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(Dr. Robert Calimlim)

To be considered
for this specialty,
what is the Step 1
score range?

Above 210 in both parts I

and II is necessary to be
considered as a strong

Do students need
to be at the top of
the class to be
competitive in this

Being at the top of the

class is definitely a plus
since this is a competitive

Is research a
consideration for
candidacy in this

Research is not required to

be considered.

How important are

away electives?

Away electives are

important if the student
wants to be noticed at the
away program. Acting
Internship is a plus since it
allows the student to know
the program as well as
learn anesthesia.

If students did
well on Step 1,
should they try to
take Step 2 before
Rank Order Lists
are due?

Anesthesiology specialty is
very competitive that a lot
of the applicants have very
good Step 1. Having a
very good Step 2 score
shows consistency for the
student as a very strong

Should letters of
all come from this
specialty or should
also have others?
What do you want
students to know
about your
program in

Does your
Chairs letter?

Our program offers a very

strong clinical program
with a very good
opportunity for excellent

The specialty per se does

not, there are departments
that do, but we certainly
dont and the vast majority
of departments dont.

Specialty General Info

(Dr. Ramsay Farah)
Im not familiar anymore with the
exact scoring system of the boards,
but the higher the score, the better.
There is no shortage of applications
to get into dermatology and so one
of the methods of weeding out
applications is to go by board scores.
If the score is in the 90th percentile
and above, I think thats generally
favorably viewed. Board scores are
not the only parameter taken into
account though.
Yes. There are exceptions though.
If there is something that makes
ones application stand out, such as
their background, a certain unique
experience, etc., that is certainly
helpful. In other words, people who
are not at the top of their class may
still be competitive but the higher the
class rank, the better.
Not necessarily if all the other
parameters are met (board scores,
class rank, letters, etc.). Research is
always an added plus to anyones
application though, but I dont think
its an absolute necessity.
Away electives are extremely
important. Since we dont have a
training program here, I would
advise interested candidates to take
the dermatology elective here. Let
us get the kinks out and then I
advise doing an away elective at a
program that one is interested in
applying. This is a chance to shine
and make one-self known at a
program of interest.
I dont know. This is a question of
detail that might best be answered by
calling up a specific program and
answering, or even the American
Academy of Dermatology offices,
and they can either answer this or
refer the caller to someone who can.
I dont think all letters need to come
from this specialty. Of course, some
of them should. If there is an
opportunity to get a letter from a
program head who is well know, that
is an added plus.
Since we dont have a program here,
I advise interested students to take
the dermatology elective here as a
practice run. Once completed, they
are in a stronger position to do an
away elective at a program that they
are interested in applying to. This
will give them an opportunity to
shine (show off their knowledge in
an appropriate fashion), participate
in journal clubs, present articles,
write case reports or participate in
research projects. This will make
them a known commodity at that
institution. At the very least, if they
do a good job, they can get letters of
recommendation (especially from a
well known chair person).

Not required, but is recommended.

Emergency Medicine
(Dr. Paul Ko)

Family Medicine
(Dr. John Epling)

200-230s (mean 223) according to

2011 match data

Most directors say they cut off

below about 200, but Step 2
scores rank higher in
importance to PDs.


Grades in clerkships tend to be

the most important. Class rank
factors less highly, and preclinical grades are not

Not necessary to have research

experience. Although our dept does
have a great research elective that is
run by Dr. William Grant for any
students with research interests.

Not generally.

Definitely do AI at home institution,

recommend to do one additional away
EM AI if considering other regions

They help especially if in

Family Medicine.

No necessary to take Step 2 before

interviews in the fall, but some
programs do require Step 2 prior to
rank order list in February.

It helps it is part of the

overall emphasis on clinical
year performance.

At least 2 or more Letters should be

from EM faculty

Mainly from family medicine,

but a strong letter from outside

Upstate Dept of EM has many faculty

who are open to mentor and help
student in their questions about the
specialty and application process. Our
faculty and resident are very
approachable to any and all student
questions. Our residency offers a very
strong training program with excellent
trauma experience, pediatric
experience, and all aspects of EM
training. We have a faculty base that
has done residency here as well
throughout the country to bring a wide
variety of clinical experience and
expertise. The AI experience in EM is
also an excellent opportunity to be
exposed to the field of EM, with
simulation and teaching sessions in
small group settings with our EM
faculty and is strongly encouraged for
all who are interested in the specialty.
No , a chair letter is not required in
our specialty.

Dr. Tucker (program director at

St. Josephs Hospital) is happy
to meet with students interested
in Family Medicine in general
to describe more about these
and other questions.
Family Medicine values
relationships and interpersonal
qualities most, as these are the
tools that we primarily use to
care for our patients.
Performance in team care on
rotations, good interactions
with patients in all settings and
your performance in
interviews, etc., weigh as or
more highly than grades.

A chair letter is not required.

Internal Medicine
(Dr. Stephen Knohl)

(Dr. Michael Vertino)

(Dr. Lawrence Chin)

(Dr. Linda Newell)

To be considered for
this specialty, what is
the Step 1 score range?

200 or higher

Above the 90th


Do students need to be
at the top of the class to
be competitive in this

No; however, the stronger your

resume, the more attractive you
will be to the higher quality IM

There is a wide range of acceptable

scores, but most programs are
looking for at least 80. The strongest
programs look for 90.
It helps but is not necessary. There
is a wide range of programs and
fewer interested American Grads
than Spots nationwide. The top
places are however, very

Is research a strong
consideration for
candidacy in this

No; however, should you be

sound curricularly and you also
have scholarship on your
rsum, you will be more
attractive to higher quality IM
Away electives mean nothing to
IM Program Directors so dont
waste your time/money.

It is likely to help at the most

competitive programs, but most
programs are clinically based.

In some programs it is
essential. In general, it is
a strong consideration.

Acting Internships are an important

way to impress your colleagues,
especially letter writers. Away
electives are important to put a face
to numerous applications received,
especially if the applicant has a
particular program they are
interested in.

Very, gives the program a

chance to see the
candidate in action.

200-260. Last year, this was the

range for the resident applicants
who we interviewed. We prefer
to see scores of 220 or higher.
No. They do, however, need a
competitive package: board
scores, transcript, dean's letter,
personal statement, and
interview (most important
component because we are
looking for a "goodness of fit".)
Most OB/GYN programs will
require research and encourage
publications and presentations.
We encourage completion of
Step 2 (CK and CS) before
If you are sure of a geographic
area/program and you perform
well, it can be helpful.

I would post a part 2 score if you are

trying to strengthen your application.

They can wait. If they did

well they should not risk
not doing as well on step

Many programs require Step 1

and Step 2 scores (CK and CS)
before ranking.

Beyond the required Chair letter,

I recommend at least one other
letter from a member within the
Department; the remaining
letters can be from whomever
can best advocate for the

It helps if the chair or other well

connected physician in the specialty
writes one of the letters. But strong
letters from any respected person are

Better to come from the

specialty. Letters from
other specialties are not
looked at usually.

1) 99% Board Pass Rate since

2) Excellent clinical training in
three distinct hospitals
geographically right next to one
another with outstanding postgraduate placement in
fellowship or primary care.
3) 3 and 1 block system
providing separation for
inpatient and outpatient
4) Innovative educational
techniques such as Learning To
TALK and Education Through
Theatre Arts.

We have a strong clinical training

program with good variety, our
residents get very comfortable taking
care of Stroke and ICU patients and
afterwards land excellent
fellowships. Dr. Bradshaw runs a
very supportive ship.

Research is a strong

Letters of recommendations
should come from people who
know you best, but try for in
specialty. We have
recommended that students get
at least two in specialty letters,
with the other two coming from
disciplines like medicine and
We consider our clinical cases
and research opportunities to be
among the top in the country. As
a regional center for 19 hospitals
in central New York, the most
complex OB and GYN patients
are seen as referrals to our
services. We continue to evolve
our program, with the expansion
of innovative programs
including simulation in OB and


No, but it would be very

suspicious not to have

How important are

away electives? Acting

If students did well on

Step 1, should they try
to take Step 2 before
Rank Order Lists are
Should letters of
recommendations all
come from this specialty
or should also have

What do you want

students to know about
your program in

Does your specialty

REQUIRE a Chairs

Consider an AI a must; however,

your transcript need not reflect
that youve done an AI prior to
applying, but rather that there
will be an AI completed prior to
All depends on the Step 1 Score.
My advice is take Step 2 if Step
1 Score is <220.



(Dr. Ann BarkerGriffith)

Orthopedic Surgery
(Dr. Stephen Albanese)

(Dr. Robert

(Dr. Robert Corona)

To be considered for
this specialty, what is
the Step 1 score range?

Candidates scoring less

than 200 are at a
disadvantage though we
do consider a few
candidates below this
mark if other parts of
their CV are exceptional.

Typically above 220,

though many are
above 240

The higher, the better. But scores

are not as important as your
perceived ability to work with

Do students need to be
at the top of the class
to be competitive in
this specialty?

The majority of
candidates offered an
interview and finally
accepted are usually in
the top third of their
Absolutely not.

To my knowledge, there is no published

information on this. From talking to many
orthopedic program directors, it is my
impression that several programs use 230 or 240
as a cutoff for offering interviews. Getting an
interview is the essential first step to getting
accepted into a program. Another way to be
considered is to do an AI at the program. I
havent compiled the data on our students, but
its my impression that it gets much more
difficult if your scores are below 220.
Although lower scores dont make it impossible
to match, they make the probability much
lower. We have had people match in our
program with scores in the 200 range. We have
also had students match at other programs with
scores in the 200 range and below. It usually
takes something extra, such as doing a PG1 year
or AI at the program and getting to know the
people there.
In orthopedics, the USMLE step I scores seem
to count much more than the grades or class
rank. Programs argue that it is the best way to
compare students from one school to another.

Typically top quarter

or better

No. The ability to achieve as an

individual does not necessarily
correlate with the ability to be an
effective team player.

The importance placed on research seems to

vary among programs. It is important to some
programs, while other programs consider it very
little. It isnt as strongly weighted as the step I
score. The research doesnt necessarily have to
be in orthopedics. The quality of the project
and the level of participation are more
important. If a student starts a project, it is
important to follow it through. It hurts students
evaluations to start a project and not complete
They are important for getting an interview and
allowing the program get a closer look at the
student. Many programs will interview most or
all of the students who do electives in their
program. In some ways its an extended
interview. Unless the USMLE step I score is
very high, I would consider one or more away
electives almost a requirement.
In the past I have advised students who scored
well on Step I to wait to take Step 2, figuring
that it could only hurt. Recently I have heard
that some programs are starting to require step 2
scores. My advice is for students to look at
what programs are requiring when they begin
organizing their applications.
It is usually helpful for at least 2 of the 3 letters
to come from the specialty. In general, letters
dont help applications much. Most people are
able to get 3 positive letters. Since orthopedics
is a relatively small specialty, sometimes
programs will know the authors of letters that
come from within the specialty and as a result,
look at them more closely. I also usually advise
the students that letters outside the specialty are
helpful if they are from someone who knows
the student well and its clear in the letter.
Its a strong program and they would get a good
education. Our graduates are competitive for
good fellowships and practice opportunities.

It certainly helps, and

published papers help
as well

There are two types of Pathology

careers. Private practice or
Academic. Private practice does
not require research experience.

Not critical

A rotation in pathology is
encouraged because you need to
know what the career is like. An
away elective is helpful if there is
one particular program that you
absolutely want to be in.

Stop with a great


Not necessary!

Should be mostly
within specialty

A mixture. Letters should come

from people that know you and
can attest to your ability to work
effectively with others.

Upstate students will

be granted an
interview -- we are a
very competitive

Our Residency program is

nationally known for having
strong Anatomic and Clinical
Pathology training. As a result,
our residents get into some of the
most prestigious Pathology
Not required, but certainly doesnt

Is research a strong
consideration for
candidacy in this

How important are

away electives?
Acting Internships?

Not at all. Actively

discourage more than

If students did well on

Step 1, should they try
to take Step 2 before
Rank Order Lists are

They can wait if above

225. If they did well they
should not risk not doing
as well on Step 2.

Should letters of
recommendations all
come from this
specialty or should
also have others?

Absolutely not all from

Optho. One from Optho
others from major
specialties like Internal
Medicine or General

What do you want

students to know about
your program in

Connect with Edwina


Does your specialty

REQUIRE a Chairs

A chair letter is not


A Chairs letter is not required for most

programs, but is highly recommended. It is
noticeable when its absent.

A chair letter is not


To be considered for
this specialty, what is
the Step 1 score range?

(Dr. Gloria Kennedy)

Physical Medicine & Rehab

(Dr. Faisal Siddiqui)


(Dr. Thomas Schwartz)

Students generally score above 200 for pediatric

residencies. In our program, we have accepted
applicants in a range of scores from just below 200
to above 250.

Step 1 score range is close to

average for that sitting, although
being below average does not
disclude you from successfully
matching (there are of course
programs that are more
competitive where better than
average is advantageous)

Please feel
free to
either Dr.
Baum or
Phone #:

We used to prefer scores over 80

but since USMLE has
inexplicably done away with 2
digit scores which had an
anchored pass (80) the new
scores dont tell us much. I
mostly prefer to see rising scores
on USMLEs as they become
more clinically oriented

If your score is low and you feel it does not reflect

your abilities, do not let that deter you from
applying to a good pediatric program. When
developing rank order lists, programs look closely
at letters of reference, class rank/quartile and your
interview experience.
Do students need to be
at the top of the class to
be competitive in this

There are 194 pediatric categorical residency

programs in the US. In 2014, there were 2,640
positions were available and 3,993 applications for
those positions. Of those, 2,065 were US
applicants. The pediatric programs enrolled 1,818
US seniors, with the rest of the positions filled by
non-US graduates. That means US seniors filled
68.9 percent of the positions. You have a good
chance of getting a pediatric residency if you are a
US graduate. ( See: Note that each state is different.
The percent of accepted US graduates ranges from
9.4% (NJ) to 93% (CO). New York State had 362
positions in 2014, and 186 were filled by US

Being in the middle of your

class is appropriate for matching
most places (again more
competitive programs look for
more competitive applicants)

No, though it certainly doesnt

hurt. It has become a less useful
marker, as many, if not most,
schools no longer post class
standing so one loses any benefit
of comparisons.

Your class quartile will likely be considered when

programs rank you (just like USMLE scores). If
you are at the top of your class, you can consider
very competitive programs. If you are at the
bottom of your class, your chances will depend on
the number of US graduates that are applying
during your graduating year. Try not to go too
crazy applying to many schools. Please talk to one
of our pediatric faculty for help in refining your list
of programs and assistance with your personal
Is research a strong
consideration for
candidacy in this

Anything that you do that enables your application

to stand out from others will be beneficial to you.
If you have an interest in an area of research, many
programs will identify a faculty member with the
same interests who will interview you. It will be
important to come prepared to share your
enthusiasm for whatever projects you have listed
on your CV. Large pediatric programs with strong
fellowship programs often look at the research
component of your portfolio. In general, however,
research is not a strong consideration for candidacy
in pediatrics.

Research is not a consideration

for matching, but does help if
you have it (competitive
programs look for it too!)

Not required, but raises an

applicants ranking in our
selection if he/she has published.

How important are

away electives? Acting

An acting internship can be an important time for

you to learn inpatient pediatrics and prepare for
some aspects of residency training. Your
application can be enhanced by a strong letter from
an attending who knows your work well. You may
find that the acting internship is a good opportunity
for you to show your best work. However, if you
do not get an opportunity to do an acting internship
prior to sending in your residency applications, it is
not an essential part of the application packet. In
fact, some people recommend doing the acting
internship after your rank order list is submitted,
reducing the pressure to perform and giving you
a more realistic opportunity to learn.

Away electives/AI's definitely

help improve chances to match
with your top choices and all
programs invariably look more
favorably on applicants if they
have worked with them before
(that is true for any residency

Most important to me is grade or

evaluation from Psychiatry
clerkship where students are
compared to a large number of
other students. We also like to
see some evidence of having
tried out an AI in Psychiatry
while recognizing most AIs
receive an honors grade for their
work. Away electives are an
excellent way to let other
schools you want to get into
know who you are. We like
someone we know better than
someone we only meet for a day
and on paper.

Away electives can be helpful in guiding you to

learn about other programs. For example, if you
are interested in a pediatric program in your home
town, an away elective at that institution can help
you to get the insiders view of the program. The
Upstate Golisano Childrens Hospital offers many
pediatric electives with excellent faculty, and we
hope that you will consider taking electives here as

If students did well on

Step 1, should they try
to take Step 2 before
Rank Order Lists are

Should letters of
recommendations all
come from this specialty
or should also have

Most of our applicants have taken Step 2 prior to

the due date of the rank order list. Upstate students,
even if they have done well on Step 1, are at a
disadvantage if they do not take this exam because
it limits comparability to other schools and
students. If you have a low score on Step 1 and
have not taken Step 2, you are at a disadvantage.
You should get letters from faculty that know you
the best and who are willing to write a good or
strong letter for you. You should have at least
two of the three from clinical pediatric faculty so
that it does not look like you are applying to other
residency programs and are using pediatrics as a

What do you want

students to know about
your program in

Our program is a medium-sized program located in

a childrens hospital within a hospital. Our faculty
numbers are large, with a 1:1 faculty to student
ratio and with a depth of specialty representation
that is unusual for a program of this size. Our
patient population is varied and includes a diverse
representation from over 17 counties. Faculty and
residents are dedicated to teaching, and we have a
strong advisor program. We support our residents
in their individual goals, including research,
advocacy, underserved, international health and
other interests through our unique pathways
program. Graduating residents seek positions in
primary care or subspecialties with equal zeal, and
almost all graduates are able to find positions in
their first choice of subspecialty program. Our
American Board of Pediatrics pass rate over the
past five years is at the national average. Faculty
and residents are a close-knit group, and we are
continuously trying to improve our program.

Does your specialty

REQUIRE a Chairs

Not all programs require a chairs letter. Our

program only requires three letters, in total and we
do not require a letter from the chair. We find that
letters from faculty that know you well are far
more helpful. Our chair, Dr. Welch, sets up
appointments for fourth year students beginning in
the week after Labor Day. He will meet with you,
review your portfolio and write a supportive letter
within 48 hours of the meeting. Dr. Welch will
also use the chair letter meeting to review your
tentative list of programs, discuss any particular
strengths or possible weaknesses in your
application, critique your personal statement, and
provide any additional information or help.

Step 2 is not generally required

for matching, but it is required
for starting at PGY-2 in several
programs (this trend is becoming
the norm so applicants are
advised to plan accordingly)

I am very reassured by
applicants who show me they
can perform on clinically
focused exams. As above, I
prefer those with patterns of
rising scores on USMLEs.

Letters of recommendation are

helpful based on their content
and elaboration of the applicant's
unique qualities as an individual,
will work for the candidate, and
these need not come from the
specialty, however, tailoring the
choice of who to ask for a letter
is important to coordinate a
strong application (note, some
individual programs may prefer
at least one specialty letter and
will say so up front if that's the
Our program is a unique blend
of inpatient and outpatient with a
balance between consultants and
PMR management of patient
issues, our strengths include a
younger faculty who are
intimately familiar with the
program (past residents and even
medstudents), a balanced work
schedule, early support of
individual interest in terms of
career development, no inhouse
call, university based setting in a
tertiary care center,
individualized teaching directly
by attendings, strong links to
professional societies and
notable specialists, institutional
& department support of
academic & research interests,
membership in a professional
union (UUP) and overall,
centralized practice for the most
part, to name but a few good
things to look forward to
A Chairs letter is not required,
but it is recommended.

I very much prefer LORs from

psychiatrists, preferably
psychiatrists trained in the
American system.

We are convinced that there is

more to being an effective
physician than high grades and
knowing the right answers
dont make for good physicians
by themselves. Studies in
Psychiatry have shown that
grades and USMLE scores have
limited predictive value for who
will be considered excellent
psychiatrists by the end of
training. We spend a lot of time
teaching the importance of
developing effective working
alliances with our patients and
remain committed to our
residents becoming competent
psychotherapists as well as being

Do not require a Chairmans

letter. We prefer letters which
show the referee knows the
medical student about whom
he/she is writing.

Radiation Oncology
(Dr. Jeffrey Bogart)

(Dr. Michele Lisi)

(Dr. Robert Cooney)

(Dr. Gennady Bratslavsky)

To be considered for
this specialty, what is
the Step 1 score range?

Generally , 220 and above

We will consider a score
lower than that in special

Our program requirement is a minimum

Step I score of 200 on the first attempt.

Do students need to be
at the top of the class to
be competitive in this
Is research a strong
consideration for
candidacy in this

Generally, yes

Not necessarily, but it


As surgery is currently very competitive, it

is best to be, at a minimum, in the top half
of their class.

Not necessarily

Research is not mandatory, but it makes the

student more desirable showing a diverse
background and variety of interests, along
with increased knowledge from the
experience. However, the student needs to
be well versed in his/her research to be able
to discuss during an interview.

How important are

away electives? Acting

Away electives are not

important for the
application process, but
they can help the candidate
get a better feel for the

Yes, if it's quality research

and is something that truly
interests the candidate. I
would almost rather see no
research at all than have
someone who seemed to
do it just to get something
on the CV. Also, the
project does not
necessarily need to be in
radiology. I just like to see
some enthusiasm for an
academic endeavor.
Radiology does not have
the traditional acting
internships that are found
in other specialties. Away
electives are not essential.
I just want to see good
comments from the
elective directors.

It is preferable to have a score

above 225-230 to be
considered for Urology.
Having said that, if you work
hard in your AI and show that
you are reading and
enthusiastic about the
specialty, the Board score
may be lower.
To be competitive in the
match for Urology, it is
preferable to be near the top
of the class
It is if the Board scores are on
the weaker side or the grades
are not very good. Either
way, it is helpful to have
research experience, but not
necessary for most programs.

If students did well on

Step 1, should they try
to take Step 2 before
Rank Order Lists are

Most applicants seem to

take Step 2 early.

I personally like to see the

Step 2 scores, but it is not a
"deal breaker" if they
haven't taken it.

Should letters of
recommendations all
come from this specialty
or should also have

A mix is preferred.

I think at least 2 letters

should be from
radiologists, but they
should have one from
another specialist.

What do you want

students to know about
your program in

Does your specialty

REQUIRE a Chairs


The radiology program at

Upstate provides a
structured but friendly
working environment with
excellent didactic and case
conferences, a great variety
of cases, and a variety of
learning environments
from the university setting
to private practice. We
have excellent and
dedicated faculty in the
clinical and basic science
of radiology.
We do not require one.

Acting Internships in the specialty for

which the student is applying are very
important. We look for an honors grade
and also for comments referring to their
performance. An away elective can be
extremely important if the student has a
particular program in mind. It gives the
program faculty a chance to meet and work
with the student for an extended period. An
advantage over the brief interview
As most students have not yet taken Step II
by the time they interview, it is not an
overwhelming influence. However, a high
Step II score can be one of the deciding
factors when putting together a rank list.
Rather than hurry to take Step II, my feeling
is the student should be more concerned
with getting an optimum score
Letters of recommendation should come
from specialists in the area of medicine to
which the student is applying.

The clearly established objective of this

residency program is to prepare the
participants to be safe and effective
surgeons and to enable them to embark on a
successful and satisfying career in their
chosen field of surgery.

We do not specifically require a Chairs

LOR, but it is pretty much a given that any
student truly passionate about Surgery will
include a Chairs letter with his/her

Away elective are extremely

important as well as AIs.
Recommendation letters are
some of the most important
pieces in the application

If Step I scores are good,

students can wait to take step
II in the eyes of most

Letters are very important. It

is preferable to have specialty
letters. It doesn't hurt to have
others, but, most programs
will only look at the Urology
We have a very good
program. Everybody is
friendly and nice. We can
definitely provide a glimpse
into a field of Urology. The
program is fully accredited
and graduates excellent

I think its extremely

important. Nothing is a
requirement but programs
will not even consider a
student without a letter from
the chair. It will look