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Value Strategies

for
Conservative Investors
Canadian MoneySaver Conference
October 2003

Norm Rothery, PhD


www.stingyinvestor.com

Overview
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Before investing
Why invest in stocks?
Controllable factors
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Fees, taxes, and trading
Indexing: the default choice
Select index funds and ETFs
Markets from a value perspective
Value Strategies
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Graham: Investing with a margin of safety
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Dreman: Relative ratios
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Dividends
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Buffett
Some problems
Further reading

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Before Investing
Be debt free
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No Credit Card Balances


No Loans
No Mortgages

Have a rainy weather fund


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Stash 3-6 months of income in short term notes


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High interest bank accounts
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ING Direct
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American Express
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Short-term GICs
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Frugal short-term income funds

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Save for large ticket items


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Homes
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Cars
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Tuition
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Medical

Insurance
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Make sure that you are fully covered

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Why invest in stocks?


U.S. Annual Returns adjusted for inflation and taxes
Period

Stocks

Bonds

T-Bills

Gold

5.9%

2.3%

2.1%

0.06%

1802-1870

7.0%

4.8%

5.1%

0.18%

1871-1925

6.6%

3.2%

2.7%

-0.82%

1926-1996

4.2%

-0.71%

-1.1%

0.63%

1802-1996

Source: David Dreman

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Controllable Factors: Fees

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Controllable Factors: Taxes and Trading


Investment compounded for 20 years with a 27% tax on gains
Annual Return
Before Tax

Annual
Turnover

Value of $1M
after 20 yrs

Annual Return
After Tax

15%

0%

16,366,500

15.0%

15%

3%

14,780,800

14.4%

15%

10%

12,386,300

13.4%

15%

30%

9,694,000

12.0%

15%

80%

8,136,600

11.1%

15%

100%

7,990,800

11.0%

Source: www.tweedy.com

Group

Annual Turnover

Single Men

85%

Married Men

75%

Married Women

53%

Single Women

51%

Phone Trading

~70%

Online Trading

~90%
Source: John Nofsinger

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Indexing: The default choice


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Simply buy a basket of stocks that mimics an index.


Potential Advantages
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low cost
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broad diversification
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tax efficiency through low turnover

Source: A Random Walk Down Wall Street

Potential Disadvantages
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selecting a good index
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high-fee index funds & ETFs
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limited diversification from specialty indices
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valuation

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Select Index Funds & ETFs


Canadian Index Funds & ETFs
iUnits S&P/TSX 60 (T:XIU)
iUnits S&P/TSX Composite (T:TTF)
TD Canadian Index eFund
iUnits 5Yr Government Bond (T:XGV)
iUnits 10Yr Government Bond (T:XGX)
TD Government Bond Index eFund

MER
0.17
0.25
0.31
0.25
0.25
0.48

U.S. Equity Index Funds & ETFs


VIPERs Total Stock Market (U:VTI)
S&P 500 (U:SPY)
S&P 500 (T:XSP)
TD U.S. Index eFund
TD U.S. RSP Index eFund

MER
0.15
0.11
0.30
0.33
0.48

U.S. Specialty ETFs


DJIA (U:DIA)
S&P 500 Growth (U:IVW)
S&P 500 Value (U:IVE)
NASDAQ 100 (U:QQQ)
VIPERs Extended Market (U:VXF)
iShares Russell 1000 (U:IWB)
iShares Russell 2000 (U:IWM)

MER
0.17
0.18
0.18
0.20
0.20
0.15
0.20

International Equity Index Funds & ETFs


MSCI EAFE (T:XIN)
MSCI EAFE (U:EFA)
TD International Index eFund
TD International RSP Index eFund
iShares S&P/TOPIX 150 (U:ITF)
iShares S&P Europe 350 (U:IEV)
iShares Emerging Markets (U:EEM)

MER
0.35
0.35
0.48
0.48
0.50
0.60
0.75

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Valuation

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Valuation

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Select Value Strategies


Benjamin Graham: The Father of Value Investing
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Margin of Safety
Assets on the cheap
Stable growth
Low debt with a high earnings yield.

David Dreman: Relative Ratios


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Price-to-Earnings
Price-to-Book
Price-to-Cash Flow
High Dividend Yield

Dividend Yield
Warren Buffett
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Strong Companies
Concentration
Margin of Safety
Qualitative

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Benjamin Graham Margin of Safety


There are instances where a common stock may be
considered sound because it enjoys a margin of safety as
large as that of a good bond. This will occur, for example,
when a company has outstanding only common stock that
under depression conditions is selling for less than the
amount of bonds that could safely be issued against its
property and earning power. That was the position of a
host of strongly financed industrial companies at the low
price levels of 1932-33. In such instances the investor can
obtain the margin of safety associated with a bond, plus all
the chances of larger income and principal appreciation
inherent in a common stock
-The Intelligent Investor (4th ed) pg 278
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Price much less than Working Capital


Strong balance sheet
Profits and expected profits

Problems
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Scarcity of such stocks


Hidden liabilities
Poor outlook

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Benjamin Graham Defensive Investors


Guidelines for Defensive Investors
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Price-to-Earnings Ratio less than 15


Price-to-Book Ratio less than 1.5
Book Value over 0
Current Ratio over 2
Earnings growth of 33% over 10 years
Uninterrupted dividends over 20 years
Some earnings in each of the past 10 years
Annual revenue of more than $100 Million (1950)
The Intelligent Investor 4th Ed, pgs 184-185

My Approximation
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Price-to-Earnings Ratio less than 15


Price-to-Book Ratio less than 1.5
Book Value per share more than 0.01
Current Ratio more than 2
Annual EPS Growth (5 Yr Avg) > 2.9186%.
5 Year Dividend Growth more than 0%
5 Year P/E Low more than 0.01
1 Year Revenue more than $400 Million
- See November 2003 Canadian MoneySaver

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Benjamin Graham Defensive Investors


Performance of previous Graham Picks (October 3 2003)
Stock

Initial Price
Current Price
2000 Graham Stocks (12/12/2000)
AAR Corp (AIR)
$11.94
$9.70
Haverty Furniture (HVT)
$10.06
$20.76
La-z-boy (LZB)
$15.88
$23.20
Rollins Truck (RLC)
Bought in 2001
Reliance Steel (RS)
$25.13
$23.00
Tredegar Corp (TG)
$15.56
$15.70
Thor Industries (THO)
$19.69
$60.70
Wabash National (WNC)
$7.81
$16.75
Watsco (WSO)
$11.35
$19.65
Average Gain
S&P500 (SPY)
2001 Graham Stocks (10/29/2001)
Centex (CTX)
$39.45
$83.71
Domtar (DTC)
$8.19
$11.38
Haverty Furniture (HVT)
$12.80
$20.76
M.D.C. Holdings (MDC)
$27.35
$59.11
Pulte Homes (PHM)
$33.83
$71.42
Average Gain
S&P500 (SPY)
2002 Graham Stocks (10/27/2002)
Centex (CTX)
$43.38
$83.71
Pulte Homes (PHM)
$46.17
$71.42
D.R. Horton (DHI)
$20.16
$36.12
Woodward Governor Company
$36.62
$45.97
(WGOV)
M.D.C. Holdings (MDC)
$37.91
$59.11
Standard Pacific (SPF)
$25.10
$40.39
Seaboard (SEB)
$207.00
$229.50
Universal Forest Products (UFPI)
$18.34
$26.93
Haverty Furniture (HVT)
$11.75
$20.76
Watsco, Inc. (WSO)
$14.25
$19.65
Average Gain
S&P500 (SPY)
Source: quote.yahoo.com, *Adjusted for splits
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Gain
-15.8%
112.4%
52.7%
82.0%
-5.9%
3.5%
*517.7%
116.1%
102.6%
107.3%
-22.2%
112.8%
43.0%
65.3%
*164.1%
111.8%
99.4%
-1.4%
93.3%
55.0%
80.4%
28.1%
*72.5%
62.2%
12.3%
47.3%
78.7%
38.7%
56.8%
16.3%

This Year: Pulte Homes (PHM) & Ameron Int (AMN)


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Benjamin Graham Earnings Yield


Average annual % gain or loss from 1937 - 1969
Period

10 lowest
P/Es

10 highest
P/Es

30 DJIA
Stocks

1937-42

-2.2%

-10.0%

-6.3%

1943-47

17.3%

8.3%

14.9%

1948-52

16.4%

4.6%

9.9%

1953-57

20.9%

10.0%

13.7%

1958-62

10.2%

-3.3%

3.6%

1963-69

8.0%

4.6%

4.0%

Average

11.8%

2.4%

4.6%
Source: Benjamin Graham

A low price-to-earnings approach also worked from 1970-1997


Quintile

low
1

Return

19.0%

17.4%

14.6%

high
5

market

13.1%

12.3%

15.3%

Source: David Dreman

Grahams Earnings Yield Approach


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From 1926-1976 yielded 2 times the returns of the DJIA
The Rediscovered Benjamin Graham, pg 259

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David Dreman: Ratio Analysis


Price-to-Earnings from 1970-1997
Quintile

low
1

Return

19.0%

17.4%

14.6%

high
5

market

13.1%

12.3%

15.3%

market

Price-to-Cash Flow from 1970-1997


Quintile

low
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high
5

Return

18.0%

16.6%

15.8%

13.7%

11.2%

15.1%

market

Price-to-Book from 1970-1997


Quintile

low
1

high
5

Return

18.8%

16.3%

14.6%

13.7%

12.0%

15.1%

market
14.9%

Dividend Yield from 1970-1997


Quintile

high
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low
5

Return

16.1%

17.5%

15.1%

13.8%

12.2%

Source: Contrarian Investment Strategies: The Next Generation

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David Dreman: Industry Ratio Analysis


Industry-Relative Price-to-Earnings from 1970-1997
Quintile

low
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Return

17.7%

16.7%

16.1%

high
5

market

13.7%

12.2%

15.3%

Industry-Relative Dividend Yield from 1970-1997


Quintile

high
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Return

17.0%

16.0%

14.9%

low
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market

14.1%

12.7%

14.9%

No need to rush
P/E buy-and-hold annual returns (1970-1996)
Quintile

2 Years

3 Years

5 Years

8 Years

1 (low)

18.7%

18.1%

18.7%

18.4%

16.9%

16.5%

17.1%

17.5%

15.3%

15.2%

15.5%

16.2%

13.5%

13.7%

14.4%

15.3%

5 (high)

11.9%

11.3%

11.8%

12.8%

Market

15.3%

15.0%

15.6%

16.2%

Source: Contrarian Investment Strategies: The Next Generation

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Dividend Based Approaches


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High Dividend Yield

Dividend Yield from 1970-1997


Quintile

high
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Return

16.1%

17.5%

15.1%

low
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market

13.8%

12.2%

14.9%

Source: David Dreman

[Attend David Stanleys Presentation for more info]

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Relative Dividend Yield


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Little debt

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Distressed Dividends

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Warren Buffett
We believe that our formula the purchase at sensible prices of
businesses that have good underlying economics and are run by
honest and able people is certain to produce reasonable
success.
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An investor should act as though he had a lifetime decision card
with just twenty punches on it. With every investment decision his
card is punched, and he has one fewer available for the rest of his
life.
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There is simply no precision to the process - and if you think so,
you are kidding yourself. There should be such a margin of safety
that you dont need to carry it out to three decimal places.
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The qualitative is harder to teach and understand, so why not just
focus on the quantitative? ... It makes more sense to buy a
wonderful business at a fair price.
< Difficult to emulate

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Potential problems with value investing


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Value stocks can be psychologically unappealing


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Hard to boast about your newest picks
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Unlikely to hear good things in the news
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People may criticise your ugly ducklings
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Holding for long periods is seen as slothful

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Taxes may be higher


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Higher turnover
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High dividend payments may not be as tax
efficient as capital gains.

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Commissions may be higher


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spreads and buying large positions may
impact the market.

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Value is often seen as an unrealized risk factor

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Cheap stocks can get cheaper before recovering

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Cheap stocks can just get cheaper

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Cheap stocks can get cheaper

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While value stocks may outperform the market,


they may lose ground in a meltdown

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The markets are still very expensive on a


historical basis and remain dangerous

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Value Strategies for Conservative Investors

Norman Rothery

Value Oriented Books


Security Analysis
The Intelligent Investor
The Rediscovered Benjamin Graham
Value Investing Made Easy
Contrarian Investment Strategies
What Works on Wall Street
Relative Dividend Yield
Beating the Dow
Buffett: The Making of an American...
Value Investing

by Graham & Dodd


by Benjamin Graham
by Janet Lowe
by Janet Lowe
by David Dreman
by James P. OShaugnessy
by Anthony Spare
by OHiggins & Downes
by Roger Lowenstein
by Martin Whitman

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