Stockholm Syndrome in Full Effect

We at the Baltimore Black Think Tank of come to the determination

that all of the evidentiary data that has come into our possession, and
based on a critical and unbiased analysis thereof that Stockholm
Syndrome is in full effect within the Black collective.
We have also concluded that those who claim to be advocating and or
fighting to liberate Blacks from the racist system of government and
commerce known as the United States of America, and who are
employed by any form of its governmental apparatus, be they federal,
state and local are willful collaborators and agents of the said brutally
repressive totalitarian fascist system.
We intend to show that those Blacks who hold privileged positions
licensed by the racist system of government are actively engaged in
the oppression of their people for pecuniary gain, particularly when the
data indicates that 70% of Blacks who hold jobs are employed by the
racist system of government and commerce.
This conversation demonstrates the cognitive dissonance of those
Blacks relating to their claim of advocacy for Black National Liberation
and their holding positions of privilege, trust, profit and or menial
employment by the racist system of government and commerce. It
should be noted that this could be a conversation between any crosssection of Blacks who are employed by government but who do not
view themselves as the agents of government oppression.
We would like to thank Malik Zulu Shabazz, Chairman of the New Black
Panther Party for giving us the opportunity to further explore our
theory on his Facebook page. We also thank Vincent Riggins, Shaik Wali
Hasib, Norman Henderson, and Smith Michael for sharing their views
and opinions with this writer.
The background for this conversation was Malik Zulu Shabazzs
comments on the debate between Joseph Biden, Democratic VicePresidential Candidate, and Paul Ryan, Republican Vice Presidential
Candidate. This writer could not help but wonder why such a prominent
advocate for Black Liberation would even concern himself with the
racist systems rigged electoral process and discuss the same as if the
issues debated where of any real merit as it relates to the oppression
of Black people.

Malik Zulu Shabazz--Election 2012: The two devils are swinging it out.
Biden on the attack but Ryan scraps backs on economic facts.
Vincent Riggins Malik were with you but snap out of it...........Nation building starts today
no matter who win.........man up!
Shaik Wali Hasib What some of us will not admit and that is many Americans were
AGAINST slavery from its inception and fought against it in a Civil War. We talk about
'devils', but neighborhood drive byes are the fault of those who do those things. Some of
our brothers are now 25 and 30 are more years old and still have their pants falling off
their asses. So whites may be devils but some of us are 'clowns'.
David Anthony Wiggins All of the clowns are those who make their living from the racist
system of government and commerce that is oppressing non-white people all around the
world. Those clowns are not willing to sacrifice their standard of living, so they pretend
at nation building whilst trying to maintain citizenship and employment, teaching our
people that if only they better themselves they can have some upward mobility in the
racist system designed for their failure.
Those clowns preach cultural nationalism while recieving paychecks and or pensions for
their service to the racist system of government and commerce, this includes every Black
employee of said racist system of government and commerce, including judges, lawyers,
teachers, police, and all others similarly employed.
Too many of us suffer from Stockholm Syndrome and still think you can reform this
cursed nation and save it from its divine judgment with its impending doom and
destruction.
Vincent Riggins Come on David Proactivism is the way to go. We don't have to wait for
nobody other those that's under the spell. We already have the power, but they have brain
wash us to think that we don't. And if you can agree with that stop the bitching and be
about organizing. Let's arrive at an agenda and insist on it's advocacy by all of our
politicians. 2012 WAKE UP! Let's be about it
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Shaik Wali Hasib We need to stop fooling ourselves and looking outside ourselves and
poingitng fingers. We need to encourage our youth to "Pull up thier pants and pick up a
book" and that's a fact. Until we focus on our own community we will sink lower and
lower...
Shaik Wali Hasib Just look. Zulu has a Law degree! Master P went to Southern U in
Baton Rouge, P Diddy went to Howard, Kanye West is well read. Look at thoe who are
succeeding, they READ. Sure there is racism in the system but that is a minor poblem
compared to what we are doing to ourselves!!

Norman Henderson The economic fact is, Ryan's party, ruled for two staight terms
leading up to the crash in the national housing market, and a not so hot employment
outlook. Obama was given the reins, after it was destroyed(economy).
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David Anthony Wiggins Vincent no need to preach to the choir and a healthy and fair
amount of righteous indignation should never be misconstrued as bitching, particularly
when it points out the fallacy of operating within the racist system of government and
commerce to liberate ourselves from it---it's an oxymoronic proposition.
Shaik---Having a law degree from our oppressors will not free us from their oppression,
make no mistake about that, nor will continued participation and cooperation with the
racist system of government and commerce that like any other captor throws a few
crumbs and privileges on some captives to help keep the other captives in check.
Saying "sure there is racism but" is a prescription for continued oppression within the
racist system of government anc commerce and a defeatist attitude which accepts racism
as a fait accompli---Man up as Vincent says and face the facts a white man's heaven is a
black man's hell.
Vincent Riggins I love it everyday to get up and make a difference were you (I) stand.
Right or wrong I'm going to do all I can to help his imperfect being to win. May the Lord
add a blessing to my words and uncover the veil of defeatism.

Norman Henderson I am not so sure a law degree from the oppressors means a lawyer
cant successfully defend a captive,if the particulars of a case, is within the legal
framework of established law. How else can anyone defend a client,you cant make up
your own law or set up a legal framework outside of theirs to work in coperation with
theirs unless it has similiar standards.
Shaik Wali Hasib I taught in prisons for years (as well as on the outside, including a few
years in a a high school) and when brothers came in to speak as visitors, I let them know
that 'blaming whitety, or "the system", was not gonna change a thing! Men needed to
focus on themselves and correct themselves. I mean, common sense will tell you that if
you are in a War and all you are doing is telling your Army how terrible the enemy is and
your army is drunk on alcohol, weed, cocaine, heroin and ignorance (yes ingnorance) how are you gonna win in this modern, contgemporary, technological world?
David Anthony Wiggins I'm blaming the oppressive government which by all right ought
to be abolished, but because you make your living from that system you can not see that
you suffer from Stockholm Syndrome--"aint nothing gonna change" is what you're paid
to teach them, you are a part of the problem and those like you who make a living in this
system will never seriously fight with blood and guts to liberate our oppressed people.

Norman Henderson Aint nothing wrong blamey whitey,cause they be plenty to blame
whitey about. The only thing is while you blaming whitey make sure you doing all that is
neccessary to liberate yourself and others like uself.
Vincent Riggins @Shaik very well put, I bet that you don't have a law degree?
"Proactivesim" is the road to freedom
David Anthony Wiggins I'm blaming you and whitey's government that you make your
living from

Norman Henderson Any blackman who claims to address the problem of the black world
and avoid pointing out whiteys role in the destruction is in denial and letting whitey off
the hook. I aint respect whitey dat much to decide on dat kinna strategy.
Norman Henderson Only folks who claim to have whitey friends and is convinced whitey
want the total liberation of the black world think in a certain way.
Shaik Wali Hasib Aw, come on David, when did we African Americans start pringitn
money? Hell, we hardly even shop with each other. Be for real.
Norman Henderson @Shaik Wali Hasab, are your white friends supporting your effort in
improving the black community? If you have white friends by the way.
Vincent Riggins Come on David the fact that your blaming someone else other than
yourself is proof that your under the "spell". It's true that the cards are stacked against us,
but that's another story, read the history of Israel which is us. And that will help to
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Shaik Wali Hasib Well Norman, if we are gonna compare "Who si the blackest?" I think I
will come out well. I joined The Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the NOI in 1968.
When did you leave the white world?
Norman Henderson The real situation is, the total expenditure of the black people cannot
circulate several times in the community unless there is an infastructure to mantain its
circulation.
Vincent Riggins We just need to unite! A friend of main work for this old Jewish guy and
he told him, that if we ("your people") every got together we will be the most powerful
people on the planet. Peace, Light, Proactivism

Norman Henderson Shaik Wali Hasab, I was born in Jamaica and was introduced to the
teachings of Hon. Marcus Mosiah Garvey. It is the same teaching Elijah Muhammad was
popularising in the NOI.
Vincent Riggins @ Norman yes but the sheep is lost............were is the fisher of men?
Norman Henderson @Shaik Wali Hasab, Elijah Muhammad was a member of Garvey's
movement before he formed NOI.
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Shaik Wali Hasib I never met The Honorable Marcus Garvey but I did meet and talk to
Vincent Riggins Unity and Collective Economics is were it's at. Talk about that and watch
every conversation end!
Norman Henderson @Shaik Wali Hasab,I worked alongside the Manley Government as a
19, and 20 year old young man. dont get me started.
Shaik Wali Hasib THEM was not in the Garvey Group nor was he ever a part of Noble
Drew Ali's Moorish Scientists. He was a Bible man and a drunk. He said he drank a lot
because what he saw in the Bible and what he heard in Church did not agree. But, one
day his wife, Clara Muhammad heard W. D. Fard and she took him to a meeting and from
there, as they say, was the rest of the story.
David Anthony Wiggins Elijah Muhammad and Marcus Garvey blamed the white man
and they didn't teach to join the system they taught to leave it---but you all can be a part
of our oppression, because you are useful idiot tools for white supremacy domination and
will be cast off like Hitler cast of his Jewish Financiers.
Norman Henderson @Shaik Wali Hasib, Garvey met Noble Drew Ali in England.
Vincent Riggins Hey, unity, collective economics and a community agenda should be the
focus. You can study who ever you want to and you will still land on the same solution.
Norman Henderson Noble Drew Ali along with plenty African AMERICAN writers of
Harlem contributed articles to Garvey's newspaper,the Negro World.
Shaik Wali Hasib its really sad when you speak to a brother's intelligence and common
sense he calls you all kinds of names as tho you are some kind of tool... Makes you
wonder what kind of contribution to African American life he has made, other than
calling names. So I said to you David. YOU ARE RIGHT about what ever you say. I am
not here to fight my own people. I know about inter-racial hatred and killins. So David,
whatever you say, YOU ARE RIGHT.
David Anthony Wiggins Actually you insulted my intelligence and began to defend this
racist system of government and commerce, and became offended by the fact that all of

you who make a living off this racist system of government and commerce are
collaborators in our oppression---you can't get around it, you can't reason it away---70%
of so-called African Americans are employed by the government be it federal state or
local, you are collaborators for a paycheck and you've sold out our people to maintain a
false standard of living.
Shaik Wali Hasib Norman, I do not know how far back you go. I was born in 1933, so I
know about the depression years and my Grandmother used to talk to me about Slavery
and I grew up in Black, segregated school, so I was taught self love and self pride. Plus I
appreciate Zulu from the 1st time i saw him on TV handling himself with Hannity and
with Bill O'Reilly. Also, I knew Khallid Muhammad (Harold 2x) real well. he joined the
NOI in New Orleans, my hometown when he was a student at Dillard University.
Vincent Riggins @ Shaik if were gonna win we need everybody even the sleep walkers
for one day they will awaken. Never apologize for the truth.
Shaik Wali Hasib I do not deny the falut of white folks but, from what I can see today,
our lack of progress is mostly our own fault. That's my position and (as they say in Court)
I rest my case.
Shaik Wali Hasib As-Salaamu-alaikum Brothers.
Norman Henderson @Saik Wali Hasab,my history goes way back. My maternal
grandmother is a descendant of the Maroons of Jamaica.
Vincent Riggins @ Shaik neither you or David or wrong, our only weakness is our
refusal to unite around a prioritized agenda.
David Anthony Wiggins You speak with a forked tongue you say "I do not deny the falut
of white folks " but in the next breath you say "our lack of progress is mostly our own
fault." This racist system of government was not designed for us to progress and those
who work for ...See More
Norman Henderson @Shaik, Wali Hasab, I dont mind chastising black people for not
attending to they own business, but it goes too far to the point of reluctance to keep in
mind our history of subjugation and economic enslavement,it is dis enslavement that
damage us most, not the physical. Psychological enslavement along with economic
enslavement.
Vincent Riggins @ David I know how you feel, I felt the same way but until you figure
out how we can grow our own food (store it, ship, sell it) and how we can manufacture
our own goods and services there's a hole in your bucket. What ever you, we earn goes
back to those in power. What's the solution?

Vincent Riggins Thanks to you all for shining your light on a topic that's much needed, to
be talked about. Shine On!
Norman Henderson The solution is to build a system within a system. Have a parallel
system of money transaction, a parrallel banking system, that will serve the best interest
of our spending culture. Not the type of spending culture we have among us now.
Shaik Wali Hasib I will say it for one last time David, YOU WIN. You are right. I am just
an old man with no knowledge at all. So Salaam. I am thru with it Brother.
Norman Henderson This model and other ideas was kinna what Garvey and Elijah really
was about.
Vincent Riggins Thanks Norman that's a start, but it will require meetings, planning and
finance.
Shaik Wali Hasib Norman and Vincent, I agree with both of you but we also need
pressure and that is why I respect Malik Zulu Shabazz, as I am sure you two guys do.
Norman Henderson I did not claim to not know what it require, I know this was one way
of managing our money flow. And I am not neccessarily talking bout a bank as formal as
d whiteman's. This bank I speak of demand a lot of honesty and unselfish attitude among
us.
Vincent Riggins @ Shaik let's be about it! Just guard you ego. Your ego can be your
greatest asset or most expensive liability. Nobody can do it alone, all of us have
something to offer and we need it all to rise up. I read some where that each individual
can do 2,000 thing better than the next person. Unity!!!!!
Vincent Riggins--- Norman I thank your on to something but it sounds like a spiritual
foundation.
Norman Henderson-- If black people in this Amerikkka, pledge to become less
materially-driven for even 6months d whiteman would introduce very generous terms to
cause you to start spending money,the same terms he could have introduced just to be fair
in the first place.
Norman Henderson-- @Vincent, spiritual remedies if a suffering people is willing to use
it can be devastating to an oppressor.
Vincent Riggins-- True, but that's reactionary (slavery), being "Proactive" is were
freedom be. In my country voice
Vincent Riggins-- I'm gonna friend you, the beginning.

Norman Henderson-- Proactive is taking steps towards your own benefit,before

someone has to choose a decision for you. I am not sure I did not include that idea in my
argument. All along I am talking proactive ideas.
Vincent Riggins-- @ Ali Bey were you been Brother?
Smith Michael-- Lmao, I love see everyone involved in the election process...

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Keith Courtside White Somebody killed my cousin on Ramblewood ave DAVE And
he was Black also and my nephew stationed east of Kandahar somebody shooting at him daily the
cowards who put their women and children in harms way make these people casualties of war.Dave
I'm a little surprised When you killing people on the streets of Baltimore or overseas there is
unfortunate collateral damage but Dave did you call.Bush a war mongering killer or is this criticism
aimed just at Obama I like the drone program and guess what I like I instituted in Pakistan and the
success rate they are having in Yemen

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David Anthony Wiggins Keith Courtside White--I'm happy that those of you who defend this racist
system of government and their families are dying just like the innocent people being killed by your
black president. I rejoice that the death and destruction that you pay for through your tax dollars
and acceptance of this racist system of government and commerce are visted on those of you who
endorse this nation and your families. I am of the opinion that more of you should die and that
Almighty God spare none of you who refuse to admit that we need to remove ourselves from this
wickedly savage and barbarian people.
You have chosen to side with the dealers of death, you should accept that killing abroad has
consequences that almost always means killing at home. You want it both ways and you can't have
it so. If you work for this government you are an OPPRESSOR, your nephew should meet his death in
Kandahar as an OPPRESSOR. I call all of those employed by the government in whatever capacity
warmongers and oppressors, I do not pick and choose.
You want to maintain a standard of living that depends on the murder of non-white people abroad
and the theft of their lands natural resources to be controlled by those who fund the war monering
nations of NATO, the IMF and World Bank. I pray everyday for the destruction of this nation and its
NATO allies for their racism and barbarity against non-whites, as well as the death and destruction of
their non-white collaborators and supporters where ever they are, and who ever they may be.
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Aliann Pompey Look at the dates on these incidents. It's crazy that not only things like this is still
happening, but are intensifying!

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Raphael Crawford Powder keg waiting to explode, instigated by the law makers and police
agencies. And, of course, the courts are totally silent!
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Mel Cragwell I saw a search and frisk here in Chicago this past summer...[and believe me, we need
it here!] Problem is the excessive and unnecessary dialoguing that went on between the police and
the young man. We're in a tough stretch right now folks...and I think...See More
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Ray Winbush David, gonna delete this comment as well; it's *irrelevant* to the discussion. Keep
posting like this and that's it. You've been warned for the last time.
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David Anthony Wiggins Ray I understand you get a paycheck from the government and you have
to do what you have to do, but it won't change the fact that you and all Blacks employed by this
racist system of government and commerce are coconsiprators in the oppression of our people.
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David Anthony Wiggins I copied this thread and I'll use it in an up-coming white paper to show
that those of you who work for the government are part of the problem. You can delete what you will
and unfriend me if the truth of what Im saying offends you.