Professor : You are a Christian, arent you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?
Student : Yes.
Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. M
ost of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didnt. How is this GO
D good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent.)
Professor: You cant answer, can you ? Lets start again, young fella. Is GOD good?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Is satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor: Where does satan come from ?
Student : From GOD
Professor: Thats right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Evil is everywhere, isnt it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor: So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer.)
Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible t
hings exist in the world, dont they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, who created them ?
(Student had no answer.)
Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the wo
rld around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have yo
u ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. Im afraid I havent.
Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science say
s your GOD doesnt exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Professor: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Professor: Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isnt.
(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat,
white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we dont have anything called cold. We c
an hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we cant go any further after
that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the
absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposi
te of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Professor: Yes. What is night if there isnt darkness?
Student : Youre wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can h
ave low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no li
ght constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isnt it? In reality, da
rkness isnt. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldnt you
?
Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is lif
e and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept
of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science cant even exp
lain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less
fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ign
orant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professo
r, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of cou
rse, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argum
ent was going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and ca
nnot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching
your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class was in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professors brain?
(The class broke out into laughter. )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professors brain, felt it,
touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the establ
ished Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you h
ave no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures
, sir?
(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable
.)
Professor: I guess youll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is
all that keeps things alive and moving.
P.S.
I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, youll probably want your
friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, wont you?
Forward this to increase their knowledge or FAITH.
By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.
hello.. how old r u?
hello
No. Who is an atheist in ur opinion?
one who believes that universe came into existance magically and automatically
Ok. And now my question...how old r u?
why r u interested in my age?
Y r u interested in my beliefs?
wht does it matter to u?
What is there to hide?
hmmn
i am 25 nearly 26
Ok. Good. Ur definition of atheist is not right...look for a better definition.
so u give me the better difinition
Google it.
why r u so puzzled
why dont u give it to me
Puzzled?
Google it.
2 days back i asked few questions to athiests and they just ran away
no one answered
the post is still there on wall paper
u can answer
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? ?? ???? ??? ??...
U think atheists are ur enemies....? U should know your enemies well. Get a prop
er definition of who ur enemy is....where ia the puzzle?
bhai is ka jawab de do bas
tumara level samajh mein aa jayega
gone?
Mera level smjhne ka buht shauq hy aapko.
theek hai nahi samjhenge
ap jawab de dijiye......bas
Atheist ki proper definition btado...buht jaldi me ho...
jaane do yaar
tum hi bataa do
I believe u r younger than 25.
i think u r assessing from the the pic at my dp
thats 6 yrs old pic
I am assessing from the way u talk.....
Or write.
its good
ok it was nice talking to u
Wat is good? R u younger than 25?
why r u deviating the topic
and getting personal
Define atheist. A proper definition. And tell me ur true age...
this should be defined by an athiest
Wat is the topic? Itis; who is an atheist.
Google it.
then who r u ?a theist?
There r other categories in the world....its not mandatory to be one of the two.
....u are too young brother.
ok u can go
tc
no answers
and just jokes
Be happy. Stay happy in ur ignorance.....ur choice.
athiests are the most ignorant guys
coz they cant even answer the most fundamental questions
And u dont know whois an atheist....
one who does not believe in a creator
of the universe
thats the main attribute
Ok better. Still one thing missing.....one who doesnt believe in a personal God.
i think.......personal is not the proper translation of the urdu word zaat
i never use the word ALLAH ki shaqsiyat
i use the the word ALLAH ki zaat
Wat is the proper word for zaat then?
there is no word in english
Urdu me he likh do.
zaat
Yeh ro arabi hy.
haan to arabic word urdu mein aa gaya hai
arabic to arabic sahi
if u mean personal as a human person even i deny such psudo GOD
U deny a personal God..U r an atheist....
haha......
good joke
i dont beleive in a materialistic person
even matter contained personal GOD
but if u convert the word personal to zaat then i believe in personal GOD
Actually u believe in a personal God, u believe ur god listens to ur prayers, se
es u, monitors u, observes ur deeds. He is a personal god.
good
So i know better about what u believe in...
ALLAH is one and only
Ok.
he begets not ,nor he is begotton
ALLAH is absolute and eternal
and there is nothing like ALLAH
this is 4 line definiton of ALLAH
for me
If Allah can BE without being born, or created......wat prevents u in believing
that the universe could BE without being born or created?
because universe itself is without intelellect and sense
Allah as u define, is much powerful and mighty, and bettercthan the universe....
..u easily believe, that such a powerful thing could exist without any creator..
....but u have problems with accepting that a much inferior universe cant be wit
hout a creator...
thats why i asked is the above post
read it once again
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????? ????? ?? ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ??????? ?? ??? ?? ????? ????????????????? ????
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? ?? ???? ??? ??...
Yeh post buht he ahmaqana hy , believe me....is post ko banany wala khasa jahil
admi hy....mujhe nai pata k kisne likhi hy yeh....
maine post banaai hai
aur is ko har athiest se poocha hai
Chand mushkil alfaz ko jor kr yeh smjha hy k khuda ko sabit krlega.....
agar khuda par beleive na karna jahaalat hai aur phir us par beleive na karna us
se badi jahaalat hai........sirf ek eternity ke question se pareshan ho kar gen
erally athiest khuda ko nahi maante.......laikin naa maan kar aur 100 sawaal unk
e saamne aa jayega.....jiska waise bhi koi jawab nahi
Khala ki gameshgi manay aur kahay , k han khala se he sb kuch bana hy.......tmha
ra khuda ghaur madi hy, usne madi kainaat kaisy banali?
kyunki wo khud universe ke laws banaane wale hai......aur universe bhi
ye simple si baat samajhne ki thi
Jaisy ghair madi khuda ne madi kainat banayi, waisy ghair madi khala ne mafa ban
a lia......
Mada.
aisa nahi hai
Gir gayi na dharam se apki boodi imarat neeche?
haha
bhai space mein shaoor nahi hai
na matter mein shaoor hai
Mene apko pehle nadeehat ki thi , k mutalia wasee karo....aur mushkil alfaz k pe
echy chupna chor do....
haha
again self contradicting
Khokhli hnsi....
sirf speculation hai.....space mein intellect hai?
ya matter min intellect hai?
space ne matter ko banaya ya enrgy ko?
Brain matter hy?
ya energy ne matter ko banaya?
Isi me intellect hota hy.
that means universe ke har atom mein intellect hai?
even in stones?
rivers
and sands and stars?
ya phir ek central intellectual system hai universe mein?
That means? How does it mean?.......insan matter hy, khana khata hy.....dies it
mean k pathar bhi khana khata hy?
ap ye kahiye ki space mein intellect hai?
Bcoz pathar matter hy.......kuch aql ko hath maro....
central intellect hai?
ya
divisional intellect hai?
kis ne matter banaya?
central ne ya divisional ne?
Ab me yeh q kahoo? Aik jagha pr tmhara har jana kafi nai hy?.......
theek hai bhai jaao
rehne do
tum bhi automatically hi duniya mein aaye ho
type bhi automatically kar raho ho
Naraz q hotay ho?
automatically ke word se bura laga?
bhai phir khud hi socho
Mujhe kia bura lgna hy?
Naraz ap ho rahy ho....
ki universe ke laws automatically aa gaye??ya eternal matter mein pehle se the?
Tmhara khuda arguments se sabit nai hoskta....
Mujhe is bat ka pata hy...
aur ye laws aj change kyun nahi ho sakte??
Tmhe nai pata....tm koshish krte ho, kamiab nai hotay, phir naraz hojatay ho....
.
tumhare mein intelelct hai.....tum khud ko matter kehte ho ......phir tum khud a
pne intellect se apne andar ke universal laws of matter ko change kyun nahi kar
dete?
why cant u change?
jaane do yaar
i wont say further
take care
ALLAHAFIZ
Dykh lo...!
WHT?
Look brother....u are a believer......the basis of ur belief is not in reason. I
f u try to prove ur belief with reason, u wont succeed.
bhai athiests ke reasons bhi dekh chuka hoon
and i am not intrested in preaching u
U believe first, and reason later.
Wat will u preach when u are urself shaky...
main tumko islam qubool karne ka nahi keh raha hoon.......ye pehle clear kar lo
Acha clear krlia....
tum logo ki poori reasoning chance ke falsafay par hai
chance ,automatic
ye 2 word par poora athiesm hai
Tmhari bhi hy......hm universe ko chance smjhte hyn....tum khuda ko chance smjht
e ho.......
not at all
hum khuda ko eternal samajhte hain
wo hamesha se hai aur hamesha rahega
Hm kehty hyn universe khud se bn gia.....tm kehtw ho khuda khud ae bn gia.
khuda banaa nahi hamesha se hai
aur us ne universal laws aur universe banaai hai
aur life wale organisms bhi
Usko kisi ne q nai banaya phir?
matter mein ability nahi hai ki wo khud ko organise kar sake
Woh hmesha se q hy?
GOD by definition is uncreated
u r saying who created the uncreated
U made that definition.
apne bhi to maanaa hai ki matter eternal hai
even u made that definiton
that matter without intellect is uncreated
and automatically
a central or divisional intellect i dont knw existed eternally
Ur logic is like......i dont believe that the wheel was created itself.....but i
believe that the whole bus was automqtically created.
haha whole of your typing is getting automatic
your brain is not at all thinking
just automatically u r typing
under chemical compulsion
wht a beleif that matter without intellect created an intellect
Brain , the matter created intellect. No?
If a being like Allah was eternal....anything can b eternal...
not at all
and we dont find different laws
eternity if only for ALLAH
laws are universal
and same throughout the universe
Such a mighty creator was there, didnt need any creator.......anything can be be
lieved to exist without a creator....anything. U name it.
and matter is submissive to those laws
i said GOD by definition is uncreated
so u r saying who created the uncreated?
anything that is created is not GOD
Who made that definition?
Ppl like u.....how convenient.
go beleive that u r doing everything under chemical compulsion
u automatically came under this world
and automatically typing
And u argue that evrything needs a creator.....wat does it mean then..?
Like ur god who became automatically....
haha
again self contradictory
Thats wat u are...
my arguments is everything is created by a creator except the uncreated
and u say matter is eternal and without intellect
and created everything
That is wat self contradiction is....at its peak.
matter without intellect created an intellect
wow
even u r a matter
why dont u make your own chemical law and change that law
within your ambit
A play of words........its sad that belief finds no home here except in play of
difficult words....
u r a matter with intellect
jaane do bhai
ALLAHAFIZ
signing off
Ok. Bye..
why r u sad....order your inner chemicals to.change your chemicals to happiness
Like u are suggesting drugs for me? Y wud i b sad? u could defend ur belief.....
u should b sad....
But i dont suggest u drugs..
no i was not saying about drugs
u peopls consider everything as a chemical process
then i am saying
whtever inner chemicals u hv
order them to give u happiness always
as u r a matter with intellect
if matter without intellect can create an intellect
Like u are....brain with intellect.
then matter with intellect cant do this small stuff
Or do u deny to possess any ibtellect?
Brain is matter with intellect.
so u beleive that even stones are with intellect?as u claimed that matter withou
t intellect in universe created the intellect
wht i belive is that entire universe is created by ALLAH the absolute and eterna
l
even stars
universal laws
and galaxy
and living organisms
U have asked the same question again.....scroll up and see that u have been answ
ered already.
whts the answer?
that matter automatically existed
and automatically implements the universal laws
and automaticall created intellect in itslef
and automatically reduced to some energy without having intellect
U are spamming now....angry that u couldnt defend ur belief...
its u who has to defend its beleif as science itself has rejected the eternity o
f matter
or u beleive that science said that matter is eternal
and universe is constant not expanding?
Brrain is matter...it has intellect. ..how does it mean that every matter should
have intellect? By wat logic?....... The body is matter, it consumes food....st
ones consume food? They r matter too.....
U r totally illogical like ur beliefs.
when eternal matters intelelct ordered itself to expand till eternity
thats wht i am asking why every matter is not with intelelct?
as u argued that matter at the start of universe had an intellect
then i said
it was central or divisional
Where did i say mqtter at the start had intellect?....plese show some honesty...
...u dobt respect even ur religion that preaches honesty and truth so much....lo
ok at its folliwers....no truth, no honesty..
so u disagree that matter didnt had intelelct at first
but later on automatically intellect came in it?
central intellect of universal matter?right??
or divisional?
wht happend?
I know and i agree this. U believe in a God without reason.....then try to prove
it with reason.....y do u do it?
itne reasons kaafi nahi hain
jo athiesm mein non sense hai usko reject karne ke liye
this universe
is so harmonised
Apkaylie to koi reason he nai chhye bhai.....
and so submissive to the laws of ALLAH
cant u see this
agar matter khud ko organise kar sakta aur law implement kar sakta
to har insaan apne andar ke laws ko change nahi kar sakta tha??
i knw
religion aur GOD ke naam par exploitaton bahot hua hai
aur ye main reason hai aadmi ke athiest banne ka
U need to study more...i could say this again..
bhai apke study
aur apke answers dekh chuke
athiesm ke non sense bhi dekh chuke
ab kehta hoon
for 2 years i was an athiest
Muslman sbse bari wajh hynn......bari bari batayn krte hyn. Phir jhoot boltay hy
n..dhoka dyte hyn...
Thata how ppl thibk...wats the fun of believing when the believers r like this..
....
studied
bhai duniya ke har group mein black sheeps hain
Yes like nietszche wrote tge critique...
i studies majority of the philosophies and all the religions
And much more philosophy...
that was my mistake
i agree to it
jaldi se type karne mein mistake ho gayee
ab to samjho
i will tell u
i was an athiest
i studies majority of philosophies and religion and ideologies
studied
and u r not the first athiest with whom i have discussed
Ok.
uptil now 14 athiests left athiesm........
when they talked to me personally
not on chating
But i m the first who defeated u..
Aha....! 14
thats perception
u have not answered a single question of mine
richard dawkins bhi yahi karta
they get personal or emotional
Its all abt perception as kant says.
Ur questions were abswered....wat u do is , u generate new questions.....
but perception should be based on proper guidance
thats wht every athiest do
Ok.....
they try to implement physical realities to metephysical realities
rene descarte ne khud isko reject kiya tha
Where do u do this atheist conversion programme?
kya us ne ye nahi kaha tha ki u cannnot prove metaphysical realities thorugh phy
sical and vice versa
Descarte ne kisko reject kia tha.....? Bhai koi bongi na marna plz....
aisa koi special programme main conduct nahi karta
ok leave it
i am not here to convert u
I can see that.....
tum sochte raho ki matter mein universal intellect kab aaya
kyun aaya
kaise aya
aur kab khatm hoga
phir universal laws matter ne kyun accept kiye
apni autonomy kyun khatm kar di
etc etc
ya phir ye bhi soch sakte ho ki matter ka kitna part energy mein convert hua aur
universal intellect ka divison dono mein kaise hua
Hmm.....buh aala soch hy...
aur tum apni death bed par zaroor in ke jawab paa loge
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insaan ko is universe mein zyada autonomy nahi hai
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sochte raho
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Tum yeh socho. K intellect hy kia bala? Time kia hy, space kia hy......yar sochn
ay ka standard to zara ooncha karo..
Mgr tmne kia sochna? Tmne hr mushkil cheez khuda k khatay me dal k chill marna h
y...
laikin har ek ko death face karni ha
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agar matter ne khud ko hi design kar liya to insaan ke andar apni poori history
ko save kyun nahi kiya??poori universe ki hostory mein agar matter hi use hua ha
i to insaan wo history ko revive karle
khud ke andar jhaank kar
kyunki wo bhi usi matter ka ek part hai
matter ne khud se dushmani kyun ki??
aur apne ek part ko doubts mein daal diya......aur wo part hai human being
Magr dykho....such bolna chahye. Honest rehna chahye. Jhoot nai bolna chahye....
tmhara mazhb yeh bhi to sikhata hy...
bhai tum mazhab ki baat kyun kar rahe ho
Ho skta hy k us se pehle paa loo.
agar mazhab ek jhoot hai to uska reference de kar mujhe kisi kaam par kyun aamaa
da kar rahe ho?
Ho skta hy k tb bhi na paaon.
ho sakta hai
laikin maine bahot logo ko dekha hai jo maut ke waqt athiesm chor dete hain
us waqt unko samajh mein aata hai ki wo kitne majboor hain
yaar tum khud ye baat maante ho ki tumne khud ko create nahi kiya hai
phir tum aj se hazaar saal pehle kyun paida nahi hue?
ya kisi baadshah ke ghar mein kyun paida nahi hue?
Mgr mujhe yeh pata hy, k me sochta bhi hoon aur jo mujse bat krta hy, usko bhi s
ochne ki rah pr dal deta hu......mujhe pata hy k mujhe jawab pura nai mila.....m
agr jo log jawab mulne ka dawa krte hyn, wo kahanian sunatay hyn bus.....jawab u
nke pas bhi nai hy.....farq yeh hy, k woh apnay ap ko dhokay me rkhtay hyn......
jhooti ummeedayn lagaty hyn.
main kahaani sunaai hai?
maine
jis matter ne ye universe ko organise karke create kiya.......as u beleive in it
..........usi matter ne tumko guide kyun nahi kiya??apne ek part ko doubts mein
kyun daal diya??
Tmhara mzhb bhi sochne, fikr krnay ki hosla afzai krta hy.......mgr iske mannay
waly fikr k baray dushman hyn.....
jab ki wahi matter hai jis ne life ki har zaroorat ko poora kiya hai...as u bele
ive
Yeh paradox bhi hy........quran pehli shart yeh lagata hy k ghaib pr eeman laaog
ay to yeh kitab hidayat dygi.....phir kehta hy k socho bhi, ghaur bhi karo....
phir us ne tumse guidance kyun cheen li
Hjo ghaur karega, woh ghaib pr yaqeen q karega?
bhai.......yahi to point hai
baghair dekhe imaan laana hai..........baghair samjhe nahi.......warna dekh kar
to jaanwar bhi aaane wali vehical ke saamne se hat jata hai
tumne 2no ko ek samjh liya
kya athiest ne baghair dekhe evolution ko nahi maante??
Yeh kutab hy shak k bghair....hidayat hy muttaqeen kaylie....aur pehli sifat mut
taqeen ki? .....yominoona bilghaib.....phir yuqeemoonas salat. Phir bilakhirati
yuqinoon.....
haan bhai....ghaib par imaan laana padega..........laikin samajh kar.......
because there are many things which are called as transcendental and metaphysica
l
they r beyond our senses
Phir sawal pr sawal......afala yubsiroon? Dykhte nai? .....sochte nai? .....Alla
h mian jb ghaib pr eeman ke aye, phir sochna kaisa, or kahan ka....?
haha
v will discuss islam afterwards
pehle ye to clear ho jaye ki ap kaun hain
athiest ya kuch aur
and depending upon your position v will disucss
??