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the founder of modern communism call marks and just in that
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religion is the opium of the people but today we're going to find out on this
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program that gives really
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better to have intelligence with your faith
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stay with us here on the twenty one
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welcome to between the lines here little channel were glad to join us today we
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have in our studios
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the holster of the cliff show which is also saying right here on this network
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and also the author of a recent book life without limits and journey into
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intelligent faith
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heather we think about that i'm excited to have on your knees are you making us
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laugh he's smart he's funny
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that's the cutting back to you warning here a story on corn have dinner with
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them and inaccuracy assigned somebody's here to share stories because if your
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honor
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tell us about clip
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the show
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well harm that may nobody wealth dot com fathers who come from a jewish
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background and i was a seeker
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i grew up in a very
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secular
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or kinda post-modern homed
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basically never believe there which truth and we really weren't by family
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to which but not practicing jusen
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i was just always had this thing i was a seeker
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it just hit me one day and i told it on the my tv show once it hit me when they
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have pizza parlor in gainesville florida that truth had to exist
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and i was on the streets
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disproving desire for truth no matter what and
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couple years later after some remarkable extras i ended up becoming a believer
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jesus and i've been
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working for the warden some capacity or another ever since incidence of deadly
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coming from pizza to determine secular juvenile conservative protestant who
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have no idea how big of a leap it was i still don't know how final happenin
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it's still in a great fit panel but and here because
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has agreed to people you're stuck with me i was seeking truth
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this is where i wonder
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and
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i couldn't
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anything else

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without being
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grossly this honest
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with myself sort of stuff about the trip
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well i just just
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from being
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buildings a secular jew
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and inside only in in the realm of christianity and all that even after
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thirty years hudson still not even comfortable and church amount of money
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llaman ordained minister and i'm still not come from fifty so-called tried to
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people
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this was the horizontal
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okay this is the realm of a horizontal cultural i was speaking
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transcendent
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truth okay when it hit me that it existed so
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the district sentence
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is more important to me than these cultural things and i know how different
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than any exception
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from a moslem background he was a he's a believer in an advantage to be said the
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same thing so but despite all that i have to transcend all that because i was
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seeking truth
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this is where i wanna than

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boom let's go back and pizza parlor how green when you thought truth must well
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that's all i was talking about twenty years old and i just hit me in a pizza
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parlors are not the top enough time to go to the whole thing that's happened to
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be objective truth has to exist out there
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independent of making and action and still for some reason and that was like
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earth-shattering from because up until then i was very you have your true that
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you would hear truth and you will hear truth and it didn't matter they were all
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contradictory
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you know there was no are comedian point to stand above the judge and i just
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suddenly hit me
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have a psychiatrist
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filters almost the same greed
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for lack of a better chance truth happens just made despite the know what
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i wanted to know what
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no matter what meeting there was no loads wood pile it was after when he's
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he's lying about his truth yada there's a difference though
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i think if you went to the average person should be delighted to know the
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truth
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would you like to know what is the purpose of your life how did we get here
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what is the meaning of your life what happens when you die unless they're just

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too
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you know catatonic vedika
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but most people are going to say they want that's not the issue navy issues
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not do you want
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it's how
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badly
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do you wanna
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i think it is quite if we work even though i do troops have to exist i
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realize that might not be possible for me to not okay the fact that i knew it
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had to exist
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is that synonymous with me ever be able to come to know
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and all i know they'll is i thought to myself
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if it were possible for me to know what i want to know and where it led me what
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it cost me what i had to give up what i had to suffer
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if i could no truth i wanted to know what no matter what insist arafat search
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what did you do know that we're going to have fun i think this is kind of the
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ironic thing
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if you hear my story
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there was really nothing intellectual rational
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about what happened got converted for lack of a better term i'd
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believe you found the truth found the lord totally

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on experience supernatural betrays very personal
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and it was only after
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after i became a believer
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that i was able to start building
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logical rational
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philosophical
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foundation four
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my faith i don't think
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logic and reason and all that would have got me there
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and what blew my mind was
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the number of years after i became a believer i read a quote from fifty and
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eleven century church father and trust me i'm not in the church fathers
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but this one guy and so we have a phrase i wanna cold
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creed oakland intellicomp
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i believe in order that i may understand
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and i just blew my mind it is here i was
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here's a guy eleven sent you know our ten centuries before i existed was born
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the essence of my x_-rays i became a believer
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and then after it was a believer i was able to build solid rational logical
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intellectual foundation illegitimately first yeah exacting in their foundation

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you moved into examined the structure
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on what they believe look like the idea on the same that happens with everybody
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but uh...
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in my situation i became a believer first
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clearly experience subject we're unlike the people the story that you keep
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teaching
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as i have something to me is that i was your lives
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or you're a mental case
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i'd say okay
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that's a rational
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that's a fairly rational explanation
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what happen to be i don't happen to believe that true but i have a
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difference and afterward i was able to build a logical reasonable foundation
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and a much of my writing
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in the subsequent years of the twenty some folks i've written to some degree
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or another
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was based on fleshing out the logic and reason
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my face and why it's logical and reasonable and intelligent four
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me and for others to halfway we'll take a break and when we come back we'll talk
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about how you came to the position of
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wanting to established
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kind of a foundation of people who are in search of the exactly indian help
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them become aggressive audience it's a fairly intelligent
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so the console often people think
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when we talk or religion or following christ it's a faith is blinded its
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arguments emotional adjusts more fuzzy his that is something substantive so
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that element is there but that's not the whole element yells and we really need
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to talk about their cuz i know that a lot of people out there searching for
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that
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so you know if it
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faith is is a part of the critical element but on top of that we have some
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building building blocks i guess you know cindy solid stones that help us to
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really focus on who were doing i've often said i've got logical reasons for
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believing in things that take me with
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beyond watch it contains with that we will go to break stay with us you're
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