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Europeans should look to Brussels not Moscow for the source of


their extremism problem.

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of views but some of its members are strong supporters of the Maidan
movement; (2) I know for a fact that the headquart... See More
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Ian Would The EU and UK can blame their own austerity policies for the
resurgence of the far right and their own ineptitude in fiscal policy, the fact that
they are beholden on every level to the US and the IMF doesn't help either, but
since when did the elites care about exposing their own inadequacies? Much
easier to spout a pithy little slogan and blame 'the devil' than expose their own
idiocy.
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Wahid Azal The far-right in Europe will take money from just about anyone. If
Mosow offers it, they will take it. If Brussels offers it, they will take it. If
Washington offers it, they will take it. If Tel Aviv or Beijing offered it, they would
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Mark Sleboda EU no like when Russia does back to them what they
have done to us in Russia and Ukraine for last 20 years? Too f-ing
bad. Paybacks a bitch
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Wahid Azal Mark Sleboda Except Russia needs to be careful what
manner of scum and demon it plays with. Remember Stalin's policy re:
the German Social Democrats and how it gave Germany Hitler? The
far-right, just as in the 1920-40s, are bottom line no fans of Russia.
The EU will fall. But I'd rather see the EU stand than be consumed by
a Fourth Reich which would then immediately turn on Russia as a
matter of course.
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Mark Sleboda Think we'll take our chances with EU falling apart, and
separating US from its henchmen, thanks.
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Wahid Azal Mark Sleboda How did fascism on the European
continent turn out the last time around? Think.
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Mark Sleboda With USSR burning down Reichstag and owning half

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Wahid Azal That was the happy ending. But not before most of
Europe and the USSR were drenched in blood, fire and destruction.
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Mark Sleboda Think we'll take our chances with pitchfork wielding
Poles rather than postmodern EU dystopia providing cover and flack
for US invasions and staging Banderite color revolutions on our
neighbors and kin.
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Mark Sleboda And tbh - it might even be worth it to see the other half
of Europe drenched in blood, fire, and destruction this time....
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Wahid Azal The same pitchfork wielding Poles who who were
cheering the Banderist Nazis only yesterday? C'mon.
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Wahid Azal Eric Draitser
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Mark Sleboda Nothing like turning a rabid dog on its asshole master.
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Wahid Azal At the cost of millions of innocents dead?
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Mark Sleboda Millions of innocents are dying all over world now with
EU playing sidekick to US imperialism. *yawn*
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Wahid Azal Anglo-American imperialism produces fascism. These
same forces you are praying bring destruction on Europe ultimately
answer to the Atlanticists.
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Mark Sleboda lmao - the EU ARE the Atlantacists now! Chaos,
turning their own evil on themselves, a few decades setback - totally
worth it.
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Mark Sleboda Playing the moral highground when the other side is
sending fascists and jihadists to kill your people is a fool's game.

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the whole thing. I am holding the moral ground because I live in


Germany and have a family here. This is personal. I detest fascists as
much as I loathe the Salafists Empire has also unleashed on my
people. Nevertheless this is dangerous talk here. If you think things
are bad now, imagine a Hitlerian like regime in one of Europe's major
capitals. Do you honestly think these goons would be bowing towards
Moscow at that point?
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Mark Sleboda What should we sick you on them instead? Fat lot of
good that would do us or my family in Donbass. To be perfectly
honest, I will be satisfied when Berlin and Paris burn like Gorlovka and
Donetsk. An eye for a bloody eye.
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Wahid Azal Mark Sleboda Many of us started supporting Putin and
Russia because of the moral leadership and the call to the rule of law
against the Atlanticist Beast who has no ethical compass or believes in
its own slogans. If Russia drops that moral leadership and starts
playing dirtier than the Atlantic Beast, guaranteed, it will inevitably lose
this war -- and then we will all lose. My prayers and my support have
been with your family in Donbass from the very beginning of this
conflict. Remember that.
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Mark Sleboda A fat lot of good your prayers have done them when
your taxes have gone to pay the salaries of those killing them.
And no - I don't actually advocate any of what I have said above (and
as the article makes clear between the lines, Russia isn't actually
doing any of it - its just insinuation and deflection)
But frankly to be lectured and moralized to by a European armchair
leftist when its Russians and their kin in Ukraine who are dying in the
trenches fighting EU funded fascists and jihadists, was just more than I
could stomach tonight,
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Mark Sleboda Remember that.
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Wahid Azal Firstly, I ain't a European. In case you haven't noticed, I

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as Salafists in the Mid East: both of whom, I contend, are frankensteins of


Empire. So get your facts straight before throwing your arms up in
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Mark Sleboda I'm sorry, and here I mistakenly thought you and your
family were sucking down bratwurst and pilsner in fascist-backing
Berlin, rather than marching on the streets of Tehran. My bad.
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Wahid Azal No, instead we march on Quds day in Berlin. After all
Tehran needs my family and many others similarly in Berlin.
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Mark Sleboda Is that what you tell yourself?
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Wahid Azal And what do you tell yourself? That by supporting fascists
burning half of Europe down -- and eventually Russia itself -somehow this is the path to some Eurasianist utopia?
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Wahid Azal Sukant Chandan Dan Welch
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Mark Sleboda Perhaps you should go back and reread a little more
carefully what I said four posts above.
The above was just my making clear to you that whatever Russia does
or doesn't do, you have no right to moralize or lecture them when they
are the one's taking the lead and brunt of this struggle for the world
right now.
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Wahid Azal I have read what you wrote above already. I am simply
flabbergasted that you believe by Russia supporting fascists on the
continent that it is somehow a moral or good thing and that somehow it
is a justified strategic comeuppance on Russia's part, i.e. verbatim the
same logic the Atlanticists have used to justify removing Assad by
unleashing takfiri Salafist Islamist death-squads on Syria and the
region.
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"And no - I don't actually advocate any of what I have said above (and
as the article makes clear between the lines, Russia isn't actually
doing any of it - its just insinuation and deflection)
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But frankly to be lectured and moralized to by a European armchair


leftist on what is and what isn't acceptable response and strategy
when its Russians and their kin in Ukraine who are dying in the
trenches fighting EU funded fascists and jihadists, was just more than I
could stomach tonight,"
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Wahid Azal You are overreacting, and ain't no European.
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Mark Sleboda Which govt do you pay your taxes to Wahid?
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Wahid Azal Definitely not to the IRS. My money or taxes do not
support murderous Atlanticist adventures in eastern Ukraine. Let's
leave it there.
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Mark Sleboda As I said- I don't actually advocate any of the above
and Russia isn't actually doing any of it, whatever the press my
factlessly insinuate - but if they did - they would be perfectly justified
for doing so.
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Wahid Azal I don't believe the Kremlin is doing it either. But what I am
pointing out is that these neo-Nazis are opportunists and will dance
with literally anyone who shows them the money, and that there may
be forces in Russia and not connected to the Kremlin who are playing
to the tune of these fascists.
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Mark Sleboda And btw fyi the Eurasian 8 pointed star - is the
Orthodox eight-pointed star, the Star of Redemption or Regeneration
and represents baptism. Eight is traditionally the number of
regeneration, and thus many Orthodox baptismal fonts have an
octagonal base. It is a symbol of the rebirth of Russia in Eurasia
through the fires of the Horde, rather than Europe, like the phoenix
from the ashes.

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Wahid Azal I know the original Star of Redemption and I know the
Chaosophere. And I know the Orthodox Christian symbology of eight
as well. Dugin's Eurasian flag is not the former, whatever he says
otherwise. Plus he is on record about both Crowley and Chaos
magick, not to mention Heidegger. Believe whatever else you want.
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Wahid Azal Mark Sleboda, Sukant Chandan is asking why you have
blocked him from your page? He wishes to contribute to the thread.
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Mark Sleboda lmfao I'm glad "you know" Eurasianism and the
"Chaosophere?" from your armchair in Berlin, clown.

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Wahid Azal Thanks for your time. For the record, you sent me the
friend request. Also, for the record, any time that Mr Dugin is up for a
live 1-one-1 debate with me, I am a game. Anytime, anyplace.
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Mark Sleboda Why is he blocked? Because I blocked him when you
went wailing for back up from your fellow loons and tagged him.
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