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ENGG TIPS FORUM DISCUSSION REG_ CASTING PROPERTIES

(Materials)
(OP)
24 Jan 07 18:41
In foundry some costumers ask to do the mechanicals tests on coupons
however other costumers ask to do these tests on parts.
What is the best method?
Because if we do this on coupons it depends on the positions and the size
of the feeders. If we do this on parts it's not esay to sacrifie a part only for
extracting piece for mechanical testings
metengr (Materials)24 Jan 07 20:04
stanislasdz;
The method for conducting tests should be based on the applicable
material specification. For example, ASTM A 703 or ASME SA 703 provide
specific guidance for verifying mechanical properties of castings based on
test bars or other coupons.
arunmrao (Materials)24 Jan 07 21:39
Most often the test samples are drawn from standard keel blocks which
are cast separately. For purposes of identification a witness pour or
stamping is often done. Also at times integral test bars are recommended.
These methods satisfy most of the inspectors.
However, in a few rare cases in the absence of sufficient test bars or if the
section thickness of the casting is too large so that the mechanical
properties from keel block sample may not be a true representative,
samples are drawn from a section of the casting. Normally it is the
heaviest section of the casting. But this issue will be discussed right at the
beginning.
dbooker630 (Materials) 25 Jan 07 07:51
When a new cast part is being validated it is good practice to submit both
separately cast tensile bars as well as coupons sectioned from an area of
the casting agreeable to foundry and end user.
The tensile bar is the lot-to-lot process control; coupons subsequently are
not necessarily required in production lots unless there is a problem with
the tensile sample. The end user should specify in writing when the job is
awarded exactly what is required in production.
kenvlach (Materials)25 Jan 07 15:34
Re "What is the best method?"
The 'best method' is one that satisfies ASTM, ASME, etc. requirements,
plus any additional customer requirements.
The specifications tell whether samples must be cut from cast parts, the
required sample geometry and frequently give the sample location for
different part geometries.

I suggest buying the Annual Book of ASTM Standards, Volume 01.02,


January 2007, Ferrous Castings; Ferroalloys at
http://www.astm.org/cgibin/SoftCart.exe/BOOKSTORE/BOS/TOCS_2007/01.02.html?
L+mystore+jsgv4065+1169421158
Also buy the Steel Castings Handbook, 6th
Edition http://www.asminternational.org/Template.cfm?
Section=ShopASM&template=Ecommerce/ProductDisplay.cf
m&ProductID=11274
The Steel Founders' Society Of America has free, downloadable
supplements to the Steel Castings Handbook, 6th Edition. Go
tohttp://www.sfsa.org, click on Publications, then Electronic Publications
(Free). All seem useful; 'Test Coupons and Casting Properties' seems most
relevant to this thread.
Also, from the LHS menu, click on Casting Design and Purchase. There are
described general specifications on which customers & foundries must be
in agreement.
stanislasdz (Materials)
(OP)
25 Jan 07 17:21
Thanks a lot for all for these nice answers

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