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IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF ORANGE

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MAHMOOD REZAI,

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Plaintiff,
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vs.
) Case No.
) 30-2013-00686136HARBOR POINTE-NEWPORT OWNERS
) CU-OR-CJC
ASSOCIATION, a Nonprofit Mutual )
Benefit Corporation, MICHAEL
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CROSSLEY, CONNIE MORRIS,
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GEORGIA W. HICKINGBOTHAM,
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HOUSHANG KHADEMI, and DOES 1-10 )
INCLUSIVE,
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Defendants.
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________________________________)

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Deposition of:

CONNIE L. MORRIS

Date and time:

Thursday, February 12, 2015, 10:13 a.m.

Location:

30011 Ivy Glenn, Suite 121


Laguna Niguel, California 92677

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Reporter:
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Roxann M. Strid, CSR


Certificate No. 4842
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Deposition of CONNIE L. MORRIS, taken before

Roxann M. Strid, Certified Shorthand Reporter,

Certificate No. 4842, with principal office in the

County of Orange, commencing at 10:13 a.m., Thursday,

February 12, 2015, at the Law Office of

Tracy Ettinghoff, located at 30011 Ivy Glenn, Suite 121,

Laguna Niguel, California.

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APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:
For the Plaintiff:
LAW OFFICE OF TRACY ETTINGHOFF
Attorneys at Law
BY: TRACY ETTINGHOFF, ESQ.
30011 Ivy Glenn
Suite 121
Laguna Niguel, California 92677
(949) 363-5573

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For the Defendant Harbor Pointe-Newport Owners


Association:
HAIGHT BROWN & BONESTEEL LLP
Attorneys at Law
BY: CHRISTOPHER KENDRICK, ESQ.
555 South Flower Street
Forty-Fifth Floor
Los Angeles, California 90071
(213) 542-8000

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APPEARANCES (CONTINUED):
For the Defendants Georgia W. Hickingbotham and
Houshang Khademi:

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THE NAPOLES LAW FIRM


Attorneys at Law
BY: STEVEN R. NAPOLES, ESQ.
120 Vantis
Suite 300
Aliso Viejo, California 92656
(949) 540-6767

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For the Defendant Michael Crossley (Appearing


Telephonically):

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LITCHFIELD CAVO LLP


Attorneys at Law
BY: CHRISTOPHER CHAPLIN, ESQ.
251 South Lake Avenue
Suite 750
Pasadena, California 91101-3003
(626) 683-1100

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ALSO PRESENT:

Mahmood Rezai
Hal Morris

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I N D E X

Witness:

Examination:

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF ----------------------------------- 6

BY MR NAPOLES ------------------------------------- 109

CONNIE L. MORRIS
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E X H I B I T S
Description

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Grant Deed dated 3/12/14, two pages

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Harbor Pointe-Newport Owners Association,


Rules & Regulations And Architectural
Guidelines, Amended and Adopted by the
Board of Directors May 11, 2005, 12 pages

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Harbor Pointe-Newport Owners Association


Board Of Directors Meeting, General
Session Minutes, June 4, 2013, five pages

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Declaration Of Connie Morris, five pages

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Recorded Agreement For Landscaping


Variance, "Recording Requests By And
When Recorded Return To:
Michael Crossley", dated 12/11/13, six
pages

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Photocopy of two Mailing Envelopes,


Bates stamped HPNOA 0000081, one page

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E X H I B I T S
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Description

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Recorded Agreement For Landscaping


Variance, "Recording Requests By And
When Recorded Return To:
Hal Morris, Trustee, Connie Morris,
Hal Morris Companies, Inc., VEBA",
dated 12/11/13, six pages

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INFORMATION REQUESTED:

QUESTIONS NOT ANSWERED:

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NOTATIONS FOR COUNSEL


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LAGUNA NIGUEL, CALIFORNIA - THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 12, 2015

10:13 A.M.

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CONNIE L. MORRIS

called as a witness, and having been first duly sworn by

the Certified Shorthand Reporter, was examined and

testified as follows:

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EXAMINATION
BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
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Would you, please, state your name for the

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record and spell it so the court reporter can take it

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down.

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Connie, C-o-n-n-i-e, L., like Larry, Morris,

M-o-r-r-i-s.
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All right.

Ms. Morris, my name is

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Tracy Ettinghoff and I represent Mahmood in this lawsuit

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and we're here to get some information from you today

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under oath, and the proceeding that we're doing is

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called a deposition.

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Have you ever had your deposition taken?

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No.

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Okay.

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Let me just go over some of the ground

rules so you understand what is happening.


The court reporter is seated to my right here
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and she's going to take down everything that's said

during the deposition in shorthand form and then at the

conclusion of the deposition, she transcribes it into a

booklet which is called the deposition transcript, all

right?

Okay.

You'll have an opportunity to review the

transcript after it's prepared and to make sure that

it's accurate, okay?

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Hm-hmmn.

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And if there's anything in it that you feel is

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inaccurate, you can make changes to the transcript;

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however, you're under oath today and the testimony that

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you give during the deposition is the same type of

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testimony that you give while you're testifying in

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court.

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that if you make any changes to the transcript after

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you've answered a question during this proceeding today,

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we can comment upon that at the trial because you're

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under oath right now; do you understand that?

It is under oath, and so I want to caution you

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Yes.

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I also want to just let you know that all of

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your answers have to be audible because even though you

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might shake your head like this, (indicating), and I

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might understand what that response is, it won't show on


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the record because she doesn't take down nods of the

head.

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She only can record audible responses.


So whenever I ask you a question, you do need

to answer audibly, all right?

All right.

Okay.

Also, I don't want you to guess at the

answer to any question.

either don't have a good answer -- I mean, you don't

either remember or you don't understand my question --

If there's some reason why you

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Hm-hmmn.

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-- I want you to tell me that you don't

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understand it and I'll try to rephrase it so you do

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understand it.

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I'm not trying to trick you.

I just want to

get your best testimony, okay?

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Okay.

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All right.

Are you under any kind of

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medication today that would prevent you from giving

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accurate testimony?

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No.

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Okay.

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Let's see.

Do you live at number 4

Harbor Pointe in the Harbor Pointe-Newport community?

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Yes.

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And how long have you lived there?

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20 years.
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All right.

Are you familiar with the

Hal Morris Companies, Incorporated?

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to -- I'm going to

object to any line of inquiry into the business of the

Hal Morris Companies as involving private information of

third parties, confidential information, trade secrets,

and with that general statement, you can go ahead and

ask her a question, so --

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MR. ETTINGHOFF:
familiar with it.

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MR. KENDRICK:

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THE WITNESS:

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You can answer that one.


Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

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I only asked her if she was

Okay.

And are you familiar with the Hal Morris

Companies, Incorporated, VEBA, V-E-B-A?

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Yes.

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And do you have an understanding of what that

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is?
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I'm going to object, that that

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just involves confidential proprietary information and

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private information, third parties' financial

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information, and I think generally she can testify as to

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what her understanding of it is, but into any

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particulars, I'm not going to let her answer that.

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MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Well, I -- we're -- in the


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litigation, one of the issues is who was on the title,

so I'm just trying to determine who the title was held

by.

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MR. KENDRICK:

The association and Ms. Morris

are willing to stipulate as to who was on the title --

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

Well --- and we've produced copies of

the recorded documents showing who was on the title,

when they were on the title, and so any further

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information is also irrelevant and I'm going to object.

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I'm going to instruct her not to answer.

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(Exhibit 1 was marked for identification

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by the Certified Shorthand Reporter, a copy of

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which is attached hereto.)

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BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
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Okay.

Let me mark what we'll call Exhibit

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number 1 and have you review that.

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deed that was recorded on March 12th, 2014.

This is a copy of a

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(Document handed to counsel).

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MR. NAPOLES:

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Thank you.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

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Do you recognize that?

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Yes.

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And this is a document which appears to be

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signed by your husband.

Is that your husband,


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Hal Morris?

Yes.

Okay.

And by this document then, your husband

added you to the title to the property at 4 Harbor

Pointe?

Yes.

Prior to that date, on March 12th, 2014, was

your name ever on the title to any property in

Harbor Pointe?

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I thought it was.

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But to your knowledge, you don't have any

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information to show that it was then?

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I guess not.

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How many times have you served on the board of

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directors at Harbor Pointe-Newport?

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Probably 13 years.

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And do you know the years that you served on

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the board, which years they were?

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Well, 2003 -- I was off two years.

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You were off for two years?

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Hm-hmmn.

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THE REPORTER:

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THE WITNESS:

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"Yes"?
Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
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When you say "off", you mean you were on


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vacation or you were just not on the board?

I was not on the board.

So that was around the 2003/2004 time period or

when?

No.

Okay.

Let's see.

2012 and about 2007.

I'm confused.

In 2012 and 2007 --

I didn't run on 2012.

Okay.

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And in 2007, you did not run?

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I -- I don't remember if I ran.

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So are your annual elections usually in

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September?

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Okay.

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So in 2012, you did not run?

So for the September 2012 election, you

did not run?

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Okay.

I'm not trying to make this complicated.

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I just want to make sure I understand what years you

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were on the board.

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Were you on the board between -A

I was not on the board when Danni Sun and

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Frank Hickingbotham and Mahmood were on.

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that year.

I did not run

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That would be from September of 2012 till

September of 2013?

Exactly.

Okay.

Did you also say that you were not on

the board in the time frame of around 2007?

Approximately, hm-hmmn.

Okay.

And that was a one-year period when you

were not on the board?

Hm-hmmn.

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THE REPORTER:

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THE WITNESS:

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"Yes"?
Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
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Do you know whether any of the other members at

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the Harbor Pointe-Newport Community Association were

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aware at the times when you were elected previously,

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that you were not on the title to the property at

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4 Harbor Pointe?

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No.

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You don't have any information?

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No.

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Okay.

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Have you ever served on the

architectural committee for the association?

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Yes.

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Okay.

And from the times that you have been on


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the board, has the architectural committee always been

the same as the board?

Yes.

They've never had a separate architectural

committee?

No.

Do you know whether or not you were on the

board in the approximate time period of 2005?

I -- yes, I believe I was, hm-hmmn.

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Are you aware of any other disputes in the

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Harbor Pointe-Newport Community Association about views

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since you've served on the board, other than Mahmood's

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dispute?

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Do you remember a dispute about views that

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Bill Adams was involved in?

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Do you know who Bill Adams is?

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I do.

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Wasn't Bill Adams on the board

previously?

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Yes, but not with me.

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Oh, he served --

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Different time.

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-- at a different time?

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Hm-hmmn.
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Was he on the board before you became --

Yes.

-- on-board?

Hm-hmmn.

Okay. And did you ever hear about a view

dispute involving Bill Adams?

No.

So you've never heard of any other view dispute

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at Harbor Pointe-Newport, other than the one that


Mahmood has going on right now?

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That's right.

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Has anybody else in the community, other than

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Mahmood, to your knowledge, ever complained about their

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view being blocked?

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To my knowledge, no.

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So the board -- neither the board or the

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architectural committee has ever been asked to resolve

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any dispute between members concerning a view, other

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than the current dispute that is going on with

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Mahmood Rezai?

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To my memory, no.

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Have you personally ever gone to Mr. Rezai's

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house to see what the view obstruction looks like from

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his home?

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MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object that your


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question assumes that there's a -- there is a view

objection -- or a view obstruction.

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If you could rephrase it in a way -BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:


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Have you ever been to Mahmood's house to see

the view from his property?

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When were you there?

I don't remember when.

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Do you remember how long ago it was?

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A number of years.

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Was it more than two years ago?

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Yes.

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Was it more than five years ago?

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I don't remember.

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What was the occasion that you were at

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Mr. Rezai's home for when you were there?


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He wanted us to go look at his view.

He has

the best view in the whole community.


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So you went to Mr. Rezai's house for the

purpose of looking at his view?


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He invited us to come, my husband and I, to

come look at the view.


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Was the purpose for looking at the view, was he

complaining about his view being obstructed or was he


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just showing you his house and saying, "Oh, look at my

beautiful view"?

view, no.

one time?

No, one time.

Okay.

I don't remember him complaining about the

Have you been there more than one time or only

You've only been to his house one

time --

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-- to look at his view?

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a holiday gathering.

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And do you remember when that was?

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And did you look at the view --

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-- on that occasion?

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Hmmn-hmmn.

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Was that at nighttime?

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So you don't have any estimate of when this

time was that you went to his house to look at -- for

the specific purpose of looking at his view?

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It was before he did his new construction; I

know that.

Before he remodeled the home?

Hm-hmmn.

THE REPORTER:

THE WITNESS:

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"Yes"?
Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
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Okay.

If I told you that he remodeled his home

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in approximately 2009, would that refresh your

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recollection as to when this might have happened?

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No, it doesn't refresh my recollection.

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Okay.

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Do you think it might have been more

than five years ago?

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Possibly.

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Have you ever been to Mr. Rezai's property

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after he remodeled his home?

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How did you know that he remodeled his home?

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Because he had to get approval, architectural

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approval.

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And you were on the board when he sought --

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Yes.
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-- architectural approval?
So just so I have the record clear then, to the

best of your recollection, you haven't been to

Mr. Rezai's home to look at the view from his home since

before he remodeled his home; is that correct?

That's correct.

All right.

Have you ever been asked to --

while you were on the board or the architectural

committee, to resolve any dispute concerning Mr. Rezai's

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view?

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MR. KENDRICK:

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THE WITNESS:

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MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to -Yes.


-- object to the question that

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it's vague and ambiguous as to what you're talking about

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resolve any dispute as to the view.

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MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Well, one of the provisions in

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the CC&R's, as you know, states that if there's a

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dispute between owners concerning a view, the dispute

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shall be submitted to the architectural committee which

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shall make the decision about that.

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MR. KENDRICK:

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MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Is that the wording of the -It's something to that effect

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and so I'm just trying to find out from her whether

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she's ever been on the board or the architectural

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committee when it was asked that she or the board when


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she was serving on it resolve a dispute concerning

Mr. Rezai's view.

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm still going to object to

that.

of the board to grant variances and I'm not sure it just

says anything in general about resolve a dispute; I

mean, the board and the ARC have specific duties and

authorities, and with that objection, I'm going to say

if you can answer that, go ahead.

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I think the wording has to do with the authority

If you can reask your question, go ahead.


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Do you understand the question?

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Yes, I understand.

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Okay.

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And let me repeat it then just so we can

understand.

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I'm trying to find out if you while serving on

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the board of directors at the association or on the

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architectural committee were ever in the position of

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having to resolve a dispute concerning Mr. Rezai's view.

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To my recollection, yes, once.

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Do you recall when that was?

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I do not recall.

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And do you remember what the nature of the

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dispute was?
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It was between Mahmood and number 8.


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Number 8 was --

Hans.

-- Khademi?

Hm-hmmn.

MR. KENDRICK:

THE WITNESS:

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"Yes" or "no"?
Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
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All right.

So you remember a dispute between

Mr. Rezai and Mr. Khademi about Mr. Rezai's view?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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No, I do not recall.

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All right.

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Can you tell me what that dispute was?

And you don't have a recollection

as to the approximate time frame when that occurred?

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No.

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Do you recall what the resolution of that

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dispute was?
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On recommendation of the property manager at

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that time, he said this was a neighbor-to-neighbor

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dispute.

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about it?

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Correct.

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When that dispute arose between Mr. Rezai and

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So the association didn't make any decision

Mr. Khademi about his view, did you or any other members
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of the board go to Mr. Rezai's property to see what the

view dispute was about or to see the effect of

Mr. Khademi's trees on Mr. Rezai's view?

I don't remember.

So while you've served on the board at the

association or the architectural committee, you yourself

have never personally been involved in the resolution of

any view disputes; is that correct?

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MR. NAPOLES:

Objection, misstates prior

testimony.

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MR. KENDRICK:

Yeah, I'm also going to object

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to the form of the question as assuming some facts that

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aren't in evidence and potentially being vague and

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ambiguous with regard to what's a dispute and what the

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duties of the board are under the CC&R's, the

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architectural guidelines and other governing documents.

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BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

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Well, let me rephrase the question just so you

understand what I'm trying to find out.

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Do you recall ever serving on the board at the

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association or the architectural committee when you were

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engaged in the process of trying to resolve a view

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dispute, other than the dispute that Mr. Rezai has going

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on right now?

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You don't recall any other view disputes?

No.

So you personally have never been asked to

decide then whether somebody's view at Harbor Pointe is

unreasonably obstructed?

No.

And you haven't heard of any other disputes

regarding views, other than the dispute that Mr. Rezai

has going on at Harbor Pointe?

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Well, inside the community you're talking

about?

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Yes.

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Outside the community there's been issues with

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neighbors across the street out of the community, but

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no.

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Oh, what was the dispute with neighbors outside

of the community?
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Neighbors that resided in number 11 wanted the

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view opened up across the street where there's a lot of

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foliage, so --

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Oh, the --

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Across San Miguel.

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Okay.

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And that that foliage was not within the

Harbor Pointe -A

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-- Newport community?

That's what I said.

Oh, okay.

So to your knowledge, has the

association ever enforced the provision in the CC&R's

that requires homeowners to maintain the trees on their

lot to a height not to exceed their ridgeline?

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object, that

that -- that assumes that facts aren't in evidence and

potentially misstates the scope of what's -- what's the

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governing documents specify in terms of the board's

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obligation to resolve disputes and the architectural

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committee's duties.

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MR. NAPOLES:

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MR. KENDRICK:

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THE WITNESS:

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MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I'll join.
You can answer it.
Could you repeat that, please?
Well, let's have the court

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reporter read the question back.

18

(Record read).

19

THE WITNESS:

20
21
22

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

When has the association enforced that

provision?

23

All the time.

24

Okay.

25

Yes.

We keep our trees trimmed.

When you say, "We keep our trees

trimmed", are you talking about you and your husband


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1
2

personally on your lot or what?


A

We have 20 homes, very small community, and

everybody abides by the CC&R's and keeps their trees

below their ridgeline.

Okay.

Your testimony is that all the

homeowners in Harbor Pointe-Newport maintain their trees

on their lots --

Yes.

-- below the ridgeline of --

10

Yes.

11

-- their houses?

12

Yes.

13

Even now?

14

Yes.

15
16
17

Oh, when you say "trees" then, you're not

including palms?
A

No.

19

Okay.

It's a different species.


Let me see if I can rephrase the

question then about palm trees then.

21
22

Palms are

different.

18

20

Palms are not trees.

To the best of your recollection, while you've


served on the board at --

23

Right.

24

-- Harbor Pointe-Newport, has the association

25

ever required anybody to maintain the palm trees on


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their property to a height not to exceed the ridgeline

of their house?

3
4

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object that a palm

isn't necessarily a tree --

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

Well --- but with that proviso, you

can go ahead and answer it.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Do you understand the question?

10

Everybody maintains the trees, the palms.

11

Okay.

I'm trying to find out, though -- do you

12

understand that before this lawsuit was filed, there was

13

a provision in your CC&R's regarding the height of

14

trees?

15

Yes.

16

Are you familiar with that?

17

Yes.

18

Okay.

And what I'm trying to find out from you

19

is whether or not the association has ever enforced that

20

provision with regard to palm trees.

21
22

MR. KENDRICK:

Same objection.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

23

Okay.

Do you understand the question?

24

Seems like a trick.

25

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I don't want --

I'm not trying to trick you.

I'm just trying

to find out whether or not the association has ever told

anybody by sending them a letter or asked them in

Harbor Pointe to keep their palms trimmed to a height

not to exceed the height of their roof.

Now, when you added that last part, that's

when -- not to exceed the roofline, we ask people to

keep them trimmed, and they're all very manicured and in

10

good shape, but when you add that last part --

11

The last part about not to exceed the --

12

Above the ridgeline, yeah.

13

Oh, so if I understand your response then,

14

you're saying that to your knowledge, people generally

15

keep their palms trimmed --

16

Yes.

17

-- but not necessarily to a height that doesn't

18

exceed the top of their house; is that what you're

19

saying?

20

Correct.

21

Okay.

So just to be clear then, you're not

22

aware of any prior occasion when the association has

23

demanded that somebody trim their palms on their

24

property to a height which does not exceed the height of

25

their roof; is that right?


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That's correct.

(Exhibit 2 was marked for identification

by the Certified Shorthand Reporter, a copy of

which is attached hereto.)

5
6

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

All right.

I'm going to ask you to look at

what we'll mark as Exhibit number 2.

the "Harbor Pointe-Newport Owners Association Rules &

Regulations And Architectural Guidelines Amended and

10

This is copy of

Adopted by the Board of Directors" on May 11, 2005.

11

For the record, I will represent that this was

12

attached to your Declaration filed in connection with

13

the Motion for Summary Judgment, and anyways, I'd like

14

you to look at that and see if you recognize it.

15

Yes, I'm familiar with this.

16

Were you on the board when these "Rules &

17

Regulations" were adopted?

18

Yes.

19

To your knowledge, have these "Rules &

20

Regulations" ever been amended since the date these were

21

adopted?

22

Amended?

I don't know.

Are you --

23

What I'm trying to find out is whether or not

24

these are still the current "Rules & Regulations And

25

Architectural Guidelines" of the association.


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MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object to the

question about being amended as calling for a legal

conclusion.

those might have been superceded by the amendment to the

CC&R's themselves could be vague and ambiguous in that

regard, but you can answer the question.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

8
9
10

You know, to the extent that something in

Do you ever recall any amendments to the "Rules

& Regulations" or the "Architectural Guidelines" since


you've been on the board?

11

Amendments, yes.

12

When?

13
14

MR. KENDRICK:
(indicating).

15
16

He's asking about these,

THE WITNESS:

On this?

Oh.

No, this --

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

17

All right.

18

No.

19

To your knowledge then, these "Rules &

20

Regulations And Architectural Guidelines" that we've

21

marked as Exhibit 2 are still in effect then now?

22

To the best of my knowledge.

23

Did you attend any of the meetings in the year

24

2013 of the board when Mr. Rezai's view dispute was

25

being discussed?
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What part of 2013, though?


MR. NAPOLES:

Objection, vague and the only

reason I say that is she was a member for part of that

time frame --

THE WITNESS:

Yes.

MR. NAPOLES:

-- and on the board for part of

that time.

general meetings, executive session is the split?

Thanks so much.

10
11
12

In the term "meeting", are we talking

THE WITNESS:

It overlaps.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

All right.

Well, let's see.

You've told us

13

previously that you were not on the board from

14

September 2012 through September 2013, correct?

15

was the year that you were off the board?

That

16

To the best of my knowledge.

17

So for the year 2013 then, you were off the

18

board from January through September, correct?

19

To the best of my knowledge, yes.

20

Let me rephrase my question then.

21

From that time period, from January of 2013

22

till September of 2013, did you attend any of the

23

meetings, any board meetings at Harbor Pointe when

24

Mr. Rezai's view complaint was being discussed?

25

No.
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All right.

What about, there was a meeting

that occurred in June of 2013 concerning Mr. Rezai's

view complaint.

Did you attend that meeting?

I don't remember.
(Exhibit 3 was marked for identification

by the Certified Shorthand Reporter, a copy of

which is attached hereto.)

8
9
10

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

All right.

I'm going to now show you what

we'll mark as Exhibit number 3.

11

(Document handed to counsel).

12

MR. NAPOLES:

13
14

Thank you.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

This is a copy of the minutes of a board of

15

director meeting which occurred on June 4th, 2013.

16

was produced by the association as part of the discovery

17

and these minutes show that you and your husband were

18

present at that meeting; do you recall that?

This

19

I guess we were.

I don't recall the meeting.

20

On Page 2 of these minutes, it shows that the

21

homeowners from number 1 and number 8 Harbor Pointe were

22

present for hearings to discuss the tree trimming

23

requested by the board of directors.

24
25

MR. KENDRICK:

Is there a question there?

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Yeah, I'm just asking you to read this section

of the minutes to see if that refreshes your

recollection about that meeting.

It does not.

All right.

And then further on in these

minutes then, there's a copy of the executive session

minutes for on the same date.

I was not on the board at this time.

All right.

10

So I would not be in executive session.

11

All right.

12

So you did not ascend the executive

session --

13

No.

14

-- on June 4th?

15

No.

16

All right.

Other than what's in the minutes of

17

that executive session meeting, do you have any personal

18

knowledge about what occurred in that executive session?

19
20

No.
MR. KENDRICK:

I'm also going to object that

21

she actually testified that she was not present at the

22

executive session so she wouldn't, other than implies

23

somehow that she might have had knowledge of executive

24

session and that misstates her testimony.

25

(Exhibit 4 was marked for identification


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by the Certified Shorthand Reporter, a copy of

which is attached hereto.)

3
4
5

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Okay.

Now, I'm going to ask you to look at

what we'll mark as Exhibit number 4.

Do you recognize this document?

Yes.

And on the last page, page 4, is that your

signature of Exhibit number 4?

10

Yes.

11

And did you read the contents of this

12

Declaration before you signed it?

13

Yes.

14

All right.

Let's see.

I'm going to ask you to

15

look at paragraph "14." of your Declaration.

16

Page 2.

17

I'll read it into the record.

It's on

It says,

18

"Following complaints by Plaintiff in 2012 that his view

19

was being obstructed, the Board instructed the

20

management company to notify homeowners requesting

21

trimming, which was performed."; you see that?

22

I see it.

23

And is that something that you know of your own

24
25

personal knowledge?
A

To the best of my knowledge, I was not on the


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board, but could have been part of that year; I don't

know.

This is true.

Well, I'm trying to find out what information

you had to base that statement on.

5
6

I signed it.

You said that you were not on the board when


this occurred, right?

MR. KENDRICK:

No, I believe she testified,

Counsel, that she was not on the board for part of 2012.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

10

Well, were you on the board when the board

11

instructed the management company to notify homeowners

12

requesting trimming?

13

I don't remember.

14

Were you on the board at any time when the

15

homeowners did the trimming that you're referring to in

16

paragraph "14."?

17
18
19
20

I signed this Declaration and whatever I said

is true.
Q

I know you signed it, but I'm trying to find

out the basis for your statements in this Declaration.

21

Well --

22

Do you --

23

Well, board decisions are binding, so I'm sure

24
25

this is true.
Q

But I'm trying to find out where you got this


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information from.

Is this something that you found from the

minutes that you reviewed or did somebody tell you this?

How do you know this if you were not on the board when

this occurred?

I don't recall.

You state in paragraph "14." that, "... the

Board instructed the management company to notify

homeowners requesting trimming, which was performed."

10

Hm-hmmn.

11

All right.

Now, when you say "which was

12

performed", you're referring to the trimming or the fact

13

that the letters went out?

14

Both.

15

Okay.

16

And you have personal knowledge of this

trimming that was done?

17

To the best of my recollection, yes.

18

All right.

So did you observe trimming being

19

done by either Michael Crossley, the Hickingbothams or

20

Mr. Khademi?

21

MR. NAPOLES:

22

compound and vague.

23

each individual.

24
25

I'm going to object.

It's

I think you need to break it out by

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Okay.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
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2

Well, did you observe any of these three

individuals doing trimming after these letters went out?

MR. NAPOLES:

Objection, assumes facts not in

evidence as to whether or not all of the individuals you

just named received those letters in the first place.

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Well, she testified that she

believes the letters went out.

she --

MR. KENDRICK:

I believe that's what

But you never defined as to who.

10

You just automatically assumed that it was Hans, the

11

Hickingbothams and Mr. Crossley.

12

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

13
14

Well, I'm just trying to find out whether you

observed any of the homeowners doing trimming after.

15

Homeowners do trimming all the time --

16

But I'm --

17

-- including us.

18

I'm talking about the trimming that was

19

requested that you're referring to in paragraph "14." of

20

your Declaration.

21

Yes.

22

Okay.

Okay.
My question is:

Did you observe any of

23

the homeowners doing any trimming after in response to

24

these letters that your paragraph "14." is referring to?

25

MR. NAPOLES:

Same objection.
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THE WITNESS:

it.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Well, this doesn't say I observed

My question to you is:

No.

Okay.

Did you observe it?

So is the information that you have in

paragraph "14." then based on hearsay then, just what --

No.

-- other people have told you?

10

No.

11

What is it based on?

12

MR. KENDRICK:

Counsel, you know -- I mean, it

13

says on its face that she reviewed the records of the

14

association in preparing the Declaration and --

15

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

You know as well as I do, I

16

have the absolute right to ask her whether she has

17

personal knowledge of this.

18

personal knowledge on it and it's based on hearsy, it's

19

inadmissible.

20

MR. KENDRICK:

If she doesn't have

She testified that she has no

21

recollection as she sits here today.

22

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

23

Okay.

So just to be clear that the record is

24

clear, paragraph "14.", you did not personally observe

25

any of the events that are described in paragraph "14.",


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correct?

2
3

MR. KENDRICK:

As you sit here today, based on

your recollection as you sit here today.

THE WITNESS:

MR. KENDRICK:

As I sit here today.


That's the only basis you have

as you sit here to testify.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

8
9

Okay.

Let's move on to paragraph "15." then.

I'll read it into the record.

It says, "This was

10

followed by management company inspections and requests

11

for further trimming, all of which was accomplished.";

12

you see that?

13

Yes.

14

Do you have any personal knowledge of the facts

15

stated in that sentence?

16

MR. KENDRICK:

17

as you sit here today.

18

THE WITNESS:

To the best of your recollection

Yes.

To the best of my

19

recollection as I sit here today, yes.

20

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

21

You have personal knowledge of it?

22

To the best of my recollection as I sit here

23
24
25

today.
Q

Okay.

My question is:

Did you personally

observe any of this management company inspections or


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requests for further trimming or the accomplishment of

that trimming?

3
4
5
6

To the best of my recollection as I sit here

today, it's true.


Q

I'm not asking you whether it's true.

asking you whether you personally observed it.

Yes.

Okay.

You were not on the board at that time,

correct?

10

I don't remember.

11

All right.

12

I'm

Well, you were not on the board

between September 2012 and September 2013, correct?

13

Correct.

14

Do you know what time frame paragraph "15."

15

refers to?

16

No.

17

Isn't it true, ma'am, that paragraph "15." is

18

based on what other people have told you and you don't

19

have any personal knowledge of it?

20

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object to the

21

extent that would call for disclosure of attorney-client

22

privileged material.

23

to anything I may have said to her.

24

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

25

Okay.

I'll instruct her not to answer as

That's fine.

You can follow your

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counsel's instruction regarding that, but I'm still

entitled to an answer to the question.

3
4

MR. KENDRICK:

7
8

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I'm just asking you whether you have any

personal knowledge of any of this in paragraph "15."


A

Yes.

10

Okay.

12
13

Number "15.".

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

11

Where are we at,

number "15."?

5
6

I'm sorry.

And what personal knowledge do you have?

Do you have -A

I was asked by Danni Sun to continue to do

landscape inspections.

14

When?

15

When -- when Rezai and Hickingbotham and Danni

16

were on the board.

17

to just walk around.

18
19

You mean when you got back on the board in

September of 2013; is that what you're talking about?

20

MR. KENDRICK:

21

testimony.

22

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

23

So she asked me if I would continue

No, I think that misstates her

Have you ever seen the letters that went out by

24

the board to any of the homeowners asking them to do

25

further trimming on their trees?


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I don't recall.

Were you ever asked by the board to take a look

at any of the trimming that was done either by

Michael Crossley, Hans Khademi or the Hickingbothams of

their palm trees?

MR. KENDRICK:

Well, I'm going to object to

that, first of all, by the use of the term "palm trees".

I'm going to object also again as it's compound as

Mr. Napoles has pointed out and with respect to each of

10

those persons, and I'm also going to object that I think

11

it misstates her testimony in that she just testified a

12

second ago that she was asked by -- by I believe Ms. --

13

THE WITNESS:

14

MR. KENDRICK:

15

So with that objection, you can go ahead and


answer the question, if you want.

18

MR. NAPOLES:

19

evidence.

20

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

21
22

-- Danni Sun to inspect on

behalf of the board.

16
17

Danni.

Further assumes facts not in

I'm not even sure if I recall the question now.

Let me repeat it.

23

Please.

24

Have you ever been asked while you were either

25

on the board or while you were not on the board to


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inspect any trimming of any kind of trees, including

palm trees, by Michael Crossley, Hans Khademi or the

Hickingbothams?

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object.

Was she

asked by those people or was she asked by someone else?

The question is vague and ambiguous.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Were you asked by anybody to do that?


MR. KENDRICK:

I'm also going to object that I

10

think she just testified that she was asked by Danni Sun

11

to perform that exact task.

12

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

13

Okay.

14

She asked me to do the property -- I've done

What did Danni Sun ask you to do?

15

these property walks once a month for a bazillion years

16

and she didn't want to do it, so --

17
18

Okay.

Let's develop that a little bit.

saying you do property walks as a board member then?

19

That this was a voluntary, the --

20

Okay.

21
22

You're

testimony is.
A

I'm trying to find out what your


You said that you've done --

The year that -- that Danni and Frank were on

23

the board, she asked me to continue to do the property

24

walks, yes.

25

What are the "property walks"?


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You walk around the whole property and you

observe if there's dead shrubs or flowers on the HOA

premises.

Okay.

On the property walks then, you're

looking at common area only?

Hm-hmmn, right.

Okay.

So you're looking to see if there's any

maintenance needed on the common area?

Vegetation, yes.

10

And if there is, then you tell the landscaper

11

to --

12

Sure.

13

-- fix it?

14

Yes.

15

Okay.

16

And how often do these property walks

take place?

17

Once a month.

18

And does the property manager go with you on

19

those walks?

20

Yes.

21

Now, during those walks that occur once a

22

month, are you also inspecting the vegetation on the

23

individual lots that are owned by the homeowners?

24

No.

25

All right.

So these walks are mainly to


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inspect the common areas to determine whether any

maintenance is required?

Exactly.

Who prepared this Declaration that we've

identified as Exhibit number 4?

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object, that that

calls for attorney-client privileged communications, but

the fact is I'm the one who assisted Ms. Morris.

worked together in preparing this.

10
11
12

We

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Did you have any input in the preparation of

this document, ma'am?

13

I signed it.

14

I'm asking you whether you had any input in the

15

preparation of it.

16

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to say that calls for

17

an attorney-client communication and object and instruct

18

her not to answer.

19

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

20

Okay.

I'm going to ask you to look at

21

paragraph "16." of your Declaration where it says, "The

22

Association also hired its own tree surgeon to trim

23

landscaping on the common areas."

24
25

Do you see that statement?


A

Yes.
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that?

And can you explain to me what you mean by

Yes.

We have professional people who trim the

palms and the trees --

All right.

-- once a year.

Okay.

And --

Do you know the time frame every year

when that's usually done?

No.

10

Each year it's different?

11

(No audible response).

It's different.

12

THE REPORTER:

13

THE WITNESS:

14
15

Is that a "yes"?
Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Okay.

Let's look at paragraph "17.".

It

16

states, "Notwithstanding, Mr. Rezai complained that

17

certain tall palms continued to obstruct his view."

18

right.

19

Where do you get that information from?

20

MR. KENDRICK:

All

I'm just going to object that

21

the Declaration states at its outset that she's

22

inspected the records of the association and these are

23

kept in the ordinary course of business, and with that

24

objection, you can go ahead and answer, if you know.

25

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
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1
2

Do you know what time frame that sentence

refers to in paragraph "17."?

MR. KENDRICK:

frame, Counsel.

complained.

I don't think it states any time

It just states on its face that he

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I know.

That's what I'm

trying to find out is what the time frame is.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

9
10

If you don't know what the time frame is,

then --

11

I don't know.

12

Let's go to paragraph "18." of your

13

Declaration.

14

investigated and then-Board and Arc members Danni Sun

15

and Frank Hickingbotham issued a binding decision that

16

there was no unreasonable obstruction of Mr. Rezai's

17

view."

I'll read it into the record, "The ARC

18

MR. KENDRICK:

19

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

20

now.

21

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

22

statement by you?

24

facts in this sentence?


A

There's going to be a question

First of all, what is the basis for this

23

25

Is there a question there?

Did you personally observe any of the

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Pardon me?
MR. KENDRICK:

Recognizing, of course, Counsel,

that she can only testify as to what she recalls sitting

here today and that the Declaration on its face is what

the foundation of these statements are.

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Well, you're basing a Motion

for Summary Judgment on these statements; therefore, I

have the right to cross-examine her about it and that's

what I'm doing.

10

I want to know --

MR. KENDRICK:

Certainly, but again, as I

11

stated, all she can testify as she sits here today is

12

what she recalls sitting here today.

13
14

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

the basis for this is in this deposition, then --

15

THE WITNESS:

16

the lawsuit.

17

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

18

Well, if she can't recall what

We're in a litigation; I mean,

I know we're in a lawsuit and that's why I'm

19

entitled to know what the basis for this statement is in

20

paragraph "18.".

21

basis for it.

22

I don't believe that there is any

Are you aware of any documents that you've ever

23

seen showing that Danni Sun or Frank Hickingbotham

24

issued a binding decision that there was no unreasonable

25

obstruction of Mr. Rezai's view?

Have you ever seen any

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documents that show that?

MR. KENDRICK:

THE WITNESS:

If you recall.
No.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Did somebody tell you that?

Yes.

Who?

It's common knowledge in the community.

I'm asking you who told that to you then.

10

your statement is in paragraph "18.", is that based

11

solely on what people have told you?

12

Yes.

13

Okay.

14

What

So it's based entirely on hearsay,

correct?

15

No.

16

Well, if it's not based on hearsay then, what's

17
18
19
20
21
22

it based on?
MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object, that that

calls for a legal conclusion.


MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I'm entitled to know the basis

for her Declaration, Counsel.


MR. KENDRICK:

As based as to what she recalls

23

here today.

All she can testify to is what she recalls

24

sitting here today.

25

what the foundation for the statements contained in

The Declaration on its face states

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there are and as of the date it was signed.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

All right.

Ms. Morris, isn't it true that you

didn't write paragraph "18." and you don't have any

personal knowledge of the facts stated in paragraph

"18." and the information contained there is based

entirely on hearsay?

8
9

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object to that as

calling for attorney-client communications which are

10

privileged.

11

to anything I may have said to her, and I'm also going

12

to object again that the Declaration says on its face

13

what the foundation for the statements in there are and

14

all she can testify to here sitting here today is what

15

she recalls as she sits here today.

16

I'm going to instruct her not to answer as

If she testifies that she has no recollection

17

of it as she sits here today, then that is what she

18

would testify to, but I don't think you can harass her

19

and sit here and keep drilling her about whether she

20

has -- whether there's a factual basis for this when the

21

Declaration says on its face what the factual basis is

22

for it.

23

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

24
25

Okay.

Your counsel has placed his objection on

the record and now I'm entitled to an answer.

What's

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the answer?

2
3

I'm going on his advice of my counsel not to

answer it.

He didn't instruct you not to answer it.

Yes, he did.

MR. KENDRICK:

I only instructed you not to

answer as to anything I may have told you; however,

otherwise, to the extent sitting here today, if you can

recall anything about what's stated in paragraph "18.",

10

then you should answer Mr. Ettinghoff's question, if you

11

recall.

12

THE WITNESS:

13

MR. KENDRICK:

14

THE WITNESS:

I don't want to -Answer his question, please.


Well, I signed this document that

15

everything in here is true, so that's it.

16

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

17

I know you signed the document, ma'am.

I'm

18

trying to find out where the information came from; I

19

mean, this document was provided to you by your attorney

20

I assumed --

21

Uh-huh.

22

-- and you read it and you signed it, correct?

23

Yes.

24

Okay.

25

You didn't write paragraph "18.", did

you?
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MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object to this

whole line of questioning.

harassing the witness.

says.

that's -- that's the problem is the Declaration in and

of itself -MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

10

The Declaration says what it

If she sits here today and she can't remember,

You're just -- you're just

Okay.

Counsel, I'm --

-- states what the foundations

are.
MR. ETTINGHOFF:

-- I'm getting tired of this

11

and we're going to be here all day long, because you're

12

trying to base a Motion for Summary Judgment based on

13

paragraph "18." and, therefore, I'm entitled to know

14

whether or not she has any personal knowledge of the

15

facts stated in that paragraph.

16

If she has no personal knowledge of the facts

17

stated in paragraph "18.", I want to know right now and

18

then, because if she has no personal knowledge of it,

19

that paragraph is inadmissible and you know it, Counsel,

20

and I also think that this is, you know, frankly -- you

21

know, you filed a whole Motion for Summary Judgment

22

based upon a Declaration which obviously you prepared

23

which this witness had no input into preparing.

24
25

She has no personal knowledge of the facts


stated in this Declaration and, you know, unless she can
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show that she has personal knowledge of it, I'm going to

object to every single sentence in this Declaration that

she obviously doesn't have personal knowledge of and,

therefore, your Motion for Summary Judgment is going to

be denied.

MR. KENDRICK:

Are you finished?

All I'm

saying, for the record, is that all she can testify as

she sits here today is whether she recalls it or not.

You're asking her to state definitively whether

10

she has personal knowledge based on a Declaration that

11

she went through and signed months ago and all of a

12

sudden, you're demanding that -- you're harassing her

13

and demanding that she state personal knowledge, when

14

all she is able to testify to and all she's required to

15

testify to under the Code is what she recalls presently,

16

okay?

17

fine; however --

18
19

So if you want to attack the Declaration, that's

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I'm going to attack the

Declaration.

20

MR. KENDRICK:

21

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

22

MR. KENDRICK:

That's fine.
Okay.
However, on its face, it states

23

there's a foundation for this.

24

what's contained in here is true --

25

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She's testified that

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MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

-- as of the time she signed it.


Counsel, she's already

admitted she wasn't even on the board during the time

period when these events were occurring, okay, and --

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

That's fine.
-- and I'm entitled to know

whether she has personal knowledge of these facts or

whether they're just based on hearsay.

9
10
11

MR. KENDRICK:

Okay.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

So I'm going to ask the question again, ma'am:

12

Paragraph "18.", do you have any personal knowledge of

13

the facts that are stated in your paragraph "18." of

14

your Declaration which we've identified as Exhibit

15

number 4 or is the information contained in that

16

sentence based upon entirely what people have told you?

17
18

I'm not going to answer on the advice of my

counsel.

19

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

20

MR. KENDRICK:

Counsel, you might -You have to answer to the extent

21

that it doesn't involve something I said to you.

22

only have to answer to the extent that you have a

23

recollection sitting here today.

24

THE WITNESS:

25

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

You

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THE WITNESS:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Okay.

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Yes, yes.
-- Counsel?

Let's take a -- go off the record.


Sure.
Okay.

Is it stipulated we're

off the record now?

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

(Discussion off the record.)

Yes.
Okay.

10

(Recess from 11:20 a.m. to 11:25 a.m.).

11

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

12

I think before we went

on -- let's go back on the record.

13
14

Okay.

Ready?

Is that stipulated, Counsel, we're back on the


record?

15

MR. KENDRICK:

16

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Yes.
All right.

Before we went on

17

a break, there was a question pending and I'd like the

18

court reporter to read it back, please.

19
20
21
22

(Record read).
BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

All right.

So, ma'am, I'm going to ask you

again to answer that question now.

23

I don't remember.

24

That's your answer?

25

Yes.
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And just to be clear, you're not aware of any

documents such as minutes or letters or correspondence

or any other documents which show that Danni Sun and

Frank Hickingbotham issued a binding decision that there

was no unreasonable obstruction of Mr. Rezai's view?

I'm not aware of those.

Not aware?

Did not see them.

You've not seen any documents that show that,

10

correct?

11

No.

12

Let's go to paragraph "20." in your

13

Declaration.

14

ARC's binding determination that his view was not

15

unreasonably obstructed did not satisfactory Mr. Rezai,

16

the successor ARC, which by then included the Mr. Rezai,

17

myself and Mr. Crossley, undertook to grant variances to

18

the individual homeowners.", all right?

19

True.

20

Okay.

21

I'll read it into the record, "When the

You have personal knowledge of this in

paragraph "20."?

22

Yes.

23

And the reason why you have personal knowledge

24
25

is because you were on the board when this occurred?


A

Yes.
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And just to go back to paragraph "18.", isn't

it true that you were not on the board when the facts

that are described in paragraph "18." took place?

Correct.

Why did you as a board member or a member of

the ARC decide to grant variances to the individual

homeowners?

8
9
10

MR. KENDRICK:

extent that calls for a disclosure of anything that


might have occurred in executive sessions of the board.

11

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

12

executive session.

13

answer to it.

14
15

18
19

I don't care if it occurred in

I'm still entitled to know the

MR. KENDRICK:

You can go ahead and answer, if

you know.

16
17

I'm going to object to the

THE WITNESS:

Because they asked for them.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

And we're speaking about Michael Crossley and

Hans Khademi and the Hickingbothams; is that --

20

Yes.

21

So they asked for a variance for their palm

22

trees?

23

Yes.

24

All right.

25

And you decided that you should

give them a variance?


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Yes.

And why did you decide that they should get a

variance for their palms?

MR. NAPOLES:

Point of clarification,

Counselor, are you asking her individually or

collectively for the board or what?

that it's vague as to what -- are you seeking her

personal knowledge and personal motives or the entire

board of directors?

10
11
12

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I guess I'll object

Well, let's go into both.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

I mean, did you have a discussion with the

13

other board members or the architectural committee

14

members about these palms that were existing on the

15

Crossley, Khademi and Hickingbotham properties?

16

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object to the

17

extent that calls for a disclosure of something that may

18

have occurred in executive sessions of the board.

19

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Counsel, you know as well as I

20

do that just because something happens in executive

21

session doesn't mean that it's not admissible.

22
23
24
25

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm making my objection for the

record, Counsel.
MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Okay.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
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Did you understand my question?

Ask it again, please.

Did you discuss with any other board members or

architectural committee members the issue about granting

variances to these homeowners for the palms on their

property?

MR. KENDRICK:

Answer it, if you can.

THE WITNESS:

10
11

The objection stands.

Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

And did you decide as a board member yourself

12

or an architectural committee member that you should

13

grant variances to them for the palm trees?

14

Yes.

15

What is the reason why you felt that they

16

should be entitled to a variance for the palms?

17

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object to the

18

extent that calls for some kind of disclosure of

19

something that's privileged by the executive privilege

20

of the board of directors.

21

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

22

of the board of directors.

23

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

24
25

There's no executive privilege

I'm asking you why you personally wanted to

grant a variance to Mr. Crossley, Khademi and the


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Hickingbothams for their palms.

To protect their trees.

Okay.

protection then?

Uh-huh.

"Yes"?

Yes.

Okay.

So you felt that the palms needed

And did you know at the time when you

granted these variances for the palms, that the CC&R's

10

required trees to be maintained no higher than the

11

height of their roofs?

12

Palms are not trees.

13

So it's your position then, that the CC&R's

14

have never prohibited palms from being higher than the

15

rooflines; is that what your position is?

16

Ask the question again, please.

17

Is it your position then, that the CC&R's have

18

never prohibited palms from exceeding the heights of the

19

roofs?

20

Yes.

21

Is that the reason why you granted a variance

22

for the palms, because you didn't feel that a palm is a

23

tree?

24

Yes.

25

All right.

So you believe, your personal


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belief then is, is that the people who are homeowners in

Harbor Pointe should be allowed to grow palms as high as

they want then?

Yes.

What if a palm tree blocks somebody's view of

the ocean, do you still feel that they should be able to

grow it as high as they want?

8
9

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object that calls

for speculation, incomplete hypothetical.

10

Answer it, if you know how.

11

THE WITNESS:

12
13

Yes, yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

So it's your opinion then, that even if a palm

14

blocked somebody's view of the ocean, they should be

15

able to grow it as high as they want?

16

Yes.

17

So as far as you're concerned as a board member

18

and the architectural committee member, homeowners are

19

not required to trim palms even if they block somebody's

20

view?

21

According to your definition of trimming.

22

I'm just asking you the question.

23
24
25

Is that

your -A

Every -MR. KENDRICK:

Counsel, I'm also going to


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object that you're not putting any time frame on your

question here, because as of today there is an amendment

in effect that has not been invalidated by a court in

the CC&R's that says that palms are exempt from any

height limitation.

So to the extent your question calls for what

she thinks here today, I'm going to object that the

question misstates the requirements of the CC&R's.

Now, if you want to ask her a question about

10

what she thought before the amendment to the CC&R's took

11

effect, I can see that question, but as of today there

12

is no requirement in the CC&R's that palms be subject to

13

any ridgeline height requirement.

14

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Well, that wasn't my question.

15

My question was whether or not she feels -- well, let's

16

break it down into the time frame.

17

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

18

Before the CC&R's were purportedly amended, did

19

you feel that homeowners had the right to grow palms as

20

high as they wanted even though they blocked people's

21

views?

22

Yes.

23

And why is that?

24

'Cause it's their property; I mean --

25

So you don't think the CC&R's protect the views


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at Harbor Pointe then?

Yes.

How do you believe the CC&R's protect people's

4
5
6
7
8

views?
A

Required to trim the trees below the ridgeline

of the homes and the shrubs.


Q

But according to your opinion, a palm is not a

tree, right?

Correct.

10

Okay.

So you believe that views are protected

11

from obstruction by trees, but they're not protected by

12

an obstruction caused by palms; is that your testimony?

13

MR. KENDRICK:

Counsel, I'm going to object

14

that you're misstating what it says in the CC&R's and

15

governing documents which state that --

16

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

17

MR. KENDRICK:

18
19
20
21
22

I'm not misstating anything.


-- which state that there can

be -MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I'm just trying to find out

what her opinion is.


MR. KENDRICK:

-- which state that there can be

no unreasonable blocking of a view.

23

When you make a question to her and it says

24

unqualifiably that no view can be blocked, I believe

25

that misstates the governing standard under the


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governing documents.

2
3

MR. ETTINGHOFF:
reporter --

MR. MORRIS:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. MORRIS:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

10
11

Answer it.

Okay.

Please.
-- and then we'll talk about

Would you, please, read back the pending


question.
(Record read).

15

THE WITNESS:

17

-- question --

the reasonable standard next then.

14

16

-- read back my -Shhh.

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

12
13

Well, let me have the court

Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

All right.

Let's talk about the language in

18

the CC&R's that talks about unreasonable obstruction of

19

views then.

Are you familiar with that --

20

Yes.

21

-- paragraph?

22

Based on your interpretation of the CC&R's I

23

guess now existing as they are after they've been

24

purportedly amended then, is it your belief, ma'am, that

25

palm trees may exceed the height of a roofline even if


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they unreasonably block the view of another homeowner?

Is that a question?

Yes.

It's very frustrating.

please.

6
7

Do you understand the question?

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I'll have her reread it back

to you.
(Record read).

THE WITNESS:

11

Say it again,

Repeat it.

10

No.

Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Why do you believe that people should be

12

allowed to maintain palms on their property that

13

unreasonably block the view of other homeowners?

14

Can you ask the question again?

15

Why do you believe that people in Harbor Pointe

16

should be allowed to maintain palms on their property

17

that unreasonably obstruct the view of other homeowners?

18
19

Why do I believe?

the developer.

20

Any other reason?

21

They're beautiful.

22
23

Because they were planted by

With no palms, we would

look -- our property values would be gone.


Q

Okay.

So there's two reasons why you believe

24

that the palms are okay even if they unreasonably block

25

somebody's view:

One of them is that they were planted


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by the developer; the other one --

Uh-huh.

-- is that you believe they're beautiful,

right?

Yes.

Let's go to the first reason about the palms

being planted by the developer.

8
9

What information do you have about what palm


trees were planted by the developer?

10

There are pictures that show the palms.

11

That are planted by the developer?

12

Hm-hmmn.

13

Have you seen them?

14

Hm-hmmn.

15

"Yes"?

16

THE REPORTER:

17

THE WITNESS:

18
19
20

"Yes"?
Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Are there any pictures showing that the

developer planted palms on Michael Crossley's property?

21

I don't know.

22

Are there any pictures that you've seen showing

23

that the developer planted palms on the Hickingbotham

24

property?

25

I don't know.

I don't know about that.


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Are these pictures that Michael Crossley showed

Yes.

Okay.

you?

Now, in your paragraph "20." of your

Declaration, you indicate that the successor ARC which

included yourself, Mr. Rezai and Mr. Crossley undertook

to grant variances to the individual homeowners.

8
9

Now, it was your decision to grant Mr. Crossley


a variance for his palms, correct?

10

Correct.

11

And can you tell me who voted for that variance

12

to be granted to Mr. Crossley, other than you?

13

I don't remember.

14

Well, did Mr. Rezai vote in favor of granting a

15

variance to Mr. Crossley for his palms?

16

I don't remember.

17

Did Mr. Crossley vote on that issue with regard

18
19

to the granting of a variance to himself?


A

20

I don't remember.
(Exhibit 5 was marked for identification

21

by the Certified Shorthand Reporter, a copy of

22

which is attached hereto.)

23
24
25

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

All right.

Let's mark -- we'll mark this next

exhibit as number -- I think we're on 5.


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I'm going to ask you to take a look at what

we've marked as Exhibit number 5.

For Landscape Variance which was recorded with the

Orange County Recorder on December 11, 2013.

This is an Agreement

Do you recognize this document?

Yes.

Can you tell me who prepared it?

No.

Is that your signature on page 3 of this

10

document?

11

Yes.

12

Did any other person on the board or the

13

architectural committee approve this variance for

14

Mr. Crossley, other than you?

15

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object to the

16

extent that calls for disclosure of something that may

17

have occurred in executive session of the board.

18

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

19

MR. KENDRICK:

20

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

21

MR. KENDRICK:

22

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Counsel -I'm just objecting --- stop making --- for the record.
-- stop making frivolous

23

objections.

24

objection what happened in executive session.

25

You know that she -- that's not a proper

MR. KENDRICK:

I can make any objection I want.


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She -- I'm not instructing her not to answer, Counsel.

I'm making a record.

record.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

5
6

Okay.

Don't harass me in making my

You're required to answer the question,

ma'am.

Do you remember the question?

No.

Did any other person, other than you, that was

10

on the board or the architectural committee approve this

11

variance that was granted to Michael Crossley?

12

No.

13

When you approved this variance that was

14

granted to Michael Crossley for the palms on his

15

property in December of 2013, were you aware that the

16

palms that are on his property were not planted by the

17

developer?

18

I -- I don't know.

19

Has anybody ever told you that the palms on

I don't recall.

20

Michael Crossley's property were planted by the

21

developer?

22

No.

23

Well, your previous testimony was that you had

24

two reasons why you thought it was appropriate to grant

25

these variances:

One was that the palms were planted by


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the developer and the other reason was that they're

beautiful, right?

Hm-hmmn.

That's a "yes"?

Yes.

You don't have any information available to you

that shows that the palms on Michael Crossley's property

were planted by the developer, do you?

I don't remember.

10

Have you ever seen anything that proves that

11

the palms on Michael Crossley's property were planted by

12

the developer?

13

Michael has pictures, but I don't recall.

14

You don't recall if they show that his palm

15

trees were planted by the developer?

16

No.

17

Okay.

Then is it accurate to say then, that

18

the only reason that you granted the variance to

19

Michael Crossley is that you think his palm trees are

20

beautiful?

21

I think they're beautiful, yes.

22

Did you ever go to Mr. Rezai's property before

23

you granted this variance in December of 2013 to see

24

whether or to what extent Michael Crossley's palms were

25

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No.

So you don't have any opinion about whether or

not Mr. Rezai's view is being unreasonably obstructed by

Mr. Crossley's palms?

MR. KENDRICK:

Counsel, I'm going to object,

that that might misstate the testimony.

She previously

testified that she had been to his property at some

point in the past to look at his view and I'm not sure

of exactly what the time frame she testified as to, but

10

I don't know if it's clear whether it was before the

11

granting of the variances or after the granting of the

12

variances.

13

clarified.

14

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

15

So I think the question needs to be

Well, when you granted this variance, you

16

signed this variance on December 10th, 2013, according

17

to --

18

Correct.

19

At that time, in December of 2013, did you have

20

any opinion about whether or not the palms on

21

Mr. Crossley's property unreasonably blocked the view

22

from Mr. Rezai's property?

23

No.

24

I'd like you to look at page 2 of this Variance

25

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ask you to read this page here where -- especially the

fourth paragraph where it talks about this meeting of

the board on December 3rd, 2013, where it talks about a

request by these owners for an architectural variance

and also for a determination that the existing palms do

not unreasonably obstruct other owners' views.

Do you see that language in there?

Yes.

And do you see the sentence where it says,

10

"Owners request was approved by the majority of the

11

Board."?

12

Yes.

13

Okay.

14

request, right, for Mr. Crossley?

15

Yes.

16

Okay.

17

You were the only one that approved this

So when you say "majority of the Board",

do you mean just yourself?

18

Yes.

19

Do you think that one person out of -- how many

20

people were on the board at this time?

21

Three.

22

And you think one person out of three is a

23

majority?

24
25

MR. KENDRICK:
conclusion.

That calls for a legal

I'm going to object to that.


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BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I'm just asking for your opinion.

3
4

Do you think one person out of three is a


majority?

5
6

Did you read this document, ma'am, before you


signed it?

Of course.

All right.

Then my question stands:

think that one person out of three is a majority?

10

MR. KENDRICK:

Again, I'm going to object that

11

calls for a legal conclusion.

12

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

13
14

17

Please answer the question, ma'am.

Is one

person out of three a majority?

15
16

Do you

When there's only one person that can sign it,

So what you meant to say was that out of the

yes.

18

three people who were on the board, "I'm the only person

19

who can sign it and, therefore, I approve it"?

20

MR. KENDRICK:

21

for a legal conclusion.

22

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

23
24
25

I'm going to object that calls

Well, one person out of three is not a

majority, is it?
MR. KENDRICK:

Again, that calls for a legal


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conclusion.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Same objection.

Okay.

Then let's look down further on page 2

here where it talks about the "VARIANCE AGREEMENT".

going to ask you to read that paragraph to yourself

under paragraph "II." where it states that -- and I'll

read it into the record, "It is further agreed that

after consideration of the binding decision made by the

previous Board of Directors in 2012, the existing palms

10

on the Lot do not constitute an unreasonable view

11

obstruction under Section 10.08 of the CC&R's."

12

I'm

Do you see that sentence?

13

Yes.

14

Now, you just told me a little while ago that

15

you didn't have any opinion when you signed this

16

document about whether or not those palms unreasonably

17

obstructed Mr. Rezai's view, right?

18

MR. KENDRICK:

19

misstates her testimony.

20

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

21

I'm going to object, that that

Didn't you just testify a little while ago,

22

ma'am, that you didn't have any opinion at the time when

23

you signed this document whether or not the palms on

24

Mr. Crossley's lot unreasonably obstructed Mr. Rezai's

25

view?
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Yes.

Okay.

But in this Variance which is a recorded

document --

Hm-hmmn.

-- recorded with the Orange County

Recorder's --

Right.

-- office which you've signed now on

December 10th, 2013, you're making a statement in

10

writing which has the legal effect that Mr. Crossley, I

11

assume, wants and that is, is that you're granting him a

12

variance and the reason why you're granting him a

13

variance is because you do not believe that those palms

14

constitute an unreasonable view obstruction.

15

MR. KENDRICK:

That completely misstates the

16

evidence and what this document says which you just read

17

into the record.

18

completely misstates what you just read into the record,

19

and I'm just going to object, that that misstates the

20

evidence.

21

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

22
23
24
25

Okay.

It completely -- your question

Ma'am, do you think that it's prudent as

a board member to sign documents which are not true?


MR. KENDRICK:

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just harassing the witness and -- and -74


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MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

She just testified, Counsel --- giving insulting --- that she had no opinion and

she had no basis for making an opinion because she had

not even seen Mr. Crossley's palm trees from Mr. Rezai's

property.

She's admitted in this deposition already she

can't recall when the last time that she was at

Mr. Rezai's property; it could have been more than five

10

years ago.

11

She did not go to Mr. Rezai's property to

12

determine whether or not these trees had been trimmed by

13

Mr. Crossley or what effect they had on his view and

14

yet, on December 10th, 2013, she alone, acting in her

15

own capacity as a board member of the Harbor

16

Pointe-Newport Owners Association, granted a variance to

17

Michael Crossley for his palm trees and she stated in

18

writing in that Variance that the reason why the

19

variance was being granted to him is that the palms did

20

not unreasonably block Mr. Rezai's view.

21

MR. KENDRICK:

Counsel, you're misstating what

22

it says.

It says, "It is further agreed after

23

consideration of the binding decision made by the

24

previous Board of Directors in 2012, that the existing

25

palms on the Lot do not constitute an unreasonable


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obstruction under Section 10.08 of the CC&R's."

So you are conflating her opinion, her personal

opinion, which was testified to in a different context,

with this statement in this recorded document which

states the basis for the decision on its face.

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Okay.

develop this further then.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Good.

Then let's

Are you saying, ma'am, is it your testimony

10

here today that you granted Michael Crossley a variance

11

for his palm trees and you did not have any opinion at

12

the time when you granted this about whether his

13

trees -- whether his palms unreasonably obstructed

14

Mr. Rezai's view?

15

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object, that that

16

misstates everything, her testimony and this document.

17

She never testified that she made this decision based on

18

her opinion, and it states in here that she -- that the

19

decision was based on consideration of the binding

20

decision of the prior board.

21

that you're misstating the evidence.

22

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

23

Okay.

So I'm going to object

Then is it your testimony, ma'am, that

24

the reason why you gave Michael Crossley a variance for

25

his palms is based upon the binding decision made by the


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previous board that the palms do not constitute an

unreasonable view obstruction?

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object that the

writing, the document speaks for itself.

it says in there; however, I don't think that that

necessarily precludes her also having her own personal

opinion as to what she felt at the time that she signed

the document.

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

That is what

Well, she's already testified

10

that she didn't have any opinion about whether or not

11

the palms obstructed Mr. Rezai's view.

12

So now I'm trying to find out, is it the reason

13

why she granted the variance based upon this alleged

14

binding decision that was made by a previous board.

15

MR. KENDRICK:

16

the document speaks for itself.

17

document.

18

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

I'm just going to object that

I'm entitled to know why she

19

granted this variance, Counsel.

20

MR. KENDRICK:

21

It's a recorded

She gave you her testimony as to

her opinion and the document itself speaks for itself.

22

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

23

MR. KENDRICK:

24

You can answer the question, if you have some

25

All right.
I'm going to object.

other answer than what you've already given the guy.


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2
3

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Ms. Morris, is it your testimony that you

granted Michael Crossley a variance for his palms --

Yes.

-- based upon the binding decision made by the

previous board that those palms do not unreasonably

block Mr. Rezai's view?

Yes.

And I've asked you this before, but I'll ask it

10

to you again:

11

shows that the previous board made such a binding

12

decision?

Have you ever seen any document that

13

MR. KENDRICK:

14

THE WITNESS:

15

MR. KENDRICK:

16

THE WITNESS:

17

That you recall.


Hmmn?
If you recall.
I do not recall.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

18

19

that?

20

No.

21

Did somebody tell you that the previous board

22

You don't recall seeing any documents like

had made such a binding decision?

23

MR. KENDRICK:

24

THE WITNESS:

25

Again, if you recall.


I don't recall.

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2

Did you ever speak to Danni Sun or to

Frank Hickingbotham about that subject?

No.

You mean you signed this Variance and had it

recorded with the Orange County Recorder's office --

Uh-huh.

-- in December of 2013 and you never even asked

the people who supposedly granted this -- or who made

this binding decision, you never even asked them whether

10
11

they, in fact, made that decision?


A

Well, for your information, Danni Sun had a

12

horrible heart attack and she has been in terrible shape

13

since being on the board with him and --

14

MR. KENDRICK:

Let's just confine yourself to

15

his question.

16

told by anybody that there --

17
18

If you have any recollection of being

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

That's the wrong question,

Counsel.

19

MR. KENDRICK:

20

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

-- was this binding decision.


No, with it -- Counsel, the

21

question that's pending right now is whether she ever

22

spoke to either Danni Sun or Frank Hickingbotham who

23

were the people on the board that supposedly made this

24

binding decision that Mr. Rezai's view was not

25

unreasonably blocked.
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2
3

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

My question to you is:

Danni Sun or Frank Hickingbotham about that decision?

MR. KENDRICK:

THE WITNESS:

6
7
8

Did you ever speak to

If you recall.
I don't recall.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

You know, ma'am, I -- you're entitled to listen

to the coaching by your attorney --

Hm-hmmn.

10

-- as much as you want --

11

Hm-hmmn.

12

-- but I want to caution you right now that if

13

you say that you can't recall something right now, when

14

this case goes to trial in September or October or

15

whenever --

16

Uh-huh.

17

-- it's scheduled to go to trial, if the

18

association asks you to be a witness or if you're called

19

as a witness in the trial and you testified at your

20

deposition here today that you don't recall, then if you

21

try to change your testimony later on, it's going to

22

look --

23

MR. KENDRICK:

Counsel, I'm going to stop you

24

right here from harassing the witness. You gave your

25

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MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

Counsel -You're threatening the witness

and she's entitled to her counsel's offer of that.

7
8

You gave your admonition at the

outset.

I'm not harassing her.

MR. ETTINGHOFF:
the witness.

I'm reminding her now and I'm --

MR. KENDRICK:

10

Counsel, I am not threatening

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

You're harassing her.


-- warning her that if she

11

bases -- she's following your hints on how to answer all

12

my questions.

13

about how she should answer my questions and each hint

14

that you give her, she's following your hints.

15

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

16

You keep on throwing in all these hints

I'm just warning the witness, that by following

17

your counsel's hints to answer that you don't recall,

18

that at the trial of this matter, if you try to testify

19

differently than other than you recall, then anybody,

20

any of the attorneys or the parties can ask you why you

21

couldn't recall it here at your deposition when you're

22

under oath, but then all of a sudden at the trial you

23

recall something.

24
25

MR. KENDRICK:
your admonition.

Are you finished?

You've given

Continue with your questioning,


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please.

2
3
4

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Okay.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Now, at the time when you granted this variance

to Mr. Crossley in December of 2013, the CC&R's had not

been amended yet to exempt palms from the height

requirement; is that correct?

8
9
10

I don't remember the sequence.

I don't

remember; I really don't.


Q

Now, in addition to this variance that you

11

signed for Michael Crossley for his palms in December of

12

2013, you also granted a variance to the Hickingbothams

13

and to Mr. Khademi for his palms; is that correct?

14

Correct.

15

And is it also true that you didn't have any

16

information to determine at that time in December of

17

2013 whether or not the palms on Mr. Khademi's property

18

unreasonably blocked Mr. Rezai's view?

19

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm going to object, that that

20

misstates the evidence.

21

variances state what's stated in this variance, it

22

completely states the basis for the decision, so --

23

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Assuming there's other

Well, I'm entitled to know

24

whether or not she had any observation of the effect of

25

Mr. Khademi's palms in December of 2013 when she granted


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the variance to Mr. Khademi and that's what I'm trying

to find out.

MR. KENDRICK:

Well, if you wanted to ask her

about an observation, you should have asked her about an

observation, because your question was just simply that

it had no basis and obviously, you know, there are two

different things there, so --

8
9

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

reporter read back the question, please.

10
11
12

(Record read).
BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

13
14

All right.

You can answer that question.

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

18

THE WITNESS:

20

It

I'm asking her if she had any

information.

17

19

I'm going to object.

calls -- it misstates the content of the document.

15
16

No, I -- let's have the court

Go ahead and answer it.


No.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

All right.

So you granted a variance to

21

Mr. Khademi for the palms on his property in December of

22

2013, but you didn't have any personal knowledge at that

23

time when you granted that whether or not those palms

24

unreasonably blocked Mr. Rezai's view; is that true?

25

Yes.
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2

Would the same question be true with respect to

the Hickingbothams' palms?

Yes.

All right.

So you didn't have any personal

knowledge in December of 2013 when you granted a

variance to the Hickingbothams for their palms as to

whether or not those palms unreasonably blocked --

Correct.

-- Mr. Rezai's views?

10

And at that time, when you granted this

11

variance in December of 2013 to Mr. Crossley, to

12

Mr. Khademi and to the Hickingbothams, you were not on

13

the title to any of the lots in Harbor Pointe; is that

14

correct?

15

I don't recall.

16

Well, let me show you what we've previously

17

marked as Exhibit -- I think it was Exhibit 1.

18

MR. KENDRICK:

19

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

20
21
22

Yeah, it was 1.

Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Do you recall that the date that your husband

put you on title with him was on March 12th, 2014?

23

Okay.

24

All right.

25

The deed.

So going back to my question then

is, isn't it true, that in December of 2013, when you


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granted these variances to Mr. Crossley, to the

Hickingbothams and to Mr. Khademi, you were not on title

to any lot in Harbor Pointe?

I was not aware of that.

MR. NAPOLES:

I'm going to object to the extent

it misstates her testimony and assumes facts not in

evidence.

variances were granted by the board of record with

respect to Mr. Khademi and Ms. Hickingbotham.

You said "You granted the variances".

10

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

11

MR. NAPOLES:

12

second -MR. ETTINGHOFF:

14

MR. NAPOLES:

Sure.

-- and I'm not trying to be

difficult, Tracy.

16

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

17

THE REPORTER:

18

MR. NAPOLES:

19

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

20

Well --

Let's go off the record for a

13

15

That's fine.
Off the record?

Yeah.
Yeah, okay.

We'll go off the

record.

21

(Discussion off the record).

22

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Well, let's go back on the

23

record, and I'll try to rephrase the question.

24

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

25

The

In December of 2013, when these variances were


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granted to Michael Crossley, to Mr. Khademi and to the

Hickingbothams, you were not on the title to any lot in

Harbor Pointe; isn't that true?

True.
MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Okay.

Counselor, it's noon.

Do you want to take a lunch break now and then come back

in about an hour?

8
9

MR. KENDRICK:

How much longer do you expect to

be questioning the witness?

10

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

11

THE WITNESS:

12

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

13

THE WITNESS:

14

MR. KENDRICK:

15

hours.

How long?

Well, we've been at it for two

Do you want a lunch break?


MR. MORRIS:

17

MR. KENDRICK:

18

MR. CHAPLIN:

19

MR. ETTINGHOFF:
everybody?

Yeah.
All right.

We'll go to lunch.

Coming back at one o'clock?


Yeah.

Is that all right with

There's a number of restaurants --

21

MR. KENDRICK:

22

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

23

Halfway done.

Crap.

16

20

Well, I'm about halfway down.

I'm fine.

Yeah, that's fine.

-- right within a block of

here, so -- okay.

24

(Lunch recess from 12:04 p.m. to 1:14 p.m.)

25

MR. KENDRICK:

Proceed.
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MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Okay.
you ready?

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

10

13

-- husband?
Yes.
That's all right?

Okay.
Are

Referring back to your Declaration which

we've marked as Exhibit number 4, do you have that?

11
12

Okay.

Yes.

Let's go back on the record then.

Without her --

MR. KENDRICK:

I have that here.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

I'd like you to look at paragraph "23." of your

14

Declaration.

15

CC&R's to exclude palms from the height requirements in

16

the CC&R's, correct?

17
18

This is regarding a proposal to amend the

MR. KENDRICK:
"23."?

19

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

20

MR. KENDRICK:

21

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

22

MR. KENDRICK:

23
24
25

No, I'm not sure -- paragraph

Yeah.
"Ballots were distributed..."?
Right.

This is about --

Oh.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

I'm talking about this meeting that took place

on January 23rd, 2014.

That was the meeting that was


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held to count the ballots for the proposed CC&R's to

exclude palms from the height requirement, correct?

Correct.

And you attended that meeting?

Yes.

You were on the board at that time?

Yes.

But on that date, January 23rd, 2014, you were

9
10

not yet on the title to any property at Harbor Pointe,


correct?

11

Yes, correct.

12

Now, you state in paragraph "23." that,

13

"Ballots were distributed to the members and on

14

January 13" -- excuse me -- "January 23rd, 2014, 15

15

votes, or 75 percent, were cast in favor of amending the

16

CC&R's to exempt palms from any height limit."

17
18

Did you personally do anything to verify the


authenticity of any of the ballots that were cast?

19

I don't know what you mean.

20

Did you -- I'm just trying to find out if you

21

did anything to determine whether or not the ballots

22

that were cast, the ones that were counted, whether they

23

were actually signed by the homeowners who they were

24

supposed to be signed by.

25

The management company handles all of that.


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But you didn't do anything personally, though?

No.

3
4

MR. ETTINGHOFF:
another exhibit now.

All right.

I'm going to mark

I think we're on 6?

MR. KENDRICK:

(Exhibit 6 was marked for identification

Yeah.

by the Certified Shorthand Reporter, a copy of

which is attached hereto.)

9
10
11

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Okay.

I'm going to show you what we're going

to mark as Exhibit number 6.

This is a copy of some --

12

(Document handed to counsel).

13

MR. NAPOLES:

14
15

Thanks.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

-- envelopes that were returned with the

16

ballots in them at that meeting on January 23rd, 2014,

17

and I'm going to ask you to look at the lower envelope

18

and in the upper left-hand corner of that, it says

19

"Harbor Pointe Newport Owners Association, number 25

20

Harbor Pointe", and then beneath it, it looks like your

21

signature.

22

Is that your signature on the envelope?

23

Yes.

24

Who was on the board at the time when this

25

meeting took place, other than you, on January 23rd,


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2014?

(Indicating).

Mr. Rezai?

I think so.

And who else?

Michael Crossley and myself.

Okay.

So there was only three people on the

board?

Yeah.

10

Mr. Rezai was one of them, you were one of

11

them --

12

Yes.

13

-- and Michael Crossley, and were you aware at

14

the time at that meeting, that Michael Crossley had been

15

sued by Mr. Rezai about his palm trees?

16

Yes.

17

And the issue that was put to the membership at

18

that meeting is whether or not the CC&R's should be

19

amended to exclude palms from the height requirement in

20

the CC&R's, correct?

21

Correct.

22

And did you feel that Mr. Crossley had the

23

right to vote on that as a board member on behalf of the

24

association given the fact that he was --

25

Yes.
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You felt that he had the right to --

Sure.

-- vote on that?

Yes.

What --

MR. KENDRICK:

Excuse me, Counsel.

I want to

object that you're saying he had the right to vote on

it.

the CC&R's or a vote -- I don't even know if there was a

Are you talking about the vote as a member to amend

10

vote subsequent to that.

11

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

12

MR. KENDRICK:

13

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

15

background of this.

16

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

18

I'm not sure what vote you're

talking about where he had the right to vote.

14

17

Well --

Okay.

Let me go into the

The association foreclosed on 25 Harbor Pointe

previously, right?

19

Right.

20

And that was because that homeowner didn't pay

21

their dues?

22

Correct.

23

Okay.

24
25

And so at the time of this meeting then

the association owned one house in the project, right?


A

Correct.
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Okay.

Correct.

Okay.

That was 25 Harbor Pointe, correct?

And so at that meeting, you and

Michael Crossley decided to cast a vote for number 25

Harbor Pointe regarding the CC&R amendment, correct?

Yes, correct.

And between you and Michael Crossley, you

decided to vote in favor of the CC&R amendment, correct?

Correct.

10

Okay.

11

And did Mr. Rezai vote on that issue as

a board member?

12

I don't recall.

13

Now, my previous question was in regards to

14

Mr. Crossley's vote, not as a homeowner, but as a board

15

member with regard to the CC&R amendment, okay?

16

My question to you was:

Did you feel that

17

Mr. Crossley had the right to vote on the CC&R amendment

18

on behalf of the board given the fact that he was a

19

defendant in the lawsuit and the CC&R amendment directly

20

affected his palms?

21

Yes.

22

You felt that he had the right to vote on that?

23

Absolutely.

24

You didn't feel that he had certain -- a

25

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No.

All right.

I think you testified earlier this

morning that until this Complaint was served on you

regarding the issue about you being on the title, that

you were not aware that you were not on the title to

your house; is that what you testified to?

Correct.

During previous elections when you were elected

to the board by the membership, do you have any

10

information that would show that any of the other

11

members who voted for you were aware that you were not

12

on the title to your property?

13

No.

14

I'm going to ask you now to go back and look at

15

your Declaration on paragraph "27.".

16

Well, first, let's look at paragraph "26.".

17

says, "On March 12, 2014, I was added to the title for

18

my home as a trustee of the Hal Morris Companies VEBA

19

trust."

20

It

Then I'd like you to look at paragraph "27.",

21

and I'll read that into the record also, "At general

22

meetings in June 2014 and September 2014, the members

23

were given a report on the instant litigation, including

24

the fact that the Plaintiff alleges that I was not

25

qualified to be a director."
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Now, at these meetings that occurred in June of

2014 and September of 2014, you were already put on the

title to your lot, right?

Correct.

So you were reelected in September of 2014 to

the board, correct?

Correct.

Okay.

9
10

But at that time when you were reelected

and at the general meeting in June of 2014, on both of


those occasions you were already added to the --

11

Correct.

12

-- title to your property, right?

13

Right.

14

Okay.

Now, in the next several paragraphs, you

15

talk about examples when Mr. Rezai served with you on

16

the board of directors for many years and you talk about

17

different occasions when Mr. Rezai voted with you on

18

certain association business matters.

19

Are you aware of any information which would

20

lead you to believe that Mr. Rezai was aware that you

21

were not on the title to your property when he was

22

serving with you on the board?

23

I'm not aware of any, no.

24

Let's look at paragraph "33." of your

25

Declaration concerning Mr. Hickingbotham.


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Are you aware now that Frank Hickingbotham was

not on the title to any of the lots in the Harbor Pointe

community in 2013?

I'm aware now.

Yeah, that was my question:

Yes.

In your Declaration, you state that, "While on

Are you aware now?

the Board, Mr. Rezai also transacted Association

business with Mr. Hickingbotham without complaint, ...".

10

My question to you is:

Are you aware of any

11

facts which shows that Mr. Rezai was aware that

12

Mr. Hickingbotham was not on the title to his property

13

when Mr. Rezai served on the board with him?

14

I'm not aware.

15

All right.

Now, let's go down to paragraph

16

"39.".

17

is that after you were reelected to the board in

18

September of 2014, the new board which consisted of you,

19

Mr. Crossley and Marshall Friedman started to review all

20

of the transactions that Mr. Rezai has questioned,

21

correct?

I believe that the gist of your Declaration here

22

And you state in paragraph "39.",

23

"Specifically, the Board ratified the ARC's binding

24

decision of no unreasonable view obstruction of 21

25

Harbor Pointe Drive."; do you see that?


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Yes.

So when you decided to ratify this previous

decision, did you take any further steps to determine

whether or not Mr. Rezai's view was unreasonably

obstructed?

I don't recall.

You didn't go to his house to look at it

yourself, did you?

No.

10

And you didn't contact Danni Sun or

11

Frank Hickingbotham to ask them about that binding

12

decision?

13

I did not.

14

And you didn't see any documents that showed

15

that they had made such a binding decision, correct?

16

I don't remember.

17

So what were you basing your decision on to

18

ratify the previous decision that the board had

19

made -- well, you were one of the persons that granted

20

those variances in the first place, but why did you

21

decide to ratify those previous decisions that you had

22

made as you state here in paragraph "39."?

23

It was the right thing to do.

24

Don't you feel as a board member that you have

25

a duty to other homeowners to go to their home and see


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2
3
4

if they've got a view problem that's -A

The decision was already made by the previous

board.
Q

Well, I asked you previously whether you ever

asked Danni Sun or Frank Hickingbotham about that and

you said "no", right?

7
8

We had just talked about it.

We had talked

about it, yes.

You and Danni Sun and Frank Hickingbotham?

10

Yes.

11

I've asked you several times whether you talked

12

to them about it and you said "no".

13

Are you changing your testimony now?

14

Yes.

15

Okay.

16

So you have discussed that issue with

Frank Hickingbotham or Danni Sun?

17

Yes.

18

Which one did you talk to about it?

19

I don't remember.

20

And so either Danni Sun or Frank Hickingbotham

21

told you at some point that they had made a binding

22

decision that Mr. Rezai's view was not unreasonably

23

blocked?

24

Yes.

25

And do you recall the timing of that?


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No.

All right.

I do not recall.

Did either Danni Sun or Frank Hickingbotham

show you any documents regarding this binding decision?

I don't remember.

All right.

Do you know what the timing of this

ratification was of the previous architectural committee

decision?

10

I don't remember.

11

Do you recall it happening?

12

Yes.

13

Was it at a regular board meeting or an

14

executive session meeting or what?

15

I don't remember.

16

Do you remember where this meeting took place?

17

No.

18

In paragraph "41." of your Declaration, I'd

19

like you to look at that.

20

ratified all actions of the Board and its directors in

21

connection with the members' January 23rd, 2014 vote to

22

amend the CC&R's to exclude palms from any height

23

limitation."

24
25

It says, "The Board also

Are you saying that the new board consisting of


you, Michael Crossley and Marshall Friedman re-ratified
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the vote that you had made with Michael Crossley to cast

that vote in favor of the CC&R amendment; is that what

you mean by this?

4
5

MR. NAPOLES:
please.

THE REPORTER:

THE WITNESS:

MR. NAPOLES:

10

12

Sure.
To the best of my knowledge,

that's what I remember.

11

Can you read me that back,

That's all right.

(No record read).


BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

Do you know if the architectural committee has

13

any criteria that they use to determine whether

14

somebody's view is unreasonably blocked?

15

The CC&R's.

16

Well, what I mean -- I know that the CC&R's

17

talk about unreasonable view obstructions, but what I'm

18

trying to find out is whether or not your board or in

19

your architectural committee, do they have any kind of

20

criteria that's either in writing or not in writing that

21

they use to determine whether somebody's view is being

22

unreasonably blocked?

23

I don't -- I don't recall.

24

Like for instance, let me just give you some

25

examples.

Do you have any kind of a policy at


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Harbor Pointe that says that only ocean views are

protected or only views straight out from the back of

your house are protected or only views from the

downstairs of your house are protected or only views

from the upstairs are protected?

policies in those types of regards?

Do you have any

I don't recall.

Has there been a discussion on the board or the

architectural committee about which views in

10

Harbor Pointe should be protected and which views should

11

not be protected?

12

No.

13

That's never been discussed?

14

No.

15

Do you know if Marshall Friedman went to

16

Mr. Rezai's property to see whether his view was being

17

unreasonably blocked?

18

I don't know.

19

Did you have any discussion with

20

Marshall Friedman about Mr. Rezai's view?

21

To my knowledge, we did not discuss it.

22

Is Marshall Friedman your next-door neighbor?

23

Yes.

24

And does Michael Crossley live across the

25

street from you?


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Yes.

Your street that you live on is the lowest

street in the --

Right.

-- community, correct?

Correct.

Do you have an ocean view from your property?

(Indicating).

Small one?

10
11

Is your ocean view between Michael Crossley's


house and number 3 Harbor Pointe?

12

Oh, no.

13

Where is your ocean view located at then?

14

It is between MacArthur and Michael's house.

15

Oh, okay.

16

To the right of Michael Crossley's

house as you're looking at it?

17

Yes.

18

And are there any trees that are blocking your

19

ocean view?

20

I never think about that.

21

All right.

22

Do you have any type of a view over

Michael Crossley's house?

23

No.

24

You can't see the ocean --

25

No.
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-- over his house?

We're the same level.

Yeah, I didn't know the -- where --

I mean, we're not up.

Well, is your house a two-story house?

Yes.

From your second story, do you have a view of

All right.
We're same --

We're the same.

the ocean over Michael Crossley's house?

A little bit.

10

When we started today, your counsel provided me

11

with a copy of a landscaping variance that looks like

12

for your property.

13

at that.

14

copy.

15

I'm going to ask you to take a look

I haven't copied this yet, but we'll get a

I'm going to ask you to take a look at that.

16

Okay.

17

Are you familiar with this document?

18

Yes.

19

And let's see.

20

This is a variance for the

palms on your property?

21

Yes.

22

And when did you ask the board or the

23

architectural committee to give you a variance for the

24

palms on your property?

25

Around the same time.


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In December of 2013?

Hm-hmmn.

All right.

MR. KENDRICK:

THE WITNESS:

6
7

Is that a "yes" or "no"?


Yes.

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

And at the time when this variance was granted

for your palms on your property in December of 2013, who

was on the board at that time?

10

Michael Crossley and, (indicating).

11

Mr. Rezai?

12

Hm-hmmn.

13

And you?

14

Hm-hmmn.

15

Okay.

16

Yes.

17

I'm sorry.

18

Yes.

19

-- she doesn't understand what that means.

So -- that's a "yes", right?

When you say "hm-hmmn" --

20

So there were only three people on the board in

21

December of 2013 consisting of you, Michael Crossley and

22

Mr. Rezai?

23

Yes.

24

And was the vote to grant you a variance, was

25

that done at a regular board meeting?


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I don't recall.

Were the homeowners notified that the board was

going to meet to discuss granting variances to you and

Michael Crossley at this meeting?

I don't recall.

Were there any homeowners present at that

meeting when that decision was made to grant you a

variance and Michael Crossley, other than you and

Mr. Crossley?

10

I don't remember.

11

Was Mr. Rezai present at that meeting?

12

I don't remember.

13

Why did you ask the board for a variance for

14
15
16

your palm trees?


A

To keep from getting the frivolous lawsuit that

everybody else has been having to suffer through.

17

So you wanted to exempt --

18

Protect our property, yeah.

19

Has anybody complained about your trees?

20

No.

21

So it was just a preventive measure so that if

22

somebody doesn't like your palm trees, you can show

23

them, "Well" --

24

Correct.

25

-- "I was granted a variance"?


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Yeah.

Okay.

But the only person that approved that

variance was Michael Crossley, correct?

Correct.

Mr. Rezai did not vote in favor of granting you

6
7

a variance, did he?


A

I don't remember.

8
9

MR. NAPOLES:

Can we go off the record for a

second?

10

(Discussion off the record).

11

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Let's just go back on the

12

record and I'll some questions.

13

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

14

Ms. Morris, there was a list of documents in

15

the Notice of Deposition that I wanted you to produce if

16

you had possession of them and I'm just going to ask you

17

some questions about some of those documents.

18

Are you aware of any minutes of any board

19

meetings which showed that the board determined that the

20

palm trees on the defendants' individual lots do not

21

unreasonably obstruct Mr. Rezai's views?

22

No.

23

Are you aware of any minutes of any

24

architectural review committee meetings which show that

25

the architectural committee determined that the palm


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trees on the defendants' individual lots do not

unreasonably obstruct Mr. Rezai's views?

I'm not aware.

Did you have any communications with

Marshall Friedman by e-mail or by letter concerning the

variances for the palm trees?

MR. KENDRICK:

I'm just going to object to the

extent that that might include communication with

counsel between the board members.

10
11
12

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:
Q

you and Mr. Friedman.

13
14

No, this would only be communications between

MR. KENDRICK:

That's fine.

that.

15

THE WITNESS:

16

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

17

(Document handed to counsel).

18

MR. NAPOLES:

19

MR. KENDRICK:

20

That's his clerk copy.

21

BY MR. ETTINGHOFF:

22
23

You can answer

I'm not aware of any.


All right.

Thanks.
There you go -- oh, wait.

Did you have any communications directly with

Mr. Friedman about the CC&R amendment?

24

I'm not aware of any.

25

Are you aware of any documents which show that


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Danni Sun and Frank Hickingbotham issued a binding

decision that there was no unreasonable obstruction of

Mr. Rezai's view?

4
5
6
7

The management company handles all those

documents.
Q

Okay.

You don't have possession of any

documents like that?

I do not.

And just to be clear, is it the best of your

10

recollection, the last time that you were at Mr. Rezai's

11

house was approximately five years ago or maybe more

12

than five years ago?

13

To the best of my recollection, yes.

14

And so you don't have any opinion as we sit

15

here today about whether his view is unreasonably

16

obstructed, other than the information that's been given

17

to you by Danni Sun and/or Frank Hickingbotham?

18

I'm not asking for any information from your

19

counsel; in other words, whether -- I'm not asking for

20

that.

21

information?

22
23

I'm just asking:

Are you aware of any other

The ARC was binding; I mean, I'm not

second-guessing anybody.

I don't want to --

24

Okay.

25

I accept their decision.

So your -- you don't --

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2

And but the -- but you don't have an opinion

about it yourself then, other --

I do not.

-- than what's been told to you by somebody

else?

I do not.

Okay.

All right.

MR. KENDRICK:

10

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

11

MR. KENDRICK:

Yeah.
Okay.

We'll mark this --

He's just taken these.

We've

taken ours, so --

13
14

We've got these

copies now?

12

Let's see.

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Okay.

So this is going to be

number --

15

MR. KENDRICK:

16

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

17

(Exhibit 7 was marked for identification

7.
-- 7?

18

by the Certified Shorthand Reporter, a copy of

19

which is attached hereto.)

20

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Okay.

For the record, we're

21

marking the Agreement For Landscape Variance that was

22

granted to Mr. and Mrs. Morris in December of 2013 as

23

Exhibit number 7, all right?

24

Okay.

25

MR. KENDRICK:

You've already got a copy of this?


Yes, I do.

Thank you.

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2

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Did you get a

copy?

MR. NAPOLES:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. NAPOLES:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

This is 7.

I did.
You've got one?

I've got one.


Okay.

Do you have any

questions?

8
9
10
11

EXAMINATION
BY MR. NAPOLES:
Q

Ms. Morris, my name is Steven Napoles.

12

represent Georgia Hickingbotham and Hans Khademi in this

13

lawsuit.

14

ma'am --

I just have a couple questions for you,

15

Okay.

16

-- and I'll do my best to keep it short.

17
18

Were you a member of the board of directors in


December of 2013 for the association?

19

I don't know.

Let's see.

20

Let me ask you this:

Do you recall attending a

21

board meeting where the issue of a variance for

22

Mr. Khademi and Ms. Hickingbotham was discussed?

23

I don't recall.

24

MR. NAPOLES:

25

MR. KENDRICK:

I've got nothing further then.


We also still have Chris from
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Worthge's office.

2
3

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

do you have any questions for Connie Morris?

MR. CHAPLIN:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

10

Do you have -- on the phone,

I have no questions.
Okay.
Can we take a break?
Yeah, just let's go off -Okay.
-- the record for just a

minute.

11

(Recess from 1:42 p.m. to 1:52 p.m.).

12

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

13

I'm finished asking questions

unless anybody else has any questions.

14

MR. KENDRICK:

15

MR. NAPOLES:

16

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

No.
No.
Let's stipulate that the court

17

reporter can be relieved of her duties under the Code of

18

Civil Procedure, and that when the transcript is

19

ready -- do you want it forwarded directly to your

20

client or to you?

21

MR. KENDRICK:

22

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

It can be sent to me.


Okay.

So the original, when

23

it's ready, you can send it to Chris Kendrick of the

24

counsel's -- I mean, the witness' counsel, and you'll

25

have your client review the transcript and make any


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changes that are necessary and notify all other

attorneys in the case within ten days from the date that

you receive the transcript of any changes; is that all

right?

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. KENDRICK:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Sure.
Okay.

And --

So stipulated.
Well, wait.

Let me put the

rest of it on the record; that I guess you'll -- you

10

want to maintain custody of the original, and then if

11

any --

12
13
14

MR. KENDRICK:
like.

I can return it to you, if you'd

I had ordered a copy already.


MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Oh, okay.

Then why don't

15

you -- you'll return the custody of the original to my

16

office after --

17

MR. KENDRICK:

18

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

19

Yes.
-- it's been read and signed

by your client --

20

MR. KENDRICK:

21

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Correct.
-- and that if for any reason

22

the original transcript is not available for any

23

evidentiary hearing in this case, that a certified copy

24

of the deposition can be used for any purpose.

25

MR. KENDRICK:

So stipulated.
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MR. NAPOLES:

Okay.

Tracy, you'll make the

original available upon reasonable request for such

purposes?

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

MR. NAPOLES:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

Counsel for Worthge, is that --

MR. CHAPLIN:

MR. ETTINGHOFF:

10
11

Yes, I will.

So stipulated.
Okay.

So stipulated.
Okay.

All right.

That's it

then.
(The deposition was concluded at 1:45 p.m.)

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I hereby declare under penalty of perjury that

the foregoing is my deposition under oath; are the

questions asked of me and my answers thereto; that I

have read same and have made the necessary corrections,

additions or changes to my answers that I deem

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