Mars is like the other planets, not like earth but wandering stars.

Space is not real as NASA wants you to think.

There is only the earth, sun, and moon.
The sun is not a star.
Scientists do not know what stars are.
ISS, the moon landing, satellites, planetary and asteroid and comet probes, the
Hubble space telescope are all lies. Notice that every picture from space is CG
I.
Find it odd that they beam back "photos" from Pluto which are obviously compute
r generated?
Find it odd that astronauts repeatedly say they want to inspire kids. NOT to go
into space, but to follow their dreams.
Space is a massive delusional dream fed to people to make them continue to wors
hip (focus attention) on the gods (fallen angels, wanderong stars) in the sky (v
enus, mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, mercury).
From the age of 9 when I read the world book encyclopedias, I became fascinated
by space, rockets, space exploration. Studied space, solar system and the unive
rse daily for the next 13 years, only to find out it was all lies and I'd never
be able to follow my dream (be an space explorer).
I know all the information about what is "supposedly" out there. Aside from my
personal studies also followed latest news of all new space technology (such as
blue origin, NASA, ESA, space x, virgin galactic, etc) and took astronomy classe
s in college.
They taught us the physics of how everything allegedly works in space.
But never once any observations through a telescope.
Everything told to you about space is calculated with numbers math. Based on th
eories.
I tried observing stars and "planets" many times through binoculars and cannot
see much.
The moon is obvious through binoculars but it is impossible to determine its co
rrect distance.
The craters on the moon are suspicious.
Asyronaughts claim they are in space but blatantly say you cannot go there.
If they ever go to a "trip" to mars, it will all be simulated to where "astrona
uts" think they are on mars but are actually in an elaborate simulation. Video o
f the simulation (like ISs simulation, and moon landing simulation) will be broa
dcast for the world to see.
With the levels of CGI there is today anything is possible.
They are waiting for virtual reality to be so good that they can convince the s
elected space travelers they went to mars.

Everyomr on ISs, or any other space travel up until now knows its fake. When vi
rtual reality simulation is good enough the selected people will not know its fa
ke.
Almost everyone building the "space ships" and working on the ground level beli
eve it is all real. This is why people say, "if we had thousands of people putti
ng in many many hours of work to this project building it we know the rocket is
real".
It is easy to fool these people because they see about as much as the media sho
ws the world. The " control instruments" for ground control are simulators.
The question is, why would they create such an elaborate lie?
What is really up in the sky?
If they ever send civilians to mars in mass transit, you can bet it will be to
their death and demise.
Have you ever sat in the middle of a field in the middle of no where and looked
straight up at the milky way? Are you saying that the countless stars you can se
e with your naked eye (Yes I know some are clusters! Im just sayin!) are fake?
Two ways it could be done:
1. Dome: The only way to project this "fake" star light for all to see would be
a Dome, which would...lets face it... be impossible. Size, cost and man power t
o make it, nope. Everyone would know it was fake.
2. Mass hallucination: Nope, would need to drug people all over the world at di
fferent times from time in memorial
Stars are just that, they are stars. Between a few hundred and a few billion (t
hats BILLION) light years away. Giant balls of gas dancing their cosmic dance be
fore they die. I have viewed Mars through a powerful telescope and saw the Majes
ty of the red (green sometimes) planet.
You will never go to space, that is a sad fact. I will never go. It costs too m
uch to send 3 people up so why would they just pick any tom dick and harry.
Now, I have a question for you OP. I myself have been lucky to witness 3 shuttl
e launches. I have seen the rockets dislodge and fall to the earth as the shuttl
e itself fly into the great dark. If its all fake then where the hell does it go
? Its not like a plane as it ... and wait for it ... as it will blow your mind .
.. goes straight up (ok yes, at a very slight angle).
So... Is someone turning out the light at night with some kind of switch? When t
here is an eclipse, are they then switching the light off and on like some kind
of sick peek a boo game?
There are just so many questions that would need to be answered vastly differen
tly if what you are saying is true. And since you seem to think it is, can you a
nswer the above questions?
I'm all for a good conspiracy, but I like for it to be sort of a little feasibl
e before I start placing any kind of stock into it.
a reply to: thekaboose

im not saying the stars are fake.

but they are not as far away as the astronomers calculate them with their math.
the two ways of calculating stars distance is parallax, and light wave frequenc
y. both with the use of complicated math that does not correlate to the stars, b
ecause no one has seen one close up.
the sun is not a star. the sun is the sun
the stars are stars. proven they are the same thing the sun is by using math do
es not prove they are the same thing.
search google: "telescope images of sun"
here is an supposedly but believable photograph of the sun found on google imag
es:
( i dont know how to embed but heres link) www.nies.ch...
notice how it looks.
now heres a fake CGI image of the sun supposedly from the sun probe SOHO:
sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov...
now search google: "real telescope images of stars"
lets find a believable image: Proxima centauri, the supposedly "closest" star t
o earth. "supposedly" taken with hubble space telescope: i.space.com... uri-hubb
le-1920.jpg?1389726403
if the above is truly the best available true image of the supposedly closest s
tar to us. this is all we see? it doesn't look anything like the sun.
many will use the excuse: "its because even the closest star away is the too fa
r away and difficult or impossible to take pictures of to look like the sun.
but no.
the stars are much much closer to earth.
and also, they are not the same thing as the sun.
so now we look from the same search: "real telescope images of stars" something
like this: i.space.com...
fake
then on a NASA website: "image from telescope of pilades. the x shapes coming o
ut the the stars on this website says are made by the telescope itself.apod.nasa
.gov...
if the telescope makes a feature in the star, then their object of sorcory is c
reatig a fake picture.
digital telescopes almost create the entire picture from a tiny spot of light!

the world is often not as you see it

also, if you cannot see it, and other people who cannot see it tell you what it
is like merely from numbers they smash together, how can you believe them? you
will believe NASA just because they are good at CGI and math?
I do not know how to do CGI, and i am not very good at math. therefore I can fi
nd truth about the nature of the universe that anybody in NASA can never imagine
. they have crippled themselves and blinded themselves with their lies. they bel
ieve they can do math so well, they know something. but in reality they are beli
eving lies, so their math is being corrected by their imaginations and they use
their imagination to create the CGI.
how can you think my claims are any less believable than NASA? I don't know mat
h, but I probably have read and studied more about all the possible things that
humans believe are in space than most employees at NASA. most of them are just g
ood at math. so they do the math, apply their imagination to it, and dont ask ma
ny more questions.
then you have the actors. who do not know any math. they are the comedians like
most who are replying to the thread.
tools of the deceivers. they will not address any actual science, or ask any qu
estions but delude themselves and the world that they are funny and entertaining
.
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originally posted by: jheated5
I've never been able to figure this out either... Is the moon really made out o
f cheese? I mean, I'll never get to taste it, how am I supposed to know? I think
only the powerful elites get to eat moon cheese! I'm depressed knowing I'll nev
er be able to afford to eat it....
too cliche, this is condescending as many humans are to their children. which i
s not a humorous practice.
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originally posted by: IsntLifeFunny
Slow clap?
you decide whats humor (only a thing to laugh at) and whats a valid idea (a pos
sibility about our shared reality)?
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originally posted by: IsntLifeFunny
Well duh! Obviously the earth is flat!
ironic huh? no proof of globe. no proof of flat earth. no proof of anything. yo
u can only see 1/3 of the actual joke.
the astronaut who says chidren should be inspired by him to accomplish their dr
eams is like the above people. they can inspire nobody because they point at som
ething stupid and pretend it is interesting or beneficial to the human race. but
it is not. making fun of people is not beneficial for anybody.

To answer your questions,

the sun, moon, and wandering stars are true objects in the sky. but they are no
thing like the mathmatitions and cgi artists tell you.
eclipes (solar and lunar) do happen.
its not a game. its part of a system.
its a clock for nature to know when to do their functions.
I have a relatively cheap teliscope, costing less than $500(us). When I use it I
can see Mars pretty well, I can see the rings of Saturn, and I can see Jupiter
and even a couple moons next to it. In your opinion, what am I seeing? And what
about every other amateur astronomer on this planet, what are we all seeing?
And secondly are you offering any evidence of our current ideas being false?
You admit your not very good at cgi or math, and then state that that somehow q
ualifies you to know the truth about nature.
Does that line of logic really make sence to you?
You ramble on about how our paradigm has no proof, while your incoherent rambli
ngs have no basis, no supporting facts, and not even a sign of internal logical
consistency, let alone proof.
So please, answer my questions and tell me what qualifies you to make these cla
ims.
yes i have sat in middle of field and watched the sky, the milky way, etc.
the increasing number of "satellites" is strange isn't it. in the past years i
notice more and more and more. they say they are for technology but thats a lie
too. i used to install satellite tv for a year and a half. i know about satellit
e frequencies. but what they are telling people about it is fake. all these sign
als are not coming from the sky. humans cannot put anything into orbit.
the frequencies we were picking up with the satellite dishes were originating f
rom the surface of the earth, not being re-broadcast from something in the sky.
at these distances measuring frequency distance is possible.
stars are different you cannot measure their true distance.
all of the sattelites were made up in order to convince us that they were manma
de, but they are wandering stars, which are increasing as the years go on.
originially there were 7, now there are hundreds.
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Now, I have a question for you OP. I myself have been lucky to witness 3 shuttl
e launches. I have seen the rockets dislodge and fall to the earth as the shuttl
e itself fly into the great dark. If its all fake then where the hell does it go
? Its not like a plane as it ... and wait for it ... as it will blow your mind .
.. goes straight up (ok yes, at a very slight angle).

it goes out of sight into the distance, at a HUGE angle, then falls into the se
a. they had several shuttles to fake a "re-entry landing"
i watched the final shuttle launch live, and when i saw the angle it was going
into the sky i was not impressed. i was impressed by the shuttle itself, that wa
s back when i still believed in it all.

you can see mars, the rings of saturn, jupiter, and several moons.
can you see to the surface of any of these stars? no.
just because they have shown you "true images" of the surface of mars, you imag
ine it when you look at it in the telescope. this is the sorcory.
for them to be like earth they must have a surface. and as these are wandering
stars they are masters of deception.
they can appear as they wish to appear. the ancients believed they were gods. t
he modern humans believe they are like the earth in function. but they are not.
neither are they like the sun.
edit--it is the wandering stars themselves ("the planets") that are deceiving the nas
a deceivers.
these days humans must be deceived to worship something.
in ancient times they straight up worshipped them for what they were
The Sun is a star (and a newspaper), you speak of how they are closer etc but yo
u have not given your math to prove it. All I see is someone trying to peddle fa
lse information on the forum once again. You complain about CGI but as someone p
ointed out... there were times before Photoshop and we have pictures of space fr
om them (First one I know of was 1946 from a cam strapped to a V-2).
I am sorry, but honestly I believe that your views are based upon the fact that
you were disappointed with the fact you would never go into space (which is in
theory a null and void activity as you are flying around in space at this moment
in time) so you devoted your study of space to misinformation and personal vend
etta.
your statement of my not having the math to prove it proves my point.
saying that one cannot know anything about nature without knowing the math, is
like saying one cannot know anything about the ocean without reading a book abou
t it. the ocean can be known by sitting and watching it, by swimming in it.
i know a lot about nature, i often observe nature close up. i am constantly obs
erving the natural things. you can see what something is when you get to know it
.
like a friend. you do not get to know the friend by calculating with math their
possible movements. you get to know them by being around them and observing the
m.
NASA scientists and people who are good at math do not observe nature or space
close up but always through the perspective of numbers and technological devices
that distort their perceptions of nature itself. for many years i observed spac
e with my own eyes and understood what stars really are. the human knoledge i le
arned about space and stars was all made up by humans and their devices.