maverick_mark_cunningham_interview_21413

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MattCook:

HeyMattCookherewithHeatherHallman.HowareyoudoingHeather?

HeatherHallman:

Iamfantastictoday,howareyouMatt?

MattCook:

Iamdoingwonderfulandwehaveanamazinginterviewrightnowand
IvegotaspecialguestthatIwanttobringonandheisaformersoftware
guyandhehasanamazingbackground.Youjustwouldntbelieveworked
for some you know major companies and then learned some very
valuable techniques and secrets, studied for many years and I think
youregoingtojustbeyouregoingtonotjustevenbelievethisbutits
so for real and then so amazing at the same time. Now I really wanted
youtogetaglimpseofwhatthiscandoandhowthiscanhelpyouand
withoutfurtheradoIjustwanttointroduceMarkCunningham.Howare
youdoingMark?

MarkCunningham:

ImdoingwellMattthanksforhavingmeon.

MattCook:

Heymypleasure.Imsogladthatwemetrecentlyandweknowalotof
peopleincommonandImsogladyouagreedbecauseIknowyourtime
is extremely valuable to be here today. So what do you think that this
techniquethesystemthismethod,whoisitreallyaimedfor?

MarkCunningham:

WhatwearedoingisweretakingabunchoftechniquesthatIlearned
and perfected in my therapeutic practice and were taking them out of
the therapy room. Were not assuming that anybody is floored or
damaged or even doing something wrong instead were teaching men
howtheycanmostrapidlyandmostreliablymakethewomenintheirlife
fully orgasmic and thus giving these women very great pull very
appreciativeandverybondedtothem.

MattCook:

Okay. So this can be something that a man could use or work with his
wife,girlfriendorifhehasntmetsomebodyhecoulduseitthatway.

MarkCunningham:

Exactlyright.OneofthethingsthatIfoundisIknewthatallwomenwho
wanttobeorgasmicandcertainlyalotofpeopleareorgasmicthanthey
are and so of course it was very good for those people who are in
relationships.WhatIdidntrealizewhenIstartedouttobringthisoutto

thepublicwashowmanywomeningeneralwereinterestedinlearning
about these techniques, working with some man who understood and
couldinfactwhowilllikepracticethistechniquesandtheyinfactthey
long to be perfectly orgasmic with men today and they only just knew
thisbefore.
MattCook:

Sowhatsthedealwithwomen?Whydosomanywomenhavetrouble
withreachingorgasms?

MarkCunningham:

Orgasms are a mental phenomenon. Their bodies are involved and

certainly the body gets to enjoy the effect but orgasms are purely a
mentalemotionalprocess.Itsprobablybestexplainedifyouthinkhow
you might be walking around in public perhaps in an elevator or on a
train whatever someone reaches out with their hand and brushes up
againstyouandyousimplyinterpretthatasatouchwhetheritsneutral,
welcome,unwelcomeitsjustatouchthatsallitis.Yeahifyouturnthe
scenarioaroundalittlebitandyourewithsomeonethatyoucareabout
deeply and they reciprocate that feeling that same level of sensation,
thatsametouchinthesameplacecanhavetremendouseroticpotential.

Now the only difference is how youre thinking about it and so women
are complicated creatures I mean theyre gorgeous, theyre wonderful
buttheyrecomplicatedcreatures.Usuallytheyvegottoomuchgoingon
inside their head and what we teach women to do is slow down relax,
focusonwhotheyrewithandwhattheyreactuallyexperiencesothat
theentireexperienceofbeingwithoneofthesetrainedmenisaserotic
asarousingasthatsensuousintimatetouch.

MattCook:

I have noticed that. So a lot of women are not having orgasms are not
that orgasmic because theyre really multitasking in their heads. I think
womenaremuchmoremultitaskersthanmeningeneralandtheyreally
dont get into their bodies really they just dont get present enough to
reallyisthatkindofwhatyouresaying?

MarkCunningham:

Yeah. Ive heard women tell me the most amazing things. One woman
told me for example that when she was with someone who she really
thought was the one she just couldnt get off because she was worried
aboutwelldoeshethinkmythighsarefatoryouknowwehavealighton
intheroomandhesgoingtonoticemybodyandshehadapoorbody
image. Or she was worried about Im I going to be responsive enough

because after all he is the one then I have this pressure to become his
idealone.OfcoursealltheguyisthinkingaboutisImhavinggreatsex
withthisgreatgirl.Sowhenwomenlearntogetoutoftheirheadtothe
extent of poorly associating into the experience then they can be all
womenareorgasmic,allwomenaremultiorgasmic.
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MarkCunningham:

Allwomenarecapableofhavingorgasmstilltheypassoutanditsoneof
the great features, advantages of being a woman and once theyve
learnedthatthisispossiblewelltheresreallynogoingback.

MattCook:

Wow.Soyeahsoyouhadapracticeforawhileandsodidyouworkwith
women?Helpingthem.

MarkCunningham:

Yeah.

MattCook:

Isthatwhatyoudid?Okay.

MarkCunningham:

YeahIdidover30000professionalsessionsandoutofthatroughly98%
was with women. So I speaking as a man Ive probably talked to more
women than any other man alive and the good is I have a very good
appreciation for how they think, what they want, what they need and
what are these wants and needs that kind of cost all women not just
individuals.

MattCook:

Youknowifyoucouldtelluswhatwomenreallywant.Whataboutthe
phenomenon of what I call feminine lock down you know relationship
howwomengetkindofshutofftosexsometimesortheygetshutoffto
orgasms. Have you is that a real reason a lot women who are in
relationshipscametoyouinyourpractice?

MarkCunningham:

Wellyeah.Familiarityistheenemyofsexualpleasure.Whenyoubecome
veryfamiliarwithapersoninarelationshipthenyoustarttoseethemin
amuchbroadercontext.Allmenarefamiliarwiththisbecauseyoustart
outhotandthenitturnsintokindoflikemaintenancesexandthatturns
intotheclassichallwaysexwhereheswantingbysayingfuckyou,right.
Whatsgoingonisthatasyourlifebecomesmoreintertwinedandmore
complex then you begin to see your partner as your friend as your
businessassociateasyourbuddyasyouknowmotherofyourchildrenI

mean all kinds of things instead of that amazing hot babe that you just
couldntwaittohopon.
MattCook:

Right.

MarkCunningham:

YeahandsooneofthethingsthatImteachingmenishowtoreawaken
desireandresponseintheirwomensothattheyonceagainitsyouknow
this is Ill tell you man some of the things I say come across kind of
controversialtojusthangonforasecond.Whatalotofmenneedtodo
istheyneedtogetbacktoobjectifyingtheirwomenandbywhatImean
bythatistheyneedtogetbacktoinsteadoftreatingherasthiscomplex
extraordinary groggy human being, they need to just see her as this
screaminghotgirltheyjustwanttofuck.Right.IfIhadadollarforevery
time one of my therapy clients said, Why doesnt he just shut up and
fuckme?IdhavealotmoremoneythanIdonow.

MattCook:

Wellthatsreallyinteresting.SowhatyouresayingisthatletmeseeifI
cansummarize.Alotoftimesinarelationshipitgoesfrombeingareally
hotthingwhichisthefirstyearandahalftypicallytothehormonesthat
initially you know were all fired up they kind of calm down and then it
becomes a very multi faceted relationship. It can be almost a joint
venture lets have kids and raise them together, lets make money and
pullourincometogetherkindoflikeabusinessthinginaway.

MarkCunningham:

Right.

MattCook:

You see all these different facets of the person and youre saying that
after a while the man doesnt see the woman in that original sexy way
whichisclear.Whataboutthewoman,shedoesntseeherselfthatway
either.Isntthatkindofabit?

MarkCunningham:

Not at all. Shes afraid of introducing new things, shes afraid of being
experimental, she doesnt want her husband to look at her like a slut
unlessitscontextspecificanditsagreeduponinresults.Soasaresult
some couples end up having elaborate rules around sex most couples
develop rules but not really talk about it and theyre expressed as
expectations,ourroutine.ItslikeitsSaturdaymorningsoweregoingto
havesexinthebedroomoritsThursdaynightsoitsgoingtobesexwith
alightbulborsomethinglikethat.

MattCook:

Right.

MarkCunningham:

What you really want to get to is when you can take someone who is
extraordinarily important to you and you can still just fuck her like an
ranal[0:09:31][Phonetic]

MattCook:

But she has to see herself that way. How do you get a woman to see
herself that way? Because a man may still see that shes really hot and
hesreallypowerfullyattractedtoherbutsheseesherselfinadifferent
lightnowthemotherofthechildrenandallthoseotherthings.Howdo
youchangethatframe.

MarkCunningham:

I have an extraordinary advantage and Im a hypnotist. Im not only a

hypnotist but Im a trainer of hypnotist and Im accustomed to taking
people intothis statecalled trance.In trance you suspend disbeliefyou
arenolongermakingjudgmentslikeisthisrealornotrealisitmeornot
me. Instead whatever I guide a subject through becomes their vivid
reality.

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MarkCunningham:

Sowhatyoucandousingtranceistoguidewomenthroughexperiences.
Theygiveyouexperiencesintheirlifewherethingsturnoutdifferently.It
can be taking them back into their personal past and exploring and
revisiting or making real again some of the most erotic experiences of
theirlifeoreventakethemintoultimatetimelinesandhavethemliving
out their most incredible fantasies and having all these visibly real for
them.Whentheydothiswithyouintrance,theirmindandbodyrespond
asthoughitsactuallyhappening.Sonowtheirmindisconfrontedwitha
dilemma soon they emerge from tranceand theyre lying there sweaty,
happyandjustyouknowfeelingfantastic.Welltheirmindcaneithergo
backtobeingthemousyfrustratedhousewifeandgetthesameresults
orshecannowembracethisnewenhancedsexualitywhichafterallshe
hasjustexperiencedasthoughyouknowithappenedrightthereinthe
bedroom.Giventhatchoicea100%ofwomenaregoingtoopenupand
embracetheenhancedsexuality.

MattCook:

Really?Thatsextraordinary.

MarkCunningham:

Yeah.

MattCook:

Its extraordinary. So do you believe I mean I would say youd probably

know this, do women have does an individual woman have like a co

fantasythatifyoukindofgethertotellyouaboutitoryougethertolive
through this in her mind that will unlock her sexuality. Is there such a
thing?
MarkCunningham:

Yeah.ItissopoliticallyincorrectthatIliketorefertoitasthelasttaboo
andthatissurrenderingcompletecontroltoaman.

MattCook:

ThatstrueforIwouldsaywouldyousayformostwomen?

MarkCunningham:

Id say its universal. Okay. Its universal not only within our culture but
IvetravelledallovertheworldandIvefoundthatitworksanywhereI
go. Now there are some [0:12:28] [Inaudible] okay. The woman has to
trust the man to an extent that he is worthy of surrendering to. Right?
Nowthiscouldcomeacrossasgivenanupforabadboyorsomeoneyou
loveandtrustorsomeonewhoismoreofanauthorityfigureormoreof
ateacherfigure.Therearealotofdifferentpathwaystothatbutthere
hastobethatleveloftrustsufficientthatsheknowsshesgoingtocome
outthesameorbetterontheothersideoftheexperience.

Oncetheygetatasteofwhatitisliketosurrendercontrolandtobeled
andtoknowthattheyregoingtobeledonlyintoextraordinarypositive
circumstancesthenyeahImeanitstheultimateaphrodisiacImeanitis
the ultimate positive addiction. I mean even women who you would
suspectweretotallyagainstthisoncetheygetatasteofittheygoyeahI
wantmoreofthat.

MattCook:

Iseebecauseitsjustisacorethingitgoestothatveryprimitivepartof
thebrainandeventhoughthemindmightnotembraceittheprimitive
partofthatbraindoes.

MarkCunningham:

Right and the most common response I get or I would ask them to say
howwasthattheysaythatitmakesthemfeelmorefeminineandmore
womanly.

MattCook:

Sodoyoufindisamanisitagoodideaforamantogethiswomantotry
totellhimhercorefantasyoryouknowmasturbationfantasyistherea
relationship?

MarkCunningham:

Goodcommunicationisalwaysessentialandgoodcommunicationisnot
justepisodicitshouldbehappeningallthetime.Itssomethingyouneed
tobeworkingonallthetimebecauseofcourseyouandshearechanging

constantly. Its also true that anything that you get back from her as a
consciousresponseisalreadybeeneditedbyhersubconsciousmindand
so you may be getting what she considers to be a correct or allowable
responseeventotheextentofwhatshewillallowherselftoadmit.

Now thats different from hypnotizing or taking into trance and leading
her through a variety of fantasies. For example I very frequently work
withwomenandwhenIworkwithwomenIveryfrequentlybroachthe
ideaofthreesomesandplayingwithgirls.

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MarkCunningham:

Most American women will just say no Im not into that Im not I dont
want to talk about it off the table and yet in trance they have an
extraordinarygoodtime.Nowthatdoesntmeanthattheyregoingtogo
outandstartpickingupgirlswithyou,itdoesmeanthattheyregoingto
bemuchmoreopenandmuchmorefreeandmuchmorecommunicative
aboutthatwhichtheyenjoyorneedintheirlife,becauseafterallyouve
justledthemintosomethingthatwasverynaughtyandverypleasurable
andtheynowknowyouarethekindofpersontheycansharetheirtrue
fantasieswith.

MattCook:

Isee.Sodoyouhavetroublewithwomenbecauseatthebeginninghow
doyouovercometheresistancetheyhavetofantasythatissortoflike
there must be something wrong with it, it could be real you know as
opposedtoitsjustfantasy.

MarkCunningham:

Well again hypnosis is a widely misunderstood phenomenon within

trance they have their naval defense systems but they cannot activate
thembecausetheyrehavingsuchagoodtime.Oneofthesideeffectsof
tranceisthebodyrelaxescompletelyandyoufeelextraordinarilygood.
You feel like youre in the grip of the most pleasant daydream youve
everhad.Sopeopletendtogoalongandarereadytogetalonghowto
keep the experience going. So they will not usually object in trance to
thingsthattheywouldhavedefensesagainstintheirconsciouslife.

MattCook:

Okay.Soyoursortofmythicinsistsofbringingwomenthroughsomeof
thissortofcorefantasies.Isthatwhatweretalkingabout?

MarkCunningham:

Yeah.IvegotabasicallyaprocessIteachthatstartswithteachingthem
howtogointotranceandhowtoenjoythissensation,howtogointoa

trance easily to trust being taken into trance. Thats followed by a

processwherewecleanthenegativityoutoftheirpastandthisisoneof
the big things I brought out of my therapy practice is you dont really
needtogobackanddealwithindividualissues.Imeanmygodthebest
thingaboutthepastisthatitsover.Youknowyoushouldnevertryjust
to relive you past tremors but there are very simple techniques that
without even referencing specific events they still have a negative
memoryabout.

You can absolutely let go of that negativity so you can remember your
past clearly and not feel bad about it. You remember the things youve
learnedlikeinmycaseyouknowitsprobablynotwiseformetomarrya
redheadbutyoudontfeelthenegativechargeanymore.Itgivesyoua
tremendousburstofenergyasaresultandanewsenseoffreedomand
optimism. From there we teach a woman how to broaden her
imagination and all my students learn how to begin to construct and
describeandmakerealverysensoryrichimaginedenvironmentsthatnot
necessarilysexually.Wedogointosensualityandteachingawomanhow
to open up to a full expression of emotion and sensuality so she can
becomefullyresponsive.

AtthatpointyoucanwellImeanonceyouvelearnhowtoexperience
pleasure and to associate pleasure with doing the right thing which is
largelywhatyoutellhertodothenofcourseyoucanbegintostraighten
outalltheareasofherlife.Herprofessionallife,herfamilylifeaswellas
playingandexploringwithhersexuality.

MattCook:

Wellthisisascaryprepositionbecauseitsortofseemstomethatyoure
almostmakingthemanintheroleofhertherapistinasense.Istherea
wayaroundthatorImIgettingthiswrong?

MarkCunningham:

No. if you can just not do therapy you know and I know [0:18:59]
[Inaudible] like were playing some hunger game here but let me give
youanexample,everymanwhohasawomanhecaresaboutwillexhibit
the type of behavior that most women get really irritated at which is
once she starts talking about a problem in her life or like my mother
calledandormybossissuchanidiothewantsmetodothis.Mentryto
jumpinandsolvetheproblem.

MattCook:

Right.

MarkCunningham:

Itdriveswomennuts.

MattCook:

YeahIvelearnedthatthatsnottherighttheyreallywant.Theyitseems
liketheyjustwantempathyandsomeonetolistenIvelearnedthat.

MarkCunningham:

Yeah its easier to understand hard to do but the thing is what the end
goal that man has is they really want their woman to do better. They
wanthertofeelbetter,theywanthertohaveletherhaveabetterlife
itslikehoneyjustletmejumpinandtakecareofthisforyou.Wellthe
thingisifyoustarttoexplorethesescenariosintrance,letssaydifficulty
keepingandeventemperaroundyourmother.Okay?Thenwhatyoucan
doishaveherimagineintranceinteractingwithhermotherbutyoure
forcinghertotakeadeepbreathetorealizethathermotherisacomplex
beingandshesoperatingoffofherunderstandingandheremotionsits
reallynotpersonal.

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MarkCunningham:

Shesjustworkingoutofherprogramandtoopenupandrememberto
loveherforwhosheiswhilekeepingherarmslengthanddontlether
slime you with her emotional problems. As you describe all these and
your woman experiences it she realizes she can do this in real life and
that will or tend to become her default response in real life from that
pointon.Nowthatsnotdoingtherapythatsjustbeingsupportiveand
being a stand up guy for your woman only using very modern and very
effectivetoolsinordertogetthesamegoal.

MattCook:

So how would that work specifically with that example? Lets say a
woman has a boss she cant stand and every night she comes home,
frustrated, upset it interferes with her sex life and everything else
becauseshesjustangryaboutitanddoesntthinkshecandoanything
aboutit.Sowhatisamantheprocessforamanlooklikeinyourmind
ideally?

MarkCunningham:

Well I just did this with a woman who came through my project. She
workedasthepersonalassistanttotheCEOofabigmarketingcompany
and the guy was just a dick. I mean theres no other way to explain it I
mean hes an idiot constantly making her life hell. So when I started
leading her through taking her into trance, teaching her how to relax,
howtoenjoybeingledbymethenIwouldwalkherthroughthesedaily
scenariosandIdidtwothings.SoonewasIhadherimaginethatevery

time he came out and just started going off on her that she had well I
tried a couple of different things. I tried to imagine she had a bubble
around her and so all of his energy, his angry energy would splatter on
thisbubblejustlikeitbugsonawindshield.Soshecouldstillhearhim,
could still understand him but he just couldnt impress her hot buttons
anymoreshewasntgoingtogivehimthatkindofpower.

AtonepointIhadherimaginebecauseImeanrememberwereintrance
where nothing is impossible so I changed his head into a fish head so
whilehewasgoingoffonherwhatshesawwashisvoicecomingoutof
hisfishheadtothesceneandkindofgaping.Itwasfunnyforherandit
diffused the situation for her but probably the things that I did to help
hermostwasIhadherkeepinmindwhathergoalswereinherlife,for
who she wanted to be and what she wanted to do with her life. To
measure everyday Im I getting closer to that, is that neutral or Im I
gettingfurtherfromthat.Whatsheendedupdoingwasactuallygetting
thecouragetochangingjobsandshesnowinajobthatisactuallymuch
better for you emotionally and shes advancing professionally further
thansheeverthoughtpossible.

MattCook:

So what would a man do whos listening this whos got a wife in that
situation or a girlfriend in that situation. What can a man do as a take
away from what youve just described? Because youre a professional
youve had thousands of hours of this what about a man whos just
listeningtothiswhoyouknowistheresomethingthatyoucouldgiveus
orwouldbealittlebitcookbookrecipeforthepeoplewhovenotbeen
inthekitchenverymuch.

MarkCunningham:

Well the answer is and you know when you call me and say lets chatI
really didnt intend to do anything sielby[0:23:51] [Phonetic] but I do
teach how to do this and its extraordinarily simple to learn it. I mean I
cantakejustagenericguyoffthestreetandhavehimfunctioningata
professional level as a hypnotist two or three days. So Ive done it
thousandsoftimes.SoIveactuallyhadmaterialsthatteachyouthecore
techniques,howdoyoutakesomeoneintotrancewhatdoyousayordo
in what sequence. If this happens, what do you do and then lead them
step by step through all the core techniques necessary to help your
woman to guide your woman to train your woman to be a person. My
goal is what I call becoming fully human. You ought to be able to have

emotions not letting your emotions controlling you and so we teach

people how to have a full range of emotional and structural responses
andtotakecontroloftheirownlife.

NowpartofthatcourseisteachingthemtobewidelyorgasmicbecauseI
foundthatyoucaneitherbeneuroticororgasmicbutyoucantbeboth.
Alrightandgivenachoicemostpeoplechooseorgasmic.Iftheychoose
neuroticyoushouldbesayingcheckplease.

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MattCook:

NeuroticwithanNbythewaynotwithanE.

MarkCunningham:

Thats right. Neurotic and orgasmic is kind of the whole [0:25:12]

[Inaudible]. Yeah so you can learn and its a mistake I mean I show
everybody I show people an incredible amount of me working with a
broadvarietyofwomenandwedothisonvideobecauseIwanttoprove
thatitworkswithallwomenfromallbackgroundsandallstagesoflife.
So we have women ranging from 18 to 49 you know single party girls,
mums,professionalworkersImeantheresandpeoplefromalloverthe
world.Imeanitworksoneverybodyandsoyougetachancetoseeme
workingbutitsfromthestatetotrytolookatmyworkandgowowIm
goingtobejustlikehimbecauselikeyousayImfurtherdowntheroad.
ItsnotthatImextraordinaryitsjustthatIvegotalotofpracticedoing
this.Soand.

MattCook:

YeahsoinawaylikeImthinkingbecauseIdreallyliketoknowlikesome
tips here lets say like in my relationship. How I can help my wife in a
positivewaywithoutbeingdomineeringorcontrollinginawaythatsnot
very nice? I can see myself doing it as an amateur but Im not even a
talentedamateurwhereyouknowsothatsImwonderinghow?

MarkCunningham:

YouneedtoworkonyourselfimageMatt.

MattCook:

ItsactuallyitsprobablybetterthanImmakingitouttobe.Yeahsohow
does this you know how does a man whos like not reallyskilled in this
andyouknowinamatterofafewdaysorwithvideosrequiresthatkind
of knowledge without all that practice. So Im having a different hoity
withthatpart.

MarkCunningham:

Becausethefirststepisextraordinarilysimple.Imeantherootofwhat
youwantyourwomantofeelifyouwanthertofeelrelaxed.Okay?Well
peoplearetensedwhentheyreoffbalancetheyrenotinagoodplace
certainlycantmoveforwardalltheirenergyisgoingtoadefensivemode
oftryingtostayuprightandlimitingdamage.Sooneofthefirstexercises
Iteachandonethatsabsolutelyirresistibleisteachingsomeonetorelax
oncommand.Nowformodernpeople,ifyoucanpictureletssayIwas
holding my hand up to my nose okay and Im saying this is my normal
pinching[0:27:35][Phonetic] level my right from my nostrils okay. Then
maybe Im having a great and its my tension level only goes up to my
chinandImthinkingImhavingafreakinggreatday.

Wellnoyourenot.Youstillyouknowuptoyourchininabsolutestress.
What I like to do is teach people how to actually relax just relax. I said
twothingsoneisitmakesthemmuchmorecapableofanythingelsein
their life but also theres something called context anchoring. Its a
technicaltermbutitsaverysimpleconceptandthatis.

MattCook:

Whatwasthattermagain?Imissedit.

MarkCunningham:

Itscontextanchoring.

MattCook:

Okay.

MarkCunningham:

What it means is when you teach somebody something they not only
remember the lesson but they also build into those good feelings the
memoryofwhotaughtittothem.Okay?Sowhenyouteachsomeoneto
relax,okaywhenyouteachsomeonetopayattentionandbeopentoyou
soyoucanjustwalkuptoyourwomanandgoBabyrelax.Justrelaxtake
adeepbreathewellgetthroughthis.Theactofyoudoingthat,saying
thatwiththattoneofvoiceandhermemoryofhowthishasworkedin
thepastnotonlywillsherelaxcalmeddownwhichbelievememenwill
pay you a huge amount of money just to learn how to do this and but
alsoyourepullingthatlinkbetweenthetwoofyou.Sheknowsthatshe
cannowturntoyouintimesofstressandyoullmakeherfeelbetter.

MattCook:

I think thats what women really want from men and you know in a
different way men want from women but Ill talk about it from the
womanpointofview.Theywanttofeelthatthemanisthatsortoftheir
rockandtheycanputhisarmsaroundherandmakeeverythingsafeand
wonderful.Ithinkwomenwantthatfrommen.

MarkCunningham:

Absolutely.Womenhavetoldmetimeandtimeagaininfactoneofmy
studentsIthinkwentreallywellisthatIwantmymantobetherockthat
I ordered around she wants to have the freedom to have the full
emotional expression and just to [0:29:50] [Inaudible] wild cycle of
emotions that women go through. She wants to feel enjoyed being a
totallyemotionalwomanbutsheneedstoknowthatshesgotthatman
inherlifethatwhenyouknowthechipsaredownthatshecancounton
himtobetheman.

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MattCook:

Sothefirststepyouteachpeopleandthisiseasyyouresayingitseasy
to learn in your system you teach men to help a woman really relax.
Thatslikethemostfundamentalthingthatyouteachatthebeginning.

MarkCunningham:

Yeah because its got so many things because now I get the immediate
gratifying benefit but also it will test whether she is willing to accept
suggestions and follow commands even for something as simple as
relaxing,right?Imeanshesnotgoingtotrustyouonthatthentheres
probably shes not going to take your word on anything else either.
Somethingisextraordinaryasmakingactualidentitychanges.

MattCook:

Isee.

MarkCunningham:

Whodoesntwanttobetheanchorforrelaxationandhappiness?

MattCook:

Right.Soisthereanotherlikesortofeasythingtodoathomethatyou
teach men that we could kind of get our arms around here in this
interview?

MarkCunningham:

Yeah. Its again it depends on you dont have to pick on a certain mind
stick.Illprobablybecomfortablewithpowerandthatisyouhavetoget
comfortable with the idea that you are going to make suggestions or
youregoingtotellhertodosomethingthatyouknowisextraordinarily
goodforherandyouexpectshesgoingtofollowalongandyoullaccept
responsibility for being that strong in your relationship. Now if youre
goingtodothatwhichiskindofreallytellingaguytomanup,right?

MattCook:

Yes.

MarkCunningham:

Then you can go a little bit further and learn how to tell her that shes
beautifulandhaveherunderstanditandfeelit.Okay?Tellherthatshes

smartandstrong.Nowifyousaythisandyoubelieveitabsolutelyevenif
youjustbelieveitinamomentlongenoughtomakeittrueforherthen
its an extraordinary gift that you can give to her. Youre beginning to
buildacycleofshelistenstowhatyouresaying,sheopenshermindshe
considers it shes goes okay well you know Ill do this and see how see
how it turns out it feels really good. That is the core of what I call
conditioning with pleasure. Every time youre moving your hand in
positive direction and something she wants to interpret as positive
because I heard you earlier Matt youre talking about how you didnt
wanttoberealdominantandoverbearing.

Youdonthavetobeyouhavetobestrongandmasculinebecausethats
womencravebutifyouconstantlyleadherintothingsthatmakeherfeel
reallygoodthenshesgoingtobecomemoreopenandtrustingandyou
cantakeitanywayyouwant.

MattCook:

Its a cycle of increasing comfort really for her isnt it? Its actually an
amazinggiftthatyoucouldgiveyourwoman.

MarkCunningham:

Exactlyright.Okayyouareopeningupthisincredibleworldtoherwhere
she is the star, she receives all the benefits and [0:33:12] [Inaudible]
some guys who come to me and then go, Matt it looks like your life
youre creating slaves because these women are just you know want
themtodoanythingyoutellthemtodobutallyoudoismakethemfeel
good. I go Yeah. If you have if you develop extraordinary influence
overthewomaninyourlife,whatelsewouldyouwantustodoexcept
makeherfeelincrediblygood.

MattCook:

Yeah I guess that Im starting to see this because it feels still a little
manipulativeandImtryingtogetaroundthat.Howdoyougetaround
that?

MarkCunningham:

ifyoulookupthewordmanipulate,youllfindwhatitsaysitstomove
with intention. Okay? It is not a negative thing obviously Ive learned
across this a lot so I actually looked the word up but the thing is to be
manipulativeisthesameitslikeaskilledcarpenterismanipulativeofhis
tools and are to build something extraordinary. Alright? In my former
careerasatherapistIwasextremelymanipulativeinhelpingpeoplelead
rich flow positive lives. If you are the kind of person who ought to be
trusted if you are the man who has good intent then when you

manipulatesomeoneintomakingthemfeelbetterandhowtoleadtheir
lives better. To have less stress, less problem, more joy more ecstasy I
dontthinktheressomethingyouneedtogetaround.
MattCook:

YeahIseewhatyouresaying.Howdoesamangetconfidentenoughto
acceptthisresponsibilityifhesnotrightnow?

MarkCunningham:

Practice. Okay. You can run across the most extraordinary life teaching
andyoureaditandyougoholycrapthisjustopensupawholelifefor
mebutaslongasyourejustsittingthereandlazyboynothingisgoingto
happen.Right?

[0:35:07]
MarkCunningham: I mean you can become a Master of university or you can become a
Masteroflazyboy.Youvegottodecidewhatyouwanttogoandwhich
meansyouneedtogetoutandinteractwithrealpeopleasthoughyou
arethisperson.Nowbyextraordinarygoodchancethevastmajorityof
people dont know you and dont care which means that you can walk
out the door and begin to act as though you were someone and
everybodyelsejustgoesThatswhoMattis,right?soyoucanstartout
bydoingverysimplethings.

Ill give you a very good example, I mean we were recording this on
ValentinesdayandsoofcoursebeingawelltrainedhusbandIwasout
attheWalMartshopping9:00pmlastnightgettingavalentinescardbut
theplacewasfullofpeopleallbuyingcardsandtherewasthislittlegirl
whowasshewasonthefloorshehadasnoopydollandshewascryinga
longshewaswoofing.SoIlookedatherandIsaid,Areyouadoggyon
thefloor?Shelooksatmeandgoes,Impretending.Sopeoplearound
mestarttolaughandsoIwaschattingwithalittleagirlandthenIturn
to the woman next to me and I say, Do you see a doggy? She starts
talking about her little kids like to play doggy and she put down a food
dishandwaterdishforherandherteenagedaughterwhowasturningto
beembarrassedasallhellandsoIturnedtotheteenager.Isaid,Hey.I
said,Youwerentoneofthosedoggieswereyou?shestartedtolaugh
and all over a sudden I was talking with six people around and I was
relaxedIwasleadingtheconversation.

Eventhoughweweretalkingaboutsomethingsilly,everybodythereleft
feeling much better than when they came in. Thats what Im talking

about using direct influence and expression of who you are being
confident,thatyoucanreachoutandmakeadifferenceinpeopleslives
anditallturnedoutgreat.Thewayyoudothatinthatspecificexampleis
youstarttalkingtoeveryoneyourearound.Justfindsomethingtosay,
something is going on something theyre wearing, something youre
thinkingwhateveryoudsayitasyougetthedesiredresponse.Great.If
yougetaresponseisitwhatyouwantedornottobelessthanpositive
okay just laugh but thats not it but you need to get engaged with life.
You need to get engaged with this idea that you yourself can make a
difference.Atthatpointitslargelyachoicewhatkindofadifferencewill
Imake.
MattCook:

WellonethingthatIthinkishelpfulhereisjustinblurtingoutwhatson
yourmindwithoutanalysisbecauseIthinkthattoomanypeopleintheir
headstheyanalyzeandtheyjustdontgetitoutthereandonceyoujust
getitoutthereandyoujustblurtoutwhatsonyourminditgetseasier
andeasierandyourealizethatpeopleareactuallyengagedwithyouand
youstopbeingsoselfconsciousandyoustarttoreallygettingpeopleto
feelreallygoodaboutwhatyouresaying.Doyouagreewiththat?

MarkCunningham: IagreeabsolutelybecauseIthinkthefearofstayingordoingsomething
stupidisoneofthemostparalyticfearsyoucanpossiblyencounter.The
factiseverybodyaroundyouabsolutelynormalandIvebeenblessedin
mylifebymeetingextraordinarypeople.PeoplelikeRichardBransonor
LenoxPolon[0:38:23][Phonetic]theguywhodiscoveredvitaminCandit
turns out I can laugh and joke with these guys because they are
extraordinary people but they are still normal people at heart. I talk to
singleguysallthetimeaboutwhatwhenyouseesomeonewhoyoufind
extraordinaryattractivewalkupandtalktoherbecauseshesagirl.She
wantssomedudetotalktoher.Imeanitsincredibleifyoujustguysget
sick of advice just beyourself okaybecause they think that well theres
somethingwrongwithme.YouknowifIwasjustmyselfImgettingthis
resolved whether at the end of the day obviously theres something
wrongwithme.

Its completely the wrong track the advice is correct, stop censoring
yourself,interactwithpeoplearoundyouifnothingelseyouregoingfind
out that everyone else is plagued with doubts and fears and foolish

mistakes.Onceyoustartinteractingwithpeopleyoustartthinkingholy
crapImaybesmarterthanallthesepeople.
MattCook:

Yeahjustdontanalyzejustdontdothat.Justblurtitoutthereandyou
know youll find extraordinary results because one thing you said, you
impliedbutdidntsaybutisthatifyourepretendingtobeconfident,if
yougooutintheworldlikeimaginingyoureconfidentinyourownmind
justimaginingitevenifyoudontfeellikethecoreyouarepeoplewont
knowthedifferenceandtheyllstartrespondingtoyourpretendingthat
youreconfidentandyoullbecomemoreconfident.

MarkCunningham:

Right. Theres this thing called charisma and everybody knows how to
recognize it. Most people dont know how to generate it on command
butIcantellyouthemastersesotericsecretofcharismawhichistheres
nothingmorethaninsaneselfconfidence.Extraordinaryselfconfidence
and people are drawn to it like theyre drawn to the light like theyre
drawntoaflame.

[0:40:10]
MarkCunningham:

Sosimplygoingoutandpracticingaroundstrangersbyactingasthough
you do like yourself that youre confident that you do have interesting
thingsgoingonandinterestingthingstosay.Peoplewillrespondtoyou
thatway.

MattCook:

So give us you know somebody listening to this now and want to hear
about your, I know that the videos youve done are extraordinary just
extraordinary but give us something that we can do guys listening this
goeshomeatnight.Istheresomethinghecandotonightwithhiswifeor
hisgirlfriendthatwillreallyhelptherelationshipalot?

MarkCunningham:

Yeah.Iwouldsayitsaverysimpleprocessandwearehearyouvegotto
thinkaboutholycrapthisisprobablywhatIshouldhavebeendoingall
along. That is when you talk to her talk to her as though you love her.
Dontdotransactions okay,dont bringupwhathappenedlastweekor
letgooftheresentmentorangeryoumaybecarryingaroundbecauseof
everythingthatshappeneduptillnow.Insteadlookatherasawoman,
rememberwhychoseher,speaktoherasthoughyouloveher.Nowyou
know its [0:41:26] [Inaudible] you might as well change while thinking
aboutthisbecauseIliketothinkusingmyvoicewellasahypnotistand
my voice as my tool. I like to think of my voice as a caress as a touch.

Whenyoureusingphysicaltouch,touchherasthoughyourepettyher.
Touchherasthoughyourtouchisgoingtobringextraordinarypleasure
andsousingthatdeafthatgentletouch.

The touch as though just touching allows emotion to flow from you to
her, okay? Listen to what shes saying okay and listen to what she is
communicatingwhenshessayingthat.Whenshesrunningthroughher
letting in about what happened during her day shes really not talking
about discrete man shes talking about the chain of emotions she went
through and what these things that happenedhow they made her feel.
Payattentiontothatandrespondtothat.Okayandletgoofyourquest
for the result. Stop thinking oh my god you know Im going to do this
threestepprocessandshesgoingtobecomemyidealloverattheendof
it.InsteadjustgoaheadandrelaxandthinkyouknowwhatImjustgoing
to do something right now to make her feel good and then see what
happens.

MattCook:

Thatssoamazing.

MarkCunningham:

WellyouknowwhatIvebeenmarriedfor16yearsandgivenwhatIdo
people are kind of fully amazed that Im married because I run around
training women [0:43:00] [Phonetic] orgasmic but my wife and I have
thisdealwhereeverydaywegetupandwedecidetobeinlovewitheach
other,okay.Wedoitasaconsciouschoiceandsowestarttothink,feel
anddoallofthosethingsthatweshoulddotomakesurethatourlove
remains and grows stronger and as a result weve got a rock solid
marriage and its not because were ideally matched were more like a
battling biggersons[0:43:25] [Phonetic]. So we know to get what we
wantwehavetoactuallydothings,wehavetothinkthings,wehaveto
feelthingsandwehavetochoose.

MattCook:

Sodoyoudothetrancestuffwithyourwife?

MarkCunningham:

Yeah.Shelovesitandactuallysheistotallydownwithmyworkingwith
this extraordinary ____ level of women. I mean she watches videos
wherethesewomenaretotallyenthralledwithmeImeanbeggingtobe
mywomansayingthattheybelongtomeandallandshelaughsbecause
shegetstobethewomanthatIchosetobemarriedto.Soyeahsheloves
beinghypnotizedandshethinksitsreallyhelpedheroutinherlifeandit
has. I havent made any extraordinary changes in her because I have a

goodsensetopicksomebodywhoisingoodshapetobeginwithbutshe
thinksImdoingGodswork.
MattCook:

This is really helpful this that youve given us a little bit of bit of an
instructionlittlerecipewecandorightaway.IdsaythekeytoIvebeen
married over 25years very happily married and I think the key to our
relationshipisthatwegetupinthemorningandatnightwespendalot
oftimeyouknowsnugglingtogether.Wehavealotofsexandwealso
havealotofjustyouknowsnugglingandphysicaltouchallthetime.We
do it I dont want to say consciously like its a big chore but basically
every morning and every night and then sometimes in between. So I
think thats extraordinarily helpful and the sciences behind that as well
showingthatitbuildsupthehormonesoxytocinandreallygetsyoumore
andmoreinlovewithyourpartnerandshewithme.

[0:45:13]
MarkCunningham:

Well Matt that makes you a tremendously manipulative kind of guy,

doesntit?

MattCook:

Yeah.Exactlyitsallintentional.SometimesItellherhowIfeelabouther
and she doesnt really get it sometimes because she doesnt and you
knowitsbecauseIhavetheseextraordinarydepthsoffeelingsforher.It
reallyisbecauseofthisthatitsanamazingthingitslikeneurochemistry
brainchemistry.

MarkCunningham:

Yeah.

MattCook:

Totallyworks.Youknow.

MarkCunningham:

If you are starting out to make sure that she is flooded with happy
chemicals and you top it off everyday I think its like shes never going
anywhere.Imeanshesnotgoingtocheatshesnotgoingtobetempted
shes going to be coming home at night because shes got something
extraordinaryandsheknowswhoisthe[0:46:03][Inaudible].

MattCook:

Yeahandtheinterestingthingisformenwhohaveerectileproblemsor
prematureejaculationproblems.Letmeaskyouaquestionherebecause
youve talked to so many women. Have you worked with women who
havemenwhohadtheseproblems?

MarkCunningham:

Yes a lot. As you know there are some physiological cases of ED but
theyre really rare compared to [0:46:27] [Inaudible] rate and then
everythingelseisjustamatterofmaleconfidence.

MattCook:

Right. Yeah so how did you know can you think of one of those cases
whereitresolveditselfforyouknowjustcanyouthinkofanexampleyou
couldtellusastory?

MarkCunningham:

Well Ill give you two examples. One is specific and one is a broader
implication.Thespecificonewasayoungwomanwhocameintobepart
ofmyprojectandshewasshehadbeenverysexuallyadventurous,she
wasalreadyveryresponsiveandsoshesawanadthatwewerelooking
for women that have orgasms hypnotically on camera. She came in
through [0:47:06] [Inaudible] size but as we started doing the sessions
andofcoursesherespondedverywellthetechnique.Shetoldmeabout
herboyfriendwhoshehopedwastheonekindofthoughtwastheone
but he had a real problem. He thought that he had hooked a girlfriend
that was way out of his league and as a result he was nervous all the
time.

Eitherhewasnervousaboutherpasthewasnervousaboutherprevious
experience what her expectations might be or maybe some other guy
who is going to come in and sweep her off her feet and take her away
andsoofcoursehewasgettingveryinsecurecontributedtopremature
ejaculation which of course didnt make things better in any stress
imaginationbecausehewasworriedaboutohmygodImnotsatisfying
mygirlorofcourse[0:47:51][Inaudible]someoneelse.

MattCook:

Right.

MarkCunningham:

SowhenItaughtherhowtobefullyorgasmichowtohaveincrediblyrich
fullbodyorgasmsoncommandbecauseitisamalephenomenonyoucan
teachevencougar.InhercaseItaughtheraphrasethatwheneverIsaid
orwheneveramanthatshechosesaidthisphraseshedlookatmelike
going to a whole body orgasm. So went home all excited and she goes
[0:48:21][Phonetic]hereswhatIwantyoutodo.ShesaidIwantyouto
[0:48:26] [Inaudible] when you tell me this phrase Im going to have a
huge orgasm. He was like, Yeah right. So she dragged him off to bed
and theyrefooling around and he says hes going to try it out. He says
thephrasesheimmediatelygoestofullorgasm.Theyrenotevenhaving

intercourseatthispoint.HeslikeHolycrap.Okaysohejumpsinthe
saddle, they start going at it and hes just banging away this particular
phraselikehesgotanewtoy.

He calmed down eventually but what he discovered was that when he

wasabletosimply,reliably,honestly,bringhiswomantoorgasmandto
please her and satisfy her in a way that she loved to experiencing, his
confidence went right through the roof and as a result his premature
ejaculationjustdisappeared.Okay?

MattCook:

Itsagreatstory.

MarkCunningham:

Nowtheyeah.ImeanitslikethisiswhyImeanIdontreallyneedthe
money I mean I do this because of the love of the work. I mean the
stories people tell me are just incredible but the larger example is that
womenwanttheirmentobehappybeingmen.Womenarenotnearlyas
judgmental as men think they are. Women are willing to put up with a
lot,okay?ImeanIvehadwomenImeanImcarrying30extrapoundsI
have women you know reach out tap my belly and tell me I think its
cute. Alright? They arewilling to put up with the incredible amounts of
stuffifyouarehelpingthemtofeelthewaytheyneedtofeel.Sowhen
theyarewithamanwhohassomekindofsexualchallenge.

[0:50:05]
MattCook:

Heather?

Heather:

Ilosthimtoo.

MattCook:

Okay.

MarkCunningham:

Right.Youknowhey.

Heather:

Thereweare.

MattCook:

Yeah.Goaheadyeah.

MarkCunningham:

OkayIwasjustsayingwomenarenotlookingforallthewaytorejecta
guy they are looking for ways to how do I help my guy do better and
make the relationship go better. Thats why shes with him in the first
placeandsowhenwomendiscoverthattheycanbecomeorgasmicreally
easily they are like a kid with a new toy and giving this power to their
powertotheirmantheyseeitasyeahitsapowertotheirorgasmsand

who doesnt want it that but more than that its a pathway to richer,
fullercommunicationandattachmentinarelationship.Soitworks well
foreverybody.
MattCook:

Okay.OnemoreyeahHeatherIwantedtoaskyouyouvebeenveryquiet
throughthiswholepresentation.

MarkCunningham:

Yesshehas.

MattCook:

I wanted to know what your opinion is of this you know. One of the
femalepersuasionandwhenyouhearallthisyouknowMarkstartedout
by saying women in general really want to surrender control to a man
thatthatsuniversal.Hestalkedaboutthiswholethingaboutthistrance
stateabouttheroleofamanwithawoman.Whatdoyouthinkaboutall
this?

HeatherHallman:

Well I have to say in my life Im very lucky to have a man who is my

emotional rock like and so to speak he so I would say I agree the most
partatleastIreallydo.IagreeIamIthinkwhenyouhaveamanwhos
reallystronglikethisandwonderfulandmineisinnowaywhatIwould
calllikewhatyouresayinglikepushyordomineeringoranythinglikebut
hes a tremendously masculine and tremendously strong and it really
makesmylifewonderful.Soto[0:52:28][Inaudible]experienceIdhave
tosayIagree.

MattCook:

So you feel its a pretty positive thing that weve been learning about
fromMark.Itsaverypositivethingfromawomanspointofviewitsnot
youknowinmanyways.

HeatherHallman:

Right. Yes as long as the guy is coming at it from a point of view of

supportingandhelpinghiswomaninsteadofcontrollingandjustbeinga
dickheadthenyesIthinkitsverypositive.

MarkCunningham:

I think that the guys who set out to be very controlling the way youre
explainingitareactuallyveryweakandthatswhytheyredoingit.

HeatherHallman:

Right.

MarkCunningham:

IsuspectthatthemaninyourlifeismoreofwhatIcallabigdogandif
youve ever been around really large dogs you find that theyre not
aggressive and quite huffing youll have little kids treating him like the
worldsbiggestfleshtoy.Theyregoingalloverhimandpullinghisears

thedogsnotdoingtodoanything.Why?Becausetheyrebigdogsthey
dontneedtoexpressthemselvesthatwayortheyrenotrunningaround
trying to terrorize the neighborhood because after all they are the big
dog.
HeatherHallman:

Right.

MarkCunningham:

Whatmenfindisthattheycanhavetremendousinfluenceanddoitin
ways that are very beneficial they could be used actually, surprisingly
sparingly. Alright? Because theres no actual joy for a real man in
dominated putting down holding down some other person rather the
pleasure comes from opening them up stirring them new possibilities,
supportingthemmakingthemfeelwonderfulinreapingthebenefitsof
thistremendouslygratefulpersonwhosturningaroundandwhoisnow
tryingtogivethesamelevelaffectionandgratificationbacktoyou.

HeatherHallman:

Right,Iwouldagreewiththatcompletely,yeah.Hecertainlyis.

MattCook:

Sowhatis,weonlyhaveaminuteofyouleft,Idliketoknowifwewere
interested, I think were going to put a link here, on the screen here
which will be below the video were doing. What are the next steps
somebody wants to take if theyre really interested in getting into this
andtheywanttogetthesevideostostartdoingthisthing?

MarkCunningham:

Youcanactuallywetryandgivealotofinformationrightupfrontandso
ifyoufollowthelinkwhatyouregoingtodoisyouregoingtocometo
the page where the first thing you see is a video testimonial from a
woman whos been through my project, talking about what the
experiencewaslike,whatitmeantforherandhowshefeelsitsgoingto
impactherlife,whymenandwomenshouldbeinterestedinthis.

[0:55:07]
Ifyourewillingtogoaheadandgiveusyouremailaddress,thenwere
goingtosendyouaseriesofvideosincluding130minutespassionwhere
you see me working extensively with a girl and I am demonstrating in
detailexactlywhatspossibledoingmytypeoftechniqueImeanyoure
goingtoseeme,itlookslikeImjusttalkingtoherbutbecauseofhow
thebackinfluenceworksjustbytalkingtoher,youllseeherresponding
extraordinary.

Youseeherfullyorgasmiconcamera.Youllhearhertalkingaboutwhat
she wants, what she needs, what she wants me to do next. All these
thingsarejustfreesamples.MakeupyourownmindandiflikeMattfirst
started joking about this thing it all sounds very manipulative and you
think wow, this is not something men should do with women. You
probablyshouldntgoand[0:56:01][Inaudible]shockthesocksrightoff
[0:56:03][Inaudible],okay,orifyouthinkwomencantactuallyrespond
thiswaywell,thenyoureprobablynotgoingtolikemymethodbecause
weassumewomenrespondthiswaythenyoureprobablynot goingto
likemymethodbecauseweassumewomenrespondthiswayandthats
whenyoufindouthowtogetanyindividualwomanintothatpointbutif
youreinterestedyoucancomeonin.Wevegotmoneybackguarantees,
weve got everything that you possibly imagine to make sure that we
reduceyourrisk.Wemakeyoufeelgoodandjustfindoutwhatitslike
thenmakeupyourownmind.

MattCook:

Well,Ihavetosayyourmaterialsareamazinglywelldoneanditcertainly
would be good to follow the link and get their videos because youre
going to be really impressed with Marks portrayal, incredible and you
learnsomuchasyoucantelljustbythisshortinterview.Iwanttothank
yousomuchforgivingusyourgeneroustimetodayMac.

MarkCunningham:

SureMatt.Ihadfun.

MattCook:

Thankssomuch.Welltalktoyousoon.ThanksHeather.

MarkCunningham:

Byebye.

HeatherHallman:

Thankyou.

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