Beruflich Dokumente
Kultur Dokumente
for
Conservative Investors
Canadian MoneySaver Conference
October 2003
Overview
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Before investing
Why invest in stocks?
Controllable factors
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Fees, taxes, and trading
Indexing: the default choice
Select index funds and ETFs
Markets from a value perspective
Value Strategies
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Graham: Investing with a margin of safety
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Dreman: Relative ratios
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Dividends
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Buffett
Some problems
Further reading
Before Investing
Be debt free
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Insurance
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Stocks
Bonds
T-Bills
Gold
5.9%
2.3%
2.1%
0.06%
1802-1870
7.0%
4.8%
5.1%
0.18%
1871-1925
6.6%
3.2%
2.7%
-0.82%
1926-1996
4.2%
-0.71%
-1.1%
0.63%
1802-1996
Annual
Turnover
Value of $1M
after 20 yrs
Annual Return
After Tax
15%
0%
16,366,500
15.0%
15%
3%
14,780,800
14.4%
15%
10%
12,386,300
13.4%
15%
30%
9,694,000
12.0%
15%
80%
8,136,600
11.1%
15%
100%
7,990,800
11.0%
Source: www.tweedy.com
Group
Annual Turnover
Single Men
85%
Married Men
75%
Married Women
53%
Single Women
51%
Phone Trading
~70%
Online Trading
~90%
Source: John Nofsinger
Potential Disadvantages
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selecting a good index
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high-fee index funds & ETFs
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limited diversification from specialty indices
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valuation
MER
0.17
0.25
0.31
0.25
0.25
0.48
MER
0.15
0.11
0.30
0.33
0.48
MER
0.17
0.18
0.18
0.20
0.20
0.15
0.20
MER
0.35
0.35
0.48
0.48
0.50
0.60
0.75
Valuation
Valuation
Margin of Safety
Assets on the cheap
Stable growth
Low debt with a high earnings yield.
Price-to-Earnings
Price-to-Book
Price-to-Cash Flow
High Dividend Yield
Dividend Yield
Warren Buffett
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Strong Companies
Concentration
Margin of Safety
Qualitative
Problems
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My Approximation
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Initial Price
Current Price
2000 Graham Stocks (12/12/2000)
AAR Corp (AIR)
$11.94
$9.70
Haverty Furniture (HVT)
$10.06
$20.76
La-z-boy (LZB)
$15.88
$23.20
Rollins Truck (RLC)
Bought in 2001
Reliance Steel (RS)
$25.13
$23.00
Tredegar Corp (TG)
$15.56
$15.70
Thor Industries (THO)
$19.69
$60.70
Wabash National (WNC)
$7.81
$16.75
Watsco (WSO)
$11.35
$19.65
Average Gain
S&P500 (SPY)
2001 Graham Stocks (10/29/2001)
Centex (CTX)
$39.45
$83.71
Domtar (DTC)
$8.19
$11.38
Haverty Furniture (HVT)
$12.80
$20.76
M.D.C. Holdings (MDC)
$27.35
$59.11
Pulte Homes (PHM)
$33.83
$71.42
Average Gain
S&P500 (SPY)
2002 Graham Stocks (10/27/2002)
Centex (CTX)
$43.38
$83.71
Pulte Homes (PHM)
$46.17
$71.42
D.R. Horton (DHI)
$20.16
$36.12
Woodward Governor Company
$36.62
$45.97
(WGOV)
M.D.C. Holdings (MDC)
$37.91
$59.11
Standard Pacific (SPF)
$25.10
$40.39
Seaboard (SEB)
$207.00
$229.50
Universal Forest Products (UFPI)
$18.34
$26.93
Haverty Furniture (HVT)
$11.75
$20.76
Watsco, Inc. (WSO)
$14.25
$19.65
Average Gain
S&P500 (SPY)
Source: quote.yahoo.com, *Adjusted for splits
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Gain
-15.8%
112.4%
52.7%
82.0%
-5.9%
3.5%
*517.7%
116.1%
102.6%
107.3%
-22.2%
112.8%
43.0%
65.3%
*164.1%
111.8%
99.4%
-1.4%
93.3%
55.0%
80.4%
28.1%
*72.5%
62.2%
12.3%
47.3%
78.7%
38.7%
56.8%
16.3%
10 lowest
P/Es
10 highest
P/Es
30 DJIA
Stocks
1937-42
-2.2%
-10.0%
-6.3%
1943-47
17.3%
8.3%
14.9%
1948-52
16.4%
4.6%
9.9%
1953-57
20.9%
10.0%
13.7%
1958-62
10.2%
-3.3%
3.6%
1963-69
8.0%
4.6%
4.0%
Average
11.8%
2.4%
4.6%
Source: Benjamin Graham
low
1
Return
19.0%
17.4%
14.6%
high
5
market
13.1%
12.3%
15.3%
low
1
Return
19.0%
17.4%
14.6%
high
5
market
13.1%
12.3%
15.3%
market
low
1
high
5
Return
18.0%
16.6%
15.8%
13.7%
11.2%
15.1%
market
low
1
high
5
Return
18.8%
16.3%
14.6%
13.7%
12.0%
15.1%
market
14.9%
high
1
low
5
Return
16.1%
17.5%
15.1%
13.8%
12.2%
low
1
Return
17.7%
16.7%
16.1%
high
5
market
13.7%
12.2%
15.3%
high
1
Return
17.0%
16.0%
14.9%
low
5
market
14.1%
12.7%
14.9%
No need to rush
P/E buy-and-hold annual returns (1970-1996)
Quintile
2 Years
3 Years
5 Years
8 Years
1 (low)
18.7%
18.1%
18.7%
18.4%
16.9%
16.5%
17.1%
17.5%
15.3%
15.2%
15.5%
16.2%
13.5%
13.7%
14.4%
15.3%
5 (high)
11.9%
11.3%
11.8%
12.8%
Market
15.3%
15.0%
15.6%
16.2%
high
1
Return
16.1%
17.5%
15.1%
low
5
market
13.8%
12.2%
14.9%
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Dividend Growth
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High yield compared to similar payout ratios
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Stick to low dividend payout ratios
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Current and expected profits
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Little debt
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Distressed Dividends
Warren Buffett
We believe that our formula the purchase at sensible prices of
businesses that have good underlying economics and are run by
honest and able people is certain to produce reasonable
success.
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An investor should act as though he had a lifetime decision card
with just twenty punches on it. With every investment decision his
card is punched, and he has one fewer available for the rest of his
life.
< Concentration
There is simply no precision to the process - and if you think so,
you are kidding yourself. There should be such a margin of safety
that you dont need to carry it out to three decimal places.
< Margin of safety
The qualitative is harder to teach and understand, so why not just
focus on the quantitative? ... It makes more sense to buy a
wonderful business at a fair price.
< Difficult to emulate
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Norman Rothery
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