Questions :

1. How many TBF per Timeslot can be taken?

2. I'm having problems with EDGE on my network here, after several drive tests i
cant seem to be able to get MCS9...I keep getting MCS6 while doing a drive test
but when i check NPO counters i see traces of MCS9 usage.
Is there someway that ABIS or ATER could be limiting MCS9 usage?
I need help from the Pros in the house as i'm on contract here and remaining a few
weeks.
3. How to calculate PCU Load or predict the PCU will be overload??
4. I have Huawei system in my network so please suggest some parameters to
improve the DL EDGE throughput while in mobility/during Drive Test & also how
to reduce hard/soft blocking.
5. [Good question ] :For GPRS and EDGE, what is the minimum and maximum and
average ,download and upload throughput also (for phone as modem and for plug
and play modem).
6. When do you use ping for GPRS and EDGE problem complains and what is the
acceptable Percent Loss and Average Delay for this.
Dear All,
Kindly share your experienced knowledge and findings regarding TBF
Establishment success rate for Nokia.

Currently i am using the formula:
(Packet_Imm_Ass_Msgs) /
(Packet_Imm_Ass_Msgs + Packet_Imm_Ass_Rej_Msgs +Packet_Imm_Ass_NAC
K_Msgs)

but after reading the nokia documentation i think it should be:
(NBR OF UL/DL TBFs) / UL/DL TBF ESTABLISHMENT STARTED
7. How to calculate EDAP congestion in Huawei & how to remove the congestion?
8. Two questions regarding increase in PS traffic in 2G.

1) From 3G-2G lot of traffic is being pused and it resulted in degraded KPIs. I
need to know if we have just 2 FPDCH in one cell how many MS can be
accomodated. (considering all are 4 DL TS capable)

2)Our TBF limit UL & DL is 20, will it impact on higher TBF establishment
failures.
3) Can we limit number of MS or user per PDCH.
I.e. We have only one PDCH and then you mean 16 MS will be sharing it. Please
confirm.
9. Hi All,
I have Huawei Vendor ,I noticed that some BSCs the Max Download 16 Kbps ,
Many users complains about this problem
I have checked the radio parameters-->no problem ,no blocking, also there is no
blocking on idle time slots, also there is no blocking on Gb link; the problem in all
cells of two BSCs
what is the problem ?
9.1. How we can come out that this cell have low data throughput due no enough E1
inEricsson???




Responses :
1. It is different for uplink and downlink.
One timeslot(PDCH channel) can use for both uplink and downlink.
And you can set by parameter number of uplink tbf and downlink tbf for one
PDCH channel.(we say multiplex threshold)
For uplink from 1 to 7 (default is 7)
For downlink from 1 to 16 (default is 8)
(*) you should have at least 4 idle time
slot(Edap) on ABIS link.
If ABIS resource was not enough you can not download
with MCS9.
And you should be sure about your handset!!!

1: Improve C/I, reduce frequency interfere
2: Configure more idel time slots for BTS under enough resource, so as to get
higher coding.
3: Enough static PDCH channel
4: reasonable CRO and CRH, reduce cell reselect (on period of cell reselect,
TBF will broken, will land to new cell, will rebuild new TBF)
That's cell level parameter,
If your cell is congested you can decreased bandwidth(Increase number of
TBF on PDCH) upon, you have not congestion.
It's better that you change it step by step and see congestion.
for example if you have 5% congestion on downlink you can change
downlink value from 8 to 12.
your congestion absoloutly should decrease.
Ffter this change ,If congestion became 3% and you want to more
decrease (for example 1% congestion) you should change from 12 to 16.
(you should calculate it seprate for uplink and downlink)
Might in one site you have uplink congestion in the other downlink
congestion.
2. In order to get MCS9 you should have high C/I > 25 dB and so if you want to have
this in drive keep close to site around 20m you can get this
3. Every PCU or BSC(Embedded PCU) have some boards which process packet
services!
For Example in Huawei's BSC we have GDPUP board every GDPUP board can
handle 1024 PDCH which use MCS9 simultaneously.
one normal BSC(not big not small) Have 3 GDPUPs.
Every board have some DSPs (Processor)!!
you can monitor or get query from them to find they Overload or not
(For example DSP usage less than 70% is normal)
4. we have not exact parameter to increase throughput.
It is directly refer to the No. of idle timeslot and PDCH channel.
but we have one parameter for dynamic PDCH.
max ratio threshold for PDCH channel(%)
for DT see upper post from me and C/I and...
and about your another question
what do you mean from "hard/soft blocking"?
5. As we know througput is Kb/s.
And minimum can be 0.
in GPRS if every timeslot can handle maximum21 kb/s (with CS4)
if network assign 4 timeslo(Max) throughput for user is 84kb/s.
6. I did not your mean about: "When do you use ping for GPRS and EDGE
problem complains "
please more explain about question.
about last question.
ping delay 180 ms is good
yes the second one is tru and is for TBFSSR!
but the first one is part of PDCH channel assignment formula!
TBF establishment failure ratio, S12 (tbf_66)
Use:
This KPI calculates ratio of failed UL and DL TBFs due to no response
from MS to all TBFs (UL and DL).
Formula (NetAct names):
sum
(DL_TBF_Establishment_Failed + DL_EGPRS_TBF_REL_DUE_NO_RESP)
+ sum
(UL_TBF_Establishment_Failed + UL_EGPRS_TBF_REL_DUE_NO_RESP)
100 * -----------------------------------------------------------
sum (Nbr_Of_DL_TBF + Nbr_Of_UL_TBF)
Unit: %
TBF Establishment SSR = 100 - TBF establishment failure ratio
7. For channel congestion:
([A9003:Number of Failed Uplink GPRS TBF Establishments due to No
Channel]+[A9203:Number of Failed Uplink EGPRS TBF Establishments due
to No Channel])/([A9001:Number of Uplink GPRSTBF Establishment
Attempts]+[A9201:Number of Uplink EGPRS TBF Establishment
Attempts])*{100}.In Huawei you should :
Application success rate in ABIS.
you should add more Idle Time slot for site
8. 1)Per PDCH maximum 7 MS for uplink and 16 MS for dl
2)No, just your throughput will be decrease.
3) U can limit with parameter sepratly for ul and dl.
yes even if you have one PDCH 16 MS can share that for DL session.


9. It should be one limitation from core,IPBB, ISP or Gi link.
Some times which our ISP limited internet as a security issue we had this
problem.
One time Gi links dropped same issue.
One time IPBB links caused this issue.
9.1. You can add another E1 or active Abis optimization feature (It needs
hardware board)






What is EDAP Congestion? How to remove it?
When the Abis interface uses the TDM connection
mode, if the PDCH coding scheme is adjusted, the idle
Abis timeslot application or release may be initiated to
support the adjustment of the PDCH coding scheme.
Each time the PDCH requests an Abis timeslot for the
adjustment of the PDCH coding scheme, the counter
is incremented by one.

* Maximum no of Idle TS we can use based on no. of
TRXs is as below
TRX=8 >> Max Idle TS=40
TRX=9 >> Max Idle TS=32
TRX=10 >> Max Idle TS=24
TRX=7 >> Max Idle TS=48

Checks for Removal of Abis Congestion:-



1. Find out the sectors with EDAP Failure
(Unsuccessful Application Attempts of Abis Timeslot
Because of no Idle TS/ Application Attempts of Abis
TS) greater than 30% and Application Attempts of
Abis TS is above 100 (sites coming in Five continue
Working Days).
2. Check for IDLE TS configuration. Add maximum
IDLE TS in existing E1.
3. Mapping must be proper of idle TS.
4. Check Data download (MB) of a site before adding
second E1, Download of DATA BBH should be greater
than 100Mb.
5. Additional E1 to be added.

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