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Is illness sometimes a result of a sin? [closed]


Therearechildrenbornill,blindorhaveheartormentalissuesetc.
Butcananillnessbearesultofasin:
Ifachildisbornill,isitpossiblebecauseoftheparents'sins?
Ifsomeonebecomesill,isitbecauseofhissins?
John9
9Ashewentalong,hesawamanblindfrombirth.2Hisdisciplesaskedhim,Rabbi,whosinned,thismanorhisparents,thathewas
bornblind?
3Neitherthismannorhisparentssinned,saidJesus,butthishappenedsothattheworksofGodmightbedisplayedinhim.
Whythedisciplesaskedhimthisquestion?
Whatisthechristianviewinthismatter?
Update:
Thesepassagesmightshowarelationbetweensinanddiseases/illness:
WhenAbrahamhidthefactthatSaraiishiswife:
Genesis12:17
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17ButtheLordinflictedseriousdiseasesonPharaohandhishouseholdbecauseofAbramswifeSarai.
WhatGodsaidtoIsrael:
Exodus15:26
26Hesaid,IfyoulistencarefullytotheLordyourGodanddowhatisrightinhiseyes,ifyoupayattentiontohiscommandsandkeep
allhisdecrees,IwillnotbringonyouanyofthediseasesIbroughtontheEgyptians,forIamtheLord,whohealsyou.
Deuteronomy7:1216
12Ifyoupayattentiontotheselawsandarecarefultofollowthem,thentheLordyourGodwillkeephiscovenantoflovewith
you,ashesworetoyourancestors.13Hewillloveyouandblessyouandincreaseyournumbers.Hewillblessthefruitofyourwomb,the
cropsofyourlandyourgrain,newwineandoliveoilthecalvesofyourherdsandthelambsofyourflocksinthelandhesworetoyour
ancestorstogiveyou.14Youwillbeblessedmorethananyotherpeoplenoneofyourmenorwomenwillbechildless,norwillanyofyour
livestockbewithoutyoung.15TheLordwillkeepyoufreefromeverydisease.Hewillnotinflictonyouthehorrible
diseasesyouknewinEgypt,buthewillinflictthemonallwhohateyou.16YoumustdestroyallthepeoplestheLordyourGodgives
overtoyou.Donotlookonthemwithpityanddonotservetheirgods,forthatwillbeasnaretoyou.
Deuteronomy28:15andDeuteronomy28:2024
15However,ifyoudonotobeytheLordyourGodanddonotcarefullyfollowallhiscommandsanddecreesIamgiving
youtoday,allthesecurseswillcomeonyouandovertakeyou:...
20TheLordwillsendonyoucurses,confusionandrebukeineverythingyouputyourhandto,untilyouaredestroyedandcometo
suddenruinbecauseoftheevilyouhavedoneinforsakinghim.[a]21TheLordwillplagueyouwithdiseasesuntilhehasdestroyed
youfromthelandyouareenteringtopossess.22TheLordwillstrikeyouwithwastingdisease,withfeverandinflammation,
withscorchingheatanddrought,withblightandmildew,whichwillplagueyouuntilyouperish.23Theskyoveryour
headwillbebronze,thegroundbeneathyouiron.24TheLordwillturntherainofyourcountryintodustandpowderitwillcomedown
fromtheskiesuntilyouaredestroyed.
Deuteronomy28:5860

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58Ifyoudonotcarefullyfollowallthewordsofthislaw,whicharewritteninthisbook,anddonotreverethisglorious
andawesomenametheLordyourGod59theLordwillsendfearfulplaguesonyouandyourdescendants,harshand
prolongeddisasters,andsevereandlingeringillnesses.60HewillbringonyouallthediseasesofEgyptthatyou
dreaded,andtheywillclingtoyou.
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AilmentslikesicknessandbodilyweaknessareaconsequenceoftheFall,naturalcompanions
tothephysicalstateinwhichwelive.Notallareapunishmentorresultofsin,butsome
certainlymaybe.
JamesTalmage,aBiblicalscholarintheearly1900s,hasthistosayonthematter(inJesusthe
Christ),consideringthehealingofamansickofthepalsy:
Theincidentdemandsourfurtherstudy.Accordingtooneoftheaccounts,theLord'sfirst
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wordstotheafflictedonewere,"Son,beofgoodcheer,"followeddirectlybythecomforting
andauthoritativeassurance,"Thysinsbeforgiventhee."Themanwasprobablyinastateof
fearhemayhaveknownthathisailmentwastheresultofwickedindulgences
nevertheless,thoughhemayhaveconsideredthepossibilityofhearingonlycondemnation
forhistransgression,hehadfaithtobebrought.Inthisman'sconditiontherewasplainlya
closeconnectionbetweenhispastsinsandhispresentaffliction,andinthisparticularhis
caseisnotunique,forwereadthatChristadmonishedanotherwhomHehealedtosinno
morelestaworsethingbefallhim.
Wearenotwarranted,however,inassumingthatallbodilyillsaretheresultofculpable
sin,andagainstsuchaconceptionstandstheLord'scombinedinstructionandrebuketo
thosewho,inthecaseofamanbornblind,askedwhohadsinned:themanorhisparents,
tobringsogrievousanafflictionuponhim,towhichinquiryourLordrepliedthatthe
man'sblindnesswasdueneithertohisownsinnortothatofhisparents.
Inmanyinstanceshowever,diseaseisthedirectresultofindividualsin.Whatevermayhave
beenthemeasureofpastoffenseonthepartofthemansufferingfrompalsy,Christ
recognizedhisrepentancetogetherwiththefaiththataccompaniedit,anditwastheLord's
rightfulprerogativetodecideupontheman'sfitnesstoreceiveremissionofhissinsand
relieffromhisbodilyaffliction.TheinterrogativeresponseofJesustotheunuttered
criticismofthescribes,Pharisees,anddoctorshasbeeninterpretedinmanyways.He
inquiredwhichwaseasiertosay,"Thysinsbeforgiventhee,"ortosay,"Arise,andtakeup
thybed,andwalk."
Isitnotarationalexplanationthat,whenspokenauthoritativelybyHim,thetwo
expressionswereofalliedmeaning?Thecircumstanceshouldhavebeenasufficient
demonstrationtoallwhoheard,thatHe,theSonofMan,claimedandpossessedtheright
andthepowertoremitbothphysicalandspiritualpenalties,tohealthebodyofvisible
disease,andtopurgethespiritofthenolessrealmaladyofsin.Inthepresenceofpeopleof
allclassesJesusthusopenlyassertedHisdivinity,andaffirmedthesamebyamiraculous
manifestationofpower.
(Ihadtomanuallyaddpunctuation,andthismaynotbeaperfecttranscriptionIalso
insertedsomeparagraphbreaks!)
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Matt
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Thank you for this answer, sorry but what do you mean by "consequence of the Fall" ? Pierre Jan 16 '13 at 18:52

1 Adam and Eve were cast out of God's presence in the Garden of Eden. There is no corruption, like sickness, in God's
presence. Being out of God's presence is essentially the reason that maladies of this world exist with us. However, there may
be some specifics of this belief which vary across different Christian denominations. Matt Jan 16 '13 at 18:57

Deathitselfisaconsequenceoforiginalsinasareallsicknesses.Specifically,itdoesseemthat
somesicknessesareadirectresultofsin,sometimesasabyproductbutothertimesasadirect
judgmentofGod.
PaulwrotetotheRomanspointsoutthatsomeofthebelieversweretakingcommunioninan
unworthymanner.Hethennotesthatthisresultsinjudgment,andthenstatesthatthisiswhy
somepeopleweresickandsomehadevendied.
27Whoever,therefore,eatsthebreadordrinksthecupoftheLordinanunworthymanner
willbeguiltyconcerningthebodyandbloodoftheLord.28Letapersonexaminehimself,
then,andsoeatofthebreadanddrinkofthecup.29Foranyonewhoeatsanddrinks
withoutdiscerningthebodyeatsanddrinksjudgmentonhimself.30Thatiswhymany
ofyouareweakandill,andsomehavedied.1Corinthians11:2731ESV
So,yes,somesicknesscancertainlybeadirectjudgmentofGod.Ofcourse,somesinsexpose
peopletosicknessestowhichtheywouldotherwisenotbeexposed.Insuchcases,itwould
probablybebetterconsideredjustaconsequenceofsinratherthanaspecificjudgmentofGod.
Alternatively,weknowthatsomesicknessisnottheresultofanysinatall,asJesustoldthe
disciplesaboutthemanwhowasbornblind:
Ashepassedby,hesawamanblindfrombirth.2Andhisdisciplesaskedhim,Rabbi,who
sinned,thismanorhisparents,thathewasbornblind?3Jesusanswered,Itwasnot
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thatthismansinned,orhisparents,butthattheworksofGodmightbedisplayedin
him.John9:13ESV
Ifitis,infact,ajudgmentofGod,itisgoodtonotethereasonforthejudgment.God
disciplinesusforourgood,asafatherdisciplineshisownchildren.
Andhaveyouforgottentheexhortationthataddressesyouassons?Myson,donotregard
lightlythedisciplineoftheLord,norbewearywhenreprovedbyhim.6FortheLord
disciplinestheoneheloves,andchastiseseverysonwhomhereceives.Hebrews12:56ESV
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Great answer, but can we interpret what Jesus said about the man who was born blind in another way ? that people are born
ill because of a sin but this particular man's illness is not a result of a sin but that the works of God might be displayed in
him, so this man was born blind so Jesus will cure him and show the works of God. Pierre Jan 17 '13 at 9:16

1 @Peter That's certainly a possible interpretation. However, we would then need evidence to suggest that this was the only
case where someone was born ill when it wasn't because of sin. We don't have any such statement, so since this is not
identified as an exception, it seems more likely that it isn't, but is a normal occurrance. Narnian Jan 17 '13 at 14:41

Yes:Thisisverycloselyrelatedtocauseandeffect,somecauseisofsinsomecause(ofillness)
isnotofsin.i.e( removedexampleofsin>illness,needabetterone )However,eatingonly
processedfoodoruncookedfoodbecauseoflackofknowledgeonhowtocook,nutritionetc,
(notsin)canstillleadtogettingsick,cancer,etc...illness(andforthelaterone,therearemany
thingswedon'tknow,thatwedon'tunderstand,thatmayeffectourbody).
However,itisveryintriguingtopointoutafactthattherearepeoplewho
intentionallysinaspartoftheirlifestylewithexceptionalhealth,wealthand
wellbeing.
Sothisquestionreallyfallundertheumbrellaofofthefalllikementionedabove,thatallgood
orbadaresusceptibletotheeffectsof"darkness"(evil,devil):
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(ortheopposite,thatGodwilllet"light"beshowntothegoodandthebad)
http://www.thefaithlog.com/2005/08/rainforjustandunjust.html
Matthew5:45
EasytoReadVersion(ERV)
45Ifyoudothis,youwillbechildrenwhoaretrulylikeyourFatherinheaven.Heletsthe
sunriseforallpeople,whethertheyaregoodorbad.Hesendsraintothosewhodoright
andtothosewhodowrong.
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If one has unprotected sex and falls afoul of HIV, it's because the other partner had HIV and HIV is an infectious agent. This
can occur even in a monogamous, married not-sinful relationship -- the partner could have inherited the HIV, or received it
accidentally another way. To ascribe this to 'sin' as if you can avoid them just by avoiding actions deemed sinful is
dangerously wrong. Kaz Dragon Jan 21 '13 at 12:11
@KazDragon: removed example.... Greg McNulty Jan 22 '13 at 1:29
Really appreciated. I think it's fine to say that it's supported by the Bible that death and illness and all sorts of things entered
the world due to the nature of sin. But to say that certain afflictions are due to certain transgressions, especially when we
know the physical, "post-fall world" cause of said afflictions, goes a step too far, IMO. It's not philosophically different from
saying that hurricanes hit the east coast of the USA because of gay people. Kaz Dragon Jan 22 '13 at 8:27

Yesitis.Butyouwillnotgotohellcauseyougotsick.Ifanyonetellsyouthatlookatthem
andsayeveryBOLDLYgetbehindmesatan.ThisisthehardpartaboutthewordofGod.I
saidwordofGod,Hewatchesoverhiswordtoperformit,nothiswillbuthisword,heuseshis
wordtodohiswill.Readitagain.Whenyouunderstandthatitisthewordthatisbeingdone
thatiswhenyouwillmakeyourwordslineupwithhis"God's"willandthesicknessandthesin
willleave.Greaterishethatisinyouthanhethatisintheworld.Thishastobegrowinginyou
beforeitwillproducetheharvest.Thatiswhatyoulookingfor.ItisrightthereMatthew13,
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Mark4andLuke8sowthewordofGodreapthewillofGodandthatiswhatovercomesthe
world.
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