Guide for the Application of Neutral Grounding in Electrical Utility Systems, Part V - Transmission Systems and Subtransmission Systems

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References to all standards need to be updated.

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The more recent reference cited date to 1991. A

quick look at IEEE references gives 205 match to a
search on neutral grounding. There is probably is
there some useful references to be looked at.
Include the references listed.

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C62.92.5-1992 Reaffirmation Ballot

Coordination

Either: (1) latest revision date, or (2) leave out revision

date and state something like "latest versions should
apply."
Plan a work group to review recent literature.

IEEE 76CH1066-0-PWR
IEEE Seminar/Report 87TH0176-8-PWR
IEEE Std 18-1992
IEEE Std 824-1994
IEEE Std 1036-1992
IEEE Std. C37.99-1990
Standard has been revised and updated.
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Ref. 24; the IEEE std C37.04 have been revised and Change date: [24] IEEE std C37.04-1999, IEEE
the actual version is 1999.
standard rating. (withdraw: 1979 (reaff 1988))
A couple of commas seem to be missing.
Add a comma between voltage and possibly and also
between generator and out.
Some modifications to the text needs to be
None given.
considered here to acknowledge changes to the
selection and application of metal oxide surge
arresters as evident in the revised IEEE Guide for
the Application of Metal-Oxide Arresters for
Alternating-Current Systems - C62.22-1997.
I am a member of IEEE 1159 Recommended
In this case Table 2 indicated Voltage Swell. The
Practice for Monitoring Electric Power Quality. The duration of the event determines the categories.
term Temporary Overvoltage may not apply
Voltage Swell has Instantaneous, Momentary, and
according to Table 2. Overvoltages are greater than Temporary. Instantaneous is .5 to 30 cycles.
one minute.
Momentary is 30 cycles to 3 seconds. Temporary is 3
seconds to one minute. Over one minute is an

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does not have a ) associated with it.
Missing parenthesis at end of first paragraph.
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overvoltage condition.
Remove the (.

Add parenthesis.
Consider changing diagram with a neutral reactor is
shown for an autotransformer with a to diagram is
shown for an autotransformer with a neutral reactor
and with a.
Grounding Relaying may not be the correct term.
Consider changing to Ground Relaying.
In the related figure B2
Does that need to be 2a rather than B2
There is an extra set of ( ).
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There is an extra set of ( ).
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"maximu" in first sentence should be 'maximum"
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Standard has been revised and updated.
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Restrikes and reignitions, as I recall, are not
It would be a good idea to check the definitions in one
considered to be the same phenomena in relation to of the circuit breaker standards e.g. C37--.
what happens in a circuit breaker. The former refers
to thermal breakdown, while the latter and more
serious condition with respect to generating
overvoltages, refers to dielectric breakdowns.
Interruped is not the correct word
Consider changing interruped to interrupting
Wording in sentence does not seem to be correct.
Consider changing end of sentence to in a circuit
breaker when a line to ground fault was interrupted.
I would submit that the use of the term "restrike-free" None given.
in regard to circuit breakers demands some
qualification, or should be avoided. Oil circuit
breakers are certainly not restrike-free, and there
may be questions about the capabilities of vacuum
breakers, especially when switching shunt capacitor
banks.
There is an extra set of ( ).
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The word standard seems to be missing.
Consider changing grounding (IEEE Std C62.92.2
[B2]) contains to grounding standard [B2] contains.
Is 230 kV the correct number?
Consider a lower voltage rating if appropriate.
This paragraph may not be completely correct.
Check paragraph for total correctness of the triple
harmonics.
No reference is given for inductive coordination.
Consider adding a reference to C62.92.4
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to identify the various sequence voltages.
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Item (4) reference IEE Std. 32. Missing "E".

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Eq. B1 &
Eq. B4
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Eq. B11

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There appears to be an .) at the end of the note that

is not needed.
In Eq. B1 the term (kVM)2 is used and in Eq. B4 the
term kV2M is used.
The term N' is used, but only N unprimed is defined.
I have checked Table 7, Fig. D-1 in the back of
Reference [33], Westinghouse T&D. There N' refers
to the H winding, and N refers to the M winding. An
equation is given for N' = 1+n1 , but I can find no
definitions for n1 and n2. I suspect that n1 is the
turns ratio between main and series winding, and n2
is ratio between main and tertiary.

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Be consistent for this term.

Eq. B9, B10, and B11 need to be verified that N' and
not N is correct. If N' is correct, then the corrigenda
needs to show how N'' is obtained.

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FORM 8C (IEC)
1998-03-01

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Change NT to ZNT on the left side of the = sign.