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5EMA hilo system, and EA Idea

dbeach777

FirstPost:Dec18,200811:13pm | EditedDec26,200811:27am

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Firstofall,IwanttothankSterlingforintroducingmetothe5mahilochannelsystem.Ihavechangedafewthings,moreto
mystyle,andcomfortlevel,andwithlessrisk.
Theideaistoputa5emahigh,anda5emalowonachart,anytimeframeyouwant,andthisformsachannel.Whenprice
movesoutofthechannel,welookforcandlesfullyormostlyoutsidethechannel.Iprefersmallrangecandlesandnottoenter
thetradeifthesetupcandlegoeshalfwayintothechannel...weneedroomforittomove.Abreakofthatcandleinthe
opositedirectiontriggersanentry.Stoplosswouldbe1pipaboveorbelowthesetupcandle.Profittakingisupfordiscretion,
butusuallyitatleastreachestheoppositechannel.Ifcountertrendingonemightthentakefullprofits,iftrendtradingpartial
profitscouldbetakenwithSLsettobreakeven.aslongascandlesgointheprofitdirection,stayinthetrade,onceareverse
candle,orsetupismade,thenclosethetradeandreversewithpropersignal.Ilookforfollowthroughandmomentum.Ifafter
2or3barsyou'restillnotinprofit,itmightbeagoodideatoexitbeforeyourSLgetshit.Inmostcasesyou'llseefollow
throughonthenextcandleafterentry.
Ihavefoundthatwhilenoteverytradeisprofitable,thatmanyare,especiallywhenwelookforcandlesoutsideofthemedium
range,preferablysmallrangecandles,atthetoporbottomofaswing,soourSLissmaller.Alsotherearetimeswhenthis
systemworksgreat,andothertimesinextremetrends,ortightrangesitdoesn't,butIhavethisideathatsomeonewithgood
codingabilityandpeoplesideasforprofitabilitythatfinallyaprofitableEAcouldbecoded.Anytakers?I'mnotacoderyet,
althoughI'mevertemptedtolearn.
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dbeach777

Dec19,20088:23pm

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Here'sascreenshotofthelastcouplehourstoday,on6pairs,M15....highprobability,lowrisksetupsforsomepips.I'm
surprisedthismethodhasn'tsparkedanyinterestorresponse.....Isitmywinningpersonalityorwhat?
AlthoughIalsouseothertradingmethods,mostlypriceactionrelated,Ialsokeepaneyeonthissystembecauseofthehigh
probabilityofshortrange(smallSL)islandtypecandlesontheswinghigh/lows
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dbeach777

Dec19,20088:44pm

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Orthisone,ontheH1AUDUSDPair
SomeofthesesignalsarentidealforwhatIlookforastheSLisbigenough,buttheywould'vebeengoodforsomepips.Some
ofthesesignalsarenoneothertheninsidebars,andplentyofpeopletradethebreakofthese...Ilikesmallinsidebarsin
conjunctionwithpinbars,toindicateareversalisprobable.
Here'sthetemplateIuseifanyoneisinterested
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Bemac

Dec19,20089:06pm

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WillALWAYSlooklikea'Tunnel'YoucouldhaveTraded.
ProblemisthattheMAisbeingPlottedAfterPriceFluctuationmovesit.

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ie.ItisaHistoricRepresentation.
Q.Howdoyouutilizethatinfoto"Predict"thefuture.
A:MeasureSlope.{butSlopeisbynomeansaguaranteeofsuccess.}
Inotherwords
ThePricecannotescapeyourH/LMA'sbymuchasyouarerecalculatingthemevery5Bars.Isuggestpayingattentiontothe
Slope{steepness}ofyourMA'smayimproveyourquest.

dbeach777

Dec19,20089:16pm

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Thisistrue,toanextent,butonceacandleisclosed,thatmovingaveragevaluewon'tchange..Itradethebreakofclosed
candlesoutsidethechannelidealy,oratleastontheouterbandofthechannel,andyes,agoodangleonsomethinglikeema
60mightindicatethatatrendisinaction,butema5issoshorttermthatitcangofromangletoflatinveryshorttime,thus,
myreasoningisthatifanentirecandlecanformoutsidethischannel,ormostlyoutsidethisfast,movingaverage,thenbreak
theopositedirection,thatpricehadmovedtofast,toofar,andmaysnapbacktomediumatleast,orpossibleevenreverse....I
haveprofitednicelyfromtradingthisbutyouareabsolutelyright,it'smucheasiertopickoutthewinnersafterthefact.
Imaystartpostingsomeofthehighertimeframe,A1typesetupsifIseethemdevelope
ThanksforyourinputBemac!

frugal

Dec20,200812:49pm

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Dec21,20088:40am

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|JoinedNov2008

heybrothanksforsharing..itseemsinterestingandplainsystem!
illtrythisfollowingdaysespatUJpair..

frugal

cce

|JoinedApr2007

Hi,
ThissystemremindsmeofDeanMalone'sSynergy.However,heusesaHeikenAshisetupwiththe5ema's.
IlikeyourapproachofattackingthepotentialturningpointonthePA.
Haveyoutriedthisonthe1mor5mTFwithsuccess?
Thanksforsharingyourmethod.
Cliff

Quotingdbeach777

Thisistrue,toanextent,butonceacandleisclosed,thatmovingaveragevaluewon'tchange..Itradethebreakof
closedcandlesoutsidethechannelidealy,oratleastontheouterbandofthechannel,andyes,agoodangleon
somethinglikeema60mightindicatethatatrendisinaction,butema5issoshorttermthatitcangofromangle
toflatinveryshorttime,thus,myreasoningisthatifanentirecandlecanformoutsidethischannel,ormostly
outsidethisfast,movingaverage,thenbreaktheopositedirection,thatpricehadmoved...

dbeach777

Dec21,20081:20pm

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I'llcheckoutDeanMalone'sSynergysystem,Ihaven'treadaboutityet.
CheckouttheEUM1chartabove
TheM1andM5timeframesarenotasacurateatM15andup,asittendstogetchoppyquicker,buttherehavebeentimes
whenI'vetradedM1andM5withthissuccesfully,butithelpstoknowsomethingmoreaboutmarketactionlikeSupportand
Resistence,pricereactiontocertainmovingaverages,PPZetc...thatswherediscretioncomesintoplayandthatssomething
youcan'tcodeintoanEA.TheidealsetupasI'vesaidbeforeiswhenastrongcandlemovesfar,outofthechannel,thenthe
nextcandleissmall,(setupcandle)thenthenextcandlebreaksbackintothechannel...Youcan'tknowwhethertheywillwork
outornotastheyaredeveloping,butthegoodthingisR/R,astheSLgenerallyissmallerthenpotentialpipgain,and,more
setupsworkout,thennot...
Anotherchart........checkoutthecandlesmarkedwitharedcheckmarkthatdidn'tworkout.

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Hi,
ThissystemremindsmeofDeanMalone'sSynergy.However,heusesaHeikenAshisetupwiththe5ema's.
IlikeyourapproachofattackingthepotentialturningpointonthePA.
Haveyoutriedthisonthe1mor5mTFwithsuccess?
Thanksforsharingyourmethod.
Cliff
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dbeach777

Jan2,20097:15pm

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I'mstillwaitingtoseeifanyonewantstoprogramanEAforthissystem....???
Rulesare,setupbarsmustbeatleast75%outsideofthechannel...entertradesonabreakofthesetupbar,towardsthe
channel,butonlyifthebreakhappensonthenextbar,StopLosswillbe2pipsmorethentherangeofthesetupbar,Take
Profitwillbemultichoice,withfirsttakeprofiteitherasetamountofpips,oratouchofoppositesideofthechannel.
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Blazer

Jan3,20095:42am

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Aloalo,
Maybeyoushouldtrythetsdmaniacs,lol

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Cheers
B
Learnsomethingdifficultandearnrealmoneyforever,alot.

Corre

Jan3,200910:08am

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Jan3,200910:54am

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|JoinedJun2008

Quotingdbeach777

Isitmywinningpersonalityorwhat?

lol?

LaTeCoMeR

|JoinedOct2008

I'mstillwaitingtoseeifanyonewantstoprogramanEAforthissystem....???
Rulesare,setupbarsmustbeatleast75%outsideofthechannel...entertradesonabreakofthesetupbar,towardsthe
channel,butonlyifthebreakhappensonthenextbar,StopLosswillbe2pipsmorethentherangeofthesetupbar,Take
Profitwillbemultichoice,withfirsttakeprofiteitherasetamountofpips,oratouchofoppositesideofthechannel.

ThisismorelikeDeanMalone'sSymertricsystemforPAonutube...

kingpippin

Dec19,20105:02am

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|JoinedOct2010

Helloeveryone,
Justwonderingifanyoneisstillusingthissystem,ifsohowlongandwhatareyourresultslike!
KingPippin

dbeach777

Dec19,20101:27pm | Editedat1:40pm

I'mstillverymuchinterestedinthissystem,butIalsoconsiderthatthereareotherviablereasonstoentertrades,liketrend
linebreaks,S/Rbreaks,and60emabreaks,asortoffloatingS/Rline.Thekeyalsoseemstobethatitsnotasignalunlessthe
highorlowofthesetupbararebroken.Thepresenceofdivergenceseemstomakeitabettersignalbutnotalwaysnecessary.
TakingprofitsisdiscretionarybutaminimumTPlevelseemstobeatouchoftheopposite5emahilochannel.Idon'ttakethis
asastandalonesystem,butaddittomytoolsoftradingtogivemethatedge.Letsrevivethisthreadandupdaterealtime
Setups.
Cheers,andaHappyHolidayseasontoall!
p.s.thesetupbar(pinbar)justbeforethetrendlinebreak,neverbrokethehigh,soatradewouldn'thavebeenentered,and
thusaloseavoided

Quotingkingpippin

Helloeveryone,
Justwonderingifanyoneisstillusingthissystem,ifsohowlongandwhatareyourresultslike!
KingPippin
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SteveHopwood

Dec20,201010:07am

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Haveaplaywiththisone.
Thebotisprogrammedto:

1. spotaclearbreakoutofthechannelbythepreviouscandleithastobothopenandcloseoutside
2. breakoutlong:waitforthemarkettoretracebelowthelowofthesetupcandlethensell
3. breakoutshort:waitforthemarkettoretraceabovethehighofthesetupcandlethenbuy
4. ifStopLossisleftatzero,stopis1pipabove/belowthehiloofthesetupcandle
5. ifTakeProfitislefttozero,tpistheoppositeMA.Inanycase,thebotwillclosethetradeattheoppositeMA,solongas
thetradeisinprofit.Thisfunctioncanbemadeauseroptionifyouchoose
6. MaxCandleLengthisthemaximumsetupcandlelength.Thedefaultof20ispureguesswork
7. therearetheusualmptmstylemanagementfeatures.Ifunfamiliarwithmptm,theuserguideisavailableinthethread
linkinmysignature
8. thebotautomaticallyaccommodatespipsinputstoxdigitcriminals,soentertheseinproperpips
Thebotkeepsontakingabathinbacktesting.Onforwarddemo,ithastaken4tradesontheEUM1chart,withthreeofthem
beingsuccessful.Iwouldnothaveexpectedthis.
Icancodemostthingsthesedays,sosingoutifyouwouldlikefurtherrefinement.

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azjeff

Dec20,201010:17am

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Steve,
Anything?
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Regards,
Jeff
QuotingSteveHopwood

Haveaplaywiththisone.
Thebotisprogrammedto:
[list=1][*]spotaclearbreakoutofthechannelbythepreviouscandleithastobothopenandclose
outside[*]breakoutlong:waitforthemarkettoretracebelowthelowofthesetupcandlethensell[*]breakout
short:waitforthemarkettoretraceabovethehighofthesetupcandlethenbuy[*]ifStopLossisleftatzero,stopis
1pipabove/belowthehiloofthesetupcandle[*]ifTakeProfitislefttozero,tpistheoppositeMA.Inanycase,the
botwillclosethetradeattheopposite...

SteveHopwood

Dec20,201010:32am

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Iguy/galmakingfunctioncomingup.

luna2010

|JoinedNov2010

I'vebeentryingtogetsomethingalongtheselinestoworkonRenkochartsratherthantimebasedcharts.Theintentwould
bemoretowardstradingwiththechannelinthedirectionofthetrendandusingtheouterchannelasthetrailingstop.TodayI
wastryingasimpleMAcrossoverEAonRenkobuttheBuyandSellordersdon'texecutewhentheconditionsaremet.Avery
simplesystem,anditworksfineontimebasedcharts.Itjustwon'tcooperatewhenappliedtotheRenkocharts.
I'mrunningthe"RenkoLiveChart"EAona5mintimebasedcharttocreatetheRenkochartusingtheEURUSD,M2offline
chart(File>OpenOffline)andthenapplythe"MovingAverage"EAtotheRenkochartdirectly.
TheRenkochartupdatesinrealtimejustfine.Itjustwon'texecuteanyoftheMovingAverageEAtrades.
Cansomeonesaywhetherthe5EMAhilosystemwillworkonRenko.
IstheresomereasonthatEAscan't/won'texecuteonRenkocharts?
Thanks
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