Buddhism and Goals

Buddhism and Goals - Page 2 - Dhamma Wheel
Dhamma Wheel
A Buddhist discussion forum on the Dhamma of the

Theravada
FAQ
Search
Search
Register
Login
Board index General Dhamma Open Dhamma
Buddhism and Goals

Forum rules
Post Reply
31 posts
1
2
Search this topic

Search
Re: Buddhism and Goals

by Pannapetar Mon May 17, 2010 3:23 am
P
o
s
MayaRefugee wrote:
t
How do you develop a lust for longevity/health?
Pannapetar
Posts: 327
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009
6:05 am
Location: Chiang Mai,
Thailand
Contact:
C
o
n
t
a
c
t
P
a
n
n
a
p
e
t
a
r
Lust probably has little do with it. I mean, how could this possibly work? Consciously develop a
desire to trick yourself into exercising? I don't think so. Consider sanity instead. It simply
makes sense to maintain a healthy body. Therefore it makes sense to spend effort towards that
goal. It is connected to the ability to act upon reason.
MayaRefugee wrote:
Why improve the body when it simply is what it is?
The body is hardly static, is it?

Cheers, Thomas
o
p

by jcsuperstar Mon May 17, 2010 3:34 am
P
o
exercise
can be great for mindfulness practice, the buddha
s
a healthy
body also settles down easier into meditation
t
http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=4357&p=66887[13/8/2558 3:53:25]
did a lot of walking!
jcsuperstar
Posts: 1915
Joined: Wed Dec 31,
2008 5:15 am
Location: alaska
Contact:
C
o
n
t
a
c
t
j
c
s
u
p
e
r
s
t
Dan74
a
Posts: 2825
r
Joined: Sun Mar 01,
2009 11:12 pm
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to youAjaan Suwat
o
p

by Dan74 Mon May 17, 2010 4:51 am
P
o
Discipline
and focus are the qualities
s
t
I work on, the ones that don't come naturally at all!
Whether it is to do with the body and eating habits, I think these are great practice qualities in
general and without them practice isn't really going to take off. So even these worldly aims,
like losing weight, exercising more, etc can be treated as practice, especially if they are done
with a focus on the present, sharpening attention, broadening awareness and persevering in
the light of the right view, right intention and right action.
Last edited by Dan74 on Mon May 17, 2010 5:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
_/|\_
o
p

by Pannapetar Mon May 17, 2010 5:12 am
P
o
s
jcsuperstar wrote:
t
exercise can be great for mindfulness practice, the buddha did a lot of walking!
Pannapetar
Posts: 327
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009
6:05 am
Location: Chiang Mai,
Thailand
Contact:
C
o
n
t
a
chownah c
Posts: 3666 t
Joined: Wed Aug 12,
P
2009 2:19 pm
a
n
n
a
p
e
t
a
r
And then there is the monk who walked a thousand miles. Well, almost.
Cheers, Thomas
o
p

by chownah Mon May 17, 2010 2:25 pm
P
o
s
t
Anybody have any suggestions or insights on finding an inspirational and all encompassing
why/reason?
The Four Noble Truths?

chownah
o
p
MayaRefugee
Posts: 66
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010

by MayaRefugee Wed May 19, 2010 4:02 pm
P
o

6:15 am
The Buddha's first words after enlightenment were these: "Seeking but not finding the house
builder, I traveled through the round of countless births. Oh, painful is birth ever and again!
House builder you have now been seen. You shall not build the house again. Your rafters have
been broken down; your ridge-pole is demolished too. My mind has now attained the unformed
nibbana and reached the end of every kind of craving." (Dh. 153-54.)
Taken from here: http://www.vipassanadhura.com/buddha.htm

Isn't planning to go to the gym regularly, eating certain types of food regularly, reaching a
specic weight, etc. and carrying out these plans just a form of house building?
What's making these plans?
Peace,
MR
o
p
ground
Posts: 2592
Joined: Wed Nov 25,
2009 6:01 am
by ground Thu May 20, 2010 3:01 am

P
o
s
MayaRefugee wrote:
t
The Buddha's first words after enlightenment were these: "Seeking but not finding the
house builder, I traveled through the round of countless births. Oh, painful is birth ever
and again! House builder you have now been seen. You shall not build the house again.
Your rafters have been broken down; your ridge-pole is demolished too. My mind has now
attained the unformed nibbana and reached the end of every kind of craving." (Dh. 15354.)

What/who is asking these questions? And why? To build a house (of views)?
The "let's pretend to be enlightened right from the start" approach is just inconsistent and
perpetuates samsara.
If you manage to engage in practice without goal setting then fine. But if you can't "just do it"
then you need goals.
But there is no need for body cult because eating is just meant to survive and moving exercise
is just the same like walking a dog. You walk the dog because the dog obviously needs it and
feels better afterwards, compassion.

Kind regards
o
p
MayaRefugee
Posts: 66
6:15 am

by MayaRefugee Thu May 20, 2010 7:13 am
P
o charioteer is asking these questions, he wants to know wether he should hook the horses
The
s
up
t to the chariot and if he should then he also wants to know which direction he should point
the horses in and wether or not he should whip them into action - as far as he can tell things
are fine how they are at the moment and their is no pressing need to hook the horses up and
go somewhere or make the situation become something else, all reports from the top seem to
share this sentiment as well. The charioteer suspects and openly admits that the remnants of
past mental formations could be clouding his perceptions and stopping him from making
certain realizations.
BTW, I don't see how giving due consideration to the wisdom of the Buddhas perceptions is
pretending to be enlightened - if you think he has put into words something that is true are
you suposed to ignore it or deny it's validity - what good are teachings if not used as
"teachings"?
Peace,
MR
o
p

by Goofaholix Thu May 20, 2010 7:23 am
P
o
s
MayaRefugee wrote:
t
Goofaholix
Posts: 2255
Joined: Sun Nov 15,
2009 3:49 am
Location: New Zealand
The charioteer is asking these questions, he wants to know wether he should hook the horses up
to the chariot and if he should then he also wants to know which direction he should point the
horses in and wether or not he should whip them into action - as far as he can tell things are
fine how they are at the moment and their is no pressing need to hook the horses up and go
somewhere or make the situation become something else, all reports from the top seem to
share this sentiment as well. The charioteer suspects and openly admits that the remnants of
past mental formations could be clouding his perceptions and stopping him from making certain
realizations.
BTW, I don't see how giving due consideration to the wisdom of the Buddhas perceptions is
pretending to be enlightened - if you think he has put into words something that is true are you
suposed to ignore it or deny it's validity - what good are teachings if not used as "teachings"?
I'm guessing the issue is that you have too much time on your hands and are wondering what to
do with it.
Before I was married and had children I also came to a point where I was feeling much as you
do, where I had realised that there was nothing worth pursuing out there, nothing that was
going to satisfy, but I still wasn't prepared to commit to full time practice either.
Since being married and had children I don't think that feeling has changed but what has
changed is that I have no idle time on my hands, I struggle to find time to do all the things I
have to do let alone the things I want to do. I have no time to idle away except maybe half an
hour a day on dhammawheel and my practice is more oriented towards moment to moment
mindfulness rather than formal retreats, I crave my one retreat a year when in the past I could
do retreats for months on end.
Anyway, I'm not sure if this is helping but hopefully it may give some perspective.
"Right effort is effort with wisdom. Because where there is wisdom, there is interest. The desire to know something is
wisdom at work. Being mindful is not difficult. But its difficult to be continuously aware. For that you need right effort. But
it does not require a great deal of energy. Its relaxed perseverance in reminding yourself to be aware. When you are
aware, wisdom unfolds naturally, and there is still more interest." - Sayadaw U Tejaniya
o
p
MayaRefugee
Posts: 66
6:15 am

by MayaRefugee Thu May 20, 2010 9:26 am
P
o
Thanks
Goof!
s
t
Circumstances being the way they are at the moment I do have a lot of time on my hands - I
find I spend most if it daydreaming or mentally rehearsing whatever box needs to be ticked
next - not very efficent or productive in the eyes of most but I enjoy it.
You're post definately has me thinking, as I compulsively reply I'm rhetorically wondering:
Should I find activities to do for the sake of filling time?
What should I be doing with my time?
Peace,
MR
o
p

by Annapurna Thu May 20, 2010 11:07 am
P
o
s
MayaRefugee wrote:
t
Annapurna
Posts: 2639
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009
8:04 pm
Location: Germany
Contact:
C
o
n
t
a
c
t
A
n
n
a
p
u
r
The Buddha's first words after enlightenment were these: "Seeking but not finding the
house builder, I traveled through the round of countless births. Oh, painful is birth ever
and again! House builder you have now been seen. You shall not build the house again.
Your rafters have been broken down; your ridge-pole is demolished too. My mind has now
attained the unformed nibbana and reached the end of every kind of craving." (Dh. 15354.)

Peace,
MR
What's inheriting karma?
http://www.schmuckzauberei.blogspot.com/
Display posts from previous: All posts

posts
Sort by Post
Post time
time
Ascending
Ascending
o
p
Go
31 posts
1
2
Post Reply
Return to Open Dhamma
Jump to
WHO IS ONLINE
Users browsing this forum: mal4mac, Mawkish1983 and 6 guests
Google Saffron, Theravada Search Engine
Board index
Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited
GZIP: Off
DhammaWheel.com is associated with DharmaWheel.net, DhammaWiki.com, and TheDhamma.com

Buddhism and Goals - Page 2 - Dhamma Wheel

Hochgeladen von

Dokumentinformationen

Copyright

Verfügbare Formate

Dieses Dokument teilen

Dokument teilen oder einbetten

Freigabeoptionen

Stufen Sie dieses Dokument als nützlich ein?

Sind diese Inhalte unangemessen?

Copyright:

Verfügbare Formate

Buddhism and Goals - Page 2 - Dhamma Wheel

Hochgeladen von

Copyright:

Verfügbare Formate

Buddhism and Goals - Page 2 - Dhamma Wheel

A Buddhist discussion forum on the Dhamma of the

Board index General Dhamma Open Dhamma

Search this topic

Re: Buddhism and Goals

How do you develop a lust for longevity/health?

Why improve the body when it simply is what it is?

The body is hardly static, is it?

Re: Buddhism and Goals

did a lot of walking!