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The concept of an afterlife is inhumane and immoral. Belief in the continuation of your "soul" or consciousness
after death is wishful thinking. Belief in an afterlife devalues the one life that actually exists: this one.

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Worshipping Death

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Aaron Kinney

The Rapture is a popular belief among Christians. This belief states that Jesus Christ will come back to
Earth from heaven and send the devout, deserving Christians directly to Heaven just before the
Tribulation or Armageddon occurs.
Rapture Letters is an extremely popular website where Christians can set up automated letter e-mailings
to their friends and loved ones upon their ascension to Heaven, informing them of their departure. And
the Rapture Ready Message Board is a place for Christians to discuss rapture-related issues.
If you spend some time reading posts on the Rapture Ready Message Board, you will quickly see that these
Christians are obsessed with the rapture. They want it to happen, and they want it soon. For example, I
as I am writing this article, I went to this post and found a registered user with the username "Can't
Wait!". It doesn't take a genius to realize what it is that this person can't wait for. This user literally
wants to leave this existence and go to the afterlife ASAP. The people on this message board want Jesus
to come to Earth, swoop them up, and initiate a deadly Armageddon among those who are "not saved". I
have even seen on numerous occasions people writing prayers on this message board, asking Jesus to
come quickly; to come now. These people literally want to leave this life and pass on to the afterlife.
They worship death in that they pray for this life to end.

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This comes back to primacy assignment. These Rapture-obsessed Christians assign primacy to the
afterlife, and therefore pray to have this life sacrificed to serve their afterlife desires. This current life
plays second fiddle to them, and they only care about their deeds in this life to the point that it serves
their position in the afterlife. What can be more inhumane than the sacrificing of their own current lives
and the lives of their peers?

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This is what happens when someone holds afterlife-belief as true. Christians have been praying for Jesus
second coming, and the end of life as we know it, for over a thousand years. Of course, to the Christian,
their actions are not inhumane. They think that getting more people to pray for the ushering in of the end
of life is a good, humane, caring thing. Christians are not willfully evil, it is simply the afterlife-belief
that distorts their views into thinking that death-worship is moral. They don't even see death as death,
but as an ascension to a better place. Funny that whenever a Christian's life is threatened, instinct kicks
in and they fight to preserve their life. When a car is about to run them over, they jump out of the way.
When a criminal tries to kill them, they attempt to flee or defend themselves. Is that the sign of a true
believer? Is there a good reason that the self-preservation instinct kicks in if they really desire to leave
this life? Chief Justice Scalia even once said that it's no big deal if people get wrongly put to death, as
God makes things right in the afterlife. Who wants to put their life in the hands of someone like that? Not
even many Christians would want to have their life in his hands.

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The person that does not believe in the afterlife will not likely wish for this world to end, or for their life
to end. I know I sure don't. I am very happy with this life, and I wish to protect it. I value this existence,
and my life in it, more than anything else. The Rapture-worshipping Christians do not; they worship
death.

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26 comments:
david said...
Holy Crap - literally. Those "rapture ready" freaks are amazing.

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thanks for pointing that site out! some of that shit is hilarious!
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the occult, the older ones always had that old guy pretending to be a ghost or monster. The newer ones,
have 'real' witches and ghosts. Be careful of what your little ones watch." LMAO now Scooby Doo is the
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"My daughter was into [witchcraft] big time for awhile. Says she's out of it I'm told but she still isn't too
crazy about christianity. Though she's saved...baptized 9-11-01 of all days." Um, so she's not bothered
about Jesus, but she's 'saved' anyway because you sprinkled some water over her. Right. And if she went
out pillaging and murdering, she would still be saved, right?

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Outstanding post (as usual). You really bring up some good points that are essential to understand the
mentality of these Christian fundamentalists. Their stance on life becomes more understandable when one
realizes that they are focused on their imaginary afterlife.

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Aaron Kinney said...

Thank you for all the comments everyone. One of the important things I think we need to remember is
that, while Christians do believe in an afterlife that is supposed to be better than this current life, there is
a barrier or threshold of DEATH that first must be reached to get to this imaginary afterlife. Even while a
Christian has good intentions with their afterlife belief, they must usher in DEATH to acheive it. So,
regardless of whether you are coming from an atheist or theist perspective, DEATH is key component.
1:49 PM, June 29, 2005

Pyro_Shark said...
I disagree that they "worship" death, in a sense. They definately view death as more important than life,
but I don't think that worship is the right word.
I put myself on the Rapture Letters list. That way I'll be informed when the Rapture happens. Right after I
added my name, they asked for some money... figures. What's more likely is they'll forget to reset the
deadman's switch, and all the letters will be sent. THAT would be something to talk about. :D
4:06 PM, June 29, 2005

sA said...
I am being raptured right now!
5:25 PM, June 29, 2005

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Nice comments. Gee some times people think every Republican is a bible thumping zealot, not me. Hate all
religions but am a good guy, tho a barbarian.

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Francois Tremblay said...

Bwahahaha ! Yea, some Republicans are not Bible-thumping zealots, they're just gullible followers of Biblethumping idiots.

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Philaletheia
As for death, why worship that which doesn't exist ? To die is for the self to cease to exist. But when the
self ceases to exist, perception ceases to exist. So we can never perceive it. So what's the big deal ?
12:41 PM, June 30, 2005

worldcitizen said...
The obvious response to these people is to try to convince them (deviously) that the rapture IS actually
happening already. But there's no engraved invitation from Jesus, they have to have enough faith to take
the action necessary to send themselves on their way. NOW--BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
It's not very nice, I know. But anyone who falls for it might be better off. Those of us left behind certainly

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would be.
1:12 PM, July 01, 2005

Delta said...
It truly is scary in a world with weapons of mass destruction that large sections of the population are
looking forward to the end of the world. I hope that people will come to their senses before it's too late.
11:20 PM, July 01, 2005

bleedingisaac said...
hee, hee. I just went to the site and added some names to the list. I gave them the email addresses for
Pope Benedict, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and James Dobson. I wonder if the manager of the site will
catch the irony?
9:32 AM, July 03, 2005

breakerslion said...
Abandon faith, all ye who enter. It's easy to see why faith in one's fellow man will never be an acceptable
replacement for faith in faith-based religions. What a weird perversion of elitism: "Just you wait! You'll get
yours! Not us though, we're 'saved'! Just all you 'thems'!"
To me, its just another example of the sad fact that you can find some people to believe anything. Makes
me want to run out and start a saucer cult. The enttrance to the tabernacle will be conveniently located
over an old mine shaft. "Right this way, mind the first step!"
9:25 AM, July 04, 2005

Aaron Kinney said...

bleedingisaac, good job! Nice move.
8:41 AM, July 05, 2005

hashishan prophet said...

O man you guys are such fools! Rapture is reality -- Christ is a monkey lie! There is no salvation except thru'
me -- SARA -- preacher of sacred virtues and holy blessings.
REPENT and accept EVERY JOT AND TITTLE of my teachings or you will be utterly destroyed!
September 21, 2012...what does that mean to you?
DAY OF UNIVERSAL CHAOS!!! only hope -- thru' me!!! DEATH IS VERY REAL == MR. TREMBLAY!!! You will
"tremble" with the unbearable pain of HELL lest you abandon the darkness for the light of SARA!
REPENT, fagots!
11:19 AM, July 05, 2005

Aaron Kinney said...

LOL u nutjob.
September 21, 2012...what does that mean to you?
It means another day on another year. On closer inspection, I see alot of 1s and 2s in that date. But
otherwise, not much.
How many end of the world predictions have come and gone? Hey nutjob, will you care to wager a bet with
me regarding 9/12/2012? I bet $1K that the world will NOT end on that date.
What will you do if the world continues as normal on that date? Will you do what other prophets do and
just revise the date to another future moment?
Is this your first end of the world prediction, or were you wearing tinfoil on your head on 12/31/1999?
12:27 PM, July 05, 2005

Bliggety Blast Circle said...

The thing I find most hilarious is the guy who has a relative in EVERY faith, including a Jehovah sister, so he
knows everything. He probably has a gay black/hispanic best friend, too. These people are putting down all
these other religions based on rediculous differences of there own Xtian beliefs. Is it irony, ya think?
Putting other people down because they are gullible when they are essentially the same beliefs. I could go
on and on, these people are on the extreme end for sure.
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Bahnsen Burner said...

hashishan prophet asked:
September 21, 2012...what does that mean to you?
Is that the day when the Mayan calendar comes to an end? I guess the reasoning is supposed to go like this:
Since the creators of the calendar ended it with this day, then time will therefore end on that day as a
result. Classic primacy of consciousness there.
"Whenever the earth is supposed to end, it does. Within a month and a day of the end the Aztecs were
expecting, came Cortez." - Ingram Marshall, Cortez
7:05 PM, July 05, 2005

boywonder said...
How would you guys and gals respond to this?:
I told my christian friend about Luke 19:27 [paraphrasing, Those who would not follow me, bring them in
front of me and kill them]. Several verses back it mentions these verses to be a parable. He told me this
Luke 19:27 is a parable of the end of days when Jesus is supposed to return. He said Jesus will have
non-believers lined up and killed. I don't want to hurt my friend's feelings, but what can you say to that? It
seems he will believe anything to keep the bible coherent. I don't want to tell him Jesus is an asshole if he
says I love you and then kills everyone who he thinks doesn't love him back, but what other recourse do I
have?
7:55 PM, July 07, 2005

Jim rrrr. said...

These people are nuts I live in same building as one. She can't wait either. She rants sometimes about the
world being so bad. We live in N.Cal.THE best most peaceful place I've ever lived. And still she rants. She is
also paranoid, People are after her etc.. I wonder if this isn't common for such people to want rapture
because they have no hope for the future? I think what we all need to do is call dibs on their stuff and ask
them if we can't have it. Really, ask them and see what they say. Have them put it in writing. I did, what a
trip, they get a bit confused. When the reality of what they believe hits them. I think because they realize
that people will be left here and we are fully willing to accept that outcome. In fact they may realize how
crazy they have become and with our help may seek the help they need. My bumper sticker says "In case of
rapture I've got dibs on the Mercedes in front of us". Jim
11:03 AM, July 17, 2005

Dave Harty said...

I've read the entire Left Behind series. Not because I'm Christian (I'm not, in fact I have a satan t-shirt just
for fun.) but because I like the idea of re-interpreting a work of fiction. Did you know? It's all based on this
one book. And by all, I mean Judeo-Christiandom and spiraled outwards. One book has given us billions of
crazy people. Crusades. Hate Crimes. Death worship. It's almost too unbelievable a phenomenon to be
real.
11:20 AM, August 19, 2005

Alvin Miller said...

My inaugural address at the Great White Throne Judgment of the Dead, after I have raptured out billions!
At: http://www.angelfire.com/crazy/spaceman
3:48 AM, January 15, 2006

Vad said...
"The person that does not believe in the afterlife will not likely wish for this world to end, or for their life
to end."
i beg to differ. While on a general level, that may be true, there are always the exceptions. Locally there
are quite a few persons of whom do not believe in an afterlife. Roughly half of them are eagerly awaiting
death. Weird, perhaps they just want an end to it i suppose.
11:13 PM, January 12, 2008

Anonymous said...
I have been wondering about why atheists don't convert to Christianity when the following reasons come
up (besides "I don't have time for that").
If there is a God and you are a Christian, you go to heaven.
If there is a God and you are an atheist, you go to hell and get your worst fears repeated on you for
eternity.
Right there that is a plus for Christianity and a minus for atheism.
To continue this, if there is no God, and you are a Christian, you go nowhere when you die.

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If there is no God when you die and you are an atheist then you go nowhere as well.
But that is zero and zero for this last part. Totaled up it is Plus for Christians and Minus for Atheists.
So...would you rather go to Heaven or go to Hell or would you rather gamble that choice away to find out
whether or not there is a God?
1:28 PM, May 04, 2008

Simon K said...
I understand your argument as this: If when I die I go to heaven, and heaven is enormously better than this
life, I best die as soon as possible. If when I die I cease to exist, I best hang on as long as this life is worth
still living. Hence, you argue, belief in the afterlife has negative consequences.
But what about reincarnation? If I believe when I die, I'm just going to come back, there seems little rush
to die. If this life ain't that great, what reason do I have to think another one would be any better? So, if
you belief in reincarnation as an afterlife, there seems little reason to approach the world much
differently than someone who believes that death is the end. I suppose, the believer in reincarnation
might be more willing to give up their life (given they'll get another one), but only it seems if doing so has
great enough benefit to justify.
4:23 AM, October 15, 2008

Anonymous said...
>The person that does not believe in the afterlife will not likely wish for this world to end, or for their life
to end.
Rather wrong really, there's many atheist misanthropes in the world, I know if I could I'd wipe out all of
humanity myself included hoping that there is no afterlife for humanity to wallow in.
7:46 PM, July 05, 2011

Horapollo Aesymnetes said...

Nietzsche's "The Antichrist" is largely constructed upon such lines, as is some of Stirner's critique of the
'spiritual' orientation of Christians and philosophers. Ayn Rand's views (probably influenced by Nietzsche)
are similar: Christianity is essentially anti-life: they fear sex, food, anger, money and everything that
makes life work. You say they're not evil? Well, 'evil' is nonsense, but they certainly are psychological
cripples. I wish they would hurry up and join their Lord.
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