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MS. BARRY: Your honour, Ms. Barry on behalf of Canal and River Trust and Ms. Easty is
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here on behalf of Mr. Wingfield. The first issue I want to raise is in relation to the fact
that this should technically be held in chambers just because there is an issue in
relation to the order at the previous trial between the parties, which would invoke the
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confidentiality clause that made the settlement confidential.
JUDGE OWEN: I do not propose to hear this case in private. I have seen the papers
handed in to me. Thank you very much. If there truly does arise a point at which,
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despite the skill and endeavour of both advocates, there is concern that that which has
been agreed and is subject to an order of the court that particular terms of the
settlement should remain confidential, then in exercising my discretion judicially I can
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at that point deal with that particular point in private. But otherwise I want this case to
proceed in the normal manner, transparently and in open court. At the moment I do
not think that concern you have will in fact arise, but if it does we will deal with it in
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the way I have just suggested.
MS. BARRY: Thank you.
JUDGE OWEN: Any objection, Ms. Easty?
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MS. EASTY: No, your Honour. Unlike my friend, consider it may be of some advantage
to have it in chambers, but, your Honour, of course I hear what you say.
JUDGE OWEN: Is there anybody in court now who would then directly be affected by
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that?
MS. EASTY: No, but there is somebody who is outside who, if it was in open court, would
wish to come inside, yes.
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JUDGE OWEN: For my part he can come inside now and we will cross the bridge when
we come to it.
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MS. BARRY: Your Honour, I am very shortly going to refer to the settlement agreement,
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which immediately would that are confidential which would immediate cause the
problem.
JUDGE OWEN: I see. Forgive me, I misunderstood. So it will be necessary to refer
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openly to the actual terms of the settlement, not the fact that there was a settlement?
MS. BARRY: No, no, to the terms specifically on the settlement agreement which are
confidential.
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JUDGE OWEN: In that case since both sides are agreed as to who should be in court are in
court and who should not be is not, let us get on with it.
MS. BARRY: Your Honour, if I can just give some of the background to this matter.
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Effectively there were previous enforcement proceedings started by my client against
Mr. Wingfield back in April 2012. At that point Mr. Wingfield broke his licence to
continually cruise. But his argument was that he had a medical condition which meant
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that he could not leave the area, which led to him having a heart attack and heart
disease. The consent order which was entered into on the second day of trial on 4th
March 2014, that essentially provided that the Claimant would provide a mooring to
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the Defendant which is an unusual state of affairs because essentially the moorings are
sort of an auction basis. They are usually at auction, but it was to assist the Defendant
in the settlement they agreed to provide him a mooring because as he put in his witness
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statement, All I wanted was a residential mooring to stay in this area indefinitely.
That is what was provided.
Essentially since then my clients position is that his boat has never been sited at
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that mooring and following the licence being issued on 1st April 2014 subject to that
consent order my client required to serve an enforcement notice on the boat on 14th
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July 2014 for overstay at County Hall steps. It is my clients position that he is not
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using the mooring that he sought and requested. In fact he has gone back to the
County Hall steps area where his boat remains, and that was where his boat was prior
to the original claim.
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JUDGE OWEN: Sorry, I did not catch the last part of that sentence.
MS. BARRY: His boat was at County Hall steps prior to the original claim that was issued
and settled.
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JUDGE OWEN: At the time of the last proceedings was it the Hildegard?
MS. BARRY: Yes, Hildegard is the boat.
JUDGE OWEN: That was moored at County Hall steps.
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MS. BARRY: Yes.
JUDGE OWEN: Since when it has remained.
MS. BARRY: Yes, it has remained in that area.
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JUDGE OWEN: On your case?
MS. BARRY: Yes, on our case, and that he has not used the home mooring which he has
been granted.
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JUDGE OWEN: So the notice on that boat was issued 14th July 2014.
MS. BARRY: Yes. Subsequently he was served with the enforcement notices on section 8
and section 13 on the 9th January 2015.
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JUDGE OWEN: Enforcement letter which appeared to be in regular form.
MS. BARRY: Yes.
JUDGE OWEN: Pursuant to section 13?
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MS. BARRY: Yes.
JUDGE OWEN: Which required the boat to be removed within how many days?
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MS. BARRY: Twenty eight days. And his licence had been revoked on 17th November
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2014 because of the breaches. The Defendant, we sought from the Defendant
essentially the basis of their defence in correspondence. They failed to provide that
until we received an unsigned Defence dated 13th September but received on 2nd
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October. This states in his Defence he moved the boat every fourteen days until he
was unable to do so. He was hospitalised with a stomach complaint and a fractured
leg.
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JUDGE OWEN: Hold on please. The document you are referring to is what?
MS. BARRY: It is a draft Defence which the Defendant has provided.
JUDGE OWEN: This is the unsigned, undated document bearing Ms. Eastys signature as
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counsel, is that right?
MS. BARRY: Yes one moment, I am very sorry. (counsel confer).
MS. EASTY: Yes, your Honour, that is my writing.
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JUDGE OWEN: It has eleven paragraphs, Ms. Easty.
MS. BARRY: Clarification was subsequently sought in relation to the dates of the various
issues of the stomach complaints and the broken leg. The response was that the
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stomach ailment commenced in August 2014 and he broke his leg in September 2014
and was suffering with that until January 2015. Therefore the Claimants position was
in relation as to why he could not comply with the licence requirements during four
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and a bit months from the issue of his licence in April until his first illness in August
2014. Also there are various Article 8 considerations raised at paragraph 8 which the
Claimant believes are not sufficiently arguable to justify consideration at trial.
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Essentially they mirror those which were in the Defence provided in the previous trial,
further more specifically at 8A, the argument that the Claimant failed to consider the
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Defendant had broken his leg or that he had other health issues which impeded his
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progress. That was never raised or communicated to the Claimant until the Defence
was put in. So that was something they could not have considered because they were
not aware of it. The fact that
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JUDGE OWEN: I do not need to hear you on these. I will hear Ms. Easty and then you can
reply rather than guess at the matter which you submitted which on its face does not
appear to have any merit.
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MS. BARRY: Essentially, your Honour, it was felt by the Claimant that he was in a
position where he was back to doing exactly what he was before, trying to thwart the
system by not using his mooring at the County Hall steps and that no defence has been
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raised or argued, and that therefore setting this matter down for directions and trial
again, with the same defence that we argue was in fact weaker than last time, would
just waste further court time. Also it would waste further public funds and is unfair to
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my client, because Mr. Wingfield is on benefits and so.
JUDGE OWEN: The issue that arises, Ms. Barry, subject to hearing from Ms. Easty, is it
seems to me as follows. First of all on the evidence provided by your clients there
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appears to be a prima facie basis for the granting of this injunction, and that regarding
such injunction it would be just and convenient and would be necessary and
proportionate in the circumstances. But the Defendant wishes to assert that that is not
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in fact the actual position and I am summarising this but I will be educated by both
counsel in due course at the very least it is arguable that there are reasons why the
court should not exercise its discretion and its jurisdiction today and rather should
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maintain the current status quo and provide for directions for the speedy and orderly
determination of the very issue which you hare here to argue about. That seems to me
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to be the position. What I propose to do is hear from Ms. Easty. Then you can reply
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to those matters which require a reply to.
MS. EASTY: Thank you. Yes, your Honour, that rightly summarises the issues before the
court today. In respect of the Claimants case it is our case that the Defendant was
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moving in accordance with the terms and conditions every fourteen days up until he
was unable to do so due to his stomach complaint and the broken leg, and then
subsequently when his licence was revoked in November he was unable to move in
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any event because he is not insured to move or travel on the waterway. So the actual
basis of the Claimants case is disputed and the Defendants can set out when and
where he moved and on what date, apart from when he was unable to move. It is the
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Defendants case that he informed the Claimant of his illness and his broken leg on
receipt of the letter, that he informed them by mobile phone. That was witnessed by an
individual able to help him. So therefore that is also disputed.
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In respect of the point as to his home mooring, your Honour, again that is disputed,
that he was in fact at his home mooring on at lest two occasions. Again, this is not a
continuously cruising case because there is no requirement to move any specific
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distance. You can move every fourteen days for a relatively small area, and maybe
that is why the Claimants records are incorrect.
In terms of the Article 8 case, your Honour, that was something that rightly was
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argued last time and was settled, the case was settled. So therefore the actual merit of
the Article 8 case is not considered. In terms of what is happening now your Honour
may be aware that this matter as to how the court should approach Article 8 cases in
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boat cases is currently before the Court of Appeal. I think that is going to be heard in
maybe about March.
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MS. EASTY: Mr. Nigel Moore is an individual who felt that it might be appropriate to
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assist the Defendant. We do not find the statement of any assistance so we do not rely
on it.
JUDGE OWEN: That is all very well, but I have in front of me a statement bearing your
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clients signature.
MS. EASTY: Yes.
JUDGE OWEN: Is that your clients signature?
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MS. EASTY: Yes, it is.
JUDGE OWEN: So it is his statement.
MS. EASTY: Yes, it is a statement provided to the court.
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JUDGE OWEN: Am I being asked to ignore this statement?
MS. EASTY: I am asking the court to ignore this statement because we have not provided
it on instructions. It has been provided by a Mr. Nigel Moore who took it upon himself
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to provide it to the court, and wrote it and Mr. Wingfield signed it. Mr. Nigel Moore is
outside, your Honour, if you wish to hear from him in this respect.
JUDGE OWEN: I dont think so. It is your client who has presented it to the court. It is
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his signature on the statement. He cannot realistically seek, I do not think, to distance
himself in this way by suggesting it is all the fault of Mr. Nigel Moore and it is not his
responsibility.
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MS. EASTY: Your Honour, the facts in it are correct. Some of the legal positioning it is
more of a defence than a statement of fact. We are not disputing the facts, but the legal
positioning is something which may distract the court from the merits of the case itself.
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In any event of course statements of fact should not be written in terms of legal
defence. So that is the part that I am concerned about.
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JUDGE OWEN: Article 8 on your case is based, as I understand it, on the engagement of
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Article 8 that the failure to comply was a failure to respect Article 8 is arguable on the
basis that there is a factual dispute in that the Defendant takes issue with material facts
relied upon by the Claimant. Is that right? Say, for example your clients case is that,
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contrary to their assertion, they had notice of the fact that he had in August 2014 a
stomach condition requiring hospitalisation.
MS. EASTY: Yes, not hospitalisation for a period of time but requiring him to visit the
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hospital.
JUDGE OWEN: So he did not require hospitalisation but he attended the hospital.
MS. EASTY: Yes. Then he subsequently broke his leg which of course rendered him
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unable to move.
JUDGE OWEN: In September he fractured his leg.
MS. EASTY: And also our previous point in respect of we say we were (asking for a
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mooring?) and had been moving right up until when we could not move.
JUDGE OWEN: Right, very good. Anything else
MS. EASTY: In terms of the injunction, of course that is a matter for discretion and I say
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the discretion should not be exercised where the matter is disputed and disputed as to
the basis of the claim itself.
JUDGE OWEN: Thank you very much. Ms. Barry?
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MS. BARRY: In relation to the factual issues raised, firstly, in relation to whether or not
the Defendant advised the Claimant of his health issues, specifically the stomach
complaint and fractured leg. Essentially the conversation that took place between Mr.
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Wingfield and Mr. Garner, who is the Claimants witness, both of whom are here
today and both who can give evidence and the court can make a finding on that. There
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JUDGE OWEN: So those two matters are raised as far as your clients case is concerned.
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MS. BARRY: Yes, your Honour.
JUDGE OWEN: For the first time when and how?
MS. BARRY: When there was reference in the draft defence, and it was only when we
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sought clarification.
JUDGE OWEN: Sorry, this is --?
MS. BARRY: This is the draft defence received on 2nd October and at that date we
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contacted the Defendants solicitor to request further information because the draft
defence did not supply dates for these issues, and we were given some vague dates,
which again we were told would be confirmed eventually. That was given to us on, I
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am not sure what date, but shortly after the settlement on (7th?) October 5th October
that information was provided by his solicitors. It says in that letter, We will give you
further details as regards his hospitalisation., which apparent was not the case as we
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now hear.
JUDGE OWEN: And the notices on your clients case which were issued and sent to the
Defendant, which form the foundation for these proceedings, which page is it on?
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MS. BARRY: Paragraph 14 and pages 56 to 63 of the exhibits.
JUDGE OWEN: Yes, you did tell me in opening the notice following revocation of the
licence was 17th November, was it?
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MS. BARRY: Yes.
JUDGE OWEN: Thank you very much.
(Judgment is provided on a separate transcript)
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JUDGE OWEN: Yes, Ms. Barry?
MS. BARRY: There is finally the issue of costs.
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JUDGE OWEN: May I just deal with the terms of the order. You have a draft order before
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me.
MS. BARRY: Yes, which mirror the terms sought in the claim form. Your Honour, these
mirror the terms sought in the claim form and to the declaration. Paragraph 1 is the
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declaration and paragraphs 2 and 3 the injunction as sought in the claim form.
JUDGE OWEN: Yes, and you have an application for costs?
MS. BARRY: Your Honour, yes. No questionnaire has been served because they will need
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to be a contribution to their costs rather than an assessment of their full costs due to the
Defendants limited means essentially my attendance at court and the court fee, the
court fee being 280 and my attendance at court being 900.
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JUDGE OWEN: So you seek an order for costs of 1,180.
MS. BARRY: Yes, your Honour. Obviously if there is any objection to that we can
provide a costs schedule for the full costs which can be argued.
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JUDGE OWEN: I will hear Ms. Easty.
MS. EASTY: Your Honour, in terms of the costs we are legally aided and we ask for the
standard order.
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JUDGE OWEN: How do I know your client has the benefit of a publicly funded
certificate?
MS. EASTY: You should have a certificate. It has been posted to the court.
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JUDGE OWEN: Who is it who has advised the Legal Aid agency about this case?
MS. EASTY: I think it has merit, your Honour, and I would like to seek permission to
appeal.
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JUDGE OWEN: Dont worry about that, we will deal with things in an orderly way.
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MR. EASTY: I know, your Honour, but I just thought I would mention it at that point.
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Yes, you should have it on file. It has been sent to the court. I am sure we can provide
another copy. We have one here, your Honour.
JUDGE OWEN: Have the Claimants received it?
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MS. BARRY: I believe so, yes.
JUDGE OWEN: That being the case, I have to make an order to comply with section 26 of
the Act?
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MS. BARRY: Yes, your Honour, you can assess costs at that level but then make the usual
order, which therefore means that if our client decided to take the following steps we
missed out the assessment, collection of that.
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JUDGE OWEN: So you invite me to assess those costs which would otherwise be payable.
MS. BARRY: Yes.
JUDGE OWEN: That is 1,180, but subject to section 26. There you are, that is the correct
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order to be made. Right, what else do you have, Ms. Easty?
MS. EASTY: Your Honour, yes, I seek permission to appeal. I think I need to do it in this
court first.
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JUDGE OWEN: I am afraid that for the reasons which I have given I do not regard your
proposed application to have any reasonable prospects of success. You do not have an
automatic right to appeal, do you?
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MS. EASTY: No, your Honour. I will sit down immediately, but you have not dealt with
the point in relation to the width of the injunction.
JUDGE OWEN: I will hear you on that.
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MS. ESTY: Because I do appreciate that is also a part of this case. That is a matter that I
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would raise in an appeal. If you do not want to hear my grounds in respect of the
appeal, I am entirely happy again to.
JUDGE OWEN: I do not want to stop you from making any submissions. So make your
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submissions, Ms. Easty, so I understand exactly what you are saying.
MS. EASTY: Your Honour, yes, of course. In respect of the summary basis of the
assessment in respect of the merits of the case today, your Honour, this factual basis is
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disputed. That much is clear. There is no reason not to accept the Defendants
statement of facts and there is no reason necessarily to accept the Claimants statement
of facts. Therefore your Honour, in my submission evidence exists and should have
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been heard. My friend made that very clear. Everyone is here ready to give evidence
and there was no reason necessarily not to hear evidence today in terms of coming to
an assessment of the evidence. I say that is an erroneous approach. In respect of the
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human rights aspect, your Honour failed to consider the case in a structured manner
and accept that this decision will impact on the Defendants private life, the extent to
which and whether it is necessary, apart from stating that in your judgment, there has
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been no structured approached. I suggested in various parts of pieces of paper the
proper approach when assessing Article 8. Indeed, your Honour, you have not made it
clear what test you are applying in respect of Article 8 in order to say that a matter that
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impacts on someones home does not amount to anything of any significance in
relation to Article 8. Your Honour, I say that is incorrect. Finally, in terms of the
width of the injunction there is no reason to suggest that the Defendant does not
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comply with any order made by the court. Finally, he is still paying and has available
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to him the home mooring, so he is not entitled even on the terms of this order to go
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back there.
JUDGE OWEN: I have not heard you on the ambit of the order being sought. You have
not raised these matters until now.
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MS. EASTY: I dont think I raised them in the Defence, when I was responding to my
friends submissions and taking them in turn. But the order is too wide. But, your
Honour, I was dealing with the paper that was put in front of the court today. Those
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are the reasons I seek permission to appeal your order, your Honour.
JUDGE OWEN: Yes, thank you. No, I am afraid I do not consider that the grounds which
you pose, Ms. Easty, have a realistic prospect of success, nor is there any compelling
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reason to justify me granting permission to appeal. I have made it clear in my
judgment the reasons why, and if you wish permission to appeal you will have to go
elsewhere. This is a CPR Part 8 hearing. It is an application for an injunction by a
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County Court judge. So what is the route of appeal?
MS. EASTY: I think it is just straight up to a circuit judge.
JUDGE OWEN: Well I am a circuit judge.
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MS. EASTY: Sorry, well then it has got to be the Court of Appeal, hasnt it, High Court.
MS. BARRY: I disagree. I think it would be the High Court if it was an interim decision.
MS. EASTY: Its the Court of Appeal.
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JUDGE OWEN: Very well, if that is where you are headed. Thank you. I take it, Ms.
Barry, that well, you have invited me to make the order which I have made. I have
made that order in light of the submissions I have heard. You have nothing else you
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need to make submissions about?
MS. BARRY: No, your Honour.
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