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By Norah Carlin, Socialist Workers Party, UK

First published March 1985 Reprinted January 1986 by the Socialist Workers Party
PO Box 82, London E3. Typeset by Kate Macpherson Photosetting (TU), Clevedon,
Avon. Printed by Laneridge Limited (TU all depts), London E3.
IT IS SOMETIMES SAID that women have always been oppressed by men, that the
antagonism between men and women has its origin deep in human psychology or
biology, and that the way women suffer in our society is nothing but the same old
story that has been going on ever since human life began.
This is such a pessimistic view that it is hard to understand why it is so popular with
feminists today. If women are put at a disadvantage by human nature itself, how can
we ever change things? Either an all-out war against men could lead to men being
forced to change their ways without changing their basically anti-women ideas; or a
few women could separate themselves off from the rest of society and be free in a
sense; or the human race could be destroyed by women refusing all co-operation with
men. None of these conclusions can be very appealing for the majority of women.
On the other hand, the view that women are oppressed simply because men (and most
women too) have the wrong ideas about women can be too optimistic. Liberating
women is seen as just a matter of persuasion and education, of explaining to men that

they have got it wrong and that they really should share the housework and the top
jobs because it would be more fair.
History shows that all ideas can change: none are so deep-rooted in human nature that
nothing can be done about them. But they can't be changed by persuasion, by the light
of reason alone, because ideas depend on material relations between human beings.
The idea that black people are inferior, for example, belongs to societies that exploit
black people, either as slaves or as cheap labour. To get rid of the idea once and for all
we have to get rid of the system that produces the idea. This doesn't mean that we
can't argue or organise against racism here and now, but it does mean that persuading
people that they have the wrong ideas is only the first step to getting rid of the society
that is responsible for them.
The idea that women are inferior comes from societies that are divided into classes,
where one set of people control the labour of others and enjoy wealth and power as a
result. Our own capitalist society is far from being the first society divided into
classes, though we hope to make it the last. In ancient Greece and Rome, slaves were
exploited by slave-owners, in Europe in the middle ages lords lived off the labour of
serfs on the land, and there have been variations of these societies at other times and
places. With the rise of manufacture and the Industrial Revolution, those with wealth
to invest as capital found new ways to make profits out of wage-earning men and
women. In all these forms of society, women have been oppressed.
But there have been, even in quite recent times, societies that were not divided into
classes, and where women did not have an inferior position. These were the societies
we call primitive, where there was no production other than the gathering of wild
plants and hunting of wild animals. Nowadays, most of these societies have been
affected by contact with European traders, rulers and missionaries, who have changed
their ways of life. But when white men first came into contact with most of the native
tribes of North America, Australia and the Pacific islands, these were societies without
classes and in which women were as strong and as powerful as men.
When production was simple and population low, women's role as the bearers of
children was important and respected. Though men and women might have their
separate tasks and rituals, women as well as men took part in the most important
decisions, such as whether to move a settlement or make war on another band or tribe.

Couples might live together with their children, but sexual relations were more free
and separation easier than in later societies.
When production increased, agriculture appeared, and flocks and herds of animals
were kept for food and wealth (for fields and cattle were the first forms of private
property), class divisions began to appear. Men of wealth could make others work for
them, buy slaves and take advantage of others' poverty. They began to own wives, too,
like cattle, and pass on their wealth to their male children. As Engels argued a hundred
years ago, in The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State, the oppression
of women began when class society began.
Many of the details of Engels' case have been challenged or corrected by
anthropologists (most of whom have been male and have worked for imperialist
powers--which gave them a vested interest in challenging him). But his basic
argument still stands. The oppression of women is not universal; women are strong
and equal in societies with simple production and no class divisions; all societies must
have started out like this.
No one could really wish for the whole of humanity to return to this primitive state:
the vast majority of people alive today would be wiped out by hunger and disease.
Equality for women in the future would have to be based on the full capacity of
modern science and technology to fulfil human needs--a capacity that today is largely
wasted by the capitalist system, with its drive for profits and lunacies such as nuclear
weapons. Women could be strong and free in such a future society because of their
role as producers and creators of all kinds, and not just because they bear children or
grub roots out of the ground--as they did in primitive society. But to achieve this, it is
necessary to get rid of class society.
History shows that there have been as many ways of keeping women down as there
have been class societies, and that the position of women has always been different for
different classes in the same society. This is important because it helps us to
understand the particular ways in which capitalist society oppresses women today and
the reasons why. History shows that there is no one 'natural' role for women.
Ancient Greece and Rome were slave societies. Slave women had no rights over their
own bodies at all: they could be sexually used by their master or sold to others, and
their children could be taken away from them and sold too. The masters' daughters, on

the other hand, were married off at an early age and closely confined to their homes to
show that they were of the slave-owning class--to be seen going to market, or washing
at the well, was to admit to the shame of not being able to afford slaves. Women
valued the respectability that slaveowning gave even though it meant many
restrictions for them. There were slave women who tried to pass themselves off as
free, but no free woman ever tried to become a slave.
In Europe in the middle ages, serfs tilled the land for the lord of the manor, but unlike
slaves they lived in families on their own plot of land and could pass the plot on to
their children. Serf women were obliged to marry serf men and reproduce the labour
force of the manor, and most of them lived in small households of one couple and
their children. Noble women lived quite differently, in large extended family
households, and when they were married (usually at an early age) they brought
property and valuable political connections into their husbands' families. As heiresses
or widows they often owned land and serfs, acting as lady of the manor in their own
right and keeping armed retainers to fight for them.
When the mass production of goods for the market began to spread in the sixteenth
and seventeenth centuries, these were at first produced in the homes of craftsmen and
cottagers, by women and children as well as by men. In these families, neither men
nor women went out to work, but produced goods at home for the merchant
capitalists. Production was so essential to them that babies were sent outside the
household to wet nurses almost as soon as they were born, cared for by servant girls
or older sisters when they were weaned and returned (if they survived), and sent out
again as apprentices and servants at any age from seven onwards. The bond between
parents and children must have been very different then from what it is now.
Meanwhile, the merchants' wives withdrew from the shop or warehouse into
comfortable homes with domestic servants to relieve them of work altogether. The
separation of work and home, men and women, into separate spheres had already
happened for these middle class families.
The industrial revolution of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries brought the
separation of work from home for the working class as well. At first it was women
and children who were drawn out of their homes and into the factories, followed by
the men as more of industry was mechanised. But women and children in the factories
worked in such appalling conditions of overwork and physical danger that working-

class people began to fight to defend the family as a place of refuge for women and
children, the sick and the unemployed.
Women, especially in the textile factory districts, often had to go out to work until
their children were old enough to take their place as the second wage-earner, because
men's wages were not enough to support a family. At the same time, conditions in
nineteenth-century industrial towns made heavy housework a necessity, and as there
were no alternatives for the sick, the very young and the very old but to be cared for in
the family home, women took on these duties too. No wonder they gave up factory
work to take care of the home whenever they could afford it. The demand for a 'family
wage' for men that would enable wives to stay at home and do the job properly (a
target which was hardly ever achieved as far as the majority of the working class were
concerned) was popular with women workers as well as with men--women cotton
workers on strike in Preston in 1854, for example, fully supported it.
In our own century, the role of working-class women has again changed dramatically.
About 60 per cent of all married women are now also working for wages. The typical
woman worker is no longer young or single but a married woman between the ages of
35 and 49. There are many reasons for the change, among them the decline of the
older heavy industries and the increase in services; inflation and the falling purchasing
power of men's wages (four times as many families would be below the poverty line
without the wife's wages); and the fact that people have fewer children in a shorter
time than before, and live longer after their children are grown up.
All this suits modern capitalism very well. It gives many industries a more flexible
labour force, for one thing. But it is also an advantage for working-class women. As
housewives, women are isolated, divided and dependent on men; they can fight the
system only in exceptional cases where the whole community is threatened, as in the
miners' strike of 198~5 or the Glasgow rent strikes of 1915. As workers, they begin to
have a chance to organise and act together, and by earning wages of their own they
gain a certain amount of self-respect and independence, even if not as the main
breadwinner. It has taken a long time for capitalism to bring women back into the
workforce in large numbers, after starting the process in the cotton industry in the
early nineteenth century, but in the long run that is the way it has been going. There is
no turning back, nor would most women wish it: a new age has begun for workingclass women as workers in their own right.

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