bullets
in a .44 Magnum.
We proof fired the H&G bullet with
22.5 gr. 2400, which is not a shooting
load. Maximum is 20.5 gr, starting at
1394 fps, and developing 906 fp muz-
zle energy, with CCI 350 Magnum
primers. Maximum deviation was 67
fps. For a plain base case bullet this
velocity is too fast, and the best charge
is 19.5 gr.
What these do to jackrabbits
shouldn't happen to a dog! They pene-
trate six %" pine boards. Quart cans
of oil explode like a bomb, coming
apart at the seams and where there
are no seams. Slugs blast through V8"
steel plates and a 2" x 12" backing
board like cheese. Remington's .357
S.P. load did the same thing, ripping
a hole about the same size. Fired in
fine, moist sand, the .41 pill expands to
about %, ", while the .357 Remington
S.P. load (Continued on page 63)
GUNS AUGUST 1964
The S&W
.41 Magnum
The .357 Magnum
By R. A. STEINDLER
N
ow THAT THE S&W Model 57
-the .41" Magnum-is available
and we know what the ballistics are,
let's see how the gun and the first
batch of ammo stacked up. There is
little question that the gun and the
soft point load by Remington will
make a hit with hunters who use a
handgun to bring home the venison.
But how will the gun fare with law
enforcement officers? Those who like
to claim that they invented the new
caliber - and as of this writing no
less than three men insist that they
dreamed the caliber up-like to im-
press us with their expertness in mat- ,
ters of police handguns; according to
these "experts," the .41 Magnum will
immediately, if not sooner, obsolete
all other calibers.
With these claims ringing in my
ears, I arranged with Fred Miller of
GUNS AUGUST 1964
FIELD TEST
The AI Magnum
S&W to borrow some other guns, all
of them with six inch barrels, and in
due course a .38 M&P, a .357 Magnum
Model 27, and the 6% inch barrel
Model 29 chambered for the .44 Mag-
num arrived. Ted McCawley of Rem-
ington kindly furnished GUNS Maga-
zine with enough anuno for all calibers
to run the proposed tests. After con-
sulting with Lt. Larry Schey of the
Morton Grove Police Department, the
following test method was set up.
Larry; by the way, has collected a
closetful- of trophies, all. of them won
the hard way 'with his S&W .357 Mag-
num over stiff competition on the PPC.
It was decided that I would pile the
four guns, plenty of ammo, and a tape
recorder into my car and visit a num-
ber of police departments in the area.
In each case, we called the police chief,
explained the project and that we
Camera recorded shooter's hold as
target sight settled on 6 o'clock.
The 044 Magnum
Lt. Larry Schey compares recoil
of Magnum calibers while firing
target course. Synchronized Robot
camera records recoil and torque.
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The S&v.J .41 Magnum
wanted to "borrow" three or four of
his men. Two of them should be better
than average shots, preferably even
gun nuts, while two other officers
should be typical of the average police
officer all over the country-they fired
their service revolvers if and when
they had to qualify.
In order to sample as many depart-
ments and men as possible in the short
time available, a schedule for shooting
and interviewing was set up. In a taped
pre-shooting interview, the officer was
briefed about the .41 Magnum, was
then asked to fire in the conventional
Author tape records reactions of Officers Stahl and Kerwin after
t hey fired cours e. Th ree Mag nums penetrated steel plate easily.
Reverse side of steel plate shows that .38 barely dimpled steel,
while other ca libers had almost identical amount of penetration.
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target shooting manner-and not for
score or a departmental record- three
rounds of .38 Special, three rounds of
.357 Magnum, three rounds of .41
Magnum, and three rounds of .44
Magnum. Ammunition and guns were
furnished, and there was no time
limit placed on the shooting of this
test. I selected the three round test so
that shooters would not tire needlessly
and to avoid making the shooters re-
coil-conscious or create a tendency to
flinch. No scoring was attempted.
A total of 24 law enforcement offi-
cers, from patrolmen to chiefs fired
the course, and five different depart-
ments were involved in the tests. Not
counted here was a team of men from
the Lake County, Illinois, Sheriff's
Office who cooperated in extensive
penetration tests. Most of the officers
were asked to shoot the course single
action, but a few selected ones were
asked to shoot the course double ac-
tion after firing it single action. Be-
fore shooting, the officer was asked
not to think about the taped prefir-
ing interview, but just to shoot the
course without worrying about scores.
As soon as he completed the firing, his
immediate reaction to firing the four
guns was tape recorded.
Lt. Schey found that "the .41 Mag-
num recoil is somewhat heavier than
that of the .357 Magnum, but is not
anywhere in the class of the recoil
developed by the .44 Magnum. The .41
Magnum recoil is too great for a
speedy recovery and return of the gun
and the gun hand on the target." Lt.
Schey repeated the course with his 4
inch .357 Magnum since his service
gun has custom grips and he did en-
counter-other officers found the same
thing to be true-some trouble hold-
ing the .41 Magnum. The general con-
sensus of opinion was that the grips on
the .41 Magnum were too small, and
a number of men felt that the gun might
be easier to handle if bigger grips were
furnished. Larry believes that the re-
coil of the .41 Magnum and the recoil
of his service revolver were about on
a par, although his score was not im-
proved when he used his service re-
volver rather than the test gun.
Lt. Schey also t ried the combat
course with t he new Smith and Wesson
revolver, t hen repeated the course with
his service gun, using full Remington
.357 Magnum loads. " Recoil of the
new caliber (Continued on page 40)
GUNS AUGUST 1964
Kuger's Kiln- fie
By R. A. STEINDLER
THIS GUN OFFERS A
NEW CONCEPT IN CARTRIDGE
FEEDING FROM A
ROTARY MAGAZINE THAT IS
FOOLPROOF
GUNS AUGUST 1964
I
T WAS ONLY A question of time and engineering skill before Bill Ruger
would develop a semi-automatic .22 caliber, rim-fire carbine. Designated
as the Ruger 10/22, the handy little gun looks like its bigger brother,
the .44 Magnum carbine, and it handles just as sweetly. However, here the
resemblance ends, and the real news about the 10/22 lies in the magazine.
Let's first look at some of the mechanical features of Bill Ruger's latest
creation. Externally, the two carbines are look-alikes. Over-all length of the
10/22 is 37 inches, barrel length is 18Y2 inches, and the test gun-serial
number 503-tipped the scale at just a fraction over five pounds. The
receiver is tapped and drilled for scope mounting, and the cross-bolt safety
is on the forward and upper part of the trigger guard. The American
walnut stock is well finished, the open sights are identical to those found
on the .44 Magnum gun.
Mechanically, the magazine is the most interesting feature of the new
gun. It is a 10 shot affair of the rotary kind that faintly resembles the
idea used in the Mannlicher-Schoenauer magazines. But the Ruger maga-
zine was a year and a half in the engineering department, time well spent,
since magazine performance was completely flawless in function and a'ccu-
racy tests. The rotor and housing of the magazine are molded from Celon,
an extremely tough plastic that can take an almost incredible beating.
Ed Nolan and other Ruger men demonstrated (Continued on page 45)
Cut-away of. magazine
how cartridges are
and fed. Although
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Top to bottom: Sharps-Borchardt .45 express rifle;
a Freund Brothers alteration of the Sharps made in
their "Wyoming Armory; " a Sharps Long range rifle
presented to John P. Lower, a Denver arms dealer.
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J. M. Browning's Model 1878 rifle
(far left), and model he patented
in 1879. Above: Single shot pistol
never gained the popularity of the
Colt Navy or Frontier revolvers.
Right: Advertising card of George
Freund's gun shop in early 1880's.
I
N THE DRAMAPACKED days from the 1850's up to
the turn of the century, important things were happen-
ing on the eastern slope of the Rockies as well as on the
coastal side, and in their way these events were as full of
excitement and adventure as one could wish. For one
thing, those who did not put the Rocky Mountains between
them and the great plains had neighbors of the wrong
kind-the toughest of the hostile Indian tribes.
During the summer of 1859, there were 150,000 gold
seekers within the boundaries of what is now the state of
Colorado. The Pike's Peak boom was short lived, but
Denver became a supply center for those who moved on
to other strikes in the territories of Montana, Idaho, and
Nevada. What St. Louis had been to the emigrapts,
frontiersmen, and sportsmen of the 1840's and 1850's,
Denver was destined to become in the 1860's and 1870's.
Rather striking evidence of this is found in the fact that
Samuel Hawken, long the most famous riflemaker in St.
Louis, headed for Denver in late 1859; he walked the
entire distance in 57 days!
In January of 1860 this advertisement appeared in
Denver's Rocky Mountain News: "S. Hawken, for the
last thirty-seven years in the manufacture of the Rocky
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Mountain rifle in St. Louis, would respectfully say to the
citizens of Denver, Auraria, and his old mountain friends,
that he has established himself in the gun business on
Ferry Street, between Fourth and Fifth, next door to
Jones' & Cartright's, Auraria, and is now prepared to
manufacture his style of rifles to order."
Sam Hawken, his health beginning to fail at age 67,
did not work long in Denver. There were capable younger
men to take his place and among them was Carlos Gove.
~ o v was a tall, muscular young man, an ex-Dragoon
soldier, Indian fighter, and a gunsmith by trade. He first
appeared in Denver in 1860 with a supply train, and it
was not long thereafter that he put up his shingle as a
gunsmith. Like gunmaker Horace Rowell of California,
90ve was a native of New Hampshire, and he had learned
. his trade through an apprenticeship in Boston. After
serving in the U. S. Dragoons, Gove had been engaged as
a gunsmith by the Indian Department and was stationed
at the Pottawattamie Agency, on the present site of
Council Bluffs, Iowa.
Gove's gun trade in Denver increased steadily. In 1873
he felt he could not handle it alone and took in as partners
John P. Lower and George C. (Continued on page 46)
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ADVICE FOR HUNTERS WHO
WANT BIGGER BAGS OF LATE
SEASON HONKERS
Goose hunting in the open
prairie or in corn fields
requires a special bag of
tricks to assure success.
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By COL. DAVE HARBOUR
I
HA VE NEVER SEEN a more spectacular sight than
thousands of Canadian geese leaving their winter sanc-
tuary to feed. Last December, on the the firing line at
John Martin Reservoir in southeastern Colorado, over
20,000 honkers began leaving the lake at eight in the
morning in groups of a few dozen to hundreds of birds-
and the flights continued until almost noon! With at least
50 hunters along the firing line, the air was filled with
almost continual shotgun fire. I saw only one goose fall
besides the two my partner killed with only three shots!
I've watched other armies of goose hunters in action
around many of our honker sanctuaries, and have ob-
served the same relatively low mortality rate they inflict on
the great flights of ~ i n t r i n g geese. I have also noted that
it's that small percentage of goose-wise hunters who get
most of the late season geese. Why? It's because they have
learned how to hunt geese three different ways!
The experienced late season goose hunter knows how to
hunt from the firing line as the geese leave the sanctuary
to feed. He knows how to hunt them in the fields while they
are feeding. And he knows how to position himself in
favorable areas for pass shooting as the honkers trade
back and forth from sanctuaries to feeding areas, and
The author didn't even need a blind on this Colorado
prairie flyway, situated between two feeding areas.
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between the feeding areas. He has learned all three of these
methods, for he knows that at times, the use of only one of
them can mean success.
In spite of the long goose seasons and generous bag
limits, the populations of Canadas returning to most U.S.
wintering areas are holding their own or are increasing.
This happy trend is due partly to the fact that most honkers
nest much farther north than do most of our ducks. It is
also due to the almost uncanny tricks to dodge the average
hunter that the honkers have learned to use---especially
during late season-as they leave, feed, and return to the
safety of their winter resorts!
The goose-wise hunter must learn a lot of tricks himself
to counter those employed by the honker. First, let's ex-
amine those he uses when he hunts from the firing lines,
that is, designated boundaries around waterfowl sanctuaries
that mark the closest points to the sanctuary from which
hunters are allowed to shoot. Firing lines are usually posi-
tioned a half mile or more from the sanctuaries so that
geese and ducks resting inside will not be disturbed by the
firing and will return to, and use, the sanctuaries regularly.
My partner, Pete Glover, was successful because he ex-
ecuted four neat tricks. He was on the firing line when the
geese were flying. He was where they were flying over at
reasonable distance from his gun. He had the right gun and
shell combination. And he knew how and when to fire.
Here are the ground rules that Pete uses to determine
when the geese will be flying. He knows that wise old
honkers usually leave the sanctuary to feed during early
morning hours if the night has been dark. So Pete heads
for the firing line early in the morning, after nights of a
quarter moon or less, or after any stonny or cloudy night.
When Pete does head for the firing line after a bright
moonlight night, he goes only in the late afternoon on the
chance that a few flocks might leave the sanctuary early
to begin their night feeding.
Predicting where to position oneself on the firing line is
. a more difficult problem. This must not only be at a point
over which flocks of departing geese will pass, it must also
be one which they will pass within reasonable shotgun
range. Ideally, this point should be close to the sanctuary
so the geese will not have had time to gain much altitude.
It should be downwind from the sanctuary, since geese
cannot gain much altitude in a short distance when flying
with the wind. And it should be on an elevation, such as
a hill, to further cut down the (Continued on page 42)
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Well-attended classes hear volunteer
instructors, like Ben Avery (belowl,
lecturing on firearms fundamentals.
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J/II KIDS
LEARN TO
SHOOT!
By CHARLES C. NIEHUIS
EVERYONE HAS FUN AT A WELL-ORGANIZED GUN
TRAINING COURSE-INCLUDING THE INSTRUCTOR
Following the classroom instruction, the students are taken into the field for
practical hunting experience while und er the watchful eyes of the instructors.
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thorough, all basic shooting positions ar e taught . Safe g un han dling
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HOUSANDS OF BOYS, girls, and adults of Phoenix, Arizona, have learned
that shooting can be fun, especially when proper instructions by qualified men
are a part of the shooting.
What started out to be a minor public relations project by the Phoenix Sports-
man's Association, for the sons and daughters of its membership, has grown into
a state-wide program.
The movement actually began with Ben Avery, editor of the Rod and Gun
column in the "Arizona Republic." He learned that shooting can be fun not only
for the student, but also for the instructor, by teaching his three daughters how
to shoot and handle rifles. One of the girls became a state small-bore champion,
and qualified on the state college rifle team. Ben, in writing about his own
gun teaching experiences and the many rewards garnered by him, inspired the
outdoorsmen and shooters of Phoenix to make gun education for youngsters a
project for their clubs.
The Arizona Varmint Callers' Association, the Phoenix Sportsman's Association,
and the Phoenix Rod and Gun Club, which heretofore had been rival organizations,
banded together to carry out a city-wide program to teah proper -gun handling,
shooting, and respect and pride in firearms ownership. AllII" the idea caught on !
Every fall, the various clubs announce their winter gun instruction schedule in
the area's daily newspapers. Typical is the one attended by the author's son, Paul.
No minor children are permitted to take the course unless accompanied by their
parents and with their full support and consent. It has been the experience of
the clubs that more often t han not, both parents t ake the course along with
their children and they enj oy it as much as the kids.
Parents and students are indoctrinated first with an (Continued on page 66)
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The course completed, young
shooter receives his diploma.
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Wnlls.

By NEIL L. FARRELL
D
OWN THROUGH the ages, man
has always had the burning de-
sire to convert an article to something
other than that for which it was orig-
inally designed. Today, with a flick of
the wrist, a sofa becomes a bed, a
closed car becomes an open car. This
convertibility of function and use also
has its followers in the firearms world;
we have our modern conversion units
or kits, which usually are designed to '
permit a large caliber firearm to fire
a smaller caliber cartridge.
Conversion of firearms goes back to
the early days of gun development;
when the flintlock was superseded by
the percussion cap, existing arms were
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Conversion unit for the Luger pistol
developed two flaws. On the left is
photo of cartridges, showing bulges
ahead of rim. At right is the clip,
which jammed the action before repairs.
converted to this new form of igni-
tion; when the cartridge evolved, the
percussion guns were converted to
handle the self-contained cartridge. But
here lets talk about conversions from
one caliber to another, and specifically
handgun conversion kits, for conver-
sion kits for shotguns and rifles are
yet another st.ory.
These conversion kits have been
manufactured over a span of years by
several different firms. To mention
some, there have been converters made
for the Luger, Sig Neuhausen, and
Colt automatic pistols, and the British
Webley and Enfield revolvers. One of
the latest kits is for the small .25 Colt
automatic pistol, adapting it to fire
the .22 Short cartridge.
One outstanding characteristic of
these conversion kits is that they are
made predominantly for "GI" weapons,
those which have been accepted as a
standard service arm by one country
or another. An examination of the
various adapter kits available causes
another characteristic to be immediate
ly apparent. They are made predomi.
nantly for the .22 Long Rifle car-
tridge. There are, of course, exceptions
to this. They range in caliber from
4mm, no doubt the smallest, to the
297/ 250 English Rook Rifle caliber
converter for the .455 Webley revolver,
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this latter being the largest that I have
ever seen. Another exception is the new
Smith & Wesson kit which converts
the .22 Long Rifle Model 46 target
pistol to .22 Short.
It might do well to mention that a
conversion kit should not be confused
with an auxiliary cartridge, as their
purposes are quite different. The con-
verter, or adapter kit, generally has a
liner tube which can be inserted into
a specific large bore weapon thereby
reducing it to a smaller caliber. This
kit does not require permanent altera-
tion of the weapon and can be removed
at will to return the firearm to its
original caliber. On the other hand,
the auxiliary cartridge is merely a
mechanical device for holding a small
cartridge in a large chamber in order
to fire a bullet of the same diameter as
the original bore. One example of this
is the Marble Auxiliary Cartridge,
another are the inserts for the S&W
.22 Jet revolver which permit the use
of .22 rim-fire cartridges. Here we will
be concerned with three adapter kits
which were designed for use with three
. . ndard service sidearms; the Webley
.455 revolver, and the 9mm Luger,
and .45 Government Model automatics.
The Webley unit is distributed by
the firm of Parker-Hale Limited, of
Birmingham, England. This kit is the
least expensive of the three, my own
bought in England, in 1957, for the
U.S. equivalent of about eleven dollars.
My kit is for the Mark VI Webley
.455, although Parker-Hale also has a
kit for the .38 Enfield revolver.
The Webley is by far the simplest of
the three, both in construction and in-
stallation. It consists of only two major
components, the insert barrel, 6-13/ 16"
long, and the .22 caliber cylinder. The
barrel has an outside diameter of
.373," much too small to provide a
snug fit in the original .455 bore, but
is provided with a brass bushing on
the front, and (Continued on page 53)
The Webley Mark IV with Parker-
Hale conversion unit installed.
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Five degree slope of chambers is
apparent from this front end view.
Parker-Hale .22 conversion
unit for the Webley has only
two major components; insert
barrel assembly and integral
rear sight, and the cylinder.
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WAH 'EM /JUT.I
Trophies li ke this fi ne bull elk don't come to t he
hunter who won't t ake t he extra effort or stay t o
t he final hour. Big racks are almost always just a
little farther than t he average hunter cares to go.
Outfitters and guides will go the one extra mile for
hun ters who won ' t g ive up and don't complain.
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By C LYDE ORMOND
J
UST AS PROFESSIONAL baseball is a game of inches,
successful big-game hunting is a sport of minutes, of
waiting a little longer, trying a bit harder.
I learned this many years ago on a buck hunt in Idaho's
Caribou Forest. Three of us had hunted hard for all of
the allotted time. My t wo partners had hung up bucks-
a fine t wo-pointer and a huge four-pointer. I'd continu-
ously been just where the bucks weren't.
The morning we were to leave for home, it was raining
enough to embarrass a mallard. We'd packed all the gear
in t he car, except the Baker tent, and one of the fellows
was alternating between grazing upon a huge plate of corn-
flakes, and trying to get me to stay and hunt an extra
day.
"Ray and I can wait over," he argued. "Why not give
it another whirl?"
"Too rainy," I said.
"Y ou're just too lazy to hunt," Ray goaded me.
Had it not been for their persistence, we would have
been on the way home a half-hour before. But as we
argued, Burn, at the corn-flakes, suddenly paused, mouth
open. "My gosh, look !"
Tripping daintily along about 50 yards away, a three-
point buck, likely tired of the rain across the canyon, had
crossed the valley, and was walking right up a thin trail
to the tiny spring. Had Burn not said anything, that buck ,
would have walked right into the tent.
I got the 7 mm, which had been stored in the car for
the home trip, sat on the car's bumper, and rolled that
fat buck by the time he'd romped off 175 yards! Since
then, comparable results- after giving a hunt that extra
effort and time-have happened almost regularly.
On a moose hunt in Alaska, my partner had busted a
noble 58 incher the first day, and we'd both taken grizzly
and caribou. But my bull moose had eluded me. The rut
hadn't started yet, and the great bulls were not crashing
about; the leaves on the Alaska willows hadn't yet dropped
with frost, making it difficult to spot the huge black
animals in the bush.
With our 20 day hunt over, my partner stayed in camp
to pack things. I should have helped him, but hated to see
the final day pass without some kind of effort. I couldn't
actually hunt, since our time was over and all the guides
were busy otherwise. But I saddled up my horse, and went
with one of the Indian gui des t o pack in my caribou,
killed t he day before. The .300 H&H Magnum went along
in the scabbard.
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HUNTING SUCCESS PRESCRIPTION: TAKE E9UAL
PARTS OF HARD WORK AND MIX WELL WITH SAVVY
The guide and I went 10 miles, packed the caribou
quarters in, and were fording the Slana River, just 400
yards from camp. Suddenly my nag snorted, shied, and
pointed his ears towards shore. There, within reasopable
range, stood a mighty bull moose, which had just hap ..
pened to head that way. I piled off, stood knee-deep in
the river, and busted him. He had 24 points and a 58 inch
spread, the same as my partner's.
The last time a bit of final effort paid off in a big way
occurred on a late Colorado buck hunt in 1962. We were
hunting at Weldon Dearing's Spring Creek Ranch, just out
of Grand Valley, and adj acent to the Rockies. Though this
was marvelous deer country, ( Continued on page 51)
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The author and his fine
Alaskan Moose. After a
rough three week hunt.
this bull. with its 24
point rack and 58 inch
spread. was shot within
400 yards of the camp.
Below: This fine muley
was taken only because
the guide had urged the
discouraged hunter to
try just one more time.
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T
RAPSHOOTERS FROM EIGHTEEN
states and three Canadian provinces
found the Florida weather a little less than
balmy this year, but most of them concluded
that the weather back home lacked much
more to being ideal during the same period.
Here are some of the highlights.
John Coulson escaped a battle in one of
the 16 yard races at Tampa's Cigar City Gun
Club, when he broke them all, and avoided a
shootoff with a trio of 99 gunners, Henry
Austin, Cliff Gadaire and George Wallace.
Coulson hails from Monongahela, Pennsyl
vania, and Gadaire is a fellow Easterner,
from Brookfield, Massachusetts. Wallace and
Austin are from Marshall and Champaign,
Illinois, respectively.
In another Cigar City event, Ed Dekker
and Wayne Richards squared off in a shoot
off for handicap honors, with the decision
going to Dekker.
Homer Clark fired a perfect century in -the
opening 16 yard event at Sarasota and won
the trophy (this is news?). Homer just keeps
breaking targets, and winning. Paul Clay
and Jerry Hutchison were a pair of handicap
winners at Sarasota.
Buddy Jones doubled up at Sarasota with
trophies for the State doubles Championship,
and high-all-around. Sonny Hewes took the
state singles race with 196x200, and Dr. T.H.
Wallace was high Floridian in the handicap
competition.
For more highlights on the Sarasota events,
Ted Bachhuber topped the 500 target mara-
thoners, with 490x500. Dave Baldwin went
home with a 51,200 rifle donated by Winslow
Arms Co. of Venice, Florida, for topping
Harold Ramby in the high-over-all race. How-
ever, Ramby was not to be denied, as he won
the Miller High Life Trophy, figured on the
entire program (the Winslow excludes open-
ing day targets).
John Summers, Jr., cracked 367 of the 400
handicap targets. Wayne Richards was high
Floridian in High-Over-All program (600
targets) and Harry Willsie was high non
resident, and also winner of the Palm Beach
trophy. The Daytona Beach Baby Grand
event of the Florida Chain produced a new
set of winners. Some of the 16-yard victors
over the program were Howard Dilts, John
Andcrson, Levi Schick, Adolph Nelson, W. T.
Middleton, William Blackton, Clarence
Becker, and Jack Greenhill.
Handicap victories went to M. S. Haines,
Levi Schick, and William Blackton. Orville
Eberly was a doubles winner, and most of the
Ladies' laurels (plus a class win in open
shooting) went to Mrs. Bertha Ferrington,
who also was Women' s High - Over - All
trophy winner, for 571 of 700 targets. Harry
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Mathers and James Null tied for Men's HOA,
and since the trophy was a pair of candela-
bra, each man now has one candlestick

The Women's Trap Shooting League of
Philadelphia, whose doings have been re-
ported from time to time in these pages,
made it big in the Sunday Society pages of
the "Philadelphia Inquirer," with a full col-
umn spread and battery of pictures, showing
Mrs. Andrew S. Webb, Mrs. Walter Eichel-
berger, Mrs. William G. Harbison, and Mrs.
J.W. Eiman on the firing line.
This fine shooting publicity plugged the
League's 15th Annual June Day benefit shoot
for Abington Memorial Hospital. The "In-
quirer" story also credited A. J. McDowell,
affectionately dubbed "Mr. Mac" with being
the "father" of the Women's Trap League.

Charles 1. Schenkel won the Charles Schil-
ling Trophy at Huntingdon Valley Country
Club, Abington, Pa., but only after racking
up 25 straight in a shoot-off with Andy Webb
and Richard Kuhn. Mrs. Webb took a little
of the sting away from hubby's loss, by
taking the Ladies trophy. J. R. Steele, only
one target off the pace, won top honors in a
bi-monthly shoot at Roxborough Gun Club.
Richard E. Crossan, of West Grove, Penn-
sylvania, missed only ten targets of 500 mara-
thon birds at Pine Valley, New Jersey, Gun
Club. W. D. Marvel, Lincoln, Delaware, was
second with 488, and third went to J. R.
Steele of Philadelphia, for his 487.
Mrs. Mary Christopher, the Cornwell
Heights, Pa., shooting ace, topped a field of
75 shooters with her 98x100. L. Moore, of
Trenton, shooting from 20 yards topped the
handicap entries at Upper Perkiomen Sports-
men's Club, Red Hill, Pennsylvania.
One hundred shooters at West Chester
Gun Club could not match R. H. Miller's
99. This Miller hails from Valley View, in
Schuylkill County. Mildred Neece, from Wil-
mington, Delaware, topped the Ladies with
her 87. Andy Webb saw how Charles Schen-
kel did it at Huntingdon Valley, so when he
was tied by Dave Schenkel, Bruce Kendall,
and Ed' Taws in the main event, promptly
fired a perfect 25 in the shoot off, and saved
ammunition. -
Twenty-four yard shooter C. H. Zeigler,
Vernfield, Pa., dropped only one target to
defeat 60 hopefuls in a Roxborough handi-
cap event. Archie DiPaolo found the formula
of just one miss also good for the 16 yard
trophy, in the club's annual Spring program.
Louis C. Rauscher and Mrs. W. W. Rem-
mey topped the men's and ladies' divisions
in the Torresdale-Frankford Country Club's
annual club championships. Rauscher broke
96x100 to win the men's title, and Mrs. Rem-
mey's 97x100 not only won the ladies' cham-
pionship, but was high for the annual
tournament.
Another Miller, C. K. Miller of Boyertown
was a Roxborough winner at 98x100, topping
Cliff Leutholt's 97. Leutholt, firing from ihe
22 yard stripe, avenged this loss with a win
in the handicap event. (We Millers are
bound to get our names in the winners
columns. There are so many of us that we
are sure to win some of the time).
Tommy Eiman fired a fine 48x50 to win
the Huntingdon Valley club's junior title.
Tommy's closest competitor was Andy Webb,
J r., who broke 45 of his 50 targets.
Mr. and Mrs. Fred Hooven made it a
family affair in the Pulido Trophy Shoot at
Aronimink Gun Club. Mrs. Hooven won the
Ladies Handicap trophy, and Fred was high
gun. Other winners from the Pulido shoot
were Mrs. Robert McKenna, Mrs. Thomas
P. Jones, Pierre Houdry, and Rusty Camp-
bell. Bob Pagliughi and Bill Mehrer were
doubles and handicap winners at Pine Valley,
New Jersey Gun Club, in the South Jersey
Zone tourney. R. E. Diefenderfer, with a
99x100, and Mrs. Mary Christopher were
Red Hill winners, in their respective divi-
sions.
J. H. Donahay, from Cranbury, New Jer-
sey, topped 70 trapshooters, with 97x100 in
the Quaker City Gun Club's annual Easter
tournament (late result). Winners in the
Atlantic City Holiday Shoot were R. Sebra,
Indian Mills, and G. Pantalina. Dan Jones
was runner-up to Sebra, and Dr. J. W.
Conover took third.
A. W. Snyder paced the field in a Bucks
County F&G trap event, with 99x100 in the
16 yard program. Snyder was also runner-up
to Charles Weins tetter in the handicap race,
for a good day over the traps. Mrs. Bruce
Ambler and Charles J. Schenkel topped
their divisions in Huntingdon Valley annual
club championships. Mrs. Ambler bested
Mrs. Walter H. Eichelberger, Jr., 25-23 in
a shoot-off, after both had broken 95 targets
over the regulation distance. Schenkel an-
nexed the men's 16 yard championship with-
out a struggle, for his near-perfect 99.
General Nicholas Biddle, and Mrs. Edwin
A. Weihenmayer Jr. won shoot-offs in Lhe
handicap portion of their club's annual
championships. The New York Athletic Club
held a 500 target marathon shoot at the
club's Travers Island location in memory of
Thomas Lawrence, of Danville, Pa., who
served the club as shooting chairman for
many years. Results of the NYAC marathon
were not available as we went to press.

The 65th Grand American Trapshooting
Tournament will be held at permanent ATA
headquarters, Vandalia, Ohio. August 24-29.
Preliminary days are August 21-23. This one
promises to be the best ever, and your vaca-
tion will be well spent at the oldest, most
colorful, and most exciting of individual na-
tional sporting events.
The 1964 National Skeet Shooting As-
sociation World Championships are set for
Harolds Trapshooting Conntry Club, at Reno,
Nevada, August 2-8. If you are going west,
this is a feature you won't want to miss, and,
why not try to make both
the national events?
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T
HE PERIOD FROM about 1947 to the present has
seen many new firearms designs come and go, and the
.22 autoloading rifle is no exception. The well-remembered
Remington 241, Winchester 61 and 74, Marlin 88, and
H&R 165 have all been discontinued. In their place we have
the Remington Nylon 66, Winchester's 290, Marlin's 99,
Weatherby's XXII, and a number of European models.
One of the most interesting designs to appear, then disappear, during this period was the
BSA Ralock, a .22 autoloader manufactured by the world-famous Birmingham Small Arms
Co., Ltd., Warwickshire, England.
Designed under the leadership of C. A. Perry, BSA's chief designer, the first Ralock was
produced in October, 1947. The first models, chambered for the .22 Short cartridge, were
serial numbered beginning with S 10001. The rifle had a 22" barrel and weighed slightly
less than six pounds. Only 1200 0. this model were produced.
One year later, in October, 1948, BSA introduced the .22 Long Rifle version of the
Ralock, numbering these from T 10001. This version had a 26.4 inch barrel and weighed
about six pounds. In September of 1951, after only 5,600 rifles were produced, this model
was also discontinued.
The most outstanding feature of the Ralock concerns the fired cases. Having no ejection
port, the empty shells are not ejected from the gun. They are retained in a small reservoir
in the forward part of the trigger guard, which is emptied by grasping the rear of the
trigger guard and swinging it forward, allowing the cases to fall clear. This also serves
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bolt handle for cocking purposes.
The bolt is not the cylindrical, sliding type found in most .22 autoloaders. Nor does it
have a separate firing pin. Instead, it consists of a single machined piece which swings
around a pivot located beneath the rear of the barrel. When viewed from the top, the bolt
is V-shaped. Machined on the inside bottom of this V are two vertical ribs. Squeezing
the trigger releases the bolt, causing it to pivot forward, forcing the cartridge carrier up
out of the way. As the bolt reaches its forward position, the two ribs strike the rim of the
cartridge, firing it. The bolt then pivots backward, extracting the fired case downward;
the swinging cartridge carrier drops into the recess in the bolt (Continued on page 45)
Ralock action in cocked position (top), and in fired position (bottom). At right is front
view of the Ralock bolt. Note the two machined ri bs which serve as firing stri kers.
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QUESTIONS
and
ANSWERS
By GRAHAM BURNSIDE
Questions submitted must carry a Shooters
Club of America number or must be ac-
companied by one dollar. Questions lacking
either number or dollar will be returned.
If you want a personal answer, enclose a
stamped, self-addressed envelope_
Remington Percussion
I have seen a picture of an 1816 Reming-
ton rifle, and my rifle is just like the Rem-
ington with one exception. My rifle is a
percussion lock, whereas the 1816 Reming-
ton pictured was a flintlock.
Is my rifle an 1816 that has been converted
to percussion, or is it something else? My
rifle is a half -stock, octagon barrel, percus-
sion lock, with a large bore of more than
.50 caliber. Also, what type of metal finish
did this gun have ?
Jim Warren
Brooklyn, Mich.
The odds are that your halfstock percus-
sion rifle was originally made the way it is.
If it was made by Remington it probably
was marked with the Remington name on
top of the barrel.
Many gunsmiths bought barrels from Rem-
ington and used them in making a finished
piece. Often the Remingtonmade barrels will
bear the Remington name underneath the
barrel.
Originally your rifle was probably
"browned," but it may have been blued.
Generally speaking, names found on lock-
plates are only the name 0/ the lock maker
and names found on the top of barrels are
the names 0/ the gunsmith.---c.B.
Noble Shotgun
I have an American Eagle, 16 gauge pump
shotgun, Model 60, with a Noble Vary Chek
choke attached. Could you tell me who makes
this shotgun? How much does it list for new,
and what does it sell for used? If the com-
pany is still in business, what is their ad-
dress?
It is not listed in the 1963 Redbook of
Used Gun Values.
Larry Pinkston
Wichita, Kansas
Your Model 60 was made by the Noble
Mfg. Co., HaydeTtUille, Mass. They are still
in business, and offer the Model 60 at $77.85
' list. Y ou'l[ find the gun on page 61 in the
1963 Redbook of Used Gun Values.---C.B.
Ortgies Pistol
I have corne in contact with a German
semi-automatic pistol. It has "Cal. 7.65 mm"
stamped on the barrel, " ORTGIES' PAT-
ENT" on the right side of the slide, and
"Deutsche Werk-ERFURT" on the left side.
All parts are stamped with the serial number
39,330 except the slide which is stamped
137,905. The pistol is in overall good con-
dition, but has no grips. It chambers the
British version of the 7.65 mm cartridge.
I would like to know where the gun was
made, its present value, when this type was
produced, and if it was produced for the
German army during the war.
Alvin Hatcher, Jr.
Albany, Georgia
The Ortgies semi-auto pistol you have was
made at the arms plant at Erfurt, Germany.
They are not rare in this country and with-
out the original grips yours is worth about
$10. The pistol was never the official side-
arm 0/ the German Army but many of them
were carried by German officers.
The 7.65 mm round is interchangeable
with our domestic .32 auto cartridge.---c.B.
Krag Rifle
We recently had a rifle corne in our shop
which we could not definitely recognize. It
is, as far as I know, a Krag of Norwegian
or Danish manufacture.
The markings are as follows : Barrel-
Crown over DK; Receiver-Cross over crown
over HR, also, M89 and 1929.
The rifle is about 8 mm. I would appreci-
ate any information.
D. R. Myers
Sheffield, Alabama
Your rifle is the Danish Krag-lorgensen
model of 1889 that was actually manufac-
tured in 1929. It should be almost 53 inches
over-all, and weigh about 9.8 pounds.
This rifle, made prior to 1928, had a barrel
jacket to protect the barrel and the shooter
when the barrel became heated during rapid
firing.
The Danish Krag-lorgensen handled a spe-
cial 8 mm cartridge which is not manufac-
tured in this country.---C.B.
Gold Medal Wonder
Where might I buy a stock for a "J. N.
Scotts" double barrel, hammer shotgun? The
gun is in excellent shape, and I hate to see
it go to waste. I would also like to know
something about the gunmaker if at all
possible.
I have an old single barrel shotgun, with
a damascus barrel, called a "Gold Medal
Wonder", which I believe to be an old
Sears & Roebuck brand. Do you know any-
thing at all about this gun?
Is there any company that sells actions
for the Winchester or Marlin lever action
.3030 or .35 calibers?
(Continued on page 38)
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(Continued from page 36)
Could you tell me the value of a Stevens
Model 32S-B in excellent shape? I have not
been able to fi nd this gun in any of my
catalogs.
David A. Linfoot
Bala-Cynwyd, Pa.
Although I cannot prove that your "Gold
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& Co., I think it was. Sears, for some rea-
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I know they sold the following : "Long
Range Wonder," "American Barlock Won-
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others.
I have no idea where you can obtain an
original stock for your J. N. Scotts double.
I suggest you get a stock blank and make
one. J. N. Scotts was probably only a retailer,
and probably in New York. His name also
appears on brass framed, safety hammerless
revolvers like the Maltby-Henley products,
and single shot shotguns.
I'm not sure what you mean by "actions"
for Winchester or Marlin, etc. Those com-
panies will supply parts, but obsolete actions
would be best found in gunsmiths or arms
dealers stocks.
An excellent 325 Stevens rifle is worth
about $25$30.-G.B.
Colt D. A. Parts
I have a Colt Double Action Army Re-
volver i n .38 WCF. Could you tell me where
I can get parts for this revolver? This gun
has a side plate on the left side , so you can
work on the inside mechanism.
J ack Stockwell
Charlevoix, Michigan
I suggest that you contact dealers who ad-
vertise that they have parts available. Two
such organizations are : Numrich Arms Co.,
West Hurley, N.Y., and Shelley Braverman,
Four Mile Point Rd., Athens, N.Y.-G.B.
Merwin & Hulbert
Do you have, or do you know where I can
get, a breakdown drawing for a 44-40 Mer-
win & Hul bert revolver ?
Hugh Edwards
Horsham, Pennsylvania
I do not know where such a drawing can
be found. I suggest you write to :
Spencer Merwin II
348 Starks Bldg.
Louisville, Ky.
Mr. Merwin studies and collects Menuin &
Hulbert arms and may be able to help
YOU-G.B.
Kimball Pistol
Could you give me your opinion as to the
value of a Kimball semi-automatic pistol
chambered fur the .30 carbipe cartridge?
The gun is in perfect conditi on.
It is my infpression that this pistol was
f6und to be unsafe for the .30 carbine car-
tridge after a series of tests were run by the
NRA.
James E. Lamkin, Jr.
Tulsa, Okla.
The Kimball sem.i-auto pistol was not
satisfactory in that the .30 Ml carbine round
would, in time, shake the thing loose.
The pistol is now more of a collectors item
and, with the interest in auto pistols grow-
ing by leaps and bounds, the Kimball would
be a good item depending upon the price
involved.
I saw one sold two years ago for $100,
and everyone seemed to think that the man
got a good buy. I have not seen one for sale
since that time and do not really know what
a fair price would be.-G.B.
A 6.5 Single Shot
I would appreciate information on a single
shot rifl e with octagon barrel and two
triggers. It is a r im-fire as far as I can tell
from the impression where it has been fired.
On the barrel is "Aug Luneburg Kiel. "
J ust below this are two proof marks and
6.5 mm. The lever cocks the gun and at the
same time breaks open the barrel.
I would like to know if ammunition is
still available for it. I work in the machine
shop on board ship, and can make any new
parts for it.
Edward O. Whitehall
F.P.O. San Francisco
I have no information on August Luneburg
of Kiel, Germany. Obviously your piece is
a gunsmith's product and is not a well-known
product. Maybe Lu.neburg simply was a
dealer that sold the arm and it bears no fac-
tory name.
If the piece is in good condition, and you
wish to fire it, I would suggest that you have
a chamber cast made. There are many 6.5
mm cartridges, and this is the only way we
could possibly identify the correct one for
your gun.-G.B.
Ammo Ident ification
I have recently become a collector of small
arms ammunition, both United States and
foreign. By use of the cartridge headstamps
and measurements I have been able to
identify the caliber and native country. How-
ever, I would like to compile data cards for
each round. Can you tell me where I may
find information such as: origin of round,
principle weapon with which used, drop, and
muzzle velocity.
Charles 1. Mason
Alexandria, Va.
My suggestion is that you build a library
on gun collecting as well as the statistics
and of ammunition.
There is no one book which will give you
even 25 per cent of what you want. You will
have to have a score of books or more. Un-
fortunately some of the very informative
books are already out of print.
Sooner than list a dozen or more books in
this answer I'll advise that you contact the
dealers in arms books who advertise 'in G UNS
and ask for books on ammunition.
Basically you should have the few follow-
ing books :
"Cartridges" by H. C. Logan.
"Cartridges for Collectors" (Vol. 1 & Vol.
2) by Fred Datig.
" The American Ca:rtridge" by Chas. R.
Suydam.
"Cartridge Head Stamp Guide" by H. P.
White and B. D. Munhall.
You might also write the various cartridge
dealers for their lists. Much information is
contained in these lists- both as to
'/-'alue and identification.-G.B.
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the Pennsylvania rifle had become well known.
Many of the Pennsylvania gunsmiths based the design of their firearms on the
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was about nine pounds. So many variations in cali ber, size, and style exist that it
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THE S&W A I MAGNUM-FIELD TEST REPORT
(Continued from page 20)
is just enough to make a rapid recovery in
a combat shoot much slower than when a
.357 Magnum with f ull l oads is used," and
Larry's vote very definitely goes to the .357
Magnum as police gun.
Lt. Thomas Vidrick of t he Arlington
Heights P olice Department has been a po-
lice officer for 16 years. After fi ring the
course, he commented:
"The recoil of the .41 Magnum is much
greater than that of the .357."
"Do you think that the .41 Magnum
would make a good police gun ?"
"I think that the .41 Magnum is much
too powerful for police use." Thi s opinion
was voiced several times, and Ptl. J . Plaisted
of the same department, offered the suc
cinct comment: "Terrific recoil." Another
offi cer simply summed up by saying "A little
too much gun for me."
The urban reaction was summed up by a
high r anking police offi cial who fir ed the
course, is an avid shooter, and who has 35
years of law enfor cement experience. His
primary concern is bullet performance and
penetration. "A bullet that penetrates too
much, whether it be a car body or the
from two offi cers of the Libertyville Police
Department. Ptl. J ames Stahl has been a
policeman for 6 year s, and two years with
the Lake County Sheriff's offi ce, and was
a Marine. His duty gun is a .38, and " the
recoil of the .41 S&W is just too much and
it is too much in a straight line." This
comment, by the way, was made by a large
maj ority of the men who fired the gun,
although I was unable to determine why
they felt that the straight line recoil was
bad. My own personal experience with this
gun and shooting the same course was
t hat the recoil of the .41 was a bit heftier
than that of the .357 Magnum, but did not
exert the unpleasant and time wasting
torque of the .44 Magnum.
Ptl. Tom Kerwin, also of the Libertyville
Police Department, has been an offi cer for
over 11 years. He fired the course twice,
and both times his reactions were identical.
"The straight line recoil is just too much."
Although he would not consider carrying
the gun, he feels that it would make a good
backup gun and he woul d consider carry
ing one in the car, like a riot gun.
In the rural areas, the .41 S&W Magnum
TABLE OF RELATIVE STOPPING POWER AND RECOIL
Index
Relati ve
Stopping
Wei ght of Approx. Weighto( Relative Power ReCOIl
Bul let Velocity Revolver Stopping .38 Special (Foot
(Grains) (Ft.perSeconcD (Ounces) Power pounds)
.38 Speciaf 158 855 32 14 100 3.3
.38 Special Hi Speed 158 1,085 31 17 129 5.6
.357 Magnum 158 1,400 44 28 198 6.3
.44 Special 246 755 36 27 197 5.0
.44 Specia[ 246 755 45 27 197 4.0
.45 Auto Rim' 230 805 45 29 4.3
.45 Colt 255 855 47 36 258 5.7
.44 Magnum 240 1,470 47 64 ' 467
.41 Magnum 210 1,500 48 46 332 12.5
A l Magnum 210 1,050 48 38" 277 6.5
Stopping power values based on Maj. Gen. Julian S. Hatcher"s formulas.
These formulas are approximate, but they do represent the best method presently available for comparsion of bullet st opping power.
body of a man, can cause considerabl e
secondary damage and can even kill an
innocent bystander. I asked him about car
stopping. His response was almost typical
for urban officers. Said he: "Car stopping.
Ha, how many cars did I or any of the
others here stop in 30 years? Not one. But
a hard hitting-that is heavy, fast traveling
cause more damage, and don' t
forget that the city t hat hires a policeman
is responsible for his actions. If the bullet
is too heavy, has too much penetration, and
has too much velocity, there is always the
danger of wounding or killing an innocent
citizen. If I could be relatively certain that
the bullet from the .41 Magnum woul d not
do that, I might consider the new caliber.
However, I cannot be assured of that, and
in light of this, I would hesitate to use or
recommend this gun. Don't misunderstand
me. The weapon is an excellent one, but I
don't believe that the .41 S&W Magnum is
the answer to' our problem."
, The first tests were conducted with offi-
cers from urban departments, and since
the vote was so strongly against the heavy
.41 Magnum, I decided to see what reac-
tions woul d be among suburban depart-
ments and county police officers.
How did the .41 Magnum stack up in the
suburban areas? Typical r eactions came
made a real hit. Deputy Sheriff Herbert
I-lor ton has been a police officer for 5
1
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years and was an MP in the Marine Corps
for Ph years. In contrast to most other
officers who fired the test course, Herb
stands 6 ft. 5 inches and weighs 210'
pounds. His service gun is a S&W .38 Com
bat Masterpiece. After firing the course on
a car body for penetration tests, Herb felt
that "the .357 Magnum has a li ttle more
kick than the .41 Magnum." This reaction
was due to the fact that t he .357 Magnum
has a smaller frame than the .41, and the
S&W Model 57 fits his big hand much bet
ter. Was he impressed with the performance
of the soft point Remington bullet, and
what was his reaction to the .44 Magnum?
"The .41 has great penetration power. The
.44 is an awfully heavy gun for holster wear
and is a bit too heavy for police use. It is
better than the .41 penetration. wise and
killingwise, and in that respect it is like the
old military .45." He summarized by saying :
"The .41 Magnum is the best all around gun
of the four I have shot here." Deputy Hor
ton is ready to trade his .38 Combat Master
piece for a .41 Magnum. Said he, "the .41
has tremendous power. I have never seen
anything like it. It is like handling a rifle
and a pistol at once."
J oseph Balzrina is an Investi gator for t he
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Lake County Sheriff' s Office. He has been
a police officer for three years and is a
retired Navy Chief who worked for some
time in Naval Security. Joe is a shooter and
gun buff, and has been in several gun bat-
tles. Working in plain clothes, he carries a
.38 snub, but on stake-outs or night work,
he carries a .357 Magnum. Here are his
reactions after performing sever al penett'a-
tion tests : "I am used to shooting t he .357,
and as all-around gun when it comes to car
body destr ucti on, t he .41 seems to be best.
The .44 is way too heavy for my size hand,
and I cannot ha ndle the recoil. The .41
seems to ha ve everything a police officer
would want- if his hand is big enough and
he can control the weapon."
The resul ts of the penetration tests on
car bodies was, to say the l east, impressive.
J oe fi red two rounds from two different
angles, at an engine block at a range of
25 feet. The Remington soft point bullets
tore through the engine block like a hot
knife goes through butter. A straight-on
shot at a tir e ri m at the same distance
gave complete penetration, and the bullet
even went i nto the rim of the opposite
whecl. At a 45 degree angle, the bullet did
not pcnetra te, but ricocheted. A Chrysler
wi th all but one window closed, was the
next car to be wrecked. One shot was fired
through the driver's door, the bullet goi ng
through the opposite door , leaving an exit
hole of about .65 caliber. The next shot,
hel d lower to sec the effect on the uphol-
stery of the seat, created a ricochet from
one of the seat springs, and the bullet tore
through the off-side door, l eaving a hole of
about .80 caliber.
Holding dead on on the windshi eld, the
210 grain SP bullet made a neat hole in
the glass, tore a par t of the steering wheel
off, glanced off the top of the front seat,
went through the back seat, and stopped
somewhere in the wall of the t runk. The
most convincing proof of the power of the
.41 S&W Magnum and the Remington ammo,
came when J oe fi red- twice at the trunk lid
of a 1954 Mer cury. The bullets went through
t he trunk, through the back seat, through
the front seat, through the dashboard, and
one of them went on to wreck the dis-
tributor and bury itself in the engine. The
other bullet was not recovered from the
dash.
Investi gator Balzrina had this to say :
"This weapon (the .41 S&W Magnum)
would be ideal for state police officers and
county police or highway patrolmen due to
the fact that they have vast, open spaces
t hey have to patrol. Her e the population is
not thickly set tled, and the .41 would be a
good gun. Officers might be hampered if
they had to use thi s gun in a city or town
where the population is on the streets. The
.41 has a tremendous destructive power.
There is no doubt that, if a police offi cer
were shooting at a fl eeing car, that he
could stop it before it went 200 or 300
yards. There is absolutely no doubt about
tbis."
Prior to the car body penetration tests, I
checked the performance of the soft point
bullet on a % inch structural steel plate.
At a distance of 30 feet, I fired .38 Special,
.357 Magnum, .41 Magnum, and .44 Magnum
at a plate that was leaning back at a 75
degree angle ; another steel plate was set
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at 90 degrees to the ground. The .38 Special
barely dented the steel, while the magnums
went clear through the plate. Although
moist sand r ecovery provisions were made,
the fragments of the three bullets that
went through the plates wer e so small that
recovery attempts wer e fruitless. In order
to give the test validity, I used soft point
ammo in all instances. Factory lead ammo
is not yet available.
The new S&W gun is built on the same
heavy frame as their .44 Magnum, and is now
available in the 4 and the 6 inch barrel
lengt hs; a 8%" barrel is scheduled. The gun
will also make its appearance in the M&P
model with fixed sights and chances are
that this model will come with 4 and 6 inch
barr els. The Model 57 is available in either
blue or ni ckel finish, and guns have the S&W
red r amp front sights and the white line S&W
micrometer r ear sights. Stocks are of the
target variety, and it seems certain that a
gr eat many men who'll be getting the Model
57 will want custom grips. Our test gun was
nicely fini shed and boxed in the Smith and
Wesson tradi tion. Empty the .41 weighed
48 ounces. Accuracy was very good, and
several 5 shot groups fired at 75 feet from
the off-hand position, averaged 2lh inches.
Before we received the Remington soft
point ammo, I got a set of CH swaging
dies, one for bullet swaging, the other for
swaging cups to .41 from .44. RCBS fur-
nished me wi th a 3 die set for reloading the
few hulls that Remington was able to sup
ply. These were handmade r ounds, but
closely r esembled t he ammumtlOn that
finall y r eached me. As of this moment, the
l ead bullet with gas check is still not avail
able, but a Remington spokesman assured
me that they ar e working "full speed
ahead" on this proj ect.
After considerable shooting and evaluating
the gun's performance and the ammo, I
would say that the new .41 Magnum will
appeal to two groups of shooters: the
hunter who wants or needs a handgun
bigger than the .357 Magnum and who does
not want to be burdened with, or cannot
handle, the .44 Magnum adequately. Sec-
ondly, and judging from t he relatively small
sample of professional l aw enforcement offi
cers I have talked wi th and who fired the
gun, ther e will be a few departments who
will sanction the use of the .41 Magnum.
But the .41 Magnum will never have the
versatility of the .357 Magnum, and because
recoil of the .41 Magnum, though not pun-
ishing, is adequately fclt, a great many
police officers who don't get enough pistol
practice, will shy away from it.
Selfstyled experts claim that it is not
l ack of practice, but the fact that many of
today's officer s carry guns which are ballis-
tically inadequate that will make the new
caliber an ideal police gun. The man who
taught me to shoot the combat course and
who has survived untold gun - battles, -used
to harp on one t \l ne: "Learn to handle
what you got- in the hands of a capable
shot, even a .25 or a .38 will do the job.
It's not the caliber that kills, it's where
you put that slug." No matter what side of
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shooting range. The hunter is rarely able to
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couple of them.
For example, when Pete had observed the
departing geese on the morning preceding
our hunt, he noted that most of the geese
departed over the southeast firing line which
was a great distance from the lake and of
relatively low elevation. However, several
dozen flocks left over the southwest corner,
which was closest to the sanctuary, and it
had a small hill ! The wind was from the
south which would not help shooting from
either area. On the morning of the hunt,
Pete was perched on top of that little hill.
Only a dozen flocks flew over that point, but
they were relatively close. Though many
thousands of geese flew over the hunters on
the southeast, they were all out of range!
By late season, the wary Canadas have
developed a cunning habit of varying their
departure routes from the sanctuaries. Just
because the geese were flying over certain
points on the firing line a week before, does
not guarantee a repeat performance! How-
ever, most flocks do tend to use the same
departure routes for several days in a row.
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Finally, Pete had the right gun and
shell combination and he knew how and
when to fire. Between us, Pete and I have
put in over fifty years of hard goose hunting,
and we agree on one point. Small guns, light
loads, and small shot may be all right when
used by an expert shooting geese at very
close range over decoys, but they have no
place on today's firing line! Almost all shots
on the fir ing line are at maximum range and
at big tough birds. Big guns, heavy l oads,
and big shot are required to kill cleanly or
miss cleanly-and this should be the objec
tive of every hunter! Pete and I use full
choke, 12 gauge 3" Magnum doubles and
maximum load shells. On the firing line,
we often keep our doubles open as we watch
the geese approach, then load with BB's if
we judge that the geese will pass within
about 70 yards; if the range is nearer 100
yards, we load with 00 or 000 buckshot! We
don't fire until the flock is directly overhead,
and when loaded with buckshot, we flock
shoot. We either kill our geese or miss them.
It's important that you make sure that
it is legal to use buckshot in your hunting
area, and never fire at a low angle down the
firing line with buckshot, or any other shot
for that matter. One other common mistake
overeager hunters fr equently make is firing
at a flock of incoming honkers before they
begin to pass over the firing line. This
usually flares the flock from the firing line.
As the later part of the season rolls around,
many honker flocks on any sanctuary become
"firing line happy," and they are apt to
circle directly above the sanctuary until they
are three or four hundred feet high before
they head across the firing l ine. Or they may
leave the sanctuary by a route where there
is no legal firing line. In these cases, you
can only head to the fields for decoy shooting
or to favorable areas for pass shooting as
the honkers move from sanctuary to feeding
area, or between several feeding areas.
The biggest thrill in hunting feeding geese
probably lies in the fact that it's a difficult
business, and to be successful, the hunter
must plan the placing of his decoys.
Generally, the later the season, the further
honkers tend to feed from the sanctuary.
This is because they have been shot at in
the closer fields or because they have cleaned
out the choice feed in the nearby fi elds.
But, during stormy or foggy weather, they
will often put up with short rations and
again feed in fields close to the sanctuaries.
When there is no snow on the ground,
most honkers seem to prefer to graze on
tender green forage, such as winter wheat;
when this is covered by snow or not other-
wise available, they usually swarm to easy-
to-get to stands of corn, or other grains. One
of the hottest spots for a set is where a
green winter wheat field joins a corn field.
Big permanent sets of decoys will not pay
off for long periods after they have been
shot over for a few days. During these
periods the goose-wise hunter will have a
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spot wher e t he geese are feeding, a dozen
( Continued on page 44)
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(Continued from page 42)
decoys are enough! A pit or fancy blind is
rarely required; a crude weed blind, or just
l ying down in a di tch or in corn stalks will
usually suffice. If snow is on the ground, a
whi te sheet over the hunter is usually as good
as a pit.
When Roger and Mark Delaney of Hasty,
Colorado, two of the best goose hunters I
know, told me that the geese were coming
back to a big permanent set north of J ohn
Martin Reservoir after avoiding it completely
for two weeks, I couldn't wait, and Mark and
I were in the pit in the middle of this set
early thc following morning. By 9 o'clock
the geese were headed for the fields, and
we watched long strings, many with hundreds
of honkers in them, passing a few miles east
of us. A half dozen flocks broke off and came
our way. Mark called to them convincingly
and the big birds would hover just out of
gun range, but they wouldn't decoy. Instead
they turned east, let down to almost ground
level, and passed over a high prairie hill.
Mark remarked, "I'm going to dig a pit on
the top of that old bald hill! Just look at
those birds." I laughed. How could anyone
dig a pi t on a bald prairie?
Mark and Roger Delaney really did dig
a pit on the top of that bald prairie hill-
and Roger and I took our limits out of it
the first time we tried! This hill lay between
feeding areas. It was wide open except for
clumps of prairie grass, and the honkers
flying over it had never been shot at along
this route_ We found that a few decoys on
the open prairie would help pull even the
curious wide flyers within range.
Often, late season honkers will fly low over
open, uncultivated land. Watch for such low
flyways! It's usually much easier to get
permission to hunt these areas than to hunt
cultivated fields! When you find such a "hot-
spot," even a pit is not usually necessary.
Just lie down and be still until the low
flying honkers are within range-then sit
up and shoot!
Of course, late season honker hunting is
never a cinch, even for the expert who knows
all the tricks discussed-but I'm convinced
that knowing these tricks will help anyone
to kill more late season honkers around any
sanctuary in the country. .
After all this sage advice, I must admit
that I killed my two honkers on the last day
of the season last year by sheer accident and
with the aid of a cooperative cow! I was
making my way through a big maize field in
a blinding snowstorm, with my gunny sack
of half-shells over my shoulder. Visibility
was not more than 50 yards. Suddenly, I
thought I saw some pheasants running through
the maize stalks, then realized they were
geese trying to take off! I dropped my
decoys, threw the safety off my gun, and
nailed a big gander just as he left the
ground. I put out my decoys and the snow
grew lighter. Then I saw an old white faced
Hereford chasing a goose on the other side
of the field! The goose would fly about 50
yards and try to feed again, but the per-
sistent cow would keep flushing the honker!
On the fourth try, the Hereford flushed the
big honker right over my decoys and I
downed him with a load of # 2's At that
point, I couldn't have been surprised if that
hunting Hereford had tried to
retrieve my goose- but she didn't !
GUNS AUGUST 1964
RUGER'S RIM-FIRE RIFLE
(Continued from page 21)
this at the NRA show by taking the maga-
zine, dropping it on the floor, and then
jumping up and down on it_ The retaining
lips and ramps which guide the cartridge into
the chamber are made of solid alloy steel,
hence wear and tear would either be minimal
or completely absent. The test gun-a pre-
production model-had to be returned to
Ruger, and consequently it was impossible to
give the magazine extensive function tests;
all in all, we fired 225 rounds, and found no
evidence of wear and would not anticipate
any unless the total n umber of rounds fired
were on the order of 10,000 or more_
There was considerable fouling accumula-
tion since the gun was fired with a number of
brands of ammunition, but even fouling did
not appear to effect the functioning of the
gun. Disassembly of the magazine, though not
difficult, is a bit on the touchy side. Proper
re-assembly depends largely on the hexag-
onal nut and its detent for the magazine
rotating spring which must be aligned to
give the spring the tension required for rota-
tion of the cartridge carrier.
Removal of the magazine from the carbine
is from below, is accomplished easily with
thumb and forefinger. The trigger housing
contains the entire ignition mechanism, and
the 10/22 also has the now-standard bolt
hold-open latch feature. The cross-bolt safety
worked perfectly and it was not possible to
jar it into firing position. The trigger pull of
the test gun was somewhat on the hard side,
let-off was not as smooth as it could be.
Similarly, there were several instances where
the bolt hung-up on the magazine r im, and
this was readily discernible since the maga-
zine l ip did show some slight wear. Ed Nolan,
when he shipped the test gun to 10hn Amber
of the "Gun Digest," warned us that this
might occur since the gun had been assem-
bled hurriedly to make it possible for us to
meet editorial deadlines. Production guns
have not only improved triggers, but also
bolts that won't hang up.
Function tests were performed with factory
sights, using Monark, WoW Super X, Win-
chester Leader, and eel Target ammunition.
The gun is designed for the Long Rifle car-
tridge and handles standard and hi-vel ammo
without adjustments_ At first we used only
one brand of ammo, then mixed brands,
finally mixed not only brands but also ve-
locity-the Ruger 10/ 22 performed like a
well-trained circus pony! Slow and rapid
firing tests, again at first with one brand of
ammo, then mixing brands, and then mixing
brands and velocity, produced no malfunction,
though there was considerabl e fouling on the
forward part of the magazine_
Accuracy tests, fired at 100 yards and
with open factory sights, produced groups
that went slightly over four inches, but this
might well have been my fault since 100 yard
shooting with iron sights is not my spe-
cialty_ With a scope, and using eel Target
ammo, repeated groups measured 2-2 JA! " ,
with a SE wind blowing across the range at
a measured 3-5 miles per hour. 10hn and I
consider this as very good for a 10 shot
group at 100 yards.
This means that Bill Ruger's latest, the
10/22, gets the green l ight on all counts:
flawless function, good looks, good accuracy,
and price-which is set at $54.50. Still other
developments arc in the works in the South-
port plant and I'll report on them
when test guns become available.
THE BSA RALOCK
(Continued from page 33)
and chambers a fresh cartridge.
The magazine, located in the buttstock,
holds twelve Shorts or eight Long Rifle car-
tridges, depending on the model.
The .22 Long Rifle model is 43.13 inches
over-all, the _22 Short model is four inches
shorter. The pistol grip stock and a semi-
beaver-tail forearm makes it a real man-size
gun. The sight radius is 18 inches.
The sliding safety is l ocated on the top
rear of the receiver_ When set on safe, the
word "SAFE" appears correctly. When the
gun is ready to fire, the letters "AF" on the
thumbpiece are moved forward, out of line
with the "S-E" on the receiver, and a red
dot appears.
Takedown on the Ralock is very simple,
and takes less than five seconds. The barrel
retainer is l ifted, t he barrel is pulled straight
GUNS AUGUST 1964
forward out of the receiver. This also releases
the body of the action, which may be re-
moved from the bottom of the receiver_
Either model of the Ralock sold for the
U. S. equivalent of about $35.28. The cost
of manufacture proved to be considerably
higher than anticipated, and the volume of
sales was ' inadequate to warrant continued
production_
Another tbar prompted i ts demise
involved a difficulty in maintaining a reasona-
bl.e trigger pressure. Probably the main
factor for its discontinuence was the fact
that it was impossible to see if the rifle was
loaded, unless either the barrel or the action
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(Continued from page 23)
Schoyen. Possibly Lower and Schoyen learned
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soon branched out in competitive gun busi-
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son-in law, Frank Church, into the business
about 1875, a year before Colorado ceased
to be a territory and became a full-fledged
state of the Union.
The advent of the metallic cartridge
brought with it radical changes in the gun
trade. Most of the gunmakers became gun
merchants and their business gradually
changed from manufacturing to merchandis
ing and altering or repairing the products
of the eastern gun manufacturers. Carlos
Gove and some of the others were not al-
ways satisfied with the products of the
eastern manufacturers-they often rebarreled
them or altered them to suit their own ideas.
One of Gove's better known alterations was
a method of repl acing the thumb "rolling
block" operation on a Remington single shot
rifle with an under lever.
As great as Gove's prominence was, John
P. Lower's gun store in Denver was destined
to become the best known establishment
beyond the Missouri. Here you might meet
Lower's personal friends Bill Cody, George
A. Custer, Jim Bridger, or even the Grand
Duke Alexis of Russia. Or you might have
found a store full of Indians including
chiefs Ouray, Coloraw, and Persoon of
the Utes.
Lower learned the gun trade in Philadel-
phia, working for the well-known establish-
ment of Joseph C. Grubb & Co. at the age
of 18. He was with the firm as gunsmith
and salesman for 21 years, but the West
lured him across the plains in 1866. After
his brief association in business with Gove,
he struck out for himself. In addition to
his name jn big letters across the entire
front of his BlaJ-e Street store, an awning
bore the lettering !'Sharps' Rifles and Colt's
, pistols." Certainly these were two of the
most popular lines of Lower's stock in those
early days. A vast quantity of correspondence
between the Sharps Company and Lower has
been preserved; these letters reveal the pur-
chase and delivery of hundreds of the various
Sharps rifle models. Lower had known Col.
Colt personally and sold great numbers of
Colt pistols.
John Lower devoted 65 years to the gun
business. A great credit to the gun trade,
Lower had known the business as gunmakllr,
target shooter, salesman, and merchant. Most
important of all, he had been a man with
many friends.
Men who know fine target rifles will tell
you that George C. Schoyen was one of the
best craftsmen who ever placed a gun in a
customer's hand. Schoyen was a native of
Norway who carne to America soon after the
Civil War. He lived in Chicago for a time,
but migrated west in the early 1870's, find-
ing employment with Gove in Denver. Schoo
yen stayed longer with Gove than Lower,
but in the 1880's, he too struck out for him
self. Schoyen seemed to prefer partnerships,
devoting himself to producing fine guns and
letting his partners take care of the business
details. His first partner was D. W. Butt,
and in 1887 F. A. Burgen. Some years later
the famous Schoyen & Peterson partnership
was formed.
Axel Peterson, like Schoyen, was a Scan-
dinavian. Arriving in Denver in 1879, Peter-
son's reputation as a skilled gunmaker soon
became known throughout the western terri-
tory. Schoyen and Peterson did not gain
fame only for their accurately barreled target
rifles; they were skilled in all forms of gun
making. Fancy pistols, an unusual over/under
gun, and deluxe hunting rifles also carne
from their workbenches. Axel Peterson de-
signed a telescope sight which was one of
the first to offer internal adjustments.
There were other skilled men in the gun
trade in Denver and throughout Colorado,
but the "big four"-Gove, Lower, Schoyen,
and Peterson-are the names most frequently
remembered.
In 1868 the arrival of the railroad as far
west as Cheyenne, Wyoming Territory, 103
miles north of Denver, marked the arrival
also of one of the West's best remembered
gunmakers, Frank W. Freund. In this new
bustling town at the railhead, Frank and
his brother George put up a sign over their
little shack to indicate that this was the
"Wyoming Armory," operated by "Freund
Bros." From this small beginning, and later
in new, enlarged quarters the business grew
until the lettering on the Freund shop
boasted that they carried a stock of from
GUNS AUGUST 1964
500 to 1000 breech-loading guns and from
500,000 to 1,000,000 rounds of ammunition_
For a time they operated a cartridge-making
plant in Casper, Wyoming_
The Freunds were natives of Heidelberg,
Germany_ Arriving in America, Frank went
to work at Ilion, New York, for K Reming-
ton & Sons for a short time before the War
Between the States. He served eighteen
months in the Union Army, and after the
war, the West beckoned. With his brother
George, Frank set out for Nebraska City
where they operated a gunsmithing business
from 1866 to 1868. When the tracks were
laid as far west as Cheyenne, the Freunds
closed their Nebraska City shop and moved
to Cheyenne, where a Freund gun store
served the trade for the next 17 years_
On May 10, 1869, the first transcontinental
railway was completed when crews working
eastward from California met those working
westward from Cheyenne at Promontory
Point_ The Freunds were now "on the main
line" and their location became an important
outfitting point for gold seekers, teamsters
and emigrants; later buffalo hunters flocked
in to decimate the great northern herd.
Of the two brothers, Frank was apparently
the more ingenious. Twenty patents bear
his name; George's name appears on but
four. These patents covered many things
from primers, cartridges, and sights to pistol
and rifle designs. The best known of Frank
Freund's innovations were his improvements
on the Sharps breech-loading cartridge
rifles. Many famons people were among the
Freunds' customers, including General Phil
Sheridan, General George Crook, and Theo-
dore Roosevelt. Another important customer
was General George W. Wingate who, on
April 25, 1893, fired the first shots on the
famous Creedmoor target range where, under
the auspices of the National Rifle Associa-
tion of America, international rifle matches
were born.
Sharps and Remington rifles were the
favorites in those early Creedmoor matches,
so Freund's improvements on the Sharps
rifles gained not only western popularity but
also wide national recognition.
The partnership of Frank and George was
dissolved about 1881. George moved to
Durango, Colorado, where he established the
"Colorado Armory," a shop where guns and
accessories were sold, traded, and repaired.
A few years later, Frank returned East,
settling in Jersey City.
To the south of Colorado lay the Terri-
tory of New Mexico. Vast deserts and moun-
tains were encompassed in our acquisition
of this land in 1848 through the Treaty of
Guadalupe-Hidalgo which ended the Mexican
War. At first what are now the states of New
Mexico and Arizona was all New Mexico
territory, Arizona not becoming a separate
territory until 1863. Indians and Mexicans
were the principal occupants of tlus little-
known land. Yet it had been visited by the
white man before the Pilgrims landed at
Plymouth Rock. Santa Fe was the center
of trade, but the trade goods did not include
any great amount of firearms_ Early white
settlers depended principally on the military
for their arms. The Mexicans were usually
too poor to buy good guns, and every effort
was made to keep firearms from the Indians.
This was a poor market for the gun trade,
although a few gunsmiths and traders did
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done at the army posts. Our National Ar
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arms from Federal stores to emigrants and
early settlers.
A different sit uation existed in Utah Terri
tory where many members of the Mormon
Battal ion (which had built a wagon road
through New Mexico and Arizona under Col .
P. St. George Cooke in 1846) now resided
in Salt Lake City or in the outlying towns.
Gunmaker Jonathan Browning settled in
Ogden in 185l.
Browning was not satisfied to produce only
the standard caplock guns of his time, but
experimented with multishot systems. One
was a gun with a multichambered block
which could be moved sidewise at the
breech, thus making it possible to discharge
five fast shots. Another mul tishot gun at
tributed to him was a more conventional
revolving cylinder weapon somewhat like the
Miller, Billinghurst, and Bigelow pilllock
r epeating rifles. A Dragoon type revolver
resembling the Colt is also claimed as a
Browning product.
Jonathan Browning's sons John Moses and
Matthew Sandefur wer e born in Ogden. As
they grew into manhood, Matt showed an
aptitude for business while J ohn took to
gunmaking like a duck to water. It may
seem odd that J onathan Browning's search
for better multishot weapons did not im-
mediately influence his son John. We must
r emember, of course, that by the time J ohn
was old enough to design a gun, metallic
cartridges had replaced the old loose powder,
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ball, and caps of his father's earlier days.
J ohn's fi rst gun design was a single shot
breechloader with a dropping breech block,
something like the Sharps but more stream-
lined. I have in my collection one of J ohn
Brownings earliest models of this rifl e. The
gun is dated 1878, a year before t he issuance
of Browning's first patent of October 7, 1879.
The barrel is marked ".44-77" and "J. M.
Browning, Ogden, U. T.," t he side plates
bear the marki ng "J. M. Browning, U. T. ,
1878." Shown with this gun, for comparison,
is the standard single shot rifle of a later
design patented by the Brownings. Of these,
600 were made by hand. A distinct differ
ence between the Model 1878 and Model
1879 Browning is the action of the lever.
The lever on the 1878 model is pulled down
and back toward the shooter, while the 1879
model employs the rather standardized sys-
tem of being worked down and forward.
With this single shot rifle and a small
stock of other merchandise, the Browning
gun shop was launched under the name
J. M. Browning & Bro. Lettering across the
front of their little brick shop told the
world they sold "Guns, Pistols, Ammunition,
& Fishing Tackle." J . M. Browning and his
brother were then in their twenties.
The Browning fame spread far beyond the
small gun shop in Ogden. J ohn Browning's
contributions to the design of l ever action
rifles, shotguns, and automatic weapons are
well known. If the Browning local gun trade
was somewhat insignificant, in the overall
picture of far westcrn production or mer-
chandising, more guns of Browning design
probably were shipped into the West for
other dealer s to sell than those of any gun
designer; thi s would be particularly true of ,
the Winch esters which owed their design to
Browning, from the single shot "high wall"
through the '86, '92, '94, and '95 lever
action models.
Those early years in the gun trade from
1850 to 1900 were fillcd with the fast moving
tempo of exciting news, new developments,
dramatic changes, tragic wars, but from out
of all this came the building of a strong and
unified nation. No longer were our coasts
separated by untrod areas without means of
transport or communication. In all t his great
movement, few services were more important
than those services which supplied the arms
and ammunition to secure needed food,
bring an end to Indian warfare, protect new
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the .45 for both center fire and .45 matches.
Mr. Woodford chronographed his loads at
754 to 769 fps, a variation of only 11 fps.
In another test they varied only 10 fps. A
30 fps variation is called "Match Grade" .45
ammo.

CCI is credited with eliminating hang fires
(that can't be detected) and misfires, notori-
ous in 1955 Target S & W guns. A prominent
match shooter wrote, "All pistol primers are
too hard." He changed his mind after it
was proved that CCI's had proper sensitivity
in our own drop test. Sensitivity is uniform.
Early lots perform today exactly like current
prod uction.
The Texas Dept. of Public Safety recently
called in all .357 Magnum factory ammo,
due to misfires and primers flowing in the
firing pin holes of S & W guns to lock the
cylinder. Cylinders had to be hammered
open, or turned with two hands to shear off
primer extrusion. I described this in the
Jnly 1962 GUNS, and the current edition of
"The Book of Pistols and Revolvers," and
notified the factory. On March 28, 1963 the
factory admitted the complaint was justified.
To quote: "Investigation shows set back of
primers occurs in guns with tight headspace.
Considerable work with modified primers has
been done and the problem is under active
study. A solution is expected."
No doubt they will solve the problem
soon. The mills of the ammo makers grind
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We'll report on the solution promptly in this
magazine. We have nine S & W .357 Mag-
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lots of various brands of factory ammuni-
tions. All functioned perfectly with CCI
primers in reloads. I believe S & W reo
volvers would be more dependable with a
firing pin built in the frame, similar to
Ruger S.A. and Colt D.A. revolvers. We
never had a misfire or primer set back that
locked the cylinder of Colt D.A. or Ruger
Blackhawk revolvers, with any factory ammu
nition.
A major cause of poor handgun loads
with good bullets is an under charge of slow
powder, or primers that give under-ignition.
A soft primer locks a S & W cylinder, so it
won't function until the extrusion is sheared
off. Hard primers give misfires, especially if
a S & W mainspring is weak, the strain
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Gene Austin, a top bench rester, has an
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Sierra H.P. backed with 47.0 gr. 4350 and
CCl 250 Magnum primers gave 100 yard
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Probably 9 out of 10 handloaders don't get
maximum accuracy from their rifles, due to
lack of testing. A gun you think is mediocre
may have superb accuracy with the right
powder charge or bullet weight.
Charles Quinn, my Houston, Texas friend,
has bagged 36 head of big game with 37
shots from his .300 Apex with 6X Lyman
scope, up to 450 yards. A deer hit high in
the shoulder got a finishing shot. He uses
Speer's 165 gr. backed with 70.0 gr. 4350
and CCI 250 Magnum primers, at 3216 fps.
Charles and I agreed long ago these rifles
were ideal for most game. They are, but the
.300 Winchester practically killed them. This
bullet is fine in a .30-06 to the hottest .30's.
It has advantages over 150 or 180 gr. bullets
for most game, with long sustained velocity,
plenty of punch and fine accuracy.
My favorite .357 load for game up to deer
is a Speer 146 gr. H.P. with 16.5 gr. 2400
and CCI 550 Maguum primers. Speer lists
16.0 gr. maximum. In my 6" Colt Python
velocity is 1376 fps, a bit faster than in a
larger bore, slower twist 6" S & W. Varia-
tion is only 43 fps. Shack and I bagged 35
assorted varmints one afternoon with my
Python, taking turns shooting. All were clean
kills. This was a day we were both "hot,"
when we hit nearly everything we shot at.
\Ve have our "off" days too, like most hand-
gunners.
C-H Cup Nose dies swage potent looking
bullets that look reversed in loads. Locally,
it's called the "Ascender," a nickname for
an airplane with wings at the rear. Our tests
prove the CH Semi-Wadcutter H.P. expands
faster and is more potent, with better Hi-V
accuracy. It can be driven faster due to less
bearing surface.
Hollow Points that are too large and deep
look potent. Our tests prove the nose will
collapse to one side, for much l ess expansion,
unless they hit exactly nose first, which is
seldom. They nearly always tip a bit, or
strike at an angle. Best expansion is ob-
tained with Vs" drilled cavities about 14"
deep. Accuracy equals a solid nose, and
they are far more apt to give a classic mush-
room for greatly increased shock, and terrific
tissue destruction.
Bullets in any caliber have nearly no
"knockdown." An Army General said f01'
adequate "knockdown" the diameter should
be 3" or more! A fast expanding .22 is
more effective than a non-expanding .45 It's
even more effective in a nonvital spot. Bul-
lets kill by shock and tissue destruction
more than by caliber. If heavy, Lo-V bullets
are used for deep penetration on very large
game, they kill only by penetrating a vital
spot. For faster, cleaner kills on thin skinned
game use a fast expanding bullet, or one
that explodes on varmints.
Shooter's Supply, 202 S. 124th, Seattle 68,
Washington, sell assorted "Stick On Aper-
tures" for shooting or eye glasses at $1 plus
a stamped, self addressed envelope. They in-
crease the depth of field so iron sights and
targets are both sharp. Stopping down a
camera lens (using a smaller aperture) gives
greater depth of field. Apertures can be re-
moved and stored on your glasses rim. You
can check these by holding this page too
close to your eye to read. Through a small
aperture the type is sharp and clear. Try it
with a pinhole in a piece
of black paper.
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PEARL, 5 TA G
IVORY &
(Continued from page 31)
there was an unseasonably dry fall in 1962,
and hunting was hard everywhere-in some
places practically petrified. Game was high,
foliage and brush cracked like exploding
popcorn, and it took skilled, hard hunting
to get within shooting range of the wary
animals.
It was the same at the Spring Creek
Ranch. Everyone had spotted deer, most
had a shot or two at fleeting bucks, but
the lack of snow, even in early December,
had driven the big bucks downwar d into
the relatively sparse cedars and plateau
country.
Despite this, we took some dandies, after
exceptionally hard hunting. Willie Peyton
took a t wofooter; I busted a 28 inch
muley buck the second day, and Don
DeHart (Alaska outfitter down there after
trophy muleys) almost got a shot at one
in the 30 inch class.
One of the hunters, however, became in
creasingly discouraged. He was used to
hunting heavy concentrations of Texas
whitetails from a stand; and despite several
days of hard hunting, he couldn't adapt his
technique to the prevailing tough hunting
conditions.
The evening before his hunt ended, he
gave up. I overheard him phoning another
outfitter, making arrangements to meet him
at noon the next day, 50 miles away, and
make another try in a different area.
Dearing was most unhappy about it. He'd
done everything a man could do to help his
hunters connect. As a final, extra offer, he
said, "Well, let's try again at daylight.
That'll still give you time to meet yom
" man.
At daybreak, as Dearing took the fellow
in the jeep up toward new and more distant
country, a great buck broke out into a tiny
valley below them. The "give up" hunter
piled out, and in three shots from his .300
Weatherby, had downed the buck-a perfect
typical six point head with an outside
spread of 30 inches!
There are more practical and measmable
reasons for the policy of hunting a little
longer and harder than the Horatio Alger
ratio of rewardtoeffort.
First, the hunter who works at it a bit
harder and a bit longer will find his com
petition less tough. He will usually be
among the same over-all 20 per cent of
hunters who consistently score. The 80 per
cent who won't climb the extra hill; stay
the final hour; or who give up too easily
GUNS AUGUST 1964
with an "- aw to hell with it," will quit
and take off for home, or camp.
This fact not only improves the deter-
mined hunter's chances immeasurably, but
also allows the game a chance to settle
down more to normal patterns of field be
havior, and return to natural habitat. Time
after time, a canny old buck or cagey bull
has gradually returned to his normal baili-
wick after the first shooting of the season,
thinking to find things safe . and has
been met by the hunter who stuck with it .
There is also another benefit for t he
hunter who hunts a wilderness area, and
with a professional outfi tter and/ or gui de.
Time after time, I've heard a top outfitter
say to a hunter, who'd worked his head off
under adverse hunting conditions, "Well, it's
been tough going. Your time's up, but if
you can spare the time, you're wel come
to hunt another day or so."
I heard Glidden McNeel offer t wo Wyom-
i ng elk hunters some extra time, after dry
weather had made elk hunting tough ; and
one of them scored on the "bonus" day.
I've heard Don DeHart make the same
generous offer to several Alaska hunters,
after rain had kept them camp-bound un-
duly. On a polar bear hunt in the Arctic,
blizzard and "white-out" kept our party
grounded in Kotzebue for nine days. Since
no plane could get through to Point Hope,
we were stuck; and nine days of our three
week trip were wiped out through no one' s
fault. But DeHart, knowing we'd stuck
through thick and thin on other tr ips, sim-
ply extended our hunt for those extra nine
days.
The outfitting and professional guiding
business is growing enormously, basically
because most prized trophies are found in
the remaining remote areas which can't be
reached with the average hunter's equip-
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ment. Trips int o such areas are costly, and
time is the big element in success.
I know, from over 30 years' big game
hunting experience, that professional out
fitters' bacon and beans depend upon the
satisfied, "repeat" hunter. I know that many
elements can often sour any hunt; but for
the hunter who sticks with the job of
getting his trophy to the very end, any
reputable outfitter will make special plans
to get him to game; to extend his time if
necessary; and to make his trip successful.
Oppositely, I don't recall any time when
an outfitter made special effort to help the
hunter who growled about the weather;
the l ack of game, the mosquitoes, or the
hardshi ps about camp. The hunter working
wilderness country, who sticks uncomplain
ingly to the job of getting his game, will
come out both money and trophies ahead,
simply because professional hunters will
like him, and will, themselves, make that
extra effort.
The small, trifling "extras" which the
average hunter disregards, applied wit h
stick.toitiveness, combine to bring home the
prized trophies. Here are some:
1. Adopt an attitude of success; plan, if
at all possible, for an extra day's hunting.
2. Keep in good physical shape. The
prized ram or grizzly is often just over the
next rise, where most hunters are too
pooped to climb.
3. Make your rifle capable of taking ad
vantage of the long shot-it's sure to come
in trophy hunting. Tune the rifle so it's a
bit more accurate. Keep stock and scope
mount screws tight. Develop the most ac
curate loads.
4. Sight in, at least one shot, before every
trip afield. This single shot, from a cold
bore, will indicate where the first hunting
shot will go.
5. Hunt a bit farther back in, aud
higher, than the average hunter will go. The
biggest heads are usually at the upper
periphery of the game's range.
6. Hunt a halfhour earlier, and a half
hour later than most hunters will. Game
moves more at these periods; hunter com
petition is less, meat cools better.
7. When a proved hunting technique fails
in an area, or with one species, reverse it.
That is, if climbing the ridges at daybreak,
and coming back to camp via the canyon
doesu't work, then work up the canyon
bottom, and take the ridges at dusk. Many
a wise old trophy has met his end while
watching his backtrack-the hunter coming
upon him from the unsuspected direction.
The constant application of such "trifles"
in the hunting field works a magic all its
own. The seasoned biggame hunter, who
has learned such factors to the extent he
does all of them without conscious thinking,
would have a hard time describing his
hunting technique. But he's the guy who
keeps lugging in the liver and horns. And
you can bet your bottom dollar that he's
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THE CASE FOR THE CONVERSION UNITS
(Continued from page 29)
a steel one on the rear. This provides posi-
tive alignment with the original bore. The
muzzle end of the tube is threaded ahead of
the bushing and a knurled brass nut and
leather washer are provided to lock the insert
to the barrel. At the rear of the tube is a
U-shaped steel block, contoured to fit around
the top strap of the Webley revolver, and
slotted laterally across the top to allow the
insertion of the rear sight blade, which is
adjustable for elevation.
The cyli nder is quite interesting from a
design standpoint. Although bored for the
smaller cartridge, it is the same diameter as
the original .455 cylinder, but considerably
,horter, being just long enough to contain
the .22 Long Rifle cartridge. The sixshot
cylinder is un fluted and, in keeping with
British proof laws, has proof marks stamped
over each individual chamber. Like the origi-
nal, the .22 cylinder is fitted with a cam-
operated extractor which withdraws the fired
cases when the top-break action is opened.
To solve the ignition problem, that is, to
permit the nose of the hammer to strike the
rim of the .22 cartridge, the designer moved
the rear of the .22 chamber outward toward
the rim of the cylinder. But, if bored straight
forward, the chamber would not line up with
the bore, so the clever (?) designers merely
hored the chamber through the cylinder at
an angle of five degrees! This quite obviously
means that when the weapon is fired, the
bullet must make a five degree change in
direction while passing from cylinder to
barrel. This rather abrupt turn is made some-
what easier by the forcing cone being fun-
neled out to .295" at the extreme rear. It
then tapers rather slowly to bore diameter,
reaching .22" about an inch down the insert
barrel.
The Parker-Hale unit is easily installed in
the Webley. The two screws holding the
cylinder clamp are removed and the clamp
dropped toward the bottom of the weapon.
Now, with the action opened, the .455 cylin-
der can be easily withdrawn. It is not neces-
sary to remove any more of the original
parts in order to install the kit. The .22
insert barrel can now be easily installed,
keeping the open side of the Ushaped block
toward the top of the weapon. The insert
tuhe is then locked into the barrel, the .22
HYSCORE means SUPER ACCURACY!
cylinder is dropped into place, and the cylin-
der clamp is replaced. All that remains is to
fire the weapon and adj ust the sigh ts.
My first attempt to test fire the .22 Webley
was doomed because of an atrocious trigger
pull that went no less than nine pounds. An
application of a stone to the sear produced
a much more acceptahle pull, and I re-
turned to the range to see how this conversion
would group. The results were little better
than my first attempt, though I used a rest
and a two-handed hold. The shots went con-
sistantly high, and could not be brought
down into the bull, even with maximum
sight adjustment. The group, if you could
call it that, was a scattered three inch circle
in the four, five, and six rings. At first I
thought that this was a product of my own
poor shooting, but a competition shooter got
practically the same resul ts.
Examination of the target gave us a clue
to the possihle cause of this rather poor
shooting. Some of the ten shot "patterns"
showed that several of the bullets had key-
holed, hitting the target while practically on
their side. We took the Wehley home, where
we fired several rounds into cotton batting,
recovering the bullets. You didn't need to
take a close look at these bullets to see that
they had acquired a shape somewhat akin to
a banana. It seemed that the five degree turn
made by the bullets as they traveled from
cylinder to barrel was the culprit.
To further substantiate this, we loaded the
Webley with RWS .22 BB Caps and 10,
there was an honest group in the target.
Apparently the little round balls negotiated
the curve with no trouble, and were chuck-
ing into the paper in measurable groups. As
yet, I have found no way to keep that sloping
chamber from taking its toll when regular
.22 ammunition is used.
The .22 caliber Luger conversion kit,
manufactured by Erma Werke, of Munich,
Germany, is distributed in this country by
Interarmco, Alexandria, Va. The Luger kit
lists for $39.95 and comes packed in a
sturdy, attractive carton which is flock-lined
and compartmented for the various parts of
the converter. Also, included is a cleaning
rod of appropriate length.
The Luger kit is considerably more com-
(Continued on page 56)
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personal adjustment. Price, $10.95.
CATCH-PELLET trap feat ures a pyramidical
design and patented inner slide which abso-
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BB's and air or C02 pellets. Retail price,
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NEW EXPERT series of gun caddies, made
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sizes, ranging from a pistol case to a case
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$17.95 for the pistol case to $34.95 for the
two-gun rifle case. These cases have many
outstanding features to protect your guns.
Complete details on the Mastra line are
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THE FAMED .30 caliber M-l Carbine, of
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manufactured parts, and a highly accurate
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TIllS MAYBE YOUR last chance to get
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MAGNA LEATHER COMPANY, Dept. G-8,
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holster and belt combinations shown in their
free 1965 catalog_ Shown here is the Larado
outfit which features a low cut holster with
safety strap. Choice of black or brown, in
choi ce saddl e leather. Priced from $16.95,
plain, to $24.95 for the flower carved design_
IVER JOHNSON's new Model 67 Viking
revolvers again have the famous " I-Iammer
the Hammer" feature, fitst registered in 1904.
Thi s important safety feature will be found
on all of the .22, .. 32, and .38 caliber Vikings.
See them at your dealer now or write to
Iver Johnson Arms & Cycle Works, Dept.
G-8, Fitchburg, Mass. for brochure.
VIC'S FOR GUNS, Dept. G-8, 2413-D, Gal-
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foremost source for surplus commercial and
mil itary rifl e and pi stol ammunition. They
have over 600 calibers in stock, and offer
same day shipping and prepaid shipping
charges on orders over $50. A stamp will
bring you a compl ete li st of calibers avail-
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HIGH QUALITY AND LOW PRICE are
features of the new 20 power spotting scope
made by Bausch & Lomb Inc., Rochester,
N.Y. The Bal scope Twenty appeals to any-
one who wants a durabl e general purpose
scope. It is 15% inches long, and weighs
only 22 ounces. Available at your local
dealer under $25.00.
GUNS AUGUST 1964
THE COMFORT OF a true Indian moccasin
with the snug fit of a laced shoe are yours
in this Alaskan Tracker, by Alaska Sleeping
Bag Co., Dept. G-8, 334 N.W. llth Ave.,
Portland 9, Ore_ Priced at $9.95 per pair,
they feature double stitching and tough tan
elk leather. Sizes 6-12, E width only.
LYMAN GUN SIGHT Corporation has re-
leased the 43rd edition of their famous Re-
loading Handbook. The new edition is ex-
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of ammunition reloading. For beginners, the
Lyman Handbook is a must. For the experi-
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plicated than the Webley and consists of
three maj or components; the insert barrel,
the breechblock assembly, and a tenshot, .22
magazine. As the insert barrel for a standard
four inch Luger measures seven and one
quarter inches over .. all, a sl eeve or spacer
to cover this additional length is included .
The insert barrel of the Luger has a steel
bl ock at the breech end, as an integral par t
of the tube. The block is slotted at the top
to take the .22 extractor claw and ahead
of the block the tube is turned to dimen
sions which exactly fill the 9mm chamber.
The next three and one half inches of the
insert tube are a snug, sliding fit in the 9mm
barrel, thus insuring positive alignment. The
remainder of the tube is covered by the
barrel sleeve when the kit is installed, and is
threaded to take two knurled steel lock nuts.
The breech mechanism, quite similar to
t he original Luger action, incorporates the
same toggle principle, and contains its own
lighter recoil springs. There are two of these
coil springs; the larger acts sol ely as a
recoil spring, absorbing the recoil and closing
the action after a shot is fired; the smaller
absorbs a portion of the recoil on t he open
ing part of the cycle, is retained by the sear
when the action is in the full back position,
then is used to drive the striker foreward
when t he trigger is pulled for the next shot.
The installation of the Luger kit, t hough
somewhat more complicated than the Webley,
is still relatively simple. First, t he Luger is
"fieldstripped" in the normal manner. While
it is not imperative that the ejector be reo
moved it makes insertion of the .22 tube
easier, and the unit does seem to work better
with the ejector removed. The insert t ube is
installed in the 9mm barrel, keeping the
extractor notch to,ward the top of the weapon,
and locked in place. The .22 breechblock
assembly is slipped into the receiver and the
original connecting pin replaced. As the .22
unit contains its own recoil springs, t he
original connecting link is eliminated, and
the receiver can easily be slipped onto the
frame. Replace the sideplate, insert the .22
magazine, and the conversion is complete.
One point of interest is the striker pin,
which protrudes from the rear of the toggle
assembly, when cocked, and serves as ' a
positive indication that the pistol is ready
to fire.
As soon as the Erma conversion kit was
installed in one of my Luger pistols, I was
off to the local range to see how it would
perform. Loaded with high velocity ammo,
the first shot produced an unexpected resul t
-the magazine fell completely out of the
gun, landing on the ground. The magazine
was wiped clean and put back into the gun,
with a double check made to be sure it was
properly latched. When the next shot was
fired, the magazine stayed in the gun, but
the spent cartridge case hung up between the
breechblock and the receiver. This could
only mean that t he breechbl ock had not been
driven completely back to a full open posi.
tion, or the case would have been kicked out
by the ej ector.
The magazine showed rub marks on the
feed lip, and when it was latched up into
position, this caused the action to bind. The
lips were filed down to where they would no
longer rub, the magazine was agai n loaded,
and no malfunctions occured. However, this
GUNS AUGUST 1964
was with hi gh velocity ammo. The i nstruc
tion booklet said that the unit would work
wit h standard velocity also, so a cl ip load
of this was tried. Only about three or fou r
rounds functioned sati sfactoril y. I'm sure
that taking a few coils off of the r ecoil spring
woul d correct thi s, but I haven' t worked up
enough courage as yct t o do t his.
The accuracy of the Luger conversion is
not too bad, but it isn't exactly aweinspiring,
either . My groups, as well as t hose of sev-
eral of my more experi enced shooti ng friends,
averaged about two inches. This may be
good cnough to keep you in the bl ack on a
standard slowfire target. it certai nl y does
not compare with the better .22 target hand
guns available. Not only were t he groups
rather large, they were high, and to t he l eft
of the bullseye, using the normal six o'cl ock
hold. Because the sights are not adjustable,
the only alternati ve is the use of 'Kentucky
windage," which leaves a lot to be desired.
One other small i tem worth mentioning is
case distor tion. Inspection of the fired cases
showed that each had a bul ge on one side,
corresponding t o the position of the fced
ramp cut into the bottom of the chamber. I
must say, though, that I did a lot of firing
with this unit and have neyer had a split
case.
The Colt conversion unit is available
through any Colt dealer for $49.95. This
unit can also be used wi t h the Colt Super
.38 automatic or any surplus GI .45 Auto
such as those made by Ithaca, Remington,
etc. It will not howevcr, fit the Colt Com-
mander . Like the Lu ger unit, the Col t kit
consists of threc maj or components; the
slide, .22 barrel, and the .22 magazine. Also
included is a lighter . r ecoil spring and
another slide latch to fit the conversion slide.
This kit differs from the other two in that,
whi le it does r ed uce the caliber of the pistol,
it retains t he recoil of a much heavi er car-
tridge. This is accompli shed through the use
of a fl oating chamber which util izes the
expanding gases to mul tiply the recoil of the
.22 cartridge approximat ely four ti mes. While
this may not be an inducement to use the
conver ted pistol for competition or plinking,
it does allow one to practice much less ex-
pensivel y while retaining the r ecoil charac-
teristics of a heavier celiber. Whether this
additional recoil is desirable in a conver sion
kit will depend solely on the opinion of the
user.
The Colt kit, having its own slide, exposes
more sur face than either of the other two
so it may do well to comment on the finish,
which is equal to any of the commercial
grade Col ts. The sides of the sli de are done
in a polished blue while the top is a dull
finish to prevent glare. The slide al so boasts
target type sights, the front being undercut
while the rear is click adj ustable for both
windage and elevati on.
As with the Luger, the Colt must be fi eld-
stripped in order to install the adapter. The
original .45 r ecoil spring guide, plug, and
barrel bushing are used with the conversion
kit. Complete reassembly of the pistol, using
the three original parts previously set aside,
plus the light recoil spr ing that comes with
the kit is easily accomplished by following
the instructions furnished.
The Colt conversion unit gave no problems,
j ust as it came from the factory. It r equired
no t inkering, and has yet to produce its fi rst
malfunction. It did require a mi nor sight
GUNS AUGUST 1964
adjustment t o get it shooting in the black,
but once it was zeroed, it gave consistantly
good accuracy, even in my inexperienced
hands. We tried several groups using a
tighter barrel bushing from an accurized
target .45, but there was no noticable im-
provement. The unit could, I suppose, be
accurized, but I doubt that the expense
woul d be warranted.
All three of the conversion units men-
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vided an economical means of shooting a
gun t hat was designed for r ather expensive
ammunition. But, all had one or more draw-
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I can, perhaps, see the .22 conversions as
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in Washington could weigh heavily in our
favor. These battles will have to be fought
sooner or later_ The sooner the better!
Many of the letters we have received con-
tain suggestions for improvement of the
rough draft of the pro-gun law which we
published in our May issue. It needed im-
provement; has been improved since that
publication. Every suggestion received has
been given careful consideration. We cannot
possibly discuss all of those suggestions in
print, but here are a few that show how
closely our efforts are being studied_
Unanimous and unqualified approval has
been expressed by our readers for our in-
tention to write into our bill a correct, official
interpretation of the Second Amendment.
Anti-gun forces have found just one word
in that Amendment from which they could
draw confusion as to its meaning- the word
"militia_" The following excerpt from one
letter refutes that confusion and provides
hard-hitting ammunition for every defender
of the right to keep and bear arms:
"As a professor of English, with
some reputation in the specialty of
semantics--and a shooting hobbyist-
I have just completed a careful and
I think thorough study of the word
'militia' as used in the Second Amend-
ment_ Words change in meaning as is
indicated by the very definition of
'semantics.' But any written word must
be accepted in the meaning it had
when it was written ... _
"Every source contemporary with
the writing of the Bill of Rights which
I have consulted agrees that 'militia'
meant 'a body (group) of citizens en-
gaging in military activities.' One
source adds the phrase, rather telling
from the pro-gun point of view, '_ ..
not applicable to professional soldiery_'
"My fairly current Webster's Inter-
national Dictionary (Unabridged) ap-
proximates this in one of its several
definitions (. . . 'A body of citizens
enrolled as a regular military force
for periodical instruction, discipline,
and drill _ . _ etc.'), but then goes on:
'In the United States the term militia
as used in the Constitution refers to
the forces (National Guard)
formerly known as the State Militia.'
"The words 'as used in the Consti-
tution' are appalling to any scholar,
who must know that there was no
'National Guard,' nor 'State Militia'
either, at the time the Constitution
was written. Webster's confounds its
own definition, in fact, by further
stating that the militia, as it defines
it, was created by 'Act of Congress
(32 Stat. 755)' in 1903!
- "A word written-in 1789 cannot pos-
sil:!ly have meant something not cre-
ated until 114 years later!
"But even accepting the fact that
jurists (even at Supreme Court level
-and to say nothing of legislators)
are not necessarily scholars in the field
of semantics, it should be obvious to
even the lay reader that the phrases
'A well-regulated militia, being nec-
essary to the security of a free state,"
are merely prelude to what comes
after. They merely tell you why 'the
right of the people to keep and bear
arms, shall not be infringed.' This is
the meat of the Amendment; and it
does not say 'the right of the militia
to keep and bear arms'; it says 'the
right of the people.'
"'The people' means exactly the
same thing now that it meant then;
and if we are to remain a nation of
free men, that meaning must never
be changed, either in semantics or in
politics."
We suggest that this be memorized and
freely quoted!
Two letters beg us to rephrase our law
regarding ownership of arms by persons con-
victed of felony. Both writers confess convic-
tion on charges of felony, many years ago_
But they have lived blameless lives since (in
one instance, for more than 20 years), and
they ask: "We paid our debt to society, long
ago. Weare respected citizens in our com-
munities now; we think we have earned the
right of forgiveness. And there are many like
us; more than you would think." (The letters
were from far-separated sources; the plural
pronouns here merely combine the pleas.)
Others, a few, protested our footnoted
statement that we "will not attempt to legal-
ize 'pen guns,' 'belt-buckle' guns, or other
such odd-ball weapons, except for the pro-
tection of collectors." On the advice of every
person consulted (excepting the writers of
those letters), we must stand on that state-
ment. Sympathetic though we truly are to any
argument against any firearms restriction, it
seems to us too difficult to make a case for
the practical desirability of such weapons-
and the criminal and accident case against
them is too strong- to warrant wasting any
part of our strength on them .
Similarly, we must reject the writers (per-
haps a half a dozen) who have berated our
lack of courage in not fighting for the right
to carry without license. We believe that, if
we can obtain the stipulation that police
authorities must issue carrying licenses at
modest fee unless the police can and do
prove that the applicant has a criminal rec-
ord or is otherwise incompetent, we will have
solved 99 per cent of the problem. True,
there would still be a "restriction," but
surely not an intolerable one-especially
when it is weighed against the practical
realities of what you can't possibly achieve
and what you can reasonably hope to ac-
complish_
The Pro-Gun Law is taking shape, on
paper, and in the minds of many political
leaders. It is not yet perfect; problems of
procedure remain to be solved; legal mazes
have to be threaded. But it is far advanced
from where it stood last December. It is an
untried colt as yet, but it shows promise.
We must not saddle it with more weight
than it can carry; but we suggest that you
should not under-rate it, eitheL The colt will
run; this is your invitation to back him- an
open invitation to every shooter in America,
regardless of which shooting sport he favors,
regardless of which magazine he reads or of
which group he is a member_
Are you with us, or against us?
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smith can do it in a couple of minutes. Now
the M 94 has a new lease on life (as if it
needed it), and we have a scope on one of
our old favorites.
Crow Records
Not too far away from my home, there is
a very active crow roost and birds trade
right over my place. When Wightman Elec-
tronics, Inc., Box 989G, Easton, Md., sent
us their new crow calling r ecord, I could
not resist the temptation. I set the el ectric
game caller up, and when the first black
robbers made their appearance, I turned on
the caller. That record sounds like a first
rate crow fight, and the birds came piling in
fast and furious. The record, WC-3, r etails
for $2.50, and Wightman's have a great
many other records; they also make the
"Call of the Wild" record player.
Canadian Ammo
Canadian Industries Limited, Box lOG,
Montreal, Quebec, Canada, shipped us some
test ammo after we had a session with one
of their ballistics men not long ago here in
our offices.
We gave the C-I-L trap and skeet loads a
good going over for the past several weeks,
and found that they compare favorably with
our domestic ammo and the stuff that we
handload. Pressure-sealed crimps hold up
very well, and autoloaders and pump guns
were used to check the Canadian shells.
Perhaps the most severe test for paper hulls
is the wear test. A magazine is filled with
live rounds, and the rounds are being
ejected manually after feeding into the
chamber. This test is repeated with each
shell 20 times, and the C-I-L stuff came
through this one as well, if not a bit better,
than domestic paper hull loads. They pat-
terned ok, and we were completely satisfied
with their performance.
When we talked to the C-I-L man here
and he showed us some of the new center-
fire rifle ammo, we had to look twice, then
blinked once, and then we looked again. The
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bullets had nylon tips ! The Canadians dis-
covered, just as we did, that t he soft lead
tips on bullets can get an awful beating,
and that this beating can either ruin an
otherwise perfectly good round, or that the
bullet will do some pretty crazy things when
the point of it is bashed around. The
"Sabretip," wi th its thick jacket and a
nylon tip, combines mushrooming properties
and excellent ballistics of the SP bullet for
smooth functioning, yet it can be handled
just like a military load. The Sabre tip does
mushroom very well, and presently it is
available in '06, .300 Savage, .303, and .308
Winchester. We checked the accuracy of
the 180 grain '06 loads, and in our G&H
custom rifle, groups averaged a bit under 2"
at 100 yards from a solid rest.
C-I-L makes ammo for most of the stand-
ard calibers, and their .243 loads in the
super-accurate Winslow rifle, did as well as
some of the factory ammo we have tried
the gun with. The Canadian brass is boxer
primed and fully reloadable, and in six re-
loadings of the brass, I have not been able
to detect any metal changes, split necks, or
case head separation. Some sporting goods
stores are now stocking this imported ammo,
and C-I-L hopes to have complete distribu-
tion by the time the hunting season rolls
around once again.
The Daisy CO
2
200
This semi-automatic pistol, operated with
a Daisy C02 J ett cylinder, has several note-
worthy features. Let's take a look at some
of the gun's statistics. The Model 200 shoots
. 177 B.B.'s, the magazine holds 175 B.B.'s in
the main storage magazine, while the shoot-
ing magazine holds five .B.B.'s. With the C02
Jett cylinder in place, the gun weighs 26
oz., barrel length is 7lj2", over-all length of
the gun is 11%2 inches. The Patridge type
target rear sight is fully adjustable for
windage and elevation, while t he front sight
is an undercut ramp type sight. Since this
gun does qualify as a practice target gun, it
should be noted here t hat the sight radius
is 9% inches, that the trigger is fully grooved
and breaks cleanly at 3112 Ibs.
Daisy makes available a large and a small
Jett C02 cartridge, and in case you want to
use the small one, a special plastic adaptor
comes with gun. The B.B.'s have an average
velocity of about 400 fps, and the small J ett
will fire abont 100 B.B.' s, while t he large one
will fire about 150. Grips, and what normally
would be the slide in an automatic, are
made of pl astic, while the barrel is a seam-
less steel barrel. The entire styling of t he
Model 200 is that of a target pistol, right
down to the thumb rest stock. And-let me
add right now-the gun does shoot like a
target gun. First shooting was done from
15 feet, and once the gun was sighted in and
I was familiar with its operation, I backed
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off to the 25 foot line. Shooting from a rest,
the best five shot group measured exactly
%, of an inch, the worst group went 1112
inches, and I rather suspect that I pulled
one shot which then would account for the
vastly enlarged group. And even if this shot
was not yanked, accuracy is still excellent.
The gun retails for $17.95, complete with
B.B.'s and a J ett C02 cylinder.
Herrett's Shooting Stars
Steve Herrett, Box 741G, Twin Falls,
Idaho, has a new handgun stock, and he
dubbed it "Shooting Stars." We got one
for our snub-nosed Python, and before
putting them on the gun, we fired a cylinder-
full with the factory grips. Then swapped
grips, and fired another r ound. The differ-
ence was quite amazing, and the most
amazing thing is the fact that these are
not custom stocks. Steve has them for almost
all makes and models, and we showed our
gun with the Shooting Stars stocks to a
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couple of the local handgunners. They all
like them, felt that they were comfortable,
and that the hand took less of a beating
from recoil than with the factory grips. And
the price is only $9.95 !
Savage-Anschutz Model 153
This is the first of the new Savage
Anschutz guns we received at GUNS Maga.
zine for testing, Chambered for the .222
Remington cartridge, the gun is very nicely
finished, has a U. S. style stock, but other.
wise closely resembles the Anschutz .222
that we reported on over a year ago. The
Model 153 has an adjustable, single stage
trigger that breaks at 3% Ibs. as the gun
comes from the factory. Hooded ramp front
sight with gold bead and fol ding leaf rear
sight are standard, and the receiver is
drilled and tapped for scope and peep sights,
but retains the slipon dovetail scope rails
of Anschutz design. The box magazine holds
three rounds and one round in the chamber,
and the overall appearance of the gun is
pleasing, The test gun, serial # 443323, has
the typical Anschutz safety at the left rear
of the bolt, a position that requires some
manipulating to get the safety off in a hurry.
The Model 153 weighs about 6% lbs. and
has an over-all length of 43" and a 24"
barrel.
Shooting with John Amber, editor of the
"Gun Digest," the gun was fi r st tested wi th
factory ammo, and then with handloads.
With Remington 50 grain bullets, I fir ed a
five shot group that measured 1
1
%6, but the
fifth shot was called, The first four shot
group measured 1%", while J ohn's group
went inch. With Sierra's 53 gr. BT,
HP Benchrest bullet and 24 gr. of Ball C,
Lot #2, groups averaged 1%" and J ohn's
best 4 shot group measured a scant 1%6
inch, Later tests wi th Federal's factory
ammo at 50 yards gave repeated 5 shot
groups that measured inch on an outdoor
range, and we understand that similar
groups have been fired on the Savage
indoor range repeatedly, The Model 153
is a handsome gun with inherent accuracy,
and the price tag of $175 is therefore
not unreasonable.
G-66 Products
The Jet-Aer Corporation has some new
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now they have a new wrinkle in their
packaging, and one that we like a great
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it, you can easily control how much of the
product you want to squeeze out. This is
the same bluing compound that we have
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the directions, you'll get a real fine job.
Really new is the G66 Spray Gun Sight
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THE S&W AI MAGNUM-BALLISTICS REPORT
Smi th tr easur es his old S&W .44 Special
"Triple Lock" that ser ved him well. He says,
"It was made when S&W fitted and finished
guns better than any current gun in the
world." Today he generally uses a .357 for
hunting and defense. Cooper , who also used
a .44 Special for years, now uses a .357. " I t
takes big mule deer with one shot, bags
coyotes for bounties, and does everything a
r evolver shoul d do," accor ding to him. He
uses it for fas t and fancy exhibition shooting,
and a gr eat deal of varmint and game hunt-
ing. Another dedi cated handgunner , Caddy
McCall, who is associated with us in testing,
says a .357 is just right for any use a r evolver
is made for.
(Continued from page 18)
expands to a full inch.
Using 17.0 gr. AL8, we got a sever e sharp
crack, and seuled on 16.5 gr. with CCI 350
Magnum primers. Thi s starts at 1308 fps
f or 797 fp muzzle ener gy. Accuracy wasn't
as good as with 2400; perhaps because
velocity vari ati on was 128 fps.
Thou gh Bull seye sh oot s well with 4.0 to
5.5 gr. at 50 yards, too much gets errati c
pr onto and our most accurate l oad with this
bullet is 8.5 gr. Unique and CCI 350 Mag
num primer s, for 1108 fps. Maximum devia
ti on is only 16 fps. With superb accuracy and
569 fp muzzle energy, it's the most practi cal
cast bullet load. It holds accuracy to beyond
100 yards, and is adequate for everything
except game larger than most people hunt
with r evolvers.
For fine bl ack powder accuracy, use 26.0
gr. FFFg. I detest the messy stuff, and think
smokeless powder is a gr eat invention.
C H makes .410 semiwadcutter swaging
di es for their excellent SwagOMati c press,
and forming dies to draw .44 halfjackets to
.405. We used DIVCO .38 lead wire that
worked dandy, and because .210 gr. bull et s
gave a bit of leading, we settled on a 175
gr. These perform li ke a circus pony with
21.5 gr. 2400 and CCI 350 Magnum primers.
They start at 1521 fps for 898 fp muzzle
ener gy ! Vel ocity spr ead i s only 36 fps, the
most uniform HiV loa d we fi r ed, and well
within specs for "match" ammo.
The C H bullets are potent. Firing agai nst
a slab of r einfor ced concr ete cr eates a 5"
crater %" deep, as ' bullets destroy them
selves into fragments. Loads wer e even
mor e destruct ive after drilling the nose
deep with the Vs " dr ill in the Forster.Appelt
Holl ow Point Accessor y. Lacking a Cr uci
form P unch, that I designed for cutting an
X on bullet noses, I used a pocket kn i fe.
Potatoes tossed in the air simply explode
and disappear when hit with these bullets.
Back Lyman's .410 rou nd ball with 4.0 gr.
Bullseye for gallery loads. Lube l ead ball s
(or half jacketed bullet s) with Swagema.gic
Lube, which "dri es dry." It's made by G&Il,
Box 804, Nor th Ridge, Calif. Seat the balls
nearly flush with the case mouth and crimp
heavily. They print low, but are good for
cl ose range practice.
Shot loads for snakes or close aerial tar
gets, work well with 5.0 gr. Bullseye. Make a
. 405 wadeutter, and cut 7l, " felt wads. Seat
these with a dowel over a very thin card wad,
with about 15 pounds pressure. We fill ed the
cases nearly to the mout h with Illinois Cop
per plated shot to eliminate l eadi ng. Cut
over-sho t wads from milk carton; seat, crimp,
and seal with white glue.
For blank or wax bullet s, drill flash hol es
with a # 26 drill. File a flat on rims for
positive identi fication. And never use those
alter ed cases for regul ar loads.
For. smokeless blanks, use one-half of a
.30-06 GI Blank char ge. Press case mouths
against a very li ght card and seal li ghtly
with white glue. Blank Fire powder is not a
propellant and shoul d be used with caut ion.
I t will wr eck a gun with any type of bullet.
For black powder blanks, fi ll a case full of
FFFg and compress the light card wad,
GUNS AUGUST 1964
sealing as above. Use with care. For wax
loads, sharpen case mouths with a deburring
t ool, and press unprimed cases in %" thick
blocks of wax sold for this purpose. Best
accuracy is with CCI 350 Magnum primers,
though these loads lack the fine accuracy of
Speer's plasti c Target-38's which are not
available in .41 caliber. Be sure to clean
guns well after shooting wax bullets.
None of my law enforcement or gun-nutty
fri ends are enthused about a .41 Magnum.
My shooting buddy, Kenneth Shackelford,
expressed my views. Said Shack, "A .44 Mag-
num is best for game l ar ger than deer, and a
.357 is better for smaller game, varmints or
selfdefense. A Remington .221 Fireball with
a K-4 Weaver glass is far superior to any
r evolver for precision hits on varmints, game
or t ar gets at l ong range. The .41 Magnum is
good, bu t who needs one ?"
Exhibition shooter, D. L. Cooper, served
with the Border Patrol a nd the Highway
P atrol , is a dedi cated hand gunner and hand-
loader. So is ex-Deputy U. S. Marshall, R. B.
Smith, who served with distincti on. These
men have had 23 gunfi ghts in the line of
duty, and they won 'em all. Both have large
handgun batter ies, but they don't want a
.41 Magnum when the chips are down, or for
hunting.
Tell us t he make
and model of your shot -
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An FBI Firearms Instructor says a .38
Special is ideal for pol ice ; officers need more
practice for gr eater effici ency. And they can
have i t on a limited budget with .38 Special
r eloads. The man behind the gun is far
more important than the caliber. A .38 shoots
completely through a man. That's excessive
penetration. Fast expanding hollow points
gr eatly increase the shock, and r educe pene-
tration and ricochets on city streets. They
are easily made with a Forster-Appel t Hollow
Point Accessory I desi gned for t heir excellent
case trimmer.
About all that I can add is this : I think
that we are getting t oo many slightly new
cal ibers, and most of us are not
shooting the older ones enough.
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AT LAS MODEL 65 / S" .. " - " 28 & 4 10-S.Non, Se1.Trig. $ 1 98
ATLAS :MODEL 8 7 " .. " - .. 12, 1 6, 20- S .:-.ron.SeI. Tr ig . $210
ATLAS MODE L 9 5 " - .. 1 2. 16. 20-S.Non.Sc1. Tri g . $ 2 20
ATLAS MODEL 2 00 S b y S - Ga . 16. 12, 2 0, 4 10 - 0. Tr ig . $ 160
ATLAS MODEL 208 .. .. t , - .. 12, 16, 20-Mag.-D. T ri g. $ 1 65
ATLAS MODEL 500 " " .. - .. 10, 1 2 . 2 0 - Ma g- ,-D. T ri g. $ I 9n
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COMPLETE LINE OF FOREIGN
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Also ava il abl e for : Wi nch est er Mod .
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.22 Mod . 12; S pringfield 45-70
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$80.00, F i tti ng & Dluing chargcs
$ 35. 00.
Dea ler I nq ui ri e s I nv ited
63
THE GUN MARKET
Classified ads, 20c per word insertion including name and address. Payable
in advance. Minimum ad 10 words. Closing date October 1964 issue (on
sal e August 25) is July 7. Print ad carefully and mail to GUNS MAGAZINE,
8150 North Central Park Blvd., Skokie, III.
BINOCULARS, SCOPES & SIGHTS
SCOl.)E 1\fOUN'.rS-Brochure 19G will help yOU select the
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BINOCULAR SPECI ALIS'l'S. All makes repaired. Author-
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BOOKS
ADDllESS COLONEL NEY for his NOTES on GUER-
RILLA WAll. $3.50 postpaid. Box 6303. N.W. Station.
Washington, D.C 20015.
LUGEll COLLECTORS. shooters. dealers. Illustrated
Ident.ification Key to 103 Luger variations. Easy. accurate.
First edition. $2.00 pod.1\:[. B. M:ittleman, Box 266G.
Saugatuck 8ta .. Westport. Conn.
CAUBTNE MANUALS! Copyrighted revision of Army &
AF Technical & li'icld Manuals. over 170 pages, 120 illus-
trations. 124 major topics. l{ugged manual binding. 6"x9".
Covers every aspect of use & rebuilding of all models .30
carbine. Published @ $3.98, special sale only $2.98. Nor -
mount armament. Box 21lCBGU. Forestgrove, Oregon.
Dealers inquire.
CAMPINC EQUIPMENT
SLEEPING BaGS. 100 styles; tent-camping equipment
specialist. Send for 96 page catalogue. Morsan, 810-T,
u.oute 17. Paramus. New J ersey.
COLLECTORS
NEW COLLECTOR SERVICE-Rare military books. man-
uals. war relics. weapons. uniforms. helmets.
medals. isnsignia. documents. photos. paintIngs. pr1Ots.
44 Page Illustrated Catalogue 50 refundable with pur -
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CIVIL WAR and Custer Period Relics. List 15. Thomp-
son's, Box 164. Havelock. North Carolina.
It'ULJ.J SI::E working model 1842 percussion pistol. All
working parts precision machined fr om steel. Side plates
solid brass. Gun comes completely assembled and working.
YOli flnish sanding stock, polish and blue parts. Comillete
$10.00 Postpaid. Stanley Morgan. Box 61, Warehouse
oint. Conn.
KENNEDY MEMENTOS. coins, medals . coat-of-arms
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Hwy., Hudson, Mich.
PISTOL LAvVS. Booklet descr ibing current pi stol
r egulalions of all states $1.00. ll'ederal Gun Laws Booklet
$1.00. Henry SchleSinger, 415 East 52nd St. , New York
22E. N.Y.
ATTENTION-COLLECTORS & SHOOTEItS: U.S. M1
Garand HHle Cal. 30-06, :Perfect-$19.95. U.S. 1\:9
Cal. 30, Original, Excel.-$69.95. U.S. Mod. 1903 Spnnl!.-
fi eld 1Ufles. Cal. 30-06, Hi gh Numbers. V.G.- $39.90.
Excel. - $44.95, Low Numbers. V.G.-S29.95. U. S. 1't10d.
1903A3 Springfield Rifies, Cal. 30-06. V. G.-$42.95. 1'er-
fect- $49.95. U.S. Mod. 1917 Enfield Rillles. Cal. 30-06.
V.G.-$29.95; Select \ Vinchester or Remlngton-$34.95.
Brit. Lee-Enfield #1 MK III Rifles. Cal. 303. V.G. -
$14.H5. Bril. Lee-Enfield #4 MK. I RiOes. Cal. 303. V.G.-
$18.95. Brit. Lee-Enfield #5 Jungle Carbine, Cal. 303,
V.G.-$24.95. Brit. Pat. 14 Enfield Rift es. Cal. 303. V.G.
-$19. 95. German Kar 98 K Mauser Rifles, Cal. 8mm. V. G.
-$2995 ' Select-$34.95. German :Hod. 11/84 Mauser
lUHcs', Cal. llmm. Good- $18.95. Hungarian Mod. 43:M:
Mannlicher Rifles. Cal. 8mm Mauser, V. G.-$34.95. Rus
sian Mod. 91/30 Moisin lUfi es, Ca l. 7.62, Good-$9.95,
V.G.-$12.95. U.ussian Mod. 38 Moisin Carbines, Cal.
7.62. V. Q. -$19.95. nussian Mod. 1940 Tokarev Semi -Auto
Rifles, Cal. 7.62. V. G.-$34.95; Select-$39.95. lt ussian
Mod. 1938 Tokarev Semi -Auto Rifles, Cal. 1.62. V.G.-

1943 (98) Mauser Hi fles. Cal. 8mm. Excel.-$34.95. Bra-
zilian Mod. 1908 (98) Mauser Short Rifles. Cal. 7mm.
Good or Better- $39.95. Persian Mod. 98/29 Mauser Car-
bines. Cal. 8mm, V.G. - $34.!l5; Select-$39.95. Persian
1\1od. 1951 Mauser Carbines , Cal. 8mm, V.G.-$34.95; Per-
fect- $49.95. Ital. Mad. 91 Carcano Rifles. Cal. 6.5mm.
Good- $9.95. Ital. Mod. 3S Carcano Rifl es, Cal. 6.5mm,
V.G.-$14.95. French Mod. 1916 Mannlicher Berthier
Rifles, Cal. 8mm, Good-$9.95. French Mad. 1908/15 Mann-
Hcher Berthier Rifles, Cal. 8mm, V.G.-$9.95. German
Mod. 98/40 Short Rifles, Cal. 8mm, V.G.-$34.95. German
Kar 98T{ Mauser Rifles. Cal. 8mm. V.G.-$49. 95. Argen-
tine Mod. 1891 :\:fauser Rifles. Cal. 7.65mm. Excel.-$19.95.
French Mod. 1886 Lebel Rifles, Cal. 8mm. Good-$15.95.
Czech Kar 98f( , Vinter Trigger Guard :Mauser Rifle. CuI.
Smm. V. G.-$26.95; Excel. - $31.95. Swiss Mod. 1911
Schmidt-Rubin Rifles. Cal. 1.5mm, V.G.-$14.95; Excel. -
$16.95. Peruvian Mod. 1909 (98) Mauser Rifles, Cal. 1.65.
Good- $24.95; V.G.-$29.95; Excel.-$34.95. German Gew
98 'VWI Mauser Rifles, Cal. 8mm, Fair-$24.95; Good
-$29.95. Dominican Republic Mod. 98 ) 'Iauser Long
Rifle. Cal. 7mm. Excel. - $59.95. Dominican Republic MOd.
98 Mauser Short Rifle. Cal. 7mm. Excel. - $64.95. Deal ers
I nquire. Send 25 for Retail List. AU prices FOB N.Y .
$1. 50 J)rel)ays any gun, $2.50 west of :M1ssissi pp1. 5-day
money back guar antee if returned prepaid in same con(U-
tion as shiooed. Globe Firearms. 30 Front St. , New York
4. N.Y.
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GUNS & AMMUNITION
WINCHESTERS, COLTS, LUGERS plus many others.
Send 10 for I8-page li st. Chet Fulmer, Rte. 3, DetrOit
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ATTEN'I'ION! M-l 30 Cal. Carbines Brand Newl New
:Manufacture complete and shipped postpai d-$14.50. Peru-
vian M35 30-06 cal. F.N. 'Mauser. like new-$49.50. Per-
sian M98 8mm Mauser Carbine. V.G. - $3S.50. Factory
New-$49.95. Order Now. Supply Limiled. Continental
Arms Ltd .. Box 72. Staten Island, N.Y. 10310.
NEW MATCH AUt RIFLES & Ammunition from
Europe; up to 750 fps. Tremendous accuracy. Walther.
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Catalog Free. Air Rifle Headquarters. 132 Market. Grants-
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U. S. 30-06 high number Spri ngfield rifles. Very Good-
$39.95. Excellent-$44.95. Perfect- $49. 50. U.S. 30-06 low
number Springfield rifles. Very good-$29.95. Excellent-
$34.95. U.S. 30-06 Enfield rifles. Very good-$29.95. Ex-
cellent-$34.50. U.S. M1 30 cal. carbines. Like new-
$69. 95. U.S. M1 30-06 Garand rlfies. Like new-$89.95.
British Mk. 3 303 rifles. Very good-$14.95. Like new-
$24.95. British Mk. 4303 rifles. Very good- $lS.95. British
l\Ik. 5 303 jungle carbi nes. Very good- $24.95. Spanish
Mod. 93 7mm )1auser carbines. Very good- $19.D5. Spanish
Mod. 1953 8mm Mauser rifles. Brand New-$34.95. Argen-
tine Mod. 91 7.65mm Mauser r ifles. Very good-$19.95.
Like New-$24.50. Peruvian Mod. 1909 7. 65mm }.fauser
rHies. Fair - $2'1.95. Good - $29.95. Excellent - $39.95.
lJoeruvian Mod. 1935 30-06 Mauser ritles. Very good-
$49.95. German 98 8mm Mauser rifles. Very good-
$29. 95. German :Mod. 1811/84 11mm Mauser rifles. Good-
$18. 95. Czech Mod. 98 8mm rifles. Perfect-$29.95.
nussian Mod. 91 7.62mm riOes. Good-$9.95. Very

7.62mm Tokare,' semi -automatic rifles. Good-$34.95. Very
good-$39.95. Excellent-$44.95. Italian :MOd. 91 6.5mm
l\fannlicher-Carcano rifles. Good-$9.95. Very good-$12.95.
Italian MOd. 1938 6.5mm & 7.35mm Mannlicher-Carcano
carbines. Very good-$14.95. French Mod. 1916 8mm Lebel
rIfles. Good-$9.95. Very good-$12. 95. ll'rench l\Iod. 1886
8mm Lebel rifles. Good- $l5.95. Swiss Mod. 1911 7.5mm
Schmidt-Rubi n rifles. Good-$13.95. Very good-$16.95.
HO-06. 303 British, 1mm Mauser. 7.65mm Mauser. 8mm
Mauser. 7.62mm Russian. 1.35mm Italian military ammu-
nition at $7.50 per 100 rds. Free gun li st. Dealers inquiries
invited. Freedland Arms Co . 34 Park ltew, New York
3S. N.Y.
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instructions $1.00. Maillrade. Capitola, Calif.
GUN AND Gun Parts illustrated catalog. Springfields.
l\-:I"ausers. Mortars. BaZOOkas. etc . . 50. Springfield Sporters.
Inc .. RDl. Penn Runn, Penna.
SURPLUS MILITARY CARBINES $17. 50. Pistols $12.50.
Rifles $10.00. Bargain Catalog 25. Armsco, Box 44-E1.
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H rAVY" .36 Cal. Revolvers Only $34.95. Copper Flasks
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CUSTO:\! 03-30/ 06 Springfield Rifl es-Engraving-Bro-
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SURPLUS RIFLES $3.50. PIstols $4. 00. Guns Below
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You Can Make An Accurate. Useable Sporter Out of Your
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SURPLUS RIFLES $3.50. Pistols $4.00. Guns you can
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$1.00. i\1ailtrade. 171-El. Capitola, Calif.
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PREPAID. 38 Special Western WC nickel cases, once
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YELLOvV 1964 of rifies, handguns.
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GUN EQUIPMENT
NEW 45-iO Cal. Springfield barrels with action. Model
1873. $25.00. 2 piece Sharps and Spencer Carbine srocks
$15.00 ea. U. S. Army. Cavalry helmets. 1880 style. $8.50.
Fine Franch saw LOath sword bayonets and scabbards.
$8.50 ea. POSlage Extra. ' V. Stokes Kirk, 3429 German-
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ADJUSTABLE TRIGGERS $3.50. Adjusts for sear depth
and trigger lhrow. Used by thousands. Can be installed in
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OVETt 50 ASSORTED SCHE\VS. pins. springs, et c. for
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CUSTOM STOCKING-fancy. select grades of wood. Spe-
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fancy checkering. Limited Gun Service. 163A Lincoln St .
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SPRINGFIELD, ENFIELD, )1AUSER. and Jap Owners.
eliminate trigger slack. I mproved trigger letoff I nstall a
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Hunter. 5070 Tahquamenon. Flushing. Michigan.
ALTEU. & JE\VEL bolts $8.50. Springfields, Enflelds al-
tered to 308 Norma Magnum $12.00; Enfields to 300 'Veath-
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NAZI ITEMS bought & sold, or ig. only, 1 piece or col-
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Company, 304 Almond. Amarillo, Texas.
GUNS AUGUST 1964
HOPPE'S GUN BLUE
for good gun care
Deep-penetrating Hoppe's Gun Blue
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finish without rubbing. Not a paint,
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for touch-up. 2-oz. bottle, $1.00,
includes steel wool, directions. At
better sporting goods dealers. If
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MEN- SHOP By Mail! 18 di sposable silicone-treateq car
polishing cloths, also good on guns, $1.00. Preclsion
Pedometer. scores to 100 miles. $7.79. Telephone shoulder
rest. $1.59. Bathtub safety rail, modern tubs only, $4.98.
Set of 6 safety plug locks to protect children. $2.00. Send
4 stamp for "mother and baby" gift catalog. Kaye Hall.
Franklinvi lle. N.Y.
TIME TRIED TECHNIQUE for self treatment of piles.
Folder in plai n envelope $1.00. Boyer, Box 892. Tupelo,
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GUNS AUGUST 1964
THE "P ARABELLUM"
AUTOMATIC PISTOL
(Deutsche WafJen und Munitions/abriken,
Distributed by Stoeger Arms Corp.,
South Hackensack, N.J. $1.00)
This little volume contains not only the
complete loading, stripping, and firing in-
structions for the Luger, but also offers some
interesting historical sidelights of the Luger
automatic in the United States and the deal-
ing of Stoeger's with the German concerns
who exported the Lugers to America. The
instructions are translated from the Gennan,
but are the same as those issued with the
original German non-military models. If you
are a Luger owner, collector, or just like to
learn something about this gun, then this
booklet should be in your library. -R.A.S.
HANDLOADER'S DIGEST, 2nd EDITION
Editor J ohn T. Amber
(Gun Digest Assoc., 4540 W est Madison,
Chicago, Ill., 1964. $2.95)
Vastly improved and much better organized
than the first edition, this 228 page volume
should be on or near your l oading bench at
all times. The articles, there are 25 of them,
are by the top authorities in the field, and
a great many new tables have been added for
your benefit. The equipment section is com-
pletely new and editor Amber rearranged
it to make it more useful and convenient. Get
your copy of the book soon, it promises to be
a sell-out in no time at all.-R.A.s.
HUNTING DUCKS AND GEESE
By Edward C. J anes
( The Stackpole Co., Harrisburg, Pa.,
1964. $5.95)
Edward C. J anes-better known as Ted
Janes of "Outdoor Life,"-has probahly for-
gotten more about duck and geese hunting
t han most of us can hope to learn in two
lifetimes. If you ever hope to hunt ducks and
geese, if you think you have all t he know.how
for this spor t, I'd suggest you get this book
and learn a few thi ngs- I know I have
learned quite a bit, and the only thing Ted
does not tell you is how to avoid bluebird
days. This is the best buy in duck hunting
books now on the market.- R.A.s.
REBELLIOUS RANGER
By W. J. Hughes
(University 0/ Oklahoma Press, Norman,
Okla., 1964. $5.95)
J ohn Salmon Ford came to Texas in 1863,
and began illustrious car eer which helped
shape the destiny of. that great -state. "Rip"
Ford, as he was known' in the dime novels,
remained a prominent figure in the political
and social structure of Texas until his death
in 1897.
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part of the historical writings
of the great Southwest.-J.R.
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IN PHOENIX KIDS LEARN TO SHOOT
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expl anation of the cour se that is to be taught.
Everyone, parents and students alike, are
addressed by an expert : on the basic rights
of every American to own, possess and bear
arms as provided for in our Bill of Rights;
the reasons for every American to know how
to handl e firearms; the nomenclature of fire-
arms, etc. The course is divided into 8 weeks,
with one night of instruction each week.
Students must first pass "paper work" and
"tests" on t he lect ures given preliminary to
actual range instruction. After they success-
fully pass these, they proceed to the firing
range, where they receive inst ruction in
shooting, and take field t rips, where advance
instruction in gun handling safety is given.
When the student has completed the course
and successfully passed all tests, he is
awarded a diploma.
The success of the program has been
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ATlAS ARMS, INC ... 63
BADGER SHOOTERS SUPPLy 36
BROWNING ARMS CO .. . 3
CONNECTICUT CARTRIDGE CORP . . 61
CHARLES DALy ; ....... 60
DISTRICT MERCHANDISE CO .. . ... 44
DIXIE GUN WORKS ....... . . .. . 38
NORM FlAYDERMAN ANTIQUE ARMS . . 56
GLOBAL IMPORT ............... . ... 65
GI L HEBARD GUNS . ... . ... . 58
HERTER' S, INC . . . . . . . 58
HUNTERS LODGE . . . .. . . 34, 35
HY-SCORE ARMS CORP .. .... . 36, 53
KLEIN'S SPORTING GOODS ..... .. . .... 11
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MUSEUM OF HISTORICAL ARMS .... . 60
NORMA-PRECi SiON ....... . . .. .. 52, 53
NUMRICH ARMS ............ 43, 50
OWLI E'S SHOOTER' S DISCOUNT. . . ........ . 55
POTOMAC ARMS .. ............. . ... ...... .. .. 61
PARKER DISTRIBUTORS . .... .... .. .. . .. 40
REMINGTON ARMS CO., INC . .. . . Cover 2
SAVAGE ARMS CORP ......... ... .. . . .. ....... 7
SERVICE ARMAMENT CORP .. . .. ...... . .. ... 4, 58
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HERTER' S, INC ........... . . 58
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DON HUME LEATHER GOODS . . 54
S. D. MYRES SADDLE CO .. . . 61
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REDFIELD GUN SIGHT CO .. 9
WEATHERBY, INC. .. . .... . . 12
W. R. WEAVER CO .. 47
STOCKS and GRIPS
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E. C. BISHOP & SONS, INC ... 63
BOB FRIHICH .................... 59
HERRETTS STOCKS . . .. ... .. .. . 44
FRANK MI TTERMEl ER .CO . :: .' 51
PETERSON GUN STOCKS 48
ROYAL ARMS, I NC . .. .. 44
SPORTS, INC 65
TRADEWINDS, INC . .44
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CUSTOM SHOOTER' S CENTER .. . . . . . ..... 53
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At dusk, in Tanganyika, professional hunter Ommanney takes lead on running eland with new Model 70-300 Winchester Magnum.
How Winchester's new "free--floating"
barrel was tested and proved on safari by
David Ommanney, our man in Africa.
We've always gone out of our way
to field-test and prove all new Win-
chester products. Last fall, we went
as far as Tanganyika.
Why? For two important reasons.
We wanted to prove the new "free-
floating" barrel on our Model 70's*
- by trying it out where game is
Notice how the fore end of the stock at
no point touches the barrel of this Model
70. No chance of uneven pressure on the
metal. Therefore, natural vibration of the
greater accuracy in shooting.
*Except on the 375 and 458.
plentiful and varied. And we wanted
David Ommanney's opinion.
benchrest shooting.
This Winchester "free-floating"
barrel is the first ever fitted to a pro-
duction rifle. We had lots of confi-
Few men know more about game
and guns than this famous profes-
sional hunter, who led
us on safari. Ifhe hadn't
approved this unusual
barrel, we'd probably
have scrapped it.
Ommanney, as we
expected, knew about
the theory behind the
"floating" barrel, and
was inclihesJ. to think it
a pretty good idea . . But,
up to now, he'd never
seen a "floating" barrel
except on very costly,
custom-made rifles, used
for International Free
Rifle Matches and
"Best Winchester I ever
owned ... and I practically
cut my teeth on them,;' says
Ommanney.New Winchester
Model 70-300, price $154.95.
dence in it, before we
took it on safari. Our
month in the bush with
it gave us all the proof
we needed.
Here's how our man
in Africa summed up:
"It warmed my heart to
watch the new Model
70's at work. The new
barrel rates A for accu-
racy. 'Float' it may-but
you can bet your life
the bullet doesn't.
"The way these new
Winchesters did their
stuff was smashing."
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