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Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:36 PM
To: sam99@eim.ae
Subject: Re: Q&A plus Message
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your continuous support.
I am working for a Project Management Company.
Sir, I have a question in regards to the late payments and the impact of delayed payments in
payment process mechanism.
Our current payment evaluation is a multi-tier system which involves Employer, Project
Manager, Cost Consultants, Design & Supervising Consultants. Due to this multi-tier system
some of the payments are got delayed. Now the Contractor has claimed for the interest for
this delayed payments and claimed for the EOT with prolongation costs due to this.
FIDIC 1987, reprinted 1992 and FIDIC 1999 are adopted as the form of Contract for different
projects by our Client.
Please comment on the Contractor's position for their claim and the Clients position in
regards to this to amend the payment process mechanism.
Many Thanks.
Regards,
Alex Peter
Under FIDIC 1999, the Employer has the obligation to pay within 56 days of Engineer
receiving the Statement and details from the Contractor, and therefore if the certification
process is not completed within this 56 days (or if certified but Employer does not pay), then
the Contractor would have a successful claim for interest from the 57th day onwards until he
is paid (in addition to his right to suspend/decelerate/terminate for late payment).
Under FIDIC 4th Edition, the certification has to be done within 28 days and payment should
be made within a further 28 days, and therefore:-
if the certification is done in less than 28 days, then interest is due from the 29th day of
certification (if payment is not made)
if the certification is not done within 28 days, then interest is due from the 57th day of
submission of the statement and details (even if no certification is made but the claim
should be in respect of damages for breach of contract, as according to the contract,
the obligation of the Employer to pay starts only after a certificate is delivered to him)
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Thakshila
2.
3.
You referred to the employer and contractor concurrent delay where the
mitigation measure adopted was precast floors to save 2 weeks of the 5 week
delay was the contractor mitigating his own delay OR that of the Employer
He has the obligation to mitigate both.
If the mitigation comes with additional cost, would the contractor receive
re-imbursement for this as it could be considered HIS delay?? Mitigation at
additional cost to the Employer cannot be done unilaterally, without first
notifying and arriving at a mutual agreement if the Contractor expects to get
reimbursement, where the delay is Employers Responsibility.
Where the delays above occur and the contractor cannot mitigate the
delays, is he still entitled to E0T 5 weeks. Yes
Where a subcontractor is involved
If the Main Contractor receives an EoT for the works should he inform
all his subbies officially??? Yes, if the subbies in turn have claimed EOTs or if
they are affected by such EOT.
Main Contractor gets EoT during the EoT period the Main Contractor
has now been negligent and further delays the project where the MC is now
liable for LDs
If the Main Contractor fails to advise the subbies officially after the 1st
EoT that the Time for Completion has been distended, is Time at Large
with respect to the subcontractor?? No
If so, where the Employer exercises his right on the Main Contractor to
impose LDs for the Main Contractos negligence, does the MC forfeit his right
to impose LDs on the Sub-Contractor because he did not grant EoT(1) even
though the Sub-Contractors negligence may have given rise to the Min
Contractors negligence?????
An EoT (1)is awarded without cost for concurrent delay 3 months extension
During the extended phase the Main Contractor incurs further delays as a
result of the Employer and submits EoT(2) before the elapse of the 1st EoT
Time for Completion
The 1st EoT Time for Completion then elapses and the Engineer states
that he cannot assess the merit of EoT(2) as there is NO APPROVED
updated baseline programme following award of EoT(1)
4.
5.
the Works at that given moment in time giving rise to the EoT(1) award
They are currently using a completions programme from a monitoring purpose
ONLY!
Is Time at Large in this case as the EoT(1) Time for Completion has
elapsed??? Time does not become at-large in a contract where a
comprehensive EOT clause exist (such as FIDIC 4th), because if the Engineer
does not determine it, then a subsequent arbitrator can determine it. Time
would be set at-large only in contracts where there are no EOT provisions or
the existing provisions are poorly drafted and therefore cannot be used to
award EOT in certain circumstances.
Do you reference ALL the clauses that gave rise to the claim, ie, claim 6.4
for late drawing issue by the Engineer whilst referencing Clause 44.1 b, whilst
referencing Clause 52.1 or 52.2 where rates cannot be agreed There is no
requirement in FIDIC to mention clause numbers, but it is good practice to
refer to specific clauses which are relevant to the issue.
If the Contractor does not agree with the fixed rate Clause 51.2 notified
by the Engineer to the Contractor in writing has he any other avenue to
pursue as it may have been an impartial view by the Engineer?? If the
contractor disputes the fixed rate then arbitration (with the preceding amicable
settlement option) is the available avenue.
FIDIC Comparisons
What are the differences between both contracts as I assume both have
similar clause but numbered differently?? They are so numerous that cannot be
stated in this short Q&A forum.
Regards,
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Darren
Darren Burke
Contract Manager
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
How are u I have one contarctual question for you Please comment.
My project at international city which is commenced now so question is contractator has
given the discount 10% on Balance works to be done. so while we are omitting any of BOQ
item which is not required applying 10% discount on the same.hence we should apply same
discount while any additional BOQ item to be included?
For Example:
Item A - Amount AED 20,000.00 is required to omit by client so net deletion will be AED
- 18,000.00
Item B - Amount AED 25,000.00 is required to add to complete the works so in this case
Net Addition will be AED -22,500.00 . Is this correct procedure to evaluate the variations?
Unless expressly stated that the 10% discount shall apply to rates and prices in the valuation
of variations, all omissions and additions should be valued without considering the discount.
The discount would be a lump sum discount (which should be deducted from the final
account) calculated as 10% of the value of balance work that was foreseen as required to be
completed, as of the day when the discount was agreed.
Regards,
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Regards,
Feroz
From: Silvestrece Imelda Syril [mailto:isssilvestrece@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 6:57 PM
To: sam99@eim.ae
Subject: a point of inquiry
Dear Prof. Sam,
Good day! I am Imelda Syril Silvestrece - Razzaq. I was one of your attendees in sound
Contract Seminar/workshop last January 2008 held in dubai when i was still working in
Rection Project Management as QS. I am now currently working here in Vietnam as Quantity
Surveyor. I am having a difficulty dealing with employer because they seemed to have their
own contract understanding.
I would like to ask some question. hope you could help me clear up this things.
1) does the employer have the right to with hold the Payment Certificate let's say from the
month of March 2011 and April 2011 which was already been certified by the Engineer and
on the table of the employer (Project Manager) for his signature for final approval? for the
reason that the Project Manager on employer side doesn't want to pay a certain item in the
BOQ.. ( Reinforcement Steel Bar)
sample:
a) ..all costs, including material costs for mechanical splices since according to him, already
included in the unit price of the related pay item under the contract.
b) Quantity, which is additionally arisen from the Construction Method of statement of the
contractor, shall not be paid.
Actually, i have been reading the contract, it's a FIDIC Conditions of Contract, and haven't
found any stipulations that state that the employer have the right to with hold or stop the
payment. General conditions and Particulars.
Even in Engineer's Duties and authority Clause 2.1 of the Particular condition, there's only a
certain or specific stipulations that the engineer needs the Employers approval, most of it is in
Variation and extension of time.
Really, they have there own International Vietnamese Standard.. as what my YYY nationality
boss said..
XXX, who is of YYY nationality is THE ENGINEER, wants to continue to pay the Payment
Certificate of March and April and just make the adjustment or changes for the next interim
payment since it's still a dispute and both sides are not agreeing yet.
Thank you for your time.
Though there is provision to correct a certificate subsequently pursuant to 60.4, if those who
certify are confident that payment is not due exactly as claimed by the contractor, then they
should certify only that part which in their opinion is fairly due to the contractor. They should
not hold the certification of the total amount just because some of the figures within it are
incorrect. The contractors remedy for unjust interference in certifications is found in SubClause 69.1(b) of FIDIC.
Regards,
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Sincerely,
Imelda Syril Silvestrece - Razzaq
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Maria Victoria
Contracts Engineer
-----Original Message----From: Sasi Kumar [mailto:sasi.kumar@shapoorji.com]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 2:33 PM
To: sam99@eim.ae
Subject: remeasure contract
Sir,
In a re-measurable Contract can the Engineer ask for a new rate for the
'Rate Only' item? No, but if the scope of, or the circumstances under which, the work is to be
carried out has changed due to a variation, then the Engineer can serve notice under SubClause 52.2(b) to vary the rate.
Regards,
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Regards,
Sasikumar
From: ABRAHAM VARGHESE (alexmon) [mailto:alexmon@emirates.net.ae]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:19 AM
To: sam99@eim.ae
Subject: Q A
Hi dr sam,
Your classes are really thought provoking and encourages us to think outside the box while
evaluating the contract
This is in reference to the answer given by you in the last Q & A regarding the possible
savings due to omission of shading system under FIDIC 87. In you answer, you have stated
that the contractor has to only give the current market price and not the BOQ amount.
can you please explain the Logic behind your answer since as per 52.1 rates in the contract
are to be used if they are applicable. I looked in the last 3 sets of Q&A sent but could not find
the one you are referring to. Please quote the Q&A list reference number.
in this context can you also restate the argument regarding savings for deletion of boundary
wall (200 m actual which was wrongly quantified as 50) which was wrongly measured in
the BOQ. Too complex to state in this short Q&A forum. We do a complete analysis of this
during SCA Session 1. Next SCA starts on September 9th. Those who wish to refresh can
enroll now.
can you please also give the Logic behind your argument that statement in clause 51.1 " No
such variation shall vitiate or invalidate the Contract" means that Engineer should not issue
variations which are not appropriate Incorrect. I said the Engineer should not issue
variations which are of a nature to make the contract ineffective or invalid (examples were
changing the bridge to a tunnel or Football stadium to an airport terminal). I recently had an
argument that the above statement is to circumvent the doctrine of certainty. The only other
two meanings that can be given are despite whatever variation instructed, the contract
should remain valid and effective, or Contractor is obliged to carry out variations. The
latter is already catered for in the Sub-Clause under Contractor shall do .. and
therefore there is no necessity to repeat, and the former would allow the Engineer to instruct a
tunnel instead of the bridge because it is necessary to provide access from Point A to point B
in the example quoted during the session ! No court or arbitral tribunal would accept that
such a variation can be validly instructed under a contract. To facilitate this only one
interpretation is possible which is to consider it as a warning to the Engineer not to issue any
variation which would make the contract ineffective or invalid.
also can you please clarify how the PC sum item is re-measured in the following scenario
1. Contract is lump sum with employer supplied quantities with out provision to change the
quantities or add additional items.
2. ditto with provision to change the quantities or add additional items
In both cases, since the contract is lump sum type, the quantities to be taken for the
calculation are the quantities in the contract drawings and not those in the BOQ. Therefore if,
say PC Dhs. 100/- per M2 for unspecified tiles were given and the Drawing quantity is 1000
m2, then the provision within the Lump Sum Contract Price for tiles is Dhs. 100,000/- Any
change from this when the selected tiles are instructed should be adjusted (+ or -) after
making the OH & P allowance, as explained in several previous Q&A Lists, and also given in
one of the answers below in this list.
Regards,
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
thanks
abraham Varghese
Prof. Sam.
I hope all the information are intact and thanking you in anticipation
of your kind comments, I remain,
Yours Sincerely,
Nikhil Sudarsan.
Thanks & Regards,
Nikhil Sudarsan
From: Lalani Dodangoda [mailto:lalani2011@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:57 PM
To: sam99@eim.ae
Subject:
Dear Professor ,
Can u pls clarify the following issue regarding PC rates
Lump sum contract
Finishes
PC rate for marble is 1100 Dhs /m2
Unit Rate all inclusive - 1380 Dhs/ m2
Boq QTY - 1087 M2 ( which has an error )
Actual qty 2017 m2 ( CONTRACT DRG )
Pricing preambles describes that Contractor shall price the item adding O.H & Profit & other
allowances , installation to the PC RATE
As per Employers instruction Marble has been change to natural stone and the PC rate has
been reduced to 810 Dhs/ M2
Contractor has summarized the variation as follows
Addition
Natural stone - 2017 @ PC Rate 810 + O.H & Profit
Other costs
(1380-1100 ) = 2017@ 280 Dhs/ m2
and Omission
BOQ QTY 1087@ 1380/=
Contractor is arguing on this since the amount is fixed for the item in the BOQ deductions
should be made as per BOQ Value ( considering the risk )in this case
his rate is lesser than the PC RTAE provided ,because he has to carry out the actual qty of
2017 SQ.M @.......= BOQ VALUE
is this correct . Let us see how much is to be adjusted against the Lump Sum Contract Price
according to Contractors above calculation (assume OH&P to be 20%):Additons
Omission
= 1,025,224/-
My answer
Addition - 2017 @ PC RATE 810 +O.H & P + other cost @ 2017
other cost - 1100 + O.H & P =X
UNIT RATE 1380 - X = other cost
Omission
2017 @ unit rate 1380
Can u pls comment. Let us see what the answer is according to your calculations:Additons
Omission
2017 x 1380
= 1,960,524/121,020/= 2,081,544/=(2,783460/-)
= (701,916/-)
2,218,700/-
However the Employer did not spend this full amount. He only spent 2,017 x 810 =
1,633,770/- and therefore the Employer must have his saving of 2,218,700 1,633,770 =
584,930/-.
If the instructed finish was more expensive, then instead of a saving, the Employer would
have paid more and should pay the Contractors OH&P percentage on that addition.
Likewise, the Employer can now get the same percentage calculated on the saving which
would amount to a total saving of 584,930/- + 20% = 701,916/- , which is the same answer as
yours, and we did not mess around with any non-variable costs.
Though I used the above to explain how I arrived there, the more straight forward method is a
simple, single line calculation as follows:Saving = 2017 x {(1100 810)+20%}
701,916/-
Regards,
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Regards
Lalani.c.Dodangoda
Sr Project Quantity Surveyor
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Dear Sir,
I've attended the Sound Contracts Administration programme conducted by you during June2011 session.
I'll be very thankful to you for your kind clarification of the following: Contract is Lump Sum & based on FIDIC 1987 4th Edition, prior to commence with the
Construction work the Engineers had obtain the approval on Tender Design from the Local
Authorities. During the Construction Period the Contractor received additional Comments
from various Local Authorities on the submitted Shop Drawings based on Tender Design.
1. Is this will constitute Variation to the Contract Value. If the comment of the Authority
requires any design aspects to be changed (such as increasing the diameter of a pipe from its
previously designed diameter) then it amounts to a variation. It should immediately be
brought to the Engineers attention requesting him to issue a revised design or an instruction
to change the original design.
2. In case yes, then as per FIDIC 1987 4th Edition Clause 70.2 stated that the Contractor shall
be entitle for Cost plus OH only. How we can define the OH. In normal variation Contractor
OH&P is at 12%. Since it is a variation, it would be valued under Clause 52 (not under 70.2)
with OH and Profit. (If your question is related to a different claim under 70.2 then you need
to produce head office audited accounts to prove what your head office overheads are)
3. Contractor also submitted the EoT along with the Prolongation Cost. Is that Contractor is
entitle for EoT and Prolongation Cost. (EOT, Prolongation Costs and Profit too because the
delay was due to a variation as discussed during SCA session 2) As per UAE Civil Law I
presume that EoT will not attract any Cost in this issue. It will be treated as neutral event, It is
not a neutral event. It is a variation for which the Employer is responsible.
Please comment, in case of yes then how we can prove to the Contractor. Your request is not
clear. However, to prove you present facts, law, liability and quantum as discussed during
SCA Session 4.
Regards,
Prof. Sam.
Warm Regards,
Satvir Singh
----- Original Message ----From: "ABRAHAM VARGHESE (alexmon)"
To: sam99@eim.ae
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:50:43 +0400
Subject: UAE civil code
sir,
iam a student of advanced contract administration course . i would be grateful if you can
provide pDF copy of the civil code.
the version i have seems to be considerably different from the version used by you
I don't have the full copy. I have only few articles. You can photocopy it at Dubai Chamber of
Commerce and Industry Library. I am also searching for a word file or PDF for the
preparation of Master Class. If anyone has a copy I shall be grateful for a copy.
Regards,
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
regards
abraham varghese
From: Terrence Drummond [mailto:Terry_drummond@chinaconstruction.ae]
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 2:47 PM
To: sam99@eim.ae
Dear Professor Sam
Thank you for your tireless effort to help us and we appreciate all you are doing.
I work on a project in Dubai. An office block of 62 levels. Contract is FIDIC 1987 with 1992
amendments but no particular conditions.
All interim claims are subject to a minimum claim value of AED 10million.
No EOT has been granted yet but we have submitted a number of claims.
The Client has now issued a Stop Works Order for all the finishes from 30th floor and
above, as they want to issue a redesign of these floors into a Hotel. This redesign may
take 3 - 4 months! The structure is to continue as normal.
Our question is this:
It is highly likely that our claim will not go through (below AED 10million) due to the stop
works order and it is CSCEC that will suffer with cash flow which may be a major problem
especially payment to subcontractors and suppliers.
Is there any remedy for us as contractor in terms of easing our cash flow? We have thought of
a few things such as;
1. taking our balance of preliminaries for the project and dividing equally until the
completion date. This may help to get us to AED 10million as we are now being paid on a %
of work done basis.
2. We could request for the Client to do away with the minimum AED 10million criteria. This
will help us to put in a claim each month no matter what the value.
We would welcome any of your thoughts and advice.
This appears to be a suspension of progress of part of the Works, within the ambit of SubClause 40.1. Therefore you are entitled pursuant to Sub-Clause 40.2 to Extension of time,
Prolongation costs and any other costs that you may incur. Such costs can include financing
charges for borrowing money to fund your needs resulting from inability to invoice the
minimum monthly payment due to the suspension. When you submit the claim for the first
month including such costs, you will be in a position to negotiate with the Employer to delete
or lower the threshold in return for dropping or reducing your claims for such costs in the
following months.
Regards,
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
Many Thanks
Kind Regards
Terence Drummond
Contracts Manager
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder
With Regards
V.Satyanarayana
From: Terrence Drummond [mailto:Terry_drummond@chinaconstruction.ae]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 10:51 AM
To: sam99@eim.ae
Dear Professor Sam
I trust you are well and thank you for the advice on the contract.
The Contract is FIDIC 1987 with 1992 amendments but no particular conditions. It is a lump
sum contract.
Prof. Sam.
Prof. Indrawansa Samaratunga PhD, DSc
FRICS, FAIQS, FIQSSL, FCIArb, FCIOB, FCMI, FASI, FBEng
Chartered Surveyor, Chartered QS, Chartered Manager, Chartered Builder