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Honda3D

About Deployment of Lightweight 3D Data in Honda


2014 JT Open International Conference
Tokyo, Japan
Sep 17-19
Takao Senko

Honda R&D Automobile,


Development Administration Division, CIS BL

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Agenda
About Honda

System outline
3D project in Honda

JT use case in Honda


JT for 3D Drawing
JT for L/O
Future Plan anout Light 3D
Expectation for JT Open

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Honda Motor

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Company Name:

Honda Motor Co., Ltd.

Head Office:

2-1-1 Minami-Aoyama, Minato-ku


Tokyo 107-8556, Japan

Tel:

81-(0)3-3423-1111(main)

Established

September 1948

President, CEO &


Representative
Director:

Takanobu Ito

Capital:

86 billion yen
(as of Mar 31, 2013)

Main Product:

Motorcycle, Automobile, Power


product

Fundamental - Respect for the Individual


Beliefs:
- The Three Joys
The Joy of Buying, Selling and Creating
Company
Principle:

Maintaining a global viewpoint, we are dedicated to


supplying products of the highest quality, yet at a
reasonable price for worldwide customer satisfaction.
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Honda Products

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Automobiles

Motorcycles

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Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Honda Products

Power
Products

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Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Honda Products & Motor Sports

Innovative Technologies

Motor Sports

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Honda Group Company

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

ales

Sale and
service

Honda Motor Co., Ltd.


How do we provide the Joy of each customer?
The joy of buying is achieved through providing
products and services that exceed the needs and
expectations of each customer.

Manufacturing
technology

Research and
development

Development

Engineering

Honda R&D Co. Ltd


Honda Access Co. Ltd

Honda Engineering Co. Ltd

How is manufacturing process evolved?


Creation of manufacturing process which
evolve product

How do we produce high-quality


products efficiently?
We create high-quality product timely
and efficiently.

Research and development of attractive product


from the future prediction include the trend of
advanced technology and life

What do we develop (what kind of products)?


Research:
New technology research to embody
as good product in the future

Development:
Development of attractive product

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Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Honda R&D Automobile

Honda R&D Co. Ltd


Supervisory
board
Duties
inspection

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Honda R&D Automobile R&D Center

The president
The board of
directors

Motorcycle
R&D Center
Automobile
R&D Center
Power Products
R&D Center

Tochigi

Aircraft engine
R&D Center
Fundamental
Technology
research center
Honda research
institute Japan
Honda R&D Sun
Co., Ltd.

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Saitama

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Honda R&D Automobile

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

HGW/T

UK

Moscow

Germany

Turkey

HRA-O
HRA-LA

Los Angels

India

Dubai

Columbus

HRM

Thai

Mexico

China

Malaysia
Indonesia

Brazil

South Africa

Market Research Only

Locally Procure

Product Development

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Styling Design

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Engine & Hybrid Engine

Wind tunnel

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Automobile R&D Center

Driving Control

Proving Ground

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Agenda
About Honda

System outline
3D project in Honda

JT use case in Honda


JT for 3D Drawing
JT for L/O
Future Plan anout Light 3D
Expectation for JT Open

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System Alignment

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Planning
Layout

Development
Plan

Preparation Mass production


Mass

Trial

MU

MU

Test

Test vehicle

DMU Verification
Systems in R&D

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Development Flow & Systems

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Insourcing Systems
ENOVIA eMatrix

NEWS(E-BOM+PDM)

DPM : Data Prototype Model


ENOVIA VPDM

DPM(DMU)

CATIA V5
ENOVIA VPM Navi + Folder File System

PDM ( CAD Data Management )


I/F
Systems in Honda Mortor

M-BOM

Insourcing Systems

Manufacture Verification

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Insourcing Systems
DELMIA

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Agenda
About Honda

System outline
3D project in Honda

JT use case in Honda


JT for 3D Drawing
JT for L/O
Future Plan anout Light 3D
Expectation for JT Open

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Changes of CAD data

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

80

90

2000

2010

Changes of CAD data

CADAM ( 2D )
CATIA ( 3D )

V2

V3

For Verification

3D data whole car


3D Shapes

VR

For Drawings

DMU

Digitization for
Drawings

DMU
Solid
Surface
2D Drawing

Wire Frame

Not only 3D Models


Attributes(Thickness, Material...)
and Structure

The importance of 3D is increasing in Honda.


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Expansion for 3D data

Effectivity of 3D data is
to frontload the schedule of development
3D data is expected for various area

Honda is also considering application for 3D Data.


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DMU Systems & Use case

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CATIA V5

DMU System

NEWS
NEWS

BOM
Info

Drawing

Meta Infor

Storage

3D

Work

Clearance

Appearance Verification

Manufacturing verification

Honda is using 3D CATIA data of whole a car


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Catalog/CM

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3D Drawing in Honda

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3D annotated model standardization WG

2D Master

3D Master
JAMA Here

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2D3D

Wire

R10

R10

2D

0T

3D annotated model standardization WG

3D

3D
2D

3D annotated model standardization WG

Drawing data is also replace


from 2D to 3D

Honda has examined 3DA


from the early stage of 3D data application

It is important to create digital data


from analog data in 2D drawing
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3D Drawings and Attributes

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Sealer Drawing

Under Body Coart

Body COMP (3DA+Auto 2D)


3DA

Management Info+
3D Dimension + 3D PMI
Auto
PLOT

2D Drawing

Designers create 3D Drawings with 2D Drawing information and more...


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Agenda
About Honda

System outline
3D project in Honda

JT use case in Honda


JT for 3D Drawing
JT for L/O
Future Plan anout Light 3D
Expectation for JT Open

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Whats Lightweight 3D Data?

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Whats merit for L3D

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Light

Easy

User can refer on low-spec PC

Viewer operation is easy,


because functions are limited to reference only

Cheap

Viewer is cheaper than CAD.


& some free viewers are exist.

Almost 3D data user can get big merit by using 3D lightweight data.
About CGR

CGR is used as Lightweight 3D for CATIA

Visualiztion Mode

When Load Models ...


-> CATIA uses CGR data
Design Mode

Light

Easy
Cheap

When Designer start editing


-> CATIA switches Design Mode and load native data

Lightweight 3D data is already used in Honda -> But there is not much merit...
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History of JT in Honda (and I)

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JT open history (Honda joined at )

2007

2008

2009

2010

2011

Nov I became the PIC of JT


Dec Decide JT for Drawing

2012

2014

Sep LPL Nagai is transferred to China.


Jan I became the PIC of other Project

Apr Start Project


Jan Enhancement for Compare

Apr Additional Enhancement

Drawing/LTA

2013

Oct Release

The Dark Ages for JT


- yet not breaking

-> Postpone because of data trouble


Mar Release
-> Postpone because of disaster
Research

Jul Release!!
Dec Start Project
Apr Enhance request
L/O

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Jul Release

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Agenda
About Honda

System outline
3D project in Honda

JT use case in Honda


JT for 3D Drawing
JT for L/O
Future Plan anout Light 3D
Expectation for JT Open

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Background : JT for 3D Drawing

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Motivation

We can read 3D Drawings 30 yaers later

2D

3D

MF

LTA

TIFF

LTA

MF

No way for LTA about 3D Drawings

2D Drawing can LTA according to MF or TIFF

We have to keep as 3D Drawing


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The policy of keeping 3D Drawing

We can keep by translating Open format

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Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

About JT File

We selected JT data in Dec 2007 -

Open format & High Accuracy

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Data form & Data transfer for 3D Drawings

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Designer

CIS

3D+2D

HM

Issue Data type

NEWS
Formal

Transfer

FORMAL

2D+3D

CATIA
3D

For Transfer

FORMAL

JTNo Brep

2D

For Storage
JTBrep

Spec Draw

REFER

TIFF

Error data are modified by CIS

Word
Manual

FORMAL

JTNo Brep

Spec Notice
Manual
Excel

PDF

3D Data in Drawings are translated JT data during issue process


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How to translate JT

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Fix

For Reference
JT Translator
Translate
Batch
immediately
COM-FOX
T-SYSTEMS

Vis Convert
Siemens

Batch
Translate
periodically

JTNo Brep

Drawing
Warehouse

For LTA

Register Jobs

Transfer

Trademark

JT Translator

Compare

Trademark

Storage
COM-FOX
T-SYSTEMS

ASFALIS
Elysium

Vis Convert
Siemens

Error data are modified by CIS

CAD Doctor (Elysium)

All 3D Data translate Brep JT and No Brep JT.


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JTBrep

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System Enhancement for Honda Drawings

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JT Translator

View Management
Stroked Font

Bottom View
COM-FOX
T-SYSTEMS

Symbols

Left View

Honda original feature, View Overlapping


Compare
CAD

Compare Elements

JT

ASFALIS
Elysium

NURBS

NURBS

We can compare JT(Brep) and CAD data

During development, there were no rules about translate & Compare


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JT in Drawing data

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

JT for Drawing

Viewer : JT2Go
All data have Trademark
Trademark is always displayed
on forefront side.

User refers JT(No Brep) from NEWS


NEWS(E-BOM)

old versions can be referred

JT (No Brep) is only opened for Users.


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Agenda
About Honda

System outline
3D project in Honda

JT use case in Honda


JT for 3D Drawing
JT for L/O
Future Plan anout Light 3D
Expectation for JT Open

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JT Data in Layout

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CATIA Storage

V5 Work

Work

VPM Navi

PRC Tree
Older work area
based on Folder

Work area related to the model


managed for Tree structure

VridgeRDIPRO
EWS

reference viewer for V5 work

Laptop

Designers edit and check


in CAD terminal

V5 Work
JT Translator

COM-FOX
T-SYSTEMS

*Launch Merge Model


*Large scale data
*Secutiry

JT data is used for VridgeR


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JT for VridgeR Data

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EWS
Edit/Save

V5 Work
Translate if modified

EWS
VPM Navi

Translate

Edit/Save

Search Navi data


from search panel

VridgeR
Warehouse
Refer

Download to V5 Work

Search JT data from VridgeR original panel


(If no JT data, translate immediately)

Refer to downloaded data

JT data is translated when data is saved or referred


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Security for JT data

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

VridgeR for Digital Safe

Honda site A

Honda site B

Carrying-out control

Carrying-out control

A.jt -> B.zip


Cannot rename

JT is launched from Honda systems


JT2Go cannot download JT data

Can refer under Honda network

Cannot attach to email

Supplier

VridgeR
When saved in Local,
data is enciphered
License key is needed

Cannot operate
without license key

Can refer with portable license in Supplier


& Honda data can be referred Honda VridgeR

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Agenda
About Honda

System outline
3D project in Honda

JT use case in Honda


JT for 3D Drawing
JT for L/O
Future Plan anout Light 3D
Expectation for JT Open

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Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Comparison with other OEM about Lightweight 3D data

About 7 years ago


Drawing

Honda
LTA

No Plan

Other OEM
Supplier

Drawing

LTA

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Supplier

Planning
Applied

L/O
DMU

CAE

Supplier

Planning from Drawing

L/O
DMU

CAE

Supplier

Planning from L/O, DPM

Current
Drawing

LTA

Supplier

Drawing

LTA

Supplier

L/O
DMU

CAE

Supplier

L/O
DMU

CAE

Supplier

Applied in Drawing and LTA


Planning in L/O& DMU

Applied in L/O & DMU


Applied Drawing and Supplier

The JT scope of Honda is restricted compared with the other OEM.


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Usage level for JT

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Lv.1
Visualization

Use 3D shape for Appearance


Drawing

Lv.2

JT

Facet Data

L/O
DPM

Use for Verification as Facet data (CGR)


L/O
DPM

CAE

Lv.3
Brep
Collaboration

Use for Verification as Brep data


LTA

Lv.4
Data
Exchange

L/O
DPM

Loop use supposing the Multi-CAD of CAD-JT

Each levels requires the different accuracy.


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CAE

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Application expansion for Layout

Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Not Applied
V5 Work

VPM Navi

Drawing
Warehouse

Work
PRC Tree

(1) How to translate Navi data to JT


(2)JT file management & security
Clearance

Appearance Verification

Manufacturing
verification

Catalog/CM

(3)JT to JT translate each accuracy for verification


JT file management
Examination
of the output
& security
for PDM information
We need to translate JT data to each accuracy JT data
-> JT
Usefile
AP242XML
are managed
to manage
in folderPDM
or PDM
information
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Agenda
About Honda

System outline
3D project in Honda

JT use case in Honda


JT for 3D Drawing
JT for L/O
Future Plan anout Light 3D
Expectation for JT Open

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Expectation for JT Open activity

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1. Improvement of JTTK
JT format is recognized ISO.
But, each Translator venders have original knowhow about data translation.
In the future, many company will use JT as exchange format instead of CAD.
Under this situation, the way to translate should be same.
Guideline of JT translation is needed.

Now, there are many application which can read JT data.


But, almost application translates original format during read process.
Improve JTTK API based on the request for software vebder.

2. STEP AP242XML read support in JT2Go


Not clear about the relationship between AP242XML and PLMXML
PLMXML should support AP242XML.
3. About JT Open in japan
Continue to hold periodically in Japan.

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Thank you for your attention.

Contact
Takao Senko
Email : takao_senko@n.t.rd.honda.co.jp
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