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Chase B. Wrenn
Introduction
At the end of Republic V, Plato's Socrates argues that lovers of sights and
sounds have no legitimate claims to knowledge; they have mere opinion
at best. Only philosophers those who believe in the beautiful itself
over and above the many beautiful things (for example) can have
knowledge. Famously, the argument turns on the claims that the domain
of knowledge is 'what is/ while ignorance is set over 'what is not' and
opinion is set over 'what is and is not' (476e-7a, 478c-e) Socrates applies
those claims in showing that knowledge and opinion are different powers (477c-8d) and that what lovers of sights and sounds concern themselves with (the many beautiful things, for example) both 'are' and 'are
not' (478e-9e). Lovers of sights and sounds, then, can have opinions, but
they cannot have knowledge (479e-80).
'To be' is carrying a lot of weight in these passages. Its interpretation
makes a difference both to the evaluation of the argument, and to the
assessment of Plato's view of knowledge in the Republic.1 In this paper,
For example, R.E. Allen reads 'what is' as 'what exists', and claims that this
argument 'contains one of the first statements in European philosophy of the
doctrine of degrees of being and reality' (Allen 1961:325). Gail Fine reads 'what is'
as 'what is true' and denies that Plato is committed to such a doctrine (Fine 1990).
Julia Annas agrees with Allen that Plato is committed to a doctrine of degrees of
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reality, but she does so on the basis of a reading different from his (Annas 1981). A
reading similar to Armas's leads C.D.C. Reeve to attribute a reliabilitist epistemology reminiscent of Alvin Goldman (1979) to Plato (Reeve 1988).
2 With the appeal to propositions, the distinction works in this way. The contents of
knowledge or opinion are their meanings, i.e. propositional contents, and they
belong to the realm of Fregean sense. The objects of knowledge or opinion are the
entities or states of affairs that impress themselves on the mind and generate the
states of knowing or opining. They belong to the realm of reference. Construed in
this way, the contents/objects controversy is a dispute over whether Plato offers an
mtensional or an extensional analysis of knowledge. Without recourse to propositions, Plato does not have the means to distinguish intensional from extensional
analyses.
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Where necessary, I distinguish the speakers in a passage by using '[S]' for Socrates
and '[G]' for Glaucon. All English translations are taken from the Grube and Reeve
version in Cooper (1997).
challenge. They must be able to persuade and console those who think
that they have knowledge when they really have mere opinion. Otherwise, the non-philosophers will not allow the philosophers to rule.
Arguments that only philosophers would accept, such as that of 474c-6d,
are not up to the task.4 The philosophers need a way of responding to
the connoisseurs in their own terms. If Socrates cannot provide such a
way, then the philosophers will have no way of turning back the connoisseurs' angry rush. The philosophers would thus be overpowered
and unable to make philosophy and ruling entirely coincide. Consequently, they would not be able to approximate the ideal city on earth.
The impossibility of such a city renders implausible the Republic's
main thesis: that it is better for a person to be just than to be unjust.
Suppose that it is impossible for an actual person to be appreciably just.
We know that injustice is within the scope of ordinary human capacities.
Because it is not better to do what is impossible than to do what is
possible, it would follow that it is not better to be just than to be unjust.
If the impossibility of the approximately ideal city suggests the impossibility of personal justice, then, it also suggests the falsity of the Republic's most central claim.
The impossibility of approximating the ideal city does suggest the
impossibility of personal justice, and that is why Socrates sees objections
to the possibility of the ideal city as the 'greatest wave' of criticism (472a,
473c). From 368e on, the analogy of the soul to a city informs the
Republic's structure. In the ideal city, each class knows and acquiesces in
its place, does its own work, and is ruled by the philosophical class
(428a-34d). In the just soul, each part knows and acquiesces in its place,
does its own work, and is ruled by the rational part (441c-4e). To claim
that the ideal city cannot be approximated is to claim that the philosophical class will be unable to acquire significant political power with the
approval of the city's other classes. There are four main ways in which
tha t might happen (see Books VIII and IX), and four corresponding kinds
of souls not ruled by their rational parts. If the philosophical class cannot
gain political power, then the analogy suggests that the rational part of
the soul cannot gain psychic power. Because personal justice requires
The argument of 474c-6d presupposes the existence of the beautiful itself over and
above the many beautiful things, but the connoisseurs (by definition) do not believe
in the beautiful itself.
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This is not the only possible interpretation here. Eugenio Benitez (1996) contends
that the paradox comes from the fact that philosophers must be compelled to rule.
Furthermore, the Greek word Socrates uses ('paradoxen') applies to what is genuinely paradoxical, 'unbelievable' in the sense of an unbelievably talented athlete, or
just unpopular. It is thus plausible that the claim is 'paradoxical' on many dimensions, and that that helps to explain Socrates' reluctance to answer this wave of
criticism.
It is unlikely, but not entirely impossible. Socrates escapes the bootstrapping
problem by allowing for the existence of persons with philosophical natures outside
the approximately ideal city (496a ff.) Although these people will be more philosophical than others (and therefore more just), the (approximately) full realization
of their philosophical nature requires the nurture
of the approximately ideal city.
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connoisseurs take the sensible to be; all that matters is that their minds
do not move beyond the sensible to the intelligible. Treating the connoisseurs as strict nominalists provides a natural reading, but there is textual
evidence that at least some connoisseurs pay close attention to the
features in virtue of which particular objects are beautiful. For example,
at 474d-5a Socrates gives a litany of 'terms and excuses' that a connoisseur of young boys will use to explain the beauty of a particular boy.
Although the connoisseur does not account for a boy's beauty by appeal
the beautiful itself, each boy is beautiful for a reason; he has some
sensible property that makes him beautiful. This suggests that nominalistic connoisseurs are not Socrates' only target. My interpretation of the
'argument from opposites' at 478e ff. will work whether or not any
connoisseurs actually are nominalists.
The connoisseurs are genuine lovers of learning, not just pleasureseeking epicures out for a good time. They might appear to be experts
in their fields, for they are able to tell good plays from bad, for example,
and to say something about what makes the good ones good or the bad
ones bad. As Gosling (1960:120) puts it, they seem to 'know what they
are about.' This might make them appear to have the knowledge required
to run a city well, even though they neither believe in nor have access to
the beautiful (or the just) itself, over and above the many beautiful (or
just) things. To overturn their claim to political power, and to turn back
their angry rush, Socrates must argue from premises that such people
already accept.
Socrates begins his case against the connoisseurs with the following
short argument (476e-7a):
(1) He who knows knows something rather than nothing.
(2) What he who knows knows is something that is rather than
something that is not}3
(3) Therefore, what is completely is completely knowable and what
is in no way is in every way unknowable.
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There are two related puzzles in this passage. The first is how best to
interpret 'to be' in such claims as 'he who knows knows something that
is', and the solution of this puzzle guides the interpretation of the rest of
Republic V. The second puzzle pertains to the inference from (1) and (2)
to (3). On the face of it (pending an interpretation of 'to be'), the argument
does not follow. In keeping with the dialectical requirement, then, we
must interpret this passage in such a way that the connoisseurs are likely
to accept the premises and in such a way that the inference plausibly
follows.14
There are several senses of 'to be' that might apply here. One is the
existential sense, which involves glossing 'to be' as 'to exist'.15 Such an
interpretation, however, also involves violating the dialectical requirement. The connoisseurs would not accept the premises on an existential
reading of 'to be'. As Annas (1981:196-7) points out, they would probably
reject (2), interpreted existentially, and claim to know some things that
in fact do not exist. Despite her death many years in the past, the connoisseurs might claim to know that Helen was beautiful. They might also
claim to know at least one thing about the beautiful itselfnamely, that
it does not exist. The existential reading requires, however, that the
connoisseurs give up such knowledge claims in accepting (2).
Also, for the inference from (1) and (2) to follow or even for (3) to
make sense it apparently must be assumed that there are degrees of
being. Some things are completely, and others are in no way. Socrates has
no trouble getting agreement that opinion is set over what is intermediate between being and not being (478d). On an existential reading of 'to
be', these claims involve the notion of degrees of existence. There is no
good reason, however, to suppose that the connoisseurs would agree
that there are degrees of existence. Nominalistic and non-nominalistic
connoisseurs alike would be far more likely to believe that some things
exist and others do not than to admit of an ontologically suspicious
middle ground. If we read 'to be' existentially, the connoisseurs must
either posit such a middle ground or deny that there is such a thing as
14 The text of 476e-7a is unclear as to whether Socrates infers (3) from (1) and (2) or
instead infers Glaucon's acceptance of (3) from his acceptance of (1) and (2). This
detail makes little difference, however, because the best grounds for inferring
Glaucon's agreement come from endorsing the inference of (3) from (1) and (2).
15 Allen (1961) and Benitez (1996) favor this reading.
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opinion when they agree that opinion is set over what is 'intermediate'
(478c-d). It is implausible that the connoisseurs would do either, so we
should give up the existential reading.
A promising alternative is the predicative reading of 'to be'. Such a
reading treats 'to be' as a copula, and thus treats sentences like 'Knowledge is set over what is' as elliptical. They can be completed by adding
some predicate, F, so that 'Knowledge is set over what is' glosses as
'Knowledge is set over what is-F'.16 There are two different versions of
the predicative reading, but there are some difficulties that both versions
have in common. It is not clear what the relevant predicates are with
which we should complete the elliptical sentences. There may be some
particular predicates that Socrates has in mind (perhaps Tjeautiful'), or
it could be that we should understand 'is-F' schematically, with 'F'
replaceable by any of a number of predicates that satisfy some further
(perhaps null) set of conditions. We might gain some clarity here by
looking forward to the argument from opposites (478e ff.), but that
argument comes too late. By 478, the connoisseurs have already agreed
to the key premises involving 'to be', and it is not reasonable to expect
them to agree to those premises before the meaning of 'to be' in them has
been clarified.17
The simplest version of the predicative reading is what I call straight
predication. On this interpretation, the 'F' in 'is-F' is replaceable by such
predicates as l>eautifur, 'double', or 'just' (see 479a ff.). This reading
runs into difficulties of its own. It is unrealistic to suppose that the
connoisseurs do not think that they have 'negative knowledge' of some
sort. But if we read 'what is' as 'what is beautiful' (for example) and 'what
is not' as 'what is not beautiful', we have to read 'What is in no way is in
every way unknowable' as 'What is beautiful in no way is in every way
unknowable'. Charity dictates that we restrict the ways of knowing in
the range of 'every' so that the most plausible interpretation is that one
cannot know anything about the beauty of something that is in no way
16 Reeve (1988) and Armas (1981) adopt this approach. Kahn (1981) adopts a complicated account combining elements of the predicative reading with elements of the
veridical reading.
17 One might attempt to use 476b-d to evade this problem, but there is only one
predicate, ', used in that passage. One can construct any theory from a
single data point, and the discussion there does not rule a predicative interpretation
in or out.
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18 One might respond to this objection by saying that the connoisseurs would agree
that something that is in no way F is also in no way knowable as F. The problem
with this reply is that to know something as F is just to know that it is F. The objection,
then, does not allow for a distinction between knowing something as F (a predicative
reading) and knowing that its being F is so (a veridical reading). If the objection
works, then, it works by backing off from what makes the predicative reading a
predicative reading, and so fails to give that reading much support.
19 Recall Socrates' assessment of Euthyphro's claim (Euthyphro 5d-6e) that piety is
prosecuting wrongdoers, whoever they may be. He does not say that prosecuting
wrongdoers is and is not what piety is, or that it is intermediate between what piety
is and what piety is not. Rather, he points out that prosecuting wrongdoers is
altogether the wrong sort of thing to be what piety is.
Taking the veridical nuance into account, Kahn develops a version of the
predicative reading such that 'to be' means 'really (and not just apparently) to be F'. There is much to recommend such a reading, but it suffers
20 To the extent that the 'identity interpretation' (treating 'is' as 'is identical to') is a
serious option, it is a species of the predicative interpretation.
21 Fine (1991) attempts to get around the 'degrees of truth' problem by reconstructing
the argument in terms of sets of propositions. Doing so, however, is anachronistic,
and anachronism is not allowed if we take the dialectical requirement as a serious
interpretive constraint. The connoisseurs cannot agree to something that has not yet
been conceived.
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we find things that fall into both category 1 and category 2. Because
something in category l.a. cannot be in category 2, and something in
category 2.a. cannot be in category 1, anything intermediate between
what purely is and what is in no way would have to fall into both
category l.b. and category 2.b. These are things that seem one way and
also seem another way; they are so if viewed from one perspective and
they are not so if viewed from another.
If this version of the veridical interpretation is to work, however, it
must also hold up in two other important parts of Socrates' argument
against the connoisseurs. The first is the 'powers argument' at 477c ff.,
in which Socrates attempts to show that opinion is intermediate between
knowledge and ignorance. The second is the 'argument from opposites'
at 478a ff., in which he argues that the many beautifuls (for example) are
intermediate between being and not being, and thus objects of opinion but
not knowledge. I rum to these arguments in the following section.
23 This purely logical point does not depend on any particular interpretation of the
ambiguous expression 'set over' ('epi').
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which one is set but not the other.24 In this case, it will turn out that
knowledge is set over the whole of category 1 (with complete knowledge
restricted to category l.a.)/ while opinion is set over a part of category 1,
as well as a part of category 2.
Suppose that knowledge and opinion were set over exactly the same
things. Because knowing is set over 'what is [so] to know it as it is
[independently of how things seem]' (477b), this means that opinion
must be set over what is so to opine it as it is independently of how things
seem. Then, however, there would be no difference between knowing
and opining. In each case one comes to believe what is so independently
of how things seem. Opining, like knowing, would be infallible. But
opinion is fallible, and knowledge is not (477e). The difference in what
opinion does and what knowledge does in part depends on there being
a difference in what they are each set over.
Although this approach provides a plausible reconstruction of the
inference from the distinctness of knowledge and opinion to the distinctness of their domains, it does not follow very closely the way that
Socrates and Glaucon actually argue in the text. Glaucon says plainly at
478a-b, '[I]f a different power is set over something different, and opinion and knowledge are different powers, then the knowable and the
opinable cannot be the same.' He is invoking Socrates' criterion of
individuation of powers in its general form, and he is not appealing to
the special relationship between opining and knowing.25
Another possibility is to grant that Socrates has made a mistake. Even
charity has its limits, and the inference from the difference of the powers
to the difference of both their domains and what they do is drawn
unequivocally at 478a-b. Even if we try to interpret Socrates' words at
477d as merely claiming that different (mental) powers are always set
over different things and always do different things, then we face the
difficulty of determining why merely doing the same or merely being set
over the same things would be sufficient for their identity (as in that case
26 I here say 'harmless' in that it does not lead Socrates to draw a false conclusion.
However, it is far from harmless so far as the overall project of the Republic goes. If
this inference does not work, then the argument Socrates offers to persuade the
connoisseurs does not go through, and that could have disastrous consequences. It
could render the approximately ideal city, and thus personal justice, impossible.
I think the problem can be solved, but I do not have an argument for my favored
solution. Eric Brown has suggested to me, for example, that perhaps 'same' and
'different' are being used as contraries rather than contradictories in this passage.
On that interpretation, powers that are purely the same do the same things with
regard to the same things, and powers that are purely different do different things
with regard to different domains. Powers that do different things with regard to the
same domain, or the same thing with regard to different domains, would then be
in one sense the same as one another and in another sense different. Whether one
agrees with this interpretation or not (I do), it does show that the problem in me
powers argument derives from the ways that 'same' and 'different' are used, not
from the use of 'to be'. It is 'to be' that I am concerned
with in this paper.
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hon, one can make sense of this passage either way. Assume first that
Socrates is arguing against those who believe in the many beautiful
things (but not the beautiful itself) in the sense of believing only in the
many beautiful objects. That is, assume that he is arguing against nominalists. The key point is that he frames the relevant contrasts in terms of
how things appear.
"My dear fellow," we'll say, "of all the many beautiful things, is there
one that will not also appear ugly? Or is there one of those just things
that will not also appear unjust? Or one of those pious things that will
not also appear impious?" (478e-9a)
What about the many doubles? Do they appear any the less halves than
doubles? (479b)
So, with the many bigs and smalls and lights and heavies, is any of them
any more the thing someone says it is than its opposite? (479b, my
emphasis)
27 The double, being a mathematical matter, might appear to raise special difficulties
of its own for these appeals to how things seem to be. For discussion of a platonistic
(but perhaps not Platonic) view of things seeming mathematically different while
in fact being grounded in a single, objective, mathematical truth, see C.B. Wrenn
(1998).
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28 This paper has benefitted tremendously from helpful comments and criticisms from
Eric Brown, A.M.C. Casiday, Josefa Toribio, Richard Watson, and an anonymous
referee for Apeiron.
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